I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month. So to all you noobs out there ( I'm kinda one to) it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
Joel

How did you do that? With ppc I suppose?

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Success With Dany

How did you do that? With ppc I suppose?

PPC indeed my friend...best way

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dle45

15 years ago

since that is such a huge jump in earnings....

would you mind telling us how you accomplished this. I am curious and I am sure some of the newbs are as well

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joelraitt

15 years ago

ummm well....there is quite a bit to it...

i picked 1 offer, 1 traffic source ( PPC) made 2 LP's and tested everything.

pretty much it. and made really good ads.

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meenu 15 years ago

That's good work as part of you. I will try to follow your path for achieve the success like your.
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RyanLeonard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

ummm well....there is quite a bit to it...

i picked 1 offer, 1 traffic source ( PPC) made 2 LP's and tested everything.

pretty much it. and made really good ads.

Did you happen to create a list while you were making money on the CPL? If so, what was a brief structure of your followup emails?

Anyways man, that's AWESOME. I feel like I'm about to hit that same point myself. I'm launching a new campaign tonight- and after looking at my previous results, I think I'm actually going to make some profit this time!

BTW- what are you going to school for?

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joelraitt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by RyanLeonard

Did you happen to create a list while you were making money on the CPL? If so, what was a brief structure of your followup emails?

Anyways man, that's AWESOME. I feel like I'm about to hit that same point myself. I'm launching a new campaign tonight- and after looking at my previous results, I think I'm actually going to make some profit this time!

BTW- what are you going to school for?

Hey Ryan,

i never did collect emails at the start, wish i did though. the style we like to portray is this ( depends on market, how they got added to your list)

now thats all i work on...lists

in gernal though, the first 10 days we just build trust/relationships with 4-8 emails or so. also, you never want to sell...just recomened stuff...make sense?

your like the gatekeeper kinda....filter out all the garbage and show em the ebst thing...

that help at all? sorry my typing is bad im laying in bed haha

ps good luck on your new campagin, and i went to school for a 2 year business diploma haha

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RyanLeonard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Ryan,

i never did collect emails at the start, wish i did though. the style we like to portray is this ( depends on market, how they got added to your list)

now thats all i work on...lists

in gernal though, the first 10 days we just build trust/relationships with 4-8 emails or so. also, you never want to sell...just recomened stuff...make sense?

your like the gatekeeper kinda....filter out all the garbage and show em the ebst thing...

that help at all? sorry my typing is bad im laying in bed haha

ps good luck on your new campagin, and i went to school for a 2 year business diploma haha

Awesome man, that helps a lot. I appreciate it, and will be implementing it.
Go get em'!

Peace,
-Ryan Leonard

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joelraitt 14 years ago

Originally Posted by RyanLeonard

Awesome man, that helps a lot. I appreciate it, and will be implementing it.
Go get em'!

Peace,
-Ryan Leonard

Nice man, yah just think of them as your friend...talk to them like that, you'll nail it down.
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Delarox

13 years ago

Very inspiring thread Joel...just spent a couple of hrs reading the whole thing. I noticed that you started the thread in 09 and ffwd to 11 your still killing it. Awesome

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Delarox

Very inspiring thread Joel...just spent a couple of hrs reading the whole thing. I noticed that you started the thread in 09 and ffwd to 11 your still killing it. Awesome

A lot of things have changed since then! There has been up's and downs of course!

Anymore questions from people?

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joelraitt

15 years ago

i also spent a LOT of time in front of the computer haha its not like money just runs free off the internet into your pocket....you have to work

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by John Waits

Keep her up!

This has been my best month online so far as well....

Made about almost $500 this month! ($400 in the last week)

So I know how you feel man!

I love waking up to those "notification of payments received" emails!

FEED YOUR BRAIN

That's wicked man, its a fun game once you start winning, although, its frustrating when your not!

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rawaccess 15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

i also spent a LOT of time in front of the computer haha its not like money just runs free off the internet into your pocket....you have to work

damn... lol
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- joelraitt 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by rawaccess
  
  damn... lol
  
  there are nots of places that teach you just to post links on google for 2-300 a day...lol kidding dont do it
  
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  How do you make your own traffic source? Just a short paragraph is enough, don't need any details, just wondering how the process usually goes.
  
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  Originally Posted by Shoyru
  
  How do you make your own traffic source? Just a short paragraph is enough, don't need any details, just wondering how the process usually goes.
  
  Find ways to pay for traffic that you can then keep marketing to your users... email lists, blogs, fb pages sometimes....anything like that...
  
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fatakha 15 years ago

whoo ! it's fantastic, could you share your experience. to motivate me to be more aggressive to work on line.

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- TVChatten 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by fatakha
  
  whoo ! it's fantastic, could you share your experience. to motivate me to be more aggressive to work on line.
  
  from fatakha in Indonesia
  
  Read throughout the entire thread (from the first post until now)...that's truly inspirational plus he used his own way.
  
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15 years ago

That's impressive! Well done...

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Alex Lin

15 years ago

Impressive! It would be nice if you could share a bit in detail.

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amoeba 15 years ago

sounds amazing.wat kinda offer u were promoting(ppl/ppc/ppa action)??
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- joelraitt 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by amoeba
  
  sounds amazing.wat kinda offer u were promoting(ppl/ppc/ppa action)??
  
  All CPL through mostly 2 offers and 1 traffic source PPC
  
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warrior212 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alex Lin

Impressive! It would be nice if you could share a bit in detail.

Yeah, I'm eager to know how you do it, please I really appreciate if you can share the methods you use.
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Greg Jacobs

15 years ago

rebills I assume.

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robhud1 15 years ago

WOW, what a tease! LOL

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Waddle

What PPC networks are you using? Are you still only promoting one product? If not, how many products are you currently promoting and how did you go about adding them to your marketing mix?

GOod question. Right now Im promoting 3 products. ( I got capped on my one offer for to much volume) I just got my Account Manager to tell me what was hot, so I did....made it work, only added 1 campaing though, not a bunch! Dont wanna go to crazy!

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joelraitt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

rebills I assume.

Wrong, I do not rebill.
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babarapho

15 years ago

That was marvelous of you. Keep it up.

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15 years ago

well done mate !! ihope u make more!!

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bqpennell

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Shift

So you're spending about $1 to make $3 profit?

And your point is? I would spend $1.00 if it returned $1.50, Profit is profit i dont care how you look at it,

Originally Posted by st0rm

well done mate !! ihope u make more!!

I dont feel the same i been trying ppc for a little over a Month

Ad words negative $100 so far
Face book negative $250 so far
7 Search $90 profit

All together im in the hole $260 so far lol, I am glad you made alot of money but id be lying if i didnt admit it breaks my moral knowing after a month im in the hole and you just starting made 12k profit, So i am not getting the message it is possible i am more or less getting the message that i obviously am not very good at this PPC route

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joelraitt

13 years ago

$260 in the hole is nothing, just make sure you're learning why things do and don't work...

Keep trying things and you'll find something, t least your testing things.

If you ever have a campaign that's close to break even at the start....testing can easily get it to 100% ROI.

try more ads, images, copy, landing pages, time of day, days of the week...

Having 1 profitable even if it's $90 is awesome.

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And your point is? I would spend $1.00 if it returned $1.50, Profit is profit i dont care how you look at it,

I dont feel the same i been trying ppc for a little over a Month

Ad words negative $100 so far
Face book negative $250 so far
7 Search $90 profit

All together im in the hole $260 so far lol, I am glad you made alot of money but id be lying if i didnt admit it breaks my moral knowing after a month im in the hole and you just starting made 12k profit, So i am not getting the message it is possible i am more or less getting the message that i obviously am not very good at this PPC route

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elcorillord 13 years ago

Joel you are so lucky
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- Dayne Dylan Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by elcorillord
  
  Joel you are so lucky
  
  I don't think it is about luck. It is about hard work, testing, and taking risks.
  
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  Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan
  
  I don't think it is about luck. It is about hard work, testing, and taking risks.
  
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blienen

15 years ago

Congrats! Keep that up now!
I'm wondering how you're doing you're research when picking a cpa-offer?
How many offers did you try before finding a successful one?

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by blienen

Congrats! Keep that up now!
I'm wondering how you're doing you're research when picking a cpa-offer?
How many offers did you try before finding a successful one?

Best Regards

Really just by looking at the LP, stay away from CC's to start. A lot easier. And I tried lots of **** till I hit one...I tried email and zip but payout were to small. Anything between 3.8 and 5 are the best cuz they are soft leads and payouts high enough to make $$$

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Bujoi23 15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Anything between 3.8 and 5 are the best cuz they are soft leads and payouts high enough to make $$$

is this $3.8 and $5?
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- joelraitt 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bujoi23
  
  is this $3.8 and $5?
  
  Yes i meant dollars there! Just how I started anyways...
  
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12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Really just by looking at the LP, stay away from CC's to start. A lot easier. And I tried lots of **** till I hit one...I tried email and zip but payout were to small. Anything between 3.8 and 5 are the best cuz they are soft leads and payouts high enough to make $$$

[Really just by looking at the LP, stay away from CC's to start. A lot easier. And I tried lots of **** till I hit one...I tried email and zip but payout were to small. Anything between 3.8 and 5 are the best cuz they are soft leads and payouts high enough to make $$$]

what networks can you get high EPC's ($3.8 - $5)?

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Kenster

15 years ago

Yes, these results are possible, especially with ppc

PPC is a high risk high reward game for newbies though because sometimes you have to test and test and test and lose your shirt before finding a winning campaign. Looks like you found one early and are reaping the rewards.

Well done and now get back to work and find a few more winners!

..and as we all know, revenue means zilch...what was your return and/or ppc spend?

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15 years ago

Revenue means zilch yet that's all that is ever broadcast.

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jitterbug978

15 years ago

How much of that was profit and how much did you have to invest in order to make that 45k...?

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Oscar D

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

How much of that was profit and how much did you have to invest in order to make that 45k...?

Yes, now that is a very good question worth asking, as said already here - revenue is not as important as the profit.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Oscar D

Yes, now that is a very good question worth asking, as said already here - revenue is not as important as the profit.

Good one

There seems to be some confustion.... as of this morning revenue was about 54 000 profit this month so far is about 12,500...so i paid 41,500 to make 12,500 in 21 days. not a great ROI but it doesnt matter...i made 12000 in 21 days...plus i keep tweaking campagns so my ROI keeps going up, today its 50% rather then 20% it used to be

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

There seems to be some confustion.... as of this morning revenue was about 54 000 profit this month so far is about 12,500...so i paid 41,500 to make 12,500 in 21 days. not a great ROI but it doesnt matter...i made 12000 in 21 days...plus i keep tweaking campagns so my ROI keeps going up, today its 50% rather then 20% it used to be

Thanks for clearing that up. If you arent split testing different networks I would suggest doing it because I have seen many people get burned by network refusing to pay. Your traffic sounds completely legit, but it cant hurt to diversify a bit and spread risk.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Thanks for clearing that up. If you arent split testing different networks I would suggest doing it because I have seen many people get burned by network refusing to pay. Your traffic sounds completely legit, but it cant hurt to diversify a bit and spread risk.

best of luck

yah man for sure, i trust my network 100%, although i have account with a few others i mosty run with one for the reason i know they will pay me. but you have a valid point for sure. and yah im not smart enough to do any of the crazy black hat stuff, im all legit haha

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Waddle

Congrats on your success! What tools are you using to manage your operation? eg. traffic stats, managing your ads and bids, monitoring conversions, split testing etc. Do you use a squeeze page?

Hey man, thanks....ummm I use Prosper202 to track all my stats...its 100% free and by far the best. Tracking 202 is the same thing, but they host it all for you. Easy to use. 202 pretty much does everything, I use it for split testing, convertions, ROI, and all that.

I monitor my bids through th ads manager directly from my traffic source! By squeeze page, you mean e-mail grabber? No. I use a Landing Page ( single page telling them why they should do what i want them to and telling them to do it now). Sometimes I even Direct link to the offer. Try both.

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oryangub

15 years ago

I just had a thought when he mentioned he uses prosper 202 and tracking 202. I have not used them yet but could it be possible that the one that is hosted on their servers they use all that information: Offers, leads, traffic, conversions, all that precious information for their own campaigns ?

I don't want to sound cynical but if the service is free than that would be one heck of a way to benefit from all those users using their tracking software and dumping all that precious information in their laps.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

This turned out to be a great thread, kind of took off a bit. Anyways thought I would send in an update, last month was a record for me!!!!!

175 000 + rev and 60,000 + profit

I used other forms of traffic, but still no rebils or any scams.

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I just had a thought when he mentioned he uses prosper 202 and tracking 202. I have not used them yet but could it be possible that the one that is hosted on their servers they use all that information: Offers, leads, traffic, conversions, all that precious information for their own campaigns ?

I don't want to sound cynical but if the service is free than that would be one heck of a way to benefit from all those users using their tracking software and dumping all that precious information in their laps.

As for this, i have good friends who have met them, its not in there best interest to steal people ****s, thats not their business, so its pretty safe. it actually hides information for the networks who will steal or pass on your success to others for a buck or two.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey man, thanks....ummm I use Prosper202 to track all my stats...its 100% free and by far the best. Tracking 202 is the same thing, but they host it all for you. Easy to use. 202 pretty much does everything, I use it for split testing, convertions, ROI, and all that.

I monitor my bids through th ads manager directly from my traffic source! By squeeze page, you mean e-mail grabber? No. I use a Landing Page ( single page telling them why they should do what i want them to and telling them to do it now). Sometimes I even Direct link to the offer. Try both.

prosper202 >> is it 100% free?

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cpablogger 15 years ago

well done mate ,Keep that up!!
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eclario 15 years ago

So what PPC platform did you use. Chitika? Adbrite? If you didnt use Adwords.
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The Covenanter 15 years ago

Fantastic. It is stories like this that give all of us heart and keep the dream alive. It would be great if you could produce a course or some such method to teach us newbs.

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That great keep it up.Stay focus and motivated.
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lesstraveled 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

but it cant hurt to diversify a bit and spread risk.

best of luck

Kenster, thanks for that advice.
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Union 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

How much of that was profit and how much did you have to invest in order to make that 45k...?

, 90.000 invested, to get back 40.000$
Great system he has, ill buy as soon as ill see lited here, ive got an extra $ for Casino
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- joelraitt 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Union
  
  , 90.000 invested, to get back 40.000$
  Great system he has, ill buy as soon as ill see lited here, ive got an extra $ for Casino
  
  haha definitely no close to that, i forget now it was a long time ago...it says somewhere in here what i spent vs what i made...
  
  I think I was around 25-80% ROI though....I dont like how people get all caught up in ROI...profit is all that matters really.
  
  200% ROI on 10 spend = $20 profit or 25% ROI on 1,000 spend = $250 profit.
  
  Ill take the 25% ROI all day, plus there is more room to improve there.
  
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philrich21 12 years ago

Originally Posted by jitterbug978

How much of that was profit and how much did you have to invest in order to make that 45k...?

Didn't the op say 13k profit.
PPC is definitely the best method for instant traffic that does convert but as has been stated previously you do need to test this and always set daily spending limits or you could indeed lose your shirt. Another great tip for PPC IS to search out some good negative keywords also
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Franck Silvestre 15 years ago

I'd say the same here.

how much did you spend to get this amount $10000? 20000?

That's really important for newbies, because they think that most of it is profit.

anyway, seems to be great results, congrats.

Franck

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

Revenue means zilch yet that's all that is ever broadcast.

DOes it mean nothing? Its getting me a free 4 day adventure tour of COsta Rica with the other top 20 affilaites. Its getting me a free trip on my CC, and my profit on that 43, now 57 000 rev is anout 12000 this month...not great...but OK

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

DOes it mean nothing? Its getting me a free 4 day adventure tour of COsta Rica with the other top 20 affilaites. Its getting me a free trip on my CC, and my profit on that 43, now 57 000 rev is anout 12000 this month...not great...but OK

Just to be clear at the end of the day Revenue does mean zilch

If you have revenue of 1,000,000 and costs of 1,300,000, guess what, you can go on 10 'free' trips to costa rica but youre still in the hole.

If you are saying you have rev of 57 and costs of 12 then good on you, thats awesome. The whole revenue debate just erks me a little bit because I know a lot of newbies dont know the difference between revenue and profit and salesletters often exploit this.

If you are putting up good numbers with a good margin, best of luck and keep it up

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SpeedofMoney

15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

DOes it mean nothing? Its getting me a free 4 day adventure tour of COsta Rica with the other top 20 affilaites. Its getting me a free trip on my CC, and my profit on that 43, now 57 000 rev is anout 12000 this month...not great...but OK

12000 a month? Not great?...Only OK?

Are you kidding, that's amazing!!

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Agent007 15 years ago

Hi Joel,

Thanks for your great thread and posts. Great to hear someone else making good coin. My domain arbi project was doing net profits up to $300k+ p.a. profit after ad spend at times, but hassles with Google and 2 account suspensions put a dampener on things in December. However, it gave me the kick in the butt I needed to get out and test other traffic sources and offers.

I've pretty much figured out the network you use. hehe Wasn't that hard. You gave so many clues Don't worry I won't out it here.

I tried to PM you about the network but haven't got my 50 posts yet to do that. So feel free to PM me if you want to discuss the network. If its the same one I have a good AM that will give me a print out of top offers by traffic source & also a top affiliate breakdown. Had an account for a while but just starting using it this week.
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DannyLucas 15 years ago

Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

Revenue means zilch yet that's all that is ever broadcast.

I'm trying to understand your post. Are you saying that his claim is not valid? Or are you saying that most people boast about revenue income (gross) and not (net)?

Didn't he post his net income from his post?
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blanchi

15 years ago

Wanna write an e-book? (kidding). Great work! Would love to know about the niche (I know, wishfull thinking) and whether it is make-money-online "crowded" or one of those sepcialized niches. Any pointers I'm sure we will all appreciate it!

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Shift

15 years ago

Interesting but how much did you have to spend on PPC in order to see that $45k?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by kimiroger

Hi all. I am new to this world of online money-making. This topic caught my eye. I was wondering what a PPC is? Can anyone explain how it works and how I can get started?

PPC = Pay Per Click

You run ads on PPC network like Google adwords and you pay for every click you get on your ads..

If you are new (I think you are) to the PPC, then just be careful

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- Shakul 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by kimiroger
  
  But from what you say, you have to pay for per click. But how did the topic creator get revenue using PPC? Please tell me. I am interested.
  
  Here it is how it goes:
  
  (You - CPA Publisher/Affiliate) -> Sign up with PPC network
  
  Then you login to your CPA network account and choose offers which you think will make money
  
  After that you go back to your PPC network account and run ads for these offers and you pay for every click...
  
  Suppose, you received 1000 clicks and you paid $800.
  
  Out of those 1000 visitors suppose 25 of them completed the offer (assuming offer pays is CPS and it is $35 per lead) then you will make $875.
  
  So, $875 = Revenue
  and $75 = Profit
  
  PPC requires lots of tweaking, like finding the good offer, landing page, ad copy, etc etc and of course it involves risk
  
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by kimiroger

Hi all. I am new to this world of online money-making. This topic caught my eye. I was wondering what a PPC is? Can anyone explain how it works and how I can get started?

PPC is "pay-per-click." It's basically adwords. You get a Google adwords account, pick your keywords, write some ads (make sure the ad includes the keywords in the title and the body), bid your price (bid enough to be in the top 5), pay your money and hope that the people who click buy. It works, but it can be expensive and you can spend a lot of money on losers. Article marketing and blogs can be a lot better and a lot cheaper, but not as fast.

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Josef_Benjamin 15 years ago

Very smart.

I took the same path marketing with PPC, and the trick is to not be afriad to spend money to make more of it.

I could care less If I spent $300 and got no results - who cares, if you have to get a 2nd job for the sole purpose of testing PPC campaings until you get it right.

Personally, my campaigns convert because I only care to target keywords people look for that want to BUY or PURCHASE a specific physical or information product.

Anyways, getting fast targeted traffic is the name of the game, and I don't mind spending $300-$500 to test a campaign at the risk of failing. If you wanna use PPC, you gotta man up and just go for it.
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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Oregonman

PPC is "pay-per-click." It's basically adwords. You get a Google adwords account, pick your keywords, write some ads (make sure the ad includes the keywords in the title and the body), bid your price (bid enough to be in the top 5), pay your money and hope that the people who click buy. It works, but it can be expensive and you can spend a lot of money on losers. Article marketing and blogs can be a lot better and a lot cheaper, but not as fast.

No offence man, but that is horrible advice...i tried all the SEO crap, it takes forever, PPC, if you do things right cost not much, and risk not much, I maybe lost 300 on dumb crap before I started profiting...if you saved up all the money you spend on ebooks and videos on how to make money, you coul dhave found a huge campain!!!!!!!

Just some advice.

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doctfeelgood

15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No offence man, but that is horrible advice...i tried all the SEO crap, it takes forever, PPC, if you do things right cost not much, and risk not much, I maybe lost 300 on dumb crap before I started profiting...if you saved up all the money you spend on ebooks and videos on how to make money, you coul dhave found a huge campain!!!!!!!

Just some advice.

Hi,
I am a Newb to all of this and only just getting to know ppc etc. I am interested in what you are doing because it sounds as though you are onto something. So correct me if i am wrong but is ppc like an adwords account?
Good luck and keep going.
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by doctfeelgood

Hi,
I am a Newb to all of this and only just getting to know ppc etc. I am interested in what you are doing because it sounds as though you are onto something. So correct me if i am wrong but is ppc like an adwords account?
Good luck and keep going.
Cathy

Hmmm PPC just means pay per click, I do not use google at all. To be honest, it was to confusing and to hard, they 'slap' everyone so much its hard to keep it consistant. Its a great traffic source if you can get it to work, and spend a lot of time on it. Find something easier to start. Butt PPC is the way to go, you can measure, test, its fast. Results are instant....i went from almost nothing to ocer 600 in 1 evening. Been like that ever since. Find a different PPC traffic source....and master it, just one source!

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jawai

15 years ago

Do you use Yahoo Search ?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by jawai

Do you use Yahoo Search ?

Its great that you are interested in what the winners are doing, but you must remember that there is no one way to being successful at making money online. You can literally make a ton of money on any search engine, any cpa network, any niche etc

I would suggest you pick a traffic source and just go on to master it. People with successfull campaigns arent going to tell you what offers, keywords, etc they are doing, and in truth there is no magic bullet. So just get down to business, take action, and start making money!

Best of luck

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Jack@2009

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Its great that you are interested in what the winners are doing, but you must remember that there is no one way to being successful at making money online. You can literally make a ton of money on any search engine, any cpa network, any niche etc

I would suggest you pick a traffic source and just go on to master it. People with successfull campaigns arent going to tell you what offers, keywords, etc they are doing, and in truth there is no magic bullet. So just get down to business, take action, and start making money!

Best of luck

Kenster,

I love your answers.

You really know how the things work in IM.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jack@2009

Kenster,

I love your answers.

You really know how the things work in IM.

Thanks Jack. I remember when I was completely new, I was soo incredibly lost and thanks to a few warriors and my mentor I was able to keep course and finally gained traction and it has been all up hill from there.

The good thing is that there is soo much room and abundance in this industry that helping people out wont have the slightest effect on my business (unless I tell you my campaigns and keywords of course).

Best of luck...

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josero

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Thanks Jack. I remember when I was completely new, I was soo incredibly lost and thanks to a few warriors and my mentor I was able to keep course and finally gained traction and it has been all up hill from there.

The good thing is that there is soo much room and abundance in this industry that helping people out wont have the slightest effect on my business (unless I tell you my campaigns and keywords of course).

Best of luck...

Kenster, I think having a good mentor is the clue. I am just waiting for your reopening next Wednesday. Would you be then my mentor? Or does it take something more than purchasing a course to get a real mentor...

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by josero

Kenster, I think having a good mentor is the clue. I am just waiting for your reopening next Wednesday. Would you be then my mentor? Or does it take something more than purchasing a course to get a real mentor...

i'm currently in the course...it's solid, i'm learning a ton. just finished reading this entire thread, took me almost 4 hrs lol. it's interesting in that much of what joelraitt talks about in terms of general principals and overall approach is very similar to what william and kenster teach...seems like those who really have this thing figured out understand the same core principals. (btw excellent thread joel, lot's of great info, thnx so much for sharing your story.)

regarding your question above, the course is not a mentor-student type of situation, it's more of a classroom type of environment. you can at any time reach out via pm and they will answer your questions, but they ask that you research the topic first yourself via the the site forum, the wf, internet search, etc., and if you still can't find an answer then contact them. (this is simply to save them the time of answering questions that are easily found on a brief search.) they're working on a vip program that's more personalized where students will have much more access to them, it's supposed to be opening up very soon although we haven't heard an exact date.

hope that helps,
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josero

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Brian John

i'm currently in the course...it's solid, i'm learning a ton. just finished reading this entire thread, took me almost 4 hrs lol. it's interesting in that much of what joelraitt talks about in terms of general principals and overall approach is very similar to what william and kenster teach...seems like those who really have this thing figured out understand the same core principals. (btw excellent thread joel, lot's of great info, thnx so much for sharing your story.)

regarding your question above, the course is not a mentor-student type of situation, it's more of a classroom type of environment. you can at any time reach out via pm and they will answer your questions, but they ask that you research the topic first yourself via the the site forum, the wf, internet search, etc., and if you still can't find an answer then contact them. (this is simply to save them the time of answering questions that are easily found on a brief search.) they're working on a vip program that's more personalized where students will have much more access to them, it's supposed to be opening up very soon although we haven't heard an exact date.

hope that helps,
brian

Thank you Brian, your info about the course is clarifying.

And I agree with all of you that this thread is really good!

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Its great that you are interested in what the winners are doing, but you must remember that there is no one way to being successful at making money online. You can literally make a ton of money on any search engine, any cpa network, any niche etc

I would suggest you pick a traffic source and just go on to master it. People with successfull campaigns arent going to tell you what offers, keywords, etc they are doing, and in truth there is no magic bullet. So just get down to business, take action, and start making money!

Best of luck

Good anser Kenster, its true...you gotta literally work at it to get it to work, and if you can, find a mentor, mine changed everything...he makes over 100 000 a month on the internet...hes 21 years old. not bad. haha

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Good anser Kenster, its true...you gotta literally work at it to get it to work, and if you can, find a mentor, mine changed everything...he makes over 100 000 a month on the internet...hes 21 years old. not bad. haha

mentor me......i asked first lol jking great story makes me want to check out a PPC network...so you dont use the "natural" SEO?

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joelraitt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by futuremills

mentor me......i asked first lol jking great story makes me want to check out a PPC network...so you dont use the "natural" SEO?

SEO = Slow, effort, out of your control ( google owns you)

Pat per click all the way my friend. I used to do SEO, it takes way to much time, way to slow. Can it be done? Of course, and if thats how you make your living...then thats awesome!

If you are just starting out...even with almost no money...learn PPC...you can scale it HUGE FAST and make lots of coin. Then use that money to test new campaings, new LP's and all that fun stuff!

Trust me I have been through the ropes, haha it pays off. keep going.
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wizbiz 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jawai

Do you use Yahoo Search ?

He said like 20 times, that he's using Facebook.

Hello, joelraitt, could you recommend any WSO on Facebook Adv

course? Or maybe you have your own? Is there any specific

differences between Facebook and Other PPC?

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shubh9795 12 years ago

It is nice to hear that but seems almost impossible to me. I do not think that this is real
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- ResultsDriven 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by shubh9795
  
  It is nice to hear that but seems almost impossible to me. I do not think that this is real
  
  Why don't you think it's real? There are some guys who make MILLIONS online, why can't this be reasonable?
  
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  Originally Posted by shubh9795
  
  It is nice to hear that but seems almost impossible to me. I do not think that this is real
  
  Not impossible. There are people who are making 4-5 figures a day with media buys.
  
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Rob3rts 12 years ago

Congrats bro, i hope to someday i can at least make some kind of sale online!! Im new and still trying to learn about everything, can i ask how long have you been into internet makreting before you first made any money?

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overseer 12 years ago

Wow! What you achieved was amazing! I hope I have that kind of success soon
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harpreetrock

15 years ago

You said that you dont use google..then what is the other source..can u share..I feel that most of them are using google. is it yahoo, FB, or other that you can say?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by harpreetrock

You said that you dont use google..then what is the other source..can u share..I feel that most of them are using google. is it yahoo, FB, or other that you can say?

You wont make it in Internet Marketing if you cant even read the whole post where I tell you what I have used....I should note, I do use other sources as well.

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Bujoi23

15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Find something easier to start. Butt PPC is the way to go, you can measure, test, its fast. Results are instant....i went from almost nothing to ocer 600 in 1 evening. Been like that ever since. Find a different PPC traffic source....and master it, just one source!

Can you elaborate on "Butt PPC?"

And these other PPC traffic source?
Would greatlly appreciate it!

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Donald Truehart 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Bujoi23

Can you elaborate on "Butt PPC?" And these other PPC traffic source?
Would greatlly appreciate it!

He meant "but" with one "t". LOL
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  Originally Posted by Donald Truehart
  
  He meant "but" with one "t". LOL
  
  Haha! LOL thanks for clarifying that! I really thought there's BUTT PPC since there is Bluefart method, whatever that is...
  
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hmmm PPC just means pay per click, I do not use google at all. To be honest, it was to confusing and to hard, they 'slap' everyone so much its hard to keep it consistant. Its a great traffic source if you can get it to work, and spend a lot of time on it. Find something easier to start. Butt PPC is the way to go, you can measure, test, its fast. Results are instant....i went from almost nothing to ocer 600 in 1 evening. Been like that ever since. Find a different PPC traffic source....and master it, just one source!

This may have already been asked - I'm not being lazy, but I have limited time right now, and 11 pages is more that I can spare time for, lol!

Could you please elaborate on your choice of PPC networks? If you're not using Google, are you using Yahoo, or some other net?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by cjreynolds

This may have already been asked - I'm not being lazy, but I have limited time right now, and 11 pages is more that I can spare time for, lol!

Could you please elaborate on your choice of PPC networks? If you're not using Google, are you using Yahoo, or some other net?

This thread was mostly about Facebook ads, thats been my bread and butter for over 3 years now.

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12 years ago

Care ro share what PPC networks you do use?

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hmmm PPC just means pay per click, I do not use google at all. To be honest, it was to confusing and to hard, they 'slap' everyone so much its hard to keep it consistant. Its a great traffic source if you can get it to work, and spend a lot of time on it. Find something easier to start. Butt PPC is the way to go, you can measure, test, its fast. Results are instant....i went from almost nothing to ocer 600 in 1 evening. Been like that ever since. Find a different PPC traffic source....and master it, just one source!

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riselift 12 years ago

thats cool man, I'm trying to learn ppc right now, I already make money online though, from BC too
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Mayoor Patel

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Oregonman

PPC is "pay-per-click." It's basically adwords. You get a Google adwords account, pick your keywords, write some ads (make sure the ad includes the keywords in the title and the body), bid your price (bid enough to be in the top 5), pay your money and hope that the people who click buy. It works, but it can be expensive and you can spend a lot of money on losers. Article marketing and blogs can be a lot better and a lot cheaper, but not as fast.

It's not just adwords its any advertising platform where you pay per click.

Article Marketing and blogs can be better than PPC? LOL I now know why I come to this forum. For laughs.

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20092009

15 years ago

I would like to know what type of offers is it? Diet and weight loss? Make money online?

Probably rebill stuff I would imagine?

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Liam Hamer 15 years ago

Very well done, and to think I'm feeling really good because I've made $43 in the last couple of weeks since I've been doing CPA It'd be great to hear in more detail how you did it, and how much it cost you
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kazmatic

15 years ago

Your gonna need a lot of money to burn to make that sort of revenue in PPC so am guessing the OP has put a huge $$$$ figure sum in to achieve this. The main thing really is how much of this is profit

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15 years ago

At least you have your ego in check.

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J Bold

15 years ago

Profit is the key. Who cares about revenue? If he had to spend $50K to get $45K in revenue it really means less than nothing, literally.

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savaloi 12 years ago

Originally Posted by J Bold

Profit is the key. Who cares about revenue? If he had to spend $50K to get $45K in revenue it really means less than nothing, literally.

What a great quote, a simple, easy to understand definition of PPC etc that is all too often overlooked.
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15 years ago

As shakul said, ppc requires a lot of work but the great thing about ppc is that you get very fast results when you are testing and split testing. The best thing is the volume of traffic you can get. If you find the right offer, landing page, and keywords that have a good return, you can make a boatload of money.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month. So to all you noobs out there ( I'm kinda one to) it is possible!

Have a good one,
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Shift

15 years ago

So you're spending about $1 to make $3 profit?

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jh3000 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Shift

So you're spending about $1 to make $3 profit?

No based on 57k gross and 12k profit, he is making a profit of 21%, about $1 for every 4.75 spent, which is a decent margin.
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David Mcalorum

15 years ago

Yes, yes, everything is possible on this here internet we have today

. But I do wonder, is that revenue profiting extremely? or is it just breaking even?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Hijynx427

lol - my first question would be, "spare some change?" lol -

In all seriousness though, I'm wondering if you accomplished that through any WSO's or if you've been using other channels?

What products/ services do you offer?

Jason

No WSO at all, I was on tihs forum a long time ago, before I made any $$$, now im just back to tell people it can happen and give some advice.

Rule 1) Stop buying crappy stuff and use your brain.

Rule 2) There is more then enough free info out there to make crazy money on the internet.

Rule 3) No one is going to give you their stuff that makes them huge coin, do it yourself, people do everyday

Rule 4) Treat it like a business

Rule 5) Network with others who MAKE money

I have onyl done CPL ( Cost Per Lead) using PPC (pay per click) and this was all in my extra time ( worked full time and goto school full time and have a girlfriend) haha so no excuses. Excuses dont make money.

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T.J.

15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No WSO at all, I was on tihs forum a long time ago, before I made any $$$, now im just back to tell people it can happen and give some advice.

Rule 1) Stop buying crappy stuff and use your brain.

Rule 2) There is more then enough free info out there to make crazy money on the internet.

Rule 3) No one is going to give you their stuff that makes them huge coin, do it yourself, people do everyday

Rule 4) Treat it like a business

Rule 5) Network with others who MAKE money

I have onyl done CPL ( Cost Per Lead) using PPC (pay per click) and this was all in my extra time ( worked full time and goto school full time and have a girlfriend) haha so no excuses. Excuses dont make money.

Well said my friend. Well Said.

Great post!

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Yoel Cohen

15 years ago

This Thread Is Gold!!!!!

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No offence man, but that is horrible advice...i tried all the SEO crap, it takes forever, PPC, if you do things right cost not much, and risk not much, I maybe lost 300 on dumb crap before I started profiting...if you saved up all the money you spend on ebooks and videos on how to make money, you coul dhave found a huge campain!!!!!!!

Just some advice.

The Real Meat is this...

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No WSO at all, I was on tihs forum a long time ago, before I made any $$$, now im just back to tell people it can happen and give some advice.

Rule 1) Stop buying crappy stuff and use your brain.

Rule 2) There is more then enough free info out there to make crazy money on the internet.

Rule 3) No one is going to give you their stuff that makes them huge coin, do it yourself, people do everyday

Rule 4) Treat it like a business

Rule 5) Network with others who MAKE money

I have onyl done CPL ( Cost Per Lead) using PPC (pay per click) and this was all in my extra time ( worked full time and goto school full time and have a girlfriend) haha so no excuses. Excuses dont make money.

Originally Posted by lazavas

i think u should send ur next cheque to them! hahahahahahaha

You Cracked Me up

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Of course there was a lot more great info like the source of traffic and split testing, the type of landing page...TRACKING with Prosper202 That is Some solid Advice Right There!!!!

A quick note...

SEO is great and in my opinion should be implemented ONLY AFTER you've found a winner campaign and offer...

Think Of it...How would you know if the keyword your optimizing for is profitable or not???? It happened to Me and thank god I stopped with it.

SEO is for scaling your PPC campaigns..
You spend money first...(with PPC or paid traffic) find a profitable offer/campaign/ keyword then you go on optimizing for the engines with the money you earn...invest that in to your business...outsource..finding more sources of traffic..and potentially dominate the market for a winning keyword...

And I will Add...People Spend So much time and effort on optimizing for the engines just to find that their keyword doesn't convert...well time is money!

I've got to hand it to you mate! That is a nice sum and profit-wise also great! It just shows that being persistent pays off.

I've been online for quite a while and made some great cash from Financial Offers...like mortgages, loans debt and so on...Mainly with Networks where the advertiser (Lead buyer) bids for every generated lead...(It's not a typical CPA network) for those who are curious... A good one is called Lead Point, Obviously those are very competitive markets and Getting in isn't that easy...neither worth it these days...if you are new...hint - many CPA advertisers use These type of networks to create offers for you to promote...

I've used google adwords but stopped when clicks for these niches were just too high...back in early 2008. The First Google Slap. My SEO efforts still pay off.

Today I'm looking to expand a bit and looking to promote other CPA offers.
The Information was great....

Since every one is asking many questions I thought I'll chip in too...

I'd only like to know the network because of scrubbing issues...

I'll PM You...If you feel like answering cool...if not I understand - you might be overwhelmed with PM's

Nonetheless thanks for the great info.

P.S...You've got a Great Name :-)

Joel

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bioshift 15 years ago

Thanks for all the great tips in this thread! I've been stressed out about the serps for weeks if not months! Slow and f'n boring! I have been consulting for some local clients and making decent money, but, my god, I would love to get good at FB ads and PPC and loose the client stress.

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TJComer02

14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No WSO at all, I was on tihs forum a long time ago, before I made any $$$, now im just back to tell people it can happen and give some advice.

Rule 1) Stop buying crappy stuff and use your brain.

Rule 2) There is more then enough free info out there to make crazy money on the internet.

Rule 3) No one is going to give you their stuff that makes them huge coin, do it yourself, people do everyday

Rule 4) Treat it like a business

Rule 5) Network with others who MAKE money

I have onyl done CPL ( Cost Per Lead) using PPC (pay per click) and this was all in my extra time ( worked full time and goto school full time and have a girlfriend) haha so no excuses. Excuses dont make money.

