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Amazon Experts: How Do You Get Your Product Review Sites to Page 1 of Google?

by imnewbie6
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I have a nice little mini-niche Wordpress blog I just set up for myself. It has an Amazon product review on it and a few other pages of content. Yesterday I typed my site URL into Google and it looks like it IS indexed there.

I had checked competition research with Market Samurai earlier on and based on the results it looked promising that there were a few spots on the first page of Google that I could break into for my primary keyword.

So, I apologize in advance for this question because I'm sure it's been asked a thousand times before, but how can I get my site to the first page of Google now? That is obviously the last and most important step of this process at this point. Once I can see my site on the first page and receiving traffic, I will feel confident to move on to making my next site.

I would love to hear from the Amazon experts present on this forum, and I know there are many. Once you see that your product review site has been indexed, what steps do you take to get it to page 1 and how often are you successful?

I don't want to spend an endless amount of time trying to get it to page 1 when I could be more productive building another site, but I do want to make the initial effort simply because I know how important it is for my site to be present in the top 10 listings order to start receiving traffic and making sales.

I will stop rambling now, I think you see where I am going with this. Look forward to hearing from everyone. Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Several ways. Depending on the competition. For me, I rank my keywords just by going for lower competition shit. But what you can do, you can always create backlinks. High PR backlinks with a good trust flow, and low OBL will definitely help you there. Social bookmarking could help too.

    But definitely on-page SEO is important. Check the alt img tags, h1's, and so forth.
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    • Profile picture of the author markwilson4074
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Several ways. Depending on the competition. For me, I rank my keywords just by going for lower competition shit. But what you can do, you can always create backlinks. High PR backlinks with a good trust flow, and low OBL will definitely help you there. Social bookmarking could help too.

      But definitely on-page SEO is important. Check the alt img tags, h1's, and so forth.
      I second this suggestion. Its really important to have lots of backlinks from a different unique IPs and domains to produce maximum link diversity.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by markwilson4074 View Post

        I second this suggestion. Its really important to have lots of backlinks from a different unique IPs and domains to produce maximum link diversity.
        Yeah I would also say that when I had a link in my signature that sells 450 bookmarks at Fiverr.

        Many different IP's sure helps but not by just blindly building a whole bunch of crappy links.

        Go fool some noobs please.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I just picked one post title as an example:

        Ranks at #7

        [husqvarna hu625hwt review]
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        0 exact searches at the moment, although some people will probably search for it, not sure if it's a just released product

        Why not build a few links to make it show up in the top 3 as that's where most traffic comes from.

        See that's the whole thing I never understand about this strategy, it really doesn't take that much to break the top 3 while it can easily multiply traffic/sales by factor 5.
        I'm not going to get into it with you again, especially on someone else's thread. You have your opinion and I have mine.

        I will say this. Below are the target terms of each post on that site and where each one ranks in Google. Out of 19 posts, that site (with terrible content) owns 15 page one rankings and that doesn't include many other variations of the target terms.

        Poulan P3500 Review - 6
        Husqvarna HU625HWT Review - 7
        Poulan Pro PPWT60022 Review - 5
        WORX WG913.51 Review - 4
        Black & Decker ST7700 Review - 8
        Greenworks 21132A Review - 10
        Husqvarna 128DJx Review - 6
        Greenworks 21212 Review - >10
        Husqvarna 327HE3X Review - 4
        Husqvarna 346XP Review - >10
        Greenworks 20082A Review - 4
        Poulan PO17542LT Lawn Tractor Review - 3
        Husqvarna YTH2042 Lawn Tractor Review - 4
        Poulan PO500N22S Lawn Mower Review - 4
        WORX WG788 Lawn Mower Review - 7
        Troy-Bilt TB350XP Self Propelled Mower Review - >10
        WORX WG775 Lawn Mower Review - 6
        Green Works 25142 Lawn Mower 2 In 1 Review - >10
        Lawn Boy 10634 Review - 1

        My preference is to target lots of easy terms, rank easily, and get (collectively) lots of traffic from the posts as whole. As you can see from above, targeting easy terms and ranking works.

        There are, of course, other ways as well. Nik0 can explain how you can go about building 20 sites a month, building high PR private networks, hiring virtual assistants, and building backlinks to everything.

        I prefer the simplicity of my strategy, especially for newbies.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          I'm not going to get into it with you again, especially on someone else's thread. You have your opinion and I have mine.

          I will say this. Below are the target terms of each post on that site and where each one ranks in Google. Out of 19 posts, that site (with terrible content) owns 15 page one rankings and that doesn't include many other variations of the target terms.

          Poulan P3500 Review - 6
          Husqvarna HU625HWT Review - 7
          Poulan Pro PPWT60022 Review - 5
          WORX WG913.51 Review - 4
          Black & Decker ST7700 Review - 8
          Greenworks 21132A Review - 10
          Husqvarna 128DJx Review - 6
          Greenworks 21212 Review - >10
          Husqvarna 327HE3X Review - 4
          Husqvarna 346XP Review - >10
          Greenworks 20082A Review - 4
          Poulan PO17542LT Lawn Tractor Review - 3
          Husqvarna YTH2042 Lawn Tractor Review - 4
          Poulan PO500N22S Lawn Mower Review - 4
          WORX WG788 Lawn Mower Review - 7
          Troy-Bilt TB350XP Self Propelled Mower Review - >10
          WORX WG775 Lawn Mower Review - 6
          Green Works 25142 Lawn Mower 2 In 1 Review - >10
          Lawn Boy 10634 Review - 1

          My preference is to target lots of easy terms, rank easily, and get (collectively) lots of traffic from the posts as whole. As you can see from above, targeting easy terms and ranking works.

