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Hi all,

I wanted to tell you about my opinion on the wpmage program for auto blogging via wordpress, using ebay, overstock, amazon and adsense to monetize the sites. I mentioned it in another thread and there were some questions and I didn't want to confuse the issue or hijack the thread so hopefully I'll be able to answer the questions here.

I started wpmage as a beta tester for Greg Jacobs, the creator of the system. I met him right here on the WF and quickly discovered he is a straight-up guy. I've tried other auto blogging programs without success so I thought 'what the heck?', it could be good. I'm glad I did.

First of all, the WPmage system is a program that offers 3 wordpress plugins that work together to create a powerful system of pulling content from article directories and yahoo and product from amazon, ebay and overstock. If you like adsense you can also use that. I primarily use ebay so my review will focus on that.

The plugins:
As I said, there are three: affiliate mage, content mage and posting mage. These can be added to any wordpress site, or used with the autoblogging function of wpmage to create brand new sites.

The affiliate mage and content mage can be used manual operation --- i.e., you can manually input the code in any post to monetize as mentioned above. However, the posting mage plugin is the brains that automate the system; it works with the other two plugins to create what I think is an awesome platform for autoblogging and for monetizing your blogs.

CPmage - The autoblogging feature:
CP stands for "control panel" and that's what this part of the software does. It becomes the control panel for installing a multitude of sites. You can update the sites, delete them ... whatever, from the control panel.

The ability to create blogs quickly is what a lot of people like although that is not why I love the program. With CPmage you can install a wordpress blog, with complete monetization and content ... thousands of posts if you want to ... within minutes. It is like having wp-o-matic and caffienated content on steriods with a lot more control over what you're doing. Whiz bang and its done. (No, it isn't at all like these two programs. I just mention them because that's what I was using prior to getting the wpmage system.)

All of the plugins are installed and activated ... not just the mage-related plugins, but plugins that are required for seo, spam control, social bookmarking, etc. You do not have to install a single plugin.

WPmage - The autobuilding feature:
If you don't want to use the steriods ... there's a program for you, too (my favorite). It also creates the wordpress site almost instantly, installing all the plugins just as mentioned above. The only difference in this and the CPmage is that you install the mage program on a site-by-site basis. Other than that it has the same power as the CPmage.

Greg refers to the above systems: manual, cpmage and wpmage as "paths". When you purchase the mage system you are given the option to choose any of the above paths to creating your own system. You are not locked into any one path ... you can choose any or all. It is a flexible program.

Oh, and another thing ... you can install the mage system on as many domains as you want to ... no limits whatsoever.

Now, to answer the questions raised in the other thread:

I have built 30 "mage" sites since I started in August of this year. The first month I had an income of around $150 from the sites -- I don't really count this as my first month because I was busy building sites and didn't expect any income at all. (Greg says it takes about 4 weeks to start seeing income). In September the income had increased to $350 and this month I have already made $600+. From the way my eBay report looks I should pass $1000 by month's end.

And, one thing I should tell you here (not for sympathy, but to just let you know how impressive this is), I was diagnosed with breast cancer in October and have had surgery. I've had little time to build or work on sites. The October income has been totally passive.

Another question that was asked was about the seo -- If you build your site with either the cpmage or wpmage automatic program, the site will have all the plugins installed and enabled to SEO your site.

Also .. regarding content: you don't have to create any content if you don't want to. The program pulls content from article sites and yahoo. I do because I write and like to create. It takes me a lot longer to build sites, too. So, I don't advise doing that unless you can wait to start earning money. There are other beta testers who have made a lot more money than I have and they do it just like Greg says to do it.

Well, that's my review of the wpmage system. No affiliation at all ... just a review from a satisfied customer.

Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author JackLypka
    Congrats, Linda. Excellent story and very well-written review. I've signed up for the WP Mage and look forward to seeing what it offers.

    Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author JBanis
    Thanks Linda, thats great. I will give it a go too.

    I got a little confused about the difference between WPmage and CPmage. Is the main difference that with WPmage you add your own content? So its less automatic?

    Also, I asked the helpdesk there and the issue I have is that I like the possibility of selling my blog later. Thats not possible yet, but perhaps in the future. How long does it take you to find a niche and build a site from scratch?