I disagree with that. I am writing a WSO right now that will be out in a couple days that gives affilates a complete blueprint to make money with offline affiliate marketing, which is WAY, WAY, WAY more profitable than PPC or any other kinds of paid advertisement. Yes, you're right, most WSO's are junk but there are good ones, and some of them have given tips that turn newbies into experts in a short time.

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joelraitt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TJComer02

I disagree with that. I am writing a WSO right now that will be out in a couple days that gives affilates a complete blueprint to make money with offline affiliate marketing, which is WAY, WAY, WAY more profitable than PPC or any other kinds of paid advertisement. Yes, you're right, most WSO's are junk but there are good ones, and some of them have given tips that turn newbies into experts in a short time.

You know what man...my entire vie has changed as well...i was just angry at that point b/c all i saw was crap produced after crap.

some are good...i just disagree with people buying the same reformatted crap over and over with a different title...

so many people sell a 'system' that they have never used, or they have never made $ online i the first place...thats just criminal...

anyways, i have a whole knew view on this now...i may even write my own thing...any thoughts?

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TJComer02

14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

You know what man...my entire vie has changed as well...i was just angry at that point b/c all i saw was crap produced after crap.

some are good...i just disagree with people buying the same reformatted crap over and over with a different title...

so many people sell a 'system' that they have never used, or they have never made $ online i the first place...thats just criminal...

anyways, i have a whole knew view on this now...i may even write my own thing...any thoughts?

The ONLY reason I am writing a WSO (It will be a one time thing, trust me) is because there is NOT ONE SINGLE WSO out there with the methods I discuss. I would never write a wso on PPV or PPC, or anything else, because there's already helpful WSO's on those subjects. I say to anyone, if you know something that isn't really out there, then put it out there.

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joelraitt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TJComer02

The ONLY reason I am writing a WSO (It will be a one time thing, trust me) is because there is NOT ONE SINGLE WSO out there with the methods I discuss. I would never write a wso on PPV or PPC, or anything else, because there's already helpful WSO's on those subjects. I say to anyone, if you know something that isn't really out there, then put it out there.

Thats pretty cool man, I hope it works out for you...maybe even send a review copy my way and I'll give honest feedback.

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TJComer02

14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Thats pretty cool man, I hope it works out for you...maybe even send a review copy my way and I'll give honest feedback.

I will bro. PM me your email addy. So bro you are doing PPC only? No PPV/Media Buys? You're doing pretty good for PPC considering google is as moody as a woman going through menopause

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Ikextraprime

14 years ago

This has been a very interesting and informative thread. I am curious to know whether you are still making money from CPA now after over a year or have you moved on to other ideas and strategies.

Times change and things stop being profitable, is FB still a viable market? or is it shut for affiliates.

All the best to you and thanks for all the contributions.

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joelraitt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ikextraprime

This has been a very interesting and informative thread. I am curious to know whether you are still making money from CPA now after over a year or have you moved on to other ideas and strategies.

Times change and things stop being profitable, is FB still a viable market? or is it shut for affiliates.

All the best to you and thanks for all the contributions.

hey, thanks glad you liked it. yah i still make $ with cpa stuff but im focusing more on 'real business' that have assets and stuff now....longer term projects

FB = unlimited potencial really...id suggest using it to build targeted lists, and keep marketing/informing them ( think of ways to get free viral traffic to really do well)

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Archimedes

13 years ago

Right on Joel.

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No WSO at all, I was on tihs forum a long time ago, before I made any $$$, now im just back to tell people it can happen and give some advice.

Rule 1) Stop buying crappy stuff and use your brain.

Rule 2) There is more then enough free info out there to make crazy money on the internet.

Rule 3) No one is going to give you their stuff that makes them huge coin, do it yourself, people do everyday

Rule 4) Treat it like a business

Rule 5) Network with others who MAKE money

I have onyl done CPL ( Cost Per Lead) using PPC (pay per click) and this was all in my extra time ( worked full time and goto school full time and have a girlfriend) haha so no excuses. Excuses dont make money.

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infocraze

15 years ago

Thats great, all the best. But it does mean you have to invest a lot too to get a return plus profit. In terms of percentage, how much was your initial investment and return?

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by infocraze

Thats great, all the best. But it does mean you have to invest a lot too to get a return plus profit. In terms of percentage, how much was your initial investment and return?

At the start I was just profiting a little bit, 50 a day, 100 a day, then i hit a huge campaing, i was ready with about 12000 of credit card money!

I maxed that out in about 5 days, so I borrowed a bunch of money for cashflow so i could grow!

another tip, be prepared to move fast b/c opportunity is NOW not in 3 weeks when its to late

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by whitney01

great! I am really interested. I tried PPC before but its really hard to earn from it since I don't have downlines. can you just share us what are the sites you are talking about.. where we can earn also that amount per month? Or can you email me all the details about it?

Sorry man, I'm not really sure what you are trying to say or ask...if you ask me a specific question Id be able to help you...

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Richard Crooke 15 years ago

Wow, congrats on the success Joe. I became to frustrated with PPC, now I am looking to build list so I can make that average $1 per person on my list. I am working on a product to offer free, and in return ask them to opt in. The value will be huge, I plan to later charge for the product.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

At the start I was just profiting a little bit, 50 a day, 100 a day, then i hit a huge campaing, i was ready with about 12000 of credit card money!

I maxed that out in about 5 days, so I borrowed a bunch of money for cashflow so i could grow!

another tip, be prepared to move fast b/c opportunity is NOW not in 3 weeks when its to late

Now I know how you work, but if during your campaign , some problem occur out of your predict. I see PPC like a gamble, a little people can success, and others were lose.

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20092009

15 years ago

So are you using free trail type offers?

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dmayne

15 years ago

Wow that is really good. I am a little skeptical about dumping that kind of money before I got paid a few times. After all the 'scrubbing' posts I have read about and other crappy networks I would be afraid... hehe If you make it work my hat is off to you. I think I will go for the slow and steady.

Good luck to you though. Let us know when you actually get paid!

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Kenster

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dmayne

Wow that is really good. I am a little skeptical about dumping that kind of money before I got paid a few times. After all the 'scrubbing' posts I have read about and other crappy networks I would be afraid... hehe If you make it work my hat is off to you. I think I will go for the slow and steady.

Good luck to you though. Let us know when you actually get paid!

When you are doing traffic like that you dont really have to worry about scrubbing as much as staight up denial of earnings. Most scrubbing is from simple sumbits and happens because you have crap traffic or fake traffic such as incentivizing non-incentive offers.

Denial of commissions happens if you are doing blackhat type stuff or pure fraud. If he is doing straight up legit traffic, he will not have a problem getting commissions.

Remember, networks want to reward super affiliates because the networks are taking a piece of every conversion...thats how they make there money. There are tons of networks out there so networks keep affilaites happy so they dont go elsewhere. They would be shooting themsleves in the leg if they deny commissions so somebody bringing in legit traffic that is converting.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dmayne

Wow that is really good. I am a little skeptical about dumping that kind of money before I got paid a few times. After all the 'scrubbing' posts I have read about and other crappy networks I would be afraid... hehe If you make it work my hat is off to you. I think I will go for the slow and steady.

Good luck to you though. Let us know when you actually get paid!

haha yah man, some companies prentend to be big and all that, do a bit of research, if you PM me i can tell you my network...and trust me they pay me...every friday it gets wired to my account

just checked...about 17 g's coming my way for Monday!! ( about 6-7000 profit)

NEVER GIVE UP!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

haha yah man, some companies prentend to be big and all that, do a bit of research, if you PM me i can tell you my network...and trust me they pay me...every friday it gets wired to my account

just checked...about 17 g's coming my way for Monday!! ( about 6-7000 profit)

NEVER GIVE UP!

Hi, sorry i tried tro PM you but i don't have enough post count. I would love to know which network you use.

could you pleasre pm me or email me.

Great thread by the way, very very inspiring stuff from a lot of people. I guess you just have to stick till it kicks.

thanks,

frank.

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Pacman131

15 years ago

I agree with you! Especially in this type of market, remember we are in a recession right now. I would never risk $10k in my bank account, that's just me though. Say you made $40k, you just never know if that network will pay you that. Things could crash for that network in one day.

I'll go the safe way and make money through regular SEO.

Originally Posted by dmayne

Wow that is really good. I am a little skeptical about dumping that kind of money before I got paid a few times. After all the 'scrubbing' posts I have read about and other crappy networks I would be afraid... hehe If you make it work my hat is off to you. I think I will go for the slow and steady.

Good luck to you though. Let us know when you actually get paid!

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Pacman131

I agree with you! Especially in this type of market, remember we are in a recession right now. I would never risk $10k in my bank account, that's just me though. Say you made $40k, you just never know if that network will pay you that. Things could crash for that network in one day.

I'll go the safe way and make money through regular SEO.

This is a good attitude for those of us willing to manage the risk because it leaves more room in the market space. Sounds like you have had made up your mind but here are a few points to consider. Work with reputable CPA Networks, Quality Traffic Sources and Legitimate Offers and you have mitigated the majority of your risk. This is not a set and forget business model it needs to be actively managed. Next setup a business entity like an LLC or Corporation to legally shield your personal assets from your business dealings. Lastly always, always, always look before you leap and use your head.

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joelraitt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by 20092009

So are you using free trail type offers?

No man i do not do free trials...although my stuf cost the end user nothing...hint hint CPL
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20092009

15 years ago

He should have NO PROBLEM at all getting paid.

Guys, this is this business... And to be totally honest, he's making money... But nothing at all compared to a huge amount of other guys. He's on the right track.

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Kenster

15 years ago

Originally Posted by 20092009

He should have NO PROBLEM at all getting paid.

Guys, this is this business... And to be totally honest, he's making money... But nothing at all compared to a huge amount of other guys. He's on the right track.

Ahhhh...but going from $500 per day to $5000 a day is much easier than going from $0 per day to $100 per day.

Hes right around the corner from the big numbers. Literally one tweak in his campaign will do it! Im hoping hes got multiple campaigns running though!

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by 20092009

He should have NO PROBLEM at all getting paid.

Guys, this is this business... And to be totally honest, he's making money... But nothing at all compared to a huge amount of other guys. He's on the right track.

Totally true man, im just scratching the surface....one of my best buddies makes over 100K a month...its sick. talk about motivation. were flying to AdTech in New York at the start of November...any of you guys going?

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hotftuna

15 years ago

Congrats joelraitt-
I promote a super competitive niche and ppc costs are sky-high- I have stayed away from ppc.

Maybe it's time to find another niche and diversify with a ppc campaign.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by hotftuna

Congrats joelraitt-
I promote a super competitive niche and ppc costs are sky-high- I have stayed away from ppc.

Maybe it's time to find another niche and diversify with a ppc campaign.

Think outside the box my friend...i have no keywords, or any of that crap...its to intense. Find easier traffic to pay for...what the biggest out there? Come on Im pretty much telling you!

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CynCyn

15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Think outside the box my friend...i have no keywords, or any of that crap...its to intense. Find easier traffic to pay for...what the biggest out there? Come on Im pretty much telling you!

No keywords....wah?! Image ad on content network? C'mon just tell us :p

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joelraitt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by CynCyn

No keywords....wah?! Image ad on content network? C'mon just tell us :p

haha forget about google for now, and forget about msn and forget about yahoo....its eaier then that...take more guesses...ill let it slip
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- CynCyn 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by joelraitt
  
  haha forget about google for now, and forget about msn and forget about yahoo....its eaier then that...take more guesses...ill let it slip
  
  Gotta love guessing games...but I think I KNOW what it is!
  
  Hmm....Facebook?
  
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  Originally Posted by CynCyn
  
  Gotta love guessing games...but I think I KNOW what it is!
  
  Hmm....Facebook?
  
  No.......well maybe.....yea....I just revealed my traffic source...oh well 99% of you wont even take action....dont let it be you!
  
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15 years ago

Great work..Best of luck..

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lazavas

15 years ago

i dont think people should be asking for niches etc, but myself would be curious as to the advertising method, i would never ask for niche though hahahaha

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Kenster

15 years ago

whether you are doing MEDIA BUYING, ppc, free methods, you can make a ton of money using any type of traffic. It would do yourself more good to just settle down, pick a traffic source and go with it, than to try and weasel as much info out of Joel as you can.

Set your own destiny

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amadi

15 years ago

That's impressive!

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joelraitt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by amadi

That's impressive!

Thanks...lol but its not THAT great!
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Olga Schipilow

15 years ago

Congratulaion! Maybe some day I will be so lucky.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Olga Schipilow

Congratulaion! Maybe some day I will be so lucky.

haha luck had nothing to do with it! Guys, Ill seriously answer some questions...this is your chance...not going to do this forever. just feel like I should help out a bit.

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blingblam

15 years ago

alright, since I'm down about $500 this week on media buys I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong...maybe you can help.

I'm guessing you're either doing Media Buys or PPV. Are you direct linking to the offer or using your own landing page? I'm about to start a direct linking campaign doing media buys, but I need an offer that will convert. I'm looking either at Netflix or Debt Help.

Would you recommend just blasting my offer on all sites, or target my campaign to people who I think will be interested in these offers. I find that when I laser target my campaigns I don't get too much traffic...so I'm thinking to go with the shotgun approach.

Any info you can give me either in a pm or this thread would be really helpful. I gotta start making a profit though =/.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by blingblam

alright, since I'm down about $500 this week on media buys I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong...maybe you can help.

I'm guessing you're either doing Media Buys or PPV. Are you direct linking to the offer or using your own landing page? I'm about to start a direct linking campaign doing media buys, but I need an offer that will convert. I'm looking either at Netflix or Debt Help.

Would you recommend just blasting my offer on all sites, or target my campaign to people who I think will be interested in these offers. I find that when I laser target my campaigns I don't get too much traffic...so I'm thinking to go with the shotgun approach.

Any info you can give me either in a pm or this thread would be really helpful. I gotta start making a profit though =/.

Netflix has huge potential. If you find the right traffic source, netflix converts like crazy.

But yes I would recommend targeting sites. If you have a huge budget to lose, then do a huge shotgun. This can be costly testing though, so if you are on a budget, go the targeting route.

The key is trying to find demographics that convert. Once you do this and find some sites that convert well...then go horizontal and find similar sites in terms of content and/or demographic.

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BobV 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Netflix has huge potential. If you find the right traffic source, netflix converts like crazy.

Hi Kenster,

What the heck is Netflix:confused:

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- rvrabel2002 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BobV
  
  Hi Kenster,
  
  What the heck is Netflix:confused:
  
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  What the heck is Netflix:confused:
  
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  Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan
  
  This is a joke, right?
  
  lol Hey Guys not everybody in this forum is from the USA lol
  
  Any other networks than CX Digital and CPA Empire who offer netflix campaigns?
  
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joelraitt

15 years ago

Dont worry about the 500, as long as you are learning, its an investment. I have been there.

Are you using your own creatives for ads? Or the ones they give you? I dont have a huge amount of experiance with media buys...but i know a bit. Whats your CTR?

id say start out targeted...and only put $ where you think you have the best chance of at leas breaking even...then tweak to make it profitable.
Its easy to get lots of data when you are breaking even, cuz it cost nothing, so you can test and make it work.

If you can make it work then take it as wide as possible. And start elminating sites from there.

Im not sure about those 2 offers your thinking of, people are making money in both, but remeber some of these guys buy millions and millions of impressions a day and get cheaper traffic then you and they are prob getting a higher payout then you. so you cant compete going wide right away.

have you asked for a pay increase to test the offer? they will give it to you.

honestly, look at what other people are doing and steal from them, and then make it better. that is the only real chance on offers like that.

seriously every single thing matters, and you can only test 1 variable at a time. so take your time, get it to break even, and then test to profit from there.

overall, your better off making a little bit slowly now ( so you have money to test other stuff) then risk 500 or so not knowing if you are going to make $.

you are not in th business of RISKING $ or gambeling large somes. Limit your risk and increase your chances of winning.

i hope this helps. any other questions.

Originally Posted by blingblam

alright, since I'm down about $500 this week on media buys I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong...maybe you can help.

I'm guessing you're either doing Media Buys or PPV. Are you direct linking to the offer or using your own landing page? I'm about to start a direct linking campaign doing media buys, but I need an offer that will convert. I'm looking either at Netflix or Debt Help.

Would you recommend just blasting my offer on all sites, or target my campaign to people who I think will be interested in these offers. I find that when I laser target my campaigns I don't get too much traffic...so I'm thinking to go with the shotgun approach.

Any info you can give me either in a pm or this thread would be really helpful. I gotta start making a profit though =/.

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blingblam

15 years ago

Hey Joelraitt,
I'm actually doing text ads right now. My Overall CTR isn't great at all, it's 0.015%. But I'm getting over 1 million impressions per day right now, which usually gets me about 100-200 clicks.

Out of those clicks, before this Friday, I had a 1 out of about 50 conversion rate. About a 13% CTR from my landing page to the Offer Landing Page. From the offer landing page I had about a 15-25% conversion rate.

So it was starting to do pretty well... and I just figured I could start making profits of about 10-20 cents per click if I left everything the way it was...

Then Bam. Thursday night rolls around and my conversions start to drop dramatically. Friday comes and I can only get 1 conversion out of 190 clicks. And today, I don't even have one conversion to show for 150 clicks. Ridiculous.

I just have no idea what's going on. I already got a payout bump from my AM for both offers, so I'm getting paid the max I can right now. But you're right, these other guys have money to throw at this...

I just want to know why an offer would convert one day and then all of a sudden drop off. Just the nature of the business I guess... but I still see other people promoting the exact same thing.

Thanks again for all the info and advice.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by blingblam

Hey Joelraitt,
I'm actually doing text ads right now. My Overall CTR isn't great at all, it's 0.015%. But I'm getting over 1 million impressions per day right now, which usually gets me about 100-200 clicks.

Out of those clicks, before this Friday, I had a 1 out of about 50 conversion rate. About a 13% CTR from my landing page to the Offer Landing Page. From the offer landing page I had about a 15-25% conversion rate.

So it was starting to do pretty well... and I just figured I could start making profits of about 10-20 cents per click if I left everything the way it was...

Then Bam. Thursday night rolls around and my conversions start to drop dramatically. Friday comes and I can only get 1 conversion out of 190 clicks. And today, I don't even have one conversion to show for 150 clicks. Ridiculous.

I just have no idea what's going on. I already got a payout bump from my AM for both offers, so I'm getting paid the max I can right now. But you're right, these other guys have money to throw at this...

I just want to know why an offer would convert one day and then all of a sudden drop off. Just the nature of the business I guess... but I still see other people promoting the exact same thing.

Thanks again for all the info and advice.

Hey man, good questions.

1) What area are you promoting? Like are you getting people to bring out their credit cards? What kind on information are you getting form them to complete the CPA?

2) Your LP, your AD, along with the actually LP of the offer determines you overal convertions rate. It all matters for convertions.

3) Are you split testing your Landing Pages, you need your CTR at least above 40%, 60% is better. I am on my 7th split test for 2 on my capaigns. Each time I built a better LP. Thats more $ for me. And could be for you.

4) I always heard people say test at last 100 clicks...but on large demographics, or large keywords...100 clicks is nothing. If the campain in close to break een I like to run at least 500, maybe 1000 clicks to it over 2-3 days. I have had offers mak3 money every day but Sat and Sun. So its weird. Watch for patterns.

5) I had the exact same problem man, convertions, then non, id make money, then lose money. It cuold just be your ttype of offer. I asked my AM and he said it was known to be streaky. But if you work on your LP and your AD's to make it good enough then 1 day you only make 100, the next you make 500...rather then -100 or +50...? You know?

6) Good work getting the first pay bump.

7) Just remember, every extra CTR %, either on your ad or LP it MORE MONEY. More average earning per click ( Ave epc) which means you can bid more, wihc mean you can get more traffic, which means you can make .1 cent on 10000 clicks tahter then .3 on 100, or w/e. In the end you want to go WIDE. More poeple you serve the more $ you make.

Good luck man, your on the right path. I hope I answered it all.

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blingblam

15 years ago

Wow thanks for all the info bro.
Right now I'm promoting the teeth whitening vertical... people get charged about $4 for shipping and handling and get a free trial. They need to give their credit card numbers + address info.

I didn't think the initial ad mattered too much for conversions. I always thought it was just meant to draw the reader to your landing page.

I have to start split testing landing pages, but I don't know how to do it except manually. I don't think I could use google optimizer because it goes to an affiliate offer.

Yea, I think it could be just the days I'm doing it on. Weekdays seemed alright... and I thought weekends would be even better. I was thinking that there might be a glitch with conversions or something (but that seems highly unlikely).

Wow, 40% to 60% CTR from landing page seems amazing. I guess I just have to tweak my landing page to get a higher CTR... Is there an easier way of split testing lp's? Or do I just create new campaigns for each Landing Page and test them that way?

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Hey man, good questions.

1) What area are you promoting? Like are you getting people to bring out their credit cards? What kind on information are you getting form them to complete the CPA?

2) Your LP, your AD, along with the actually LP of the offer determines you overal convertions rate. It all matters for convertions.

3) Are you split testing your Landing Pages, you need your CTR at least above 40%, 60% is better. I am on my 7th split test for 2 on my capaigns. Each time I built a better LP. Thats more $ for me. And could be for you.

4) I always heard people say test at last 100 clicks...but on large demographics, or large keywords...100 clicks is nothing. If the campain in close to break een I like to run at least 500, maybe 1000 clicks to it over 2-3 days. I have had offers mak3 money every day but Sat and Sun. So its weird. Watch for patterns.

5) I had the exact same problem man, convertions, then non, id make money, then lose money. It cuold just be your ttype of offer. I asked my AM and he said it was known to be streaky. But if you work on your LP and your AD's to make it good enough then 1 day you only make 100, the next you make 500...rather then -100 or +50...? You know?

6) Good work getting the first pay bump.

7) Just remember, every extra CTR %, either on your ad or LP it MORE MONEY. More average earning per click ( Ave epc) which means you can bid more, wihc mean you can get more traffic, which means you can make .1 cent on 10000 clicks tahter then .3 on 100, or w/e. In the end you want to go WIDE. More poeple you serve the more $ you make.

Good luck man, your on the right path. I hope I answered it all.

Joel

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by blingblam

Wow thanks for all the info bro.
Right now I'm promoting the teeth whitening vertical... people get charged about $4 for shipping and handling and get a free trial. They need to give their credit card numbers + address info.

I didn't think the initial ad mattered too much for conversions. I always thought it was just meant to draw the reader to your landing page.

I have to start split testing landing pages, but I don't know how to do it except manually. I don't think I could use google optimizer because it goes to an affiliate offer.

Yea, I think it could be just the days I'm doing it on. Weekdays seemed alright... and I thought weekends would be even better. I was thinking that there might be a glitch with conversions or something (but that seems highly unlikely).

Wow, 40% to 60% CTR from landing page seems amazing. I guess I just have to tweak my landing page to get a higher CTR... Is there an easier way of split testing lp's? Or do I just create new campaigns for each Landing Page and test them that way?

Thanks again

Well if your doing teeth whitening...your ctr will prob be a bit lower then that b/c of th eneed for a credit card to pay. it sketches people out. are you runing it on google? id be carful man, they might ban you. and when they ban you, you basically need a new life to start up with them again.

as for split testing just search for a .php split testing script, its actually like 6 lines of code or less. real simple.

what program do you use to track everything right now? i hope its tracking 202...or prosper 202

you got to be doing all this stuff man, the internet does not just dump piles of money on anyone who makes a link. thats why 97% of affilaites fail ( guessed that number) b/c they dont do the work. and follow the system.

good luck bro

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

5) I had the exact same problem man, convertions, then non, id make money, then lose money. It cuold just be your ttype of offer. I asked my AM and he said it was known to be streaky.

yes take it for granted:
nobody is ever going to scrape or shave you
and nobody is spying on you
and nobody is taking over
and nobody has very clever secret ideas .. to take over your money

all people are honest and only want to help you succeed

..thas what I love in internetmarketing..

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joelraitt

12 years ago

Originally Posted by frank-germany

yes take it for granted:
nobody is ever going to scrape or shave you
and nobody is spying on you
and nobody is taking over
and nobody has very clever secret ideas .. to take over your money

all people are honest and only want to help you succeed

..thas what I love in internetmarketing..

Frank

was this a creative way to market the products in your signature? haha

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JayInOrlando

15 years ago

Would love to try promoting a product on FaceBook.. have you ever tried anything in the diet areas?

Seems like most facebook stuff is ring tones, or txt quizzes.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Ummm I have not done dieting, or txt quizzes...facebook doesnt like that, no rebills aloud....although...it can be done. I have done it, but not worth getting your account banned!

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Would love to try promoting a product on FaceBook.. have you ever tried anything in the diet areas?

Seems like most facebook stuff is ring tones, or txt quizzes.

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Preben Frenning

15 years ago

Wow! So much useful info here!
Thanks to everyone who have contributed here =)

Anyways, I think you are running a dating offer using facebook ads... Am I right? :p
At least I've heard people are making big money doing it.
Also, in competitive niches (as in $3+ per click in adwords), they have high payouts, and cost a lot per click if you're playing with the big guys like google. Hence, if you go for facebook and other kinds of sources NOT using keywords, but instead trying to hit the right demographics, you can get your clicks WAY cheaper.

Although it's a bit less targeted, it still has loads more potential.
Now, I haven't tried out a whole lot yet, but I realize I should. PPC and media buys are extremely fast, and if done right, it can be quick profits too. (Or quick losses!)

Btw, do you use your own landing page with an opt-in form or just a normal non-opt-in landing page?

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P.S. Which CPA network do you use? You said you get paid every friday, which would be awesome!

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blingblam

15 years ago

Hi Preben,
I can't speak for the OP but I know certain networks payout weekly if you generate about 1k revenue per day. I can give you a referral to the network I'm talking about if you want... just send me a pm.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by blingblam

Hi Preben,
I can't speak for the OP but I know certain networks payout weekly if you generate about 1k revenue per day. I can give you a referral to the network I'm talking about if you want... just send me a pm.

Many times you dont even need to be doing that much traffic. Just speak with your affiliate manager. If you have been with the network for a while and have good legit traffic, networks are normally pretty flexible with payouts.

What they are mostly worrying about it blackhat or fraudsters doing a bunch of traffic and getting paid commissions and then the advertiser on the back end getting mad the leads arent converting. If youre legit, they want to work with you as much as possible.

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CynCyn

15 years ago

Awesome, I'm going to fire off some questions for you while question period is still on!

1. Ok if it's Facebook - Do you have any secret tips to getting ads approved? Back when I was using them, it was really annoying trying to get my ads approved. It seemed completely random based on whatever they felt like at the moment. I even made my ads look like the ads that were up. Sometimes they'd disapprove 1 ad, and then a few hours later, approve the SAME ad (this was for dating).

I don't know if the platform has changed much.

2. Know any way to get $100 ad credit? There was some promotion going on, but the codes don't work anymore.

3. What is your avg CPC?

4. Obviously I'm not going to ask you for your exact niche but HOW did you settle on a niche? Did you ask your AM what was doing well, and just went from there & rotated offers?

5. Are you targeting based on interests from people's profiles, and/or targeting a general demographic like males in US, 25-49?

ps. you are doin a great thing here helping people out! you rock and deserve to be super duper rich :p

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by CynCyn

Awesome, I'm going to fire off some questions for you while question period is still on!

1. Ok if it's Facebook - Do you have any secret tips to getting ads approved? Back when I was using them, it was really annoying trying to get my ads approved. It seemed completely random based on whatever they felt like at the moment. I even made my ads look like the ads that were up. Sometimes they'd disapprove 1 ad, and then a few hours later, approve the SAME ad (this was for dating).

I don't know if the platform has changed much.

2. Know any way to get $100 ad credit? There was some promotion going on, but the codes don't work anymore.

3. What is your avg CPC?

4. Obviously I'm not going to ask you for your exact niche but HOW did you settle on a niche? Did you ask your AM what was doing well, and just went from there & rotated offers?

5. Are you targeting based on interests from people's profiles, and/or targeting a general demographic like males in US, 25-49?

ps. you are doin a great thing here helping people out! you rock and deserve to be super duper rich :p

You are wasting your time with facebook ads,the only way to make any decent money on facebook is with facebook apps.

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joelraitt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by ben565

You are wasting your time with facebook ads,the only way to make any decent money on facebook is with facebook apps.

I jut got in form a hockey game, and Im super tired...ill answer all the questions tommorow...but i just had to say that ben...you are wrong. well...whats your idea of decent?

ill answer the rest tommorow in the AM when i get up. may sleep in.
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Many times you dont even need to be doing that much traffic. Just speak with your affiliate manager. If you have been with the network for a while and have good legit traffic, networks are normally pretty flexible with payouts.

What they are mostly worrying about it BlueFart or fraudsters doing a bunch of traffic and getting paid commissions and then the advertiser on the back end getting mad the leads arent converting. If youre legit, they want to work with you as much as possible.

True, depends on the network and how much rev they THINK you can do. Tell them you weeklies would help you grow faster b/c funds are a little tight. Say youll be able to test more, faster and when you do hit a big campain it will help with cashflow.

All of this is true. And they want to hear it.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Preben Frenning

Wow! So much useful info here!
Thanks to everyone who have contributed here =)

Anyways, I think you are running a dating offer using facebook ads... Am I right? :p
At least I've heard people are making big money doing it.
Also, in competitive niches (as in $3+ per click in adwords), they have high payouts, and cost a lot per click if you're playing with the big guys like google. Hence, if you go for facebook and other kinds of sources NOT using keywords, but instead trying to hit the right demographics, you can get your clicks WAY cheaper.

Although it's a bit less targeted, it still has loads more potential.
Now, I haven't tried out a whole lot yet, but I realize I should. PPC and media buys are extremely fast, and if done right, it can be quick profits too. (Or quick losses!)

Btw, do you use your own landing page with an opt-in form or just a normal non-opt-in landing page?

Thanks,
Preben

P.S. Which CPA network do you use? You said you get paid every friday, which would be awesome!

Hey man, naw man i dont make much with dating...look at the ad board on facebook for a single male, its all dating. you can make coin, but your ad better be sick, and your offer better pay well. then you can make a few cents a click. other stuff is better.

i have to think about if i want to give away my network on here...i only get paid every friday cuz i was doing decent volume. but it was not that hard to get it.

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Originally Posted by Preben Frenning

P.S. Which CPA network do you use? You said you get paid every friday, which would be awesome!

My AM at Copeac told me when I joined that they could wire daily if I did greater than $1K a day in revenue. I imagine if you have an AM, just talk to them about more frequent payouts. If your making them serious bling, they will change the rules of the game for you. I know they can typically change the payout as wells as the terms and conditions if the deal is right and traffic is legit.
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15 years ago

Congrats DUDE! How long have you been at this? For somone like me, new to the IM game, I am aware of he huge learning curve. When did you start getting serious about this field (not just this one PPC)? How many hours per week did you average in research and learning? Did you hav a mentor?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by MattSteel

Congrats DUDE! How long have you been at this? For somone like me, new to the IM game, I am aware of he huge learning curve. When did you start getting serious about this field (not just this one PPC)? How many hours per week did you average in research and learning? Did you hav a mentor?

Thanks for the post!

Thanks man, umm well I have always wanted a business, so I have read bi books and stuff like that since i was 18, im 23 now.

I got into the internet lightly less then a year ago. and i signed up for my first network in june i think. I was denied my application, and had to call and pretty much had to beg to get approved.

i pretty much started doing ppc then, with all sorts of traffic and offers, then found a combo that works good for me.

i spent ALOT of time, id work 8 hours a day at my job for 15 bucks an hour...then 5-10 hours after that working on the internet, learning, practicing, testing and all that.

its cool though, i still work part time at my job....but i make more in a day profit then i do in 2 weeks FULL time at work...lol well sometimes only do a weeks profit in a day...but still...i show upto work and have made more already then i do working the whole day.

yah i had a "mentor" if you can call him that, hes like one of my best friends now, we hang and party all the time. were actually going to NY together for a internet convention at the start of Nov.

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sp33dr4ge99 15 years ago

Joel,

Just found this thread and realized your doing FB ads. I just got into them 2 weeks ago ( I am already having good success in the 3 major search engines)

My problem is with facebook they seem to serve my CPM traffic in surges literally by the hour and right at the same time every hour then turn it off and wait again until the next hour.

It's been a real challenge to find converting offers... most are just break even, but I find that with a lander telling them what they need to do seems to convert a bit more.
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Kenster

15 years ago

Google will typically only care if you are directing people straight to the landing page. If you funnel the user through a few pages, yes conversions will suffer a bit, but you will have no problems with google.

The key is that you want to provide value to the people who are searching for your keywords on google. Google is all about value and relevance. This means you cant just try and come right out and sell people on a rebill. This is not value because most rebills are sketchy and you arent offering any information, just trying to pitch a sale.

So you must create content that helps users out. Google is okay with you being an affiliate and okay with affiliates making money, but only if its valuable and/or relevant to the searcher.

So, focus on working with googles policies and focus on providing value. In the back of your mind you should always be thinking how you can make money, but the key to getting a good quality score and cheaper clicks is to not lose sight of the need to deliver value.

And yes, most affiliate fail because they aren't willing to put in the initial work. But those who do put in the work reap some serious rewards.

best of luck all!

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Google will typically only care if you are directing people straight to the landing page. If you funnel the user through a few pages, yes conversions will suffer a bit, but you will have no problems with google.

The key is that you want to provide value to the people who are searching for your keywords on google. Google is all about value and relevance. This means you cant just try and come right out and sell people on a rebill. This is not value because most rebills are sketchy and you arent offering any information, just trying to pitch a sale.

So you must create content that helps users out. Google is okay with you being an affiliate and okay with affiliates making money, but only if its valuable and/or relevant to the searcher.

So, focus on working with googles policies and focus on providing value. In the back of your mind you should always be thinking how you can make money, but the key to getting a good quality score and cheaper clicks is to not lose sight of the need to deliver value.

And yes, most affiliate fail because they aren't willing to put in the initial work. But those who do put in the work reap some serious rewards.

best of luck all!

Ummm...OK man, you seem pretty smart...are you running rebills on google? I seriously doubt it...can people? Yah, but it gets sketchy redirecting the links from the google reviewers and so on.

Anyways, good luck running rebills...how is charging people $80 14 days later then another 80+ every month with them not knowing providing value? Thats why google will ban your ass. Unless you have unreal techniqual skills, I would not try it.

And more pages does not mean les convertions...lol it could mean more if you make the right pages...there are no really general rules like that...it all depends...

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blingblam

15 years ago

Nah I'm not risking running the rebills on google. Too worried about the google slap...

I'm only doing media buys right now. No google stuff at all. But I have seen quite a few rebill landing pages on google's advertising network ( so not sure why they let some people do it and others can't).

I actually prefer doing media buys right now because the rules are a lot less stringent.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by blingblam

Nah I'm not risking running the rebills on google. Too worried about the google slap...

I'm only doing media buys right now. No google stuff at all. But I have seen quite a few rebill landing pages on google's advertising network ( so not sure why they let some people do it and others can't).

I actually prefer doing media buys right now because the rules are a lot less stringent.

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Yah its true...and they dont let people do rebills...you have to trick them by cloaking your links. I dont know how to do it on Google, you have to know your .php programming. Most people wouldnt even sell it to you.

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Preben Frenning

15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Yah its true...and they dont let people do rebills...you have to trick them by cloaking your links. I dont know how to do it on Google, you have to know your .php programming. Most people wouldnt even sell it to you.

I think this wordpress plugin does it. Affiliate Link Cloaker and URL Shortener - Wordpress plugin
I haven't tried it, but from the looks of it, it's supposed to cloak links from search engines.

@Jeff Scott - How do you make the email submit's pre-populated? (If that means it automatically fills in their email?)
Looks like you have a great plan there anyways

And how does the traffic regenerator work?/What does it do?
Also, I've heard that MSN adcenter is a bit underrated for CPA, and it looks as if CPV is "The new thing" :p

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Jeff S 15 years ago

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@Jeff Scott - How do you make the email submit's pre-populated? (If that means it automatically fills in their email?)

Good question...some networks allow you to do "pre-pops" which is pre-population of the ZIP or EMAIL field. Every network is going to be different, but it's basically a variable in the URL (no different than a SubId). For instance, Flux mainly uses "em" so the link would be similar to:

domain.com/offer.html&em=noway@jose.com

I use AWeber for list management, so I capture the email on my side into my autoresponder series, then push out to the link and populate the email form on the advertiser's site. That way they only need to click the submit button (it would be weird user experience to enter your email twice)

And how does the traffic regenerator work?/What does it do?

Check out TrafficRegenerator.com and you can see what the intent is...basically as people are leaving your site it does a page curl, drop down, etc. This is highly recommended by Gauher Chaudhry, and conceptually it makes sense, so I'm testing it out.

Also, I've heard that MSN adcenter is a bit underrated for CPA, and it looks as if CPV is "The new thing" :p

MSN is decent, just don't expect floods of traffic. If something is profitable, then use it...I don't care if I make $1 or $100 from it...as long as my ROI is what I want then I'm fine. CPV has been around for awhile, it's just starting to get more products created by "gurus" which is why you're hearing more about it now (my guess anyway)
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Professor Chaos

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Yah its true...and they dont let people do rebills...you have to trick them by cloaking your links. I dont know how to do it on Google, you have to know your .php programming. Most people wouldnt even sell it to you.

Nope.. Your totally wrong..

Google let's you advertise rebills.. Don't believe me?

Just google " force factor" - first ad will have a 14 day free trial
And if you google "force factor free trial" the first ad will take you directly to the offer page..

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Professor Chaos

Nope.. Your totally wrong..

Google let's you advertise rebills.. Don't believe me?

Just google " force factor" - first ad will have a 14 day free trial
And if you google "force factor free trial" the first ad will take you directly to the offer page..