          There are, of course, other ways as well. Nik0 can explain how you can go about building 20 sites a month, building high PR private networks, hiring virtual assistants, and building backlinks to everything.

          I prefer the simplicity of my strategy, especially for newbies.
          The math is real simple, if you make $40 in 2 weeks with most rankings at the middle of page one, then you can easily double your traffic + income by building 10-20 high PR links.

          And for that you don't need to build a whole network of sites, hire VA's or anything like that, there are plenty of people who offer these type of links, to make it sound a bit less self promotional I would suggest people to look at the ********** forum (sorry forum name gets censored here, but it's just one of the smaller IM forums, not to hard to find), there are at least a dozen people with private networks that charge between $50-100 for 10 quality high PR blog posts.

          If that amount can raise your profits from $40 to $80/2 weeks then you've made your invested money back within 1 month, sure maybe it takes 20 links then it would've made it back within 2 months, which is still a pretty good deal.

          So advising people not to build back links is imo the silliest thing someone could ever say.

          Most of my kw's that are very similar to yours rank above Amazon.

          The OP asked how to get product reviews at page nr.1 and I provide the answer of how to get them at #1 to double/triple his sales so all together very relevant to OP's question.

          You don't even need to build links to each post, just pointing some juice to the homepage is sufficient to make all of the posts rank much better.
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          • Profile picture of the author wpxo
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            The math is real simple, if you make $40 in 2 weeks with most rankings at the middle of page one, then you can easily double your traffic + income by building 10-20 high PR links.

            And for that you don't need to build a whole network of sites, hire VA's or anything like that, there are plenty of people who offer these type of links, to make it sound a bit less self promotional I would suggest people to look at the ********** forum (sorry forum name gets censored here, but it's just one of the smaller IM forums, not to hard to find), there are at least a dozen people with private networks that charge between $50-100 for 10 quality high PR blog posts.

            If that amount can raise your profits from $40 to $80/2 weeks then you've made your invested money back within 1 month, sure maybe it takes 20 links then it would've made it back within 2 months, which is still a pretty good deal.

            So advising people not to build back links is imo the silliest thing someone could ever say.

            Most of my kw's that are very similar to yours rank above Amazon.

            The OP asked how to get product reviews at page nr.1 and I provide the answer of how to get them at #1 to double/triple his sales so all together very relevant to OP's question.

            You don't even need to build links to each post, just pointing some juice to the homepage is sufficient to make all of the posts rank much better.
            So you are saying that you can rank most product reviews in the top 3 with 10 high PR blog posts?
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by wpxo View Post

              So you are saying that you can rank most product reviews in the top 3 with 10 high PR blog posts?
              Yes indeed, obvious under the condition that it comes with a product number / product ID, like Wolfmiii always advices.

              See his other post where he posted the rankings of those keywords, that kind of kw's are we talking about.

              As you see most of those rank at the middle to bottom of page one without links, a dozen strong links can easily put them in the top 3.

              Most of my other keywords that have 1k exact searches now rank at page 2, 3 and 4 after the 10 high PR blog posts. Those are obvious a lot harder to push to the top 3 when you have to move 25 of them at the same time but they automatically get targeted in the post titles as well and will slowly climb up.
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              • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
                This is for one of my newer sites.

                Without backlinking other then social sharing.
                Start small then build up.
                Any terms that are low volume-low competition first like single product reviews you will see that larger content pieces will draw alot of longtail.
                Then start to tackle harder terms with 100 search volume then 200 so on so forth.
                Single product reviews have to have something unique to them , not the same rinse repeated bullshit , look at the first results of google with authoritive sites and read there content if yours seems subpar make it better, this will help you in the long run.
                I see the least traffic coming from my single product reviews than harder terms with more traffic.
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                • Profile picture of the author tryingtolearn
                  Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

                  This is for one of my newer sites.

                  Without backlinking other then social sharing.
                  Start small then build up.
                  Any terms that are low volume-low competition first like single product reviews you will see that larger content pieces will draw alot of longtail.
                  Then start to tackle harder terms with 100 search volume then 200 so on so forth.
                  Single product reviews have to have something unique to them , not the same rinse repeated bullshit , look at the first results of google with authoritive sites and read there content if yours seems subpar make it better, this will help you in the long run.
                  I see the least traffic coming from my single product reviews than harder terms with more traffic.
                  How many visitors per day to your site? And, how many clicks to amazon?
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                  • Profile picture of the author AmazonGuy
                    It doesn't solely depend on how much traffic you have , it depends on traffic quality (buyers), your conversion rate (you need to do some conversion testing) and if the traffic is from the U.S.
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                    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                      Originally Posted by AmazonGuy View Post

                      It doesn't solely depend on how much traffic you have , it depends on traffic quality (buyers), your conversion rate (you need to do some conversion testing) and if the traffic is from the U.S.
                      So many people forget about this.

                      Sure, Billy's site might receive 500 visitors per day but his 1% conversion rate isn't close to Stevie's 8% conversion rate with just 100 visitors per day.

                      Result? Billy makes 5 sales per day. Stevie makes 8 with 1/5 the traffic.

                      Throw in the geographic issue and the equation becomes even more skewed.
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              • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post


                As you see most of those rank at the middle to bottom of page one without links, a dozen strong links can easily put them in the top 3.
                Remember something Nik0. That content on that site is horrific and not mine. With better content, better on-page SEO, and better internal linking, rankings are typically even better.

