Finding Affiliate Products

by mreed
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Quick question...

I'm running into an issue in regards to monetizing my website.

My website is pretty scarce of content and I'm working on that. It's also a growing work in project.

In the meantime, I've got long tail keywords I'm focusing on AND affiliate products I'm very interested in promoting that "fit" my niche.

The issue I'm running into is the companies offering the affiliate programs are not approving me as an affiliate. I'm assuming it's primarily due to my lack of a quality website.

Should I be building a solid website with lots of visitors before trying to apply for affiliate programs?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    My website is pretty scarce of content and I'm working on that.
    Define 'scarce' - how many pages of content do you have on your site? How quickly are you adding new content to the site?

    Should I be building a solid website with lots of visitors before trying to apply for affiliate programs?
    If you are being declined due to a 'thin' site - isn't that the advice you are getting from those programs? It is a step by step process (which is something you've asked about before) - but you have to DO the steps properly to get to where you want to be.

    If you have a site with little focus or content or interest....and you slap up some affiliate links....what happens?

    Nothing - because no one is there to click on a link.... If there are no visitors - there are no buyers. If the site is not interesting, visitors will leave rather than click your affiliate links.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    Originally Posted by mreed View Post

    Quick question...

    I'm running into an issue in regards to monetizing my website.

    My website is pretty scarce of content and I'm working on that. It's also a growing work in project.

    In the meantime, I've got long tail keywords I'm focusing on AND affiliate products I'm very interested in promoting that "fit" my niche.

    The issue I'm running into is the companies offering the affiliate programs are not approving me as an affiliate. I'm assuming it's primarily due to my lack of a quality website.

    Should I be building a solid website with lots of visitors before trying to apply for affiliate programs?


    Once again, you are putting the cart before the horse.

    Why would you contact affiliate networks/managers when
    your site isn't finished yet?

    Do you understand that some of them may have dozens
    to hundreds of applicants every single day, most with no
    experience and spammy half-fast websites just like yours.

    It doesn't matter about your long-tail keywords if you have
    not developed any/quality content.

    Read a book about affiliate marketing, how to set up a
    website, how to develop content, and any other topic
    that you are lacking and prepare for the slog of trying
    to get approved and generating affiliate income.
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    • Profile picture of the author mreed
      Thanks. Appreciate the feedback.

      For some reason I keep thinking everything needs to be "in place". I need to remember it's ever evolving.

      I've read quite a few books and I've followed a few gurus. The basics always sound pretty simple...until (for example) you go to setup a PayPal account and it's a 3hr event, a new checking acct, new user names, passwords, etc. Every step in the simple process seems to have 3-4 additional steps....and before you know it you have a binder full of accounts...and still no functioning website.

      I have 10 pages of quality content around good keywords. I used Google Keyword Planner and found some long tail keywords - per advice from others. I'm not using AI and instead trying to put my personal touch on things.

      I just thought it was a good time to introduce product reviews and things I'd promote as an affiliate.

      I'm being rejected as an affiliate for no reason. So I guess it's just too soon. Sorry if it seems I'm asking the same questions...but I didn't think I asked this before. Honestly, I didn't really realize I had to have a fully operational and thriving site before I can monetize with affiliate links. I've been a little surprised at all the rejections.

      Maybe I shouldn't have been surprised. But again...it's figuring out the 3-4 steps between the assumed simple steps.
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  • Hey M, the short answer is yes.

    Any affiliate program that's worth a long-term commitment is going to be in a network that has guidelines about who they accept.

    Traffic and how you intend to promote that product is a top focus.

    What I've found is building an audience is best. That's if you're trying to make this a long-term multi-six-figure or more shift from the 9-5.



    Sign up for an affiliate program in your niche that's a lower ticket item, something easy to get approved for. Then build a squeeze page, create a kick-ass lead magnet, and build your list while promoting that one product to them.

    After you build your list, add more content to your site, and start getting traffic you can come back and apply.

    And that's a good thing. Because once you build a list that knows, likes, and trusts you. You can promote your new affiliate program to them and crush it right out of the gate.

    (promotional link removed - paid ads only)

    Either way, hope this helps.

    To your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    The basics always sound pretty simple...until (for example) you go to setup a PayPal account and it's a 3hr event, a new checking acct, new user names, passwords, etc. Every step in the simple process seems to have 3-4 additional steps....and before you know it you have a binder full of accounts...and still no functioning website.
    You are right - everything seems to have multiple steps - which is why no one can say do 1,2,3...you're done. I'm not one to advise 'take courses, etc' - what I did was to keep going till I couldn't...then stopped long enough to learn WHAT I NEEDED to know to get past that 'bump' and then keep going. There are so many more tools and helpful sites now than there were then. If you just keep going - keep using google search and learning the little things you don't understand or know how to do...in six months you will be shocked at how much your site has grown and how much more YOU know.

    As you look up how to do this and that, keep in mind it's not rocket science. It took me a while to realize I was making the process much harder than it really was. Don't look for problems - look for solutions and learn to recognize a solution when you find it.