You're right Chaos.

I was more thinking of the sketchy landing pages like blogs or news landing pages....rebills are definitely fine when done like that, even on Facebook most of the time!

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Ummm...OK man, you seem pretty smart...are you running rebills on google? I seriously doubt it...can people? Yah, but it gets sketchy redirecting the links from the google reviewers and so on.

Anyways, good luck running rebills...how is charging people $80 14 days later then another 80+ every month with them not knowing providing value? Thats why google will ban your ass. Unless you have unreal techniqual skills, I would not try it.

And more pages does not mean les convertions...lol it could mean more if you make the right pages...there are no really general rules like that...it all depends...

You can ABSOLUTELY run rebills on google you just cant come right out and do it. You dont have to trick anybody, you just have to front your campaigns with useful content. The actual offer has to be downstream a bit.

And YES, many rebills are completely sketch and not legit. The two that I do are perfectly legit and are a good product and the other one a good service....its not a sketchy no-way-to-cancel **** product or something. Before you start bashing I would get the facts straight.

And no I dont have crazy technical skills. Just a bit of creativity and great work ethic.

Yes, if you are funneling visitors through more pages, in general IT DOES sacrifice conversions. This IS a general rule but as you said it is not always the case. To help newbies out, I thought it appropriate to explain that in general, if you are leading prospects from one page to another to another, at each step normally more people drop out of your funnel. Of course the more pages doesnt always mean less ocnversions because then you would never see a pre-sell page from a banner link.

And Google is perfectly fine with this process. I have open communication with a few of the reps and assuming you arent doing anything shady or deceiving people or doing sketchy offers (like most of the rebills), they are completely fine.

My point was that I am trying to teach newbies that there is still a way to make money honestly and legit via ppc.

best of luck all!

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

You can ABSOLUTELY run rebills on google you just cant come right out and do it. You dont have to trick anybody, you just have to front your campaigns with useful content. The actual offer has to be downstream a bit.

And YES, many rebills are completely sketch and not legit. The two that I do are perfectly legit and are a good product and the other one a good service....its not a sketchy no-way-to-cancel **** product or something. Before you start bashing I would get the facts straight.

And no I dont have crazy technical skills. Just a bit of creativity and great work ethic.

Yes, if you are funneling visitors through more pages, in general IT DOES sacrifice conversions. This IS a general rule but as you said it is not always the case. To help newbies out, I thought it appropriate to explain that in general, if you are leading prospects from one page to another to another, at each step normally more people drop out of your funnel. Of course the more pages doesnt always mean less ocnversions because then you would never see a pre-sell page from a banner link.

And Google is perfectly fine with this process. I have open communication with a few of the reps and assuming you arent doing anything shady or deceiving people or doing sketchy offers (like most of the rebills), they are completely fine.

My point was that I am trying to teach newbies that there is still a way to make money honestly and legit via ppc.

best of luck all!

The more practical way to do this is to cloak your LP with the offer page until your caught. Youll make more $$$$$. Why spend your money educating the visitor through 3-4 pages when your goal is to get them to whip out that CC on the merchant's page? There's NO point

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Kenster

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Cash37

The more practical way to do this is to cloak your LP with the offer page until your caught. Youll make more $$$$$. Why spend your money educating the visitor through 3-4 pages when your goal is to get them to whip out that CC on the merchant's page? There's NO point

I would rather spend the money educating my visitor if it means staying whitehat and playing by the rules. The point for my business is to create sustainability. For my business this includes keeping everything whitehat, mitigating risk, and creating multiple yet seperate income streams.

There is plenty of oppotunity for everybody to make tons of money whitehat, so whats the point in heading down the blackhat path. I would rather sleep well at night and thats why all the offers I now promote are good offers that I believe in. And this includes rebills, there are many good valuable rebills. Think about it for a while...not **** and bs like that but good rebills with no shady small print and hidden memberships that automatically get enrolled in.

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Cash37

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

]Google is okay with you being an affiliate

Bull****.

Excuse my french.

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Kenster

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Cash37

Bull****.

Excuse my french.

They make a ton from affiliate marketers. They just hate sketchy offers and directly selling people straight from the search engine.

Cash37, Try and work with the rules and I bet you will find some good things to come.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

They make a ton from affiliate marketers. They just hate sketchy offers and directly selling people straight from the search engine.

Cash37, Try and work with the rules and I bet you will find some good things to come.

best of luck

You'll get QS'd and eventually banned, period.

Google's organic rankings are becoming just as bad as well.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Cash37

You'll get QS'd and eventually banned, period.

Google's organic rankings are becoming just as bad as well.

That is completely false, period

If you arent doing a sketchy rebill and have everything legit as I said you will be fine. I have spoken with adwords reps often and they are fine with it. I have never been banned and dont plan on getting banned anytime soon. I am 100% transparent with adwords reps and they are 100% fine with it.

Without knowing what offer im doing, its pretty hard to credibly bash. If you are successfull at what your doing, good on you. Im going to continue what im doing.

As I have stressed, stay within googles TOS and you will be good to go.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

That is completely false, period

If you arent doing a sketchy rebill and have everything legit as I said you will be fine. I have spoken with adwords reps often and they are fine with it. I have never been banned and dont plan on getting banned anytime soon. I am 100% transparent with adwords reps and they are 100% fine with it.

Without knowing what offer im doing, its pretty hard to credibly bash. If you are successfull at what your doing, good on you. Im going to continue what im doing.

As I have stressed, stay within googles TOS and you will be good to go.

If you think Google cares about your little affiliate business, more power to you.

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Originally Posted by Cash37

You'll get QS'd and eventually banned, period.
Google's organic rankings are becoming just as bad as well.

I tried previously DL some google ppc campaigns but the CPC is too high and the QS too low.
But google still allows it (it's your choice).

On the other hand if you try it in Yahoo they don't allow it. They will disapprove your ad right away and won't run it at all. This only applies to certain offers though.
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15 years ago

That's impressive! Well done...yeah one question...how did you do that?

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15 years ago

Wow... Well done... I am a begnniner at CPA networks. Hope to be as successful as you guys

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15 years ago

Great job Joel. Its hard to believe though that you went from newbie to doing $60,000 in sales in one month. Did strategies and keywords all of a sudden pop into your head?

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by trafficguru

Great job Joel. Its hard to believe though that you went from newbie to doing $60,000 in sales in one month. Did strategies and keywords all of a sudden pop into your head?

Ummm...not really...just learned what ads people liked, if you read the thread youd know i dont use keywords...

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15 years ago

Thats great encouragement. 40,000 is a huge investment though.

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15 years ago

Hey Joel,

Congrats on your success. I've been in IM for awhile, but just starting to test out CPA via PPC. I'm testing my first Adwords->CPA offer right now....curious to get your feedback on my strategy, and then I have a few questions:

Strategy: Create new domain (with main keyword in domain), build various pages with content (pulled from eZineArticles) to help with Google QS, put in a Privacy policy, contact us, etc. Then create individual landing pages per traffic source so I can segment my tracking...I'm only testing Adwords search & content (and tracking via Excel, not 202 yet). I drive traffic to my page, capture email onto my list to do reoccurring marketing with similar offers, then send them to the main email submit offer (with email pre-populated). Also using a popular Traffic Regeneration script to capture the non-interested folks.

Questions for you:

1. Do you find it best to do the $4ish leads, or have you had luck with email/zip submits?
2. My FB ads just got disapproved, but it was because I was using traffic regenerator (not anymore). Any tips on FB ads (how you segment, best images to use, getting cheaper clicks, etc)
3. Can you tell me who you're mentor is/was? I think doing it yourself and testing is still the best, but it's always nice to have someone to guide you in the right direction
4. Outside of FB ads, any luck in Adwords, YSN, MSN adcenter, or CPV networks, or straight media buys?

Congrats again on taking action and finding that winning combination...time to diversify and scale up!

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff Scott

Hey Joel,

Congrats on your success. I've been in IM for awhile, but just starting to test out CPA via PPC. I'm testing my first Adwords->CPA offer right now....curious to get your feedback on my strategy, and then I have a few questions:

Strategy: Create new domain (with main keyword in domain), build various pages with content (pulled from eZineArticles) to help with Google QS, put in a Privacy policy, contact us, etc. Then create individual landing pages per traffic source so I can segment my tracking...I'm only testing Adwords search & content (and tracking via Excel, not 202 yet). I drive traffic to my page, capture email onto my list to do reoccurring marketing with similar offers, then send them to the main email submit offer (with email pre-populated). Also using a popular Traffic Regeneration script to capture the non-interested folks.

Questions for you:

1. Do you find it best to do the $4ish leads, or have you had luck with email/zip submits?
2. My FB ads just got disapproved, but it was because I was using traffic regenerator (not anymore). Any tips on FB ads (how you segment, best images to use, getting cheaper clicks, etc)
3. Can you tell me who you're mentor is/was? I think doing it yourself and testing is still the best, but it's always nice to have someone to guide you in the right direction
4. Outside of FB ads, any luck in Adwords, YSN, MSN adcenter, or CPV networks, or straight media buys?

Congrats again on taking action and finding that winning combination...time to diversify and scale up!

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1. Do you find it best to do the $4ish leads, or have you had luck with email/zip submits?

My first promo was email submits, I could never get cheap enough clicks with large enough demos to make it worth my time. Not on FB anyways.

2. My FB ads just got disapproved, but it was because I was using traffic regenerator (not anymore). Any tips on FB ads (how you segment, best images to use, getting cheaper clicks, etc)

Ummm...depending on the offer really, I like to make 2 or 3 ads per campaign all with same headline, but dif pictures or vise vera and then let them compete...1 ad usually pulls ahead of the rest. Pause the others.

3. Can you tell me who you're mentor is/was? I think doing it yourself and testing is still the best, but it's always nice to have someone to guide you in the right direction

Nope, I can't hes like one of my best friends now, noone really knows he does IM, so I cant say anything. And yah it helped so much to have his help. Unreal. Get a mentor somehow.

4. Outside of FB ads, any luck in Adwords, YSN, MSN adcenter, or CPV networks, or straight media buys?

I'm just stating to look into other traffic sources, I ahve done some smaller media buys and had OK success...I decided to master FB then move on. Im flying to NY for the Adtech convention to find new traffic.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

2. My FB ads just got disapproved, but it was because I was using traffic regenerator (not anymore). Any tips on FB ads (how you segment, best images to use, getting cheaper clicks, etc)

Ummm...depending on the offer really, I like to make 2 or 3 ads per campaign all with same headline, but dif pictures or vise vera and then let them compete...1 ad usually pulls ahead of the rest. Pause the others.

Thanks for your feedback Joel. Do you direct link from FB to the offer, or to your site first to capture email, presell, etc?

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Originally Posted by Jeff Scott

Thanks for your feedback Joel. Do you direct link from FB to the offer, or to your site first to capture email, presell, etc?

I usually test both, if the offer page looks good and has enough info ill try Dling, if not i build 2 lp's and start testing. I dont capture any emails anymore, although I should be...maybe ill start that up when i have time

thanks and good luck!

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Neil Barrett

15 years ago

This is for newbies

I think the OP is right you can make great money with PPC but if you don't know what you're doing it can suck money from you .. it's very easy to say you have to be prepared to lose $300 - $500 on a campaign but if you do that on 10 it's a lot of money.

If you don't know how to write a good ad, don't know how to split test and most importantly know how to track keywords and conversions so that you can get the cost per click down and throwaway non converting keywords then PPC can be very very difficult and costly. Just throwing money at a camapign does not mean it will work.

It obviously can and does work (or google wouldn't be the giants they are) but for Newbs you must be careful and know exactly what you are doing and what you need to know before you start.

I say all this from experience .. no one told me this information when I first started and I lost a fair bit before I understood how to make a profitable campaign

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Neil Barrett

This is for newbies

I think the OP is right you can make great money with PPC but if you don't know what you're doing it can suck money from you .. it's very easy to say you have to be prepared to lose $300 - $500 on a campaign but if you do that on 10 it's a lot of money.

If you don't know how to write a good ad, don't know how to split test and most importantly know how to track keywords and conversions so that you can get the cost per click down and throwaway non converting keywords then PPC can be very very difficult and costly. Just throwing money at a camapign does not mean it will work.

It obviously can and does work (or google wouldn't be the giants they are) but for Newbs you must be careful and know exactly what you are doing and what you need to know before you start.

I say all this from experience .. no one told me this information when I first started and I lost a fair bit before I understood how to make a profitable campaign

Totally agree...I lost $ at first to...not to much a few hundred...I have 2000 i was willing to invest in practice. My advice is to spend w/e amount you can on PPC and LEARN from testing rather then buying ebooks on warrior forum with that money and trying to nickle and dime your way to wealth with SEO.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

"Wow, congrats on the success Joe. I became to frustrated with PPC, now I am looking to build list so I can make that average $1 per person on my list. I am working on a product to offer free, and in return ask them to opt in. The value will be huge, I plan to later charge for the product."

I did the e-mail thing with SEO before, if anything build your list with PPC. GOod luck man, everyone finds there own way in the end...that just was not mine. Lots of people do it that way.

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kindsvater 15 years ago

Congrats.

Just make sure you're not overextended. That is - Google gets your money and then you don't later get paid. That would be devastating. It happens.

$45k in expenses to make $12k in income?

In the 'physical' world for many industries that would be a really good ROI. For online PPC, though, in my experience over the years that's really bad. BUT - that appears to be the future. One of the reasons PPC will continue to get harder and harder is because people are willing to accept lower ROI and/or they live in a country with a relatively low standard of living such that making $100 bucks is a lot more valuable than it is to people in other countries.

Seriously, though, good job.
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15 years ago

He's already said that it's FB ads.

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15 years ago

Joel thanks for sharing. I learn a lot from here.

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15 years ago

I wish I had a couple of affiliates like you promoting my products. Heck, I'd love just 1 half as good as you.

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simonj007

15 years ago

I've been running on FB since May and do approx $15,000/month in rev....7/8k is profit.
Great thread Joel,

I'm just looking to scale things now and wondered how many ads per campaign do you run? I've only targeted broad demographics too...not tried to narrow them down.

I'm running 4 campigns each with approx 20 ads for the $15k....

How does yours look for the $45k....many more?

PM me if you like..

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  Oh..great, do you use PPC to get visitors to your offer ?
  
  Again...dont ask questions without reading the thread...it waste my time and yours. If you want to make it in internet markinging you cant be to lazy to read a thread that pretty much shows you how i went from 27 revenues and like -300 income to now 80 000 revenue this money and almost 20,000 profit....
  
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by simonj007

I've been running on FB since May and do approx $15,000/month in rev....7/8k is profit.
Great thread Joel,

I'm just looking to scale things now and wondered how many ads per campaign do you run? I've only targeted broad demographics too...not tried to narrow them down.

I'm running 4 campigns each with approx 20 ads for the $15k....

How does yours look for the $45k....many more?

PM me if you like..

Regards,
Simon

Hey man, nice numbers!

It really changes all the time man, maybe 5 or 6 ads per campain? But then after like 30-40 million impressions they start to slow down. Just kind of keep going with w/e. When i hit an ad thats a gold mine...i just run with it...fewer awesome ads is better then lots of crapy ones i think.

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kirbymurphy

15 years ago

What is rebill?

My target narket is small businesses that need marketing and office services. Would FB be a viable ad platform or can anyone rec a better place to run ads?

Right now I'm coasting on a clean E-mail list and a few drop-ins on business boards but want to begin the ramp-up.

I thought about banners through AdBrite but haven't heard good or bad about them.

Thanks for the info gang!

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Originally Posted by robfoster

This is great from 27$ to such high ? I'm newbie and i'll need lots of help with stuff to make it more than that. You really good at methods you adopted.

All the help you need is free on the internet and asking other people. Anyone can do it. Just takes time, effort, some brains and maybe even a little luck.
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15 years ago

Hi RobFoster...There is huge money in cpa, you just need to put in some good work to get things going. Start reading and keep implementing and you will be fine...

welcome to cpa!

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15 years ago

What's the best way to get conversions in PPC...

As in is there a special way you should design your landing page? any tips or suggestions?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by divinewind

What's the best way to get conversions in PPC...

As in is there a special way you should design your landing page? any tips or suggestions?

Really just make it look legit, if you wouldnt sfill it out...no one else will...and always split test and keep improving your pages!

I keep them short with lots of bullet points, no need to type alot.

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KrisMainieri

15 years ago

Congrats on success yo!

I started at 16 (19 now) and have made hundreds of thousands with my own products... never messed with CPL/CPA. Never done FB with success... any advice for a newbie in this traffic field?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by KrisMainieri

Congrats on success yo!

I started at 16 (19 now) and have made hundreds of thousands with my own products... never messed with CPL/CPA. Never done FB with success... any advice for a newbie in this traffic field?

Nice work dude, what kind of products? As for facebook...and since you have the cash to test some stuff...pretend like you dont. You can lose cash fast, id set a small total test budget of like 1000, and only make ads you are almost possitive will make $, LP's the same, and offers the same.

dont just start throwing money around hoping to get lucky. that will get you in trouble.

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Oosha 15 years ago

Congrats!

I've had success with PPC, but I could never run a campaign for long even when it was profitable due to lack of funds. A minimum of $3000 - $4000 is needed to be able to cash in on a good campaign. You've motivated me enough to keep some money aside for PPC.

Let us know when you make a "profit" of $41,000.
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thuxen

15 years ago

Well done dude, you mentioned Costa Rica, if thats the network your referring to, then you've given that away too!

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seo2go

15 years ago

Great tread with lots of valuable info.

Great job Joel, and thanks for sharing your experiences so openly.

I'll be at Ad Tech also, would be great if i can meet and speak with you.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by cwillabus

Great tread with lots of valuable info.

Great job Joel, and thanks for sharing your experiences so openly.

I'll be at Ad Tech also, would be great if i can meet and speak with you.

Hey man, send me a PM with your Info, that be cool if we could meet up for a bit.

Later

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RichPargeter

15 years ago

Fantastic thread, thanks to everyone for their contribution. I've been trying this IM lark for 12 months now and haven't made much money.

After reading this thread I now feel more focused on what I want to achieve.

Cheers again guys.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by RichPargeter

Fantastic thread, thanks to everyone for their contribution. I've been trying this IM lark for 12 months now and haven't made much money.

After reading this thread I now feel more focused on what I want to achieve.

Cheers again guys.

Glad it helped a bit...just always ask yourself, are you doing enough? Your prob not at all.

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PMB

15 years ago

Thant is great that you are experiencing so much success now. I had a few questions though. What software did you use? Speed PPC, LP Gen, Keyword esp or what? Also, what did you start out with for your daily budget? I ask because at some point you must of looked at your ROI and figured what was acceptable for you in order to scale things up. Where did you find that point if your revenues where so low not so long ago. Did you have any profit back then? Where you running at a loss for a while then thing picked up? How many campaigns did you run? Thanks.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by PMB

Thant is great that you are experiencing so much success now. I had a few questions though. What software did you use? Speed PPC, LP Gen, Keyword esp or what? Also, what did you start out with for your daily budget? I ask because at some point you must of looked at your ROI and figured what was acceptable for you in order to scale things up. Where did you find that point if your revenues where so low not so long ago. Did you have any profit back then? Where you running at a loss for a while then thing picked up? How many campaigns did you run? Thanks.

Hey, good questions. I tried a lot of stuff till I found one that worked. I dont use any software, I do it all by hand. And I lost money at the start, but you need to sepnd $$ on testing to find what works.

I was happy with almost any ROI at the start, and then once you get on bi-weekly payments you dont have to worry about cash flow really...

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dozierdd

15 years ago

PPC has always scared me. But your convincing me to give it a try. Heck, I like money too.

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Originally Posted by dozierdd

PPC has always scared me. But your convincing me to give it a try. Heck, I like money too.

Just take the time to learn man. And only start with small tests.
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Johnny12345

15 years ago

Since the new, stricter FTC rules regarding affiliate marketing have been announced, do you do anything specific to comply?

For example, do you:

1) Use a disclaimer on your landing pages?
2) Avoid using fake blogs?
3) Avoid "sketchy" offers?
4) Other?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Johnny12345

Since the new, stricter FTC rules regarding affiliate marketing have been announced, do you do anything specific to comply?

For example, do you:

1) Use a disclaimer on your landing pages?
2) Avoid using fake blogs?
3) Avoid "sketchy" offers?
4) Other?

Johnny

I just dont run any of that stuff. So no need to worry for me.

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15 years ago

Great stuff, never tried PPC but will be on a list "to do"
thank you,

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JRecard 15 years ago

Thanks for all the amazing info Joel.
Awesome to see.

Heres to your sucess
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15 years ago

Re

venue means zilch yet that's all that is ever broadcast.

Still means zilch though it looks good on paper.

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SacredWealth

15 years ago

I don't know what all you experienced guys mean by "Revenue means Zero."

When you invest X amount of money and get Y return. Then X-Y should be your ROI.

Is that not the case?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by SacredWealth

I don't know what all you experienced guys mean by "Revenue means Zero."

When you invest X amount of money and get Y return. Then X-Y should be your ROI.

Is that not the case?

Ummm...well what they are saying is that if you say you have 100 in revenues, but you spent 200 to get it, then you lost 100 so the 100 in revenues means nothing...

i think people assumed thats what i was doing...which is rediculus...maybe i should have made the thread " How I went from -150 net loss to over $17,000 profit in 30 days with 90 000 in revenues...."

haha but w/e

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zhunzi

15 years ago

Finally finished reading this whole thread. Thanks so much for all the info in here. I haven't even looked at facebook and/or $4 CPL offers. I've never been inclined to buy anything on facebook myself (with the exception of some stuff from the games from zynga). I've never even been inclined to click those ads on the side. I guess I'm not your target market eh?

I've experimented a lot with google, but after reading through this thread I can see I was fighting a never ending battle with my rebill products. I actually got banned from one campaign I never even turned on (was a google biz kit)!! Had to do the whole IP/CC identity switch to get a new account. Sigh, freaking google!

So my experiments have been in the zip/email submit space ($1-2 range) and the rebill space ($30+ range). I've also experimented with the clickbank CPS models (all $10+). I guess there is a large world there in the middle that I've not even explored.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by zhunzi

Finally finished reading this whole thread. Thanks so much for all the info in here. I haven't even looked at facebook and/or $4 CPL offers. I've never been inclined to buy anything on facebook myself (with the exception of some stuff from the games from zynga). I've never even been inclined to click those ads on the side. I guess I'm not your target market eh?

I've experimented a lot with google, but after reading through this thread I can see I was fighting a never ending battle with my rebill products. I actually got banned from one campaign I never even turned on (was a google biz kit)!! Had to do the whole IP/CC identity switch to get a new account. Sigh, freaking google!

So my experiments have been in the zip/email submit space ($1-2 range) and the rebill space ($30+ range). I've also experimented with the clickbank CPS models (all $10+). I guess there is a large world there in the middle that I've not even explored.

Yah its true...i mean you just have to figure out what works best for you right. Im changing my game all the time, testing and moving around. The Internet doesnt just spit out money to anyone who wants it.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by SacredWealth

I don't know what all you experienced guys mean by "Revenue means Zero."

When you invest X amount of money and get Y return. Then X-Y should be your ROI.

Is that not the case?

ROI is a percentage so your formula above is not for return or ROI but rather for net profit. Net profit is the real important metric of success, not revenue alone or cost alone.

And yes that is the case, but revenue (x) means nothing without either the other variable of cost (y) or without your return (x-y)/x

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15 years ago

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zhunzi

15 years ago

This is pretty sweet. Thanks for sharing. Who are some ppc's you'd recommend if not google? Yahoo/bing?

I've had some success with adwords/LP and a colon cleanse CPA offer paying $32/lead. In 45 days I made 256 in revenue and spent about $60 in profit. Dealing with google was painful, and as much as I tweaked my campaigns I couldn't get the volume any higher, even with huge volume keyworks. Freaking google!!

I'm really curious where you got the traffic. If I could perfect that, I think I could break thru with this stuff.

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lazavas

15 years ago

sorry if this is a silly question and if it has already been answered but can u direct link to the offer in facebook? im not so good at building websites

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by lazavas

sorry if this is a silly question and if it has already been answered but can u direct link to the offer in facebook? im not so good at building websites

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Yah you an direct link with facebook. They dont care.

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15 years ago

It was probably a general comment about people always writing about revenue figures instead of net of profit figures. Everybody knows revenue means nothing as PPC Coach suggested.

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15 years ago

I could have sworn you mentioned this but I can't find it... Just looked at all your posts again.

Are you using cpm or ppc for your ads?

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Originally Posted by HDRider

I could have sworn you mentioned this but I can't find it... Just looked at all your posts again.

Are you using cpm or ppc for your ads?

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I have only used CPC no cpm at this time, but perhaps soon, its in the works.
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15 years ago

So, not knowing what might convert well on facebook, but trying to think of the demographics, this is what I'd probably want to test. You don't have to tell me what you're promoting, but if you've tested any of these and failed, let me know so I don't have the same curse!

educational products (grants, scholarships), dating (lots of singles on facebook), loan mods (probably a lot of folks in bad shape now in the 30+ age range)

email submits might work, but really depends on what the PPC costs are like.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

Done a bit of everyhting. Spend a couple hundred and figure it out! Remember its usually the affilaite that doesnt make it work...not the offer.

I could never get email or zips to work in FB though.

Good luck

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So, not knowing what might convert well on facebook, but trying to think of the demographics, this is what I'd probably want to test. You don't have to tell me what you're promoting, but if you've tested any of these and failed, let me know so I don't have the same curse!

educational products (grants, scholarships), dating (lots of singles on facebook), loan mods (probably a lot of folks in bad shape now in the 30+ age range)

email submits might work, but really depends on what the PPC costs are like.

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carnews

15 years ago

I am sure your success story is encouraging for many, as I am sure many would like... more details maybe? :-)

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by carnews

I am sure your success story is encouraging for many, as I am sure many would like... more details maybe? :-)

Really? Did you even read the thread? And to be honest Iv'e already given away to much. Every tip I give or idea adds more people for me to compete against.

Not to worried about it b/c 98% of you will always be lookers and not do'ers.

What do you want? My exact traffic source with my exact ad with my exact offer?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Really? Did you even read the thread? And to be honest Iv'e already given away to much. Every tip I give or idea adds more people for me to compete against.

Not to worried about it b/c 98% of you will always be lookers and not do'ers.

What do you want? My exact traffic source with my exact ad with my exact offer?

i think u should send ur next cheque to them! hahahahahahaha

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Really? Did you even read the thread? And to be honest Iv'e already given away to much. Every tip I give or idea adds more people for me to compete against.

Not to worried about it b/c 98% of you will always be lookers and not do'ers.

What do you want? My exact traffic source with my exact ad with my exact offer?

Have all of us who want it sign up under you, you give us the specs to fight over, and then you take your 5% cut off all our commissions while you're working on your next big thing. Rinse, repeat.

If not, it's just an idea, I'll figure it out eventually.

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15 years ago

lol well its not 5% its 2% usually. and i think id rather keep it allto myself. lol maybe when it dies out ill show you guys...then you can get the idea of a successful campain.

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Have all of us who want it sign up under you, you give us the specs to fight over, and then you take your 5% cut off all our commissions while you're working on your next big thing. Rinse, repeat.

If not, it's just an idea, I'll figure it out eventually.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

lol well its not 5% its 2% usually. and i think id rather keep it allto myself. lol maybe when it dies out ill show you guys...then you can get the idea of a successful campain.

That'd be cool too, even an idea that worked once is a good learning space for folks. I get lots of ideas from tricks that used to work but don't now. Just gets me in the right mindset.

Also, keep in mind the 2% is based off revenue. So your 80000 revenue would equate to 1600 in profit, and you had to do nothing. You just need 10 folks like that under you to completely replace your profit while you sit back and live the good life. In any case, I'd definitely have any of your mentees sign up under you to skim that 2%.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Really? Did you even read the thread? And to be honest Iv'e already given away to much. Every tip I give or idea adds more people for me to compete against.

Not to worried about it b/c 98% of you will always be lookers and not do'ers.

What do you want? My exact traffic source with my exact ad with my exact offer?

LOL... right on Joel... sic'em I am so tired of all the people asking for
someone to give up their hard earned money and time to spoon feed
them while they are not willing to put forth any effort to learn what they
need to learn ... how in the hell can they expect to create any type of
business whatsoever...

Thanks for all the info you have given in the thread, it is really packed full
off information, and if people would just read it all before asking what has
already been answered they would be a lot better off, and richer for the
experience...

rant over...

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by sligon00

LOL... right on Joel... sic'em I am so tired of all the people asking for
someone to give up their hard earned money and time to spoon feed
them while they are not willing to put forth any effort to learn what they
need to learn ... how in the hell can they expect to create any type of
business whatsoever...

Thanks for all the info you have given in the thread, it is really packed full
off information, and if people would just read it all before asking what has
already been answered they would be a lot better off, and richer for the
experience...

rant over...

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Haha thanks man, looking back I was a bit mad when I wrote that...try to not do that but it happens. Maybe 1 person will get a wake up call from it...

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15 years ago

OK guys, so I have had my inbox full of PM's wanting to be mentored, asking for my network, people willing to pay for help...im already mentoring a buddy right now, but I figure I could take on 2 more people and still have time to work on my own.

this is what i was thinking.

im thinking ( if it happens or not) the 10 day course would include:

1) a step by step guide on how to set up the system incuding -
a) my network
b) all the crazy little tricks about my traffic source that makes testing so much cheaper and easier
c) how to track and test everything ( must or you will fail)
d) other free programs and software i use and where to get it
e) other stuff
2) unlimited emails asking questions directly to me with daily responses
3) have my AIM or skype to chat and ask stuff
4) 1 phone call per day at a max of 30 minutes long

To be honest it doesnt matter to me if i do this or not, it would be nice to help a few people out...i figured out the comitment/time/effort to do all this for 2 people...

with my time being so valuable...but i also understand some of you are just starting out ( not much coin), i figured a fair figure would be $750 for full access to me and system and brain for the 10 days. 25% up front, then 50% at day 5, then 25% on completion. if you dont think it was worth it, ill give you the money back.

i will be selecting the 2 people so please pm some of your history and why i should pick you.

note: this is a rare chance....not sure if iw ill do it again...cant let everyone have these secrets, it wont be pretty ( as in the post above is typed fast and not edited) but it will work. if your serious about your business PM me why i should pick you.

perhaps a phone call before commitment would be a good idea as well. just to see if you even like me and i like you. if its not fun i wont do it.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

OK guys, so I have had my inbox full of PM's wanting to be mentored, asking for my network, people willing to pay for help...im already mentoring a buddy right now, but I figure I could take on 2 more people and still have time to work on my own.

this is what i was thinking.

im thinking ( if it happens or not) the 10 day course would include:

1) a step by step guide on how to set up the system incuding -
a) my network
b) all the crazy little tricks about my traffic source that makes testing so much cheaper and easier
c) how to track and test everything ( must or you will fail)
d) other free programs and software i use and where to get it
e) other stuff
2) unlimited emails asking questions directly to me with daily responses
3) have my AIM or skype to chat and ask stuff
4) 1 phone call per day at a max of 30 minutes long

To be honest it doesnt matter to me if i do this or not, it would be nice to help a few people out...i figured out the comitment/time/effort to do all this for 2 people...

with my time being so valuable...but i also understand some of you are just starting out ( not much coin), i figured a fair figure would be $750 for full access to me and system and brain for the 10 days. 25% up front, then 50% at day 5, then 25% on completion. if you dont think it was worth it, ill give you the money back.

i will be selecting the 2 people so please pm some of your history and why i should pick you.

note: this is a rare chance....not sure if iw ill do it again...cant let everyone have these secrets, it wont be pretty ( as in the post above is typed fast and not edited) but it will work. if your serious about your business PM me why i should pick you.

perhaps a phone call before commitment would be a good idea as well. just to see if you even like me and i like you. if its not fun i wont do it.

good luck to all!

I could have sworn you said that the guys really making the money do not sell their methods. Why the change of heart?

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Originally Posted by TommyBoy

I could have sworn you said that the guys really making the money do not sell their methods. Why the change of heart?

Umm nope I said my mentor doesnt, and he wouldnt share his **** either way...and im not selling some product to hundreds of noobs for $29, im selling my brain and ideas...its different...

ha and if you think im doing this for the money, think again my friend. but when you figure out your time is worth so much, you cant just waste it. youll learn that one day!
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15 years ago

12k in 21 days is 4k a week! Thats a good weeks pay no matter how much you spent on advertising.

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15 years ago

I'm sorry but spending 41k to make a 12k profit is not that good and I don't know why people are getting all crazy over this. I'm sorry to crash the party, but that's just a fact. If you're spending a crap load of money to make a 20% ROI, that's not good. In fact, anything less than a 100% ROI needs to be tweaked until it gets to 100%.

If you want to do well on facebook, stick to dating ads or e-mail submits. I was doing 300% ROI direct-linking e-mail submits. Then I started doing rebills and mobile and got banned

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by oscarkool

I'm sorry but spending 41k to make a 12k profit is not that good and I don't know why people are getting all crazy over this. I'm sorry to crash the party, but that's just a fact. If you're spending a crap load of money to make a 20% ROI, that's not good. In fact, anything less than a 100% ROI needs to be tweaked until it gets to 100%.

If you want to do well on facebook, stick to dating ads or e-mail submits. I was doing 300% ROI direct-linking e-mail submits. Then I started doing rebills and mobile and got banned

i agree its not spectacular, but its better then most, i know people making 6 figures a month, but are you going to be able to call them? email them? haha good luck.

and those numbers were just half the month....so doube it

No offence dude but id rather get 20% return on 80 000 spent...or 16,000 profit then 300% return on even 3000 spent or $9,000 profit.

just the way i found to work, there are hundreds of ways...ill gladly keep this one to myself...just trying to help out

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

i agree its not spectacular, but its better then most, i know people making 6 figures a month, but are you going to be able to call them? email them? haha good luck.

and those numbers were just half the month....so doube it

No offence dude but id rather get 20% return on 80 000 spent...or 16,000 profit then 300% return on even 3000 spent or $9,000 profit.

just the way i found to work, there are hundreds of ways...ill gladly keep this one to myself...just trying to help out

Hi Joel,

well done for all your achievements so far - if I get it right we're competing for the same place in the Costa Rica trip and I must say your results are pretty impressive.

I think that maintaining a 20% ROI with this kind of spend is pretty risky and you should seek to improve it as quickly as possible since from my experience traffic in Facebook is very unstable and your CTR can drop easily while the CPC rises.
My recommendation to you is to test tons of images - I've seen ads with the same targeting when one had a 0.1% CTR and the other one had a 0.8% CTR.
An ad with a CTR like that has easily reached a CPC of $0.04-0.05 => higher ROI. However, I'm pretty sure you're aware of that.

Anyway, good luck with the contest and who knows - maybe we'll see each other at Costa Rica :-)

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Johnny the Doe

Hi Joel,

well done for all your achievements so far - if I get it right we're competing for the same place in the Costa Rica trip and I must say your results are pretty impressive.

I think that maintaining a 20% ROI with this kind of spend is pretty risky and you should seek to improve it as quickly as possible since from my experience traffic in Facebook is very unstable and your CTR can drop easily while the CPC rises.
My recommendation to you is to test tons of images - I've seen ads with the same targeting when one had a 0.1% CTR and the other one had a 0.8% CTR.
An ad with a CTR like that has easily reached a CPC of $0.04-0.05 => higher ROI. However, I'm pretty sure you're aware of that.

Anyway, good luck with the contest and who knows - maybe we'll see each other at Costa Rica :-)

haha nice man, and yah I totally agree FB is up and down. images pretty much control the ctr, i agree. but they also mess with convertions a lot too. its a ballance game i guess...

thad be sick if you went to costa rica, im hoping i make it! are you on overal revenues or growth category?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

haha nice man, and yah I totally agree FB is up and down. images pretty much control the ctr, i agree. but they also mess with convertions a lot too. its a ballance game i guess...

thad be sick if you went to costa rica, im hoping i make it! are you on overal revenues or growth category?

later

I'm competing in the growth category and correct me if I'm wrong - so are you.

And about Facebook - it's all about the arbitrage - if your CPC is lower than the EPC - great. If not - pause the ad and test other copies.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Johnny the Doe

I'm competing in the growth category and correct me if I'm wrong - so are you.

And about Facebook - it's all about the arbitrage - if your CPC is lower than the EPC - great. If not - pause the ad and test other copies.

Yah man growth for me as well. Have we met before? Were you in NY? Whats your AIM?

Later

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

Yah man growth for me as well. Have we met before? Were you in NY? Whats your AIM?

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Unfortunately I couldn't attend the NY summit.
But Vegas is already booked :-)

AIM: doron213

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Johnny the Doe

well done for all your achievements so far - if I get it right we're competing for the same place in the Costa Rica trip and I must say your results are pretty impressive.

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Anyway, good luck with the contest and who knows - maybe we'll see each other at Costa Rica :-)

Did I miss a contest somewhere?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No offence dude but id rather get 20% return on 80 000 spent...or 16,000 profit then 300% return on even 3000 spent or $9,000 profit.

just the way i found to work, there are hundreds of ways...ill gladly keep this one to myself...just trying to help out

I agree 100%, at the end of my day what counts is the profit not the roi and that's a fact.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by oscarkool

I'm sorry but spending 41k to make a 12k profit is not that good and I don't know why people are getting all crazy over this. I'm sorry to crash the party, but that's just a fact. If you're spending a crap load of money to make a 20% ROI, that's not good. In fact, anything less than a 100% ROI needs to be tweaked until it gets to 100%.

If you want to do well on facebook, stick to dating ads or e-mail submits. I was doing 300% ROI direct-linking e-mail submits. Then I started doing rebills and mobile and got banned

Hi oscarkool,

what you said about the 300% ROI in email submits is really interesting, since I have a nice 100-150% ROI doing email submits but this traffic isn't too stable and I have a lot of maintenance to do to keep it going that way.