                Thanks to GGPaul for posting his screenshot. I've been taken to task a few times this week over my super-simple strategy of, (GASP!) just creating content targeting low competition stuff. Will you want to grow? Sure. However, to get started, you need nothing more that 10-20 low competition products and a little bit of time.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            So advising people not to build back links is imo the silliest thing someone could ever say.
            Where did I ever "advise" anyone to NOT build links? I simply said that it's not "required" to make money with this strategy.

            Nik0...

            Brother, you have to stop looking at the strategy through the eyes of an "experienced" marketer. YOU are not my target audience. There are tools and strategies that you have a firmer understanding of than the typical new IMer. You've said yourself that my strategy suits the newbie very well.

            My strategy, in it's most basic form, is great for the person who hasn't figured out how to make money online. It's a simple strategy with no real moving parts and requires very little knowledge or experience. That's the beauty of it.

            GGPaul has always been my prime example that I hold up for people. He came to me MONTHS and MONTHS ago and asked about my strategy. I showed him how to do it and he ran with it and is now doing very well with it. Will he become a millionare with it? No. However, there isn't a newbie on this forum who wouldn't kill for what he earns with it.

            People on this site are always looking for "push-button" and "passive" income strategies. This is as close as you get to it. Spend a few hours per week publishing content and earn commissions. It's really that simple.

            I know there are other ways and a private network is something I've always been interested in. Know what though? I'm leery of it because finding non-fake PR sites that are good can be difficult. Eventually, I'll figure out how to identify good candidates and when that happens, I'll take a stab. It is for those same reasons that I DON'T recommend blog networks for newbies.
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            • Profile picture of the author imnewbie6
              Hey guys,

              I appreciate all the responses to my original post, but to be fair very few of these responses actually answered my original question which is advice or a process I can follow to get on page 1 of Google for my review site.

              It seems the the thread got way off topic somehow. So can anyone point me in the right direction for my original question?

              Thanks.
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              • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
                Originally Posted by imnewbie6 View Post

                Hey guys,

                I appreciate all the responses to my original post, but to be fair very few of these responses actually answered my original question which is advice or a process I can follow to get on page 1 of Google for my review site.

                It seems the the thread got way off topic somehow. So can anyone point me in the right direction for my original question?

                Thanks.
                You were told. Build links to the page until you get to number one. This ain't rocket science
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              • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                Originally Posted by imnewbie6 View Post

                It seems the the thread got way off topic somehow. So can anyone point me in the right direction for my original question?
                There are really two ways:
                1. Target higher competition products and spend time building backlinks.
                2. Target lower competition products / terms and rank on the strength of your on-page SEO/content

                If using option 1, make sure your content is good and then create more content and utilize Web 2.0 sites or a private blog network to rank. Just make sure the terms you are targeting are "buying" terms. Otherwise, you'll wind up with a bunch of traffic but no buyers.

                Oh, and remember, your SITE doesn't rank. Your PAGES/POSTS will. If you have a specific page you'd like to rank for a competitive term, get to work building those links.
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                • Profile picture of the author imnewbie6
                  Thanks, Wolf. Did you receive the PM I sent you?
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                  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                    Originally Posted by imnewbie6 View Post

                    Thanks, Wolf. Did you receive the PM I sent you?
                    Glad to help. I may have. I only check PMs every so often (my inbox is almost ALWAYS sitting at 400 messages). I'll get you a reply.

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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              Where did I ever "advise" anyone to NOT build links? I simply said that it's not "required" to make money with this strategy.

              I know there are other ways and a private network is something I've always been interested in. Know what though? I'm leery of it because finding non-fake PR sites that are good can be difficult. Eventually, I'll figure out how to identify good candidates and when that happens, I'll take a stab. It is for those same reasons that I DON'T recommend blog networks for newbies.
              Decent explanation, there are many pitfalls when building a network. People need to educate their selves on it or they can easily lose a whole bunch of money indeed.

              I just got the impression that you were generally against back links lol.

              It's not so hard to prevent buying a faked PR domain btw, it just requires some time as you have to check the PR of the back links to point at that domain and also keep an eye on the OBL and make sure it are not blog comment spam links as those don't last. Following those 2 simple rules prevents you from buying fake domains.

              Obvious you should never depend on tools like Fake PR checker, those are completely worthless.
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              • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post


                I just got the impression that you were generally against back links lol.
                No, not at all. I, personally, don't do much backlinking but I wouldn't say I'm against it.

                I've yet to find a good way for even locating potential network candidates. Are there any good sites/clearinghouses to use? If you'd rather not post in public, feel free to PM me if you are so inclined.
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                • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                  Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                  No, not at all. I, personally, don't do much backlinking but I wouldn't say I'm against it.

                  I've yet to find a good way for even locating potential network candidates. Are there any good sites/clearinghouses to use? If you'd rather not post in public, feel free to PM me if you are so inclined.
                  I would start with signing up for registercompass.net and take it from there. It's a paid web tool that you can use to filter the huge auctions to more workable lists, start with filtering on PR and such and enable the option to ignore fake PR.

                  Then when you're left with a few 1000 domains or less you can use a tool called Netpeak checker to check stats like DA/PA, Citation & Trustflow, MozRank, MozTrust and some other things like Alexa, number of back links and what not. Just another filter method.

                  After that you can use Spyglass to analyze the back links of the domains and start to bid on them.

