Sad Truth about Making Money Online

8 years ago

I couldn't agree more. The people who succeed are those who take it seriously and put in real, prolonged effort. They have a plan that they follow and they stick to it, knowing that it may take quite awhile before they see results. They seek out answers when they are confused, they learn how to do new things that they use to better their websites. They realize that a website is never truly "done" - there are always ways to improve it; more content to add, more backlinks to get.

Anyone can be successful if they truly apply themselves and have a little patience. Unfortunately, too may people see life as a sprint and not a a long distance race. When they don't see immediate results, they quit (which is why so many diets fail and gym memberships are canceled, I suspect).

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johnben1444

8 years ago

Well said and before the newbies starts wondering why it's so. It's because making money online needs a learning curve.

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CityCowboy

8 years ago

Very true and motivating...

It's actually good that people quit too early because they leave it ALL for the rest of us to make some money.

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EPoltrack77

8 years ago

The funny part about it is you have super affiliates promoting Clickbank offers making $48,000 per day. Most people won't understand that but its 100% true.

We also tend to over complicate things. We say to ourselvs there has to be more to it than this. Go to an affiliate network and pick a offer that is selling like hotcakes. Then send traffic which is where most people fail and the third thing is converting that traffic with your campaigns.

I'll be honest. It takes work to get traffic. It's easy but there is no push button system. The closest you can get to that is with like PPC or banner advertising.

Pinterest for example is a 100% free site and I am getting dozens and dozens of views and signups to my list AND sales with it. WHY? Because I am consistent and spend 15 minutes to a half hour per day using it and its driving alot of traffic.

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youngestceo

8 years ago

Nice one. People need to know this success generally comes with a price and you must be willing to pay it if you want to succeed

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jamesbartram

8 years ago

Hey guys,

Personally, i love the challenge of generating targeted traffic and using the methods i know work. It all really comes down to consistent action- whether its forum marketing, social media- facebook, instagram, compiling your email list and sending a set structure of emails out to them- whatever it is, it needs to be done consistently and with genuine value in the content. I think the myth really is that free traffic can get you results quickly. It can't, but it will do eventually providing you stick with it.

Hope you are well guys!

James.

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Gallag97

8 years ago

100% true. I had a couple friends who i started working online with. 2 of us made it through to making some good money online, but our third friends feel out. he just didn't have what it takes.

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JohnVianny

8 years ago

Most of people get confused in a LOT OF MESS and TOOLS and etc...

WHY?

cause there are too much opportunities over there and.... too much scam.

Why reinvent the wheel?

FOCUS on the basic principles.

Stick to the plan and dont give up.

I see lots of people who give up are doing the same thing: DABBING.

It's better stick to the digital marketer customer value optimization: which is essentialy.

OPT IN PAGE - MARKET FUNNEL - SELL.
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Easy concepts with a lot of effort to put in.

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ProducerK

8 years ago

80 hours a week of grinding for over 4 years and you can get close to making a million a year. This shit is not easy or for the weak of heart..... Otherwise we would all be millionaires already.

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Regional Warrior

8 years ago

Originally Posted by ProducerK

80 hours a week of grinding for over 4 years and you can get close to making a million a year. This shit is not easy or for the weak of heart..... Otherwise we would all be millionaires already.

100% PK

Look at all the Warriors that have left over the last 12 months and the amount of money thrown away because they wanted it now and not tomorrow

You really have to work hard and the three things I did learn was graphics , videos, and webdesign . Do that and you have full control of your projects
work out what you want and do it take Action and remember this is Job and you are the boss so work hard so you don't fire your arse.

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Jeff Burritt

Banned 8 years ago

Yes, couldn't agree more. I tried outsourcing everything in the beginning. It was expensive and frustrating. Then got mad, got determined, and learned some skills myself like photoshop, premiere pro and wordpress so I could take back control over my projects!

Originally Posted by Regional Warrior

100% PK

Look at all the Warriors that have left over the last 12 months and the amount of money thrown away because they wanted it now and not tomorrow

You really have to work hard and the three things I did learn was graphics , videos, and webdesign . Do that and you have full control of your projects
work out what you want and do it take Action and remember this is Job and you are the boss so work hard so you don't fire your arse.

Jason

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MikeAmbrosio

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt

Yes, couldn't agree more. I tried outsourcing everything in the beginning. It was expensive and frustrating. Then got mad, got determined, and learned some skills myself like photoshop, premiere pro and wordpress so I could take back control over my projects!

I actually did this in reverse. I taught myself the website building, graphics, etc. because I couldn't afford to hire people. Now I don't have the time, and do have the funds, so I hire it out.

One thing I have learned in my years on line is that many who don't make it were trying to "make money on line" and many who did become successful found ways to "build a business on line". Once people learn the difference between the two, some things will change...

