$930 in Amazon affiliate income in Nov. after starting 4 months ago, here is what I've done...

14 years ago

Wow,,, It's a great step by step plan for starting newbies... hope you'll reach your goals with many sites..

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14 years ago

Eyetrap,

Thanks for that, it's very encouraging. When you say you buy productnamekeyword.com, would that be the actual trademarked product name such as garminnuvi265wt.com?

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14 years ago

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Eyetrap,

Thanks for that, it's very encouraging. When you say you buy productnamekeyword.com, would that be the actual trademarked product name such as garminnuvi265wt.com?

nuvi265wtKEYWORD.com...(example: nuvi265wtMOUNT.com)

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Originally Posted by michael_gourlay

When you say you buy productnamekeyword.com, would that be the actual trademarked product name such as garminnuvi265wt.com?

If so you may want to be VERY careful in doing this OP...can lead to trouble when you use product names and company names in your domain names.

Otherwise....

Congrats on the success, shows what taking action can do!
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  Thanks! Your money making story is one my favourites so far for these reasons:
  
  You explain how your time was limited - work and family constraints rather than bags of free time - and you still made this work.
  
  Intricate details of what you did without spilling the beans (obviously you don't want us to copy your exact product site that works so well)
  
  Your post creates hope for other people that Amazon can work and can be made to work on a shoestring (both time and money!)
  
  You have a site that makes $900 a month. In a month of two, you might be able to sell it for $9000. Let's say it was 100 hours work into this project - that ain't bad for your first project.
  
  I've wasted a lot of time and made a lot less money on things, (a very slow starter ) but you've been very successful compared to the average IM-er.
  
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14 years ago

What a great post. This really is the reason why this forum is so great. Keep up the good work!
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14 years ago

So much from Amazon?! Damn, it's great. Congrats dude.

Will bookmark this post, looks like really informative article.

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14 years ago

Thanks so much for the inspiring post. I've done something similar, only with 1 site and it's all targeting popular Christmas toys (it's a generic site name). I made about $7.00 last month from Amazon (better than the $0.40 I made the month before that). I'm seeing about 30 uniques per day. I started the site in mid-November and am posting about a 500 word review of a different toy each day. I then re-write that 500 word review and submit it to EZA. Once published on EZA I published the same exact article on GoArticles and Associated Content (seeing a decent amount of traffic from Associated Content). I than take that same article and publish it on free-press-release.com for $1.00 per article. I ping the site every week or so.

I'm slowly getting there. I'd like to top out December with a whopping $50 in sales, but we'll see. I got started way to late to really make any good money this Christmas. But, it's a learning curve and I hope to use what I learn this year and really bust it for next year!

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14 years ago

Excellent write-up.

This is pretty much what I've been doing as well. I'm also a newb and just published my first few sites within the last month.

I was very excited last week to see 7 sales in Amazon, even though I didn't make much money. It's very easy to bump your commission up above 4% for non-electronics. I have 3 or 4 sites that are pretty much completed. I have about 6 more that will be finished in the next week. I want to eventually have over 100 sites.

This site has taught me so much over the last few months it's unreal.

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14 years ago

... My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

Grow a pair

Nice writeup and congrats on your success. This is a good lesson for those with limited time... take action - use your time wisely.
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14 years ago

It's always about trends, and noticing and targetting them.

The fact that you capitalised on this is what brought you success, and will continue to do so in the far far future

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14 years ago

What a great story here. Congratz!

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14 years ago

that's very nice work from you, keep it up, just sacle it, eventually it will be 9300 per month

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  This really sounds like the wrong question to be asking. The theme is irrelevant. Don't get caught up in the details. Take frikkin' action.
  
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14 years ago

Here's a handy tip...

You've been building sites hoping they have what it takes to stick. To remove the hit and miss and the cost of testing put up a Hubpage and do some very minimal and quick linking (say maybe 5 bookmarking links).

Then wait 1 week and see.

Spend 1 week making as many hubpages for different keywords that you can for keywords you think you can rank for. This is cheap, quick and easy. Don't worry about making the hubpages great, just use them to test demand.

After 1-3 weeks, check back and see which hubpages rank, and which hubpages don't, and which ones are getting traffic. Now you know EXACTLY what niches are the easy picking and you can invest in those niches first.

Simples

This saves you the cost of countless domain names testing different niches, and also saves you lots of link building when the niche might just be too competitive.

Also also those hubpages paid you through up are in your control and you can earn a little from them, and also link to other relevant pages helping you send visitors and SE juice to where you want it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisTew

Here's a handy tip...

You've been building sites hoping they have what it takes to stick. To remove the hit and miss and the cost of testing put up a Hubpage and do some very minimal and quick linking (say maybe 5 bookmarking links).

Then wait 1 week and see.

Spend 1 week making as many hubpages for different keywords that you can for keywords you think you can rank for. This is cheap, quick and easy. Don't worry about making the hubpages great, just use them to test demand.

After 1-3 weeks, check back and see which hubpages rank, and which hubpages don't, and which ones are getting traffic. Now you know EXACTLY what niches are the easy picking and you can invest in those niches first.

Simples

This saves you the cost of countless domain names testing different niches, and also saves you lots of link building when the niche might just be too competitive.

Also also those hubpages paid you through up are in your control and you can earn a little from them, and also link to other relevant pages helping you send visitors and SE juice to where you want it.

Great advice! However, why not make it easier? Instead of writing a bunch of hubpages, etc; why not just find hubpages that are ALREADY ranking in google? Then just target those keywords. Whoops, just gave up one of my secrets!

Actually, your advice is excellent if you want to test out keywords that you are struggling to determine the competition level for. I just wanted to point out that you can find lots of keywords that already have hubpages ranking that you can quickly outrank.

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14 years ago

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Great advice! However, why not make it easier? Instead of writing a bunch of hubpages, etc; why not just find hubpages that are ALREADY ranking in google? Then just target those keywords. Whoops, just gave up one of my secrets!

Actually, your advice is excellent if you want to test out keywords that you are struggling to determine the competition level for. I just wanted to point out that you can find lots of keywords that already have hubpages ranking that you can quickly outrank.

Yeah you can do that for sure. There's a few potential problems...
- someone else is already targeting it, so competition *might* be higher. The easiest pickings are where nobody else is looking.
- you don't know what promo they have done for that hubpage.
- the age of the hubpage could be disrupting the results, a new hubpage might not rank so well.

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14 years ago

I love reading these success stories, especially when they are broken down into tasks that any newbie on here could follow.

Hope you see these sites and more bring you a TON of income in 2011.

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Congrats! Talk about a motivating post :-)
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eyetrap

I've learned a lot from this forum and wanted to share part of my journey over the last four months. I'm open to any advice too.

I realize $930 is not making anyone's panties wet, but with the limited time I have it's an ok start. This is from about 7 wordpress sites, however mainly from 1 site that is #1 in google for its keywords, the other 6 sites bounce around in the serps like crazy. Only SEO, no PPC/PPV. I started all the sites in August through early October.

// My Amazon income for the last 4 months:

Aug $161
Sept $241
Oct $516
Nov $930 (14% conversion)

// Info about me:

- I don't claim to be an expert or know any more than you, I'm a noob with 4 months experience learning a lot as I go. I'm simply telling you my experience

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I can't stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- I've been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if I'm lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

- I've taken off work about 6 days over the last 4 months from my full time job to work on my sites.

// Here is what I did on my first and main money site that is #1 in google for its keywords:

I searched for a product that I needed and I happen to find a successful site with a exact match keyword domain for a physical product (productnamekeyword.com), it was in google at #1. I thought I could do the same thing and use this site as a template, so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful site's back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

New keywords that didn't exist 2 months ago obviously have less competition. I was on the first page of google within 1 week and then bounced around in the top 6 for about 2-3 weeks

I posted about 2-3 blog posts per week for the first 4 weeks, each title of the posts keyword optimized and only about a paragraph with a picture or two. I simply went to google and typed in the keywords and hit the space bar and then I wrote down the top 4 keywords that auto generate before you hit enter and search, I used those for my blog post titles. I also used the blog posts that other successful similar product site had as a template.

I made a squidoo page and hub page for my product-name-keyword. My hub page has over 1,400 views and STILL bounces around from the top few spots on page 1 in google to page 2-3, I only posted around 3-5 links to these pages from my other free blog sites I created.

FYI: I've also seen other hub pages from other random people for products rank in the top 10 of the serps, the hub pages seem to really rank well for things, especially new keywords.

I sent about 2 articles to ezine and about two other article directories...so I didn't do much article marketing.

I setup google alerts for my product name and basically rewrote some of the news articles as blog posts on my site.

I made 1 youtube video with animoto.com

I made around 8 blogs on blogger, wordpress.com and similar sites in a link wheel with only 1 or 2 posts and youtube video. I've now read lots of mixed reviews about link wheels and I'm still not sure if they help or hurt but I made a small one for this site without any issues.

I searched for blogs in my niche and made around 10 quality comments on blogs with at least pr 1 and above. I used the seo quake firefox plugin to help find high pr blogs. (For some reason I feel like these helped, but that could just be the noob in me talking)

I posted probably 20-30ish social bookmarking posts over the first few weeks only to main $ site.

Submitted my site rss feed to less than 10 rss feed sites.

I mainly focused all of my effort on this one site for the first 3 or so weeks.

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

I focused on 2 main keywords 90% of the time with 2 others about 10-15% of the time.

I haven't added more than 10 back links in the last month. (I should and will add more soon) and my site has been rock solid #1 for at least the last 6-8 weeks

// More info about my site:

It's a tech product

Traffic has ranged over the last 2-3 months from 300 - 600 uniques per day (google keyword tool shows1,900 per month exact match)

Product cost on amazon is from $0.50 - $30

I sell 15-55 products per day from this site, average is around 30ish

I always get to the 7.5-8% commission rate each month, however some of the products are under the electronics category in amazon and max out at a whopping 4% commission.

I make half of the money from OTHER products people buy at amazon when they're buying one from my site.

I rewrite about 90% of the amazon text and put in my own 2 cents.

The site is laid out like a grid online store (a rough example: bustedtees.com) with blog posts at the bottom

// Tools I've used

Google keyword tool - exact match searches

Market samurai < Must have imo

The best article spinner (didn't use this on my #1 site above, just purchased 1 month ago)

// Wordpress plugins I use on all the sites

All in One SEO Pack
Fast Secure Contact Form
Google XML Sitemaps
Visitor Maps and Who's Online
easy privacy policy
WP No Category Base

// How to find products/niches

I use amazon best sellers list and look at the top sellers with the most reviews that are 4+ stars and have at least 1000 exact monthly searches.

Watch tech blogs for breaking product news
Search google for something I want/need

// My other 6 sites + my mistakes

These are more generic long term keyword sites (example: "car seats") rather than a short lived product specific site.

3 are laid out in a grid store, 3 are like a regular blog with a basic free template.

These 6 sites (each a separate niche) I started in sept/oct have been getting kicked square in the nuts by google, they will get to their top position in google which range from 1 to 5 for a couple/four days and then get kicked down to pages 5-10+ for about a week. I'm guessing they might be labeled "thin affiliate sites". I've been trying to figure out what my noob ass has done differently and here are a few things that I think might be the issue:

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didn't have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

- All but one has less original content then the #1 site in my example above.

- They all have less amount of back links, especially high pr back links.

- I only targeted 1 keyword with my anchor text to the home page.

- My backlinking was not as consistent because I was working on too many sites with the little time I have

- 3 were interlinked in the footer...I removed these a few weeks ago

// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com and a Christmas toy site

I tested out blog-blueprint.com for 1 month in late September. I found a hot Christmas toy I thought would be a big seller (I was right), Christmastoynamehq.com I setup a simple blog and posted some unique content about the toy that was probably about 10 posts with 1 to 2 paragraphs with lots of great pictures. I did around 20 social bookmarkings, setup 8 or so free blogger type sites in a link wheel, made about 4 youtube videos, a squidoo and hubpage (both made it to the top1-2 pages of serps) around 15 forum profiles and pounded it with short articles from blog-blueprint.com.

My site was on the the front page of google within 10-14 days and slowly rose to #4-5 for about 10 days in early October and I wanted to crush my competition so I continued with blog-blueprint.com....and then in mid October my site dropped and didn't show up at all in the serps. I thought to myself oh ha ha, that ole google dance got me, oh geez it will be back up in just a few days, that's what all the pros say. I kept building links with blog blueprint until late October and hitting it with a handful of social bookmarks and forum profiles...it's now December 5th...my site popup up at the #2 position for 2 days on November 15 &16 for the main keyword and lots of related keywords and has not been back seen since. I made $95 from the site in those two days (165ish visitors each day). I guess I tripped a "google filter".