                  Personally I use a broker that I've been using a long time already, he saves me a lot of time and mostly uses auctions other then GoDaddy, he also does a lot of back ordering. Personally I never dived into that. Can not share the broker details though as it's always a fight for the best ones when he sends out the list to his clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben K
    whether you will need links or not depends on competitions you are facing .
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    OKay. Where do I start. I'm not a fan of posting pictures but whatever. It's inspired some or a lot whatever, and a lot of you know I don't offer a service. I've helped tons of people in the past all for free. Now that I got a job (internet marketing), I'm probably going to be even more busy that I won't be posting here as often. Maybe then I'll start a site/service whatever. Until then, you can bug the shit out of me folks before things get hectic.

    Here's a screenshot of the amount of stuff I sold

    This isn't total, this is during a specific date. What date? Who cares. The thing is that I followed a system that WORKED for ME.

    I work with a business partner. My best friend actually. He researches the products, and I write them. I don't build backlinks, the only thing I do is ping them. I don't even use all-in-one SEO. I don't even rename my alt-images even though I recommend people to do so. I just go for these low competition products and I don't even utilize the Google Keyword Tool.

    I devote about less than 4 hours a week with my Amazon sites. What does that mean? 1) I'm lazy as hell. But that's changing ever since I started working =P. 2) A LOT of potential to grow more. And I've stated in the past and I'll state again that I am OPEN to other ideas. I don't CLOSE off other opportunities. I'm open to starting backlinks, I'm open to finding higher competition keywords that generates thousands of visitors. But I'm just sharing with what works for me, and that's targeting low keywords.

    And yes, the strat that I learned the most from was Wolfmmiii and Sojourn. I signed up to that amazontrainingacademy whatever, and haven't learned much to be honest. Or the fact that I already learned everything from Wolfmmii (great start up guide), where I can just expand on my own and utilize my own strategy.

    Seriously though, I'm not sweating tears, I'm not crying, and I'm making "ok" amount of $$. Enough to quit a 9-5 ? HELL NO. Potential to in the future? If I spend more than 4 hours a week on my Amazon sites sure. And perhaps testing things out.

    All I know is that there's so many ways to make something work. Same thing as what others say, so many ways to skin a cow or some shit? Cat? I forget. Whatever. Just stick to it, believe in what you do and just GO FOR IT.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cash37
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      OKay. Where do I start. I'm not a fan of posting pictures but whatever. It's inspired some or a lot whatever, and a lot of you know I don't offer a service. I've helped tons of people in the past all for free. Now that I got a job (internet marketing), I'm probably going to be even more busy that I won't be posting here as often. Maybe then I'll start a site/service whatever. Until then, you can bug the shit out of me folks before things get hectic.

      Here's a screenshot of the amount of stuff I sold

      This isn't total, this is during a specific date. What date? Who cares. The thing is that I followed a system that WORKED for ME.

      I work with a business partner. My best friend actually. He researches the products, and I write them. I don't build backlinks, the only thing I do is ping them. I don't even use all-in-one SEO. I don't even rename my alt-images even though I recommend people to do so. I just go for these low competition products and I don't even utilize the Google Keyword Tool.

      I devote about less than 4 hours a week with my Amazon sites. What does that mean? 1) I'm lazy as hell. But that's changing ever since I started working =P. 2) A LOT of potential to grow more. And I've stated in the past and I'll state again that I am OPEN to other ideas. I don't CLOSE off other opportunities. I'm open to starting backlinks, I'm open to finding higher competition keywords that generates thousands of visitors. But I'm just sharing with what works for me, and that's targeting low keywords.

      And yes, the strat that I learned the most from was Wolfmmiii and Sojourn. I signed up to that amazontrainingacademy whatever, and haven't learned much to be honest. Or the fact that I already learned everything from Wolfmmii (great start up guide), where I can just expand on my own and utilize my own strategy.

      Seriously though, I'm not sweating tears, I'm not crying, and I'm making "ok" amount of $$. Enough to quit a 9-5 ? HELL NO. Potential to in the future? If I spend more than 4 hours a week on my Amazon sites sure. And perhaps testing things out.

      All I know is that there's so many ways to make something work. Same thing as what others say, so many ways to skin a cow or some shit? Cat? I forget. Whatever. Just stick to it, believe in what you do and just GO FOR IT.
      Screenshot means nothing if youre not going to say how long the period this reflects.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Cash37 View Post

        Screenshot means nothing if youre not going to say how long the period this reflects.
        I can tell you that GGPaul started following the low-comp strategy 3-5 months ago if I am recalling our first communications correctly.

        He can correct me if I'm wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author germoney
    Making real money on amazon is not about backlinks. Of course you can build a few good backlinks to strenghten your domain & innerpages but it is essential that you have LOTS of content. Amazon is one of my main income sources and the only secret I learnt so far is... Have a plan how you will create masses of articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Shaw
    Ha ha... I love these Amazon rants.

    1) Mass target low comp or...
    2) Mass linking to high comp

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  • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
    In post #5 above in this very interesting discussion, Nik0 points out that the post title "husqvarna hu625hwt review" has a search volume of 0. But when the word "review" is removed, the search volume is 58.

    Wolfmmii, it looks like you just automatically add "review" to all your reviews, but by "low search volume" as regards the above example, are you referring to 58 rather than 0? If so, is this because you expect Google to rank your page on the basis of the keyword phrase "husqvarna hu625hw?"

    All other things being equal, does this generally work out for you, that Google ranks your posts according the keyword minus the word "review?"
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

      All other things being equal, does this generally work out for you, that Google ranks your posts according the keyword minus the word "review?"
      Nope.

      Btw people should use the word "reviews" at the end of the product, those get in many cases much more searches then Product + review, although it does read a bit more natural it can sometimes make a difference of factor 10.