    Thanks for your review. Looks promising. And also...sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I wish you all the best with that.

    Jan
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by JBanis View Post

      Thanks Linda, thats great. I will give it a go too.

      I got a little confused about the difference between WPmage and CPmage. Is the main difference that with WPmage you add your own content? So its less automatic?
      Hi Jan,

      CP mage is a control panel you install on a domain. After you install it and input all your affiliate info, you are able to install the mage system on multiple domains. It automatically installs wordpress with multiple useful plugins and, of course, all of the mage plugins. When the install process is complete you have a site set up and ready to go. You don't really have to do anything else to it. Then, you can just go back to the CPmage and install another and another and another.

      WP mage automatically installs wordpress with multiple useful plugins and, of course, all of the mage plugins on ONE domain only. The finished result is exactly like whiat CPmage does but it is for one domain.

      For example, say I install cpmage on Domain-a.com. After that install is successful, I login into the cpmage site on Domain-a.com and install the wpmage system on domian-b.com, domain-c.com and domain-d.com -- all from within the Domain-a.com's CPmage program.

      If, on the other hand I install WPmage on Domain-a.com I will have wpmage installed only on that domain. I cannot install it on the other three domains from the same program. I have simply installed wordpress on "mage steriods" on one domain.

      Using CPmage I can install wordpress on "mage steriods" to many domains.

      How long does it take you to find a niche and build a site from scratch?
      You can actually build a site in minutes and populate it with thousands of articles/products ... but, that's not what I do. I guess it's a blessing/curse of my personality to do things the hard way. I sometimes take two or three days to build a site out to the point that I can walk away from it and start another. Then I always go back and tweak later. I always customize my themes and always put unique content on the front end. You don't have to do that -- it's just my way. There are others who started when I did who are making a lot more money than me ... just doing what Greg says to do.

      As for finding the niche ... that's the easy part. eBay has done all the homework on that ... you just tap into their categories and you have thousands of profitable niches. Even if you use Adsense, Overstock or Amazon, you can still use the niche info you'll find freely available on eBay.

      Does that help? Please let me know if I can answer any more questions. There's a lot to the mage system and it is not for everyone ... I'm just glad I found it.

      Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I'm using the full mage system from the pre-launch, like Linda.

    For me, I'm not spending much time at all finding niches. Since it takes only a matter of minutes to put up a fully loaded site with the full mage system, why should I spend hours choosing between niches? I may as well spend those hours and put up dozens of sites... one for EACH niche. Maybe I'm lazy, but I think that's the intent and beauty of the mage system.

    I'm spreading my niches all over the place, all kinds of different products and topics. I think it's fun! SO much less stress.
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Unfortunately, the majority of the tools aren't available right now and it's unclear what the price tag will be on them. While the techniques described are good they're almost identical to what I already do. What I was looking for from this system were the automation tools and they aren't available. So, I'm somewhat disappointed with it at this point. Greg says that he'll have the tools available after November 5 so we'll see at that time.

      If you're new to niche site marketing, WP Mage is a pretty good method to follow, especially for eBay EPN, Amazon and other product affiliate sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author perswealth
        Hello Linda,

        What is the website address for wpmage so i can get more information? Sounds interesting
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        • Profile picture of the author michaelmac
          Originally Posted by perswealth View Post

          Hello Linda,

          What is the website address for wpmage so i can get more information? Sounds interesting
          Hi perswealth,

          You'll find information and a free download at:

          http://www.wpmage.com/somethingdifferent/

          HTH's Ya!

          Michael
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          • Originally Posted by michaelmac View Post

            Hi perswealth,

            You'll find information and a free download at:

            WORDPRESS MAGE

            HTH's Ya!

            Michael
            Is this product still available? I go to the "buy" button and there is no price, no place to even sign up for it.
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            • Profile picture of the author twinmom
              Originally Posted by selfmademillionaire View Post

              Is this product still available? I go to the "buy" button and there is no price, no place to even sign up for it.
              I don't believe it's for sale at the moment. Go to WORDPRESS MAGE (not my affiliate link - goes straight to Greg's page) and I'm sure he will send updates if it is for sale again in the future.