Sure I've cried a little, but I learned a lot from this because I've been watching my competition....the top 10 in google all used article marketing and blasted out shoty articles to all the directories. Some of them had the articles written for them because I saw their ads on elance.com.

FYI: The #1 result for this keyword is currently and has been since September...a freaking hubpages.com/toyname, this page has not moved 1 spot since September. (They used lots of videos and articles as backlinks to the hubpage)

// Outsourcing
I need to find some back linkers...

// Some sites I've learned from
- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com < They earned...$19,000 in November 2010!!! :O from amazon!

- Warriorforum.com

- Flippa.com - Analyzing successful sites with profit

- viperchill.com

- I purchased Chris Guthrei's course (nicheprofitcourse.com)a couple months ago which gave me several great tips and answered a lot of questions I was not sure about, it also helped me to see someone that has had more success than me. He's a nice guy and helpful who made over $65k with Amazon last year.

// Summary
This was far longer than I planned on writing and I hope a few fellow noobs got something out of it. The biggest challenge for me was just doing something, I've wanted to make money online for years and I hardly did anything about it. I made excuses about not having anytime. I finally snapped in August, put down the vagisil and started DOING something. I hate getting up at 5am, but it's the only time I have to work, it's time to man up. I'm done working in a cube at a deadend job with a 0-3% raise and a $100 bonus biannually.

>> I have "12 posts" and can't send any direct messages. <<

Wow! For only having 4 months of experience you've definitely impressed me. I think it took me about 1 1/2- 2 years before I had that light bulb moment and started doing what you're doing right now. Way to go!!!

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14 years ago

Wow. They key element here is that it seems you have really put in the time and effort...and now it is paying off! Good job!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eyetrap

so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful site's back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

The key to your success, I believe, is noted in red above.

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14 years ago

As a very green newbie, this was amazingly encouraging. I'm in the process now of trying to learn how to do this. As mentioned, this is a well layed out post that does show some of the process of getting it setup and working. However for those of us that the whole world of IM is new to us, it's rather daunting and confusing. I'm going to use your post as a great reference document to study each part and learn what it means and how to do it.

If I was able to find $900 a month extra each month, that would make a world of difference for us. I'd be happy to have an extra $2-300 a month. <grin>

Thanks for sharing this with the forum. I appreciate the openness and information.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eyetrap

- I've been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if I'm lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

I remember those days. I remember making about $30 one month in IM when I had just started. Me and my wife were discussing our finances which were very tight at the time. I mentioned something along the lines of needing to spend more time on IM to increase what I was making. With exasperation she nearly shouted, "What the heck can we do with $30, we can't pay the mortgage with it?" Shortly after that IM started paying the mortgage.

Now she loves IM. I am home way more. I do more housework, watch the kids when she goes shopping, cook a few meals every week, and we just plain spend more time together. Now we talk about cutting back on time that we waste so that I can spend more time with IM.

My wife shops a lot, but she is very frugal. We both still watch what we spend very close. She usually pays the bills, and I keep track of where our money is. We also normally have money in the bank these days. Somehow we always have enough money to waste on clothes for her or toys for me.

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14 years ago

great job ,more than this...

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14 years ago

Do you have a specific way that you find products that are about to launch within 3-4 weeks?

Also do you use the product name when you buy a domain?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by davidjames42973

Do you have a specific way that you find products that are about to launch within 3-4 weeks?

Also do you use the product name when you buy a domain?

I read tech blogs (techcrunch, gizmodo, etc.), I have purchased a few domains that the product is months away from launching. I have 2 domains ranking #1 without any back links because the product is not out yet and there are hardly any searches yet...but I know there will be soon.

You can use an existing product as your template for keywords and traffic. For example, the game diablo 3 is coming out soon...go lookup diablo 2 in google keyword tool and see what people are searching for.

I've used the product name in a few domain names. I see this done all the time.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eyetrap

I've used the product name in a few domain names. I see this done all the time.

And the company can ask you to turn over everything and take over your site. I know this happened to someone, now the company runs the site. Its a risk you have to weigh.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eager2SEO

And the company can ask you to turn over everything and take over your site. I know this happened to someone, now the company runs the site. Its a risk you have to weigh.

Yes I do have websites that make me good money that I built when I first started out that have the name of the product in the URL. So far I haven't had a problem, but I haven't bought a domain with a product name for awhile now.

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Originally Posted by Eager2SEO

And the company can ask you to turn over everything and take over your site. I know this happened to someone, now the company runs the site. Its a risk you have to weigh.

Are you sure on this? I know the company can give you a cease and desist and take ownership of the domain, I've received one myself this Christmas. But I wasn't aware they had power over anything other than the domain?

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14 years ago

Congratulations, one very inspiring and uplifting post. I'm glad to see that you made it, and that you felt by sharing you could maybe help others do the same.
More marketers should think as you do.
Once again, way to go.

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14 years ago

congratulations dude, you made it... thanks for your story, its valuable for many people here who want to do it !!!!

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14 years ago

Dude - you have found a model that WORKS, congratulations!

I think that what you said up front is the most important stuff. Specifically, you hate your day job and your wife is making it hard to work on this gig on the side.

Here's what you need to do:
1) Hire someone to help you FULL TIME. Philippines is a great way to go. You are clearly making enough money to justify this and it is the only way to grow. You can focus on niche selection and "architecture" of your sites while you have a helper to write reviews, or at least format them and publish them if you write them. Plus he/she can handle all your backlinking / SEO stuff.

2) Discuss this with your wife to get an agreement on what is acceptable. She needs to understand how you feel about your day job and you need to agree on time together vs time on your business.

Outsourcing is your ONLY way to get more time and make more money.

Congrats again.

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14 years ago

Well I have reservations about using brand names and trademarked product names.

Do you use any such names in your domains or generic product names?

There is the risk of getting sued and/or losing your domain if you use trademarked product names.

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14 years ago

I don't think you can get sued. But I do think the copyright owner can come after you to take control of the domain.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone with more legal expertise. Are people taking any LEGAL risk in buying a domain with a copyrighted phrase like "nuvi"? Or is it simply BUSINESS risk. There is a huge difference, especially with technology products that fade away fast.

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Originally Posted by Chris Thompson

I don't think you can get sued. But I do think the copyright owner can come after you to take control of the domain.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone with more legal expertise. Are people taking any LEGAL risk in buying a domain with a copyrighted phrase like "nuvi"? Or is it simply BUSINESS risk. There is a huge difference, especially with technology products that fade away fast.

I have a friend who received a cease and desist letter from GoDaddy about one of his domains with the word FARM in it. I guess they thought he was targeting something to do with Farmville. (which he was of course!

) but c'mon! really?!?! ya know what I mean! It's like the rumor I heard about Facebook trying to trademark the word Face.

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Excellent Post!!! I really appreciated the dedication you had to make due with the little amount of time you had to do this. It is really motivating!

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Originally Posted by dremora

Well I have reservations about using brand names and trademarked product names.

Do you use any such names in your domians or generic product names?

There is the risk of getting sued and/or losing your domain if you use trademarked product names.

This is something that you definitely must consider. You are risking the chance of receiving the good ol' "cease and desist" letter from the company.

Personally I would avoid picking up a domain with a trademarked product name in it...

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I like what I see. I will try some of the methods myself.
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That's awesome that you are making that much from just 1 site!

You did a lot of hard work to get there - getting up early and working after your day job - those things are not easy to do and I imagine a lot of people fail because they dont want to give up that free time. Kudos to you for taking action and getting it done!

I hope your wife will be on board with your IM efforts after she see's that big paycheck from Amazon

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Wow! Thank you so much for sharing! I really struggle with Amazon. The commission is so low.

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This is certainly one of the best posts that I have come across in Warrior Forum in recent times. Even nicer to see it come from a newbie to the forum, and also not much experienced otherwise.

Keep up the great job, rinse and repeat. With the upcoming holidays, December should be a great month in Amazon, maybe the greatest month of the whole year.
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14 years ago

Good on you Eyetrap. Obviously you are limited for time, but ambitious to get this going. You are doing great! Lots of knowledge, well done!

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I've learned a lot from this forum and wanted to share part of my journey over the last four months. I'm open to any advice too.

I realize $930 is not making anyone's panties wet, but with the limited time I have it's an ok start. This is from about 7 wordpress sites, however mainly from 1 site that is #1 in google for its keywords, the other 6 sites bounce around in the serps like crazy. Only SEO, no PPC/PPV. I started all the sites in August through early October.

// My Amazon income for the last 4 months:

Aug $161
Sept $241
Oct $516
Nov $930 (14% conversion)

// Info about me:

- I don't claim to be an expert or know any more than you, I'm a noob with 4 months experience learning a lot as I go. I'm simply telling you my experience

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I can't stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- I've been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if I'm lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

- I've taken off work about 6 days over the last 4 months from my full time job to work on my sites.

// Here is what I did on my first and main money site that is #1 in google for its keywords:

I searched for a product that I needed and I happen to find a successful site with a exact match keyword domain for a physical product (productnamekeyword.com), it was in google at #1. I thought I could do the same thing and use this site as a template, so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful site's back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

New keywords that didn't exist 2 months ago obviously have less competition. I was on the first page of google within 1 week and then bounced around in the top 6 for about 2-3 weeks

I posted about 2-3 blog posts per week for the first 4 weeks, each title of the posts keyword optimized and only about a paragraph with a picture or two. I simply went to google and typed in the keywords and hit the space bar and then I wrote down the top 4 keywords that auto generate before you hit enter and search, I used those for my blog post titles. I also used the blog posts that other successful similar product site had as a template.

I made a squidoo page and hub page for my product-name-keyword. My hub page has over 1,400 views and STILL bounces around from the top few spots on page 1 in google to page 2-3, I only posted around 3-5 links to these pages from my other free blog sites I created.

FYI: I've also seen other hub pages from other random people for products rank in the top 10 of the serps, the hub pages seem to really rank well for things, especially new keywords.

I sent about 2 articles to ezine and about two other article directories...so I didn't do much article marketing.

I setup google alerts for my product name and basically rewrote some of the news articles as blog posts on my site.

I made 1 youtube video with animoto.com

I made around 8 blogs on blogger, wordpress.com and similar sites in a link wheel with only 1 or 2 posts and youtube video. I've now read lots of mixed reviews about link wheels and I'm still not sure if they help or hurt but I made a small one for this site without any issues.

I searched for blogs in my niche and made around 10 quality comments on blogs with at least pr 1 and above. I used the seo quake firefox plugin to help find high pr blogs. (For some reason I feel like these helped, but that could just be the noob in me talking)

I posted probably 20-30ish social bookmarking posts over the first few weeks only to main $ site.

Submitted my site rss feed to less than 10 rss feed sites.

I mainly focused all of my effort on this one site for the first 3 or so weeks.

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

I focused on 2 main keywords 90% of the time with 2 others about 10-15% of the time.

I haven't added more than 10 back links in the last month. (I should and will add more soon) and my site has been rock solid #1 for at least the last 6-8 weeks

// More info about my site:

It's a tech product

Traffic has ranged over the last 2-3 months from 300 - 600 uniques per day (google keyword tool shows1,900 per month exact match)

Product cost on amazon is from $0.50 - $30

I sell 15-55 products per day from this site, average is around 30ish

I always get to the 7.5-8% commission rate each month, however some of the products are under the electronics category in amazon and max out at a whopping 4% commission.

I make half of the money from OTHER products people buy at amazon when they're buying one from my site.

I rewrite about 90% of the amazon text and put in my own 2 cents.

The site is laid out like a grid online store (a rough example: bustedtees.com) with blog posts at the bottom

// Tools I've used

Google keyword tool - exact match searches

Market samurai < Must have imo

The best article spinner (didn't use this on my #1 site above, just purchased 1 month ago)

// Wordpress plugins I use on all the sites

All in One SEO Pack
Fast Secure Contact Form
Google XML Sitemaps
Visitor Maps and Who's Online
easy privacy policy
WP No Category Base

// How to find products/niches

I use amazon best sellers list and look at the top sellers with the most reviews that are 4+ stars and have at least 1000 exact monthly searches.

Watch tech blogs for breaking product news
Search google for something I want/need

// My other 6 sites + my mistakes

These are more generic long term keyword sites (example: "car seats") rather than a short lived product specific site.

3 are laid out in a grid store, 3 are like a regular blog with a basic free template.

These 6 sites (each a separate niche) I started in sept/oct have been getting kicked square in the nuts by google, they will get to their top position in google which range from 1 to 5 for a couple/four days and then get kicked down to pages 5-10+ for about a week. I'm guessing they might be labeled "thin affiliate sites". I've been trying to figure out what my noob ass has done differently and here are a few things that I think might be the issue:

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didn't have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

- All but one has less original content then the #1 site in my example above.

