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I went back and forth on whether or not to post this but here we go: I need help with my marketing. It's getting to be the end of the month and times are suuuuper tight here (as they are everywhere, really) and I need to bring in some work. I've been answering ads like crazy. I've sent e-mails to my regulars to "check in" and mention my availability. I've doing my best to participate in forums but the truth is that while this is all I needed to do in the past to bring up business, this time it isn't working. And, I'll be the first to admit it: I'm great at coming up with marketing ideas and tactics for other people. I'm not so great and creative when it comes to my own business. Maybe it's because I'm too close to it to look at it objectively.

I would really appreciate it if you could help me brainstorm some marketing ideas to help drum up business (quickly).

And, hey, maybe this will help get the creative juices flowing for others who are also facing lean times. If you were going to market a content and copy business that was not your own, how would you do it if you were on a budget that made the shoestring look like Daddy Warbucks's wallet?

(Apologies if this should go on a different board, but I figured that fellow copywriters would be the best people to approach for advice on marketing a writing business)
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
      Hi Erin,

      Well, one of the first things I'd suggest you fix is your website. To be honest, it doesn't do a good selling your services and a lot of potential experienced clients are going to use that as a decision maker.

      If you can't sell them on even contacting them, then they will draw the conclusion that you can't sell their product for them if they hired you.

      Is it fair? Not always. But that's how many clients and high-level copywriters that I've talked in depth with think.

      Pick the top 5 copywriters who you either admire or think are top-shelf and look at their websites. You'll probably see that all of them do a really impressive job selling their skills.

      Okay, getting marketing ideas quickly. I've posted stuff before to questions like this in this copywriting forum and I have 2 projects open on my desk right now, so if you do a bit of digging, I'm sure you'll find some gold nuggets from many other copywriters.

      Here's a link to an audio interview I did a while ago with A-List copywriter Doug D'Anna. There's no opt-in and it's 100% free to listen to. Doug is a brilliant, ultra-successful copywriter and a great guy too.

      Market Your Copy and Doug D'Anna Exclusive Interview

      Anyways, I have to get back to write copy, so I'm signing off for now.

      Hope that helps,

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Collette
        Lord, girl, it's slap-upside-the-head-time!

        Your website landing page needs some serious work. I can't even tell whatall kinds of writing services you're offering. Waht is with that mumbled mish-mash you have on there?

        You'd NEVER produce that kind of lifeless copy for your clients. I just had to glance at a couple of your samples to see that.

        Don't make people work so hard to find out that you're THAT good.

        And you ARE making them work. They have to go on their own little sleuthing trip to discover your talent. And you ARE talented.

        Sure, if they check your samples they can see that you have some chops. IF. If they get that far.

        And why are your (really good) testimonials buried in the windswept hinterlands yonder of your site? Where nought but a passing tumbleweed blows by?

        Drag 'em out into the light of day where folks can see 'em. Specifically, use some of those glowing testimonials on your landing page. And if you wrote for recognized marketers - say so!

        You've got a talent and skills that can geniunely help people. Just don't make them work so hard to find out. Tell them why they should hire you. Tell them what you can do for them. Tell how to get you while the gettin's good.

        Become your own best client.

        Click on Mike's link, go listen to Doug, and get fired up to shine!
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  • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
    Collette, I heart you

    My goal, originally, with the front page was to keep potential clients from having to scroll... I can't remember where I picked up the idea that making them scroll on the first page was kind of a no-no, but that's why that I was there. I did change some of the text and add some very blatant links to the bottom of the front page. I used to have a section of my sidebar that contained the most recent client testimonial. Perhaps I should put that back?

    Thanks you guys for all of your advice. Keep it coming! I appreciate the advice and insights and I'm sure there are other readers here who will be paying attention for their own sites as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
      Erin,

      I took a quick look at your web site and couldn't see any compelling reason for someone to hire you. You come across as a generic writer.

      Can you come up with a USP?

      Since that might take some time, in the meanwhile, see if you can come up with an irresistible offer - a real deal that will attract someone who is likely to turn into an ideal client after sampling your ability at low cost.

