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Copywriting mentor

by leeannprice
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Hi everyone,

I'm a closet copywriter in training. Looking for a mentor who is a fantastic copywriter and as good a teacher of copywriting.

Anyone on this forum fit that description?

Please pm me. I want to model success - shorten my learning curve - get into business...

Lee Ann
#copywriting #mentor
  • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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    Get your hands on this Lee and you'll be well on you way to achieving success as a copywriter...

    Become An ULTIMATE Copywriter: Master The Critical Skill Of Selling With Words - Here's How...

    I do offer training myself but you just can't go wrong with the above offer.

    Paul Hancox is a top pro copywriter in his own right and one or two here have been trained under his superb guidance.

    Smoking hot,


    Mark Andrews
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason_V
    What Mark said above, I'm currently taking that course from Paul. Once I get through and have enough "chops" to do some paid work, I'm going to take his personal mentoring program.

    I'm very happy with my decision to take this course, but this is something I've been meaning to pursue seriously for years. Don't do what I did and put it off. If you really have a passion and feel a calling to this profession, I think you could do a lot worse than getting this training from Paul.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author KingOfContentMarketing
    Here's a few copywriters that mentor or have mentored. Mentoring comes with a fee--I say that because some people think mentoring is free.

    Coaches/Mentors

    Ray L. Edwards
    Ray L. Edwards Copywriting Coaching and Mentoring Program

    Vin Montello
    The Montello Group

    David Garfinkel
    Fast, Effective Sales Copy with David Garfinkel & Brian McLeod

    Harlan Kilstein
    Harlan Kilstein FREE Six Figure Copy Secrets

    Paul Hancox
    Your Own Profitable Copywriting Service... On A Plate! Here's How...
    Make Me A Copywriter Coaching - Become A Copywriter In As Little As Six Months

    Mike Humphreys
    Secrets of Marketing Your Copy - Flatten Your Copywriting Business Growing Pains To Practically Nil!

    Chris Marlow
    Chris Marlow

    Mark Andrews
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    Marcia Yudkin
    Become a Marketing Consultant Months From Now | Enjoy Freedom, Fulfillment, High Earnings

    Alex Cohen
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    • Profile picture of the author leeannprice
      Hey Joe,

      Thanks for your helpful post. I totally "get it" on paying for mentoring. I'm not looking for something for nothing. I just want to springboard my results by learning from those that are already successful.

      Lee Ann
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      • Profile picture of the author KingOfContentMarketing
        Originally Posted by leeannprice View Post

        Hey Joe,

        Thanks for your helpful post. I totally "get it" on paying for mentoring. I'm not looking for something for nothing. I just want to springboard my results by learning from those that are already successful.

        Lee Ann
        Cool, that was more for others reading your thread. Don't be a stranger. We need more womenfolk around these parts.

        How come I sound like Roy Rogers?
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        • Profile picture of the author leeannprice
          Womenfolk? Well, let me hop off my stagecoach, dust off my petticoat and I'll set for a spell..... :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author deezn
    I've got materials from both Paul Hancox and Ray Edwards/Raydal.

    Both would be great mentors.

    I'm currently doing the yearlong course from Paul linked above. $17/month, 1 new lesson a week. Great stuff. So great I wish I could speed it up and get a new one every other day. But that would be tedious so the pace is good.

    I pointed another lawyer to Paul's presell mastery e-book and she loves it so much, she's asking for links to all of his stuff right way. Paul has a great way of breaking concepts down. They just make so much sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by deezn View Post

      I've got materials from both Paul Hancox and Ray Edwards/Raydal.

      Both would be great mentors.

      I'm currently doing the yearlong course from Paul linked above. $17/month, 1 new lesson a week. Great stuff. So great I wish I could speed it up and get a new one every other day. But that would be tedious so the pace is good.
      Thanks for the mention. I know a lot of members here
      have said great things about Paul's course as well. One
      idea I might have to steal from Paul is the drip feeding
      of lessons. I allow students to work at their own
      pace so they get everything at the same time but
      I think it becomes so overwhelming that they end
      up sabotaging their own progress.

      I offer critiques of all my students sales copy and
      I'm SHOCKED at how many ever present even one
      piece to be critiqued! Shows that most people who
      say they want to learn are not willing to put in the
      work it takes to learn copy.