- They all have less amount of back links, especially high pr back links.

- I only targeted 1 keyword with my anchor text to the home page.

- My backlinking was not as consistent because I was working on too many sites with the little time I have

- 3 were interlinked in the footer...I removed these a few weeks ago

// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com and a Christmas toy site

I tested out blog-blueprint.com for 1 month in late September. I found a hot Christmas toy I thought would be a big seller (I was right), Christmastoynamehq.com I setup a simple blog and posted some unique content about the toy that was probably about 10 posts with 1 to 2 paragraphs with lots of great pictures. I did around 20 social bookmarkings, setup 8 or so free blogger type sites in a link wheel, made about 4 youtube videos, a squidoo and hubpage (both made it to the top1-2 pages of serps) around 15 forum profiles and pounded it with short articles from blog-blueprint.com.

My site was on the the front page of google within 10-14 days and slowly rose to #4-5 for about 10 days in early October and I wanted to crush my competition so I continued with blog-blueprint.com....and then in mid October my site dropped and didn't show up at all in the serps. I thought to myself oh ha ha, that ole google dance got me, oh geez it will be back up in just a few days, that's what all the pros say. I kept building links with blog blueprint until late October and hitting it with a handful of social bookmarks and forum profiles...it's now December 5th...my site popup up at the #2 position for 2 days on November 15 &16 for the main keyword and lots of related keywords and has not been back seen since. I made $95 from the site in those two days (165ish visitors each day). I guess I tripped a "google filter".

Sure I've cried a little, but I learned a lot from this because I've been watching my competition....the top 10 in google all used article marketing and blasted out shoty articles to all the directories. Some of them had the articles written for them because I saw their ads on elance.com.

FYI: The #1 result for this keyword is currently and has been since September...a freaking hubpages.com/toyname, this page has not moved 1 spot since September. (They used lots of videos and articles as backlinks to the hubpage)

// Outsourcing
I need to find some back linkers...

// Some sites I've learned from
- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com < They earned...$19,000 in November 2010!!! :O from amazon!

- Warriorforum.com

- Flippa.com - Analyzing successful sites with profit

- viperchill.com

- I purchased Chris Guthrei's course (nicheprofitcourse.com)a couple months ago which gave me several great tips and answered a lot of questions I was not sure about, it also helped me to see someone that has had more success than me. He's a nice guy and helpful who made over $65k with Amazon last year.

// Summary
This was far longer than I planned on writing and I hope a few fellow noobs got something out of it. The biggest challenge for me was just doing something, I've wanted to make money online for years and I hardly did anything about it. I made excuses about not having anytime. I finally snapped in August, put down the vagisil and started DOING something. I hate getting up at 5am, but it's the only time I have to work, it's time to man up. I'm done working in a cube at a deadend job with a 0-3% raise and a $100 bonus biannually.

>> I have "12 posts" and can't send any direct messages. <<

Thanks for the info here. I am a noob and I am into Amazon products as well. I started barely a month in Amazon and I already got sale. I used the product name as my keyword and in my domain name. I got my site at the first page with 2 keywords while in the most competitive keyword, I am sitting at no. 12. I am doing a lot of backlinking the past few days in the hope of pushing it the first page. Post like this serves as my inspiration.

On the other hand, I tried promoting those products from gurus and I never made a single centavo because it's too competitive. It's only in Amazon that I find hope to make my IM journey a success.

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14 years ago

Eyetrap, thank you for such a great post. I am really glad your making money online and now hopefully with your story a few more will be pushed to 'man up' and start earning online.

Congratulations.

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Well done, and thanks for such an informative post. I'm impressed with you reaching $930 in November after only starting four months ago. Your dedication is very inspirational.

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14 years ago

Congratulations! You have done very well in such a short period of time. You obviously are dedicated and focused so I'm sure you will soon be quitting that fulltime job you hate!

Maybe do something special with your wife with your November earnings.....it might help your cause!

Be sure to keep us posted on your ongoing success!

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Congrats Eyetrap... hopefully I would get there soon too !
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Thanks for the info. That is a great story. I am just starting Amazon also. Great post!
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14 years ago

Great story! I can relate to you, especially the part about not having much support from your wife. I am just starting the same journey and I hope to have similar success. Thank you for the inspiration.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by mleopold

Great story! I can relate to you, especially the part about not having much support from your wife. I am just starting the same journey and I hope to have similar success. Thank you for the inspiration.

Do not fear...I had a wife like that too.

And a family also...just have to stick to your guns.

I have now just bought a new house...paid off with my IM efforts and my wife gets any pair of shoes she wants. (yes yes...I know) but we have to enjoy ourselves right.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

Do not fear...I had a wife like that too.

And a family also...just have to stick to your guns.

I have now just bought a new house...paid off with my IM efforts and my wife gets any pair of shoes she wants. (yes yes...I know) but we have to enjoy ourselves right.

Man! What you said just reminded me when I first told my wife about IM, she told me to live in a reality. After I made few sales, she seemed changed her mind. Right now I'm not a full time IM yet, but she really wants me to grow my IM instead of doing my 9-5 day job.

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14 years ago

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Man! What you said just reminded me when I first told my wife about IM, she told me to live in a reality. After I made few sales, she seemed changed her mind. Right now I'm not a full time IM yet, but she really wants me to grow my IM instead of doing my 9-5 day job.

This is the typical scenario that most IMers face at home. Initially, you'll find that you have a disapproving spouse and relatives/friends who think IM is nothing but a glorified scam, but when you can finally start showing them some results, you won't believe how quickly the majority of them can be persuaded to change their opinions!

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14 years ago

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This is the typical scenario that most IMers face at home. Initially, you'll find that you have a disapproving spouse and relatives/friends who think IM is nothing but a glorified scam, but when you can finally start showing them some results, you won't believe how quickly the majority of them can be persuaded to change their opinions!

Yes but in the meantime, some of the posters to this thread need to give the girl a break. I hardly think it's 'demanding' and 'unappreciative' to be desperate for a break at the end of the day, and to want to spend some time with your husband. I don't know the full story, but it sounds like she has two children under 3 to look after all day. That means two mini humans making demands on 100% of your time and energy for 90% of the day, while you try to do everything else that needs to be done to keep your household running smoothly. It's exhausting!

I'm the Internet marketer in the family, and I only have one 15 month old and one on the way. I've only very recently put her in daycare while I went back to work on my business. Before that she ran me absolutely ragged when she was at home. I dreamt of the moment hubby walked through that door, so I had just a few wonderful, blissful moments of peace to myself while he took over. Still now in the evenings when she's in bed, I choose not to work and instead to make the most of this time to catch up with the person I have chosen to spend my life with.

The thing is, IM is a gamble, many fail, and when you have children everything changes. She will of course come round when she sees the success, but at the moment she just wants the best for her family. All I'm saying is, don't go name-calling until you have walked a mile in someone's shoes. That's all.

Inspiring post, and I wish you the best of luck. And do buy her something nice, she sounds like she deserves it

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14 years ago

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Yes but in the meantime, some of the posters to this thread need to give the girl a break. I hardly think it's 'demanding' and 'unappreciative' to be desperate for a break at the end of the day, and to want to spend some time with your husband. I don't know the full story, but it sounds like she has two children under 3 to look after all day. That means two mini humans making demands on 100% of your time and energy for 90% of the day, while you try to do everything else that needs to be done to keep your household running smoothly. It's exhausting!

I'm the Internet marketer in the family, and I only have one 15 month old and one on the way. I've only very recently put her in daycare while I went back to work on my business. Before that she ran me absolutely ragged when she was at home. I dreamt of the moment hubby walked through that door, so I had just a few wonderful, blissful moments of peace to myself while he took over. Still now in the evenings when she's in bed, I choose not to work and instead to make the most of this time to catch up with the person I have chosen to spend my life with.

The thing is, IM is a gamble, many fail, and when you have children everything changes. She will of course come round when she sees the success, but at the moment she just wants the best for her family. All I'm saying is, don't go name-calling until you have walked a mile in someone's shoes. That's all.

Inspiring post, and I wish you the best of luck. And do buy her something nice, she sounds like she deserves it

I agree with you. Those people from your family and friends do against you just want the best for the family. When you succeed they will not be jealous, they will be proud of you.

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Yes but in the meantime, some of the posters to this thread need to give the girl a break. I hardly think it's 'demanding' and 'unappreciative' to be desperate for a break at the end of the day, and to want to spend some time with your husband. I don't know the full story, but it sounds like she has two children under 3 to look after all day. That means two mini humans making demands on 100% of your time and energy for 90% of the day, while you try to do everything else that needs to be done to keep your household running smoothly. It's exhausting!

I'm the Internet marketer in the family, and I only have one 15 month old and one on the way. I've only very recently put her in daycare while I went back to work on my business. Before that she ran me absolutely ragged when she was at home. I dreamt of the moment hubby walked through that door, so I had just a few wonderful, blissful moments of peace to myself while he took over. Still now in the evenings when she's in bed, I choose not to work and instead to make the most of this time to catch up with the person I have chosen to spend my life with.

The thing is, IM is a gamble, many fail, and when you have children everything changes. She will of course come round when she sees the success, but at the moment she just wants the best for her family. All I'm saying is, don't go name-calling until you have walked a mile in someone's shoes. That's all.

Inspiring post, and I wish you the best of luck. And do buy her something nice, she sounds like she deserves it

I can symphatize with your situation and your efforts in trying to keep everything in order, with so much happening in the background. Of course some sort of a balance needs to be maintained, and I wasn't suggesting by any means that she abandon her family and forget about her obligations at home.

I was merely suggesting from my experience working with students in the past that they typically run into many obstacles at home, especially from the spouse. Some will be very vehement in their objections and almost go out of their way to prevent their spouses from doing anything IM related, calling it a waste of time and also being very disapproving of it.

When you're in such an environment like that, it takes a very strong person to persist in his or her IM efforts, and I was merely encouraging the person to resolutely maintain the status quo.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

Do not fear...I had a wife like that too.

And a family also...just have to stick to your guns.

I have now just bought a new house...paid off with my IM efforts and my wife gets any pair of shoes she wants. (yes yes...I know) but we have to enjoy ourselves right.

I keep thinking that once I can show her results ($$$$), she will come around. I have not been working at this for very long yet, but my desire and drive is at a high level.

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I keep thinking that once I can show her results ($$$$), she will come around. I have not been working at this for very long yet, but my desire and drive is at a high level.

Do as much as you can while your desire and drive are at this high level - this will allow you to accomplish as much as possible while still in the newbie phase of things.

You're still new - trust me when I say that you won't always feel this way!

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14 years ago

WOW ..by jove,..... Fantastic Good going!!!!!!!
I think you're on the right track but,
Lots of what your doing is pretty techie, to me anyway!!

I really think you should invest some of your profits into an outsource.
cost about $200 per month, maybe you can even work the price down.
I have a lead on a good, trustworthy, company in the Philippines.
You can find me thru my signature. which is my home site,
I have created a bunch of Photo Shop pictures linked to SOME of my Amazon Product blogs.

I am only up to about $400 per mth. Started last April so, about 8 mths ago
and have about 130+/- WP blogs up and working. I, not my outsourcer ;-), add average4/5 blogs a week.
I can put one up in about 45 minutes, Cookie Cutter type building. Been slacking off lately.. I am headed now to work the 'Face Book' method!!

I have been directing my energy, and time ;-) going at this by a different method.
choose Amazon 'product' to work, either general or specific product ..
Key word research, under 50 results, "All in Title", "search", 1500-6000+/- per mth.
No back links, articles etc.., just Amazon product dripped fed by a SPECIAL WP Plug in.

Started with .coms, then tried some .nets and come to find .info get ranked quickly on first
Google Page but, mostly only when searched with the complete www [key words addy], key words no spaces.
Some get indexed some do not, Index means, on the first 2 pages of Google. pg3,4,5,6,7,8 don't count. Nobody is going to go there.
Done some Free mass search engine submits as well.
Can't tell where the purchases come from, some of the products sold, I do not even have on any of my sites.
Must be the Amazon Up-Sell on product pages.

Anyway going to digest how you're working this!!! cause $300pm don't make it!! .......

Thank you for posting your story,
Sincerely, Stewart

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I have been directing my energy, and time ;-) going at this by a different method.
choose Amazon 'product' to work, either general or specific product ..
Key word research, under 50 results, "All in Title", "search", 1500-6000+/- per mth.
No back links, articles etc.., just Amazon product dripped fed by a SPECIAL WP Plug in.

What special WP plugin are you using?