              Tracy
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      • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
        Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

        Unfortunately, the majority of the tools aren't available right now and it's unclear what the price tag will be on them. While the techniques described are good they're almost identical to what I already do. What I was looking for from this system were the automation tools and they aren't available. So, I'm somewhat disappointed with it at this point. Greg says that he'll have the tools available after November 5 so we'll see at that time.

        If you're new to niche site marketing, WP Mage is a pretty good method to follow, especially for eBay EPN, Amazon and other product affiliate sites.
        Well, as Greg says, this is not for everyone.

        However, I don't think you have to be new to niche marketing for this to be a good product for you. I am certainly not a newbie ... started IM marketing in 1996. I've been fairly successful but I've never really had a way to make passive income.

        That's why I was interested in the mage system. I've tried other programs that promised a way to create passive affiliate income but for whatever reason these didn't work for me. I can't see the future, and don't know how it will be tomorrow ... or next year ... but I can truly say this is the only affiliate income system I have ever tried that I earned from right out of the starting gate. If I gauge my finishing on my starting ... and if all things remain the same ... I will be making a substantial affiliate income this time next year.

        Sure, there's a little work required to put it into action ... and there's some work to keeping it going ... but it's the most passive affiliate income I've made to date in such a short time span so I'm sold on it ... and at age 65 with almost 13 years of IM under my belt that was a pretty hard sale .

        Nov. 5 isn't very far off ... Greg has said he wants only satisfied customers ... and he's happy to guarantee satisfaction so if you really want to try it out you'll not find an easier marketer to work with. That young man exudes integrity.

        Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author teodoras35
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      I'm using the full mage system from the pre-launch, like Linda.

      For me, I'm not spending much time at all finding niches. Since it takes only a matter of minutes to put up a fully loaded site with the full mage system, why should I spend hours choosing between niches? I may as well spend those hours and put up dozens of sites... one for EACH niche. Maybe I'm lazy, but I think that's the intent and beauty of the mage system.

      I'm spreading my niches all over the place, all kinds of different products and topics. I think it's fun! SO much less stress.
      Hi I have read your post about WP Mage , what can you tell me about your experience of using it.Thank you for your time .I want to know more about it before i will jump in .Please help me with your advice.Thanks.Ted.
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  • Profile picture of the author LIndaB
    I'm wondering how much of the income potential is dependent on Ebay. The reason I ask is that right now it seems to be extremely hard to get accepted by them. Not sure why. I've never had any problem getting accepted by any other affiliate program, including CPA programs. Can as much be earned from Amazon and Overstock?
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      I too, had the privilege of being one of Greg's beta testers. Linda covered everything very nicely, but I just wanted to chime in as another that is having wonderful success with WPMage.

      It's surprisingly simple, but so powerful. Of the methods that Linda mentioned, I use CPMage to set up all of my sites. It's all pre-configured and after a few clicks, my site is set up. I do some tweaking to the site that same evening, and other than going back in to browse stats, that site is done. Unless I want to change something, there's no more work to that site.

      I will mention that not all sites are winners. I have a few that haven't made much money, but for the amount of time that I spent putting the site up, it's really no big deal.

      I have also been trying out the Mage system with some variations of what Greg teaches, and am finding success that way too, so it's certainly not limited in use.

      Tracy
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
        I too, had the privilege of being one of Greg's beta testers. Linda covered everything very nicely, but I just wanted to chime in as another that is having wonderful success with WPMage.

        It's surprisingly simple, but so powerful. Of the methods that Linda mentioned, I use CPMage to set up all of my sites. It's all pre-configured and after a few clicks, my site is set up. I do some tweaking to the site that same evening, and other than going back in to browse stats, that site is done. Unless I want to change something, there's no more work to that site.

        I will mention that not all sites are winners. I have a few that haven't made much money, but for the amount of time that I spent putting the site up, it's really no big deal.

        I have also been trying out the Mage system with some variations of what Greg teaches, and am finding success that way too, so it's certainly not limited in use.

        Tracy
        Can anyone using the Mage system give us an idea of the stats they are having with the system? Obviously the numbers will vary depending on the niche but, for example:

        How many of the posts, on average, are being indexed by search engines per day?