      I discovered that yesterday where the product + review had 150 exact searches and the "product + reviews" had 1800 exact searches or something like that.
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      • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Nope.

        Btw people should use the word "reviews" at the end of the product, those get in many cases much more searches then Product + review, although it does read a bit more natural it can sometimes make a difference of factor 10.

        I discovered that yesterday where the product + review had 150 exact searches and the "product + reviews" had 1800 exact searches or something like that.
        That's interesting, Nik0, but I'm sure I'm not the only former teacher who is uncomfortable writing something that sounds unnatural, even if it would pull in more views.

        By the way, I was addressing my question about keywords to Wolfmmii.
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          Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

          That's interesting, Nik0, but I'm sure I'm not the only former teacher who is uncomfortable writing something that sounds unnatural, even if it would pull in more views.

          By the way, I was addressing my question about keywords to Wolfii.
          I know but I wanted to make the post about the "reviews" part and though I just gave a quick answer.

          Btw if you read the thread properly then you would've known the answer already and otherwise a quick Google search would've showed it, or just using some common sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post


      Wolfii, it looks like you just automatically add "review" to all your reviews, but by "low search volume" as regards the above example, are you referring to 58 rather than 0?
      I don't look at search volume so either one works.


      If so, is this because you expect Google to rank your page on the basis of the keyword phrase "husqvarna hu625hw?"
      My low-comp sites rank for (and get traffic from) all kinds of variants (model, model review, model reviews, brand model, brand model review, brand model reviews, etc).


      All other things being equal, does this generally work out for you, that Google ranks your posts according the keyword minus the word "review?"
      See above.
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    What WP template do you find to be the best for Amazon marketing?
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    I prefer several from theme-junkie but none in particular. Content drives conversions. What I WOULD say is to stay away from all of those "-zon review" style themes. They look spammy and not legitimate.
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      This thread is all over the place....lol
      I love these type of threads
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    Once I can see my site on the first page and receiving traffic, I will feel confident to move on to making my next site.
    don't want to spend an endless amount of time trying to get it to page 1 when I could be more productive building another site
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      Originally Posted by RogerMayer View Post

      Wolfmiii what theme do you recommend for amazon affiliate ? Should I use Azontheme, affilo theme?
      Use something clean and one that a million other affiliates aren't using. I favor many of the theme-junkie themes.
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    Any of those themes would probably work well Roger. The content is more important than the theme.
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    Hey Roger, wolfmmiii answered that question already in this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...te-themes.html
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    wolfmmiii I know you are selling an amazon theme? is that theme your most profitable theme? for amazon?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by RogerMayer View Post

      wolfmmiii I know you are selling an amazon theme? is that theme your most profitable theme? for amazon?
      It's not a theme. I've PM'd you with the details.
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        Hey Wolf,

        I responded to your PM regarding my initial question. Let me know if you've received it.

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  • Profile picture of the author manishak
    Well, I have been using Wolfmmiii's strategy, and right now I can't say that things are rosy for me (my site is 3 months old). I even got some back linking done, but still things are not going north. I have over 100 low competition product reviews on my site. Being a content writer with over 10 years of experience, I can't say that my content is bad. It is extremely well researched and at times I spend over 2-3 hours understanding the product, and then write about it (I have a strong science background).

    Out of all those reviews on my website, at present, about 20 are on the first page, some on the second page while many are buried deep down the Google results. Why is that so? How come they all don't show in the first page. The first page shows too many low quality websites. Is it because their backs linking is very strong? These websites have scraped content from Amazon. It seems they have just copied and pasted it. But still they are pretty high in results. While my well researched content is nowhere close to it.

    It is too confusing. How long will it take before my sites gain any momentum? Do I need to create Web 2.0 websites to support my site? Or should I wait for a few more months for the domain to age?
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      Originally Posted by manishak View Post

      Well, I have been using Wolfmmiii's strategy, and right now I can't say that things are rosy for me (my site is 3 months old). I even got some back linking done, but still things are not going north. I have over 100 low competition product reviews on my site. Being a content writer with over 10 years of experience, I can't say that my content is bad. It is extremely well researched and at times I spend over 2-3 hours understanding the product, and then write about it (I have a strong science background).

      Out of all those reviews on my website, at present, about 20 are on the first page, some on the second page while many are buried deep down the Google results. Why is that so? How come they all don't show in the first page. The first page shows too many low quality websites. Is it because their backs linking is very strong? These websites have scraped content from Amazon. It seems they have just copied and pasted it. But still they are pretty high in results. While my well researched content is nowhere close to it.

      It is too confusing. How long will it take before my sites gain any momentum? Do I need to create Web 2.0 websites to support my site? Or should I wait for a few more months for the domain to age?
      Is it the site in your signature? If so your site annoys me heavily.

      I expect to end up on a review page by clicking on one of your post titles and instead I am instantly redirected to Amazon. That doesn't make for a very friendly user experience.

      Also it's not smart to use your keyword in your signature on this forum, that way you get way too many links with that same anchor txt, replace it with your URL instead and then that is at least solved.

      Also when I click on one of your photo's I get an empty screen with only the photo in the same size, if it enlarged it it had at least a purpose, now it has zero purpose so what's the point of it? Remove that url out of the photo or replace it with an Amazon link, but obvious only place those Amazon links inside the review post. Not on the homepage.

      As about ranking, perhaps Google Panda doesn't like the way you've setup your stuff, I don't like it either. Or maybe there is a little more competition then you would think.

      Anyone start with fixing those issue's and then after build a few strong links and you should rank in no time.