I recently put a job up on Freelancer asking for 5 Amazon Affiliate site's to be made and the average bid is around $733 and that isn't even including the price of the domains. I didn't even ask for promotion of the site's to be done. One guy even said he'd charge $350 per site.

What do you think is a reasonable price to pay for 5 site's to be made?

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What special WP plugin are you using?

I recently put a job up on Freelancer asking for 5 Amazon Affiliate site's to be made and the average bid is around $733 and that isn't even including the price of the domains. I didn't even ask for promotion of the site's to be done. One guy even said he'd charge $350 per site.

What do you think is a reasonable price to pay for 5 site's to be made?

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Do you have domain hosting & all of your Amazon Ids?
After you research the nitch you want to advertise, choose the key words you want as your domains and buy the domain names, I will put up 5 sites for you @$25 a site using the same template as I use.
if you need any help in researching your nitches for key words of anything else, just tell me.
Check out some of my sites at my web site.
Email me thru my web site which is in my sig file
also, you can contact me thru skype: csghawaii

Just checked my Amazon aff site back office: 7am ..12-18 ..and this mth record shows
Products sold 107 Amazons collects $3,848.30 my cut to date. most at 6.5% $234.68
...... Just got enough $$ for my mth car payment ;-)

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Guys how awesome is it to see what happens when you pick a formula and actually take action and work at it?

Op, awesome job youre on your way to the top buddy, keep at it.
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First, thank you. This is the inspiration I needed. Second, I also have a wife that makes my "side businesses" difficult, several times she has stopped speaking to me because I was working on the computer for four or five hours straight. I just let her be mad, she will get over it, and when I can bring both of us home full time, she will not even be bothered by 6 hours a day in my office. Lastly, how do you search for a product prelaunch? Seems like a good system to set up, just curious how I could replicate(without competing of course)
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I have never done so much money with Amazon. In fact yet I had done nothing! Thanks for your use-full info. I'll try some.
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14 years ago

Thank you very much for sharing these informative and encouraging information with us. i am novice beginner of SEO and again thanking you for this post. i read it and share with my frnds also. your experience is valuable information for us so please share more with us near future.. thank you
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14 years ago

Congrats and all the best for all your ventures. You really hit the bulls eye mate. Your action plan is a proof that with hard work and perseverance anyone can reach their goals in Internet Marketing, of course with the right kind of know how. Keep it up Eyetrap.
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14 years ago

Hi
Very well done indeed, I take my hat off to you getting up at that time in the morning and still being a massive success the only way is up for you my man.

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14 years ago

Wow - thanks for the info - I've bookmarked the page and I'm heading over to Amazon to research.
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14 years ago

Thanks so much for this, and the link to "how to find a niche market"

I feel every day my IM powers are growing stronger
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14 years ago

Great job there, and thanks for sharing all the intricate details about how you got to this point. I think it's really admirable that you have managed to do this even with an unappreciative/demanding wife and only being able to put in 1-2 hours per day at most!

This just goes to show that when you want something badly enough, you'll find a way to do it somehow. To all the people complaining about not having enough time or motivation or money, this is a classic case study that will obliterate all your excuses. With only 1-2 hours per day and just using free traffic, Eyetrap was able to get to $900+ per month in only 4 months, and he only has 7 sites!

You did mention though that you hate your job with a passion, and this is what is really driving you to ultimate success with this internet venture of yours. You did not complain or falter when your first 6 sites didn't really go anywhere, and it looks like you have finally struck some gold with your 7th site! Most newbies would have given up after not seeing results with the first 1 or 2 sites, but you persevered and worked through it.

Now that you've discovered the power of exact match keyword domains, you should definitely start looking for additional ones to build more sites with. Follow the same formula that gave you results with your seventh site. I'd also recommend targeting products that are a little higher in price since amazon's commission rates are so low, and ideally you'd want to select products at the $100 price point or higher.

This is the plain unvarnished truth about internet marketing, and this is that you'll inevitably encounter failures especially in the beginning, and you need to want success badly enough to power past them. This is a really inspiring post, and most definitely required reading that will sober up every newbie with stars in their eyes!

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14 years ago

Just great work. I will investigate this immediately.

It is honestly interesting.

Thanks for sharing

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14 years ago

There have been WAY too many little secrets given away on this thread - can we stop now please, there goes my WSO!

(actually, YOU could write one based on this experience - no, seriously, you've got the outline for it in the OP!)

Just regarding keyword domain names, the nuvi example is a good one - Garmin do NOT chase these, I know because there is some dude or dudette out there churning out minisites for every product Garmin ever release, just Google any Garmin product name!

And here is another little trick - I am really not telling you what to do with this information, so you're on your own! - but you can do a search here: Chilling Effects Clearinghouse: Search the Database to see which companies habitually send out cease and desist notices. For example, select:

SENDER contains Garmin

and you get no results.

Try

SENDER contains Sony

...and you'll see what I mean

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by markowe

There have been WAY too many little secrets given away on this thread - can we stop now please, there goes my WSO!

(actually, YOU could write one based on this experience - no, seriously, you've got the outline for it in the OP!)

Just regarding keyword domain names, the nuvi example is a good one - Garmin do NOT chase these, I know because there is some dude or dudette out there churning out minisites for every product Garmin ever release, just Google any Garmin product name!

And here is another little trick - I am really not telling you what to do with this information, so you're on your own! - but you can do a search here: Chilling Effects Clearinghouse: Search the Database to see which companies habitually send out cease and desist notices. For example, select:

SENDER contains Garmin

and you get no results.

Try

SENDER contains Sony

...and you'll see what I mean

Thanks for sharing that database, I've always known certain companies to be very trigger-happy when it comes to trademark and copyright enforcement. Off of the top of my head, Apple, Sony and Nissan definitely come to mind!

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14 years ago

thanks markowe
this little tidbit could have turned into a huge tidbit without this info

Originally Posted by markowe

There have been WAY too many little secrets given away on this thread - can we stop now please, there goes my WSO!

(actually, YOU could write one based on this experience - no, seriously, you've got the outline for it in the OP!)

Just regarding keyword domain names, the nuvi example is a good one - Garmin do NOT chase these, I know because there is some dude or dudette out there churning out minisites for every product Garmin ever release, just Google any Garmin product name!

And here is another little trick - I am really not telling you what to do with this information, so you're on your own! - but you can do a search here: Chilling Effects Clearinghouse: Search the Database to see which companies habitually send out cease and desist notices. For example, select:

SENDER contains Garmin

and you get no results.

Try

SENDER contains Sony

...and you'll see what I mean

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14 years ago

SEO is the best you can do in the long run. Lots of work and patience required, but it pays off for a long time to go. Grats!

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14 years ago

Doing a product research is the main part of this amazon business. Finding right opportunity is bit tricky.

Nevertheless thanks for sharing.

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14 years ago

Outstanding work and thanks for sharing.
You've certainly earned your success.

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14 years ago

Wow, good job eyetrap! And thanks for sharing your story. What I love about Amazon is that it's such a trusted site online, that people have no problem spending their money on there.

I used to work in IT as well, so I feel your pain. Good luck, and hopefully you get out for good in the near future. Sounds like you're on the right track! =)

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14 years ago

That is a fantastic story for someone of just 4 months. Congratulations.

I've always been warned not to buy trademarked domains or exact product domain names yet this is clearly being done by many people and the database provided by Markowe was very interesting.

Does anyone one actually know if there's a blanket rule on this? or any links to other discussions on it.

I'd very much like to know what I can get away with here.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

That is a fantastic story for someone of just 4 months. Congratulations.

I've always been warned not to buy trademarked domains or exact product domain names yet this is clearly being done by many people and the database provided by Markowe was very interesting.

Does anyone one actually know if there's a blanket rule on this? or any links to other discussions on it.

I'd very much like to know what I can get away with here.

Again, not to be construed as legal advice, but I think you can get away with what you can get away with! Find the non-trigger-happy manufacturers and, well, I'll leave the rest to you. As for a blanket rule, as in a LAW, I must admit I am not sure. Domain names were a very early test case for trademark rights on the Internet, and the verdict came down pretty much on the side of the companies.

I believe in the US this whole issue is covered by this: ICANN | Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy

Which seems to boil down to whether a company can be bothered to take action or not. Seems companies like Garmin (just as an example of a laissez'faire company) feel their time can be better spent on product development and marketing, and that possibly lots of sites selling their products isn't such a bad thing either!

But having said all that, if in doubt, don't - I prefer not to.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by markowe

Again, not to be construed as legal advice, but I think you can get away with what you can get away with! Find the non-trigger-happy manufacturers and, well, I'll leave the rest to you. As for a blanket rule, as in a LAW, I must admit I am not sure. Domain names were a very early test case for trademark rights on the Internet, and the verdict came down pretty much on the side of the companies.

I believe in the US this whole issue is covered by this: ICANN | Uniform Domain-Name Dispute-Resolution Policy

Which seems to boil down to whether a company can be bothered to take action or not. Seems companies like Garmin (just as an example of a laissez'faire company)

Until they get new management that sees a cash cow of lawsuits out there.

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14 years ago

First of all, if you apply for the Amazon Associates program with a website which has a brand name or trademark (example: Kindle, XBox) as a part of the domain name, I think that your application will be rejected. I strongly suggest using generic product names rather than a specific brand or company name to avoid any potential issues.

Originally Posted by Richard Van

That is a fantastic story for someone of just 4 months. Congratulations.

I've always been warned not to buy trademarked domains or exact product domain names yet this is clearly being done by many people and the database provided by Markowe was very interesting.

Does anyone one actually know if there's a blanket rule on this? or any links to other discussions on it.

I'd very much like to know what I can get away with here.

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14 years ago

Very motivating post, thanks for sharing and congrats!

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14 years ago

Fine post!

Just about some details: Did you use 7 blogs or sites? Were the domains product names or brand names?

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14 years ago

Be very VERY careful as once you register domains that contains trademarks or product or brand names, once you do, you put yourself on thin ice.

Just because you might see others putting up domains with trademarked names, it doesn't make it legal to do the same.

Obviously exact match domains with tradmarked terms will rank fast but the tradeoff is the possibility of getting some nasty c&d letters (and phone calls) from corporate attorneys. I've talked to others who have been on the receiving end of those contacts...Not fun!

Then again, you may never run into any sort of legal snafu! Just be prepared!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Franklin

Be very VERY careful as once you register domains that contains trademarks or product or brand names, once you do, you put yourself on thin ice.

Just because you might see others putting up domains with trademarked names, it doesn't make it legal to do the same.

Obviously exact match domains with tradmarked terms will rank fast but the tradeoff is the possibility of getting some nasty c&d letters (and phone calls) from corporate attorneys. I've talked to others who have been on the receiving end of those contacts...Not fun!

Then again, you may never run into any sort of legal snafu! Just be prepared!

I agree with Michael here. I would hate to spend months getting my site to rank nice and high on the serps only to find that my domain has to be shut down for trademark reasons. Not saying this will happen but why risk it?

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14 years ago

well done man, i'll be taking some tips from you, thanks!!

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14 years ago

Wow good job and thanks for the share.

You are a great example of someone who can just jump in and do it. A lot of people here would be spending all their time "learning" but you are earning at the same time so congrats!

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14 years ago

Your information is helpful to me a newbie for 4 months. I will look seriously for keywords which i have neglected. Thanks again for the information you provided.

Congratulations. I think you are going to give a letter and spend more time with your loved ones.

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14 years ago

Eyetrap,

In your marketing concept the keywords play an important role.

some questions about your keyword choice:

You said, that you concentrated on 2 main keywords,
were they longtail ones or shorter, approximately how many searches globally/locally ( along Google keyword tool) and did you use brand name keywords?

Did the keywords include the product benefit?

How did you researched the competition?

Thanks!

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14 years ago

Hi Eyetrap,
May I ask a question about how you choose your exact match product domain ? if the keyword of the product contains brand such as "sony" ..etc , will you use it ?

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Originally Posted by runner

Eyetrap,

In your marketing concept the keywords play an important role.

some questions about your keyword choice:

You said, that you concentrated on 2 main keywords,
were they longtail ones or shorter, approximately how many searches globally/locally ( along Google keyword tool) and did you use brand name keywords?

Did the keywords include the product benefit?

How did you researched the competition?

Thanks!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by sickbaomei

Hi Eyetrap,
May I ask a question about how you choose your exact match product domain ? if the keyword of the product contains brand such as "sony" ..etc , will you use it ?

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Read the thread, just a few posts back - we've discussed this, and mentioned Sony specifically. The short answer though is

NO!

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14 years ago

This is awesome, congratulations on your success!

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14 years ago

I think this is great. Nice step by step plan (rather natural

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Thanks for posting this. Learned a lot from this.