If you have some tips on doing DL with email submits on Facebook I'll be more than glad if you share some of them.

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15 years ago

cool, nice story

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15 years ago

Hey
THis is an interesting thread with loads of conflciting advice

Hey Joe not a newb but need some help up to the next level
you would not be wasting time with 'how to apply' what is a campaign' questions
ANd one email question a day is plenty!! or 10 min skypoe normaly works

let me know if you have any more spaces left cheers
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jamx03

15 years ago

Very nice and motivating thread. I did some ppc initially without success. Since then I stayed away from it. I think I have to look at it again.

thanks for motivation.

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15 years ago

I am also curious on how he did that.

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15 years ago

First of all congrats on an your amazing success. This post surely has lifted my moods a great deal as it had made me realize the immense potential in IM. It has also renewed my interest in trying out ppc again. I had left it off after trying it for a couple of months and not noticing and good results. And that was long back when I was quite inexperienced in internet marketing.

Maybe now that I have a lot more experience in IM, I should try it out again to speed things further up.

Great going man, you rock. And thanks so much for posting about your success and providing inspiration to us.

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Hey Joe
My inbox was full
try and pm me again re my email
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by anwar001

First of all congrats on an your amazing success. This post surely has lifted my moods a great deal as it had made me realize the immense potential in IM. It has also renewed my interest in trying out ppc again. I had left it off after trying it for a couple of months and not noticing and good results. And that was long back when I was quite inexperienced in internet marketing.

Maybe now that I have a lot more experience in IM, I should try it out again to speed things further up.

Great going man, you rock. And thanks so much for posting about your success and providing inspiration to us.

Hey no worries, just keep going man. Find what works for you.

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Tommy Turner

15 years ago

Well done!

It is sweet when the monthly revenue starts to really kick in.

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15 years ago

wow....I wish I could do the same too...
very quick

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15 years ago

First of all congrats on an your great success! QUestion: do you use any paid software to explore PPC at all or it is mainly
your own research and the mentoring you've got? What would you sugest to read to improve PPC strategies?
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by icyimp

First of all congrats on an your great success! QUestion: do you use any paid software to explore PPC at all or it is mainly
your own research and the mentoring you've got? What would you sugest to read to improve PPC strategies?
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Nope, no software man, I dont use keywords or anyhtign really..well a bit but not like your thinking on Google.

And...as for reading...there are lots of blogs out there, www.shoemoney.com is pretty sweet.

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15 years ago

All good stuff here!

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15 years ago

FAO joelraitt (OP):

Smashing work. The information provided in & your handling of the thread and its subject with all the related issues, is informative, intelligent, to-the-point. No bullsh*t, facts.
I am dying to send you a PM concerning the mentoring offer, but unfortunately I need to have 50 posts before I can do so. Hope your offer will still stand once I've reached that magic number.
All the best.

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mariusr

15 years ago

Way to go Joelraitt! And thanks for the posts, its really inspiring and informative to read it, especially for a newbie like me. I'd really want to get into CPA and I've been educating myself with this forum and tutorials a lot during the last weeks.
I have been accepted to some networks and have made some first campaigns for testing. Right now the biggest question for me is how to bid correctly. Let's take FaceBook. How do you evaluate how much are you going to bid? It depends on what factors? For example, I have a Car Insurance offer that gives me $10 for a lead. Promoting it in US. Facebook suggested me a price 0.76-0.89. How would you choose the right bid price?
How does Facebook evaluate the suggested bid price? I made a campaign and saw that the suggested price is changing constantly (now it is more than $1.10). Why/how?
Anyone found any good threads about choosing the right bid price (I have looked, but haven't found). Or a WSO available?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by mariusr

Way to go Joelraitt! And thanks for the posts, its really inspiring and informative to read it, especially for a newbie like me. I'd really want to get into CPA and I've been educating myself with this forum and tutorials a lot during the last weeks.
I have been accepted to some networks and have made some first campaigns for testing. Right now the biggest question for me is how to bid correctly. Let's take FaceBook. How do you evaluate how much are you going to bid? It depends on what factors? For example, I have a Car Insurance offer that gives me $10 for a lead. Promoting it in US. Facebook suggested me a price 0.76-0.89. How would you choose the right bid price?
How does Facebook evaluate the suggested bid price? I made a campaign and saw that the suggested price is changing constantly (now it is more than $1.10). Why/how?
Anyone found any good threads about choosing the right bid price (I have looked, but haven't found). Or a WSO available?

Thanks in advance

Good questions man, and good start actually testing stuff....ummmmmm....haha well the answer to some of those questions I kind of want to keep to myself and the two people I choose to mentor for now...haha sorry man, but if you do testing and watch what happens you'll figure it out...sorry man :S

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ian rowe

15 years ago

that is great news can you mentor me as i would be happy to make half of that in a month....

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15 years ago

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I'm all for feeding hungry kids but don't you think your post is a bit off topic? Seems like multi-level stuff to me. If so, there are other forums for this.

Back to the subject.
Thank you Joelraitt for this terriffic thead. It is an inspiration to read about your success. Going back now to re-read all your posts.

I've tried organic traffic to CPA with little results. So much time spent testing offers and merchants, I'd hate to say.

PPC seems like a great way to test the waters before jumping in over ones head. Ironicly I've just recieved $100 promo from Google and found a $150 coupon code from Yahoo. You would think that I could buy a whole lot of 5 cent clicks with a free $250. Any suggestions on vendor selection within these two platforms? Is it worth the time to even use these two for traffic?

Thanks for your advice and thanks again for the thread.

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15 years ago

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I'm all for feeding hungry kids but don't you think your post is a bit off topic? Seems like multi-level stuff to me. If so, there are other forums for this.

Back to the subject.
Thank you Joelraitt for this terriffic thead. It is an inspiration to read about your success. Going back now to re-read all your posts.

I've tried organic traffic to CPA with little results. So much time spent testing offers and merchants, I'd hate to say.

PPC seems like a great way to test the waters before jumping in over ones head. Ironicly I've just recieved $100 promo from Google and found a $150 coupon code from Yahoo. You would think that I could buy a whole lot of 5 cent clicks with a free $250. Any suggestions on vendor selection within these two platforms? Is it worth the time to even use these two for traffic?

Thanks for your advice and thanks again for the thread.

Thanks man, as for the coupons...it's a perfect way to get started...the one thing I remeber is when I got those coupons waaaayyyy back I kind of acted like it was FREE money and did not use it that wisely.

That is real money so treat it like that. You will do better then me with it. And of course google and yahoo are good traffic sources...and huge to boot

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Kenster

15 years ago

Yes, PPC is still great for cpa offers, its just harder than it used to be. And guess what, in 6 months it will even be harder, so either put in the work and adapt to the new environment or try a new traffic source.

And yes, there is nothing I like more than free PPC credit. I have a handful of adwords $100 coupons on my desk. I just need a new account and cc for each one so its kinda a pain, but hey, it's $100 or more or less depending on how your campaign goes.

DAVAN, I think you shouldnt do ppc and you should send over your coupons to me hehe! just playin, of course you should use them

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Davan 15 years ago

Thanks Kenster,

Which do you think is a better direction; CPA, CPL, or email/zip submits?

Here is the Yahoo code from one of our other generous Warriors

Advertising Your Business with Yahoo! Search Marketing

After pasting it I've noticed Canada in the URL. I don't know if it only local traffic.
Sorry it's only for $125 and not $150. and you must sign up. I don't think it's an affiliate link. I could be wrong.

It's from thailandave who started the thread "CPA for beginners - my first successes"

And sure, I'll send you my Goopons. Not :-)

Update:
$50 coupon code for Facebook just arrived in e-mail. Try "Holliday10" as promo code. Let me know if it works.

Somehow I don't think you really need them though. If your publicized knowledge is any indication, you probably are one of those guys with a $100,000 per month spend account. Whenever I see "Kenster" it's always a stop, read carefully.
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  Originally Posted by Davan
  
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  Hi I also got a $50 from face book. I am using it for my cpa. Right now I am building a movie site and then use the $50 on face book for cpm's. Just a test Anything from 25cents per K is good.
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

Yes, PPC is still great for cpa offers, its just harder than it used to be. And guess what, in 6 months it will even be harder, so either put in the work and adapt to the new environment or try a new traffic source.

And yes, there is nothing I like more than free PPC credit. I have a handful of adwords $100 coupons on my desk. I just need a new account and cc for each one so its kinda a pain, but hey, it's $100 or more or less depending on how your campaign goes.

DAVAN, I think you shouldnt do ppc and you should send over your coupons to me hehe! just playin, of course you should use them

best of luck

Kenster, how do you get so many adwords coupons?

I got one in the mail and thinking it'd be great to have more!

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Ali Nobis

15 years ago

hmm im fairly new around here, but that seems great. im happy for you man. maybe you can help a brother out? lol

just playing congrats bro.

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Davan, I used the Yahoo link you provided (it also showed $125 for sign up), but after making the initial deposit of $30, by account balance is just 30...
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15 years ago

It seems to me it is a combination of hardwork, risk and luck. Am I right?

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It seems to me it is a combination of hardwork, risk and luck. Am I right?

Don't forget focus

What I see screw people over and over is jumping from one traffic source to another, one offer to another, one landing page to another. And never focusing and getting it right. It's the time put in through trial and error is how you learn and become good. If you jump around and never put in the work and focus you'll end up finding something else to do.
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  Yah man, I 100% agree with you. There are so many ways to make $ online, you just need to find whats best for you and stick to it. Dont get caught up in 10 dumb ebooks all showing you how to make 100 a day or w/e. Learn the system and get experiance...
  
  As for risk...meh you can limit that to what you can handle, hard work of course, and luck...yah maybe a little, but have you ever heard the quote
  
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15 years ago

Hey guys, sorry for no responses of late, didnt even have time to send PM back to people who sent them in. I've been rediculusly busy the last little bit...I HAVE NOT chose people get, and I'm planning on chosing the TWO people tonight after I read through all the e-mails I got.

Take care and keep up the good work....any new success out there?

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15 years ago

Being a CPA network owner this is quite a typical story. Using CPA offers and paid traffic whether that be ppv, ppc, cpm or whatever. When you can buy traffic you can grow a lot faster then trying to build it manually. Think of it like the big ebook guys that put their stuff on clickbank, really all they're doing is scaling by paying per sale. All good stuff with unlimited potential.

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joelraitt

15 years ago

So, been busy helping a few people with FB, and doing some new campains...thie thread kind of died but we can start it up again if anyone has some questions...

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15 years ago

Thanks for the info very insightful.

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15 years ago

Great work Joelraitt....hope i could make that amount soon.

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Globe_Trotter13

15 years ago

Hey Joel,
I just finished reading this entire thread and I found it one of the more interesting ones I have read in the WF in a long time! A big thanks for sharing all that with us and for being available to answer questions.
If your mentoring programme has a free spot, let me know.

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TVChatten 15 years ago

Seriously though that's a big step for someone that's new to this way of making money. So congrats to you on that part and by reading this thread...I actually learned an essential piece of knowledge which is basically find your own way of doing ppc instead of asking people how exactly did they do it lol. I do have an idea in my head, but I don't want to really say what it is due to the fact that I want to try it out first...but yeah, nice job on making that money!
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15 years ago

Wow, quite impressive! you must have been doing something right...

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15 years ago

No offence man, but that is horrible advice...i tried all the SEO crap, it takes forever, PPC, if you do things right cost not much, and risk not much,

Funny but true. It took me a year to figure that out. Going hog wild learning everything I can about PPC right now. I have several # 1 listings with Google for my keywords for a few sites. Took a years worth of work (hard and BORING work) just to get a few hundred uniques a day. I can get many times the traffic in 10 minutes of smart work with PPC.

F that I'm ready to make some real money.

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Kyle L Hannah

15 years ago

So many of you have the wrong mentality...wishing for success, etc.. No wonder I stick to cough *wckedfire...but anyway

Just get out there and start launching campaigns...best way to learn is by doing..not some crappy ass ebook or course promising the moon and stars

oh and lol@any wso's you recommend..you think this guy bought a $9.95 ebook and then immediately started pushing 40k into ad spend? seriously now c'mon...

joel you ever wanna chat hit me up on aim..i'll be @asw

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15 years ago

So from one offer?

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selfmademillionaire 15 years ago

Hey Joel,

Congrats dude! That's awesome. I just wanted to jump in and say "Merry Christmas and Happy New Years". Look forward to reading more.
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15 years ago

Hey Joel, Thanks for sharing your great stuff, It's motivated me!

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J Bold

15 years ago

I have to say $52K rev with just $13K profit, is really not great. That's a ton of spend for not a lot of profit. But, still, a lot of people would love $13K profit/month so more power to ya. I would suggest you branch in to other areas of paid traffic, however, that you can give you much better ROI.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by redicelander

I have to say $52K rev with just $13K profit, is really not great. That's a ton of spend for not a lot of profit. But, still, a lot of people would love $13K profit/month so more power to ya. I would suggest you branch in to other areas of paid traffic, however, that you can give you much better ROI.

Yeah but think...

at the end of the day would you rather have a ****ty margin and a wad of profit or a fricken awesome margin and a small wad of cash?

You should really care about what you actually bring home. I would rather spend 100,000,000 and make 101,000,000 per month than spend $100 and make $700 even though the latter has a hell of a lot better margin.

Obviosuly this is jsut for illustrative purposes, but my point is that a lot of people focus on margin a little too much when cash in the pocket should be your focus.

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JustMint 15 years ago

Joel - thanks for sharing this practical, and most importantly inspiring information.

Good on you for going for it! Nice work.

Did you have a "start" of some kind already in CPA marketing before you met your mentor? If so what were you doing, and do you recommend any particular sources of info, threads, courses to to get a good grounding in this area?
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by redicelander

I have to say $52K rev with just $13K profit, is really not great. That's a ton of spend for not a lot of profit. But, still, a lot of people would love $13K profit/month so more power to ya. I would suggest you branch in to other areas of paid traffic, however, that you can give you much better ROI.

What are the Tax ramifications on this??
Paid on the revenue, or just the profits?

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JasonWestwick 13 years ago

Originally Posted by roadranger

What are the Tax ramifications on this??
Paid on the revenue, or just the profits?

Just the profits the rest is deductible. At least that's how it would work here in the uk.

My traffic expenditure is a business expense.
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Vendetta

15 years ago

The point people seem to miss with roi is if they can find means (key word IF) to invest in that work for them to use the same money 10gs and make 50gs in the same time they woulda used 50 gs to make 10 gs its good to go for the latter. Which is obvious. But until that system or those systems are found by all means stick with the strategy that is only earning you 20 percent return on your investment

Remember most of us are entrepreneurs and we are looking for income streams not self employment and if we find a stream. It should be used continuously until it is no longer profitable.

If we find a new income stream with better roi. You DO NOT GIVE UP your first income stream. You get a loan and expand.

Scale to into infinity.

Keys to riches from Rich Dad Poor Dad I am sure we all remember is using other peoples time and other peoples money. Your time and your money are for YOUR PLEASURE.

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warrice7

15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
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How did you do it? Any blue print?

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Globe_Trotter13 15 years ago

Originally Posted by warrice7

How did you do it? Any blue print?

You might want to take the time to read this thread as he gives a lot of details on how he reached that level.

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Pauli7143

15 years ago

Great info

I was thinking of using FB for a lead gen for an offline local business I own. Now I am for sure going to try it.

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LittleMike

15 years ago

I have a question regarding this statement:

"No offence dude but id rather get 20% return on 80 000 spent...or 16,000 profit then 300% return on even 3000 spent or $9,000 profit."

Now obviously you're making more money with the 20% of 80k, but if you're making a 300% ROI, then why can't you just scale that to 300% of 80k instead of 3k?

I'm pretty much a CPA noob, but I would think that if you are working a campaign and getting a 300% return, then just by adding more money into the ad spend that you would get more money even if it's still 300%. No?

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P.S. Thanks Joel for this thread, and I wanted to thank Kenster too because he's contributed a lot to this thread as well. Good work, gents.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by LittleMike

I have a question regarding this statement:

"No offence dude but id rather get 20% return on 80 000 spent...or 16,000 profit then 300% return on even 3000 spent or $9,000 profit."

Now obviously you're making more money with the 20% of 80k, but if you're making a 300% ROI, then why can't you just scale that to 300% of 80k instead of 3k?

I'm pretty much a CPA noob, but I would think that if you are working a campaign and getting a 300% return, then just by adding more money into the ad spend that you would get more money even if it's still 300%. No?

-Mike

P.S. Thanks Joel for this thread, and I wanted to thank Kenster too because he's contributed a lot to this thread as well. Good work, gents.

Because there are always a limit for how many searches a keyword phrase gets a day.

So if you have found a good niche, with an extremely profitable keyword phrase that gets x amount of searches a day which gives you a 300% ROI, you'll want the additional keywords that proves to be profitable as well, all be it some of them only gives 20% ROI and have a higher search volume. Etc.

That's why

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Preben Frenning

Because there are always a limit for how many searches a keyword phrase gets a day.

So if you have found a good niche, with an extremely profitable keyword phrase that gets x amount of searches a day which gives you a 300% ROI, you'll want the additional keywords that proves to be profitable as well, all be it some of them only gives 20% ROI and have a higher search volume. Etc.

That's why

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Hi Preben,

Thanks for the response. I think I understand. So in other words, no matter how much more money you throw into the ad spend, the ad is only going to be displayed so many times (due to the fact that the keywords are only searched so many times a day). Is that correct?

-Mike

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by LittleMike

Hi Preben,

Thanks for the response. I think I understand. So in other words, no matter how much more money you throw into the ad spend, the ad is only going to be displayed so many times (due to the fact that the keywords are only searched so many times a day). Is that correct?

-Mike

Yup

And if you have a lucrative niche and discovered a keyword phrase that gives you an awesome ROI, you maximize it of course, and test if you can find others.

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didiert

15 years ago

Could you tell us, how much of this rev is ppc costs in % ?

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Psy 15 years ago

Originally Posted by didiert

Could you tell us, how much of this rev is ppc costs in % ?

Read the thread - it's been answered!
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mine1718

15 years ago

making 13k in a month, not bad at all =]

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YanKirby

15 years ago

That is one of the biggest jumps ive seen so far. Congratulations!

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natezyz

15 years ago

Read this thread from the beginning and first off great success joel. I'm looking to research for a month or two to figure out what I'm going to do first while saving some money up so I can hit the ground running. Great story joel

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LittleMike

15 years ago

Hey Joel, how much money do you think it would take to honestly invest in PPC->CPA like you've done? Obviously you have to be willing to lose money on bad campaigns, but do you think you have a ballpark figure on what it would take to get to where you are?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by LittleMike

Hey Joel, how much money do you think it would take to honestly invest in PPC->CPA like you've done? Obviously you have to be willing to lose money on bad campaigns, but do you think you have a ballpark figure on what it would take to get to where you are?

Ummm...it alway depends on education, your AM, and so on, but I'd feel safe if I had about 2000 ready to start with.

I had a bit more but wasn't going to risk it all, cashflow will become a problem if you hit a big campaign.

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bryanw

15 years ago

Hey Joel, congrats to your great success. You grow really fast! I have a few questions for you.

1. Do you still run $3.8-5 offers? Are most of your revenue from these offers?
2. The main revenue from FB or your new traffic source?(I guess it's media buy?

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Wish you more success in the new year, and share more tips with us

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by bryanw

Hey Joel, congrats to your great success. You grow really fast! I have a few questions for you.

1. Do you still run $3.8-5 offers? Are most of your revenue from these offers?
2. The main revenue from FB or your new traffic source?(I guess it's media buy?

)

Wish you more success in the new year, and share more tips with us

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Yah, mostly clp stuff in that range, im spreading out a bit more into higher payouts now, lots of traffic from FB, but I use other sources now as well, media buys and such, there are lots out there|!

Good luck man

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15 years ago

congratulations, thats pretty good

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somelostboi 15 years ago

what a beast. facebook is a hard game and I'm just getting in.

don't know if you would mind sharing how much you pay per click. I'm trying multiple tests to see what works, but .30 cents comes out of my pocket with each click.
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joelraitt

15 years ago

Just wanted to update something: I was just chatting with a guy who read this and he was like " it only took you a few month to make that much?"

i just wanted to say this succcess came fast.....BUT!!! i worked my ass off on all that other **** like ebooks, making my own product, and a million other ways to make $$$ online before i hit this....so you have to work your ass off, just like any business

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Charles Patrick

15 years ago

I am really suckish at PPC for some reason, spent over $800/3,000+ clicks not one sale. I am also getting really really sick of googles slow review process, some of my ads are taking 4 days to get reviewed. Any advice, am I doing something wrong?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Charles Patrick

I am really suckish at PPC for some reason, spent over $800/3,000+ clicks not one sale. I am also getting really really sick of googles slow review process, some of my ads are taking 4 days to get reviewed. Any advice, am I doing something wrong?

Dude, $800 bones and not one sale. Obviously you need to stop your ppc campaigns and learn a bit more, i would hate to see you lose any more than that. If you are deadset on ppc then pick up a PPC course or just start diggign through this forum and the adwords training center vids.

If you arent comfortable with CPA as a whole, buy a WSO or better yet, dig through this forum and make sure you are very comfortable before killing your wallet any more.

My advice would be to stick with cheaper methods for now until you make that money back!

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Charles Patrick 15 years ago

Thanx, I stopped my ppc, got a couple courses cheap. CPA is working ok for me now.
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External

15 years ago

I was trying to follow joel's path using Facebook PPC, but no luck! Low CTR and many Fraud Clicks! I got many clicks from same IP! Many friends advised me to stay away from FB PPC.

Hey joel, anyway, it'd be nice if you could make an ebook sometime for all of us who following you in this thread

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Don Warren

15 years ago

I make $30,000 a month and don't use PPC at all. It's all article marketing, lists and just knowing what people are looking for. You really have to think stuff out and just make it work. I consider myself more of a consultant these days because of it. People don't really understand how important a getting a mentor is.

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cowsgonemadd3

15 years ago

I made some PPC ads and I can't even get people to click on them haha.

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Dayne Dylan

Banned 15 years ago

Joel, how many campaigns are you now running? Also, what do you use to create fast landing pages for testing?

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joelraitt 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan

Joel, how many campaigns are you now running? Also, what do you use to create fast landing pages for testing?

Im always testing / running campaing man, its always changing. And I have a guy in India pretty much full time that makes all my stuff for me.
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Anthrax

15 years ago

From the looks of this thread, it seems truly very hard if you do not have any kind of revenue. I am a n00b so should I stay away from PPC. Though I would like to congratulate you on your success

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ukbuddy2

15 years ago

Hi joel
This thread still going then!!!
you need to package something up for people

my experiense has been you need to find a single method and stick at it and then all about that one niche

if you are a newbie don't keep bouncing from facebook to adwords to adsense to ppv or article marketing
just kinda try and focus on one at least for a month or 2 and if you cannot make that pay then move on to another

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arsde

15 years ago

joel how do you do when you choose an offer?

I have this problem that I think everything is crap. I wonder "how the hell are I gonna be able to make it convert" It must be wrong on me because Im looked on many networks. I just can't find a decent lead program. What do you choose from more then between 3-6dollar. Is it grocery stuff or free stuff like xbox vs ps3. Or you can say what you would not take... I know it's much to ask.

Should I just take one and try?

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Udt

15 years ago

I remember you saying you were going to train 2 people. I was just curious as to if they started to make money yet or not?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Udt

I remember you saying you were going to train 2 people. I was just curious as to if they started to make money yet or not?

It's funny you ask, people seem to come and go like that, i helped them out a lot and i know they were happy with it. I even offered to help one guy with each campan if he emailed them to me....never heard form him again, although he did start to make a bit, i think his best was like 50-70 profit in a day???

i also didnt even collect all the $$$ from them.

people just seem to give up, or move on to the next get rich quick thing, which never work...oh well less people doing this stuff = more $$$$$ for me.

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Udt

15 years ago

wow, if I was given a spot, id go all the way. They wasted it =(. Good luck with everything Joel. Your story is awesome.

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Sink or Swim

15 years ago

I agree, what a waste. No matter how much a person says they're willing to work hard at something, there are always people that really mean they hope you just mail them a check every month.

Way to go, Joel--keep up the good work.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Sink or Swim

I agree, what a waste. No matter how much a person says they're willing to work hard at something, there are always people that really mean they hope you just mail them a check every month.

Way to go, Joel--keep up the good work.

Yah its not peoples fault though, some things come first, family, health and so on, right? And i'm sure i could have done more as well, its just life right...things happen, distractions, more important stuff....

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rogue tardis

15 years ago

I came across your thread today and was a bit curious about a few things.

I am totally new to all these jargon about CPA PPA etc as I am a total newbie on online money making ...

You mention that there are risks involved - may I please ask what are these risks that you talked about ?

Secondly, if you had to pick a money making training system out there that resembles your own - which would you most likely choose ?

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15 years ago

Been away for the last while, good to see the threads still going. Ummm...risk as in if you had a few 1000 to invest, with a lot of hard work you could make it work. Maybe it will happen right away, or further down the road...

as for a system, i dont really know man, keep your moeny and use it to test an offer. start by copying people who you think are making money.

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I came across your thread today and was a bit curious about a few things.

I am totally new to all these jargon about CPA PPA etc as I am a total newbie on online money making ...

You mention that there are risks involved - may I please ask what are these risks that you talked about ?

Secondly, if you had to pick a money making training system out there that resembles your own - which would you most likely choose ?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Yah its not peoples fault though, some things come first, family, health and so on, right? And i'm sure i could have done more as well, its just life right...things happen, distractions, more important stuff....

It's all about priorities I guess. Once in a lifetime opportunities are hard to come by, guess they didn't take it seriously. I'm sure they'll regret it one day, especially if they ever read this thread.

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Jeff M

15 years ago

Ok, before I get really pissed off here... Are you referring to one of the two people as me?

I had a few paragraphs typed out here, but thought "ah, I'll give him the benefit and ask first"

So?

Originally Posted by joelraitt

It's funny you ask, people seem to come and go like that, i helped them out a lot and i know they were happy with it. I even offered to help one guy with each campan if he emailed them to me....never heard form him again, although he did start to make a bit, i think his best was like 50-70 profit in a day???

i also didnt even collect all the $$$ from them.

people just seem to give up, or move on to the next get rich quick thing, which never work...oh well less people doing this stuff = more $$$$$ for me.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeff M

Ok, before I get really pissed off here... Are you referring to one of the two people as me?

I had a few paragraphs typed out here, but thought "ah, I'll give him the benefit and ask first"

So?

Hey man, sorry I just had not heard from you in a very long time, thought you had given up...but you hadnt and that is awesome!

You have actually been working your ass off to much you didnt have time to contact me...and to be honest...thats what it takes...

hit me up on skype and lets chat, maybe i can help with w/e your working on right now.

So again...Im sorry for jumping to conclusions that you had given up...i as totally wrong!!!!

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by arsde

joel how do you do when you choose an offer?

I have this problem that I think everything is crap. I wonder "how the hell are I gonna be able to make it convert" It must be wrong on me because Im looked on many networks. I just can't find a decent lead program. What do you choose from more then between 3-6dollar. Is it grocery stuff or free stuff like xbox vs ps3. Or you can say what you would not take... I know it's much to ask.

Should I just take one and try?

Dude, i shot through a ton of offers before i found one that kinda worked, then i kept at it, making new ads, made an LP ( helped a lot) then kept split testing Lp's until ROI was decent and I could expand it.

try everything, you never know, i just dont like really small payouts like 1-2 $

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Johnny12345

15 years ago

Joel,

Nice thread.

However, you need to put something together (maybe a WSO) that pulls it all together into a step-by-step process. Random (but very good) bits of info are hard to put into action.

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Two words: Media Buying
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cindyt

15 years ago

Well done! The part that scares me is the $42,000 you have spent to make $13,000 profit.

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Originally Posted by cindyt

Well done! The part that scares me is the $42,000 you have spent to make $13,000 profit.

Ha, yah once you get used to it, its not a big deal, its all cashflow, when you get paid 2 times a week, its really not that bad. part of the business, and to think im small in this industry, people spend 10, 20, 30, 40 K or more a day!
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mikkosant

15 years ago

You are tracking right? Prosper 202, statsjunky, affiliate prophet? Which do you use?

I'm a bit slow to start because I want to make sure everything is going to be properly tracked. Yes, Paranoid I know. I tried PPC before like a moron and didn't track my keywords>conversions.Somehow I came out even though.

Thanks for any help joelraitt

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by mikkosant

You are tracking right? Prosper 202, statsjunky, affiliate prophet? Which do you use?

I'm a bit slow to start because I want to make sure everything is going to be properly tracked. Yes, Paranoid I know. I tried PPC before like a moron and didn't track my keywords>conversions.Somehow I came out even though.

Thanks for any help joelraitt

hey, i just use prosper, its free and does everything you need and more. and if you could break even with ppc with no tracking, you can make a fortune with tracking.

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15 years ago

nice to hear you make good profits a real jump, did you use blog or CMS for the site ?

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victoraroestad

15 years ago

Is there a chance you would share your main money earner with us?

Thank you.

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Dayne Dylan Banned 15 years ago

Do you REALLY think he is going to do that? C'mon.

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Is there a chance you would share your main money earner with us?

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Originally Posted by victoraroestad

Is there a chance you would share your main money earner with us?

Thank you.

No, of course not. And every time you ask that question you lose respect and get further away from success. Ask the right questions man.
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15 years ago

its amazing!

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IMSkeptic

15 years ago

Hey awesome thread to all and thanks to Joel for starting it. This has given me the encouragement to continue on with my CPA efforts. It has reinforced a lot of things I already know but has helped to restore the confidence that all of the get rich quick guru propaganda has eroded in my outlook.

Also someone in the 300 and some posts I just read in this thread asked about an offer converting and then dying a few days later. You may want to play with how often your ad is showing for each unique ip like one to three times a week. Otherwise you are essentially spamming the same traffic again and again and wasting money. Another thing Joel mentioned in this regard is to watch for trends. I have noticed all of my conversions will happen around the same 3-4 hr time period during the day on certain websites. This obviously has to do with visitor patterns like people getting home from work a taking a mid-morning break to their favorite website at work.

So far I have expertly reduced $300 to about $95 primarily with media buying

I haven't run any landing pages so I think that is my next step to increase conversions on the offers that did convert.

Speaking of landing pages I have a quick question on implementation. Do you buy a targeted domain for each niche or product and build your landing pages there or do you use something more generic so you don't have to buy up a bunch of domains? Any specific format that has had consistent results like review, informative, etc.?

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ukbuddy2

15 years ago

Thats right any profit is good profit
however aim to break even before you get carried away if you are a newb
You can read great threads like this bu tyou need to get started
ask away and get some help
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15 years ago

Great thread..so what do you use initial cpc at FB? $.35 per click? What do you track on 202 when you get traffics from FB?

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bioshift

15 years ago

right, I think I read enough about roi and revenue vs. profit in this thread to get me through 2012. It's not rocket science people, just basic economics. subtract all of your overhead and add costs... to get your net profit.

Still I would be slammed to spend 1 dollar and make 1.30 on this scale. I know its small potatoes in the grand scheme, but I can feed my kids with them taters!

I would really love to work with a mentor on a few campaigns. I have been IM'n for over a year and I wish I would have gotten into PPC a year ago when arbitrage conspiracy was coming out... has anyone heard any success storys form that product btw?

and joelraitt, did you learn your FB stuff from shoemoney? I saw you gave a shout out to him, and I've watched some of his videos... he mentions FB. Jst curious... Isn't he launching something soon?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by bioshift

right, I think I read enough about roi and revenue vs. profit in this thread to get me through 2012. It's not rocket science people, just basic economics. subtract all of your overhead and add costs... to get your net profit.

Still I would be slammed to spend 1 dollar and make 1.30 on this scale. I know its small potatoes in the grand scheme, but I can feed my kids with them taters!

I would really love to work with a mentor on a few campaigns. I have been IM'n for over a year and I wish I would have gotten into PPC a year ago when arbitrage conspiracy was coming out... has anyone heard any success storys form that product btw?

and joelraitt, did you learn your FB stuff from shoemoney? I saw you gave a shout out to him, and I've watched some of his videos... he mentions FB. Jst curious... Isn't he launching something soon?

Ummm no I didnt learn from shoemoney, I have met him briefly in NY, I actually had no idea who he was at the time, but yah he just came out with a product, it was a HUGE launch, he is a legit guy, im sure its a good system, but ive never tested it or looked at it, its really built for people just starting out, i think.

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AidenChong

15 years ago

HAH ! What an interesting thread !

I was making NOTHING at all before this.This year alone (2010), I've received my first cheque from Clickbank, and my first CPA money from 1 CPA network (that's the only CPA network which I join).

I've also hit my first $100 a day now, and I am trying to keep that up.

Screw my income when I first started to try CPV -> CPA . After two weeks, I managed to pull myself out of the negative ROI and turned that to positive ROI, on a daily basis

I guess what we need is time. Procrastinated a lot, bought a lot of crappy stuff but never put them into use. Finally, after taking action, money started to pulling in!

Hope this is going to somewhat help those people who aren't making money still, on the internet

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15 years ago

That's a sweet return - very inspiring, thanks for sharing1!

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15 years ago

nice one, keep it up.

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15 years ago

this is the first thread i read on warrior, and it's a keeper! thanks joel and the other contributers.

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15 years ago

WOW!BRAVO!I wish i could go here too!

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15 years ago

Sounds like you have a product for sale here.....if you ask me? I am a newbie true enough but great value, great information.....isn't that what sales? Just my two cents here.

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Tonio Smith

15 years ago

It is always good hearing that the newbies can make it in this industry although nobody is a newbie when coming into any type of market. Each individual has his own experiences that have built up talents in different areas.

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Banned 15 years ago

LOL, it happened to me too. I started IM since two years ago, reading a lot of ** BS and nothing happened. All those crap stuff that never work. Now i'm making around 3k or 4 net a day, Just scale up the campaigns.

I love CPA

, try to listen to the big boys. And stop following most of people.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by moises_pk2

LOL, it happened to me too. I started IM since two years ago, reading a lot of ** BS and nothing happened. All those crap stuff that never work. Now i'm making around 3k or 4 net a day, Just scale up the campaigns.

I love CPA

, try to listen to the big boys. And stop following most of people.

You got it man, thats sick.

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15 years ago

Keep posting successes. There are some downer posts on this forum ( I give up... You guys are nuts... everyone is taking advantage of me... etc, etc...). So It is nice when one of us makes it!

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15 years ago

What company do you use to drive your PPC Traffic? Adwords?
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jamiedot

15 years ago

Very generous thread that youve created here Joel and by generous, i mean with the information that youve kindly provided for everybody.

I imagine that your initial motivation was to act as a form of inspiration for anybody who's in the same position as you were just a few short months ago and the bulk of replies yovue received on here are testimony to your success in that endeavour, but it must have been and (perhaps still is) mind boggling to have read some of the comments that have been posted on here either point blank asking for specific campaign details, or, simpy refuting that what youve achieved is possible or worthwhile (criticising the 'low' profit margins for instance).

hopefully that wont stop you posting as the people who need the inspiration are the same people that you rubbed shoulders with and related to 8 months ago - i.e. uncertain, apprehensive, perhaps confused too, but just looking for that one last piece of the CPA puzzle. maybe similar to yourself with your own mentor?

i do have a question for you though and ive been all the way through this thread without seeing it addressed, so hopefully im not repeating something that was asked for elsewhere, but my question relates to the early stages of your media buying campaigns and specifically the cashflow side of it....

you've explained that you had a budget of $2k in july 2009 which was when you began and at that time your total sales upto that point were a meagre $27, yet within 3 and 1/2 months your monthly sales (as of 21st oct) were $57k showing a profit of slightly over 20% - i.e. your marketing budget was $45k per month.

here's the bit that im keen to understand - HOW did you manage to fund the growth in ad spend for your marketing budget?

obviously, it came from profits generated on a week to week basis, but AT WHAT POINT did your cpa network begin paying you on a weekly or even daily basis because without them putting you on fast payouts, you wouldnt have been able to fund your own growth.

please understand that im not asking the question from a perspective of disbelief, or criticism.

not at all, my question is based on trying to understand and visualise how quickly somebody can grow their business WITHOUT fast pay-outs - i.e. if the network were unwilling to pay as promptly as youve been paid, how severely would that have restricted your growth to the heady heights youre currently achieving of circa $200k sales per month against profits of circa 30%.

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Bryan V 15 years ago

Hey thanks for sharing your story, It has been a great inspiration

I have a quick question for anyone who's using facebook ads.

At what point do you switch from CPC to CPM? or is it even beneficial?

If you switch the current ad to CPM does it reset your stats (as in the low cpc attained by the high ctr)?

I'm seeing that my CTR is essential in determining CPC, but is that how the CPM price is determined?
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by jamiedot

i do have a question for you though and ive been all the way through this thread without seeing it addressed, so hopefully im not repeating something that was asked for elsewhere, but my question relates to the early stages of your media buying campaigns and specifically the cashflow side of it....

you've explained that you had a budget of $2k in july 2009 which was when you began and at that time your total sales upto that point were a meagre $27, yet within 3 and 1/2 months your monthly sales (as of 21st oct) were $57k showing a profit of slightly over 20% - i.e. your marketing budget was $45k per month.

here's the bit that im keen to understand - HOW did you manage to fund the growth in ad spend for your marketing budget?
jamie

hey man, good question. I got a couple things to say:

1) I got as ready as I could, knowing it could "blow up" at anytime and id need a lot of cash. I had saved up some $$$ and had 2 credit cards that I made sure gave me the most credit possible ( i think like 12,000 or more???)

2) I actually got lucky on this part, my friend ( and huge affiliate) actually lent me 30,000 after only kowing him for a few months. I got it all back to him with interest of course with-in a month or so. That helped out ALOT!

3) But that 30K was still not enough, i needed $$$ to keep my business going full speed. who the heck wants to slow down cuz they dont have $$$$? So i went to the network and basically said this " if you want me to keep doing numbers like this, you need to pay me even sooner ( i was on weeklies) but now i was getting paid 2 times a week.