      -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author LexiB
    On this forum? I have no idea.

    The people who taught me were/are Bob Bly and Frank Kern.

    Dan Kennedy is also very good but I've never learned from him or studied him at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edk
    OK. This isn't someone on this forum but it's a valuable resource. Bit of an understatement. The link is for Drayton Bird's blog. This is a guy must be in his late 70's and still plying his trade. Worked with and much respected by David Ogilvy etc etc etc and if you follow the links you get a copy of Scientific Advertising by Claude Hopkins. Yes a classic work. Enough from me. Do check this out: The Drayton Bird Blog
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  • Profile picture of the author deezn
    I know Drayton Bird did a book for the legal field (someone here was reviewing it). I need to buy it. It's $200 here in the US, used from a shady seller though. And like $600 in the UK (or something).

    How to make direct marketing work for your law firm.

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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Sanchez
    Paul's was one of the first courses I ever took....and to this day, in the top 3 of the best courses I own. It's impel, step-by-step and you can learn at your own pace.

    There's even material covered in the first few modules I've NEVER seen in ANY copywriting course...and I feel like I've taken them all.

    Spent THOUSANDS of dollars on copywriting materials.

    Another not mentioned here is Daniel Levis. You need to get his 5R Web Conversion course first (which is amazing by the way) then he offers a 350 a month email mentoring where you can send in work and he offers a critiques/ guidance.

    I'd start with Paul and then, depending on your time and budget, try out different mentors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Daniel Levis is a super sharp dude.

    Another suggestion...

    If there's a copywriter whose work you really like, drop them a line and ask them if they offer mentoring.

    I know a lot of people who've gotten mentoring with people who don't offer mentoring that way.

    -Daniel

    P.S. Most of the help and advice I receive these days is pro-bono, from friends and contacts who are further along in their careers than I am and who know I'm serious about what I do and work my ass off to deliver results. I also help other people this way.

    So even though it's not formal mentoring, it still helps build your skills and expand your horizons.
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    • Profile picture of the author aidacopy
      Hi Lee Ann,

      I'm a newbie too. I've been doing the mentoring with Paul for the last couple of months, and it's been great. He's knowledgeable, funny, and jumps in to help you when you're stuck. He genuinely enjoys teaching.

      I highly recommend him!

      Aida
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  • Profile picture of the author BizManRobert
    Originally Posted by leeannprice View Post

    Hi everyone,

    I'm a closet copywriter in training. Looking for a mentor who is a fantastic copywriter and as good a teacher of copywriting.

    Anyone on this forum fit that description?

    Please pm me. I want to model success - shorten my learning curve - get into business...

    Lee Ann
    Hey leeannprice

    I don't know a copywriter mentor here at WF...
    However, after reading through seventeen posts - i can't believe no one mentioned the famous Mr Prince of PRINT...Yes the one and only...GARY HALBERT.

    I have heaps of the late Gary Halberts materials, he was my mentor, sadly much missed.

    Anyway...YOU can study a lot of his stuff for FREE..!

    Here's the link buddy...

    Code:
    http://www.thegaryhalbertletter.com/newsletter-archives.htm
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
      Originally Posted by BizManRobert View Post


      I don't know a copywriter mentor here at WF...
      However, after reading through seventeen posts - i can't believe no one mentioned the famous Mr Prince of PRINT...Yes the one and only...GARY HALBERT.
      Mentors give advice and guidance on a personal basis. A mentor is somebody you can talk to and get answers to your questions from.

      In other words, it's relationship based.

      Believe it now?

      Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author BizManRobert
        Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

        Mentors give advice and guidance on a personal basis. A mentor is somebody you can talk to and get answers to your questions from.

        In other words, it's relationship based.

        Believe it now?

        Alex

        Alex - off course I know mentoring is relationship based!

        I was just sharing with the OP my own mentor the late Gary Halbert, and passing on an EXCELLENT resource in the form of a FREE website, that should anyone take the time to visit the site and download and study the materials, do as Gary instructs in those materials, would become a competent successful copywriter.
        We all learn differently, Not everyone needs a personal mentor.
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        • Profile picture of the author MontelloMarketing
          Robert,

          You were personally mentored by Gary? I think everyone here would love to hear some stories about that.