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14 years ago

Nice that you are beginning to see some dividends with Amazon, it's always a great idea to find out what the competitor is doing to generate ideas

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14 years ago

I fail to see the problem with brand names.

If you have a brand name if your domain, presumably you are trying to sell that product for affiliate commission. Take for example I own a multi-million dollar company called Hoodyy (I don't)

If I saw a website called BUYHOODYY.COM or HOODYYREVIEWS.COM or similar and checked them out and they were PROMOTING my products, would I try and shut that Domain down?

NO!

Of course I bloody wouldn't. It's nonsensical. My advice is to get brand names in your domains, but only if you are planning on promoting their products. Perhaps some companies such as Sony take a different approach to this. But I think the majority of companies will let it slide..

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hoodyy

I fail to see the problem with brand names.

If you have a brand name if your domain, presumably you are trying to sell that product for affiliate commission. Take for example I own a multi-million dollar company called Hoodyy (I don't)

If I saw a website called BUYHOODYY.COM or HOODYYREVIEWS.COM or similar and checked them out and they were PROMOTING my products, would I try and shut that Domain down?

NO!

Of course I bloody wouldn't. It's nonsensical. My advice is to get brand names in your domains, but only if you are planning on promoting their products. Perhaps some companies such as Sony take a different approach to this. But I think the majority of companies will let it slide..

I'm very new to IM, but kind of with Hoody on this and wondering that if one approaches this in a certain way, the risk may still be there, but is not necessarily a big deal.

For example, if you did your research in the C&D database and found that no C&D's were submitted by a company who's products you're going to sell, then that is one less thing to worry about.

And then if they do send you a C&D, (probably many months later) then I guess you have to take your site down. Big deal. Some products have a short shelf life anyway, so perhaps you get in and get out, one way or the other regardless, but hopefully you've cashed in.

Of course, I am not a lawyer

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by brian_b18

I'm very new to IM, but kind of with Hoody on this and wondering that if one approaches this in a certain way, the risk may still be there, but is not necessarily a big deal.

For example, if you did your research in the C&D database and found that no C&D's were submitted by a company who's products you're going to sell, then that is one less thing to worry about.

And then if they do send you a C&D, (probably many months later) then I guess you have to take your site down. Big deal. Some products have a short shelf life anyway, so perhaps you get in and get out, one way or the other regardless, but hopefully you've cashed in.

Of course, I am not a lawyer

Just because it's not in the C&D database doesn't mean that a C&D will never be issued.

Some companies are very active in monitoring the net for variations of their trademarks being used in domains.

Many people do in fact disregard brands and trademarks in domain names and although I don't condone it, I will tell you that in most cases, what happens is that you have to shut your site down.

Hopefully, if it does happen, you will have earned a decent amount of sales before shutting down....Hopefully!

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Originally Posted by brian_b18

I'm very new to IM, but kind of with Hoody on this and wondering that if one approaches this in a certain way, the risk may still be there, but is not necessarily a big deal.

For example, if you did your research in the C&D database and found that no C&D's were submitted by a company who's products you're going to sell, then that is one less thing to worry about.

And then if they do send you a C&D, (probably many months later) then I guess you have to take your site down. Big deal. Some products have a short shelf life anyway, so perhaps you get in and get out, one way or the other regardless, but hopefully you've cashed in.

Of course, I am not a lawyer

A lower-risk approach you could take is to buy a domain name that has the model designation/number in it, but not the brand/manufacturer name. When you do this, you get a domain that is optimized with a "buyer" keyword, since people who are researching a particular model number are typically going to be fairly serious about purchasing it, and are not just tire kickers.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Hoodyy

I fail to see the problem with brand names.

If you have a brand name if your domain, presumably you are trying to sell that product for affiliate commission. Take for example I own a multi-million dollar company called Hoodyy (I don't)

If I saw a website called BUYHOODYY.COM or HOODYYREVIEWS.COM or similar and checked them out and they were PROMOTING my products, would I try and shut that Domain down?

NO!

Of course I bloody wouldn't. It's nonsensical. My advice is to get brand names in your domains, but only if you are planning on promoting their products. Perhaps some companies such as Sony take a different approach to this. But I think the majority of companies will let it slide..

Companies may not see it this way though. They may feel your blog isn't professional enough or giving off the right message.

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14 years ago

I once had a website with a trademarked name. I was doing great with Adsense, etc. until I received an email from their lawyer: take the site down or transfer it to them.

I took it down and got no credit from domain registry or webhosting from my prepayments!

Their lawyer did not threaten to sue or ask for royalties, maybe because they saw the registration was an individual and it could be more expensive to pursue a lawsuit and collection from one person.
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14 years ago

Thanks and congratulations - a lot achieved in less than an hour a day + a few days!

There are obviously noobs and noobs. A very few successful and the bulk of us struggling!!

The lessons for me were doing the research and analysis, using the tools in the internet and being involved in products you understand.

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14 years ago

I just started recently promoting amazon but haven't had much success but after reading your post I'm going to use some of your stratigies and see if I can't start making more with amazon thanks for the post.

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14 years ago

A very informative and inspirational post. Right now I wish I could just do the same if I get off my backside. Too much reading not enough action. After reading this thread I'll have a plan of action.

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14 years ago

Congrats, keep up the good work, you mentioned your wife isn't really interested, I'm sure she will be now that you're bringing in nearly an extra 1K per month, soon to increase I imagine.

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You've laid out a fantastic blueprint there that anyone could follow and make work.

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14 years ago

Thanks for sharing such an inspiring experience! Congratulations! We always try to find excuses not to do things we need to do and your story show just how determination and dedication are key to success! I salute you! Well done

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14 years ago

Thanks for that inspiring story. Very impressive for such a short period. It looks to me like you have almost doubled your income every month. I hope you are still on track for $1800-$2000 for this month or better. Let us know how you do and keep us inspired. Congratulations!
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14 years ago

Nice going bud!
Thanks for taking the time to jot down all this info. These are the kind of stories that keep us going.

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14 years ago

This is a great post. I appreciate the details your shared. I've been working on other things at the moment but I check my Amazon account and noticed a I sold a Keurig and a Dancing Mickey this month.

Please keep us updated and I wish you continued success!

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14 years ago

thanks a lot for this wonderful and informational post.. Congratulation on your sales..

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14 years ago

Thanks for the informative post. I have also noticed that Amazon can be quite slow to start off with but playing around with the ads on the page to suite the niche made a huge difference for me. If you are only using text links,thats a pretty amazing conversion rate. People usually tend to favour EPN but I have made some great money with Amazon. Loving december too so far.Best of luck and hope you can get some more time to forge ahead.
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14 years ago

Eyetrap mentions thats Market Samurai is a must have.
Can someone explain to me what this does and how this keyword tool is different to google keyword tool!?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by tedwood

Eyetrap mentions thats Market Samurai is a must have.
Can someone explain to me what this does and how this keyword tool is different to google keyword tool!?

In a nutshell, it speeds up the entire keyword research process when compared to using the Google Adwords Keyword Tool.
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eyetrap

I've learned a lot from this forum and wanted to share part of my journey over the last four months. I'm open to any advice too.

I realize $930 is not making anyone's panties wet, but with the limited time I have it's an ok start. This is from about 7 wordpress sites, however mainly from 1 site that is #1 in google for its keywords, the other 6 sites bounce around in the serps like crazy. Only SEO, no PPC/PPV. I started all the sites in August through early October.

// My Amazon income for the last 4 months:

Aug $161
Sept $241
Oct $516
Nov $930 (14% conversion)

// Info about me:

- I don't claim to be an expert or know any more than you, I'm a noob with 4 months experience learning a lot as I go. I'm simply telling you my experience

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I can't stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- I've been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if I'm lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

- I've taken off work about 6 days over the last 4 months from my full time job to work on my sites.

// Here is what I did on my first and main money site that is #1 in google for its keywords:

I searched for a product that I needed and I happen to find a successful site with a exact match keyword domain for a physical product (productnamekeyword.com), it was in google at #1. I thought I could do the same thing and use this site as a template, so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful site's back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

New keywords that didn't exist 2 months ago obviously have less competition. I was on the first page of google within 1 week and then bounced around in the top 6 for about 2-3 weeks

I posted about 2-3 blog posts per week for the first 4 weeks, each title of the posts keyword optimized and only about a paragraph with a picture or two. I simply went to google and typed in the keywords and hit the space bar and then I wrote down the top 4 keywords that auto generate before you hit enter and search, I used those for my blog post titles. I also used the blog posts that other successful similar product site had as a template.

I made a squidoo page and hub page for my product-name-keyword. My hub page has over 1,400 views and STILL bounces around from the top few spots on page 1 in google to page 2-3, I only posted around 3-5 links to these pages from my other free blog sites I created.

FYI: I've also seen other hub pages from other random people for products rank in the top 10 of the serps, the hub pages seem to really rank well for things, especially new keywords.

I sent about 2 articles to ezine and about two other article directories...so I didn't do much article marketing.

I setup google alerts for my product name and basically rewrote some of the news articles as blog posts on my site.

I made 1 youtube video with animoto.com

I made around 8 blogs on blogger, wordpress.com and similar sites in a link wheel with only 1 or 2 posts and youtube video. I've now read lots of mixed reviews about link wheels and I'm still not sure if they help or hurt but I made a small one for this site without any issues.

I searched for blogs in my niche and made around 10 quality comments on blogs with at least pr 1 and above. I used the seo quake firefox plugin to help find high pr blogs. (For some reason I feel like these helped, but that could just be the noob in me talking)

I posted probably 20-30ish social bookmarking posts over the first few weeks only to main $ site.

Submitted my site rss feed to less than 10 rss feed sites.

I mainly focused all of my effort on this one site for the first 3 or so weeks.

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

I focused on 2 main keywords 90% of the time with 2 others about 10-15% of the time.

I haven't added more than 10 back links in the last month. (I should and will add more soon) and my site has been rock solid #1 for at least the last 6-8 weeks

// More info about my site:

It's a tech product

Traffic has ranged over the last 2-3 months from 300 - 600 uniques per day (google keyword tool shows1,900 per month exact match)

Product cost on amazon is from $0.50 - $30

I sell 15-55 products per day from this site, average is around 30ish

I always get to the 7.5-8% commission rate each month, however some of the products are under the electronics category in amazon and max out at a whopping 4% commission.

I make half of the money from OTHER products people buy at amazon when they're buying one from my site.

I rewrite about 90% of the amazon text and put in my own 2 cents.

The site is laid out like a grid online store (a rough example: bustedtees.com) with blog posts at the bottom

// Tools I've used

Google keyword tool - exact match searches

Market samurai < Must have imo

The best article spinner (didn't use this on my #1 site above, just purchased 1 month ago)

// Wordpress plugins I use on all the sites

All in One SEO Pack
Fast Secure Contact Form
Google XML Sitemaps
Visitor Maps and Who's Online
easy privacy policy
WP No Category Base

// How to find products/niches

I use amazon best sellers list and look at the top sellers with the most reviews that are 4+ stars and have at least 1000 exact monthly searches.

Watch tech blogs for breaking product news
Search google for something I want/need

// My other 6 sites + my mistakes

These are more generic long term keyword sites (example: "car seats") rather than a short lived product specific site.

3 are laid out in a grid store, 3 are like a regular blog with a basic free template.

These 6 sites (each a separate niche) I started in sept/oct have been getting kicked square in the nuts by google, they will get to their top position in google which range from 1 to 5 for a couple/four days and then get kicked down to pages 5-10+ for about a week. I'm guessing they might be labeled "thin affiliate sites". I've been trying to figure out what my noob ass has done differently and here are a few things that I think might be the issue:

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didn't have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

- All but one has less original content then the #1 site in my example above.

- They all have less amount of back links, especially high pr back links.

- I only targeted 1 keyword with my anchor text to the home page.

- My backlinking was not as consistent because I was working on too many sites with the little time I have

- 3 were interlinked in the footer...I removed these a few weeks ago

// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com and a Christmas toy site

I tested out blog-blueprint.com for 1 month in late September. I found a hot Christmas toy I thought would be a big seller (I was right), Christmastoynamehq.com I setup a simple blog and posted some unique content about the toy that was probably about 10 posts with 1 to 2 paragraphs with lots of great pictures. I did around 20 social bookmarkings, setup 8 or so free blogger type sites in a link wheel, made about 4 youtube videos, a squidoo and hubpage (both made it to the top1-2 pages of serps) around 15 forum profiles and pounded it with short articles from blog-blueprint.com.