      Good luck,
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    Erin,

    Here is an example I just came across (I was looking at people's links who'd signed up for my Twitter feed):

    Robert Medak Writing & Editing

    Notice how simple the opening is, and yet the ideas "Let me look at two paragraphs of your copy for free." and "can multitask and meet strenuous deadlines" are compelling.

    Marcia Yudkin
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  • Profile picture of the author EaglePiServ
    Yeah, your website does need a little "oomph", but that will cost you $ and sort of defeats the purpose of your post.

    How about doing some work on a royalty basis only? Send out an email to your current clients, stating you want to beat their current control and you're willing to do it on a royalty basis only. If you beat their control, you'll want $X,XXX or some decent multiple of your current fee. That way you are assuming all the risk of hiring you and you're taking it away from the client. They have nothing to lose and if your offer is compelling enough (i.e. your copy is good in your offer) you should get at least a few nibbles and potentially a client or three. You are putting your money where your mouth is and it's hard, as a business owner, to turn down an offer like that.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
    Thanks for all of the great advice everyone. I'm working more on my site today (and my WSO). There should be some changes soon.

    Thanks also for all of the great examples. Paul, I especially like your WSO!
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  • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
    Okay, I've changed my landing page, my WSO and my signature.

    Better? Worse? Oh my god stop now and go work for Starbucks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Ok. Erin.

    Layout. I'm pushing 40 and I hate all this 10 point type.
    Use 12 - it doesn't cost you anything. 10-13 words per
    line, no more, makes for easy reading. Compare books
    around the house to see for yourself; the only reason to
    use mores word per line is to save paper - so if you aren't
    paying for printing make your pages easy for us lazier
    readers.

    (actually I read a lot and that's the point - because I
    do I appreciate typesetting that makes the job easier).

    Your font is fine.

    Once you beef-up your type and slash your column width
    you'll see a need to split your paragraphs up so they don't
    look like Tolstoy or similar intimidating literature-like writer -
    not what you want because you don't want to cause release
    of fear endorphins and trigger unpleasant memories of
    treacherous thick volumes of convoluted 19th century
    lit assigned in high school.

    Dig?

    Cheap summary: people are lazy and don't want to read
    dense text. We don't want to be challenged, intellectually,
    by people trying to sell us stuff either, so make your stuff
    look friendly to the semi-literate.

    You've actually got some SNAP! in your style and I like that,
    but you've got to learn the formatting shuffle to get people
    to read the stuff.

    Try to find a way to turn you "I" into a "YOU" - which is kind
    of tricky because the temptation is to go into chest-thumping
    about how "You'll get copywriting that literally stuns your
    prospects into opening their wallets and handing over all
    their money like they've been mugged with a Taser-gun,"
    but resist the temptation to be a pompous ass and try to
    show how you can take your clients from point-A (where
    they are, "Suckville") to point-B ("Awesomeville") with you
    systematic, blah-blah, approach to doing 1-2-3 based
    on their criteria...yada-yada.

    You may not get my drift. Just be smart. Sell the jive -
    the sizzle - the excitement of what you bring.

    You know about "peak states" (NLP) - ok? Get in one, and
    write your salesletter with wildcard sincerity and punch -
    because, despite all the techniques of persuasion we talk
    hither and thither about PASSION SELLS! and commitment
    inspires people to want what you got!

    And get that funky letter in front of people who are lookin'
    for what you GOT!!
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  • Profile picture of the author rconejr
    Erin have you tried approaching your local paper? Maybe it's not what you usually do, but you might be able to turn a few quick bucks by freelancing an article or two for your local paper.

    Also, I think the site does lack something. Too much text. Throw in a picture or graphic to break things up a bit and keep people on your site longer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Anita Ashland
      Originally Posted by rconejr View Post

      Erin have you tried approaching your local paper? Maybe it's not what you usually do, but you might be able to turn a few quick bucks by freelancing an article or two for your local paper.
      You could also send a press release about your business to your local paper and maybe offer to write an article about marketing to help position yourself as an expert (this is assuming you're OK with having offline clients).
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  • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
    Thanks for the advice Loren and Rconejr!

    About the font: Believe it or not, it already was at 12 point font--at least according to my post page formatting bar. I bumped it up to 14 just to try it out but now it looks like the whole darn thing is in bold...which drives me nuts, but maybe its better for the reader? I also broke up a couple of paragraphs--is it just me or are people starting to react badly to paragraphs that contain more than a couple of lines?