          Originally Posted by BizManRobert View Post

          Alex - off course I know mentoring is relationship based!

          I was just sharing with the OP my own mentor the late Gary Halbert, and passing on an EXCELLENT resource in the form of a FREE website, that should anyone take the time to visit the site and download and study the materials, do as Gary instructs in those materials, would become a competent successful copywriter.
          We all learn differently, Not everyone needs a personal mentor.
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          • Profile picture of the author BizManRobert
            Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing View Post

            Robert,

            You were personally mentored by Gary? I think everyone here would love to hear some stories about that.
            MontelloMarketing - I wish I had been mentored by GARY personally..that would of been FANTASTIC!

            However, after studying his materials, in the early days i downloaded all his sales letters and printed them out, and read them repeatedly, in addition to writing some of them out in my own hand writing. This in itself was mentoring for me. Over the years i bought many mp3's and courses by Gary that were being sold second hand.

            Even today i keep up with studying with the likes of Jay Abraham & Dan Kennedy, but at the end of the day, i always find myself going over and over Gary's stuff, lets face it he was a born GENIUS, and sadly much missed.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
          Originally Posted by BizManRobert View Post

          Alex - off course I know mentoring is relationship based!

          I was just sharing with the OP my own mentor the late Gary Halbert, and passing on an EXCELLENT resource in the form of a FREE website, that should anyone take the time to visit the site and download and study the materials, do as Gary instructs in those materials, would become a competent successful copywriter.
          We all learn differently, Not everyone needs a personal mentor.
          The OP asked for help to find a mentor.

          Alex
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          • Profile picture of the author leeannprice
            I'm cool with people referring to people they've learned from as their mentors. The late, great Napoleon Hill had a private mastermind of mentors of people who had all passed on long before him...

            If they left a legacy in print, we can still learn from people who've gone before us...

            Thanks for all the great suggestions...

            Lee Ann
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            • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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              Originally Posted by leeannprice View Post

              I'm cool with people referring to people they've learned from as their mentors. The late, great Napoleon Hill had a private mastermind of mentors of people who had all passed on long before him...

              If they left a legacy in print, we can still learn from people who've gone before us...

              Thanks for all the great suggestions...

              Lee Ann
              Hi Lee Ann:

              You can take this advice as a grain of salt if you want, but, if I was you I would do this to the letter like I am in the military. "Do exactly as I say as I say it" approach. Start Here with this specific article: The Gary Halbert Letter

              All the best on whatever you decide.
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              • Profile picture of the author verial
                Originally Posted by theory expert View Post

                Hi Lee Ann:

                You can take this advice as a grain of salt if you want, but, if I was you I would do this to the letter like I am in the military. "Do exactly as I say as I say it" approach. Start Here with this specific article: The Gary Halbert Letter

                All the best on whatever you decide.
                The term "grain of salt" comes from the phrase "with a grain of salt," which means to take the accompanying thing less seriously.

                E.g., "Take his suggestions with a grain of salt." (I.e., his suggestions are to be treated with skepticism.)
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                  Originally Posted by verial View Post

                  The term "grain of salt" comes from the phrase "with a grain of salt," which means to take the accompanying thing less seriously.

                  E.g., "Take his suggestions with a grain of salt." (I.e., his suggestions are to be treated with skepticism.)
                  Free english lessons. I could use those. Leave me your IM chat ID so I can contact you for further study.
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  • Profile picture of the author MontelloMarketing
    Robert,

    I think Alex's point was that you were not personally mentored by Halbert. You followed him and his teachings and were inspired by them. That is not personal interaction, which mentoring is all about.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecoverartist
    This isn't a mentor so much as it is a way to learn copywriting by people who mentor others. I highly recommend the AWAI course (Michael Masterson's Six Figure Copywriting). I think they have a web-based version now so you don't have to have all the big binders shipped to you. One caveat though - they LOVE to sell to you. And they're not bad at it. After all, they're copywriters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    Mark,
    Thanks for the information. I signed up for Paul's course and I think it's going to be very helpful!

    Rose
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    I would suggest reading as much material as possible from Dan Kennedy, He may be the king of all copy writing. Follow him, get on his list, read his blog as often as possible!
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