One thing I don't agree with that a few people mentioned - the thought that anyone can do this. NOT everyone can do this. Hard work and determination will only get you so far.

Not everyone is cut out to do this and there's nothing wrong with that.

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discrat

8 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

One thing I have learned in my years on line is that many who don't make it were trying to "make money on line" and many who did become successful found ways to "build a business on line". Once people learn the difference between the two, some things will change...

Yep so true. And there is nothing wrong with the former so long as you do NOT confuse to the two and think you are doing one but actually just doing the other

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JbreezeA

8 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

I actually did this in reverse. I taught myself the website building, graphics, etc. because I couldn't afford to hire people. Now I don't have the time, and do have the funds, so I hire it out.

One thing I have learned in my years on line is that many who don't make it were trying to "make money on line" and many who did become successful found ways to "build a business on line". Once people learn the difference between the two, some things will change...

One thing I don't agree with that a few people mentioned - the thought that anyone can do this. NOT everyone can do this. Hard work and determination will only get you so far.

Not everyone is cut out to do this and there's nothing wrong with that.

I think you hit the nail on the head. There is a huge difference between "making money online" and "building an online business". It takes a lot of time, several hours researching, finding your niche.

I was solely a freelancer working online for the last several years, and I survived, but it is not consistent, unless you make it that way. I have a background in SEO, link building, copy writing, Social Media, Online Marketing, Communications, graphic and web design. I no longer do web design, because the competition is to stiff and it takes a lot of hours to build a custom site.

So, now I use my online income as discretionary income and found a few companies that hire you as an employee to work from home. Finally, I have my full-time job where I work with people as a CSR. I love the work and I get to help others. Then I have a few companies who I consult for and work with online for extra income.

I believe that you should have something solid, that pays regularly when trying to make money online and build your business, your brand. Whether you sell products or a service or work with an Affiliate company. You should always have a back-up, which pays your bills. This way the work you do online is more enjoyable.

Hope this helps. Don't give up. You will find something that works for you.

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Randall Magwood

8 years ago

You're right Jeff, the more who quit, THANKS! More money for me, and more new customer acquisition opportunities since you abandoned them and your leads.

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aizaku

8 years ago

no, piss them off...

this is true for everything

if you cant put the work in then BYE

Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt

I don't mean to piss anyone off here, but a little dose of reality is good sometimes. Lots of people want to make money online. The trust is most never make a dime. Why? Because they give up and quit before they learn the skills.

It takes work. It takes skills. We can all learn, but most quit because it's not easy.

Well good. Let them quit. This means there's more buyers for those of us who do sell stuff online.

Again, I don't mean to seem down or harsh; but wake up. Did you really think it would be so quick and easy?

If you want it bad enough, you will do the work. You will find a way. And you will reap the riches.

Those who keep going, and don't quit, get the reward my friends.

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gvidass

8 years ago

Actually it's great that it's not easy. Lots of people start IM hoping to make some good and quick cash, but reality is different, because it's not quick or easy, so lots of them are going to quit as well. Someone have to succeed, while someone have to give up.

Not all people can be entrepreneurs, because someone has to do the dirty job as well...

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ivanadee

8 years ago

Yes. It's all about taking action and being patience. Also learn from mistakes. Dont give up if you fail at the first time. It's not a failure, it's just a feedback

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angelap999

8 years ago

This is why it's vital to work in a niche that you have strong interest in. There will be some bumps and obstacles, but you'll get passed them and they are there in order to cultivate understanding and to prepare you for something bigger.

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Brent Stangel

8 years ago

It's really not "difficult" but does require focus and persistence.

I could teach a really smart monkey to do what I do, but they would still have to do it to succeed.

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chippen2188

8 years ago

Something I have seen much of is that there are so many beginners that start with affiliate marketing since there is so much talk about it, myself included. I was told that doing affiliate marketing is where "the big money is".

I would suggest beginners to really think about what they should do online, there are so many ways to make money! In my case, it was online courses. I might not make tens of thousands (yet lol) but I really enjoy it and that's what I think it's the most important. If you do something you enjoy doing you will have an easier time getting through the hard parts. Don't do affiliate marketing just because everyone else is doing it!

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Jeff Burritt

Banned 8 years ago

I agree. Probably the easiest place to start is creating your own 'how to' product. What do you know? Write it down. Do a little research and add to what you've written. Hire a graphics guy to make it look pretty. Then sell it on the WF, or your own website. Or turn what you've written into a series of videos, and then sell it as a course. The point is people pay to have you teach them stuff. Sure, they could find this out themselves by searching the internet, but since you already put it together for them, it's easier for them to just pay you for the info.

Originally Posted by chippen2188

Something I have seen much of is that there are so many beginners that start with affiliate marketing since there is so much talk about it, myself included. I was told that doing affiliate marketing is where "the big money is".