4) I only ended up needing to borrow about 4k from my parents, and paid them back 2 days later after I was paid by the network

Basically it was a big crap shoot, but found a way to get the money and get the full value i could out of the opportunity at the time. Did i get help? you know it...did i work hard for that help...you know it

hope that helps...

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15 years ago

This thread, especially this last post sounds like a pile of BS. Joelrabbit is having fun OWNING a lot of people here. Sounds a lot like my uncle Bob's stories word by word. LOL! You think he has finished the story and then he takes another zip from his bottle of Baccardi and says "but that wasn't enough..." LOL! This kid talks about money and getting it like it is water. Some big time IMer lent him $30K without knowing him. LOL!

Some people don't have to gain financially with their fake stories. They merely are seeking for attention and validation. It feeds them. That's the norm on these type of money making forums. BHW is full of them; usually 14 year olds with very low self esteem trying to gain some IM cred. People making that amount of money are not on this forum wasting their time.

hey man, good question. I got a couple things to say:

1) I got as ready as I could, knowing it could "blow up" at anytime and id need a lot of cash. I had saved up some $$$ and had 2 credit cards that I made sure gave me the most credit possible ( i think like 12,000 or more???)

2) I actually got lucky on this part, my friend ( and huge affiliate) actually lent me 30,000 after only kowing him for a few months. I got it all back to him with interest of course with-in a month or so. That helped out ALOT!

3) But that 30K was still not enough, i needed $$$ to keep my business going full speed. who the heck wants to slow down cuz they dont have $$$$? So i went to the network and basically said this " if you want me to keep doing numbers like this, you need to pay me even sooner ( i was on weeklies) but now i was getting paid 2 times a week.

4) I only ended up needing to borrow about 4k from my parents, and paid them back 2 days later after I was paid by the network

Basically it was a big crap shoot, but found a way to get the money and get the full value i could out of the opportunity at the time. Did i get help? you know it...did i work hard for that help...you know it

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by jeswarrior

This thread, especially this last post sounds like a pile of BS. Joelrabbit is having fun OWNING a lot of people here. Sounds a lot like my uncle Bob's stories word by word. LOL! You think he has finished the story and then he takes another zip from his bottle of Baccardi and says "but that wasn't enough..." LOL! This kid talks about money and getting it like it is water. Some big time IMer lent him $30K without knowing him. LOL!

Some people don't have to gain financially with their fake stories. They merely are seeking for attention and validation. It feeds them. That's the norm on these type of money making forums. BHW is full of them; usually 14 year olds with very low self esteem trying to gain some IM cred. People making that amount of money are not on this forum wasting their time.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy crap man, if you only knew this was all true. and i did know him, but it was for a pretty short amount of time to give someone a 30K check...we became really great friends really fast. all i was saying was my growth would have been a lot slower with out that.

and i dont just talk about money, i actaully gave some pretty good advice for others to make money, and if you actually read the thread, i definitely did not say it was easy, ive said over and over its a lot of work...moron

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by jeswarrior

This thread, especially this last post sounds like a pile of BS. Joelrabbit is having fun OWNING a lot of people here. Sounds a lot like my uncle Bob's stories word by word. LOL! You think he has finished the story and then he takes another zip from his bottle of Baccardi and says "but that wasn't enough..." LOL! This kid talks about money and getting it like it is water. Some big time IMer lent him $30K without knowing him. LOL!

Some people don't have to gain financially with their fake stories. They merely are seeking for attention and validation. It feeds them. That's the norm on these type of money making forums. BHW is full of them; usually 14 year olds with very low self esteem trying to gain some IM cred. People making that amount of money are not on this forum wasting their time.

Sorry had to read your funny post again, and just point out a few things...

1) did you ever sit to think, that maybe the reason i dont post for so long, is b/c i am doing other things?
2) just by using the words " that kind of money" when really i was not making that much at all compared to a lot of people, proves you have no idea about how this industry works
3) no need for a #3

good luck being broke

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

hey man, good question. I got a couple things to say:

1) I got as ready as I could, knowing it could "blow up" at anytime and id need a lot of cash. I had saved up some $$$ and had 2 credit cards that I made sure gave me the most credit possible ( i think like 12,000 or more???)

2) I actually got lucky on this part, my friend ( and huge affiliate) actually lent me 30,000 after only kowing him for a few months. I got it all back to him with interest of course with-in a month or so. That helped out ALOT!

3) But that 30K was still not enough, i needed $$$ to keep my business going full speed. who the heck wants to slow down cuz they dont have $$$$? So i went to the network and basically said this " if you want me to keep doing numbers like this, you need to pay me even sooner ( i was on weeklies) but now i was getting paid 2 times a week.

4) I only ended up needing to borrow about 4k from my parents, and paid them back 2 days later after I was paid by the network

Basically it was a big crap shoot, but found a way to get the money and get the full value i could out of the opportunity at the time. Did i get help? you know it...did i work hard for that help...you know it

hope that helps...

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cheers joel,

makes a lot more sense to me now as i couldnt work out how you could go so fast over such a short period of time with such a 'small' amount of capital back in july.

your IM friend who lent you the $30k - despite some of the cynics finding that aspect of your tale as being unbelievable, personally, i find it highly believable as ive been in similar situations myself when doing property deals and another trader will stump the cash up when youre short of a deposit on a good looking deal.

also comes down to how you appear to other people and how you appear to me, is someone who is sincere and genuine.

i could be wrong, of course i could. but at the end of the day, i believe your information and advice to be truw and will be influenced by it when moving forward, whereas those who are sceptical or even negative towards you wont be influenced by what theyve read here.

im grateful for your time on this thread. thanks.

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15 years ago

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cheers joel,

makes a lot more sense to me now as i couldnt work out how you could go so fast over such a short period of time with such a 'small' amount of capital back in july.

your IM friend who lent you the $30k - despite some of the cynics finding that aspect of your tale as being unbelievable, personally, i find it highly believable as ive been in similar situations myself when doing property deals and another trader will stump the cash up when youre short of a deposit on a good looking deal.

also comes down to how you appear to other people and how you appear to me, is someone who is sincere and genuine.

i could be wrong, of course i could. but at the end of the day, i believe your information and advice to be truw and will be influenced by it when moving forward, whereas those who are sceptical or even negative towards you wont be influenced by what theyve read here.

im grateful for your time on this thread. thanks.

thanks man, and yah i just read that guys post saying im all full of #&%! ha, pretty funny...i have a feeling he is a very broke man.

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jamiedot 15 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

thanks man, and yah i just read that guys post saying im all full of #&%! ha, pretty funny...i have a feeling he is a very broke man.

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broke? maybe not. just sceptical perhaps? if somebody is exposed to what appear to be outrageous claims and they have no personal experience of anything similar, then theres no 'appears to be' about it, the claims ARE outrageous.

i cant speak from personal experience in CPA, but ive got my own business experiences outside of internet and its true, rapid growth is seen as 'unbelievable' by someone who doesnt understand whats being done to produce the mega results.

cant blame them for that really, but its unnecessary for them to criticise without asking questions first.

interesting to see others with similar winning CPA backgrounds coming onto this thread in support of what youre saying
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  WOW this is so incredibly inspiring man!
  forget the haters and tire-kickers, why would a man spend months facilitating a lie when anyone can go on FB and see money is being made, do your CPL research if you are truly interested in the content of this thread
  
  Ive been looking for a great way to market these CPLs and I read this blog from beginning to end and I think this is it! so first and only question i have before i follow in your footsteps
  
  what is your current profit for april 2010? current as in whenever you see this.
  
  Thanks man you are a great person to be helping truly driven people out like this and please disregard the skeptics, this world is full of them and there is nothing wrong with warranted skepticism, but anyone who actually reads this post and has common sense can see the sense in this marketing method for CPL's so skepticism goes out the window..
  
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  WOW this is so incredibly inspiring man!
  forget the haters and tire-kickers
  
  so true, so much time is wasted doing this - just jump in and start trying stuff
  
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15 years ago

Impressive. Well done

I am just starting up on CPA so I appreciate all the success stories.

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DudleyDog 15 years ago

Yeh, me too. This thread is a goldmine of information. It's a shame so many people can't be bothered to read it ALL.

Thanks to all who contributed so far especially joelrait & kenster
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15 years ago

Hey Joelraitt, congratulations on your success. I have to say some people are stupid and seriously don't understand what revenue and profit actually is =D

Anyways, I was wondering is there any type of landing page that you create, any certain technique when creating the landing pages.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by willyboy104

Hey Joelraitt, congratulations on your success. I have to say some people are stupid and seriously don't understand what revenue and profit actually is =D

Anyways, I was wondering is there any type of landing page that you create, any certain technique when creating the landing pages.

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Ummm...well im just chaing the way i do this, before iw ould only test 2 LP's that looked almost the same. I'm moving more towards trying 2 LP's that look DIFFERENT and testing them. take the winner, then tweak it till its the best i think it can be. then make a whole new one. ( this is assuming a more long term campain)

a good idea is to start with what the lp of the offer looks like, same colors and stuff, then people think they are on the same page....

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15 years ago

Good jump dude! That's way too much

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15 years ago

wow impressive earnings there, well done

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15 years ago

Hello, are you creating the landing pages yourself. Basically, what's your landing page strategy. I've been getting slapped lately by adwords because of poor quality score with cpa lp's. So what, for an email submit, we have to create a mini content site, with related articles, and link out to authority sites in the footer.

But, I know you're not using adwords, or atleast earlier you were using FB, do they have any strict policy on landing pages. Zip and Email submits don't work too well over there do they?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by mikkosant

Hello, are you creating the landing pages yourself. Basically, what's your landing page strategy. I've been getting slapped lately by adwords because of poor quality score with cpa lp's. So what, for an email submit, we have to create a mini content site, with related articles, and link out to authority sites in the footer.

But, I know you're not using adwords, or atleast earlier you were using FB, do they have any strict policy on landing pages. Zip and Email submits don't work too well over there do they?

Thanks for your time.

Yha new rules just came on on FB, a lot tougher for affilaites now, zips are pretty much done, although i never did them before.

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15 years ago

any more details

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Nestork

15 years ago

First of all congratulations joelraitt! You are inspiring.
I have 2 questions:
1) Do you sell your own product/service or you are an affiliate that sells for a sponsor?
2) Could tell at something about what kind of the product/service you are selling?

Many thanks. Forgive my poor english.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Nestork

First of all congratulations joelraitt! You are inspiring.
I have 2 questions:
1) Do you sell your own product/service or you are an affiliate that sells for a sponsor?
2) Could tell at something about what kind of the product/service you are selling?

Many thanks. Forgive my poor english.

Nope, i do not sell my own product. and i do mostly cpl stuff...read above.

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15 years ago

PPC indeed is the best way to get traffic.Great job, hope your success continues.

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webfighter

15 years ago

from $27 to 5 figures is a really nice figure
i have a friend earning 50k+/month with ppv and ppc , i am on my way to reach big figures as well, but i am not as expert as you, will take some experience but i am learning quickly.

one question - which one do you think is best? ppc or ppv?
which one is getting saturated quickly?
I have knowledge about ppv and media buys, but i have not started out with ppc.

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Edk

15 years ago

Just when I, and I suspect many many others had given up on PPC!

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15 years ago

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ChadH

15 years ago

Joel.. congrats on your success. I think you should break down your bottle neck for a few people. For myself, I did about $120K in 3 months at around 100% roi, but what I did was split click charges between 2 credit cards at a 10K limit each. I'm amazed you had to borrow 30k. Were you not getting good terms from your networks?

Guys, when doing this kind of volume it's essential to get wires weekly at the very least.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by ChadH

Joel.. congrats on your success. I think you should break down your bottle neck for a few people. For myself, I did about $120K in 3 months at around 100% roi, but what I did was split click charges between 2 credit cards at a 10K limit each. I'm amazed you had to borrow 30k. Were you not getting good terms from your networks?

Guys, when doing this kind of volume it's essential to get wires weekly at the very least.

Didnt have much capital man, I was on weekly wires, then got moved to twice a week wires. Stuff got a little crazy for a bit. lol

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15 years ago

Congratulations mate, your story is inspiring

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by xnice

Now I know how you work, but if during your campaign , some problem occur out of your predict. I see PPC like a gamble, a little people can success, and others were lose.

-Yes, but the more positive your ROI is, the more you can leverage your investment.

For example, let's say you invest in an ad campaign with an initial capital of $100. Now, let's say that the ad runs for a few weeks, and you have spent $30 of that initial capital on clicks - but you've made $80 on conversions. Now, because of the conversions, you have your original investment capital ($100) back, PLUS $50. So, investing that $50 back in to the campaign that is already seeing a positive ROI/good conversion rate, is a lot easier to do and poses very little risk.

Just remember, no matter how much money you make, that extra money is STILL money (not potato chips) - so use it wisely, not carelessly.

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15 years ago

hi joel
which is your primary cpa network you work with?

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15 years ago

This thread for some reason just reminds me of this below. Some SOB long string of events from borrowing 30K from a guy he barely knows to the "but that wasn't enough" story on this post here: http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...ml#post1956672

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15 years ago

try to make things more realistic for newbies here because we are here to learn and not to post results results without knowing how you did it cld you be more simple ?

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15 years ago

This is a very good figure. Good luck with your ventures.

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15 years ago

Hello, sorry to get of the subject but I have been seaerching for a few good banner networks, any suggestions? thnx in advance, T

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15 years ago

Hi Joel,

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jamiedot

15 years ago

just BUMPING this thread back up to the top to see whether or not joel is lurking around and can provide us with more updates on his progress. its almost a year to the day since he began his CPA journey....

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joelraitt

14 years ago

hey guys, wow its been a long time since coming onto this forum, and yah a couple months over a year since i started.

i dunno if people even read this anymore haha but i skimmed through it and this was a pretty good thread i think...

anyways jamiedot asked what id been upto/ how business is going...

so i have learnt A LOT!

- CPA marketing is a great place to start, nyone can do it with little to no $ invested...(having the money ready to scale is nice though)

- it's all about building assets, like lists or web properties you can actually control...cpa you're at the mercy of the traffic or offer owner...

- so ive been building / monetizing lists, its a whole new ball game but im getting pretty good at i, ive also been working on larger projects with the idea of turning them into offers ill promote myself, or take to a network once it's proven.

- ive also been doing quite a bit of mailing on a CPM basis, basically renting out a list and mailing offers, met a lot of people that way, now im getting into brokering offers that i have access to huge payments for...see how that goes

- basically there are 1000's of ways to make money online and let me say im enjoying learning and doing all of them

- partnering is key, i can now partner with other very successful people to work on projects with me, makes t a lot more fuin and a lot more successful

- the key is to grind and grind and grind until you earn the respect of others and they are willing to parnter with you, there isno way that these people would partner with me if i was like....hi, im joel, im new to this and have made zero dollars and have zero experiance..." would you partner with that guy? you have to make a name for yourself, goto the shows, talk the talk, walk the walk...things get way easierafter a certain point

well this is a bit of a mess of a post, just spraying out a bunch of unorganized thoughts,

how are you guys? has anyone had any success after ready my post? let me know

joel

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SquidProxies.com

14 years ago

wow impressive earnings there, well done

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14 years ago

Congrats! =)

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japal

14 years ago

too much hype not enough info to help i think. It really helps to know the step by step actions to do something

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Originally Posted by japal

too much hype not enough info to help i think. It really helps to know the step by step actions to do something

did you read the thread? i highly doubt it...
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williamrs

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ebay

Damn man, how much money did you spend to get that much revenue? I want to get started in PPC but I only have like $1,000 that's not tied up in other stuff right now.

$1K is a good budget and can be enough for you to start making money with PPC.

You just need to find a simple method and don't start with complex campaigns that require a lot of testing and investment.

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joelraitt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

$1K is a good budget and can be enough for you to start making money with PPC.

You just need to find a simple method and don't start with complex campaigns that require a lot of testing and investment.

William

Hmmmm yah $1k is an ok amount, honestly its a bit less then what id want to start with. just in case it takes longer then you think.

anyways hit me up, i got some ideas that might work for you that i just dont have time for right now...

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philipdenn

14 years ago

Looks like you found one early and are reaping the rewards.PPC is a high run a risk high honor game for newbies though since sometimes you have to trial and test and test and lose your shirt before finding a winning campaign.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by philipdenn

Looks like you found one early and are reaping the rewards.PPC is a high run a risk high honor game for newbies though since sometimes you have to trial and test and test and lose your shirt before finding a winning campaign.

yes and no....if you got a plan you dont have to invest to much until you find a winner, the key is to get out of the mindset of a 'normal cpa campaign' where you just buy a visitor (through an ad) and then send them to your page (hope they click through) then hope they convert on the offer.

i used to do that....so dumb, you got to give yourself a better chance in other ways

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

yes and no....if you got a plan you dont have to invest to much until you find a winner, the key is to get out of the mindset of a 'normal cpa campaign' where you just buy a visitor (through an ad) and then send them to your page (hope they click through) then hope they convert on the offer.

i used to do that....so dumb, you got to give yourself a better chance in other ways

Are you saying that you've progressed beyond using just the basic strategy that you've been talking about in this thread, and that using this basic strategy alone, is dumb?

How do you go wide? Do you just adjust the geographic region?

When do you stop using a profitable ad? I think this is probably really important since we don't want to lose what we've just made.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Oppimus Prime

Are you saying that you've progressed beyond using just the basic strategy that you've been talking about in this thread, and that using this basic strategy alone, is dumb?

How do you go wide? Do you just adjust the geographic region?

When do you stop using a profitable ad? I think this is probably really important since we don't want to lose what we've just made.

Thanks for any help

Not sure I get your first questions Oppimius Prime, that strategies talk about in here and basic but they worked for me, I try other stuff now as well...but those are the basics or the foundation.

Scaling to me means decreasing targeting, or increasing the countries or demographic size.

It depends, I have ads that I ran the first noght and lots $250, but I had a feeling it would work since previous campgians similar to it converted better in the morning...I can it the next morning at around 100% ROI and it lasted for a long time...

Depends on payout size, demographic size, give things a chance.

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Kenster

14 years ago

In general, the more testing budget you have, the quicker you will find winning campaigns, but by no means do you need a huge testing budget to make it with PPC or any industry.

Its about testing small, optimizing as you continue testing and then scaling once it had potential.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kenster

In general, the more testing budget you have, the quicker you will find winning campaigns, but by no means do you need a huge testing budget to make it with PPC or any industry.

Its about testing small, optimizing as you continue testing and then scaling once it had potential.

I agree with you, but form what I have learnt you need to leverage your paid traffic with 'free or viral' traffic to get much better returns...or at least have a way to make $ off them for the next 6-12+ months.

even is i pay $1.00 CPA on 1000 double opt ins ($1000 invested), and don't break even for 2 months (most of that is trust building time and not abusing the emails) everything after that for the next year or more is profit...

kinda getting off track, but i guess what im saying it get your head out of the basic cpa offer idea...ad direct linking...you need more to really succeed long term.

$1k = time is more then you need to make it

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14 years ago

Well done......

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Vulk

14 years ago

Did you get into video marketing? If so how much % of your profits do you think is from video marketing.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vulk

Did you get into video marketing? If so how much % of your profits do you think is from video marketing.

What do you mean by video marketing? Viral videos? Selling videos? Using video as paid ads?

Either way Ive never done any of those haha soooo 0% exactly. I think it has potential though

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

I agree with you, but form what I have learnt you need to leverage your paid traffic with 'free or viral' traffic to get much better returns...or at least have a way to make $ off them for the next 6-12+ months.

even is i pay $1.00 CPA on 1000 double opt ins ($1000 invested), and don't break even for 2 months (most of that is trust building time and not abusing the emails) everything after that for the next year or more is profit...

kinda getting off track, but i guess what im saying it get your head out of the basic cpa offer idea...ad direct linking...you need more to really succeed long term.

$1k = time is more then you need to make it

Absolutely 100% agree. In fact one of my biggest regrets (which is very common) is not establishing long term plays earlier. When you just get into CPA marketing, its more of a transactional mindset that people have which is okay at first because when you are first learning you just want to see results to get you motivated. But when you start to get the hang of things, thats when you really need to start thinking abuot capturing your traffic.

Think about all these email submit offers. The advertisers are normally guys like you or me. Its not Apple, its not Wal Mart, its not Best Buy. Its guys like you and me that are building lists and capturing traffic. They are buying email address for $1 if the email submit has a commission of $1. If its a successful strategy for them --which it is because theyve been around forever -- why not just capture the traffic yourself. Perhaps you wont be as good at monetizing it but you can certainly be almost as good. Why let the lead go to the other marketer on the backend?

Thats why many smart CPA marketers set up squeeze campaigns on these email and simple submits. They capture visitors email addresses themselves through the squeeze AND THEN send people to the email submit for some front end cash. If they can break even doing this, then they are essentially building massive lists for free!

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I disagree with that. I am writing a WSO right now that will be out in a couple days that gives affilates a complete blueprint to make money with offline affiliate marketing, which is WAY, WAY, WAY more profitable than PPC or any other kinds of paid advertisement. Yes, you're right, most WSO's are junk but there are good ones, and some of them have given tips that turn newbies into experts in a short time.

I have seen many WSOs and all kinds of non-WSO eBooks and many are garbage and many are great. For $20, you may pick up one little trick you didnt know. Even if you knew the other 99.8% in the eBook, one little piece of information you learn can end up making you many thousands of times the $20 you spent. eBooks are not a necessary education but they are very inexpensive in the grand scheme of things.

Think about becoming a math major. You spend $80,000 in tuition to go to University. All the information they teach you is online for free somewhere...literally 100%. But that doesnt mean its a bad idea to go to college adn spend the 80k. Studying math in college forces you to actually sit down and learn. Trying to learn that same amount by scouring the web would be terribly difficult because there are pieces of information all over the place and its hard to put it together. The same is true about e-products.

They have their place. Necessary, no, but helpful, many of them yes!

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What do you mean by video marketing? Viral videos? Selling videos? Using video as paid ads?

Either way Ive never done any of those haha soooo 0% exactly. I think it has potential though

Video marketing in terms of getting traffic to your web page or cpa offer works. I can tell you for certain it works!

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Anthony Aires

14 years ago

GREAT Post this reminds of a great runaway campaign I had when Kindle 2 launched last year in January. Costs of $5,000 per month and profit of over $33,000 for 3 months straight until the dreaded amazon letter that killed allowing ppc promotions for the kindle. Truly a devastating day. I have yet to replicate that since I've been banned from the GOOG.

Joel I've never really been into the CPL thing and not sure what you meant by :

"Really just by looking at the LP, stay away from CC's to start. A lot easier. And I tried lots of **** till I hit one...I tried email and zip but payout were to small. Anything between 3.8 and 5 are the best cuz they are soft leads and payouts high enough to make $$"

what's cc and what's LP

Also do you mind sharing what are the trustworthy networks the ones that pay. would really appreciate that info.

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jeffrey73 14 years ago

Originally Posted by anthonyaires

what's cc and what's LP

CC stands for "Credit Card"

And LP stands for "Landing Page" or pre-sell to the offer.
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  CC stands for "Credit Card"
  
  And LP stands for "Landing Page" or pre-sell to the offer.
  
  thank jeff for answering thing, and anthony...id stick with Neverblue, i know they always pay.
  
  but a lot of smaller networks are gaining a good reputation, C2M is good. EWA (ryan eagle) is good as well
  
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amolwagh

14 years ago

Hey, Need your suggestion.

If I have 50$ per day to spend & got a CPA network where I can get good CPA or CPL offers. Then what should be my approach to invest money on PPC like Facebook ads or Adwords ??

Does CPA converts more or CPL ?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by amolwagh

Hey, Need your suggestion.

If I have 50$ per day to spend & got a CPA network where I can get good CPA or CPL offers. Then what should be my approach to invest money on PPC like Facebook ads or Adwords ??

Does CPA converts more or CPL ?

i like cpl myself, if i was you id use facebook, target using keywords and age and sex, to get a high ctr (and cheap clicks) build an pt in page, create follow ups, then 'recomened' items for sale

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jrodriguez315

14 years ago

An amazing thread. Took me about 6 hours to read it all. Thanks for all the information. Here is a question that will surely reveal my total noobishness . . . what is a media buy?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jrodriguez315

An amazing thread. Took me about 6 hours to read it all. Thanks for all the information. Here is a question that will surely reveal my total noobishness . . . what is a media buy?

goo job reading the thread man. anyways a 'media buy\ can sorta be used in a few ways....mostly though its just buying ads on sites through a large netwrok that controls the ad space.

stuff like myspace is sort of like a mini, sel serve media buy....

does that help?

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LOL see...this right here is whats wrong with the IM world...thats all crap, your spamming a forum hoping for one sale...youve never made $ onloine...its pathetic...no one buy from that link!!!!
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Just What You Need To Success.

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At least try to have correct grammar while you spam. Nothing screams spammer from Nigeria then broken English.
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14 years ago

OK. I thought media buys where like TV commercials or something.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by jrodriguez315

OK. I thought media buys where like TV commercials or something.

Well, media buys can be TV as well...its basically just ' buying media ' it can be online, offline, anything really...but in this industry its that...buying space on websites

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Well, media buys can be TV as well...its basically just ' buying media ' it can be online, offline, anything really...but in this industry its that...buying space on websites

Yeah, for the most part the term media buying is used to only represent buying banner space.

But then again the term internet marketing, cpa marketing, and a whole host of other terms are often used wrong as well!!

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14 years ago

Thats nice earning keep it up... which niche are your targeting?

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joelraitt 14 years ago

Originally Posted by EmpyreRJ

Thats nice earning keep it up... which niche are your targeting?

That was all in the education niche, i still do a bit of that...but rock other stuff now as well.
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  I thought I recognized your name! Joel! how the hell you doing bro? been a minute
  
  awesome to hear you stuck with it
  
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  I thought I recognized your name! Joel! how the hell you doing bro? been a minute
  
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14 years ago

I am surprised how the thread gets revived!!

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Originally Posted by BILLSBILLION

I am surprised how the thread gets revived!!

I'm glad it was revived. Great stuff! Thanks for sharing Joel.
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Ikextraprime

14 years ago

Hey Joelraitt,
I am trying to get into one of the CPA networks you recently recommended and they need a referral. Can you recommend me. PM me if you can , i do not yet have the number of required posts.

Thanks once again for sharing your experiences in this forum. I have gained a wealth of knowledge that i want to put to practice quickly.

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14 years ago

Hey Ikex,

im glad you have enjoyed the post and stuff, unfortunately I can't just give out recommendations to people I don't know...it could possibly hurt my reputation with that company...i hope this makes sense...

thanks,
joel

feel free to ask questions if you'd like though...there are also a few good post about getting into networks around

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angelawang

14 years ago

Could do let us know a little bit info about how you achive this. I am very curious and sure some of the newbs are as wel.

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Dominium

14 years ago

Originally Posted by angelawang

Could do let us know a little bit info about how you achive this. I am very curious and sure some of the newbs are as wel.

Read the thread before you post such stuff. This has been asked 999999 times. If you are trying to get your post count up - ask more useful questions. He isn't going to answer the same question again. Actually, Iam not sure, but I think that the same question is on page one of this thread.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dominium

Read the thread before you post such stuff. This has been asked 999999 times. If you are trying to get your post count up - ask more useful questions. He isn't going to answer the same question again. Actually, Iam not sure, but I think that the same question is on page one of this thread.

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djt1102

14 years ago

Thats great man keep it up! And did you only use Google Adwords? Or did you also include Bing and Yahoo?

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Soulofinfamy

14 years ago

PPC indeed my friend...best way

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ankee1991 14 years ago

For a 19 year old whose been in the CPA game for about 2 weeks it was well worth the 9 pages of reading. Gotta love working with FB ads too. Can't afford any mentoring program but if your ever able to just chat on aim or anywhere that would be cool inspiring shiiit dood.
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surmount

14 years ago

Wow! It's nearly 3 a.m. and I've just finished reading the whole thread. I must say this is an awesome knowledge sharing. Initially browsing through the topics on CPA though. This thread really is an eye-opener. Credits to Joel. Thanks man, wish you more success!

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Wow, it's been a long long time since I've been here hahah - thought this thread was totally dead...but I see a few people are still enjoying it!

How things have changed! Especially FB ads.

Lets open it up again...ask questions and I'll answer a few a day (if there are even any questions)

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13 years ago

What's your thoughts on FB ads? How are your campaigns doing on there? What's your revenue and how large is your ROI? What methods are you using? (The LP and then linking to your CPA offers?) Are you still using Adwords?

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Wow, it's been a long long time since I've been here hahah - thought this thread was totally dead...but I see a few people are still enjoying it!

How things have changed! Especially FB ads.

Lets open it up again...ask questions and I'll answer a few a day (if there are even any questions)

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by CPA Andrew

What's your thoughts on FB ads? How are your campaigns doing on there? What's your revenue and how large is your ROI? What methods are you using? (The LP and then linking to your CPA offers?) Are you still using Adwords?

I think FB ads are great. Campaigns are doing good. Don't really feel like sharing revenues, but ROI is anywhere from 300% to 50% ROI, but that's targeting wide demographics.

I usually use an LP, but some things have worked with out. I test things without LP sometimes and see if it deserves more effort.

I've barely ever used adwords.

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Are FB and POF still good places to advertise?

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Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan

Are FB and POF still good places to advertise?

Yup, Facebook is great, I have not done POF in a while, but they are also a great place to buy ads....they make $20,000,000 a year last I heard...

That's $20,000,000 in revenues from advertising...it must work...
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Dwayne Morrison

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
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13 years ago

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ButterflyIS

13 years ago

Nice work!
I wish I had that talent too

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NoobAdsenseWarrior

13 years ago

Excellent Story!

Sounds like a lot of risk taking but if its bringing you in a profit if that each month then why not if i had the capital i would do the same i think most people would,
Iv got a few questions for you though if you dont mind answering,

1, who is your mentor and how much do they charge and what is included
2, do you mentor people? if so what are your services and prices?
3, Is there any products or ebooks out there that are great for newbies to learn IM

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by creatorlogo

Excellent Story!

Sounds like a lot of risk taking but if its bringing you in a profit if that each month then why not if i had the capital i would do the same i think most people would,
Iv got a few questions for you though if you dont mind answering,

1, who is your mentor and how much do they charge and what is included
2, do you mentor people? if so what are your services and prices?
3, Is there any products or ebooks out there that are great for newbies to learn IM

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Mentor (friend) - can't say...he's still my 'mentor' i guess but 99.9 % just a sick friend. We just talk internet and business b/c we like it so much.

I did mentor a few people but I didn't like it to much. I'm better of spending that time on my own stuff, especially now.

I heard that nickycakes free IM noobie guide is really good to get started. no BS ' trick to make 456,97 a day' stuff. Check that out.

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ButterflyIS

Nice work!
I wish I had that talent too

Talent? haha I have the least talent out there. My friends (in the same industry) bug me non-stop about how handicapped I am with computers, programming, design....

Talent you don't need. Some have it and it's nice. I hire them or grind it out on my own.
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golf69

13 years ago

Wow. great results!

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ddduy1990

13 years ago

First of all congratulations on your success, I did start with PPC as i first jumped in IM field and got my "blood" sucked by somewhat called "gurus" and they told me that PPC is easy and it earns a lot etc...So I jumped on it and tried to make some money all excited put in 100 dollar into my Directcpv account and 100 dollar was gone basically in couple days....So never had so much success with it^^

Really great thread, that you are sharing your experience and tips that can help people like me.

Got some questions hoping you could clarify them

1) You said you would stick with neverblue what about Clickbank? They also pay don't they?

2)How do you create your landing page? With Dreamweaver?

3)What is split testing and how do i test it?

4)Which one is better? PPC or CPV

5)Which CPV or PPV network is recommended to use for traffics/leads? I know there is TrafficVance, Media Traffic and so on, but which one you would recommend?

6)How do you create your ads? With some software?

Thank you very much
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Sincerely to your success
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genew 13 years ago

Woa, that is really cool. And I guess it prooves that it's possible to succeed as long as you try hard enought and never quit!
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by ddduy1990

Got some questions hoping you could clarify them

1) You said you would stick with neverblue what about Clickbank? They also pay don't they?

2)How do you create your landing page? With Dreamweaver?

3)What is split testing and how do i test it?

4)Which one is better? PPC or CPV

5)Which CPV or PPV network is recommended to use for traffics/leads? I know there is TrafficVance, Media Traffic and so on, but which one you would recommend?

6)How do you create your ads? With some software?

Bui Le Duy

1) Clickbank is fine. Any of the big affiliate networks will pay. I believe in sticking with networks and building relationships rather then doing a bit here and there...better off having 1 network that will hook you up.

2) Yah dreamweaver. i usually start with templates to save time.

3) Split testing it sending a % (say 50% of the visitors to one page and 50% of visitors to another page) Change 1 variable at a time. Each page is exactly the same but the headline is different, or the Call to action is different, or the image is different. Whichever page wins the test, test the winning page against another variable and keep going until you make $.

4) I've never done much with CPV but guys make a lot of $ from it. I've done mostly fb ads. Neither is ' better' really.

5) CPV I'm not sure, there is direct CPV as well...a quick google search will tell you. I've heard good things about PPV Playbook as well...the cool thing is they actually make $ with what they teach.

6) LOL no software...my brain only. I don't use fb ad managers either I do it all by hand. Id rather have 10 ads that are REALY good then 3000 OK ads and hope to get a good one. Put more time in a few ads and youll spend less testing and have better results. Remeber to have a strong Call to action, and a strong benefit in your ads, and a very eye catching / related image.

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WhosChrisHughes

13 years ago

You did this with only 2 LP's? Have you tried testing against your best converting LP to increase conversions even more?

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Originally Posted by WhosChrisHughes

You did this with only 2 LP's? Have you tried testing against your best converting LP to increase conversions even more?

Umm for the campaign this thread was about I only used 2 LP's then kept testing the winner against a new variable I wanted to test.

*** Please note this was an old campaign since his is an old thread haha, but I use the same strategy today usually.
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13 years ago

Impressive!
Well done man;

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MohulGhosh 13 years ago

awesome accomplishment.. all the best for future campaigns!
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rekerlolz

13 years ago

This is some pretty good stuff if I might say so myself. Congrats bro!

I am gonna have to look into PPC a little bit more now

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by rekerlolz

This is some pretty good stuff if I might say so myself. Congrats bro!

I am gonna have to look into PPC a little bit more now

What do you mostly do now? SEO?
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AdWorkMedia

13 years ago

Good to see such an informational thread kept alive for so long! Please keep this going forever!

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try_hard_samurai

13 years ago

Congrats on your success!

I also spent some time looking through the thread. Really inspiring stuff.

Keep up the good work!

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Does anyone have Facebook advertising accounts with $1,000+ daily spend limit? I'll buy them off you. PM me. Free mentoring could be included...if interested.

Please message me, and don't post here!

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13 years ago

Keep up the great work! Good Job.

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JackScanlan

13 years ago

Hey bro, just wondering if you are building your lists by giving something away for free or just sending them to a landing page with content and an opt-in form?

I am experimenting with using fanpages to build lists via Facebook PPC.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by jscanlan84

Hey bro, just wondering if you are building your lists by giving something away for free or just sending them to a landing page with content and an opt-in form?

I am experimenting with using fanpages to build lists via Facebook PPC.

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Hey jack,

Good question. I just sent them to a landing page with a 'Click to Register' button (that button text worked best for me, I tested it).

I sort of wish I was collecting emails since I'd have a massive list. I was kind of new a the time. I should have split tested collecting the emails myself first and seeing how much it hurt conversions. Oh well.

I really like the fanpages idea, I have 1 decent sized fanpage. You should use hootsuite.com, its free I think for what you need.

I set up 2 weeks of posts / links at a time...takes about 2 hours and i forget about it until I need to update it again. I found i was always needing a computer to post or interact before.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

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I really like the fanpages idea, I have 1 decent sized fanpage. You should use hootsuite.com, its free I think for what you need.

I set up 2 weeks of posts / links at a time...takes about 2 hours and i forget about it until I need to update it again. I found i was always needing a computer to post or interact before.

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Hi joelraitt,

Thanks for sharing an inspirational experience.

I've never done emails, so in my mind, emailing seems as time consuming as SEO. Now, it surprised me greatly that you can, in just 2 hours, stash enough emails to last you 2 weeks.

Would you please elaborate on you method? How do you use: hootsuite.co?

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Cool Hand Luke

13 years ago

I just read the entire thread, and am duly impressed.

Please come out with a WSO or training of some sort. Although I make a hefty living off of adsense, I've been dying to get into CPA the right way. After following several WSOs to the "t" and being majorly dissapointed, it'd be great to pick up a method like yours.

Seriously, it'd be huge. Congrats either way, you have the kind of success I'm aiming for.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke

I just read the entire thread, and am duly impressed.

Please come out with a WSO or training of some sort. I've been dying to get into CPA the right way. After following several WSOs to the "t" and being majorly dissapointed, it'd be great to pick up a method like yours.

Seriously, it'd be huge. Congrats either way, you have the kind of success I'm aiming for.

I thought about a WSO...I mean I'm sure it would help...I could show my exact campaign i guess (can't run it on FB anymore) but it would give good ideas and show how to scale.

The biggest thing is to keep goign and talk / meet with people who make good money. Go to ASE, ASW and the Adtechs f you can. meet people, talk to them and so on. You got to work.

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Jonathan Price

13 years ago

Great results, are you doing any display?

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ReadyFireAim

Great results, are you doing any display?

I'm moving into display now. It's a lot different but a lot of fun as well.

Any more questions out there?!

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Ammaring

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

I'm moving into display now. It's a lot different but a lot of fun as well.

Any more questions out there?!

Great thread joelraitt. Im kinda new to IM & this thread has helped alot. I was kinda discouraged when i seen it was from 2009 but there was still a lot of good info.