My site was on the the front page of google within 10-14 days and slowly rose to #4-5 for about 10 days in early October and I wanted to crush my competition so I continued with blog-blueprint.com....and then in mid October my site dropped and didn't show up at all in the serps. I thought to myself oh ha ha, that ole google dance got me, oh geez it will be back up in just a few days, that's what all the pros say. I kept building links with blog blueprint until late October and hitting it with a handful of social bookmarks and forum profiles...it's now December 5th...my site popup up at the #2 position for 2 days on November 15 &16 for the main keyword and lots of related keywords and has not been back seen since. I made $95 from the site in those two days (165ish visitors each day). I guess I tripped a "google filter".

Sure I've cried a little, but I learned a lot from this because I've been watching my competition....the top 10 in google all used article marketing and blasted out shoty articles to all the directories. Some of them had the articles written for them because I saw their ads on elance.com.

FYI: The #1 result for this keyword is currently and has been since September...a freaking hubpages.com/toyname, this page has not moved 1 spot since September. (They used lots of videos and articles as backlinks to the hubpage)

// Outsourcing
I need to find some back linkers...

// Some sites I've learned from
- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com < They earned...$19,000 in November 2010!!! :O from amazon!

- Warriorforum.com

- Flippa.com - Analyzing successful sites with profit

- viperchill.com

- I purchased Chris Guthrei's course (nicheprofitcourse.com)a couple months ago which gave me several great tips and answered a lot of questions I was not sure about, it also helped me to see someone that has had more success than me. He's a nice guy and helpful who made over $65k with Amazon last year.

// Summary
This was far longer than I planned on writing and I hope a few fellow noobs got something out of it. The biggest challenge for me was just doing something, I've wanted to make money online for years and I hardly did anything about it. I made excuses about not having anytime. I finally snapped in August, put down the vagisil and started DOING something. I hate getting up at 5am, but it's the only time I have to work, it's time to man up. I'm done working in a cube at a deadend job with a 0-3% raise and a $100 bonus biannually.

>> I have "12 posts" and can't send any direct messages. <<

Wow you are really inspiring.How many people in dead end jobs would do what you did?

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14 years ago

Fantastic information and so well explained.Very inspiring..

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14 years ago

A great start for a newbie. Keep going

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14 years ago

Hi.

I was hoping you could help me.I read about your internet program and was hoping you could help me in getting started with what you do.I think i understand your whole system but its things like 7 wordpress sites,i have no idea what that is or how to make one.Basically when it comes to using the internet im like a newborn.Now i can usually figure out what the process is,its basically getting there that i need help with and mostly because i dont understand the wording.If you could help me id certainly appreciate it.Ive spent money on buying internet businesses and so far i really havent been able to figure any of them out and thats because of the wording.Im hoping to get simple wording on everything i need to do to get up and running.I also would like to thank you for sharing your info free of charge with everyone.Right now i could really use something to help me out.Im self employed in building and ive had several things take place that has basically put me on the losing end of things and none of it is due to the economy,just personal issues.I dont have enough money right now to buy a sandwich and thats no lie.I have had to resort to living with my mom and mooching off from my brother as far as my internet goes.So if you could help get me started id certainly appreciate it.Again,i thank you

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14 years ago

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I was hoping you could help me.I read about your internet program and was hoping you could help me in getting started with what you do.I think i understand your whole system but its things like 7 wordpress sites,i have no idea what that is or how to make one.Basically when it comes to using the internet im like a newborn.Now i can usually figure out what the process is,its basically getting there that i need help with and mostly because i dont understand the wording.If you could help me id certainly appreciate it.Ive spent money on buying internet businesses and so far i really havent been able to figure any of them out and thats because of the wording.Im hoping to get simple wording on everything i need to do to get up and running.I also would like to thank you for sharing your info free of charge with everyone.Right now i could really use something to help me out.Im self employed in building and ive had several things take place that has basically put me on the losing end of things and none of it is due to the economy,just personal issues.I dont have enough money right now to buy a sandwich and thats no lie.I have had to resort to living with my mom and mooching off from my brother as far as my internet goes.So if you could help get me started id certainly appreciate it.Again,i thank you

Dude, sounds like you are a little bit overwhelmed and need to take a step back from all this. It's a normal reaction for anyone coming into Internet marketing for the first time. I am sure other people can point you in the right direction, but since you say you don't exactly have any money to invest, my advice is DON'T SPEND ANY - no matter the tempting offer you see around the Internet, for products promising to make you rich overnight (even if they are good products). The information you are after is all FREE out there somewhere - how to start with a site, how Wordpress works etc. Just hang loose a bit and spend a little time reading this forum, but don't get overwhelmed by all the moneymaking schemes people are involved in, just look at the general thread of discussion. One of those threads is CERTAINLY about how to use Wordpress etc. so go find some free tutorials and explanations about Wordpress. It's NOT rocket science, or we are all rocket scientists here

I will let others contribute, but would just add, if you are a little desperate, then check out this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...desperate.html - don't worry, no-one will try to sell you anything, just try to absorb some of what basic, grass-roots internet marketing is all about before you get into anything more advanced. It's a lot less technical, and difficult than you think..!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jman69

Hi.

I was hoping you could help me.I read about your internet program and was hoping you could help me in getting started with what you do.I think i understand your whole system but its things like 7 wordpress sites,i have no idea what that is or how to make one.Basically when it comes to using the internet im like a newborn.Now i can usually figure out what the process is,its basically getting there that i need help with and mostly because i dont understand the wording.If you could help me id certainly appreciate it.Ive spent money on buying internet businesses and so far i really havent been able to figure any of them out and thats because of the wording.Im hoping to get simple wording on everything i need to do to get up and running.I also would like to thank you for sharing your info free of charge with everyone.Right now i could really use something to help me out.Im self employed in building and ive had several things take place that has basically put me on the losing end of things and none of it is due to the economy,just personal issues.I dont have enough money right now to buy a sandwich and thats no lie.I have had to resort to living with my mom and mooching off from my brother as far as my internet goes.So if you could help get me started id certainly appreciate it.Again,i thank you

If you don't have any money to even buy a sandwich, I'd suggest keeping your credit card FAR away from your computer! Do not, under any circumstances, go looking for the latest magic pill that will instantly make you rich overnight.

There are many free methods which you can employ, and if you're starting out I think it's best you build that work ethic by offering IM services of some kind. Offering article writing services is one of the easiest free ways of getting started, in my opinion. While you may not be able to do that here (listing fee is $20), you could put up a free listing at Digital Point, where you should be able to earn at least $100 or so very quickly if you put some effort into it. Reinvest some of that into War Room membership and list your writing services here.

I have seen your post, and I know that you can write reasonably well. There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't offer article writing services here and elsewhere, so try to keep that internal objection at bay. (I find that to be the norm with many newbies who are merely looking for the easy way out.)

Paul

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

If you don't have any money to even buy a sandwich, I'd suggest keeping your credit card FAR away from your computer! Do not, under any circumstances, go looking for the latest magic pill that will instantly make you rich overnight.

There are many free methods which you can employ, and if you're starting out I think it's best you build that work ethic by offering IM services of some kind. Offering article writing services is one of the easiest free ways of getting started, in my opinion. While you may not be able to do that here (listing fee is $20), you could put up a free listing at Digital Point, where you should be able to earn at least $100 or so very quickly if you put some effort into it. Reinvest some of that into War Room membership and list your writing services here.

I have seen your post, and you can write reasonably well. There is absolutely no reason why you couldn't offer article writing services here and elsewhere, so try to keep that internal objection at bay (I find that to be the norm with many newbies who are merely looking for the easy way out).

Paul

Listen to what Paul is telling you here and leave your credit card far away from the PC because you will rack up debt and you will go into info overload mode and then quite frankly you are screwed. Trust me because I've been there and it does suck.

Focus on one thing, write the articles yourself, build the sites yourself etc. If you can write then yes offer your services here. Start with low prices, build a name for yourself, make some money and go from there.

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14 years ago

Great post and congratulations!! I made just over $27 so far this month and am excited... I would really love to be making more and I imagine that your income will continue to grow. Best of luck and thanks for sharing this with us

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14 years ago

Wow Eyetrap, what an inspirational story... a big thumbs up and thanks for your detailed sharing! Needless to say I've copied your post to study...
I started internet marketing in earnest about 8 months ago; finally got two of my sites ranking on page 1 on Google two days ago. (One is #1!) But I haven't made a sale yet...
Your post has refreshed my determination.
I used Google Sniper tactics mainly; never thought of creating a hub page... guess what I'll be doing over the next week!
Again, thank you so very much for sharing your tactics -that's generous.
That's the Warrior Forum way! Gawd I bless this place...
This is only my third post - don't want to post just for the sake of posting but heck I wish I could get to the 20 already...

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Thanks for providing such a detailed account of your process & the resources you used are very helpful! This will no doubt benefit many others!

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14 years ago

Good stuff and thanks for the post. I've been thinking about doing more Amazon affiliate sites, and you've inspired me to get started!

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14 years ago

Gr8 story and good lesson thanx

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You're such an inspiring person for writing your personal story to newbie like me =)

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14 years ago

Fantastic post, very inspiring. I'm in a very similar position and it's very reassuring to see someone tasting some success.

One of the biggest messages coming across on this forum is that if you find a formula that works for you then just repeat it.

You've got most of your income coming from one site so the next step would be to reproduce these same efforts on another site.

If you can run 2 sites in your spare time, you can run 20 sites full time, if you can run 20 sites by yourself you can run 50 sites with outsourcing.

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14 years ago

This is unbelievably encouraging as I started around the same time as you, in the same boat as far as family committments, and am working on building out a couple sites right now using Amazon and other affiliates. Keep it up, man

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14 years ago

I´ve been thinking about amazon for a while as the stuff on clickbank does not really interest me. This post is very inspiring and I have decided to bookmark your step by step guide and give it a go. Thanks for great information

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14 years ago

hi
Just amazing post...
you have described almost everything that every other WSO is selling right now...

I really admire your passion to keep trying... i tried in affiliate marketing but had no success... Your post tells me that there is still hope!!!

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14 years ago

Great example of hard work and applying the knoweledge that is freely available. Hard work is the key.
I recently had my forst C and D letter, had a to pull a site that was earning 150 per month. Ouch. Onwards - to other things.

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14 years ago

Great story! I suggest you to make new goal - $10,000/mo with the Amazon by using the same method.

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14 years ago

Great job work system x 5 and you have a nice business

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14 years ago

Wow, i think you actually kinda have given away a free wso! Thanks for this post! I'm sure alot of people will agree with me that you can actually package this stuff and sell it but since you have given it away for free, you are a saint

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14 years ago

what an inspiring story. congratulation dude...
i am a really newbie in internet marketing especially in affiliate. i started join the amazon associate about 6 months ago and now i had 15 sites live. but, unfortunately i am not as successful as you, till this day i only got about $300+.
wish you share your knowledge to be successful in amazon. regard....
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14 years ago

First post likes a $100 valued WSO

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14 years ago

Great thread and congrats to original poster!

Keep in mind that, November and December are the best months for almost all Amazon affiliates. In January the sales will drop.

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14 years ago

I'm on track for $800-$1,000 this month (December) too and I fully expect the sales to drop ~50% in January. However, I've managed to pinch out several new sites, started outsourcing and found a larger niche to focus on.

I think the key is that I know what it takes to find nice keywords and rank a site. Now it's just a matter of applying what I've learned and of course a lot of hard work.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Eyetrap

I'm on track for $800-$1,000 this month (December) too and I fully expect the sales to drop ~50% in January. However, I've managed to pinch out several new sites, started outsourcing and found a larger niche to focus on.

I think the key is that I know what it takes to find nice keywords and rank a site. Now it's just a matter of applying what I've learned and of course a lot of hard work.

Now that you seem to have gotten the hang of setting up these Amazon sites, it's great that you're thinking ahead and are outsourcing some parts of the process. This will really help you to ramp up your profits by a lot, so I'd advise setting aside some of your profits each month and reinvesting it into outsourcing and additional domains to scale it up quickly!

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14 years ago

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Great thread and congrats to original poster!

Keep in mind that, November and December are the best months for almost all Amazon affiliates. In January the sales will drop.

-Neo

That's true. People buy many items before Christmas as gifts.

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14 years ago

Congrats Eyetrap... Thats better than 99% of the people in this world will ever do.

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14 years ago

Way to go! great method for us all to learn from.

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14 years ago

I never knew that you could make that much through Amazon. I was thinking about ways to get deeper into affiliate marketing. And I realized that so many people are stuck on digital products not realizing the e-commerce is more than just e-books.

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14 years ago

Eyetrap,

Thanks for this great post! I love that you detailed so much for others to learn from. It's encouraging to see how you are doing all this work while "balancing" your life.

Keep going and good luck!

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14 years ago

Fantastic achievement. The key element here is that it seems you have really put in the time and effort...and now it is paying off! Very well done.

Good luck for 2011.