        Where is the traffic coming from? YouTube, other sites or blogs, Google, Yahoo, MSM searches, etc.

        How many hits are they getting a day on average and if it´s increasing by what percentage?

        Are they getting any spam in their email that´s attached to the account?

        Is anyone adding an opt in option on their homepage and building a list? Is it converting?

        How much time does it take for you to build your average site?

        How many keyword or long-tail keyword phrases is the program mining from your seed keyword on your average site?

        What´s the most time-consuming step in the process of building a mage site and how long does that take?

        Can anyone PM me with a link to one of the Mage sites they built so I can look at ot as a customer would? That would be so much better than watching a video

        Some real numbers would be greatly appreciated from anyone using this program. It looks like a fantastic deal but any hard facts from someone actually using it would ease my mind before spending the money to get one.

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
          Originally Posted by Frank Tocco View Post

          Can anyone using the Mage system give us an idea of the stats they are having with the system? Obviously the numbers will vary depending on the niche but, for example:

          How many of the posts, on average, are being indexed by search engines per day?

          Where is the traffic coming from? YouTube, other sites or blogs, Google, Yahoo, MSM searches, etc.

          How many hits are they getting a day on average and if it´s increasing by what percentage?

          Are they getting any spam in their email that´s attached to the account?

          Is anyone adding an opt in option on their homepage and building a list? Is it converting?

          How much time does it take for you to build your average site?

          How many keyword or long-tail keyword phrases is the program mining from your seed keyword on your average site?

          What´s the most time-consuming step in the process of building a mage site and how long does that take?

          Can anyone PM me with a link to one of the Mage sites they built so I can look at ot as a customer would? That would be so much better than watching a video

          Some real numbers would be greatly appreciated from anyone using this program. It looks like a fantastic deal but any hard facts from someone actually using it would ease my mind before spending the money to get one.

          Thanks
          Hi Frank,

          Do you really live in Cancun ... I am green! It is getting cold where I live.

          I can't answer all of your questions ... but, here's a few. Maybe Greg will pop back in soon.

          --- Traffic comes from the search engines and back links (we purchase expired domains)
          --- hits? you mean visitors, I think. It depends on the quality of the domain name you have purchased. I have some that hit the road with 100 visitors a day and some that start of with as few as 10 vpd. As you keep adding posts your traffic continues to climb. Sorry I don't do percentages.... I just look at my income .
          --- I haven't noticed any more spam than a blog normally gets with my maged sites. We use Akismet. You are free to add any other spam control plugins you'd like to add.
          --- I haven't added an optin list; others have talked about it on the forum. Yes, I know I am probably leaving money on the table .
          --- I am slow, so I'm probably not the best person to answer your "how much time" question. I focus on quality, not quantity. You can actually put a site up in minutes (after you know what to do).
          --- keywords ... EVERY niche is different, so you can't really give an average.
          ---the most time consuming process is listening to the videos and reading the pdf files ... i.e., laying the foundation of knowledge. BUT if you will do that, then the rest is a piece of cake ... a lot of people want to jump in and start building sites without the slightest understanding of the mage system. Some don't even know what a wordpress blog is ... and they want to be a success today.
          --- send Greg an email. He will share URL with you.
          --- I started this thread with real numbers. When I started the thread I had nothing to gain ... no affiliate link, nothing. I just happen to love the mage. I kept getting pm's from people asking my affiliate link (a lot of people have joined the mage because of this thread) so I finally asked Greg if we have an affiliate program that I could join. I joined it this week. I have made no money from this ... I have given you unbiased fact. I know my figures are not all that great when compared to the big IM marketers ... but I'm very happy with the return!

          Okay ... that's the best I can do.

          Hope it helps a little.

          Linda
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
            Hi Frank,

            Do you really live in Cancun ... I am green! It is getting cold where I live.

            I can't answer all of your questions ... but, here's a few. Maybe Greg will pop back in soon.
            Thanks Linda,
            Your post is very helpful and yes, I really live in Cancun.

            Watched all the videos and read the entire PDF that Greg put out and emailed him and he answered all my questions promptly and professionally which I found impressive.

            If anyone here can PM me a link to one of their live sites mad with the Mage so I could browse it ( maybe even buy something) I´de really appreciate it.

