Testing PPV offers

Everyone has their own method. Im terrible at PPV so Im probably giving you wrong info, but I usually let it run for 10,000 impressions then start cutting down data. If a target hasnt got a lot of impressions Ill let it run a little longer past the first cut.

As Cash said above, most have their own method and you'll develop your own as you go. In the end, for me at least, it really becomes more of a "gut feeling" IMHO.

3 x the payout is a good rule of thumb (per URL/keyword), but you'll quickly see that some URL's convert but need tweaking to get positive ROI, some convert through the roof right off the bat (hopefully!), and you'll see others that are just total dogs and need to be dropped quickly.

To each their own but personally I think testing 250 at the same time, particularly if you're just getting started with PPV and tracking, is WAY too much and could blow your budget VERY quickly. Again, it depends on how you approach it and your methods, and I know some of the big $$ CPA guys on here test 500+ at a time - but that's not my cup of tea and maybe comes down to the basic risk/reward ratio.

I think the max I've ever tested at once is around 50 and my usual campaign starts with a dozen to 20, well researched and targeted. As I start to weed out the dogs and get positive on others, I then add more, rinse and repeat.

There'll always be time and $$ to add more URL's/keywords to a promising campaign, but if 240 of yours are dogs straight away, it'll chew your budget before you can see the winners.


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Personally I wouldn't spend $2250 to test a $3 offer, but like stated above, everyone has there own way to test.. I'd spend maybe around $30 to test to see how many conversions, if I had some then would try to weed out losers to see how the winners perform

yes its true. your budget will be finished just after starting. so do it quickly. you can spend that much money but not for huge time. just observe very carefully that which keywords are working and which needs to be deleted.
if you can do it fast you can save your money.
thanks

A few of the most obvious ways you can tweak would be to:

• increase/decrease your bids
• split test landers
• split test different (similar) offers from the same aff network
• split test similar offers from other aff networks

As for AdOn network, I've found the traffic to be pretty low quality and there's not very much of it. But you can still get a positive campaign on there and it's pretty cheap to test.

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If i know that campaign can be profitable, i spend atleast $100 for testing.

I think my main issue is for the campaign I'm using the payout is way too low relative to what I'm paying per click. 2-3 cents per click for an offer that pays 1.60 is something I think I'm wasting my time with. I need to find a better offer

You'd be surprised. If you hit a winner then you can easy pull 1-2 hundred+ profit a day on Lead Impact from a $1.60 payout (until you get scrubbed!). 3 cents a view does makes it pretty hard but if you can get it between 1.5 and 2 with a good campaign you should be laughing.

Have a closer look at your URLs. If there is competition there, then someone is probably making bank out of it. Could you maybe try to hit a deeper URL on the main site that is still relevant but nobody else is hitting? Or, if you've only got one other competitor, drop your bid to minimum and see if you still get traffic

Also, if you're using URL bidding, try using the URL with and without a slash ("domain.com" & "domain.com/" ). You'll usually get less traffic from the slash but you'll normally get it at minimum bid.

I think I've posted this before somewhere, but here's an example of a $1.55 payout that works fine at an average CPV of around 1.7 cents (i think this was a 48 hour snapshot from memory).

Yeah I will generally just throw $50-$100 down on a campaign and if I don't see any potential there (i.e conversions) I will just move on and try something else.

Just my personal taste though - everyone has their own way of doing things.

Filter, thanks for the awesome tips. Much appreciated! I will definitely start tweaking my campaigns to take advantage of these things.

so this is the post where I come back and say GRRRRRRR i spent around $270 so far testing around 5 different campaigns. Out of the $270 I spent, I recovered roughly $80 in leads. So I guess I've lost $190 so far.

I just can't seem to find a campaign that is converting anywhere near profitable. For example, the URLs with the highest amount of traffic convert but not at a winning rate. Here is a picture of my results after a week of testing one offer. As you can see, the offers receiving the most traffic are losers.



I've gone through PPV Formula and PPV Playbook and other PPV materials but they're telling me to test hundreds of URLs to find winning ones.

I'm officially lost. :-/

Are there any PPV coaches that charge a reasonable rate? Should I try landing pages instead of direct linking?

All of my results are from LeadImpact and I have started AdOn Network but their traffic is trickling in verrrry slowly.

Anyways, any more input would be appreciated I don't wanna give up with PPV.

Also Bevo Media has nice tracking stats when it comes to ppv. I highly recommend you check it out.

http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...n-hearsay.html

Not sure what timezone you're in, but if you can catch me on Skype, hit me up and we can have a more in depth chat to see where things are going wrong

Cheers

I think if your chances are very small of wining as you stated earlier - $270 costs for $180, you would better simply give up the plan and try some thing new with does not offer any lose.

as far I get PPV is like some thing depend on luck where more are loser.

I have a high tolerance for loss and lots of patience as I play online poker for a living... so I'm not worried about losing the money

I just really want to figure out the successful combination or what it takes to get it.

hey what budget do you guys run your PPV campaigns at and how many different tweaks for each campaign do you do at a time - I guess we're all working with different budgets here - if you could give it from the broke perspective, bare minimum, that'd be greatly appreciated :-)

LOL sorry, didnt word that in the best way.... I mean Ive read lots about that you make a PPV ad, and then maybe its not converting how you want so you want to change something, but you can get software that allows you to do this on the fly, which costs a bit... you know how you can run a facebook ad and try a few different versions of that same ad?? thats what I meant... :-)

Try Tracking202.
Or Prosper202 if you want to host it yourself.

I try to test some dating offer but so poor traffic quality . about 100 click got 1 lead.

Everyone that is reporting poor conversion, are you guys trying to sell directly or building a list and then hitting them up with several emails?

May not make any difference, just curious.

Tanvir