I would suggest beginners to really think about what they should do online, there are so many ways to make money! In my case, it was online courses. I might not make tens of thousands (yet lol) but I really enjoy it and that's what I think it's the most important. If you do something you enjoy doing you will have an easier time getting through the hard parts. Don't do affiliate marketing just because everyone else is doing it!

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ramblinman

8 years ago

Got to agree, too many just give up when they don't make money straight away, there is so much to learn and so much to put into practice. Four things you need, you need to like what you are doing, you need to be willing to learn new things, you need to be patient and you need to take consistent action. It is a business, so work at it!

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William Waltham

8 years ago

There's always a learning curve when starting anything new. Too many people want instant cash, like a push-button way of getting money online. But, to make real money online and keep it coming in, you have to invest the time, energy, work, and everything else into building a legitimate online business. You also have to be patient while you learn, and roll with your inevitable mistakes. Most people who want to make money online aren't willing to take the time to learn, or work, or any of that. They lack the patience. And, that is why most people give it up too quickly, when, if they'd just treated it like a real business and took the time to learn, they could have been successful. I see it all the time.

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Alex July

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt

I don't mean to piss anyone off here, but a little dose of reality is good sometimes. Lots of people want to make money online. The trust is most never make a dime. Why? Because they give up and quit before they learn the skills.

It takes work. It takes skills. We can all learn, but most quit because it's not easy.

Well good. Let them quit. This means there's more buyers for those of us who do sell stuff online.

Again, I don't mean to seem down or harsh; but wake up. Did you really think it would be so quick and easy?

If you want it bad enough, you will do the work. You will find a way. And you will reap the riches.

Those who keep going, and don't quit, get the reward my friends.

There are no distinctions between the online and the offline world. Most new businesses fail during the first year. And more than 95% of them disappera within the next 5 years.
Why on the earth would all newbies succeed in online marketing?

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DIABL0

8 years ago

I remember reading some stats a couple years ago regarding people trying to make money online. It was something along the lines that 90% completely failed or fail to make more than $1000 per month.and 99% fail to make a living at it.

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ReubenAmos

8 years ago

Yeah, I needed to hear that Jeff. You have to get past that learning curve and stay working until you get to that point of freedom.

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angelazar7

8 years ago

Absolutely agree with Jeff. I think often traffic is a huge stumbling block for beginners, but we can't dismiss over complicating things, and of course, the shiny object syndrome.

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ksurivan

8 years ago

Agreed with OP! and here's something I learned. Find a problem a lot of people have and work on finding a solution to this problem within a specific niche. Create a product or service to solve the problem and market it to this target audience. Test your sales funnel, optimize it until profitability.

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8 years ago

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Chris-

8 years ago

Yes, some good points on both sides of the argument

Yes, it will typically take time to learn a bunch of things and make a good online business.

Making cash online as a JOB, can be done a lot more quickly . . . for example, join Fiverr, continually scan the "wanted" sections and reply to any request that you can do, with a custom-worded Gig (use their exact words) as quickly as you can. You'll make some cash in a few hours, doing that, and do it a few times and that will improve your reputation so you can get more sales etc. But it's still a JOB (something that, usually, cannot be outsourced nor sold).

For a real business, time is usually required to learn things and get experience etc. But that is certainly possible to do.

And yes, on the other side of this thread . . . the WF has changed a lot in the last 10 years. Still, I'm still learning things here, and that's what matters to me

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theoperator

8 years ago

Here's my formula, and I know this is taught at many top internet conferences:

YOU NEED:

1) A website, that includes everything including the payment processor ie: paypal or something simple
2) a well refined offer meeting a pressing need. needs to be razor targetted meeting the need with an amazing offer.
3) a product or service that meets that need. It doesn't have to be great until you know it's working. Then upgrade it later.
4) Traffic

You need those 4 ingredients. Fail to get any one of them right and you'll fail. But again there's probably a ton of easier ways, but I'm just saying if you wanna build a site/company online that you can grow and maybe one day sell.

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netmaster33

8 years ago

Of course you need to work hard, the only difference is that in "real life" you don't have an option to start from scratch and make big bucks in a couple of months. Well, in most cases you don't.
So, internet is always better for me than real life work.

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Frank Chisom

8 years ago

Very true pal...
Sticking around to learn and apply the skills does matter a great deal.

In fact, the reason it usually take that long to learn the skills and to start making money online is because most spend all their first few month chasing after the short-cuts that were never there.

When they finally wake up to reality and accept to do the work involved, they have already wasted so much time...

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8 years ago

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George Schwab 8 years ago

Originally Posted by SigmaTrace

Rightly said, Jeff.

Persistence is the key to success. Quitting is easy, moving on takes courage.