      What I also don't like about your site is that it has no header, just empty blue space, and above that empty blue space you have a banner. Then at least put that banner inside the header.

      Ok sorry for the criticism and many does not have much to do with the rankings I agree, but still, some things could be part of it, and in general when people don't like your site they leave fast, so that kills your bounce rate, and again that can have to do with poor rankings.

      So pretty things up first and then take it from there!
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      • Profile picture of the author manishak
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Is it the site in your signature? If so your site annoys me heavily.

        I expect to end up on a review page by clicking on one of your post titles and instead I am instantly redirected to Amazon. That doesn't make for a very friendly user experience.

        Also it's not smart to use your keyword in your signature on this forum, that way you get way too many links with that same anchor txt, replace it with your URL instead and then that is at least solved.

        Also when I click on one of your photo's I get an empty screen with only the photo in the same size, if it enlarged it it had at least a purpose, now it has zero purpose so what's the point of it? Remove that url out of the photo or replace it with an Amazon link, but obvious only place those Amazon links inside the review post. Not on the homepage.

        As about ranking, perhaps Google Panda doesn't like the way you've setup your stuff, I don't like it either. Or maybe there is a little more competition then you would think.

        Anyone start with fixing those issue's and then after build a few strong links and you should rank in no time.

        What I also don't like about your site is that it has no header, just empty blue space, and above that empty blue space you have a banner. Then at least put that banner inside the header.

        Ok sorry for the criticism and many does not have much to do with the rankings I agree, but still, some things could be part of it, and in general when people don't like your site they leave fast, so that kills your bounce rate, and again that can have to do with poor rankings.

        So pretty things up first and then take it from there!
        Thanks for your suggestions Nik0. This is not the site in question. However, I might as well implement your suggestions on this site. I am talking about a diff site which I won't be able to name here... With over 100 reviews and 3 months age, how long will it take to take off?
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by manishak View Post

          Thanks for your suggestions Nik0. This is not the site in question. However, I might as well implement your suggestions on this site. I am talking about a diff site which I won't be able to name here... With over 100 reviews and 3 months age, how long will it take to take off?
          Honestly, I think it's a whole hit or miss strategy to not build links and not focus on keyword research.

          Your site seems to be the proof of that.

          I always said it's necessary to build links as it makes no sense to rank at bottom page 1 when you could rank all the posts at the top of page 1 with some strong links. Or in your case not even rank at page one for the majority of your posts.

          Also as I stated earlier somewhere, not ranking equals missing out on potential money that you could've made. Now you are waiting 3 months already. How long more? Who knows, perhaps another 3 months, perhaps never. That is a lot of money lost.

          The basic foundation of what Wolf teaches is fine, nothing wrong with that, but you have to give your own twist to those basics to make real money and achieve real rankings in a short amount of time, cause if you don't you are leaving money on the table. So simple is it.
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          • Profile picture of the author manishak
            I did some back linking like I mentioned in the first post here. But that is also not really helping.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    @manishak....

    If you aren't ranking, the strategy won't work. Rankings are obviously key. PM me your site and I'll take a look and see what's up and what suggestions I can make. I suspect competition is stronger than what you realize for the products you are targeting.

    That bestlawngarden.com site I used as an example earlier is ranking for virtually every target term and the content is terrible.

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    • Profile picture of the author manishak
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      @manishak....

      If you aren't ranking, the strategy won't work. Rankings are obviously key. PM me your site and I'll take a look and see what's up and what suggestions I can make. I suspect competition is stronger than what you realize for the products you are targeting.

      That bestlawngarden.com site I used as an example earlier is ranking for virtually every target term and the content is terrible.

      Tom
      Sent you an email. Kindly take a look.
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      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      @manishak....

      If you aren't ranking, the strategy won't work. Rankings are obviously key. PM me your site and I'll take a look and see what's up and what suggestions I can make. I suspect competition is stronger than what you realize for the products you are targeting.

      That bestlawngarden.com site I used as an example earlier is ranking for virtually every target term and the content is terrible.

      Tom
      The content on bestlawngarden is truly awful! It might be ranking for now....I'm guessing it is not making many sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Stevie C View Post

        The content on bestlawngarden is truly awful! It might be ranking for now....I'm guessing it is not making many sales.
        It IS awful. It's content on a starter site that a client created and a domain name chosen by the client. Eventually, I'll get around to fixing the content that the client posted. I was simply using it to demonstrate that ranking for low competition terms is stupid-easy, even with horrific content.

        However, it IS making sales ($40 or so in commissions in the last 7 days).
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  • Profile picture of the author nnr21
    Wolf please post what was the problem with Manishak's site. As you know I already ordered a site from you I don't want another failure after 3 months of work and after writing 100s of reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Let me start by saying this. The only thing that ManishaK purchased from me in this case was the site build. I had no hand in actual product selection or content creation. As such, most of what ManishaK is doing is out of my control completely.

    @manishaK....

    There are a few issues with your site. I won't reveal the niche but will say this is probably THE most successful niche of all my clients.

    I'm noticing a few things:
    1. Your homepage is ranking for some terms that your inner pages should be ranking for. I didn't get into troubleshooting but that's a problem. Your inner pages are what you want ranking.

    2. I noticed that some products you are targeting are higher competition. Without backlinking (internal or external), ranking for more competitive products will be difficult.

    3. I also noticed that even when I search for your exact post titles in quotes, your site turns up for very few of them, even when there are only a handful of results. This is typically indicative of some sort of penalty, which would be usually be caused by an issue with content/linking.

    4. I haven't looked closely at the content but the weird way in which things are ranking almost looks like Panda or Penguin. That said, I can't be sure.
    I suggest adding your site to Google Webmaster Tools and seeing if they provide you with any info.

