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mrdanilodiaz 7th June 2013 07:53 PM

Is Elance a scam?
 
I've been working part-time on Elance for almost 3 years now.
Just yesterday, my account was closed.
I contacted them for the reason, and this is the reply.
Quote:

Hello paypoy,

During a review of your account, we determined that you are not meeting the minimum standards for our community with regards to managing job opportunities and active projects. Specifically, the number of proposals you have submitted without job award falls under our minimum requirements.

After a full review of your account closure response, we unfortunately will not be able to reinstate your account. you do have access to withdraw your current funds and complete any open jobs.

Regards,
Elance Trust & Safety
My account closed because my job award are under their minimum requirements?
I think this is unreasonable! It is a bidding site. You can't always expect to win.

Besides, I think I'm actually getting a high award rate.

They should close those who give crappy work.

Anyway, it's their lost.

CyberAlien 7th June 2013 07:56 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdanilodiaz (Post 8154936)
You can't always expect to win.

No, you can't always win. But, if you're almost never winning then they may not think there's a point to you having an account there.

Regardless of the situation, there's a place for reviews: Internet Marketing Product Reviews & Ratings

Holmstrom 7th June 2013 10:47 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Hi, move to oDesk, I think you are going to like it!

alrealestate 8th June 2013 01:55 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Yes Odesk is the big dog in outsourcing for nonprogramming services. We seem to find more work than we can handle on Odesk... Only problem to many weekend get rich courses are sending folks to all the outsourcing sites with the promise of a native English speaking virtual assistant with a masters in accounting marketing and literature for 1.00 an hour. We wont touch any thing for less than the US minimum wage for voice work. Non voice is a different story.

tamalanwar 8th June 2013 02:02 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Odesk is crowded now days and elance is still a cleaner marketplace.

No Elance/Odesk is not a scam.

techbul 8th June 2013 02:38 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I personally like Odesk, it's so simple to work with. In my opinion, it's just so much better than Freelancer and Elance.

vishwa 8th June 2013 05:04 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Actually They have some requirements which all freelance has to comply. though it is not a fact that they are scam. By the way you can move on odesk, they don't bother you any way.

mindwire 8th June 2013 07:02 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
They are not a scam, they in fact want you to meet certain requirements.
Save yourself some time and move on to odesk, it's by far the best freelancing site.

TiffanyLambert 8th June 2013 07:29 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
...or, open your own ghostwriting website and work harder promoting that than bidding on projects :) That works too - I know from experience ;)

Greedy 8th June 2013 11:21 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I wouldn't sweat it.

I've spent over $15,000 on eLance and they randomly banned my account a month ago. I hadn't used the account in 2 months.

I just moved to oDesk. Same different. ;)

Benjamin Ehinger 8th June 2013 12:10 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdanilodiaz (Post 8154936)
I've been working part-time on Elance for almost 3 years now.
Just yesterday, my account was closed.
I contacted them for the reason, and this is the reply.


My account closed because my job award are under their minimum requirements?
I think this is unreasonable! It is a bidding site. You can't always expect to win.

Besides, I think I'm actually getting a high award rate.

They should close those who give crappy work.

Anyway, it's their lost.

First, your anger towards Elance doesn't warrant questioning whether they are a scam or not. THEY ARE NOT A SCAM! Second, they have policies like this one in place for a reason. Finally, it's not their loss. They have plenty of writers and just because you're mad at them doesn't make it their loss.

Benjamin Ehinger

dudeco 8th June 2013 12:31 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
No, they are not a scam. But good news for you is that there are other options. Like others have said, I have had good success with oDesk, and have also had good success with Guru. So, you have options. :)

Moneymaker2012 10th June 2013 01:02 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Elance is not a scam, they don't bear any failure in results. You can move to odesk it is also great to work with.

mbacak 10th June 2013 01:09 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Many people paint the world with a negative
paint brush. Instead of getting upset about it,
you might want to ask yourself....

What went right, what went wrong and how can you fix it

....before I'd think about moving
to Odesk or any other place.

Dennis Gaskill 10th June 2013 01:26 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy (Post 8156685)
I wouldn't sweat it.

I've spent over $15,000 on eLance and they randomly banned my account a month ago. I hadn't used the account in 2 months.

I just moved to oDesk. Same different. ;)

They randomly banned your account?

Really?