            I´m glad you´re seeing good results with the program.
            Thanks again.
            Talk soon,
            Frank
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            • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
              Hello.
              I am this |..| close to ordering.
              My wife is this |...| close.

              Can someone also PM me a link to one or two of their mage sites?

              This would be of great help in making my decision.

              I also want to thank everyone for contributing to this thread.

              Thanks for any assistance...
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      Originally Posted by LIndaB View Post

      I'm wondering how much of the income potential is dependent on Ebay. The reason I ask is that right now it seems to be extremely hard to get accepted by them. Not sure why. I've never had any problem getting accepted by any other affiliate program, including CPA programs. Can as much be earned from Amazon and Overstock?
      Linda,
      I didn't get approved by Overstock, so can't speak for that option, but most of my income does come from EPN. Right now, I've only done a small amount on Amazon, and my Adsense runs about 20% of my EPN.

      Included in Greg's info is a PDF with information about what EPN looks for. I had been denied a couple of times. After I got into the beta, I tried again using Greg's information, and I did get accepted.

      HTH,
      Tracy
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      • Profile picture of the author admiral
        thanks linda for the review.
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        • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
          Originally Posted by admiral View Post

          thanks linda for the review.
          You're very welcome!
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          • Profile picture of the author RisingPhoenix
            Thanks Linda for your excellent feedback on Greg's system. It is very honest and helpful.

            I wanted to know though, how do you get traffic?

            I can't wrap my mind around it. You post all these blog comments and then just wait for traffic to come. Is it all about buying those aged domains that Greg is talking about.

            I know your extremely busy, but I'd really like to know how you get your traffic.
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            • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
              Originally Posted by RisingPhoenix View Post

              Thanks Linda for your excellent feedback on Greg's system. It is very honest and helpful.

              I wanted to know though, how do you get traffic?

              I can't wrap my mind around it. You post all these blog comments and then just wait for traffic to come. Is it all about buying those aged domains that Greg is talking about.

              I know your extremely busy, but I'd really like to know how you get your traffic.
              Hi RisingPhoenix,

              Thanks for your kind words.

              You don't really post blog comments ... just posts and products. You get almost immediate traffic because of the aged domains. You should purchase domains that have backlinks and, if possible, good PR. I like to buy older domains because they seem to have more authority. If you have 3000 blog posts indexed you will get natural, organic traffic. It just happens.

              Does that help?

              Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by LIndaB View Post

      I'm wondering how much of the income potential is dependent on Ebay. The reason I ask is that right now it seems to be extremely hard to get accepted by them. Not sure why. I've never had any problem getting accepted by any other affiliate program, including CPA programs. Can as much be earned from Amazon and Overstock?
      Linda, I am only doing eBay at this point. I understand some have had a hard time getting into the eBay system ... but it is not impossible so I'd say, bang away at their door.

      Greg has an excellent free ebook on how to get accepted in ebay. You can get it here: http://www.wpmage.com/EPNApproval.pdf

      Good luck,

      Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author dschoen
      Originally Posted by LIndaB View Post

      I'm wondering how much of the income potential is dependent on Ebay. The reason I ask is that right now it seems to be extremely hard to get accepted by them. Not sure why. I've never had any problem getting accepted by any other affiliate program, including CPA programs. Can as much be earned from Amazon and Overstock?
      This is the big problem with the Mage, don't get me wrong it is an excellent took, it builds site fast, puts in videos, articles, photos, product pics. You fill in your id's product and info are pulled, and you just collect the checks.

      I had a 5 year old site with tons of content, like over 100 pages, but got rejected by Overstock and ebay. Greg has a neat little pdf, how to prepare your site for acceptance, which I folowed to a T. They said in the Mage forum that you have to have some kind of cj.com sales record to be approved by Overstock.

      Wehn I was in the mage forum, it seemed like most people that were making great money and I mean great money, all were approved by ebay. Most said to just go with cj, Amazon and clickbank. But the ones I talked to in the forums weren't doing to good with those, they were making money, but not what that system can put out with Overstock and ebay.