    @nnr21...

    ManishaK did not purchase the same offer as you. There was no earnings guarantee or product list supplied by me. As such, there is very little within my control regarding the site in question.

    As for three months of work and "hundreds" of reviews, I'm not sure where you are getting that info from. You will know after 20 reviews how the site is going. ManishaK is doing something different than what we'll be doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author manishak
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Let me start by saying this. The only thing that ManishaK purchased from me in this case was the site build. I had no hand in actual product selection or content creation. As such, most of what ManishaK is doing is out of my control completely.

      @manishaK....

      There are a few issues with your site. I won't reveal the niche but will say this is probably THE most successful niche of all my clients.

      I'm noticing a few things:
      1. You homepage is ranking for some terms that your inner pages should be ranking for. I didn't get into troubleshooting but that's a problem. Your inner pages are what you want ranking.

      2. I noticed that some products you are targeting are higher competition. Without backlinking (internal or external), ranking for more competitive products will be difficult.

      3. I also noticed that even when I search for your exact post titles in quotes, your site turns up for very few of them, even when there are only a handful of results. This is typically indicative of some sort of penalty, which would be usually be caused by an issue with content/linking.

      4. I haven't looked closely at the content but the weird way in which things are ranking almost looks like Panda or Penguin. That said, I can't be sure.
      I suggest adding your site to Google Webmaster Tools and seeing if they provide you with any info.
      Thanks for taking a look. As for content, I am not sure what does that mean - why should I get penalty? I am writing naturally - the way an article is written.

      Also I couldn't understand this - "haven't looked closely at the content but the weird way in which things are ranking almost looks like Panda or Penguin." How are things ranking like Panda and Penguin?

      I don't know where am I wrong?

      I have added my website to webmasters and nothing wrong appears there.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by manishak View Post

        Thanks for taking a look. As for content, I am not sure what does that mean - why should I get penalty?
        I couldn't say with certainty. I haven't really looked at the content to really know if its good or not. It may be fine. It's just the way things are ranking (and not ranking) makes me think something is amiss.

        You also mentioned link building. Without knowing what you did, I really am kind of flying blind.

        Also I couldn't understand this - "haven't looked closely at the content but the weird way in which things are ranking almost looks like Panda or Penguin." How are things ranking like Panda and Penguin?
        If I take your post title and search for it in quotes, almost every single one of them should show up on page one. I didn't see that for the handful that I tested.

        I don't know where am I wrong?

        I have added my website to webmasters and nothing wrong appears there.
        Without spending a decent amount of time going over the site, it would be difficult to identify the exact issue.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          I couldn't say with certainty. I haven't really looked at the content to really know if its good or not. It may be fine. It's just the way things are ranking (and not ranking) makes me think something is amiss.
          Nothing wrong with the site.

          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          You also mentioned link building. Without knowing what you did, I really am kind of flying blind.
          Only a handful of back links that are build about a weeks ago according to Ahrefs.

          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          If I take your post title and search for it in quotes, almost every single one of them should show up on page one. I didn't see that for the handful that I tested.
          No wonder if you only look at reviews that are posted within the last 5 days, I see the same with my site, first the homepage ranks for the kw, after a couple of days or at most 2 weeks the kw ranks for the correct page. If you took the time to click 2 times on older posts to end up on page 3 on his site then you would've seen that the post titles do rank for the correct url's.

          I checked about 10 titles and they all show up on page 1 when I put quotes around it.

          He is ranking at page 2 and 3 for most of his keywords, for the simple reason that his competitors have much more authority and back links and thus it's sufficient for them to only put the word "review" or "reviews" in their (meta) description. And if you would've taken a good look, which costed me 15 minutes in total, then you would've seen that 95% of the sites have that word review in their descriptions.

          So this strategy of writing content without back linking simply doesn't work well enough for his niche as there is too much competition.

          When we take one of the titles and we search in Google with allintitle: in front of it then it shows 147 results, so yeah if 147 people, actually less, are doing a similar thing then it's hard to all fit at the 1st page in Google
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post


            So this strategy of writing content without back linking simply doesn't work well enough for his niche as there is too much competition.
            That's simply not true, especially for the niche in question. As much as you don't want the strategy to work, it does. This person's niche is probably THE best niche that I've seen so far for this strategy. I have no fewer than a hlaf dozen or so clients doing very well in this niche so what you are saying is simply not true.

            Now, I don't know what the competition is like for this person's specific products because I didn't have a hand in the product selection. As such, he may just be targeting products that are a bit more competitive (which I've already mentioned).
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            first the homepage ranks for the kw, after a couple of days or at most 2 weeks the kw ranks for the correct page.
            Sorry, again, not the case (at least with this strategy). When targeting these low comp products, the actual review should almost always be the page that ranks right out of the gate.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              Sorry, again, not the case (at least with this strategy). When targeting these low comp products, the actual review should almost always be the page that ranks right out of the gate.
              I think that issue with the homepage showing up first has nothing to do with the strategy but much more about how often a site gets crawled.

              It might also have to do with the quality of the content, I just took a better look and the articles are pretty poor written, plenty of grammar issue's.

              Perhaps that's why he shows up at page 2 and 3 indeed.

              Still with back links he would rank at page one for most
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        Originally Posted by manishak View Post

        Thanks for taking a look. As for content, I am not sure what does that mean - why should I get penalty? I am writing naturally - the way an article is written.

        Also I couldn't understand this - "haven't looked closely at the content but the weird way in which things are ranking almost looks like Panda or Penguin." How are things ranking like Panda and Penguin?