How does that serve their interests?

kinyash 10th June 2013 01:40 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Sad as it is, they are having tighter rules these days but that does not mean they are a scam. I am sure they do have their reasons. I would suggest you evaluate what really went wrong and move to the other alternatives. Getting worked up is counter productive.

sbucciarel 10th June 2013 01:40 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy (Post 8156685)
I wouldn't sweat it.

I've spent over $15,000 on eLance and they randomly banned my account a month ago. I hadn't used the account in 2 months.

I just moved to oDesk. Same different. ;)

They don't just randomly ban accounts. What did they ban your account for?

BloggerDeen 10th June 2013 01:41 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Yeah these companies can do anything. When companies become big they stop caring about people who built them but stop getting disappointed move on to something next. Its not a big deal. When you are self employed instead of posting it on forums, move on to next one.

SoniaB 10th June 2013 02:08 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
You should take a look at freelanceswitch. Great payouts and converts because its a rather small community.

curationsoft 10th June 2013 02:53 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I have nothing against Elance, they may have the right to change their policy whenever they like. I suggest you go to Odesk, they are one of the strongest recruiter company that I know.

rosetrees 10th June 2013 05:07 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Is Elance a Scam? Obviously, that's why they've been around for so long.

You aren't doing yourself any favours by asking such a daft question. If you'd asked for help in working out why your account was banned, fine. But to blatantly ask if they are a scam when you KNOW they aren't as you have had had WORK via them, tells me a lot about you and your attitude.

If it's the same attitude you use towards potential clients, then that tells me why you were banned.

Instead of screaming scam, why not politely ask them to refer you to the part in their T&Cs that refers to minimum requirements.

Patrick 10th June 2013 05:11 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rosetrees (Post 8161255)
Is Elance a Scam? Obviously, that's why they've been around for so long.


Was that a typing mistake ? :eek::p

jay walters 10th June 2013 05:32 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I don't believe that Elance is a scam. It is a clean place to hire or work projects.

TimothyTorrents 10th June 2013 05:50 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Elance is not a scam.

But that does not mean that you will get your money's worth of work. I never used Elance but I think the platform is quite similar to freelancer.com. Every time you bid on a project and the project closes, even if you are not the winner, Elance takes a fee.

I got a negative balance on freelancer.com and almost immediately got a warning email to deposit funds or I will be banned. I guess, you were banned because you forgot to deposit more cash into your account. Am I right?

Regardless, I think it is best to take matters into your own hands when it comes to finding clients. Don't depend on one website to provide you with all your work.

Good luck!

RockNRolla 10th June 2013 06:30 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I'm sure Elance isn't a scam. However, I also prefer oDesk for my outsourcing.

MackSell 10th June 2013 06:51 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Is Elance a scam?

No! Not At All.

eClicker 10th June 2013 07:34 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
No scam at Elance, just rules we may not be aware of. This ban may turn into a blessing for your business. There are many great ideas to propel your business forward suggested here. ;>)

katherineolga 10th June 2013 08:22 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
That sounds very odd but it's not a scam.

I think that it is a great opportunity to change tactics. It is all too easy get stuck at those sites.

What I don't like is that they didn't appear to give you warning - they didn't give you a chance to improve!

rosetrees 10th June 2013 09:43 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 8161260)
Was that a typing mistake ? :eek::p

Lol - it was meant to be ironic :D

msharmjia 10th June 2013 09:50 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
You should read their TOS and if you find they are going against that, then its good time to sue them. Otherwise, better go on finding for some other site and register there.

Patrick 10th June 2013 10:50 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rosetrees (Post 8161985)
Lol - it was meant to be ironic :D

lol. For one second I thought you agreed with the OP. But then looking at your post count and blog posts made me think otherwise

marketingva 10th June 2013 01:54 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
After reading the response from Elance in the OP it looked to me that you may have sent out numerous proposals for jobs you weren't qualified to do. I see that happen alot in Elance. Some people or companies send out a response/proposal to every job they see posted in hopes that someone will hire them. This knocks down your award rate and Elance objected to that.

Bonnie

webgenco 11th June 2013 04:55 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I use odesk to hire part time freelance programming help more than elance. I have never been a contractor for either, I just hire from them, but I can say I have had much better luck with the people I have found via odesk vs. elance.

Shannonn 26th August 2013 03:06 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I do not know about elance but freelancer is not my favorite cup of tea. I have had an unfortunate experience with them and I abandoned everything. However, I believe this might be an isolated case, since they are know world wide and have a great rate of success. So, basically, it depends on users and their approach on the projects!