Well said as well,

Work and acquire and thou hast chained the wheel of Chance

Dream manfully and nobly and thy dreams shall be prophets

All speech is vain and empty unless it be accompanied by action
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jcmunoz

8 years ago

It is so true.

The problem is that people get into this industry for the wrong reasons.
They are tricked into thinking that it will be easy and that in a few months they will be millionaires.

In my opinion, there is obviously lots to learn; but the reason that most people fail is not because of not learning what they have to learn.

The problem is information overload. There is too much information online and some people do not know what path to take, so they are stuck in learning mode.

In order to be successful in this industry you have to:

1. Learn the basics
2. Choose your strategy (there are several but stick to 1-2 at first.)
3. Take action: Stick to those methods until you start generating a descent amount of leads per day.
4. Once the methods start to work you can expand your horizons and learn about more in the industry.

Focus on generating daily leads at first, that should be your only goal after learning the basics.

To your success,
JC

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Cookej2

8 years ago

I completely agree! Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was any online business. Unfortunately, most people see those who succeed with online marketing as an "over night success" but we know the truth!

Dig your well before you are thirsty my friends and sow, sow, sow! The benefits always come back to those who were willing to stick it through as a lifestyle.

Keep pushing forward and eventually it will all connect!

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Sapphire Louise

8 years ago

I agreed with you. But many ignorant people are not aware of that.

When they listen to the seminar salesperson who gave them the impression that making money is so easy, they paid up and then they realised they were lied to.

They thought there is a magic button. They had to pay so much to learn the sad truth.

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haboutaha

8 years ago

I agree with the OP. I'm what you call a NEWBIE. 3-4 weeks ago I knew absolutely NOTHING about digital marketing. Had no website, didn't know the difference between AdWords and AdSense, or how to even post anything on facebook. But I was determined. In the last few weeks I've spent literally hundreds of hours reading, learning, watching, experimenting, up late at night. I think I'm at a point of no return (which is a good thing). And most importantly, one has to have a longer term view. I might only be getting 500 visitors a day today, but I'm thinking where will I be in 6 months? maybe 5000? in a year? It's only up from here.

Good luck to everyone.

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Jeff Schuman

8 years ago

Skills, application, and sustained effort. College takes a 4 year degree. Trade schools take 18 months. Internet marketing is no different except you can trade money for time to get the knowledge you need. The make money 2 hours a day in your underwear doesn't work right away for most of us.

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Edwin Torres

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Schuman

Skills, application, and sustained effort. College takes a 4 year degree. Trade schools take 18 months. Internet marketing is no different except you can trade money for time to get the knowledge you need. The make money 2 hours a day in your underwear doesn't work right away for most of us.

110% agree! All these IM products promise you'll be a millionaire in 2 weeks and when you don't get those results you think somethings wrong with you.

That's why many people think IM doesn't work because they see all these income proof and crazy claims and feel like if they don't achieve that in their first month online they're a failure.

It takes years of studying, learning, applying for you to figure out what works and what doesn't.

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discrat

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Schuman

Skills, application, and sustained effort. College takes a 4 year degree. Trade schools take 18 months. Internet marketing is no different except you can trade money for time to get the knowledge you need. The make money 2 hours a day in your underwear doesn't work right away for most of us.

How about a jockstrap?? You know like an athlete getting prepared to take Action

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8 years ago

RE: "Many give up and quit before they learn the skills"

I think many quit because they don't see money for months. My advice is to make money online by being a freelancer first. You can ghostwrite, do web research, do seo tasks for marketing agencies, do VA jobs and etc. so you have a weekly income.

Then you can work on your online business (blog) which you have to realistically expect will take several months or over a year to make money. Look at it this way, even if you were building a traditional business, you can't expect to be profitable and earn back your investment within weeks!

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tomako

8 years ago

The irony is, the first time they hear about making money online many of them say;

"If it is that easy (in fact nobody says that, they somehow connect the word online to easy in their mind so that is their assumption) why all don't all people get rich." -> don't believe it is possible.

Then after trying a few weeks, they say "it is not impossible (because it is not that easy, their assumption again) to make money online".

You know the rest of the story, they quit before any serious effort.

Now here is the shocking truth, to make money online you should work too, at least till you convince people to give you their hard-earned money.

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yellowmedia

8 years ago

I think many quit not because of the difficulty but because they lack systems that would help them continue with their online business. These people would quit even if their business is traditional or offline.

If you are building a business, you need a schedule. You have to set an hour each day to work on your business. If you don't show up in a company you get fired--if you don't show up for your online business you don't get to have a business. If you don't produce/write anything "useful" nobody would care.

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David Rosa

8 years ago

Ya daaaaamn right. You gotta acquire the skills to help someone or something get a result.

Whether it be writing copy, generating leads, or building a site. Once you can do that WELL... then it's not nearly as hard after that.

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