        I don't know where am I wrong?

        I have added my website to webmasters and nothing wrong appears there.
        Send me the url and I'll take a look at your back link profile.
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  • Profile picture of the author nnr21
    Wolf. I got scared when Manishak mentioned 100 reviews and 3 months (just wrote one s extra). If he has written 100 reviews and 3 months with no traffic undoubtedly he is doing something wrong as I have seen more success than failure with your strategy.

    If sites having content like bestlawngarden.com rank then anysite with decent content should rank. That is the reason I am taking guidance from you regarding product selection and site building. May be I will also buy some fivver gigs from you for my future products.

    One more thing. I can see more contents on the site bestlawngarden.com? Do you have any plans for that site or you are keeping this as a case study?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by nnr21 View Post

      Wolf. I got scared when Manishak mentioned 100 reviews and 3 months (just wrote one s extra). If he has written 100 reviews and 3 months with no traffic undoubtedly he is doing something wrong as I have seen more success than failure with your strategy.

      If sites having content like bestlawngarden.com rank then anysite with decent content should rank. That is the reason I am taking guidance from you regarding product selection and site building. May be I will also buy some fivver gigs from you for my future products.

      One more thing. I can see more contents on the site bestlawngarden.com? Do you have any plans for that site or you are keeping this as a case study?
      Yeah, I wouldn't panic. Look, are some people going to fail with this strategy? Absolutely. I make no bones about it. However, many, many folks have had lots of success with the low-comp strategy. I'm a straight-up guy. I'm not someone who is going to tell you what you want to hear to make a buck.

      I DO have plans to repair that site. Eventually, I'll rearrange and improve the content and either build it out or sell it off.

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  • Profile picture of the author manishak
    If you have tested the recent ones, then they won't show in results. But the older entries do show up. I am following your strategy to the dot, then how can I have high competition keywords? Could you provide me with some low competition keywords - like you have them on your site for Oct 2012?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Know what man, I don't even know why I'm debating with you. You follow me around the forum and show up every time I post. If you want to exert your energy telling everyone that a PROVEN strategy doesn't work, go ahead. You clearly have some sort of personal vendetta and that's cool. I'm just gonna take the high road from now on.

    Ok all. Party's over. Nik0's right. Targeting products/terms that nobody else is targeting makes absolutely no sense when it comes to rankings and has nothing to do with how easy it can be to rank.

    It makes more sense for the newbie to target "laptop reviews" and pay a VA to help build 20 sites a month to target that term while also spending hundreds (or thousands) on your own private blog network that you have no idea how to build.

    Be sure to buy your high-PR backlinks from Nik0!

    I'm done here. Nik0, you are free to continue. Debating you is not worth my time.

    For anyone else paying attention, I leave you with this:

    Thinking it through logically...

    When you target a term that nobody else is targeting as evidenced by a first page of search results that includes 10 sites with no backlinks (or very few) and PR of 0 or NA, do you think your chances of ranking for that term are "good" or "bad"?

    Your answer tells you all you need to know about the low-comp strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author manishak
    Thank you both for taking a look at my website. I think if things are more-or-less ok, it is just a matter of time. Tom, I will continue using your strategy (since I am already following it) and post an update after a month. If things go better before, I'll update earlier. It could be possible that the products I am reviewing do not have many takers... Or perhaps it's just my stars...

    And oh! The content is not poor. It is way too good as compared to similar review sites!
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Pickstone
    Awesome Thread. Alot of Wisdom Here.

    If i were a newbie and were to take any advise out of all from this. It would be to start on a low competition keyword. See results and work your way up to more competitive search terms.

    You can see how competitive a search term is by doing a quick search in google, and having a look to see how many competing pages there are. This should give you a good indication if you have a good or bad possibility to rank for a particular or not. When you see results. Keep Going.. Move onto the next one.. Make sure you are tracking everything! And try different things (backlinking, link swapping Etc) And see what works and what isnt. Testing is a huge part of this business. Have to Keep that in mind.

    Best to your Success!

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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by Matt Pickstone View Post

      Awesome Thread. Alot of Wisdom Here.

      If i were a newbie and were to take any advise out of all from this. It would be to start on a low competition keyword. See results and work your way up to more competitive search terms.

      You can see how competitive a search term is by doing a quick search in google, and having a look to see how many competing pages there are. This should give you a good indication if you have a good or bad possibility to rank for a particular or not. When you see results. Keep Going.. Move onto the next one.. Make sure you are tracking everything! And try different things (backlinking, link swapping Etc) And see what works and what isnt. Testing is a huge part of this business. Have to Keep that in mind.

      Best to your Success!

      Matt
      The bolded part, in my opinion, is the most important aspect. By simply playing around with where I place affiliate links and anchor text, I've managed to increase CTR, as well as income by twice as much in the past week. And I'm not talking about from $10 to $20.
      Is a week long enough to draw a firm conclusion? Probably not. But this just goes to show how important testing is.
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  • Profile picture of the author haero
    Yes, I always start with onpage SEO - use SEO by Yoast and input meta tags, keywords description, etc. for every single page or post. Then find good keywords, and place them withing your blog posts. Do not overuse the keywords, and try to write longer posts, not just few paragraphs. You'll see the longer the content, the SEO by Yoast will indicate the level of SEO quality - when you see the color "green" you did the onpage SEO well. And ofcrouse the rest of the SEO - link building, social bookmarking, article writing, submitting - the usual staff...
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  • Profile picture of the author Pritom
    Ha ha... I love these Amazon
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