      I know it is kind of confusing at first, but when you get into it, it really not that hard to get it up and going. I just didn't see the potential and was bummed getting rejected by ebay and overstock. Greg was really good on refunding, I don't refund at all but it was too much money in this case, if you are approved by ebay and overstock, the others like cj, Amazon, and clickbank of course is no big deal, but if you can get approved or are approved this is the best system out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelmac
    Hi Linda, PM sent to you.

    Thanks,

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I'm using it and that is exactly correct. You just simply wait. No further promotion or SEO is needed. Greg says he's never built a backlink in his life. I think the trick is because my posts target such obscure longtails, that traffic is bound to come.
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  • Profile picture of the author dubhlinn
    looks really good.
    I know if you live in Rhode Island USA, I cannot be an affiliate with amazon. Is this the case with the other programs e-bay etc?
    Congrats to you Linda hope you make plenty adn the other testers.

    Ps Does anybody know the final price being offered to warriors ? Is it $995 or 400 of this price?
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by dubhlinn View Post

      looks really good.
      I know if you live in Rhode Island USA, I cannot be an affiliate with amazon. Is this the case with the other programs e-bay etc?
      Congrats to you Linda hope you make plenty adn the other testers.

      Ps Does anybody know the final price being offered to warriors ? Is it $995 or 400 of this price?
      Hi dubhlinn ...

      Thanks for the congrats. I'm working on that "plenty" part!

      I honestly don't know what programs would be available in your area. If I were you I'd check it out first before making any kind of purchase.

      I'm not sure of the price, either. Haven't had a chance to look at the sales page.

      Good luck!

      Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author cowboyrob
    I believe it's $400 off that price. I'm looking at the final page right before I click pay right now, and with the warrior coupon, it's $597.00.

    I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by cowboyrob View Post

      I believe it's $400 off that price. I'm looking at the final page right before I click pay right now, and with the warrior coupon, it's $597.00.

      I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.
      Hi cowboyrob ... are you the one who called me?

      It is a lot of money and it's something only you can decide. You could try it out. Greg does have a great guarantee.

      Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
      Originally Posted by cowboyrob View Post

      I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.
      No, it's not a good deal. You can use the same pattern of niche site building for free and you can buy automation tools that cost about 1/4 of that price.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
        Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

        No, it's not a good deal. You can use the same pattern of niche site building for free and you can buy automation tools that cost about 1/4 of that price.
        Hello Sir

        I wanted to say that I %100 respect your opinion, but I just need to provide some information so that people have the correct Facts to complete their investigation on this product. As it is not for everybody, but some will find it useful based on what is offered.

        So these are the facts:

        Like you said, you can use the same Mage Blueprint System for free.

        In fact we do the Blueprint as a giveaway. It is similar to other systems, except it takes a few very DIFFERENT approaches. But no matter. It is a free giveaway that you have already read, so its out there and do as you will with it.

        Re: "Automation tools at 1/4 the price" ... I have actually used most of these "automation tools at 1/4 the price" and there are actually quite a bit of free automation tools on the market. (WP-o-Matic to name one)

        Also many of our current Mages have used and purchased most of these tools as well. Well the fact is that these "tools" work, but you also get what you pay for.

        Meaning that they can in theory do a similar thing. But what you are getting is a piecework process where you are essentially gluing together 10 different processes to replicate a similar effect as to what the Mage does in a single click. and then you still do not know.

        The fact is that there is NOTHING like the Mage on the market. I know because Automation is my life and I try everything and actually built the MAGE, not to sell, but for my own useage.

        If there was a combo of tools (even using SSH and CLI) that did it with this ease, then I would have used them and never developed the MAGE.

        So the fact is that you are correct, yes you can in theory piece together a similar process. However in practice, I just prefer to click a button and have a website ....though to each his own.

        Respectfully
        -Greg Jacobs
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        • Profile picture of the author twinmom
          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

          . Well the fact is that these "tools" work, but you also get what you pay for.
          What I like about the Mage system is that I can set up a complete, ready to go site in less than an hour. And it's set for life basically, unless I want to go back and add more posts later. Now, if this site "flops" and doesn't make but a few dollars a month, okay no problem - it was just an hour.

          However, the really interesting thing that I find about my Mage sites is that "they work". I have some sites that I actually built with the Mage, and then added on some other autoblogging tools (WPRobot,UAW,WPOM,etc) just to experiment. Those sites don't do nearly as well as pure Mage sites.