MarketMaster13 26th August 2013 03:18 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Move on to oDesk,they are a bit flexible as compared to Elance.

Adie 26th August 2013 05:13 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Elance is the best and cleanest freelance site. One must follow the rules and requirements in order to stay. This is actually a good move by elance. You post an open job at freelancer.com then an army of unqualified bidders start to pour their non-sense offers. Elance don't like this kind of thing that's why it stays clean.

Randall Magwood 26th August 2013 06:11 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Start your own site dude. All of the clients that you've worked with already, offer them something valuable (yet free) for a case study or lengthy testimonial. Plus you won't have to play the price game with other people on the freelance sites.

bhuff85 26th August 2013 08:23 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiffanyLambert (Post 8156071)
...or, open your own ghostwriting website and work harder promoting that than bidding on projects :) That works too - I know from experience ;)

I second this :)

While some freelance sites can be worth the effort for supplementary income (during any slow months), finding your own clients is by far the best approach. Much more opportunity to build long-term relationships. Besides that, you're build a real business, rather than relying on others to bring the work to you.

Tim Franklin 26th August 2013 08:28 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I never cared for Elance, I did not like the way they did business, as a buyer, never even bothered with the seller side of things, they just do not seem like they have it together.

Odesk, now that is something I can recommend.

joseph7384 26th August 2013 08:34 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Is Elance a scam?
I don't think so but my question is this. Is Burger king a scam? I ordered a Big mac yesterday and the lettuce was wilted.

Iqball 26th August 2013 08:36 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
As with all things internet and business in todays
climate, you must diversify you operational capabilities friend.

samscott10 26th August 2013 08:50 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Look i've never had any trouble with Elance or Odesk for that matter and it sucks what happened but you can understand their reasoning. You've seen all the spammer bids people put up, it gets annoying. But whatever you do, never use freelancer.com .... EVER

carol951 26th August 2013 08:59 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Elance is not a scam, they are simple following their guidelines... They did give you the opportunity to complete any unfinished work and access to withdraw your money

samscott10 26th August 2013 09:05 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Nope, they're still evil

bradstern 26th August 2013 09:37 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
After reading all the responses on this thread, it seems like the OP has just been hit by one of Elance's rules. That doesn't necessarily rule them out as a spam site.

In fact, along with oDesk, Freelancer and 99Designs, these are the sites I would recommend for contract work.

You can check out this infographic that compares these 4 big sites:
http://biz30.timedoctor.com/odesk-vs...s-infographic/

http://i.imgur.com/cumfBjj.jpg?1

It compares their funding, number of freelancers, charge rate, etc.

wfjason 26th August 2013 10:22 PM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I doubt that there are scam as they have been around for some time. But as the other Warriors have mention, I will compile of list of the customers that are happy with my services and follow up with them so that there is a relationship.

If they ever needed the same work being done again, they will think of you. You can also consider being more active in offline networking event where you can let more people know what you are offering. There is a website call Meetup which will enable you to attend many of these networking event.

sanusense 27th August 2013 12:38 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
I knew that because they have cheated with me too. I prefer oDesk, they have really good customers.

Richard Van 27th August 2013 12:50 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill (Post 8160886)
They randomly banned your account?

I just can't get the connection between the OP being banned and Elance being a scam.

Why does that make them a scam?

It's nothing to do with a scam.

(EDIT. I'm talking to the OP, not you Dennis, I was agreeing with what you said)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joseph7384 (Post 8441472)
I don't think so but my question is this. Is Burger king a scam? I ordered a Big mac yesterday and the lettuce was wilted.

Now that is a scam, you buy Big Macs in MacDonalds, not Burger King. :p

rosetrees 27th August 2013 03:01 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joseph7384 (Post 8441472)
I don't think so but my question is this. Is Burger king a scam? I ordered a Big mac yesterday and the lettuce was wilted.

Of course that's a scam. Since when did "Burger King" sell "Big Macs". You've been had man. Probably a horse burger. (UK joke)

Richard Van 27th August 2013 03:06 AM

Re: Is Elance a scam?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rosetrees (Post 8442283)
Of course that's a scam. Since when did "Burger King" sell "Big Macs". You've been had man. Probably a horse burger. (UK joke)

You're a scammer too, for copying me.

See last post :p


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