    Don't think small when it comes to your website. 15 yrs ago I would not launch a new site (i.e., put it online) without 30 pgs of new content...plus the disclaimers and privacy blah blah necessary. Today I'd want 100 pages of unique content when I STARTED.

    To avoid procrastination and second guessing, have a plan for adding site content. A plan means you identify the BEST 10-15 (or 20) keywords and keyword phrases and topics in your particular niche....each MONTH.

    Make a list of those 'content topics' and each day you go down the list and write an article or post on the next two 'keywords' on your list. You don't pick and choose - you research and write and stick with the list. If you do that for a month it will become faster and easier - and your site will grow in a logical, planned way.

    The above sounds more complex than it is. Without a plan for adding content you'll waste time daily trying to think up what to write about....if you have some extra time, think up some catchy titles for the articles you'll write next week. That will save even more time when you sit down to write content.

    One last piece of advice - when you are researching online or looking up an answer....do not BUY anything or join anything. Do not read sales pages on other sites. If something does appeal to you - write own the name/site and do not visit that site again for 24-48 hrs. Why? Because everything you join or purchase takes time away from building your site and creating your business. Sales copy is written to convince you to purchase....by walking away for at least one full day you take the time to think clearly. Most of the time, if you DO bother to go back a day or two later....the product or signup will no longer appeal to you.

    If you have a tendency to add your email to lists - start a new gmail acct and dedicate it to 'signups'....so your regular email doesn't fill up with time wasting emails.


    What you are doing above is taking control of your new business - and managing your time. You can do this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


      Don't think small when it comes to your website. 15 yrs ago I would not launch a new site (i.e., put it online) without 30 pgs of new content...plus the disclaimers and privacy blah blah necessary. Today I'd want 100 pages of unique content when I STARTED.

      This is so true.

      Back in the day you could slap together a few pages of
      content and actually get your site showing up at the top
      of search results.

      These days you need to do much more if you want to be
      found by anyone, unless it's just a landing page that you
      are promoting all over the place.

      To the OP, I know that some people are against this, but
      do yourself a massive favor and let ChatGPT help you
      with your content. At least use it to develop your outlines.

      You can always go over what it provided and re-write it,
      delete it, or whatever. That is what I do and it allows me
      to be much more productive than I ever was.

      Don't get left in the dust because you don't want to use
      technology, while everybody else is speeding ahead in
      front of you.
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      • Profile picture of the author mreed
        Good advice. I'll look into ChatGPT for outlines and guidance.

        Actually, a while back I looked into trying to write a novel with ChatGPT but I could only figure out how to create an outline. It was pretty cool. Sidebar: I just don't know how people use it to create big things.
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    • Profile picture of the author mreed
      I LOVE the focused plan. That honestly suites my nature perfectly. ...and I fully believe 110% results will be seen in as little as 30 days. Maybe not profits...but RESULTS from good, quality, hard work. ;-)

      One last piece of advice - when you are researching online or looking up an answer....do not BUY anything or join anything. Do not read sales pages on other sites. If something does appeal to you - write own the name/site and do not visit that site again for 24-48 hrs. Why? Because everything you join or purchase takes time away from building your site and creating your business.
      This is GOLDEN advice!
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  • Profile picture of the author mreed
    Sidebar: Why wouldn't a company want anybody and everybody promoting there product?
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by mreed View Post

      Sidebar: Why wouldn't a company want anybody and everybody promoting there product?


      Are you serious?

      Let's say you are a high end jewelry or watch line.

      Would you want your products featured on somebody's
      low-budget website, that isn't even finished?

      Of course not!
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      • Profile picture of the author mreed
        I'll play devil's advocate here....
        ...I would assume any promotion is good promotion.

        I mean....let's say I'm a tarnished coin collector scamming people. I place your ad for garden supplies, and someone just happens on your website and is so happy to find it. Was it bad that you associated yourself with a disgruntled coin collector? Does that person even remember how they stumbled upon your website? My money is on "no."

        Throw your cast into the sea of a thousand fish and see what happens. Why not?

        Would Walmart care whether their ad is displayed at the Ritz Carlton or Motel 6? (I'm thinking they wouldn't care as long as they got their name out there...)
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        Worse yet, do you want your products misrepresented? Do you want to see yourself misrepresented? Do you want your $7000 watch shown next to a $39 Waterproof Silicone Realstic Dildo G Spot Vibrator Vagina Massager Clitoris Stimulator Waterproof Adult Sex Toy for Women just because your affiliate is an affiliate for WalMart too? Or, for that matter, for any reason?



        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        Are you serious?

        Let's say you are a high end jewelry or watch line.

        Would you want your products featured on somebody's
        low-budget website, that isn't even finished?

        Of course not!
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    • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
      Originally Posted by mreed View Post

      Sidebar: Why wouldn't a company want anybody and everybody promoting there product?
      Look what happened to Bud Light sales over an influencer who promoted their beer. Without getting into politics a large majority of Bud Light drinkers got mad and boycotted the company. Costing loss of sales!