Anybody wishing to follow this strategy then please do be careful about "actual trademarked product" because you will be forced to take down your site. I have first hand experience of this issue.

Otherwise a fantastic strategy to make money online fast. I managed within 7 days!

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14 years ago

Posting here so I don't lose the thread.
Thanks, I will look into it. I have become an amazon affiliate.

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14 years ago

Hi EyeTrap,

What amazing sharing here with very detail step by step instruction of your mine ... I have to say congratulation to you guys.

I should be like you in the 2011. Wait me .... My question: do you have copyright issue with your domain name - you said take a domain with productnamekeyword.c0m?

Anyway, thank you to your detail sharing.

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14 years ago

Wonderful post! Thanks for sharing with us and congrats on your success.

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14 years ago

Thank you for posting this info.I have also created 7 Amazon sites and today i sold a Panasonic Led tv.Not much commission on electronics but it`s fun.I created all of my sites in the last 30 days and all of my sites are on Google page 1.

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14 years ago

EyeTrap,

As someone just starting out on Amazon trying to follow the Jan Roos model and having just made my first sales this past few days I have found your story extremely interesting and encouraging.

Thank you for sharing and I wish you greater success in the future.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by 101millionAds

I have also created 7 Amazon sites and today i sold a Panasonic Led tv.Not much commission on electronics but it`s fun.I created all of my sites in the last 30 days and all of my sites are on Google page 1.

Annette

Annette, Just checked out the sites in your sig.
Very nice!!
Yeah 4% electronics kina low .. but whatever!! ;-)
I see you have created " new Pages" with separate products.
I am going to start doing that as well, except,
I am going to put some hop links to ClickBank products on those.
Q..... have you sold any Amz. products from them?

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Originally Posted by 101millionAds

Thank you for posting this info.I have also created 7 Amazon sites and today i sold a Panasonic Led tv.Not much commission on electronics but it`s fun.I created all of my sites in the last 30 days and all of my sites are on Google page 1.

Annette

Annette, you're definitely on the right track there. Be patient and wait for your sites to mature and attract more traffic. Amazon sites are basically a numbers game, and the more you build, the more you'll ultimately earn - some sites will earn more and some will earn less, so the key is not to focus too much on the individual earnings of each site. Look at things from a more holistic point of view and you'll be fine.

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Great job. I took me almost two years to get there.

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Thanks for your case study. It's great to hear such inspiring stories.

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14 years ago

This is a great success story, excellent step by step guide and good luck to you.

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14 years ago

Hi - it is great sharing about your step to becoming great online marketer.

I need your sharing.

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14 years ago

It just shows the Power of Pure CONTENT in Google's eyes.

Moral of the story: Write, write and write! And just build links to and fro, external and internal.

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**// Update 1/4/2011\***

Month of December was even better for me. The holidays really cut down on my work time, I probably only got in around 15 hours and that was all broken up during the month. I'm expecting my income to drop over the next few months because I'm taking on 2 larger more generic keyword long term niches...and it's not Christma$ time. I'm also pinching out a few adsense niche blogs per month too.
-I started using textbroker.com a lot and really like them, super fast and the quality is good IMO.

-I launched an adsense site 6 weeks ago and on Dec 30 it hit #1 on google and has been making an average of $3 per day. The reason I'm there is because the competition is not optimized for the keywords and have low pr pages. I have 10 backlinks...searches look like this: 92,300 "keywords", 2,430 allintitle: "keywords". It's an exact match keyword.net It will probably bounce around, but I know it won't take many backlinks to make it stick. Seems a little too easy.

- I've also had the problem lately of finding too many niches I want to own. Looking for niches/keywords is like digging for gold and it's addictive. It's a daily fight for me not to waste time looking for more when I've got plenty of good ones to work on.

Here is a keyword I had my eye on but decided I have too much to do.
kinect games

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I've learned a lot from this forum and wanted to share part of my journey over the last four months. I'm open to any advice too.

I realize $930 is not making anyone's panties wet, but with the limited time I have it's an ok start. This is from about 7 wordpress sites, however mainly from 1 site that is #1 in google for its keywords, the other 6 sites bounce around in the serps like crazy. Only SEO, no PPC/PPV. I started all the sites in August through early October.

// My Amazon income for the last 4 months:

Aug $161
Sept $241
Oct $516
Nov $930 (14% conversion)

// Info about me:

- I don't claim to be an expert or know any more than you, I'm a noob with 4 months experience learning a lot as I go. I'm simply telling you my experience

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I can't stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- I've been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if I'm lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

- I've taken off work about 6 days over the last 4 months from my full time job to work on my sites.

// Here is what I did on my first and main money site that is #1 in google for its keywords:

I searched for a product that I needed and I happen to find a successful site with a exact match keyword domain for a physical product (productnamekeyword.com), it was in google at #1. I thought I could do the same thing and use this site as a template, so I simply found a very similar product from another company that was launching in 3-4 weeks and I purchased the exact match keyword domain for that new product (productnamekeyword.com). I then check the other successful site's back links in yahoo site explorer (he had around 300) and posted to the same sites as many as I could over the first few weeks of launching my site. (fYI: I found a lot of them were from forum profiles)

New keywords that didn't exist 2 months ago obviously have less competition. I was on the first page of google within 1 week and then bounced around in the top 6 for about 2-3 weeks

I posted about 2-3 blog posts per week for the first 4 weeks, each title of the posts keyword optimized and only about a paragraph with a picture or two. I simply went to google and typed in the keywords and hit the space bar and then I wrote down the top 4 keywords that auto generate before you hit enter and search, I used those for my blog post titles. I also used the blog posts that other successful similar product site had as a template.

I made a squidoo page and hub page for my product-name-keyword. My hub page has over 1,400 views and STILL bounces around from the top few spots on page 1 in google to page 2-3, I only posted around 3-5 links to these pages from my other free blog sites I created.

FYI: I've also seen other hub pages from other random people for products rank in the top 10 of the serps, the hub pages seem to really rank well for things, especially new keywords.

I sent about 2 articles to ezine and about two other article directories...so I didn't do much article marketing.

I setup google alerts for my product name and basically rewrote some of the news articles as blog posts on my site.

I made 1 youtube video with animoto.com

I made around 8 blogs on blogger, wordpress.com and similar sites in a link wheel with only 1 or 2 posts and youtube video. I've now read lots of mixed reviews about link wheels and I'm still not sure if they help or hurt but I made a small one for this site without any issues.

I searched for blogs in my niche and made around 10 quality comments on blogs with at least pr 1 and above. I used the seo quake firefox plugin to help find high pr blogs. (For some reason I feel like these helped, but that could just be the noob in me talking)

I posted probably 20-30ish social bookmarking posts over the first few weeks only to main $ site.

Submitted my site rss feed to less than 10 rss feed sites.

I mainly focused all of my effort on this one site for the first 3 or so weeks.

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

I focused on 2 main keywords 90% of the time with 2 others about 10-15% of the time.

I haven't added more than 10 back links in the last month. (I should and will add more soon) and my site has been rock solid #1 for at least the last 6-8 weeks

// More info about my site:

It's a tech product

Traffic has ranged over the last 2-3 months from 300 - 600 uniques per day (google keyword tool shows1,900 per month exact match)

Product cost on amazon is from $0.50 - $30

I sell 15-55 products per day from this site, average is around 30ish

I always get to the 7.5-8% commission rate each month, however some of the products are under the electronics category in amazon and max out at a whopping 4% commission.

I make half of the money from OTHER products people buy at amazon when they're buying one from my site.

I rewrite about 90% of the amazon text and put in my own 2 cents.

The site is laid out like a grid online store (a rough example: bustedtees.com) with blog posts at the bottom

// Tools I've used

Google keyword tool - exact match searches

Market samurai < Must have imo

The best article spinner (didn't use this on my #1 site above, just purchased 1 month ago)

// Wordpress plugins I use on all the sites

All in One SEO Pack
Fast Secure Contact Form
Google XML Sitemaps
Visitor Maps and Who's Online
easy privacy policy
WP No Category Base

// How to find products/niches

I use amazon best sellers list and look at the top sellers with the most reviews that are 4+ stars and have at least 1000 exact monthly searches.

Watch tech blogs for breaking product news

Search google for something I want/need

This post has some great info: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...e-markets.html

// My other 6 sites + my mistakes

These are more generic long term keyword sites (example: "car seats") rather than a short lived product specific site.

3 are laid out in a grid store, 3 are like a regular blog with a basic free template.

These 6 sites (each a separate niche) I started in sept/oct have been getting kicked square in the nuts by google, they will get to their top position in google which range from 1 to 5 for a couple/four days and then get kicked down to pages 5-10+ for about a week. I'm guessing they might be labeled "thin affiliate sites". I've been trying to figure out what my noob ass has done differently and here are a few things that I think might be the issue:

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didn't have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

- All but one has less original content then the #1 site in my example above.

- They all have less amount of back links, especially high pr back links.

- I only targeted 1 keyword with my anchor text to the home page.

- My backlinking was not as consistent because I was working on too many sites with the little time I have

- 3 were interlinked in the footer...I removed these a few weeks ago

// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com and a Christmas toy site

I tested out blog-blueprint.com for 1 month in late September. I found a hot Christmas toy I thought would be a big seller (I was right), Christmastoynamehq.com I setup a simple blog and posted some unique content about the toy that was probably about 10 posts with 1 to 2 paragraphs with lots of great pictures. I did around 20 social bookmarkings, setup 8 or so free blogger type sites in a link wheel, made about 4 youtube videos, a squidoo and hubpage (both made it to the top1-2 pages of serps) around 15 forum profiles and pounded it with short articles from blog-blueprint.com.

My site was on the the front page of google within 10-14 days and slowly rose to #4-5 for about 10 days in early October and I wanted to crush my competition so I continued with blog-blueprint.com....and then in mid October my site dropped and didn't show up at all in the serps. I thought to myself oh ha ha, that ole google dance got me, oh geez it will be back up in just a few days, that's what all the pros say. I kept building links with blog blueprint until late October and hitting it with a handful of social bookmarks and forum profiles...it's now December 5th...my site popup up at the #2 position for 2 days on November 15 &16 for the main keyword and lots of related keywords and has not been back seen since. I made $95 from the site in those two days (165ish visitors each day). I guess I tripped a "google filter".

Sure I've cried a little, but I learned a lot from this because I've been watching my competition....the top 10 in google all used article marketing and blasted out shoty articles to all the directories. Some of them had the articles written for them because I saw their ads on elance.com.

FYI: The #1 result for this keyword is currently and has been since September...a freaking hubpages.com/toyname, this page has not moved 1 spot since September. (They used lots of videos and articles as backlinks to the hubpage)

// Outsourcing
I need to find some back linkers...

// Some sites I've learned from
- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com < They earned...$19,000 in November 2010!!! :O from amazon!

- Warriorforum.com

- Flippa.com - Analyzing successful sites with profit

- viperchill.com

- I purchased Chris Guthrei's course (nicheprofitcourse.com)a couple months ago which gave me several great tips and answered a lot of questions I was not sure about, it also helped me to see someone that has had more success than me. He's a nice guy and helpful who made over $65k with Amazon last year.

// Summary
This was far longer than I planned on writing and I hope a few fellow noobs got something out of it. The biggest challenge for me was just doing something, I've wanted to make money online for years and I hardly did anything about it. I made excuses about not having anytime. I finally snapped in August, put down the vagisil and started DOING something. I hate getting up at 5am, but it's the only time I have to work, it's time to man up. I'm done working in a cube at a deadend job with a 0-3% raise and a $100 bonus biannually.

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14 years ago

Nice post.
Makes me wonder whether writing is all I should be doing!!!
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14 years ago

This is really something. Its nice that you managed to put on something worthwhile even with your busy schedule. For me you are not a noob, you are an awesome inspiration! Glad that you made your way through the internet marketing world.

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14 years ago

Dude, this thread is really inspirational, I have just embarked on a amazon journey myself. I started early this year and have 2 sites online.

I decided to build 1 site pr week. I have a system that allows me to work with other IM related stuff during the week, I like the idea of having multiple streams of income.

I am outsourcing backlinking and the product reviews, the rest I do manually.

What I like about building amazon sites is that it doesn't require any technical skills or coding, and it's really easy to manage, set and forget.

So, basically, once you get the hang of it, it becomes a part of what I like to call "the daily grind".

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14 years ago

Good job man ! 930$ it's a good amount . I hope you will earn much more with amazon reviews . Good luck!

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14 years ago

Eyetrap,

Congrats on your excellent progress! Your upward trend in your sales stats is proof positive that you're doing the right things.

I noticed that you mention your price range was up to $30....Have you considered looking at higher price points? Say, $80 and up?