I got inspired but then quickly got brought back down to earth when i let it all sink in. Which usually happens to me because im a realist. Im just worried cause it seems just to get harder and harder to make money online each and everyday. Everybody is cracking down. I feel i have the right ideas but just don't know how to implement them. I dont just have a bunch of money i can blow through and think nothing of it. Just not that well off. I used to sell on ebay for about 2 1/2 years and i pulled in about $2k profit every month till i was suspended recently, So i have an idea on how peoples minds work and what makes them want to buy and things along those lines.

I'm not interested in making a **** ton of money with this either. Id just like to pull in a thousand in profit a month then maybe move onto like three thousand a month. then go from there. So for the first time in my life i can relax and not have to think about MONEY MONEY MONEY constantly. I'm only 22 and i feel like my brain is aging rapidly faster then i am.

It's just so tough to get started when you dont know what your doing. Everyone's like just go out there and do it then 3 weeks later ur down a couple hundred bucks and you got nowhere. But you do get to learn from your mistakes and ill admit that's always been a very important thing to me. I don't mind making mistakes as long as i learn from them. But when its costing me money i don't have i start to mind, Cause im always wondering when will it stop? When will i have to stop paying for my mistakes and when will it all finally pay off?

You don't gotta give me the "well if your afraid to take the plunge then you'll never succeed" kinda bull**** cause i realize that.

I am trying and i do care. I wouldn't have typed all of this if i didn't. I'm just venting and speaking for others cause i know how you feel.

I was promoting some offers before with ppc trying to target certain ages to go along with whatever the product was. I'm not an idiot, Just trying to be careful and not lose my ass while i try to make this work. Like is said before I feel i have the right ideas but just don't know how to implement them.

And there is no reason for me to have wrote all this but im gonna hit the post button before i hit ctrl+a + delete

thanks again for the info

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ammaring

Great thread joelraitt. Im kinda new to IM & this thread has helped alot. I was kinda discouraged when i seen it was from 2009 but there was still a lot of good info.

I got inspired but then quickly got brought back down to earth when i let it all sink in. Which usually happens to me because im a realist. Im just worried cause it seems just to get harder and harder to make money online each and everyday. Everybody is cracking down. I feel i have the right ideas but just don't know how to implement them. I dont just have a bunch of money i can blow through and think nothing of it. Just not that well off. I used to sell on ebay for about 2 1/2 years and i pulled in about $2k profit every month till i was suspended recently, So i have an idea on how peoples minds work and what makes them want to buy and things along those lines.

I'm not interested in making a **** ton of money with this either. Id just like to pull in a thousand in profit a month then maybe move onto like three thousand a month. then go from there. So for the first time in my life i can relax and not have to think about MONEY MONEY MONEY constantly. I'm only 22 and i feel like my brain is aging rapidly faster then i am.

It's just so tough to get started when you dont know what your doing. Everyone's like just go out there and do it then 3 weeks later ur down a couple hundred bucks and you got nowhere. But you do get to learn from your mistakes and ill admit that's always been a very important thing to me. I don't mind making mistakes as long as i learn from them. But when its costing me money i don't have i start to mind, Cause im always wondering when will it stop? When will i have to stop paying for my mistakes and when will it all finally pay off?

You don't gotta give me the "well if your afraid to take the plunge then you'll never succeed" kinda bull**** cause i realize that.

I am trying and i do care. I wouldn't have typed all of this if i didn't. I'm just venting and speaking for others cause i know how you feel.

I was promoting some offers before with ppc trying to target certain ages to go along with whatever the product was. I'm not an idiot, Just trying to be careful and not lose my ass while i try to make this work. Like is said before I feel i have the right ideas but just don't know how to implement them.

And there is no reason for me to have wrote all this but im gonna hit the post button before i hit ctrl+a + delete

thanks again for the info

hey man, great post! that is exactly how i felt before I started seeing success online! just keep going and working harder and harder...there are still a LOT of people making A LOT of money online....pm me if yo uhave any questions or we can chat a bit more!

i feel like you got what it takes man!

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13 years ago

That is awesome! Looking forward to the day that happens. Time to get working on it

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imagene

13 years ago

There is absolutely no way that I am going to read this entire thread without putting in my 2 cents

Firstly, Joel man thanks for the share. I've got a page of full of bullet points and some great nuggets of info to implement into my own biz plan now. For me, threads are like books - if you make it through the first few posts then chances are, you're gonna read them all the way through. Ahh, wasn't until halfway through 2010 when I was like...ummm this may take some time.

But just like any business online or offline perseverance is key!

The advantage I and others who are seeing this thread for the first time is that there are some really good case studies on here, and you can see what has worked in the past, whats still working now and what isn't. I came into this part of the forum having NEVER done CPA before and I wanted to see if I could be persuaded to give it a go. So this information has given me some really good historical insight. So thanks again Joel and all of the other positive and constructive contributors to this thread!

@Ammaring...take heart...you persevered on ebay for 2.5 years which already shows you have the chutzpah to keep going in this business. What I'm finding out is that in this forum we are all learning in some way or other - and whoever says they're not are full of it! Stay positive and keep going...like Joel said there are still a LOT of people making a LOT of money online. There's enough there for everyone

No questions at this point, just gratitude.

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Bwick

13 years ago

To make it with PPC is almost is hard as winning the lottery .no?

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Originally Posted by Bwick

To make it with PPC is almost is hard as winning the lottery .no?

Maybe with Google Adwords lol, but not with other PPC
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MrOfferz

13 years ago

Maybe I missed this, but what vertical was your offer in?

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by MrOfferz

Maybe I missed this, but what vertical was your offer in?

Hey,

It was education lead gen. Good times.
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- nicnac03 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by joelraitt
  
  Hey,
  
  It was education lead gen. Good times.
  
  So you're saying lead gens are dead on Facebook now? On a previous post you said the initial campaign that you ran is now dead.
  
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  Originally Posted by nicnac03
  
  So you're saying lead gens are dead on Facebook now? On a previous post you said the initial campaign that you ran is now dead.
  
  Leadgen is far from dead....just this specific offer is no longer available. Sorry for the confusion.
  
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  celente 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by joelraitt
  
  Leadgen is far from dead....just this specific offer is no longer available. Sorry for the confusion.
  
  I was wondering about this. I was nearly going to investigate this for myself, but thanks for clearing that up.
  
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  chrisjenva 13 years ago
  
  Wow that's great. I plan on getting into ppc and cpa in the coming months. All the info in this thread has been extremely helpful. Thanks everyone for your input.
  
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michaelpotter

13 years ago

Great post because it shows newbies that to make money you will have to spend money. And that to have a 5,000 USD Month may well cost you. i.e. Revenue 20k Adspend 15k profit 5k

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by michaelpotter

Great post because it shows newbies that to make money you will have to spend money. And that to have a 5,000 USD Month may well cost you. i.e. Revenue 20k Adspend 15k profit 5k

It's true but you have to watch. Things are surprisingly consistent when you find the patterns. Certain hours...certain days...

I always find it better to take a lower margin on a more 'wide spread' campaign - although recently, broad campaigns with high ROI are even better - so much opportunity out there.

Don't forget to actually do work and try things...don't just read forever.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by michaelpotter

Great post because it shows newbies that to make money you will have to spend money. And that to have a 5,000 USD Month may well cost you. i.e. Revenue 20k Adspend 15k profit 5k

means, if we don't have capital, we can't start CPA?

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by CindyRoosen

means, if we don't have capital, we can't start CPA?

Not at all...of course you till can....just be ready...have credit available to use on a ALREADY PROFITABLE campaign...

Also...if you find a offer that's working for you...and you're running out of money...tell the network...they will give you better terms

The network I was working with was paying me 2x a week just so I could keep paying my bills!!!!

There is always a way...
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- rkat55 13 years ago
  
  Joel, thanks for wasting the last hour of my time reading
  this whole dang thread. JUST KIDDING!
  
  Great thread. Really really valuable information.
  
  Thanks, thanks thanks! Hope you keep this going.
  
  Reminds of years ago, when I was into commodity trading
  and a guy with a ton of experience had a huge thread going
  on a forum that I don't even think exists anymore and taught
  all us newbies a ton of stuff. It was great.
  
  This thread is starting to remind of that.
  
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CindyRoosen

13 years ago

Wow! I am very much interested to know about all the thing you did to achieve that revenue in less than a year.

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outwest

13 years ago

Hi Joel,
I firmly believe what you said is possible but this is what I am confused about

you say in July you made less than $100, Ok I understand you learn quickly find something that works, scale up, throw out bad campaigns, test test, test, scale up etc

but as far as I can see the limiting factor which would constantly come up with newbies like you were at the time, like I am at the present time, is the 30 days NET program most sponsors put newbies on.

Can you give an example of how its possible to achieve these numbers, and scale up? I cannot imagine some numbers like this being possible unless someone had like 10,000 to 20,000 dollars budget to start with. Can you explain the possible scenario this involves in this short period of time by scaling up from a small amount of initial budget

But do not take this as me doubting your numbers, It is just I cannot envision the timetables involved and how the numbers work

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by outwest

Hi Joel,
I firmly believe what you said is possible but this is what I am confused about

you say in July you made less than $100, Ok I understand you learn quickly find something that works, scale up, throw out bad campaigns, test test, test, scale up etc

but as far as I can see the limiting factor which would constantly come up with newbies like you were at the time, like I am at the present time, is the 30 days NET program most sponsors put newbies on.

Can you give an example of how its possible to achieve these numbers, and scale up? I cannot imagine some numbers like this being possible unless someone had like 10,000 to 20,000 dollars budget to start with. Can you explain the possible scenario this involves in this short period of time by scaling up from a small amount of initial budget

But do not take this as me doubting your numbers, It is just I cannot envision the timetables involved and how the numbers work

Fair enough, i think i went over this somewhere...but one of the smartest things I did was got as much credit as possible BEFORE my big campaign.

Again, I was lucky enough to have a friend who funded me, I even had to borrow a bit from my parents...when the opportunity is there you have to take it.

It was risky but paid off...I had all cards maxed, no money in the bank, and I had borrowed 35,000. Fun stuff...and scary.

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MarathonMan

13 years ago

JoelRaitt - first, as a successful IM trying to get into CPA marketing for the first time, this thread has been the most useful I have found, anywhere. Thank you, from me and everyone else in my shoes!

I'm about to get down and dirty and try my first campaign. What traffic source do you believe is the best and easiest to work with for someone preparing to test and learn wit their first campaign? How long should I run my first test campaign before modifying / aborting?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by MarathonMan

JoelRaitt - first, as a successful IM trying to get into CPA marketing for the first time, this thread has been the most useful I have found, anywhere. Thank you, from me and everyone else in my shoes!

I'm about to get down and dirty and try my first campaign. What traffic source do you believe is the best and easiest to work with for someone preparing to test and learn wit their first campaign? How long should I run my first test campaign before modifying / aborting?

Hey MarathonMan,

I prefer to run ads on facebook, the targeting is great and the traffic is almost limitless. Which means it's possible to scale.

I'd test stuff on FB with really tight demographic and keyword targeting...go for high ROI and low spend to start. All the big guys do low targeting with big spend but ROI is usualy a bit tighter (but more profit overall).

Let it run long enough...its hard to say really...I've ran an add in the evening and spent $200 with no sales....ran the same ad the next morning and it was 100% ROI or somewhere around there....and it stayed like that...you just never know....go with your gut.

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Rogbog

13 years ago

Sounds like you need to ramp this puppy up big time! $13,000 so far in profit! Just double your efforts and double your profits. you have aready done is so far....Now simply rinse and repeat dude!

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Rogbog

Sounds like you need to ramp this puppy up big time! $13,000 so far in profit! Just double your efforts and double your profits. you have aready done is so far....Now simply rinse and repeat dude!

that 13000 dollar post is from 2009, I think he has ramped it up since then

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Andrew Zapp

13 years ago

Well done. It's all about working hard for your dollar. Good to see how quick you've come in such a short time. I expect that now you're making a lot more.

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13 years ago

u are usring adsense or any other ads network.Anywzyz congrats for ur success

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13 years ago

Well done... I am a begnniner at CPA networks.

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13 years ago

How Much Did You Paid ??
And Which Network Have You Choosen

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13 years ago

Wow congratulations! That's a huge deal! Nice job and keep up the great work. But don't forget other things in life too!

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kavitapore

13 years ago

Hello joelraitt and everybody, I am newbai and thanks for discussing this good topic, helped me a lot, :p

Can any one tell me what is zilch, rebills.
Also I got approved by GoOffers - anybody tell me is it good site.
Also tell me meaning of - (No incentivized traffic is allowed):confused:
what is traking URL, is it same through which i am going to advertise and get paid.
what is impression pixel? is it necessory to add?
what is conversion URL / pixel? Is that code is require?
Each page of detail offer includes following data which is I am not able to understand.
data is...........

Add third-party conversion tracking pixels and postback URLs below. The system will dynamically replace several optional variables.
Add New Conversion Pixels / URL
Type: java / html / image
HTML or JavaScript Code for Client (Cookie) Tracking.
Add Image Pixel:
Plus there are lot of operational variables.

Hope my question will answer sombody by tommrow and then

I might start my 1st CPA campain start within two days!, let's see what happens.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by kavitapore

Hello joelraitt and everybody, I am newbai and thanks for discussing this good topic, helped me a lot, :p

Can any one tell me what is zilch, rebills.
Also I got approved by GoOffers - anybody tell me is it good site.
Also tell me meaning of - (No incentivized traffic is allowed):confused:
what is traking URL, is it same through which i am going to advertise and get paid.
what is impression pixel? is it necessory to add?
what is conversion URL / pixel? Is that code is require?
Each page of detail offer includes following data which is I am not able to understand.
data is...........

Add third-party conversion tracking pixels and postback URLs below. The system will dynamically replace several optional variables.
Add New Conversion Pixels / URL
Type: java / html / image
HTML or JavaScript Code for Client (Cookie) Tracking.
Add Image Pixel:
Plus there are lot of operational variables.

Hope my question will answer sombody by tommrow and then

I might start my 1st CPA campain start within two days!, let's see what happens.

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First off man, lots of this can be found just by g googling it...

Can any one tell me what is zilch, rebills. -
A) rebills = continuous payments (sometimes without people knowing)

Also I got approved by GoOffers - anybody tell me is it good site.
A) never worked with them

Also tell me meaning of - (No incentivized traffic is allowed):confused:
A) it means you cant give the user any 'extra' reason to fill out the offer

what is traking URL, is it same through which i am going to advertise and get paid.
A) Yah, but sometimes people hide or cloak the URL's

what is impression pixel? is it necessory to add?
a) I dont use it ever

what is conversion URL / pixel? Is that code is require?
A) the pixel needs to be placed on the network end to make sure it tracks the conversions. Not sure what you mean by tracking URL / convertion URL. Ask your affiliate manager.

Each page of detail offer includes following data which is I am not able to understand.
data is...........
A) I find the data on offers somewhat useless. EPC (earnings per click) isn't accurate...maybe they are not using a landing page, maybe they are sending ****ty low cost traffic so conversions look low...

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13 years ago

Very motivating post. Thanks!

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13 years ago

Just thought of this little question i ask my aff managers that makes a big difference...

Everyone always asks... " whats the hot offer, or whats doing really well?" i guess in hope of copying them...or something? Bad idea...all the $$$$ is made in being the first.

Ask your AM - What do you really think could work on (your traffic source here) that not enough people have tested yet?

Now that gets their brain and yours going in the direction of huge success!

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13 years ago

Well done gives me hope!

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13 years ago

Yah Jason is right...well technically advertising cost in that way is considered cost of goods sold in this scenario.

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jenniferwhittle

13 years ago

Hello!

It's so nice hearing all this earnings, it gave me more courage to invest more time in front of my computer. I hope all PPC can can be that generous. But anyway, great share back there! Congratulations!

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outwest

13 years ago

Great to see you are here still at it more than 2 yrs later, very inspiring, I am sure your techniques are even more sophisticated at this point

the fact that you shared a lot of your techniques is also very appreciated by newbies on here like me

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by outwest

Great to see you are here still at it more than 2 yrs later, very inspiring, I am sure your techniques are even more sophisticated at this point

the fact that you shared a lot of your techniques is also very appreciated by newbies on here like me

I wouldn't say 'more sophisticated' you're over thinking it man. Simpler the better in my opinion.

Glad you appreciate it.

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MIgartua

13 years ago

Whare are some great PPC sites for cheap clicks? That actually deliver traffic. I'm trying to stay away from the big ones like AdWords and Facebook. Clicks are just too expensive. I tried POF with tight demographics but still spent more than I made.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MIgartua

Whare are some great PPC sites for cheap clicks? That actually deliver traffic. I'm trying to stay away from the big ones like AdWords and Facebook. Clicks are just too expensive. I tried POF with tight demographics but still spent more than I made.

I dunno man, ive always used facebook and pof for traffic, few other places as well. I tried sitescout once and had mixed results...i dont think i tested enough though.

also, with good ads clicks are cheap...what does to expensive mean anyways? id pay 10 bucks a click if it paid me 20 a click on the affiliate side

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outwest

13 years ago

Joel what about people who say, facebook used to be good but now the clicks have gotten too expensive. In the last two years have your click costs shot up?

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by precious007

not sure how many would actually risk that kind of money.

but then again, business in general means risk.

I didn't see it as a risk....the campgain made money, the network (neverblue) was reliable and I had met them in person, i was getting paid 1-2 times a week...so I limited my risk as much as I could.

If you don't scale your campaign someone else will find it and scale it

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webdave

13 years ago

Great thread and congrats on your success... A couple of questions -
When you started you said that you tried 2 different lp's . Did you notice a big difference in conversions between the 2? How important were the landing pages to your success?
And were you running the campaigns continuously or just at specific times of the day?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by webdave

Great thread and congrats on your success... A couple of questions -
When you started you said that you tried 2 different lp's . Did you notice a big difference in conversions between the 2? How important were the landing pages to your success?
And were you running the campaigns continuously or just at specific times of the day?

Yup there was maybe a 5-10% different in conversions between the LP's. The landing pages made the offer work...i did not work without my landing pages!

I only ran them from about 5am - 1pm, after that it was usually break even...or only make a little bit...

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tylerjaysen

13 years ago

yeah I like this post because it brings out so many different opinions. I always laugh when I see these claims about making huge amounts of money in a month. Usually if it's done via PPC then they have spent a ton of dough to make that big money.

So yeah as someone said in post above, then net revenue is all that matters. The profit or the net result is what you have to spend. Of course you also have to factor in the tax portion too.

But yeah making $50k in a month can be done via PPC, but how much did it cost you in ad spend to make that? $25K spent, so a decent return eh? Doubling your money is very nice. But the problem exists when you want to repeat that same figure the next month. Spend another $25 k? If you do, then you just spent your profit from previous month.

So you must go into this game understanding the ROI (return on investment), and then once you find the winners, you scale it up.

To me, spending $3k and making $10k is a much better return and I can do that all month long with PPC.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tylerjaysen

yeah I like this post because it brings out so many different opinions. I always laugh when I see these claims about making huge amounts of money in a month. Usually if it's done via PPC then they have spent a ton of dough to make that big money.

So yeah as someone said in post above, then net revenue is all that matters. The profit or the net result is what you have to spend. Of course you also have to factor in the tax portion too.

But yeah making $50k in a month can be done via PPC, but how much did it cost you in ad spend to make that? $25K spent, so a decent return eh? Doubling your money is very nice. But the problem exists when you want to repeat that same figure the next month. Spend another $25 k? If you do, then you just spent your profit from previous month.

So you must go into this game understanding the ROI (return on investment), and then once you find the winners, you scale it up.

To me, spending $3k and making $10k is a much better return and I can do that all month long with PPC.

Hey Tyler,

You're post was kind of confusing... so you would rather spend 3k and earn 10k for 7k profit and a ROI over 200% than spend 25k and bring in 50k for 25k profit...or a 100% ROI? To me that's just plain dumb. ROI doesn't really matter...profit does.

I don't get your comment about the next month spending all the profits of 25k...spending that 25k would bring in the same 50k...earning you another 25k that month, or 50k profit total...

Why does the problem exist when you want to repeat it? You don't think you can keep doing it? I'm confused man...

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SirTestAlot

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

. ROI doesn't really matter...profit does.

Sorry but I'm not sure how you think that ROI doesn't matter. People who are just starting out have to find the campaign with the most ROI because they have extremely limited advertising funds.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by SirTestAlot

Sorry but I'm not sure how you think that ROI doesn't matter. People who are just starting out have to find the campaign with the most ROI because they have extremely limited advertising funds.

Good point man - I didn't think of that. It would be best to start with high ROI and lower spend if your funds are limited.

I guess it depends on a persons situation and funding...

But in the end I'd rather 50% ROI on 10,000 spent in a day then 200% ROI on $1000 spend in a day.

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wizbiz

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

But in the end I'd rather 50% ROI on 10,000 spent in a day then 200% ROI on $1000 spend in a day.

Hi, so, basically what you are saying, People browsing Facebook to buy

stuff.. Unless you're selling "Sex, live, love, dating, Dog/cat love stories"

Facebook is SOCIAL, not commercial network, To buy stuff, people search

Google, at least 99% of them, including you and me do that all the time.. Am I wrong?

I will go short that "Red headed dude" right at IPO , cause his Facebook = FAKEBOOK

from those " More than 425 million active users" (or whatever that number is up to date considering

gazillion accounts created by robots daily..)

50% is randomly generated by spammers, another 15% is

regular fake Identity accounts and another half is PORNO advertisers...

Man, I like to grab that domain fakebook.com to uncover all that bluff...

Good for you, that you are making all this "money" selling peanuts on

Fakebook to non-existing people.. Sure it can be done, nothing is impossible

You could win last Friday Jackpot as well..

Social network is a future? As far as I can remember, people were always trying to protect their

Identity/privacy, especially on the Internet..

So, I guess Facebook is the place for unknowing? NO.. It's all fake. 80% At least fake

accounts and fake INFO, fake photos and fake profiles.. I'm not even using my real IP,

forget about real personal data published world-wide, - it's an absurd..

And YES, I do have 3+ Fakebook accounts with more than 1000+ friends in each and those

friends (guess what?) also fake, - what a surprise..

Who the heck looking to buy stuff on the Facebook? Common.. To pick up free local chicks?

Maybe..

P.S Congrats to your success though, I used to make lot's of money as well, but those

days are long gone.. Now spending bunch of money and time to dig through all the garbage out

there to separate reality from the dreams, luckily need only 15 min. to quickly read 300 pages

.pdf

to uncover BS , and still it could probably take a decade

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joelraitt 13 years ago

haha wizbiz i have no idea what you are talking about...

so these fake people that we sell to on facebook have fake hands to grab their fake credit cards and a fake address to ship the product too?

also...im not so sure you're right on people going to google to buy stuff...who would you rather listen too...some review site from a person you dont know on google, or your lists of 500 friends you know and trust.

Haters gunna hate.
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srh41

13 years ago

Originally Posted by wizbiz

Hi, so, basically what you are saying, People browsing Facebook to buy

stuff.. Unless you're selling "Sex, live, love, dating, Dog/cat love stories"

Facebook is SOCIAL, not commercial network, To buy stuff, people search

Google, at least 99% of them, including you and me do that all the time.. Am I wrong?

I will go short that "Red headed dude" right at IPO , cause his Facebook = FAKEBOOK

from those " More than 425 million active users" (or whatever that number is up to date considering

gazillion accounts created by robots daily..)

50% is randomly generated by spammers, another 15% is

regular fake Identity accounts and another half is PORNO advertisers...

Man, I like to grab that domain fakebook.com to uncover all that bluff...

Good for you, that you are making all this "money" selling peanuts on

Fakebook to non-existing people.. Sure it can be done, nothing is impossible

You could win last Friday Jackpot as well..

Social network is a future? As far as I can remember, people were always trying to protect their

Identity/privacy, especially on the Internet..

So, I guess Facebook is the place for unknowing? NO.. It's all fake. 80% At least fake

accounts and fake INFO, fake photos and fake profiles.. I'm not even using my real IP,

forget about real personal data published world-wide, - it's an absurd..

And YES, I do have 3+ Fakebook accounts with more than 1000+ friends in each and those

friends (guess what?) also fake, - what a surprise..

Who the heck looking to buy stuff on the Facebook? Common.. To pick up free local chicks?

Maybe..

P.S Congrats to your success though, I used to make lot's of money as well, but those

days are long gone.. Now spending bunch of money and time to dig through all the garbage out

there to separate reality from the dreams, luckily need only 15 min. to quickly read 300 pages

.pdf

to uncover BS , and still it could probably take a decade

Dude it's ppc on facebook.
he's not spamming anyone, the ads are on the right of the page...shesh

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wizbiz 13 years ago

Originally Posted by srh41

Dude it's ppc on facebook.
he's not spamming anyone, the ads are on the right of the page...shesh

I knew that, dude..
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webdave

13 years ago

How did you create the LP's - Were you using some kind of software or did you have them made for you?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by webdave

How did you create the LP's - Were you using some kind of software or did you have them made for you?

Hey webdave...the LP design was based off the offer design and colors...this way when they click to the offer page it feels like the same website...I find that`s a good place to start.

You should get your mind out of this `software` bull crap - make your own LP's until you make enough to hire it out...then at least you can make small tweeks to the LP's you have made...saves time more then anything.

Good luck!

Anyone else have any questions?!?!?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey webdave...the LP design was based off the offer design and colors...this way when they click to the offer page it feels like the same website...I find that`s a good place to start.

You should get your mind out of this `software` bull crap - make your own LP's until you make enough to hire it out...then at least you can make small tweeks to the LP's you have made...saves time more then anything.

Good luck!

Anyone else have any questions?!?!?

Literally speaking, how do you make a landing page? Do you buy a domain, get hosting, and then use Wordpress? Or is there something other than Wordpress that works better for making LPs?

Also, when starting your ads in Facebook, where do you set your CPC bid given Facebook's suggested range? For example, if they suggest 0.48-1.07, what would you bid when first submitting the ad? I am very new to this, but on my 2nd day I created a profitable campaign that generated a few hundred dollars...however I could not figure out how to draw more traffic and scale up the volume even though I had the money available to do it. When I submit new ads, it seems like they get a reach of only a few hundred people and then stall out, not getting shown very much after that. What am I missing?

Great thread...

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by PPCn00b

Literally speaking, how do you make a landing page? Do you buy a domain, get hosting, and then use Wordpress? Or is there something other than Wordpress that works better for making LPs?

Also, when starting your ads in Facebook, where do you set your CPC bid given Facebook's suggested range? For example, if they suggest 0.48-1.07, what would you bid when first submitting the ad? I am very new to this, but on my 2nd day I created a profitable campaign that generated a few hundred dollars...however I could not figure out how to draw more traffic and scale up the volume even though I had the money available to do it. When I submit new ads, it seems like they get a reach of only a few hundred people and then stall out, not getting shown very much after that. What am I missing?

Great thread...

Good questions...

I always like to bid at the top of the sug or above to start, giving the ad the top spot and hopefully a better CTR. What do you have your daily budget set at? Try increasing that?

It's a lot about testing man, keep inceasing bids till you get traffic!

Nice work!

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey webdave...the LP design was based off the offer design and colors...this way when they click to the offer page it feels like the same website...I find that`s a good place to start.

You should get your mind out of this `software` bull crap - make your own LP's until you make enough to hire it out...then at least you can make small tweeks to the LP's you have made...saves time more then anything.

Good luck!

Anyone else have any questions?!?!?

OK then were you taking the offer page and then editing it with GIMP or Photoshop to make it into a LP?

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Originally Posted by webdave

OK then were you taking the offer page and then editing it with GIMP or Photoshop to make it into a LP?

Or sometimes you can just go files save as, webpage...then use the files in dreamweaver and make the edits you want. Or what I do is just hire someone to make a copy of the page with an easy to edit images, bullet points, headline...or w/e i want on the page...I just show them the offer page so then they know to base everything off that!
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Maraun

13 years ago

Yes, me! Why do I always start reading your thread from page 1 for a few minutes before I realize that this thing is like 3 years old and that I've read it already? Everytime. Single. Time. Gah.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Maraun

Yes, me! Why do I always start reading your thread from page 1 for a few minutes before I realize that this thing is like 3 years old and that I've read it already? Everytime. Single. Time. Gah.

haha I guess it's just that good of a thread....plus all the info is still accurate today...not much has changed in the way of fundamentals!

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sabreena

13 years ago

Hello,

That is impressive and informative post... thanks....

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by opatrao24

hey man could you post some detils on how u did this

Serious man? There are a lot of details in this thread...
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aryangarg

13 years ago

Google Adwords killing small players since 2011 ;( .. I made more than $200k profit using adword in 2010 by investing just 30k USD. but after google changed their terms. Profit tanked to hardly 5% ;( .. and no one will take risk for just 5% profit .

Tried Facebook also. No Luck
Tried PPV : No Luck
Tried Media Buying : Not Profitable ;(

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by aryangarg

Google Adwords killing small players since 2011 ;( .. I made more than $200k profit using adword in 2010 by investing just 30k USD. but after google changed their terms. Profit tanked to hardly 5% ;( .. and no one will take risk for just 5% profit .

Tried Facebook also. No Luck
Tried PPV : No Luck
Tried Media Buying : Not Profitable ;(

haha I know lots of people still making money with adwords...

I and many others still make money on fb, ppv, and media buys...

Kind of sounds like you got lucky, hit 1 big campaign, thought you knew it all and now you cant do it again...am I right?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by aryangarg

Google Adwords killing small players since 2011 ;( .. I made more than $200k profit using adword in 2010 by investing just 30k USD. but after google changed their terms. Profit tanked to hardly 5% ;( .. and no one will take risk for just 5% profit .

Tried Facebook also. No Luck
Tried PPV : No Luck
Tried Media Buying : Not Profitable ;(

aryangarg: Where did you try your mediabuying, and what niches? I was looking into trying that

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ebuyer123

13 years ago

You must be promoting products with a very high profit margin, right?

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by ebuyer123

You must be promoting products with a very high profit margin, right?

Yah, I do stuff with higher margins now though...those margins were more like 25-40% ROI a day. Higher the better though.

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dakar

13 years ago

Hey Joel,

Congratulations on your huge success. I was also riding the same success as you up until last December (a few months ago). I was making about $25k a month on average for the past 2 years. All from 1 site. It wasn't CPA or CPL. It was a combination of PPC, SEO and was making money via Adsense and CPM. And I had a full time job, so the $25k was all money for my savings account.

So now I want to get into the CPA business. I agree with your theory on mentors and having good partners that can give you ideas and possibly even money (if needed). I know some people that are making over $100k a month with PPC and CPA currently. But these guys are hard workers, and are usually up at 3am working non stop till night time.

Feels like I'm back at step 1 because I need to learn new techniques again. What was once working for me has dried out (only making about $5k in profit now/Mo) . But the good thing is that I have quite alot of money that I can invest for testing purposes and then finally for marketing.

Thanks for the info that you've supplied in this thread.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by dakar

Hey Joel,

Congratulations on your huge success. I was also riding the same success as you up until last December (a few months ago). I was making about $25k a month on average for the past 2 years. All from 1 site. It wasn't CPA or CPL. It was a combination of PPC, SEO and was making money via Adsense and CPM. And I had a full time job, so the $25k was all money for my savings account.

So now I want to get into the CPA business. I agree with your theory on mentors and having good partners that can give you ideas and possibly even money (if needed). I know some people that are making over $100k a month with PPC and CPA currently. But these guys are hard workers, and are usually up at 3am working non stop till night time.

Feels like I'm back at step 1 because I need to learn new techniques again. What was once working for me has dried out (only making about $5k in profit now/Mo) . But the good thing is that I have quite alot of money that I can invest for testing purposes and then finally for marketing.

Thanks for the info that you've supplied in this thread.

That's great man, 25k is a lot of money to make a month plus a job. Good for you for keeping your job at the same time. Smart.

It happens to everyone in this industry, you hit something thats working and eventually it dies...then the doubt kicks in...did I fluke out? Can I do it again? Just keep working and think about what made your stuff work before, you'll get back there or even bigger in no time.

As you find new ways to make money you become more rounded and confident that no matter what happens you can make money - which is true.

Later man!

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Lyfe Lyte

13 years ago

Yes PPC can have you going from $5k to $400k a month....yes I know someone who sat in front of his computer and didn't stop until he mastered adwords...people give up too easily...he is now doing $400k a month by just using adwords...its all relative...$400k in a month might be a bad month for some people...it's all about what your making now....You may think $10k a month is such a huge amount..but once you start making that every month...it because average for you..then you make a new goal...ask me how I know

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Buy Website Traffic

13 years ago

Congrats on your jump but i don't care who you are, this kind of increase doesn't happen over night. How long did it take to jump?

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smaxor 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Buy Website Traffic

Congrats on your jump but i don't care who you are, this kind of increase doesn't happen over night. How long did it take to jump?

Actutally I've done this many many times. It's all about finding the right formula.

Cheap clicks which can be done by high CTR's and a high interest. If you have high CTR's most of the times your click cost drops because most cpc engines really work on a cpm in the backend.

Then find an offer that appeals to a broad demographic like credit reports, dating, etc. Also, converts pretty easily such as leadgen, trials, etc.

Then it's just a matter of finding the right marketing message to deliver to consumers to get them to click and get them to convert. It's challenging but really not that hard. Are you going to learn it overnight? No. You may get lucky but for the most part it's going to taking some investing of time and money to learn how to be effective.

I was a full time affiliate for 4.5 years before I ever owned a network. The first 12 months in this business I made around $26k working 17 hours a day 7 days a week learning and testing. Month 13 I made $118k, literally the month before I made $1200. It's just a matter of testing and finding the right formula. This about if something can scale big in advance.

Great job Joel! Keep it up, you'll just scale even bigger from here.
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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Buy Website Traffic

Congrats on your jump but i don't care who you are, this kind of increase doesn't happen over night. How long did it take to jump?

I think Smaxor answered the question well. From my experience it doesn't happen over night in that I tried to make money on the internet for a long time...with no luck.

This offer was about break even for me, and I tested 1000's of ads and finally found 2 that just 'clicked' - they were not much different then the other images....

So it seems like overnight, but really I had to learn a lot to get to the point...now over night stuff like this happens all the time to me...just experience...

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SirTestAlot

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

I think Smaxor answered the question well. From my experience it doesn't happen over night in that I tried to make money on the internet for a long time...with no luck.

This offer was about break even for me, and I tested 1000's of ads and finally found 2 that just 'clicked' - they were not much different then the other images....

So it seems like overnight, but really I had to learn a lot to get to the point...now over night stuff like this happens all the time to me...just experience...

So what were the things that you learned that got you from making no money to making money?

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by SirTestAlot

So what were the things that you learned that got you from making no money to making money?

Hmm..Id say that if on your first attempt you are break even or even close...with testing and tracking you can make that campaign at least 100% ROI.

I mean there is a chance you somehow hit the perfect lander with the pefect ad the first time...but probably not.

My first offer was break even, I tweaked and tweaked until 100% ROI - then scaled.

Also, you neve rkno what image will 'click' you get an idea of what has a chance but nobody ever knows.
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AJ Warrior

13 years ago

Great keep up the Work

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wasifahmad

13 years ago

I earned around $7000 in past two months with a newly launched company. Its not a CPA company but it gives you $$$ on referral signups. Their registration is free and on qualified registrant would be considered as one lead. You can signup at becomeverified(dot)com and email them at support(at)becomeverified(dot)com to activate your account as an affiliate. Hope you enjoy it ;-). You can also give the reference of "Carolina White" while writing to them.

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13 years ago

hola. that's really nice.

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achukuttan

13 years ago

@ Joel
I was reading this thread, for long time....Joel I am a noob and doesnt know how to make money from CPA offers....

Could you tell me, what I need to do for making money from CPA...

I am hard working and ready to do anything....

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serekesh

13 years ago

Good, keep it up. Can you brief the reasons for such a vast variation in revenue earning ratio?

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13 years ago

what is your PPC Ad network of Choice?

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Threaver

what is your PPC Ad network of Choice?

Facebook is what I usually use.
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wizbiz 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Threaver

what is your PPC Ad network of Choice?

Better question would be. What are you actually selling?

Since it's on the Facebook, my guess would be generating leads.

I don't he who's gonna buy any real stuff from Facebook.

Even on Ebay to make a profit you need to sell stolen goods

People wanna bet 5$ on the cars and win the action.

If I just know what to sell, then I can spend money on PROMO

whatever it is SOLO or PPC or banners - don't matter..

Otherwise 80% product services not converting or converting

at 0.08/click.. Check your CPA offers you'll see network conversions there

at 0.40/click you going to lose money every time.. Need 5 cent clicks

at most.
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  wizbiz, pretty sure you're joking / messing around.
  
  You clearly have no idea what's going on and your stuff doesn't even make sense...
  
  Those numbers you see in networks are basically useless. You dont know where that traffics coming from, you dont know of people are using landing pages...ou don't know anything.
  
  I've had offers that say the epc is .20 cents and I had an epc of 1.2 thanks to landing pages....
  
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srh41

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
Joel

Glad to hear that. The ppc was probably not from Google as they will take your first born as payment. So having said that, which network? OOOooopppps Facebook... just had to read and quit typing

Also I'm trying to do the same by testing banner ads. I will take a product create 4 banner ads:
2 with different headings same body, and 2 with same heading different body.
I will put $50 into each banner as a test
Hopfully after the test is done I would have spent $200 in clicks. If 2% convert at an average $.10/click that would be 40 sold and at a profit of 25 bucks per it would be $1,000.
I will take my $1,000 and the best heading and put it together with the best body and BINGO.
So using the same 2% convert it would be $5,000
Is this a good plan?

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by srh41

Glad to hear that. The ppc was probably not from Google as they will take your first born as payment. So having said that, which network? OOOooopppps Facebook... just had to read and quit typing

Also I'm trying to do the same by testing banner ads. I will take a product create 4 banner ads:
2 with different headings same body, and 2 with same heading different body.
I will put $50 into each banner as a test
Hopfully after the test is done I would have spent $200 in clicks. If 2% convert at an average $.10/click that would be 40 sold and at a profit of 25 bucks per it would be $1,000.
I will take my $1,000 and the best heading and put it together with the best body and BINGO.
So using the same 2% convert it would be $5,000
Is this a good plan?