      Google used to allow Adsense on websites with hardly any content, back about 12 years ago. Because ads were just getting clicks with no sales. They change the rules to protect their advertisers.

      Amazon at one time allowed just about anyone with a website to become an affiliate. Now you have a 90-day trial period if accepted. If you do not make a sale they remove you from the program automatically.

      There is always a cost factor to attract customers. Some of the Clickbank programs want affiliates that bring sales. Instead of time to set up a marketer for a random sale that may wind up becoming a chargeback.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    ..I would assume any promotion is good promotion.
    You're wrong about that....but more critically - you are taking a side path that will not serve your business goals at all. You are arguing a subject you have no experience in. Ecommerce is huge and people buy from sites that appear to be knowledgeable and trustworthy.

    Throw your cast into the sea of a thousand fish and see what happens. Why not?
    Because people are not fish. You can do that if you have plenty of time to waste...but why bother?

    Would Walmart care whether their ad is displayed at the Ritz Carlton or Motel 6?
    Yes - because their customers are more likely to be at Motel 6. TARGETED marketing.

    Of course businesses CARE about the quality of affiliates and affiliate sites. They do not want their product sold on porn sites or thin sites or by people who don't understand the need for quality. They also want to work with affiliates who know and adhere to legal issues and terms of service. If you truly don't understand that - maybe affiliate marketing is not the right direction for you.

    I'm thinking they wouldn't care
    ....and it gives you an excuse to discuss/argue 'what ifs' rather than work on your site. Procrastination is sneaky.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      If you truly don't understand that - maybe affiliate marketing is not the right direction for you.


      I hate telling people that internet marketing is not for
      them, but sometimes there is no other option.

      Last night, I posted instructions for using ChatGPT
      to write lengthy content, which I removed because

      People need to figure some things out for themselves

      How lazy are you to expect A.I. to churn out an entire
      novel with a single prompt

      After OP's devil's advocate post, I feel that I wasted
      my time with this one.
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      • Profile picture of the author mreed
        ...sorry - didn't mean to frustrate you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Last night, I posted instructions for using ChatGPT
    to write lengthy content

    Might be a good sticky post for the AI section... I'm not nearly as fluent in "AI" as you are because I don't have a need/use for it myself at this time. I know MikeF's sticky in that section has been popular and helpful.



    I think many IMers who are either new or unsuccessful view AI as 'the answer'....without bothering to learn the best ways to utilize it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Might be a good sticky post for the AI section

      I have always been reluctant to post too much on public forums.

      In this case, someone could take my post and develop it into an entire tutorial.

      I keep telling you all that ChatGPT and the others can help in all sorts of ways.

      Even if you just need a recipe, a household tip, how to do all sorts of things.

      It can probably tell you how to take care of your dog.
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  • Profile picture of the author aduttonater
    Apply a you go. Always add juicy content to your website l
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    First affiliate site I did had 57 pages within a short period. At that point, sellers started to contact me, asking me if I would be interested in promoting their products.


    It was the large number of pages and the quality contact I had that moved them to ask. I started the site in January. At the end of March of that year, the first contact / request came. In other words, I was new at being an affiliate... I chose a niche I knew stuff about and produced quality content.


    The 2nd one, I only had 4 pages... A year into it, Google ended kicking me out of AdSense due to thin content. But I made money, not a lot, but consistently...Back then, the craze was mini and disposable sites.


    I tried a couple, then decided, nah, not for me.


    I suggest, based on my experience, have a handful of good quality content before you approach them... Also know, in some fields, they never accept you unless you have made sales... as an affiliate for some other product.


    Are you in such a field? Then, promote something people interested in it would be interested and make a few sales before approaching sellers.


    If it's an affiliate program that's rejecting you, it might be because you do not have enough good content or you do not have the right pages (about us, contact us, terms and conditions) or because you do not have the affiliate disclaimers.



    Originally Posted by mreed View Post

    Quick question...

    I'm running into an issue in regards to monetizing my website.

    My website is pretty scarce of content and I'm working on that. It's also a growing work in project.

    In the meantime, I've got long tail keywords I'm focusing on AND affiliate products I'm very interested in promoting that "fit" my niche.

    The issue I'm running into is the companies offering the affiliate programs are not approving me as an affiliate. I'm assuming it's primarily due to my lack of a quality website.

    Should I be building a solid website with lots of visitors before trying to apply for affiliate programs?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Skog
    If you are building a website, then you might as well build an AUTHORITY website that will deem you as an expert in your chosen niche.

    And the best part of building an AUTHORITY website with lots of valuable content that your readers enjoy is that companies and affiliate networks will contact you and offer you incredible deals and discounts for your readers instead of you having to contact them. Businesses need websites to spread awareness about their products and services. They are actively looking for high-quality websites. They don't have time to approve websites with little to no content because it doesn't help their bottom line.

    So before you think about monetizing, think about filling your site with content. It is easier said than done but if you take CONSISTENT action, the results will be remarkable.
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