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14 years ago

High 5! You know I see posts where people downplay their earnings that are not in the thousands and you know what? I think it's encouraging to read about making a few hundred a month just as much as making a few thousand a month. Many newbies would be thrilled to earn $200 or $500 a month.

I was extatic when I earned my first sale on my first affiliate site.

Thanks for sharing, I think this is very inspiring and will help many people get motivated to jump in and try it.

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14 years ago

I'm going to call you the actionman, well done, and any newbie starting up, this is the type of story that you should follow, real story, real income, no bs or guru lies, i wish you all the best and keep up the good work

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14 years ago

Man that is one hell of a plan, I have no doubt that you eventually will be successful - good luck!

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14 years ago

EYETRAP,

Your original post on this thread is a software product you need to package in pdf form and sell as a wso.

You lay out step by step everything you do.

You gave so much to the forum, thanks for giving.

Now take what you posted, brush it off, clean it up, and make a "Zero to Job-Quitting in 90 Days With NO Experience" WSO.

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14 years ago

Okay. Please let me add my "2 cents". Clickbank already tells you what products are selling (with their gravity score). Just grab a few with a score of at least 100 and include them on your site. Since they cover a lot of niches something is bound to fit.

Good Luck to You!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by CASNET

Okay. Please let me add my "2 cents". Clickbank already tells you what products are selling (with their gravity score). Just grab a few with a score of at least 100 and include them on your site. Since they cover a lot of niches something is bound to fit.

Good Luck to You!

With all due respect, your "2 cents" are very off. That is not what Gravity on CB is. Far from it.

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14 years ago

This is what I mean when I say there is enough great information on this forum for FREE that people don't need to go out and buy every next 'big' thing.

To the OP: Congrats. That's called hard work and dedication.

You can also try to do tests on some non-amazon products which pay higher, and see if you can't make some more money from this. Though in my experience one reason Amazon affiliate sites have decent conversions (albeit at a low commission) is because just about the entire Internet trusts Amazon and don't mind pulling out their credit card while they're on it. It's not like that with 'other' sites such as Clickbank, even though everyone uses the same SSL technology. :rolleyes:

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14 years ago

Thats still quite a bit of extra money, regardless of what other people say

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14 years ago

It's a slog to make money with Amazon-based sites but can be a great way to build up passive income, bit by bit.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by redicelander

It's a slog to make money with Amazon-based sites but can be a great way to build up passive income, bit by bit.

This is true, the money that you generate via Amazon-based sites won't be fast or a large sum, at least initially, but the appeal is that you're setting them up to generate passive income for a long time to come.
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14 years ago

Impressive! At 4 months in I was still swiping my credit card. It's good to see people make progress, despite all the "BS" product launches.

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14 years ago

Great post , Thank you very much Eyetrap.

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14 years ago

All I can say is CONGRATS! And thanks for sharing that. The bottom line is that if we stick to ONE area of focus, we can make lots of money!

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14 years ago

Excellent stuff dude! I've never ventured into the Amazon affiliate arena (alliteration!) but this encourages (and inspires) me to!

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14 years ago

- Smartpassiveincome.com

- Affiliateblogonline.com

These website are awesome.

And AffiliateBlogOnline is great! They're making tons of money! And as you said they FOCUS on 1 website!

I think it's really important!

Thanks for sharing your experience!

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14 years ago

// An experiment with blog-blueprint.com

I read a post by Pat Flynn (SmartPassiveIncome) about his strategy for backlinking. He recommends Blog Blueprint.

And you notice it also... Just wondering if it's worth it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by stanislavlem

I read a post by Pat Flynn (SmartPassiveIncome) about his strategy for backlinking. He recommends Blog Blueprint.

And you notice it also... Just wondering if it's worth it.

I'm not sure about blog blueprint. Something made some of my sites bounce around in the SERPS like crazy and those sites just in the last week (mid Jan.) started to settle down and are back in the top few spots on Google. The only thing I did different with these sites is I sent links to them from blog blueprint.

Also, none of the back links are showing any longer in yahoo explorer from any of the blog blueprint sites.

Personally I'm not going to use blog blueprint again and I'm focusing on somewhat higher quality links from article directories, quality blog posts, youtube videos, free blog sites and forum profiles.

**I finally got paid yesterday for Novembers Amazon commissions

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14 years ago

- I have a wife and 2 kids under the age of 3

- I have a full time job I can't stand/hate with a passion (tech support)

- I've been getting up at 5-5:30am almost every day so I can squeeze in 45min -1hr of work before my full time job and then I get 1hr of work after my fulltime job if I'm lucky. My wife is not making it easy for me and not interested in letting me work at night.

I'm just amazed by you! You're man!

This thread is inspirational for me!

Thank you!

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14 years ago

Wow! You and I sound identical, except I have no kids.

You will notice a pretty sizable drop in Amazon income after Christmas, especially for hot products aimed at kids.

Keep up the good work! You sound well-focused.

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14 years ago

Hey Eyetrap,

Thanks for this thread. It's not only motivational, but has some great tidbits of information! I've kept your thread up for reference over the past week!

Can anyone else comment on the thought of NOT putting up any affiliate links for the first 3-4 weeks of the website's existence?

I never heard this before, but for some reason that one line stuck with me. That one major difference is Eyetrap did not put up any affiliate links on his #1 money site the first month. Just posted good content, and built backlinks.

I wonder if there's any advantage with search engines to rank a site higher that doesn't have a bunch of affiliate links in the beginning. Maybe Google et. al. sees that as more "legitimate" blog of good content when there isn't a bunch of "buy-me-please" affiliate links all over the site.

I'm in the middle of building out two new websites, so this could be a good test to see how it works out. Then once it starts getting more organic traffic, slowly start adding very relevant aff links to make money.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jaxpot

Can anyone else comment on the thought of NOT putting up any affiliate links for the first 3-4 weeks of the website's existence?

I have always followed the rule, never put affiliate links on a web page until that page is indexed.

Remember google ranks pages and not sites, so not putting up any affiliate links site wide won't make a difference, when google first visits the page make sure its full of relevant and unique content, once its actually indexed (make sure its indexed and not just crawled) insert your affiliate links.

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14 years ago

Thanks for the post! I came here looking for a product detailing how to make money with Amazon and eBay products and I came across this post. I see now that what I too need is to just 'DO IT' even if it's wrong!

Do you realize that what you have shared here is an actual blueprint that someone can follow? Thanks for that.

Good luck with all your continued endeavors, swtp43

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14 years ago

Wow!!! Eyetrap, this is great information. You could probably package everything you put in this post and sell it! LOL

Thanks for sharing your experience and being so detailed with your explanation. This is extremely helpful for people just getting started.

Keep up the great work.

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14 years ago

Reading a post like this is like finding a piece of gold after you've convinced yourself that you're clueless and will stay clueless.

Thank you for sharing your online en-devours with us.

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14 years ago

This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you so much.

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14 years ago

Thanks for sharing - a truly inspirational post. Just goes to show the power of motivation when you have a job you hate

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14 years ago

- I posted amazon affiliate links as soon as the sites started on all 6. My example site above in #1 didn't have any affiliate links until about 3-4 weeks after it launched.

Can someone clarify if this is important not to put affiliate links on straight away? Does it effect how quickly your site gets indexed?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by cooler1

Can someone clarify if this is important not to put affiliate links on straight away? Does it effect how quickly your site gets indexed?

I've actually found that you can still get indexed right away after putting in your affiliate links. What really accelerates the process is using Google Analytics and Google Webmaster which will get your site acknowledged and indexed by Google.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Franklin

I've actually found that you can still get indexed right away after putting in your affiliate links. What really accelerates the process is using Google Analytics and Google Webmaster which will get your site acknowledged and indexed by Google.

I index my websites using this Profit Instruments: Quick Index Tool

It only takes a couple of hours before my brand new websites get indexed. It is pretty amazing.

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14 years ago

Congratulations on your success!

This is a very inspirational thread for anyone who is in a similar situation, like me, who gets no pleasure out of their day job and would love to create a full time income online. Like yourself, I have been dreaming of achieving this ever since I discovered IM almost 3 years ago, but convince myself that I have not got the time to commit to IM, and end up doing an hour here and an hour there, then I get distracted by checking emails, looking at "shiny new products", going on this forum etc, and not really getting much done.

I can relate to your comment regarding your wife not wanting you to spend time at night doing your IM tasks. It is difficult to slot in time for IM along with the day job and other family commitments, particularly when your family does not share any of your passion or belief in IM as an alternative way of creating an income. Although my wife has always said that she doesn't mind me spending 2+ hours per night at the PC, I can tell that she does get fed up if I do spend most of the night doing that. It does make you feel guilty, particularly when you have no income to show for it!

Did you follow any particular course to get to where you are now, or was it done just by piecing together various bits of free information?

Anyway, thanks for sharing your current success in such great detail and I will be keeping an eye on your website "noobstarter.com" when it becomes live.

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14 years ago

Well done Eyetrap
Very inspirational. Steadfast perseverance. I love reading these types of testimonials. Full of hope. Keep it up all the best.

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14 years ago

Excellent Post.

Inspirational and well written steps that you have taken.

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14 years ago

Great Job!

I am yet to tackle Amazon myself, all my sales have come from my random Ad placements on Squidoo pages.

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14 years ago

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14 years ago

Reading this thread has helped me a lot because I need to focus more and more on my Amazon affiliate account as it seems like a profitable venture.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by FreshDomains

Reading this thread has helped me a lot because I need to focus more and more on my Amazon affiliate account as it seems like a profitable venture.

Amazon sites can be very profitable, and work well in providing an additional income stream that is pretty much passive once set up. In addition to that, a lot of the work is easily outsourced, so it can be scaled up very easily.
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14 years ago

You deserve great success because you have taken ACTION!
Well done and thanks for sharing in such detail about your action plan. Very helpful and motivating.

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14 years ago

Thanks for these awesome tips!

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14 years ago

Wow looks like you've done a great job.
Now it's time for you to make a good report and maybe sell it here.

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14 years ago

Am I the only one thinking that creating a more generic website focusing on a certain niche is better than going after micro niches?

I personally would rather create a website on "Lawn mowers" instead of "Cordless lawn mowers". This shouldn't affect the SEO process if you target product names as your keywords on different pages of your site. However, doing this will create a website with authority that will help the rankings of new products that you will be adding to the site.

I don't know, but creating a micro niche website that has no growth potential seems like a waist of backlinks to me.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ehsan_am

Am I the only one thinking that creating a more generic website focusing on a certain niche is better than going after micro niches?

Hi Ehsan,

I think both approaches are legitimate, and it comes down to personal preference. I discussed the two approaches is my latest article, How to estimate the size, value, and competition level of a niche market (Particularly the Mini-site or Authority Blog? section)

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fat Tony

Hi Ehsan,

I think both approaches are legitimate, and it comes down to personal preference. I discussed the two approaches is my latest article, How to estimate the size, value, and competition level of a niche market (Particularly the Mini-site or Authority Blog? section)

Tony,

Even though I like your article Idon't think it applies directly to Amazon review sites. Amazon websites are put out there to intercept a buying decision. I don't think there is much of a community created around an amazon review website.

I personally think that the main reason one should decide to create a larger amazon review website is the easy rankings it will bring in the future.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough so let me rephrase what I said.

Most people (amazon reviewers) target product names as their keywords. this is simply because those product names have low competition and are easy to rank for. Another reason is that people looking for that specific product name are probalay very targeted visitors who are planning on buying that product.

Since you shouldn't be using the product name and brand in your domain name ( trademark) there is no special SEO value or advantage in going after a more specific niche.

What I'm trying to say is taht I would rather go after a niche and keyword like "Lawn mower reviews" more than several smaller websites on "Gas-Powered Lawn Mowers","Electric-Powered Law Mowers", etc

The first website can contain all those more specific niches as categories and building backlinks to each page or category of the first site will help in ranking the other pages and categories as well. The same thing can't be said about the other websites which are basically different properties.

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14 years ago

Comprehensive plan for anyone wanting to sell on Amazon. Good work!

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14 years ago

Firstly, congratulations!

Thanks for being such a gem and sharing your success story with everyone! This is indeed a very detailed plan which I recommend those are planning to start promoting Amazon products to implement.

And yes,

NO amazon widgets, only text links in the body and of course link EVERY picture to amazon.

Text links have been proven to convert better for me, especially when they are embedded within reviews.

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14 years ago

all i can say is good work buddy. I can see that your passionate about what you do. It's great your out of debt. I can say so many are in debt and that really is preventing them from being wealthy. I heard a quote from john demartini he said "if you can't manage your emotions don't ever expect to be able to handle your money". Amazon is a great place to make an income

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Gotta love the tips.Cheers.

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