Kind of confusing the way its worded...but if it works out like that..sounds like a good plan...you have the right idea with testing and using the best of certain ads and landers to make a profit.

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miljod

13 years ago

Idk how you guys can even comment on this thread when there isnt even one ounce of proof in the first post.

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wizbiz 13 years ago

Originally Posted by miljod

Idk how you guys can even comment on this thread when there isnt even one ounce of proof in the first post.

Cause De facto PPC is dead for years now and even,

if somebody virtually making anything, it's make Us all happy and not

so distress about gaining extra 50 pounds, busting our balls and become alcoholics

while trying to break even.

Keep beating up the dead horse, while fake 7Search clicks and Google AdWords,

(where you paying $5 per click and they still not showing you ads cause , your Link is not good

enough and your landing page have not enough Random BS on it), eating

your account alive.. I wish I could set up PPC Network, nobody buying anything,

but everyone is paying 40 cents per click, better than casino. IMHO.
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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by miljod

Idk how you guys can even comment on this thread when there isnt even one ounce of proof in the first post.

haha I don't know why you commented on it for your first or second post ever...the proof is in my answers and knowing what I'm talking about. And don't really care if you listen or not...doesn't effect me one bit.
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chad3623wiley

13 years ago

Damnnnnnn nice man

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tylerman169

13 years ago

Congrats on your massive revenue increase. I wish my sites would see a jump in traffic like that.

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by tylerman169

Congrats on your massive revenue increase. I wish my sites would see a jump in traffic like that.

Don't wish it, work it haha
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13 years ago

Wow...just wonderful.I am surprised to see this.

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Rupesh Masson

13 years ago

from yesterday i am going thru this post, started reading it late night @ 10 pm till 2am in morning ,
just finished VERY MUCH INSPIRED to take action now
threads like this are real gold mine for action takers,
i had some success with adwords over a yr ago, but they banned my account,
didnt have courage to test big $$ with face book.

...hint hint.. i have a FB account ;-)

sending u a pm joel..plz check

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by anewgo

from yesterday i am going thru this post, started reading it late night @ 10 pm till 2am in morning ,
just finished VERY MUCH INSPIRED to take action now
threads like this are real gold mine for action takers,
i had some success with adwords over a yr ago, but they banned my account,
didnt have courage to test big $$ with face book.

...hint hint.. i have a FB account ;-)

sending u a pm joel..plz check

That's great man, now spend that much time testing stuff. Also, you don't need to hve courage to test big $$ with facebook, test small, if its profitibile set bigger budgets...

When I was starting I'd test about 50 bucks on each add...take the better ones and if they were even close to break even I'd run them to $250.

The based on numbers, I would make my adjustments...

Even though I did risk what I couldn't really afford, and it paid off, I had no family, kids or anyhting so what was the worst that could happen?

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BuddyMac

13 years ago

Hi Joel,

It's rare to come across someone who is willing to consistently share their time on their past successes over a 2 year period. I just finished reading this entire thread and I want to thank you for giving back and know when it comes to karma I hope you will reap much from it.

I have been out of the IM world for several years but did have good success for the short time I was in it.

Three Question:
When it comes to size of banners that you use when doing CPC. Is there a size you prefer, ie. 728x90?

If i'm starting out in CPC. what would you advise for daily limit on spendings?
I have 2k that I can invest in 1st month, but not if I don't net results. lol

Frequency Capping? Any recommendations on ratio for that. 1:12? 1:6?

Thank again for your dedication in helping others. It's inspiring because that's what I would like to do down the road as well. Keep it up!

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by BuddyMac

Hi Joel,

Three Question:
When it comes to size of banners that you use when doing CPC. Is there a size you prefer, ie. 728x90?

If i'm starting out in CPC. what would you advise for daily limit on spendings?
I have 2k that I can invest in 1st month, but not if I don't net results. lol

Frequency Capping? Any recommendations on ratio for that. 1:12? 1:6?

hey Buddy Mac,

to answer your questions...

1) This may sound repative but it's all about testing and seeing CTR. Although I seem so have the best CTR with 300x250 - but that seem sot be what most people bid on, so depending on the system you can sometimes get cheaper CPM or CPC on other less popular sizes.

2) Where are you buying traffic? If its facebook, which most of this thread is about...then I would target very very very specific (keep the demo over 200,000 though) and try to get high ROI with low spend to start. I like ot give ads at least 100k impressions, then go from there.

3) I havent dealth with tis much, just a bit on POF ads and sitescout, again testing is key here and it will vary per ad, traffic source and so on. I prefer keeping the cap lower to keep ctr higher which gets cheaper clicks. I wish FB had frequency cap haha

good luck man and thanks for your comments

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BuddyMac 13 years ago

Thanks so much again for your diligent response. Will keep you posted on my endeavors.Can you PM me. I would like to ask you something about your FB account needs. Thanks
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13 years ago

ppc ftw! great job!

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13 years ago

nice share bro....thanks

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13 years ago

Congrats dude, well done, everyone can reash thier goal in affiliate marketing once you realize its work and then reward, sounds like you spent the time and effort.

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cup243

13 years ago

Very inspiring post!

Joel, have you thought about creating a landing page with your own product? With a bit of creativity it is not a difficult thing to create a product, and ROI can be much higher because the customer pays directly to you so you keep 100%.

Also, could you be interested in partnering with somebody who can create masterpiece landing pages??? I'm very good with psychology and marketing so conversions can be very high,
but I lack experience in bringing good targeted visits at a good CPC, which is where I would need somebody like you.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

I thought about it...but never really put in to action my own product (niches other then 'make money')

I always look at options for partnering, but honestly I'd prefer just to pay somebody for work and not partner. I'm always open though.

Shoot me a PM and maybe show me some of your work and we can go from there...

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Very inspiring post!

Joel, have you thought about creating a landing page with your own product? With a bit of creativity it is not a difficult thing to create a product, and ROI can be much higher because the customer pays directly to you so you keep 100%.

Also, could you be interested in partnering with somebody who can create masterpiece landing pages??? I'm very good with psychology and marketing so conversions can be very high,
but I lack experience in bringing good targeted visits at a good CPC, which is where I would need somebody like you.

Thanks.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

I thought about it...but never really put in to action my own product (niches other then 'make money')

I always look at options for partnering, but honestly I'd prefer just to pay somebody for work and not partner. I'm always open though.

Shoot me a PM and maybe show me some of your work and we can go from there...

I'll send you a PM in a few weeks when I've finished creating the best landing page in the internet! Hope you still around.

With partnering I mean that you could send me good targeted visits at a good CPC (which is what you know how to do very well) and we would share profits. Nothing formal or complicated.

I'm seriously creating a LP with a massive conversion rate, so there should be plenty of profits to share! $$$

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DocReed 13 years ago

joel,

I've just finished reading the entire thread. I thank you for the time and effort you put into this, just to help someone like me.

Several weeks ago I began a (very expensive) CPA/CPC training course with free access to a coach/mentor. I invested in the education because I wanted to be sure that I know what I'm doing before I start the transition from the good earnings that I have, to the potentially great earnings that I thought that I saw in this biz model.

I was getting discouraged because it's been taking me a significant amount of time just to comprehend how the market works. I was questioning whether I should stop working on learning something new and spend the time working with what I have (which is pretty good).

I was close to quitting. Then I found this thread. I'm now convinced by your example that the money, time, and work that I invest will pay off much better than what I'm dong now.

Thank you so much for that!

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  Hey Doc,
  
  Thats great man, if you have success in one area you def have the tool sto be a success in this area...you'll get it going.
  
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Rakgan

13 years ago

Is this true, if it is true you must have heavy traffic websites. Earning through websites is not easy, it's difficult for the beginners and experts too. Publishing websites is easy, but If you want real website you need to create original content and Onpage optimization and Quality Backlinkgs, these all takes lot of time, So If you have high traffic than you can earn easily.

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13 years ago

You should write e-book about it.

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13 years ago

Internet has made everything possible and this PPC campaigns are a great source of money if we are able to find that golden nugget. Congratz.

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13 years ago

Wow, that is impressive. This makes my earnings look a little pathetic and I thought I was doing well.

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arsde

13 years ago

I wonder how you're converting your traffic... I got a lot of clicks but no conversion. I got great and cheap traffic but conversion is my downfall >.<

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by arsde

I wonder how you're converting your traffic... I got a lot of clicks but no conversion. I got great and cheap traffic but conversion is my downfall >.<

I use a landing page that pre sells them on the idea of the product or service. Remember to have a STRONG call to action. You need to tell them exactly what to do.
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andrewjr

13 years ago

This is highly inspirational...thanks for sharing countless tips in this thread.

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13 years ago

Wow, congratulation on your success.

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13 years ago

I hope you could share a bit extra with us.

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Ebolarex

13 years ago

Thanks for keeping the thread current and sharing your bits of knowledge throughout. I am not even one month into my new dedication of this IM world, barely keeping my head afloat from the seas of information i've been trying read and retain. This by far has been one of the more insightful and motivational threads I have come across. We'll meet someday and I'll thank you in person...
Big Cheers to your success!

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ebolarex

Thanks for keeping the thread current and sharing your bits of knowledge throughout. I am not even one month into my new dedication of this IM world, barely keeping my head afloat from the seas of information i've been trying read and retain. This by far has been one of the more insightful and motivational threads I have come across. We'll meet someday and I'll thank you in person...
Big Cheers to your success!

Just stick with it and don't get trapped in a million tools and tricks...you'll get there.

Maybe at adtech or an affiliate summit we'll meet haha

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antman1437

13 years ago

Finished whole thread and took notes in wordpad. Thanks Joel for your insight. There's so much info compacted in here compared to searching the internet and only finding 5% of anything useful here and there. Started about a month ago learning all the different terms/ways to make money/how-tos and slowly formulated a foundation on what I need to do and what direction I want to go into. PPC.

Now am going to apply and get accepted to an affiliate network within a month and work work work.

Wish you continued success

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by antman1437

Finished whole thread and took notes in wordpad. Thanks Joel for your insight. There's so much info compacted in here compared to searching the internet and only finding 5% of anything useful here and there. Started about a month ago learning all the different terms/ways to make money/how-tos and slowly formulated a foundation on what I need to do and what direction I want to go into. PPC.

Now am going to apply and get accepted to an affiliate network within a month and work work work.

Wish you continued success

Nice work man, just remember to keep cost low at the start, no need to spend a whack load on stuff that doesn't work. Just make sure to track and don't make the same mistakes over and over.

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MrLeaVelle

13 years ago

Whats your traffic methods?

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gregowr

13 years ago

Great info in this thread. Thank you everyone for posting!

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hoffman

13 years ago

Congrats! Keep it up. It's a great job. I want to know some tips from you. Kindly help me.

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jugnu

13 years ago

well joelraitt Can you help to newbie like me. I have $200 budget to invest in fb. Can you I help me in this regard.? The newbie(Me) will appreciate it. PM me if you are interested.
I hope you will help me for free because you are making huge.
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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jugnu

well joelraitt Can you help to newbie like me. I have $200 budget to invest in fb. Can you I help me in this regard.? The newbie(Me) will appreciate it. PM me if you are interested.
I hope you will help me for free because you are making huge.
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Hey man, try something very very targeted to insure a super high CTR so your ad prices are as low as possible...maybe niche dating?

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GEORGIADES

13 years ago

Enjoyed reading this thread, especially the random post per page of "how did you do this, please share", facebook? haha

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littlefang

13 years ago

Joel thanks for sharing....

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naweed3

13 years ago

Can I know which ppc network you use? My ads is systematically gets with adwords.

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Eagle07

13 years ago

Originally Posted by naweed3

Can I know which ppc network you use? My ads is systematically gets with adwords.

I think you missed the info in the thread... it is from Facebook Ads.

I agree with Joel and he gives a lot of helpful information when it comes to getting conversions with Facebook ads. Facebook is such a very source of traffic... unfortunately, my Facebook ad account was banned recently due to a reason which was not clear to me. Lucky for those who still have their Facebook ads accounts active! You can rake in a lot of conversions from Facebook... laser targeted and fast traffic! Just set your site well and you will be fine.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Why not start a new Facebook account if you were making money before?

Originally Posted by Eagle07

I think you missed the info in the thread... it is from Facebook Ads.

I agree with Joel and he gives a lot of helpful information when it comes to getting conversions with Facebook ads. Facebook is such a very source of traffic... unfortunately, my Facebook ad account was banned recently due to a reason which was not clear to me. Lucky for those who still have their Facebook ads accounts active! You can rake in a lot of conversions from Facebook... laser targeted and fast traffic! Just set your site well and you will be fine.

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klikeras7

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Why not start a new Facebook account if you were making money before?

As far as I know it's really hard to open an ads account on the same name if your previous account was banned.
I've heard Facebook is really rigorous about it, and you would have to go around the rules.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by klikeras7

As far as I know it's really hard to open an ads account on the same name if your previous account was banned.
I've heard Facebook is really rigorous about it, and you would have to go around the rules.

Name usually doesn't matter...there are a lot of people with the same names out there...

There are only a few things they do track...just need to test and find out

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by klikeras7

As far as I know it's really hard to open an ads account on the same name if your previous account was banned.
I've heard Facebook is really rigorous about it, and you would have to go around the rules.

Only one way to find out...and there is always a way my friend...going around the rules is sometimes where you have to go...sometimes.

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nixux

12 years ago

Come on guys let this thread die already...

Joel has done his research and knows how to talk the talk but this is a bunch of BS.

If Joel was making 10k+ per month almost three years ago he should be hundreds of thousands in profit by now...
Please Joel show us all how you've spent some of those profits... A pic of your new car? new house? maybe a paypal or bank acct screencap for some verification?

... are you still living in your parents house?

Some proof please...

... don't feed the trolls ...

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ResultsDriven

12 years ago

Originally Posted by nixux

Come on guys let this thread die already...

Joel has done his research and knows how to talk the talk but this is a bunch of BS.

If Joel was making 10k+ per month almost three years ago he should be hundreds of thousands in profit by now...
Please Joel show us all how you've spent some of those profits... A pic of your new car? new house? maybe a paypal or bank acct screencap for some verification?

... are you still living in your parents house?

Some proof please...

... don't feed the trolls ...

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First post is a troll post.

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joelraitt

12 years ago

Originally Posted by nixux

Come on guys let this thread die already...

Joel has done his research and knows how to talk the talk but this is a bunch of BS.

If Joel was making 10k+ per month almost three years ago he should be hundreds of thousands in profit by now...
Please Joel show us all how you've spent some of those profits... A pic of your new car? new house? maybe a paypal or bank acct screencap for some verification?

... are you still living in your parents house?

Some proof please...

... don't feed the trolls ...

Thanks for the pointless input, I don't need to prove anything to you or anyone...if you find the information useful and use it to make some money then sweet.

And for your information I do make around the same as back then, bit more actually, but I work a lot less and spend my time doing other things.

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Aditeo

13 years ago

Nice share and a good motivation thing to help us not giving up . Work hard and you'll get there 1:d

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Alright so I still have a few post to get back to but I wanted to let you guys know about joelraitt.com

I thought an email list would be a good way to keep you guys informed. I threw that lander together just now, it's not much but it doesn't really matter...

I'll only email once in a while and I wont try to sell you some product I have or some crap from someone else...just solid info from me...

enjoy... and again its joelraitt.com

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yaji 13 years ago

great thread. thanks for all the info.
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timpears

13 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
Joel

So where is the WSO? And why did we revive this ancient thread?

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by timpears

So where is the WSO? And why did we revive this ancient thread?

I revived it a long time ago and try to do a few posts week to try and help out or answer peoples questions.

It seems like people enjoy it and do learn so I figured I'd keep going.

Zero plans for a WSO - more money to be made in other places.
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outwest

13 years ago

I am curious have you maintained this level of volume until now?

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by outwest

I am curious have you maintained this level of volume until now?

Some months more, some months less!
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JD Ways

13 years ago

Great news man! Keep it up!! I know your split testing the crap out of the campaigns!!

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pramodchauhan1980

13 years ago

Hey ...congrats & good going..if its true what you claim, I think you have done wonders for yourself ..I can understand that why would someone share their money making secret openly to everyone but you could certainly lay down the framework so that it could help other fellow marketers..otherwise just posting a post like this doesn;t make sense ...

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by pramodchauhan1980

Hey ...congrats & good going..if its true what you claim, I think you have done wonders for yourself ..I can understand that why would someone share their money making secret openly to everyone but you could certainly lay down the framework so that it could help other fellow marketers..otherwise just posting a post like this doesn;t make sense ...

Not sure what you mean man...there are some pretty good points in there...

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ThisTimeNextYear

13 years ago

It's not that hard. If you use a tool like Adbeat / Spyfu / Mixrank you can see what advertisers are doing big volume, what sort of ads they are running, how long they have been running, where they are running them and when they are running them.

It is a good assumption to make that if an ad is running for a while it must be profitable (obviously not branding ads). Use it as inspiration for your own campaigns (copy successful people) and you greatly improve your chances of success.

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Jaspry

13 years ago

Hey Joel, sent you a PM with a CPA calculating tool I'm building ... check it out!
Anyways, I've been reading this entire thread for a couple hours, so I need a break haha!

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Jaspry

Hey Joel, sent you a PM with a CPA calculating tool I'm building ... check it out!
Anyways, I've been reading this entire thread for a couple hours, so I need a break haha!

Alright thanks man, I'll check it out...

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Luke Frisby

13 years ago

Is this a "stable income" method, or one time jump you've made so far?

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vok

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Luke Frisby

Is this a "stable income" method, or one time jump you've made so far?

CPA isn't stable income, ads could die tomorrow, offers could get pulled/paused at any point. Not to mention the amount of money you lose in testing to find a new handful of profitable campaigns, until they start to burn out.

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ThisTimeNextYear

13 years ago

Originally Posted by vok

CPA isn't stable income, ads could die tomorrow, offers could get pulled/paused at any point. Not to mention the amount of money you lose in testing to find a new handful of profitable campaigns, until they start to burn out.

That's the truth - the only way to smooth the peaks and troughs is to capture the leads yourself so you can market to them as well as running campaigns.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by vok

CPA isn't stable income, ads could die tomorrow, offers could get pulled/paused at any point. Not to mention the amount of money you lose in testing to find a new handful of profitable campaigns, until they start to burn out.

It's true, sometimes it is unstable. I always wish I would have captured leads or emails or something while marketing my campaigns. But at the same time if you keep working and grinding it out, the income comes in.

Does it need to be stable if you can make 3k a day for a month? Take the rest of the year off haha

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brute77

13 years ago

PPC is one of the best ways to make money but i don't recommend it to newbies with no risk capital.. coz the initial stage you're only going to burn money... and if you're too careful and only targeting buyer keywords.. you'll get impatient with rate of impressions/clicks

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by brute77

PPC is one of the best ways to make money but i don't recommend it to newbies with no risk capital.. coz the initial stage you're only going to burn money... and if you're too careful and only targeting buyer keywords.. you'll get impatient with rate of impressions/clicks

It's true, start with SEO or provide and SEO service or some sort of service to the IM community.

It's a lot of work and gives you seed money.

One of my best friends started out providing an SEO service (thats how I met him) but now he does paid ads and has done over 1 million in revenues in the last 12 months!

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Vanure

13 years ago

joelraitt,
Congrats! I am just in too much frustration right now because I have read everything about this kind of stuff (3 years in affiliate marketing) but still have not made any money because I never took a action because I have no money to invest as I am financially weak. I can not afford a wordpress blog or can buy a domain name for use with blogger's free blog service and that is why I am at zero. Please suggest me something to do in a way so I can grow a little bit and then can own a website. I am only son of my parents and we have to pay around 5500$ loan. I do not lose my hope but now tension is blowing around the head day and night. I have read everywhere that with affiliate marketing you can choose the life you want to live. I am still struggling. Please do something for me guys. I hope someone will come around to help me. Thanks...

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Streamline

13 years ago

Vanure, take action and your confidence will start to grow! If you focus on what's not working (all of your challenges, etc.) those will grow instead. I commend you for staying in the game, somewhat, for 3 years with $0 in results... but it's time to move your behind and CHANGE what you're doing.

Get a side job... deliver newspapers, wash windows, pick up dog crap -- ANYTHING you can to earn some spending money. If you can't find the motivation after 3 years to make $100 to get started, you're never going to make it in business!

(from the bottom of my heart I want the best for you & others who are struggling.. if my words seem harsh, GOOD! but don't ignore them!)

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joelraitt,
Congrats! I am just in too much frustration right now because I have read everything about this kind of stuff (3 years in affiliate marketing) but still have not made any money because I never took a action because I have no money to invest as I am financially weak. I can not afford a wordpress blog or can buy a domain name for use with blogger's free blog service and that is why I am at zero. Please suggest me something to do in a way so I can grow a little bit and then can own a website. I am only son of my parents and we have to pay around 5500$ loan. I do not lose my hope but now tension is blowing around the head day and night. I have read everywhere that with affiliate marketing you can choose the life you want to live. I am still struggling. Please do something for me guys. I hope someone will come around to help me. Thanks...

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Francisco Cooper

Banned 13 years ago

I make an easy 20k amonth. Making money is easy when you know how to make it work.

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Kitwana Ab

13 years ago

WOW congratulations! I hope I can make so much money in a short time!

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joelraitt 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kitwana Ab

WOW congratulations! I hope I can make so much money in a short time!

It may seem like a short time but I spent a LOT of time working, testing and trying things before I ever came close to this...

It's like the old saying...'An overnight success takes 5-10 years' thanksfully on the Internet it can be less then that.
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JeremTheMarketer

13 years ago

Well done if true. I am skeptical about that results.

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bosschat

13 years ago

Awesome joelraitt. Thanks for so much pure gold info. I needed one last piece to fall into place and this is it. Now I can..... go do the voodoo that you do so well! Cheers mate, you're a diamond.

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SOLOWPOET

13 years ago

Congrats my Friend, as stated in a lot of earlier post Running a Successful PPC campaign takes quite a bit of research, testing and of course $$$ to get these BIG BOY results.
I've seen many a spirits and Bank accounts Broken looking for those Quick Big Bucks without putting in the required time and work to make success even a possibility.

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by SOLOWPOET

Congrats my Friend, as stated in a lot of earlier post Running a Successful PPC campaign takes quite a bit of research, testing and of course $$$ to get these BIG BOY results.
I've seen many a spirits and Bank accounts Broken looking for those Quick Big Bucks without putting in the required time and work to make success even a possibility.

Yes, you definitely don't want to risk that much, start small with testing and grow from there (called scaling)!

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riyadsouza

13 years ago

That's actually very impressive but we need to find the most profitable and effective techniques for making that much money!!

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tristahimmelman

13 years ago

Thanks a ton Joel, this has been after thread! I'm only half way through and there is more information here than I have found in many google's.

I also new to thank you, just before I found this thread, I had my third disapproval in a row from Facebook and I was getting a little frustrated. I'm going to step back and take a look at my niche and see what I'm really doing.

So thank you for the inspiration and information! It's been a pleasure reading all the comments, everyone offers wonderful insight and education.

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Thank you again!

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tristahimmelman

Thanks a ton Joel, this has been after thread! I'm only half way through and there is more information here than I have found in many google's.

I also new to thank you, just before I found this thread, I had my third disapproval in a row from Facebook and I was getting a little frustrated. I'm going to step back and take a look at my niche and see what I'm really doing.

So thank you for the inspiration and information! It's been a pleasure reading all the comments, everyone offers wonderful insight and education.

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Thank you again!

Nice man, don't give up. ANd read the FB terms and conditions very closely. Follow as much as you can, or all of them to increase your chances of getting stuff approved!

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monicitravi 11 years ago

Can you please tell us which PPC network did you use? (Only if you don't mind!)
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bz1741

13 years ago

Hey Joel, thanks a lot for your 3 years journey threads. Although I have been joining the forum for sometime, but never posting anything. I dedicate my 1st post in Warrior Forum to you. This thread has inspired me that everyone can create a new source of income from affiliate marketing, and I have started to take action. Need some advise and hope you can clear my doubts.

I have chosen to use direct link to the offer page. The reason is to limit the variables for split testing. My ads have been running for few days, I manage to get some clicks (total ~140 clicks) for my campaigns, but no luck with any conversion.

1. Is my understanding correct, direct link (w/ iFrame) is more suitable for newbies?

2. What is the initial bid you set for all your ads? How do you control or how you gradually lowering down the bid? I notice facebook only expose our ads when we set it high.

3. What is the lowest bid you manage to set that still can bring in good traffic?

4. Should we start with a high value offer or low value offer for easier success to get 1st conversion? This is very important for our motivation especially newbies.

5. Can you share with us your split test techniques (on facebook ads only)?

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by bz1741

Hey Joel, thanks a lot for your 3 years journey threads. Although I have been joining the forum for sometime, but never posting anything. I dedicate my 1st post in Warrior Forum to you. This thread has inspired me that everyone can create a new source of income from affiliate marketing, and I have started to take action. Need some advise and hope you can clear my doubts.

I have chosen to use direct link to the offer page. The reason is to limit the variables for split testing. My ads have been running for few days, I manage to get some clicks (total ~140 clicks) for my campaigns, but no luck with any conversion.

1. Is my understanding correct, direct link (w/ iFrame) is more suitable for newbies?

2. What is the initial bid you set for all your ads? How do you control or how you gradually lowering down the bid? I notice facebook only expose our ads when we set it high.

3. What is the lowest bid you manage to set that still can bring in good traffic?

4. Should we start with a high value offer or low value offer for easier success to get 1st conversion? This is very important for our motivation especially newbies.

5. Can you share with us your split test techniques (on facebook ads only)?

BZ

1) I think you should get used to making LP's and testing the, , but direct linking does work, t will give you a good idea of what images and ad copy gets a good CTR.

2) I bid at the top when first testing to get fast data, then if the CTR looks god and I have some sales I calculate what my new CPC will be and see if its profitable...I usually run the test to get more data if it's close.

3) I find when you have over 1,000,000 imp or more you can actually bid lower then suggested and still get traffic. Not as much of course. This takes testing, and tweaking of bids to find the best place to get the traffic you wantat the highest ROI.

4) Hmmm...I've never had luck with payouts less then 3-4 bucks on FB...but it's true maybe it will get you that first sale or 2.

5) I use Prosper202 - test ad copy headlines and body test, along with images and headline on the lander usually first. I find testing th emajor things is worth it, but trying to test super mall changes (although they can make a big difference) isn't worth it. It's easier to get a new campgian going with good ROI and sclae, rather then get an extra .3% Conversion rate.

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marketwarrior06

Banned 13 years ago

We all know that its very possible, but can you share some of your tricks by which we can also start this type of income

Actually can you suggest something that is must for the beginners?

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OnlineMkter

13 years ago

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ROI is much better now then before (advertising totally different things though). Low end of 80% ROI up to 350% ROI normally is the goal. I have tried a few trafficc sources but always end back at FB since it has SO MUCH traffic and it's what I know.
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OnlineMkter

13 years ago

Thanks for the response. Another question - have you tried other offers than CPA, especially affiliate sites selling physical products from Amazon? I don't know whether FB allows their PPC for such affiliate sites btw (as google)!

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joelraitt

13 years ago

Originally Posted by OnlineMkter

Thanks for the response. Another question - have you tried other offers than CPA, especially affiliate sites selling physical products from Amazon? I don't know whether FB allows their PPC for such affiliate sites btw (as google)!

Personally never tried FB with stuff like that, I have a feeling amazon payouts are to small for the price of FB traffic. FB users aren;t always in the 'buying' mode like google.

Sell a user a magazine or some sort of electronic out of the blue on FB is tough I would imagine...but if they type in 'buy X product' the are much more likelly to convert.

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CaptainNewgate

13 years ago

Congrats ..

Care sharing a few tips??

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12 years ago

revenue and profit?

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nixux

12 years ago

yes, first post, long time lurker.
I felt I had to call this guy out. Many members in this sub-forum see him to be a god of sorts while he has been toying with everyone all along. Do your research...

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jsadimat 12 years ago

I have spent most time of my day on this thread and I must admit that I have learnt some stuff on PPC which I didn't know about. Cheers to all who contributed.
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12 years ago

Originally Posted by nixux

yes, first post, long time lurker.
I felt I had to call this guy out. Many members in this sub-forum see him to be a god of sorts while he has been toying with everyone all along. Do your research...

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12 years ago

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12 years ago

Amazing stuff that u got so far...but whats the ROI...thats the most important factor otherwise it really doesn't make sense ....

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joelraitt 12 years ago

Originally Posted by linksbull

Amazing stuff that u got so far...but whats the ROI...thats the most important factor otherwise it really doesn't make sense ....

I disagree man, ROI is NOT as important as profit.

For that offer I was running low ROI but high profit. I'd rather that then high ROI and low profit...
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12 years ago

the best thread that i read

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12 years ago

whao that is a lot could you please be more detailed as to how you achieved this?

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t0113k

12 years ago

hey JoelRaitt,
I can´t believe in this... all your links on your twitter account are dead... your website didn´t work...

I know that u can make big money with a website, but i can´t believe that u make money without them... sorry... do u can show a proof? (but not reworked with photoshop please)...

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by t0113k

hey JoelRaitt,
I can´t believe in this... all your links on your twitter account are dead... your website didn´t work...

I know that u can make big money with a website, but i can´t believe that u make money without them... sorry... do u can show a proof? (but not reworked with photoshop please)...

Yah, shut that twitter down, to much spam on it... I took down joelraitt.com for now, turning it into a blog for when I go traveling again...didn't want to keep sending out emails - to busy with other things!

And no I'm not sending proof...

If I do or don't make money it doesn't matter, if I have one peice of advice it's go to an affiliate summit and see and talk with people making money...just so you know it's possible...

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watsonovedades

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Yah, shut that twitter down, to much spam on it... I took down joelraitt.com for now, turning it into a blog for when I go traveling again...didn't want to keep sending out emails - to busy with other things!

And no I'm not sending proof...

If I do or don't make money it doesn't matter, if I have one peice of advice it's go to an affiliate summit and see and talk with people making money...just so you know it's possible...

Are you using 2d tier PPC networks to acomplish this?
do you mind sharing how many campaigns are you working on and do you deal with optimization?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by watsonovedades

Are you using 2d tier PPC networks to acomplish this?
do you mind sharing how many campaigns are you working on and do you deal with optimization?

Thanks in advanced

Nope, facebook most of the time... nothing 2nd tear.

Right now I'm running 3-4 aff campaigns and just started testing traffic to my own offer.

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12 years ago

Can you please tell us which PPC network did you use? (Only if you don't mind!)

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12 years ago

This is a good thread and it can happen with a bit of hard work and persistence. Of course I have availed of William's coaching and got a head start due to which I have done well with PPC. Keep trying and you shall succeed.

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WinsonYeung

12 years ago

Hi Joel,

Do you use a landing page to capture the facebook traffic? If yes, do you use Single or Double opt-in in this case?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by WinsonYeung

Hi Joel,

Do you use a landing page to capture the facebook traffic? If yes, do you use Single or Double opt-in in this case?

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Thats one thing I regret, I wish I was collecting email data for myself at least...wold have a great list of hundreds og thousands of people...

I was using a landing page but just had a button, no opt in...

That list would have been pure gold if i was smart enoug back thn to do it...

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Thats one thing I regret, I wish I was collecting email data for myself at least...wold have a great list of hundreds og thousands of people...

I was using a landing page but just had a button, no opt in...

That list would have been pure gold if i was smart enoug back thn to do it...

So did you fix it and add in the lead form?

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joelraitt 12 years ago

Originally Posted by WinsonYeung

So did you fix it and add in the lead form?

Nope, i t was making to much money at that point and then the offer went down...probably should have.
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12 years ago

Wow... this is huge success

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12 years ago

good workkkk

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12 years ago

Through PPC?

Harldy true! I guess hard to believe!

What ppc network do you use!?

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Originally Posted by bobert8590

Through PPC?

Harldy true! I guess hard to believe!

What ppc network do you use!?

-Bobert8590

Great thread and congrats on the success Joel.

Bobert8590, You've got to be kidding right? I've done 5 figure days (Profit) with PPC. I know several others who have as well. PPC is what you use if you want to make real money. I mean you can make money with other means. I have. But, PPC and Media Buys are the real cash cow. It's all about the testing. You get a solid ad and you can run almost anywhere.
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  Originally Posted by socialbacklink
  
  Great thread and congrats on the success Joel.
  It's all about the testing. You get a solid ad and you can run almost anywhere.
  
  It's true, ive taken dating ads that converted in the USA well and ran the same ad in Canada, NZ, AU, UK - and yup they all worked...some better then the USA some worst...
  
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12 years ago

how much did u spend?

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12 years ago

Congrats keep up the hard work.

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todawg_not

12 years ago

If you asked anyone on this thread would you like to make $13K everyone would say "of course".

Who gives a flying bat shit if you had to spend $80,000 to make $13K profit ($13,000 in the positive)

I've had several offline businesses, and know friends who run offline businesses today and they would kill for 20% profit.

Big Service stations here where I live in Australia only make 1%-2% profit on their fuel.

You guys are complaining about 20% and having to spend 80K to get it.... PAR-LEESE

Is this forum full of noobs that don't know shit about running a business in the real world.

I'll spend $80K to make $13K profit till the cows come home...

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nicolasp

12 years ago

a) did you get paid ?
b) can we pm tips about LP ?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by nicolasp

a) did you get paid ?
b) can we pm tips about LP ?

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yes i got paid, i was getting paid every 3 days at one point because I didnt have the money to be spending that much everyday and needed the network (neverblue.com) to pay me early or risk stopping my traffic.

tips for LP's - all i did for this one was make a copy of the offer lander, tweak it with my own pre-sale text and left he call-to-action in the same place

this way the user thought they wre on the same site the entire time, and did not have to search for the buttons to press on the offer - it was all consistant.

this is really effective and also easier....since you dont need to design a page, just have the offer page ripped and change the text to qualify your visitors...

this strategy works well for lead generation stuff...

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wizbiz

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

since you dont need to design a page, just have the offer page ripped and change the text to qualify your visitors...
this strategy works well for lead generation stuff...

What is the purpose of the landing page then? Just additional stop to lose

some traffic on the way as people typically lazy and not 100%

of them will continue to the

final destination. Is the landing page purpose only to get your ad accepted

by the Facebook Approval team?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by wizbiz

What is the purpose of the landing page then? Just additional stop to lose

some traffic on the way as people typically lazy and not 100%

of them will continue to the

final destination. Is the landing page purpose only to get your ad accepted

by the Facebook Approval team?

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good question wiz biz, first off if a person is to lay (you're right they are lay) to git a button that says 'Click to Register' do you think the would have actually filled out a form if it was on the first page?

It qualifies the user, gets them interested and pre sells them on the idea...

If you land on a page and see 10 forms to fill out...you instantly think...wtf this it stupid and will take forever....but if you read a few strong bullet points, get a little excited and mkae that first click the user is engaged and more liking to read the advertisers page and fill out the form...

It's kinda of like asking for a little first, then asking for just a little more after....

Make sense? I mean it doesn't work for everything this is just what ive found for myself!

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12 years ago

Good job, keep at it! Your story is what many look to for inspiration, and many will find positive reinforcement, and keep on, keeping on....

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mudfishsoftware

12 years ago

That might not be an affiliate link tho, it might be the advertiser directly putting up there own stuff.

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12 years ago

How much are you making now (profit) if you don't mind me asking?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
Joel

Congratulations and keep going the good work, any tips about your success?

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newbie_warrior

12 years ago

Do you also split test even the interest? Or do you put a bunch (more than 10) of specific interests that is related to the offer? Or do you just use 1 very generic interest and just split test more on the other demo component like age, country, sex etc..???

Also what is a good FB CTR to start making an acceptable of ROI (in your case 20%-30%)? 0.2%?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by newbie_warrior

Do you also split test even the interest? Or do you put a bunch (more than 10) of specific interests that is related to the offer? Or do you just use 1 very generic interest and just split test more on the other demo component like age, country, sex etc..???

Also what is a good FB CTR to start making an acceptable of ROI (in your case 20%-30%)? 0.2%?

I try to keep my targeting wider and go more for age, gender, sex location - sometimes for specific offers related to a large interest (ex. simpsons, family guy, hunger games) or something like that it can reall help the CTR of your ads.

for the second part - the roi depends on what you're looking for - i aim for 100% roi now as average. but i mostly look at profit, not ROI.

as for ctr - i remember those ads i was reffering to in the headline of this thread were only .08 ish - and people were saying you needed a .2 to make it work back then - i guess ctr only really matters depending on convertions - if you need cheaper traffic you need a better CTR

I am for a .15 and above though... otherwise its pretty dang tough

good questions and good luck

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kenni

12 years ago

You should write a case study detailing the steps you took...you can use a different offer to show what you did...and sell it as a WSO

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joelraitt 12 years ago

Originally Posted by kenni

You should write a case study detailing the steps you took...you can use a different offer to show what you did...and sell it as a WSO

haha honestly, most of the stuff id put in a WSO is on this thread...never had the deisre to do a WSO and alsways said that I never would.

to busy with other things and one thing iveleanrt is focus on 1 or 2 things and spend you energy on them

not interested in making a few bucks from a WSO right now
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12 years ago

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12 years ago

just can't believe this 3 year old isn't dead till now
nice earnings OP

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junkdna

12 years ago

What kind of lending pages are allowed now on FB?

The way I understand, practically nothing is allowed. Squeeze pages, newspaper style, flogs it is all out. I am at loss understanding what kind of page is actually allowed?

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by junkdna

What kind of lending pages are allowed now on FB?

The way I understand, practically nothing is allowed. Squeeze pages, newspaper style, flogs it is all out. I am at loss understanding what kind of page is actually allowed?

It can be hard to know exactly, just read through the T/C and try things...you might be surprised at what gets through! Never hurts to test...