    (Incidentally I majored in English Lit and Theater in college and if I never read an ancient Greek or anything Shakespeare adjacent again I can honestly say that I won't be sad. Seriously.)

    I've also been thinking about throwing in a graphic--at least a photo--on my front page. I've noticed that people tend to react more favorably if they can "see" the writer they'll be working with.

    I've also been working on turning the "I's" into "You's." Ironically, the hardest part of this whole thing for me isn't a knee jerk chest thumping. It's more of a modesty, not used to going on about myself thing. I can sell other people's products and services six ways from Sunday but when it comes to talking about myself I have this knee jerk "don't be so arrogant" thing happening. Don't worry. As a copywriter, I know exactly how backwards that is

    Seriously though: thanks to everyone for all of their help and encouragement. This thread has been an amazing help for me and helped me make a few new friends, which are both always fun!
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    • Profile picture of the author Collette
      Originally Posted by erinwrites View Post


      ...is it just me or are people starting to react badly to paragraphs that contain more than a couple of lines?
      Reading on the Web is different from reading a printed page. A paragraph of five or six lines on a computer screen can look massive and intimidating, whereas the same paragraph, on a printed page is fine.

      Keeping your paragraphs and sentences short makes them appear more manageable, and keeps the reading momentum going. Large paragraphs do the opposite.

      Originally Posted by erinwrites View Post

      I've also been thinking about throwing in a graphic--at least a photo--on my front page. I've noticed that people tend to react more favorably if they can "see" the writer they'll be working with.
      Doesn't hurt. I'd suggest a different pic from the one in your avatar. That one makes you look like you're about 12. Which may not matter on a forum, where people can "get to know you" from your mature and insightful posts. However, your web site visitors may be "meeting you" for the first time, and first impressions count.

      Originally Posted by erinwrites View Post

      I can sell other people's products and services six ways from Sunday but when it comes to talking about myself I have this knee jerk "don't be so arrogant" thing happening. Don't worry. As a copywriter, I know exactly how backwards that is
      Actually, not all that unusual. Many otherwise very competent service providers are lousy at selling themselves. It helps, as Loren pointed out, to get as passionate about what you offer and how it can help people, as you do about telling people about how your clients' stuff can help them.
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      • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
        Originally Posted by Collette View Post

        Doesn't hurt. I'd suggest a different pic from the one in your avatar. That one makes you look like you're about 12. Which may not matter on a forum, where people can "get to know you" from your mature and insightful posts. However, your web site visitors may be "meeting you" for the first time, and first impressions count.
        Unfortunately there isn't much I can do about looking 12 since that's just how I look and yes, it does freak people out. My wedding photos look like a kid playing dress up.
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        • Profile picture of the author prettyboy
          If you have a good relationship with those you've written for then it would be agood idea to get them to promote you. A lot fo times you've written fro people in the IM niche..they have customers who all need copy, so why not ask your clients to promote you?

          It's free advertising for you and plus the conversion rate should be a lot higher with a recommendation coming from someone else.
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  • Profile picture of the author colmodwyer
    You might want to think about having two websites, one for content writing and one for copywriting.

    There are two reasons for this...

    First, it's just a little confusing the way you jump between the two on your website.

    Second, I think by offering content writing, you're not going to be taken seriously as a copywriter. Credibility issue.

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  • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
    Paul: Thanks It was just taken a couple of months ago, so I figured it might be a better fit.

    Prettyboy: That is an excellent tip!

    Thanks everyone for your help!
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  • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
    I just wanted to post a real, honest to goodness thank you to everyone who tossed in their two cents to this thread. I know I've done the post thanking thing, but I wanted to take a second to tell you guys how much you all have helped me.

    I've redone a lot of my site (including a new design), have new WSOs running and have some irons in the fire now.

    I know that there are a lot of requests for help put up here and sometimes the OP is never heard from again so I wanted to let you all know how much I appreciate and value your input. I'm far from "done" yet, but thanks to you guys I'm super inspired and bringing in more business.

    So... Thanks Everyone! I appreciate it!
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