Big Changes to YouTube SEO

Did you check the backlinks? Are they being spammed by low quality sites with over optimized anchor text?

Click the Video tab at the top of Google Search.

Correction - their rankings are not gone; they dropped 50 positions.

The problem is, I'm not sure how Yukon can be "objective" about ranking videos with spam when he is a whitehat marketer (afaik).

And I hate when rumors like this get spread because they are completely false. Spam is >>still working<< to rank videos. If you ask me, its working better than ever right now. Because people don't really seem to understand whats going on.

Over the last few months youtube HAS cracked down. But you need to know the back story. They made a promise to their investors back in December, that they would get rid of "fake click" providers. That was the promise that was broadcast on tv and radio in the media.

What actually happened is youtube started patching retention view scripts like never before. Like they use to do a patch every few months, then they started doing them every month, then every week, then literally every 2-3 days. And it took out nearly ALL retention view suppliers on blackhatworld. You'd see them patch what YT did then YT would patch what they did a few days later.... over and over and over. Then hysteria built up so much and a bunch of random newbies made a thread about it.

Then that hysteria has slowly been migrating to warrior forum and other places on the web.

Keep in mind, the real blackhat video marketers do no hang out on this forum.

I know a lot of them, and I talk privately with them by skype and email. They are ALL killing it right now with spam. And it has actually become EASIER to rank videos with spam.

Let me explain why:

1) YTs aggressive actions only took out the shittiest of RV suppliers. This includes RV suppliers that were using cheap, crappy scripts to deliver their RV's.

2) That is ALL we have real evidence of. And we can back up that evidence just by looking at all the sellers who went out of business.

3) Let me reiterate, YTs actions have been boldy against retention views. NOT people using spam backlinks to rank videos, but retention views. And many people are assuming the problem is backlinks because they haven't found a new retention view supplier. They keep using the same ones, getting their videos banned then blame it on backlinks. I had one newbie tell me that his video was "deranked" because of the spam he used. Then I went to his account and looked at his video, and realized that Google didn't "derank" anything. It was youtube who DELETED his original video, then REUPLOADED it to his account. And he never even looked at the date on his video to realize what youtube had done. He just saw the video in his account, saw it wasn't ranking anymore, and didn't even bother to figure out that YT is deleting videos and reuploading them if they suspect you're using retention views.

Thats whats leading to all these false red flags and rumors.

So let me explain the "new way" to rank on youtube (what spammers are doing).

The new way requires that you spend A LOT of money testing retention view suppliers. I put down quite a bit of money to do NOTHING but test every retention view supplier I could. And 90% of them lead to my videos getting banned (youtube would delete them then reupload them to my account). And at one point I even suspected myself that it was my backlinks.

That was right up until I found an underground RV supplier. And then NONE of my videos were getting banned. They ALL started ranking 100xs easier, faster and my GSA spam started working again like normally.

So what you see right now is a silent war between patchable RV suppliers and nonpatchable RV suppliers.

Patchable RV suppliers are saying stuff like "order my service, my views can't be patched" but then you order their service, and 3-4 weeks later your video is GONE. Then the supplier says "it must have been your video content or backlinks". And unexperienced marketers don't know how to isolate what the real problem is, so they buy into what these suppliers are telling them, which is >>>> FALSE.

Nonpatchable RV suppliers are much harder to find. The only way you can really find them is by investing money and running tons of split tests.

And I was able to find several new, nonpatchable RV suppliers just by doing weeks of research, and using as many different suppliers as possible. The ones that were successful, I kept using them to make sure I didn't get lucky. And its now that I'm realizing that their technique is truley "nonpatchable". Which means the way they're getting views, it would be IMPOSSIBLE for youtube to patch the method. Because they're NOT using scripts. They're doing something much smarter that I would prefer not to talk about (its basically a smart way of exploiting view exchange sites).

And right now, my videos are ranking BETTER than they EVER HAVE.

The reason is that a STRIKING MAJORITY of video marketers have thrown the towel in and said "screw this". Youtube HAS successfully ruined the lives of many video marketers.

But I have found at least a dozen marketers who were smart enough to do what I did, and they are now ranking videos easier than ever.

Because there is virtually NO COMPETITION right now on youtube. Its amazing. All the idiot marketers using patchable methods, they're getting their videos taken down like clockwork in 2-4 weeks.

Meanwhile, I have videos moving up the SERPs to page 1 of G every other week. And I have a few videos ranking for some highly competitive keywords. I have been BLASTING these videos with GSA some for 9 months now and they've been #1 the entire time. My entire link profile isn't GSA though. When I started those videos I used a mix of high pr links with GSA. Then after they ranked I just continued using GSA to keep them ranked.

These days I prefer low competition keywords. Cause I can rank a lot more. They typically rank in 4-6 weeks and once they're up they don't drop. They rank faster, convert faster, and its much easier to get traffic by going for the low hanging fruit. Some of these keywords get like 10,000-30,000 searches a month. And I've actually seen competitors videos ranking right above mine (as I'm ranking) then their videos get taken down and mine stick. And its a great feeling to actually KNOW what I'm doing.

When it comes to ranking sites is another story. But ranking videos is one thing I know how to do. And I can personally vouch for the fact that there are many marketers still banking off spam.

-RS

I love your stuff bro, seriously. Maybe it's because I'm from the NY/Jersey area originally. You tell it like it is and you do so only after obviously DOING it first. Anyway, I don't know how anyone could actually think people don't go to YT to watch a SINGLE video? Millions a day do so ... LOL

Ranking a custom self hosted video sales page has many more benefits to ranking a youtube video. You have full control and it is more than likely to convert much better.

But it is also very true that ranking Youtube videos is far easier.

If you had a choice to rank your own self hosted videos or Youtube ones then I'm certain the majority would like their own videos ranked however we cant ignore the fact that much more work is required to rank your own self hosted videos.

Good grief, that Youtube mentality in Google SERPs is the exact same thing the Slideshare guys preach.

Your giving away traffic to your competition.

This thread is full of link spammers is all it is, that's why few aren't ranking money pages, they can't get decent links.