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slowpoison

12 years ago

Hey joel, i have more than 18 precise interests for 1 ad, what is better in your opinion..

- While split testing 6 images, i should place 6 ads with all the 18 precise interests in 1 campaign.
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- While split testing 6 images, i should place 6 ads with all the 18 precise interests in 6 campaigns.

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joelraitt

12 years ago

I like doing it in separate campaigns, gives you more control over ad spend per ad on daily caps - and also gives each ad a solid # of impressions to test.

sometimes with lots of ads in 1 campaign, 1 or 2 ads will have a better CTR at the start that is NOT statistically relevant...and it will take off leaving the other ads untested....what if you miss a winner like this?

good question.

Originally Posted by slowpoison

Hey joel, i have more than 18 precise interests for 1 ad, what is better in your opinion..

- While split testing 6 images, i should place 6 ads with all the 18 precise interests in 1 campaign.
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- While split testing 6 images, i should place 6 ads with all the 18 precise interests in 6 campaigns.

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Jerome Y

12 years ago

Very informative joelraitt ! if someone just studies everything in this thread and takes ACTION and sticks to it, success is inevitable. Keep it up, looking forward to seeing more success

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danhenrique

12 years ago

Great results, Joelraitt, congratulations. I'm still struggling to make some money with PPC/PPV. Can anybody help me? I'm still beginning, but that doesn't mean I don't know anything, but still I need help.

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12 years ago

Hey joelraitt, are you building small sites and promoting them through PPC as well?

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joelraitt 12 years ago

Originally Posted by dk40k

Hey joelraitt, are you building small sites and promoting them through PPC as well?

Not really small sites but landing pages....and mostly Facebook, some media buys!
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junkdna

12 years ago

would it be possible to show one example of landing page. It might be one old campaign that you are not doing any more or page belonging to somebody else but similar to yours.

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eaglefliesover

12 years ago

O k ! i haven't made a dime yet, but i've a plan, and soon I hope to be back here with my success story !! I appreciate the carrot you have created, I am chasing it like a big dog after the rabbit LOL

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Banned 12 years ago

That's impressive!It would be nice if you could share a bit in detail.

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12 years ago

Making money online is just like learning How to drive a car.

After You manage the basics you "Start to Roll" but after a while you get You freak on & start racing that Highway like a MF !!

Just remember this...Some have the talent to be a good driver and some folks don't !

So be careful and don't crash somewhere...

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12 years ago

Wow, thats great to know! Keep up the good work!

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12 years ago

wow! keep up the good work!

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daniell686

12 years ago

You are a genius!!!

Teach me!!!! I promise, if I make 45k or something like that in a month, I will pay you the 50% of my first month.

Surelly you will make much more money soon. Again, you are a genious and one inspiration! (for newbies like me), honestly I wish you the best, keep that machine working

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12 years ago

Nice thread with good information.
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12 years ago

Wow great thread i agree with the need for coaches i have had 4 all members of this forum and the cost $50 a month each on average.

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joelraitt 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Nick Walsh

Wow great thread i agree with the need for coaches i have had 4 all members of this forum and the cost $50 a month each on average.

that didn't make sense...can you explain what you are talking about?
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12 years ago

That's excellent. You may need to work on improving the net margins a bit more. But its still superb.

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12 years ago

Hey Guys (and Girls)

The time has come...and I guarantee it not what you're thinking (not a WSO)

I'm helping 5 people get started online...for free - no fee's, no % of income, nothing. Wondering the catch?

I decided to give back...so far 1 of the spots is taken by a close friend. I'm guessing 2 more will be taken by my friends as well...that leaves 2 spots for you guys...

I'll be choosing people I like, who I think can do it and willing to work at it...

Here is the offer:
- you get 2 x 30 minute sessions a week (strictly enforced)
- you show you're lazy, not focused or not into it - I stop helping
- you must have a good reason for wanting to succeed online
- you donate 10% of w/e you make to a charity near you
- im not going to give you anything...you have to work and think for yourself (ill guide you)
- one day buy me a beer and give me a high five

That's all - if you're interested in the spots remaining let me know (2 or 3)...I'm waiting to hear back from a few more friends...

Good luck!

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Guys (and Girls)

The time has come...and I guarantee it not what you're thinking (not a WSO)

I'm helping 5 people get started online...for free - no fee's, no % of income, nothing. Wondering the catch?

I decided to give back...so far 1 of the spots is taken by a close friend. I'm guessing 2 more will be taken by my friends as well...that leaves 2 spots for you guys...

I'll be choosing people I like, who I think can do it and willing to work at it...

Here is the offer:
- you get 2 x 30 minute sessions a week (strictly enforced)
- you show you're lazy, not focused or not into it - I stop helping
- you must have a good reason for wanting to succeed online
- you donate 10% of w/e you make to a charity near you
- im not going to give you anything...you have to work and think for yourself (ill guide you)
- one day buy me a beer and give me a high five

That's all - if you're interested in the spots remaining let me know (2 or 3)...I'm waiting to hear back from a few more friends...

Good luck!

Hey joel been a silent reader of this thread for quite awhile.. I'm interested to be a student of yours.. hw do i sign up?

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12 years ago

I shot you a Pm

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Guys (and Girls)

The time has come...and I guarantee it not what you're thinking (not a WSO)

I'm helping 5 people get started online...for free - no fee's, no % of income, nothing. Wondering the catch?

I decided to give back...so far 1 of the spots is taken by a close friend. I'm guessing 2 more will be taken by my friends as well...that leaves 2 spots for you guys...

I'll be choosing people I like, who I think can do it and willing to work at it...

Here is the offer:
- you get 2 x 30 minute sessions a week (strictly enforced)
- you show you're lazy, not focused or not into it - I stop helping
- you must have a good reason for wanting to succeed online
- you donate 10% of w/e you make to a charity near you
- im not going to give you anything...you have to work and think for yourself (ill guide you)
- one day buy me a beer and give me a high five

That's all - if you're interested in the spots remaining let me know (2 or 3)...I'm waiting to hear back from a few more friends...

Good luck!

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manage it one day 12 years ago

count me in joel if the offer is still open i will donate 50% to charity if i can do this, i really want to learn why i spend hundreds on ppc for few conversions
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- jbsolar 12 years ago
  
  Sign me up Joel, I just joined those crazy guys down in Costa Rica, need to get my Affiliate on!
  
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  Hey Joel, very interested, let me know what info you need to make your decision.
  
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  Basfius 12 years ago
  
  Great thread, I've learned a lot. I have been focusing on SEO for the past few weeks and I know there's potential in combining organic and paid traffic, I'm just trying to learn how to exactly balance the two. Mainly list building/Social media and PPC. :p
  
  Some really interesting information about FB ads also, I've heard a lot of good things about it, just haven't had the chance to get into it in-depth yet.
  
  If you could, please let me know if you saw my PM Joel.
  
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cobwab

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Guys (and Girls)

The time has come...and I guarantee it not what you're thinking (not a WSO)

I'm helping 5 people get started online...for free - no fee's, no % of income, nothing. Wondering the catch?

I decided to give back...so far 1 of the spots is taken by a close friend. I'm guessing 2 more will be taken by my friends as well...that leaves 2 spots for you guys...

I'll be choosing people I like, who I think can do it and willing to work at it...

Here is the offer:
- you get 2 x 30 minute sessions a week (strictly enforced)
- you show you're lazy, not focused or not into it - I stop helping
- you must have a good reason for wanting to succeed online
- you donate 10% of w/e you make to a charity near you
- im not going to give you anything...you have to work and think for yourself (ill guide you)
- one day buy me a beer and give me a high five

That's all - if you're interested in the spots remaining let me know (2 or 3)...I'm waiting to hear back from a few more friends...

Good luck!

Hi,
It seems as if I am always late to the party, but I just finished reading this thread and really need some coaching.

My reason for coaching.

Back in 2002, my account at Merrill,Lunch was worth 1 million bucks and my home in Newton, Ma was valued at over $600K. I sailed a 36 foot catamaran up and down Buzzards Bay, leaving all monohulls who chose to challenge me in a cloud of sea foam.

In 2003, the tech bubble burst, sending the Dow into a death spiral that left me with $143K out of a million. I had refinanced our home to build a summer home on Swifts Beach in Wareham, Ma. My mother had come to the Swifts Beach as a child; taught me how to swim there and I just wanted to continue the tradition. And Buzzards Bay has the best wind on the east coast for sailing; a steady forceful breeze from the Southwest. With a couple of tacks I could sail through Quick's Hole and arrive at the Vineyard in about 1/2 hour.

We sold our home in Newton for over $600K and moved into the beach house. I tried suing ML, but all the good lawyers claimed I didn't have a case because I had ticked off that I would accept risk to achieve growth on my app to ML. So it was all my fault, LOL.

My poor wife, she kept repeating, "I lost my beautiful home", and that just drives me crazy and not a day does by when I do not hear that phrase rattling around in my head.

My goal is to make enough money to buy another home in the Newton area. My kids live in that area, but Wareham is 54 miles away and we would like to see more of them.

I have dabbled in IM for 5 years. I belong to 7 CPA networks, MaxBounty, CPALead, LeadBolt, etc. I had a little success running CPA ads on Craigslist, but haven't tried CPC on FB or POF.

I make my own LPs, am an expert at Wordpress, know HTML pretty good, and am dangerous with PHP, can read Javascript, FTP, etc. I am a software engineer, retired.

Take Care,

Walter A Brown, aka cobwab on WF

P.S. Please choose me to receive this free training!

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milanopcclub

12 years ago

hi my name is Zac and im from morocco
this can change my life for ever
i have no job right now and i want to be your student
so joel please change my life

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12 years ago

just pm you.

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joelraitt

12 years ago

Update: I have 3 friends who took up the offer, it is time consuming for me but I'm going to choose 1 random person. I have it down to a couple just thinking still.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Update: I have 3 friends who took up the offer, it is time consuming for me but I'm going to choose 1 random person. I have it down to a couple just thinking still.

Hi Joel, been reading this thread for hours.. till I saw this! I've been an affiliate marketer for quite some time but I haven't tried CPA before. I'm really interested if you still have not chosen that last person.

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TFTango85

12 years ago

If this opportunity is still available, I'd love to throw my hat into the ring. I've been looking online for a mentor and someone to guide me along in the right direction. I think I would be a good fit to work with you because I am a hard worker and have the dedication to continue to work hard, regardless of what the daily results look like. I also have web design skills and have my own VSP hosting provider with space and the funding to buy domains as needed. I also have funding to compete and follow your Ppc advice going forward in the training. Please feel free to message me if you have any questions. Congrats to whomever gets the opportunity!

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AGP

12 years ago

Have sent you a pm would be intereted if the opportunity is still available..

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Majin

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
Joel

Awesome man, always feels great to see people taking action and end up successful

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richh100

12 years ago

$55k (gross) - $13k (net) = 42,000 spent to make $13,000.. just because no one knows how reads or simply arithmetic

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Marketron

12 years ago

Cool thread, thanks for the continuous updates over the years.

I'm about to dive into CPA and the various tidbits of info are much appreciated.

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FXdarling

12 years ago

I understand that there is not point for you to share any specific info about your campaign. But can you share the ppc network that you are using. there is so much networks with bad traffic over there.

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FrozenEyes

12 years ago

Thanks a lot joelraitt.
This is an inspiration for newbies like me who is still struggling to go up up and away!
Haha
I have learn a lot here and I would like to learn some more from you.
Hope you dont mind

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12 years ago

Congratulations. Working smart get a lot of reword.

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Nick House

12 years ago

Great story, joelraitt. Well timed too. I was skeptical about PPC as I'm on a seriously limited budget but I think it's time to step up the marketing campaign. Good to hear a success story.

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joelraitt

12 years ago

Update: My friends who took the spots had moderate success but never fully committed. It's so weird. You try to help and people get scared or distracted or something...

As for me..if anyone's interested...not gunna lie its pretty crazy...not that crazy of money but best set up ive found...

I have a couple traffic sources I now control that generate a stable 40,000 - 70,000 a month profit...the best part is I worked less then 1 hour (checked once a week to make sure sales we good and had to make an invoice) all of February...( I was in NZ for 3 weeks and Thailand for 2 weeks)

I have 1 employee who works his own hours from home...about 1-3 hours a day...I pay him 25 an hour.

Guys....its possible...read the 4 hour work week and improve on it...it can be even easier then that...use what he teaches but with affilaite stuff so you don't have to deal with customers or products.

Thanks for all the post and keeping this thread going...pretty solid thread these days...

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stfu0

12 years ago

Nice update. Sad that someone succesfull like you is willing to help a few people and they end up not busting their a$$ under your direction and lose out. I just made my first $15 yesterday on pof (had to spend $20 in advertising) after a month of learning and losing $. It's not a profit, but I know it's a step in the right direction. Don't give up people, find one thing and stick to it. Don't keep jumping around. Be very disciplined and you will see results soon enough. Have to spend $ to make $, but it's worth it in the end.

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mraudi

12 years ago

Originally Posted by stfu0

Nice update. Sad that someone succesfull like you is willing to help a few people and they end up not busting their a$$ under your direction and lose out. I just made my first $15 yesterday on pof (had to spend $20 in advertising) after a month of learning and losing $. It's not a profit, but I know it's a step in the right direction. Don't give up people, find one thing and stick to it. Don't keep jumping around. Be very disciplined and you will see results soon enough. Have to spend $ to make $, but it's worth it in the end.

Hey just because you didn't make a profit doesn't mean you have to beat yourself up. The feeling of getting a conversion is the GREATEST feeling in the world. It only makes you want to push yourself harder and bust your balls literally trying to get more conversions. I know how it feels like because I've been there but I am tweaking and optimizing my campaigns every single day! So give yourself a pat on the shoulder and work harder than ever!

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stfu0

12 years ago

Originally Posted by mraudi

Hey just because you didn't make a profit doesn't mean you have to beat yourself up. The feeling of getting a conversion is the GREATEST feeling in the world. It only makes you want to push yourself harder and bust your balls literally trying to get more conversions. I know how it feels like because I've been there but I am tweaking and optimizing my campaigns every single day! So give yourself a pat on the shoulder and work harder than ever!

Yeah I totally agree. I was pretty excited to see I made $15 off of 2 signups. Just have to test more, find the best ones and scale up. Hope to just keep going up from here.

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Clara H

12 years ago

Just finished reading this thread from the start to the end, amazing to read about your journey, joelraitt, all the way up to 2013! I have been doing Internet marketing for a while but am just getting started in CPA marketing. This thread has been very inspiring and I've managed to put together a few pages of notes from it.

I have a couple of questions about your landing pages if you don't mind me asking:
1. Do you buy a different domain for each offer or do you use the same website for everything?
2. Do you just have one page on your website (your landing page plus maybe privacy policy, etc) or do you build multiple pages with content, articles, etc?

I hope to post my success story soon, CPA marketing really seems like something that will suit me more than anything. Thanks again.

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joelraitt

12 years ago

Hey Clara,

Good questions:

1) I would usually buy a new domain for a new offer I was testing. Just looks better and keeps things simpler. It also keeps things more hidden.
2) Yah usually 1 page, other things are just distractions...be to the point and tell tell them exactly what to do - strong call to action (some ad companies want you to have PP and TC on the bottom, I usually ad these as well, since its good to have and build trust for some people as well)

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Clara H

Just finished reading this thread from the start to the end, amazing to read about your journey, joelraitt, all the way up to 2013! I have been doing Internet marketing for a while but am just getting started in CPA marketing. This thread has been very inspiring and I've managed to put together a few pages of notes from it.

I have a couple of questions about your landing pages if you don't mind me asking:
1. Do you buy a different domain for each offer or do you use the same website for everything?
2. Do you just have one page on your website (your landing page plus maybe privacy policy, etc) or do you build multiple pages with content, articles, etc?

I hope to post my success story soon, CPA marketing really seems like something that will suit me more than anything. Thanks again.

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ATPMarketing 12 years ago

Joel,

What has worked better for you please?

email marketing, listbuilding i mean through and AR
social networking ie Fanpages, or Web 2.0 sites
or blogs and working close into authority blogging ie Empower, NMVT, TalkFusion etc.
PPC on facebook, adwords, or Bidvertiser,
or simply video marketing what is the best medium for CPA Marketing please.

thanks

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  Sorry this took so long...
  
  There is no 'best way' to do things...everyone would give you a different answer...some of my friends the best way i email, others its getting traffic from affiliate networks, otehrs its facebook or google...
  
  personally I like facebook.
  
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ceohoangtung

12 years ago

I think making money on personal pages, social networking now we need to go deeper into the content and what we recognize that the right to share really, work together to build and develop it, helpmodel generation learn about making money online in any direction?

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12 years ago

Nice job man! Congratulations for you success!

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Ruck

12 years ago

Excellent job on taking action and being successful! I've been coaching multi-million dollar CPA Affiliates for years and always enjoy to hear someone having success. Founded a former CPA Network before starting Revived Media last year and already have more 6-figure a month earners. GREAT JOB!

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DJXA 12 years ago

I can't believe this thread has been alive for so long, but I guess that alone is evidence of how much great information is hidden in here! I just read the entire thread from start to finish and although I'm working with CPM marketing there still a lot of advice that carries over.

Thanks to Joel and everyone who contributed (ok, maybe not the "what network do you use" folks on every page, but everyone else )
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devonm

12 years ago

damn.... just damn!

I am getting started with ppc. Just building up my paypal to start a campaign with "something"

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joelraitt 12 years ago

Originally Posted by devonm

damn.... just damn!

I am getting started with ppc. Just building up my paypal to start a campaign with "something"

I heard "something" is a great niche!
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jasonbrownaim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
Joel

How do you do that ?
What is your marketing method ?
You just share here so that everyone can start like you.

Also, if you feel free please contact me and we are welcome you on our network.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by jasonbrownaim

How do you do that ?
What is your marketing method ?
You just share here so that everyone can start like you.

Also, if you feel free please contact me and we are welcome you on our network.

Not sure if you're serious...

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dosapati

12 years ago

what an amazing thread..i came to end here...inspiring one Joelraitt..thanks

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DayIFly

12 years ago

Hi Joel, what´s up! How are things going? Thanks for this great thread. I am just starting out, so it was both inspirational and very valuable. Also a great thanks to all contributors (especially Kenster)!

This is my second post here on WF, so I want to provide as much value as I can. I compiled this thread into an ordered Q&A pdf file that can be printed out (33 pages!).

***If some contributors aren´t comfortable with that, I will put the file down, of course. Simply send me a PM.***

At first, I did this compilation only for me alone. But now, I think why don´t give it out to everyone.

As I did it originally only for me, I didn´t bother to keep the answers and questions exactly as they were written down here in the thread. I changed some words and sentences, the sentence structures, puntuations, use of upper/lower case letters, summarized some questions and put some answers together, etc.

As english is not my first language, I´ve surely made some mistakes, but the goal was to increase the reading flow for "me".

For navigating this pdf file:

"Q" means that someone asked a question. Sometimes I used "Member1", "Member2", or "Another Member".

I used these terms to differentiate between different questioners "within" a given single paragraph, so you don´t get confused and you see a certain structure while reading. This holds true for every single paragraph.

But there is no identifiable interrelation between several individual paragraphs. So, as said before, you can only differentiate within a single paragraph.

You know that within a paragraph "Q" is not the same questioner as "Another Member". This can´t be said comparing two different paragraphs. That means "Q" in paragraph 1 can be "Q" in paragraph 8, as well as "Member1" or no one, etc.

"A" means it´s an answer from Joel. "K" is an answer from Kenster. The other terms are self-explanatory.

PS: I know that this thread was started at the end of 2009, and a lot has changed since then. But I think that the basic principles and mindset stuff remain the same. So take it for what it is. See what it takes to be successful. Take all that specific information together to see the big picture and extract the basic principles out from it.

Take care,

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by DayIFly

Hi Joel, what´s up! How are things going? Thanks for this great thread. I am just starting out, so it was both inspirational and very valuable. Also a great thanks to all contributors (especially Kenster)!

This is my second post here on WF, so I want to provide as much value as I can. I compiled this thread into an ordered Q&A pdf file that can be printed out (33 pages!).

***If some contributors aren´t comfortable with that, I will put the file down, of course. Simply send me a PM.***

At first, I did this compilation only for me alone. But now, I think why don´t give it out to everyone.

As I did it originally only for me, I didn´t bother to keep the answers and questions exactly as they were written down here in the thread. I changed some words and sentences, the sentence structures, puntuations, use of upper/lower case letters, summarized some questions and put some answers together, etc.

As english is not my first language, I´ve surely made some mistakes, but the goal was to increase the reading flow for "me".

For navigating this pdf file:

"Q" means that someone asked a question. Sometimes I used "Member1", "Member2", or "Another Member".

I used these terms to differentiate between different questioners "within" a given single paragraph, so you don´t get confused and you see a certain structure while reading. This holds true for every single paragraph.

But there is no identifiable interrelation between several individual paragraphs. So, as said before, you can only differentiate within a single paragraph.

You know that within a paragraph "Q" is not the same questioner as "Another Member". This can´t be said comparing two different paragraphs. That means "Q" in paragraph 1 can be "Q" in paragraph 8, as well as "Member1" or no one, etc.

"A" means it´s an answer from Joel. "K" is an answer from Kenster. The other terms are self-explanatory.

PS: I know that this thread was started at the end of 2009, and a lot has changed since then. But I think that the basic principles and mindset stuff remain the same. So take it for what it is. See what it takes to be successful. Take all that specific information together to see the big picture and extract the basic principles out from it.

Take care,

Wow, that's a pretty awesome compilation there and thanks for the shoutout. Good on you for delivering value like that buddy!

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12 years ago

haha man!well done this is really cool....i actualy saved it myself and will use it from time to time - so interesting looking back on how I thought then to how I think now even.....great stuff!!!!

Originally Posted by DayIFly

Hi Joel, what´s up! How are things going? Thanks for this great thread. I am just starting out, so it was both inspirational and very valuable. Also a great thanks to all contributors (especially Kenster)!

This is my second post here on WF, so I want to provide as much value as I can. I compiled this thread into an ordered Q&A pdf file that can be printed out (33 pages!).

***If some contributors aren´t comfortable with that, I will put the file down, of course. Simply send me a PM.***

At first, I did this compilation only for me alone. But now, I think why don´t give it out to everyone.

As I did it originally only for me, I didn´t bother to keep the answers and questions exactly as they were written down here in the thread. I changed some words and sentences, the sentence structures, puntuations, use of upper/lower case letters, summarized some questions and put some answers together, etc.

As english is not my first language, I´ve surely made some mistakes, but the goal was to increase the reading flow for "me".

For navigating this pdf file:

"Q" means that someone asked a question. Sometimes I used "Member1", "Member2", or "Another Member".

I used these terms to differentiate between different questioners "within" a given single paragraph, so you don´t get confused and you see a certain structure while reading. This holds true for every single paragraph.

But there is no identifiable interrelation between several individual paragraphs. So, as said before, you can only differentiate within a single paragraph.

You know that within a paragraph "Q" is not the same questioner as "Another Member". This can´t be said comparing two different paragraphs. That means "Q" in paragraph 1 can be "Q" in paragraph 8, as well as "Member1" or no one, etc.

"A" means it´s an answer from Joel. "K" is an answer from Kenster. The other terms are self-explanatory.

PS: I know that this thread was started at the end of 2009, and a lot has changed since then. But I think that the basic principles and mindset stuff remain the same. So take it for what it is. See what it takes to be successful. Take all that specific information together to see the big picture and extract the basic principles out from it.

Take care,

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DayIFly

12 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

haha man!well done this is really cool....i actualy saved it myself and will use it from time to time - so interesting looking back on how I thought then to how I think now even.....great stuff!!!!

Glad you liked it! If you don´t mind answering this, is your main focus now creating/owning assets like traffic sources, etc. or are you still primarily doing the arbitrage stuff?

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by DayIFly

Glad you liked it! If you don´t mind answering this, is your main focus now creating/owning assets like traffic sources, etc. or are you still primarily doing the arbitrage stuff?

Now I mostly build assets and my own traffic sources...i find its less stress, a little more fun, and I make more money overall...

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wrcato2

12 years ago

Wow... a lot of excellent advice on this thread. One thing about using google adwords just incase you didn't know about this little trick.

You can test the conversion of your ads simply by only targeting your keywords and not putting your ad on the content network. Sounds counter intuitive, but you are just testing your conversion. If you make a few sales or your satisfied with your results then test the ad on the content network.

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DaveWarrior

11 years ago

Hey joel, great thread, just read the whole thing. I've just started ppc as of a few weeks ago and currently have an offer I think I can turn profitable. I thought my ad was good at 0.1%, but you said its tough below 0.15%, can you elaborate on this? My clicks are costing $0.32 today FYI (Facebook).

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by DaveWarrior

Hey joel, great thread, just read the whole thing. I've just started ppc as of a few weeks ago and currently have an offer I think I can turn profitable. I thought my ad was good at 0.1%, but you said its tough below 0.15%, can you elaborate on this? My clicks are costing $0.32 today FYI (Facebook).

Hey man, well a good CTR helps, it doesn't matter the CPC as long as you're earning more...back in the day people told me anyhting under .2 would fail...

At the time I was running a .08 - .15 ad and making 5k+ a day.... its all about you and your campgian

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awotwu

11 years ago

Hi Joe,

I just read through the whole thread.

It is very inspiring.

Although English is my second language, I will still work on it.

Thank you for your sharing.

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petjelly

11 years ago

This is the first time I am checking this thread. How are you earning coming alone nowadays? Good Read btw.

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joelraitt 11 years ago

They are good, not as up and down, more consistent...and frees my time up to do other stuff...before you had to watch like a hawk for issues and other wholes in the flow!
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yako

10 years ago

### UPDATE: I found the PDF. Almost everything answered there. Thanks!

I wonder if you direct link to the offers or make your own landing pages or you own some sites? Also, what is the minimum amount of payout of the offers you chose to promote? I bet you don't promote those $1.5 email submits, do you?

Thanks!

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by yako

### UPDATE: I found the PDF. Almost everything answered there. Thanks!

I wonder if you direct link to the offers or make your own landing pages or you own some sites? Also, what is the minimum amount of payout of the offers you chose to promote? I bet you don't promote those $1.5 email submits, do you?

Thanks!

been a long time...

I usually make a landing page but sometimes I DL....got to test that for each offer...the bigger the payout usually the more an LP is needed...

I don;t set a minimum, but I more meant the 3-10 dollar payouts have worked best for me...

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joelraitt

10 years ago

Been awhile...anyone interested in another Q and A?

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Al amin

10 years ago

So its time to make a WSO and sell. Lol

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sufeyh

10 years ago

Well here's a hint guys, since he says he DL sometimes then we can safely assume he doesn't get his traffic from a certain company starting with g

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joelraitt 10 years ago

haha it's mostly Facebook traffic - more then enough traffic for everyone out there!

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Well here's a hint guys, since he says he DL sometimes then we can safely assume he doesn't get his traffic from a certain company starting with g
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  I guessed so! Bing has too low volume to make $45k with. Thanks for the share
  
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Internetjunky

10 years ago

Interesting. WOW! Sounds like a WSO should be in the works.

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joelraitt

10 years ago

No plans for a WSO - not even sure what that is...maybe ill do a PDF and show the exact LP, offer and ads I used to create that.....it was a long time ago....wont work now....although people are still doing the offer on Facebook....so one of you could probably figure it out....

anyone interested in that? ill do it for free....

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Succeed247 10 years ago

Hey Joel,
This is my very first post on Warrior Forum. Congrats!! I read this from the beginning to the end. This thread has been running for this long, amazing!! I am new to affiliate marketing an haven't started yet as I do soo much reading, I sometimes go into information overload. I read a lot of pdf's which is my preference. It would be great if you did offer a pdf file. Just wanted to wish you more success for 2015 and keep up the great work.
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samtradax

10 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No plans for a WSO - not even sure what that is...maybe ill do a PDF and show the exact LP, offer and ads I used to create that.....it was a long time ago....wont work now....although people are still doing the offer on Facebook....so one of you could probably figure it out....

anyone interested in that? ill do it for free....

So.. seems like there is always more knowledge to be gained than can ever be absorbed.. and trying to sort the good from the bad is important too.. I've been tinkering this last few weeks with CPL/PPL & so far have not been successful in attracting any more than a measly $70 in two weeks using a shady BH method involving certain dating site profiles + autoresponder setups... WAY too much hard work.. I've tried CB stuff in the past but always found the LP sales pitch's far too gaudy or scammy to allow me to promote effectively & I guess the point to my rambling is this..

I came across this thread out of a billion others across the internet, but it's held my interest long enough to read the 1st 4 pages straight, & now here i've skipped to the end (more out of curiosity that the OP would still be posting after all this time, congrats btw you still are!

lol ) and am commenting.... I think i've read enough to get the original message i believe you were trying to convey... that if you think outside the flock's blinkered views & create something that works for you, trust instincts and take a lil risk or two, be original, smart and logical.. it'll work. is that right?

Man. If I'd started with this thread I'd have saved myself a bigola lotta time over the years of playing PPC with adwords/sense.. no wonder none of it made sense, written by idiots.. or cleaver diversionaries....?? hmmmm, there's a thought.. lol.. tin-hat time!! hehe

you speak sense though, & have inspired me this evening sir, thank you. Love how you give the basic method, & let the reader fill the gaps with their own content/ingredients. awesome. take care man, good luck in all you do, happy & prosperous new year!!

oh.. ps. if you DO do a pdf template..? i bet penny to the pound there will be a spate of copycat carbon copies all suddenly spring up... the blinkered ones. tc!

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joelraitt

10 years ago

Originally Posted by samtradax

So.. seems like there is always more knowledge to be gained than can ever be absorbed.. and trying to sort the good from the bad is important too.. I've been tinkering this last few weeks with CPL/PPL & so far have not been successful in attracting any more than a measly $70 in two weeks using a shady BH method involving certain dating site profiles + autoresponder setups... WAY too much hard work.. I've tried CB stuff in the past but always found the LP sales pitch's far too gaudy or scammy to allow me to promote effectively & I guess the point to my rambling is this..

I came across this thread out of a billion others across the internet, but it's held my interest long enough to read the 1st 4 pages straight, & now here i've skipped to the end (more out of curiosity that the OP would still be posting after all this time, congrats btw you still are!

lol ) and am commenting.... I think i've read enough to get the original message i believe you were trying to convey... that if you think outside the flock's blinkered views & create something that works for you, trust instincts and take a lil risk or two, be original, smart and logical.. it'll work. is that right?

Man. If I'd started with this thread I'd have saved myself a bigola lotta time over the years of playing PPC with adwords/sense.. no wonder none of it made sense, written by idiots.. or cleaver diversionaries....?? hmmmm, there's a thought.. lol.. tin-hat time!! hehe

you speak sense though, & have inspired me this evening sir, thank you. Love how you give the basic method, & let the reader fill the gaps with their own content/ingredients. awesome. take care man, good luck in all you do, happy & prosperous new year!!

oh.. ps. if you DO do a pdf template..? i bet penny to the pound there will be a spate of copycat carbon copies all suddenly spring up... the blinkered ones. tc!

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it, this thread started a long time ago...i've learnt a lot since then that's for sure...things change fast but the principles are always the same...

cheers to your luck....

P.S. i think someone put together a PDF summary of the thread....its inthis thread somewhere...

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swiftini

10 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

No plans for a WSO - not even sure what that is...maybe ill do a PDF and show the exact LP, offer and ads I used to create that.....

You've been on the WF since 2009 and you don't know what a WSO is?

it was a long time ago....wont work now....although people are still doing the offer on Facebook....so one of you could probably figure it out....

So if it doesn't work any more how can somebody figure it out?

anyone interested in that? ill do it for free....

Who wouldn't be interested?

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joelraitt

10 years ago

Originally Posted by swiftini

You've been on the WF since 2009 and you don't know what a WSO is?

So if it doesn't work any more how can somebody figure it out?

Who wouldn't be interested?

1) Sorry - I know what a WSO is but dont know the rules or fees or any of that...it's just a product...never bought one

2) The exact ads wont work (maybe they will) but I doubt it....but its good to see a sinle ad and landing page that made hundreds of thousands of dollars....then ask why....study it...and try to do the same for other ads...all success leads clues man! I go back to that ad and LP all the time when testing new things....

3) Ask some questions and ill answer!

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swiftini

10 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

1) Sorry - I know what a WSO is but dont know the rules or fees or any of that...it's just a product...never bought one

2) The exact ads wont work (maybe they will) but I doubt it....but its good to see a sinle ad and landing page that made hundreds of thousands of dollars....then ask why....study it...and try to do the same for other ads...all success leads clues man! I go back to that ad and LP all the time when testing new things....

3) Ask some questions and ill answer!

Ok sounds good. Here are some questions for you:

1. What is your niche?

2. Exactly what does your sales funnel look like. Do you send FB traffic diectly to a landing page that is a squeeze page and then follow that up with an autoresponder? If so how long is your autoresponder sequence and how long before you plug the product/offer?

3. What does your product offer consist of? What is it exactly? Is it a monthly rebill? Is it an info product? Is it a one time payment.

4. Do/did you have any upsells OTOs etc?

5. What was your target demographic (ages, gender, countries, interests - please be specific) ?.

6. What is/was your ROI ? What percentage of your total revenue was ad spend?

That's it for now - I may have some more for you soon.

Cheers,

Swiftini

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Azrise

10 years ago

Question: By land page, do you mean your facebook page? Because when you advertise on facebook, you're basically promoting your facebook page. Or do your facebook ads link directly to your URL?

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joelraitt

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Azrise

Question: By land page, do you mean your facebook page? Because when you advertise on facebook, you're basically promoting your facebook page. Or do your facebook ads link directly to your URL?

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I've done both. I've built FB pages and then marketed to them after...(it was better before, still works though)

The strategy this post talks about I was going direct to the URL of my landing page (page that sells the idea of the offer)

More questions?

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GGpaul

10 years ago

What traffic source did you use? And what traffic source are you using now? How much were you spending a day, what was your ROI? How much were you spending a day? What niche was this in?

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joelraitt

10 years ago

Originally Posted by GGpaul

What traffic source did you use? And what traffic source are you using now? How much were you spending a day, what was your ROI? How much were you spending a day? What niche was this in?

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Facebook. Today is still Facebook. It was around 75-125% ROI average. Spending per day was a long time ago but $2000 - $15,000. It was the education niche.

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10 years ago

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joelraitt 10 years ago

Originally Posted by ghost209

what kind of numbers you making these days?

I've had a few big days and months like that again - but been focusing on more consistent profit and building equity - but only $1000 a day average the last while - some smaller, some bigger....
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Dayne Dylan

Banned 10 years ago

"Only $1000 a day average" lol ;-)

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ThomasTe

10 years ago

Still like this thread

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joelraitt

10 years ago

I'm putting together a free 1-2 page PDF for you guys with the funnel / tools I use to launch / test campaigns fast on facebook

Going to include:

- Facebook ad advice ive learnt over the last 6 years of full time marketing on FB
- how I chose offers and niches to test
- how i build lists and earn money at the same time
- what i do after to continue to earn money from my lists
- the tools I use to do all this in a day or less (a test anyways)

What else would you want me to add?

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ChrisBa

9 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

I'm putting together a free 1-2 page PDF for you guys with the funnel / tools I use to launch / test campaigns fast on facebook

Going to include:

- Facebook ad advice ive learnt over the last 6 years of full time marketing on FB
- how I chose offers and niches to test
- how i build lists and earn money at the same time
- what i do after to continue to earn money from my lists
- the tools I use to do all this in a day or less (a test anyways)

What else would you want me to add?

This sounds awesome, i know this was a few months ago, did this ever get done???

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52.ct

9 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

I'm putting together a free 1-2 page PDF for you guys with the funnel / tools I use to launch / test campaigns fast on facebook

Going to include:

- Facebook ad advice ive learnt over the last 6 years of full time marketing on FB
- how I chose offers and niches to test
- how i build lists and earn money at the same time
- what i do after to continue to earn money from my lists
- the tools I use to do all this in a day or less (a test anyways)

What else would you want me to add?

Did you ever create this PDF and make it available?

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ELMOUDEN

9 years ago

Thank you for sharing this item and i hope to be like you in the next few days

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Sapiradco

9 years ago

WOW that is a lot of money !!
are these mainly CPL deals or CPA/S ?

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snewlun

9 years ago

That is a fantastic job well done. When you get a campaign that starts to produce profit in the range you want, it takes nerves of steel to pull the trigger and ramp up your spending on PPC to a level that shows the large profit.

Great job and keep it up!

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caubehntinhnghich

9 years ago

That's impressive! Well done...

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gamn13

9 years ago

Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that is can happen, I serioulsy had $27 rev in July, as of today, this second I have $48,768.30 rev so far this month.

***update 55,000 rev and to those wo think rev mean nothing, about 13,000 profit so far this month***

So to all you noobs out there it is possible!

Good Luck, I don't have much time but I can prob answer a few questions here and there to help out. No promises.

Have a good one,
Joel

I love seeing these type of posts. Because sometimes its really happens like that, but it wasnt luck, it was work.

Ive seen you already committed to a ton of split-testing, thats the number 1 thing Ive seen a lot of people don't do.

They test a few things, but not a 100 or more.

Keep going bro,
Wish you much success!

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im1217

9 years ago

WHere da PDF?

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wedjat1976

9 years ago

Very interesting stuff in this thread. Anything new to share. The PDF you mentioned would be great.

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dakar 9 years ago

Originally Posted by wedjat1976

Very interesting stuff in this thread. Anything new to share. The PDF you mentioned would be great.

Hi Joel,

How are you doing with this nowadays? Can you please update us?
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wealthyfreedom

8 years ago

thats one hell of a change, indeed to run that type of earnings need some proper capital aswell.
But indeed if you split tested & found that "winner" no reason why not to go ALL OUT on it ;D
Well done, will sure motivate allot of people on here

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deocode

8 years ago

what method do you use for it ? nice post if you share the tips,...

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I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?

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