          It's really had to wrap your mind around how the entire system works until you have tried it out.

          At the moment, I'm actually testing out several different ideas with the Mage and the more I use it, the more potential I see. Even after using it for 3 months, I continue to be amazed.
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        • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

          So the fact is that you are correct, yes you can in theory piece together a similar process. However in practice, I just prefer to click a button and have a website ....though to each his own.
          Sorry Greg but IMO the extremely high price for your tools isn't worth it to me based on the opportunity cost. I think you've priced yourself out of the market beyond selling to people who haven't taken the time to review their options and do a cost analysis, who lack a lot in the technical department and/or who're new and need a lot of hand holding. If that's your market, that's great, I'm sure you'll do quite well with that.
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          • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
            Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

            Sorry Greg but IMO the extremely high price for your tools isn't worth it to me based on the opportunity cost. I think you've priced yourself out of the market beyond selling to people who haven't taken the time to review their options and do a cost analysis, who lack a lot in the technical department and/or who're new and need a lot of hand holding. If that's your market, that's great, I'm sure you'll do quite well with that.
            say all you like about me, the Mage or my prices, but please leave our userbase out of this. I will say you are %100 mistaken and have NO IDEA what you are talking about. And if you found out who some of our users are, you would probably swallow your tounge to think that you just said that about them.

            Until you actually use our product or can move beyond the realm of speculation, then please leave it be, you have said your piece and it has been noted and I hope we can leave it at that.

            On a more friendly note.

            . You will be surprised some of the users that we do have. I have a few guys who I would say are much more advanced at automation and development than myself and they find this useful and even amazing at times.

            I have one user who already makes over 100k a year setting up automated sites and he is switching all his new sites over to the Mage Platform because it saves him time.

            I have other users who don't even know how to FTP and we get them started with the Point and Click Generation and they earn.

            I am going to try to stay out of this thread now, unless there is compelling reason to come back. So I hope we can leave it at that.

            Respectfully
            -Greg
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            • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
              Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

              Also I know for a fact you have never used our complete system, so we can take partially what you say as speculation.
              It is true that I am speculating but, then again, business cost analysis (aka speculating) has been part of my work for quite a number of years. As such, I tend to look at IM products with a lot more critical eye than most people do.

              I'm not saying your product is bad and I could see it being a good fit for some people. I think your basic niche site building plan is good. I just think that you're way overpriced for the WP automation tool market and I don't see the extra value to justify the considerable extra cost.
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              • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

                It is true that I am speculating but, then again, business cost analysis (aka speculating) has been part of my work for quite a number of years. As such, I tend to look at IM products with a lot more critical eye than most people do.

                I'm not saying your product is bad and I could see it being a good fit for some people. I think your basic niche site building plan is good. I just think that you're way overpriced for the WP automation tool market and I don't see the extra value to justify the considerable extra cost.
                Probably the root of our disagreement is that this is not a "WP Automation Tool"

                How many people have used "WP Automation Tools" and never earned any significant $$. Probably many. I have used all these too and have earned some, but never enough to call it a fully earning system

                The reason is that they are all piecework. It is difficult and long to bind various systems together. And there is no solid core to push people towards.

                To make the money using the Blueprint you need the following things
                • Fast Site Creation and Configuration
                • Targeted Unique Content creation
                • Tageted Affiliate listings
                • Content and Affiliate listings need to be mashed up on the same page and relvent
                • Massive creation of posts based on the above stipulations
                • SEO Optimized and non-footprinted layouts.
                Like Brian above, I used to do this manually. I had a desktop full of patchwork scripts I would actually generate text files in Linux and do SQL imports and actually did quite well. But it was ALOT of work.

                What we have done is esentially taken the knowledge of how these systems work and put them together into a singular plug and play system. And it works! It really really works

                Yes in theory you can do it all on your own... but it depends how you value your time.

                Regarding the investment. Well, its not a $20 script. I agree with you on that front. It just comes down to being able to see the value in the Mage and do a Cost-Benefit-Analysis on whether you can save more time by using the turnkey system than you will by doing it on your own.

                This can only be determined based on how you value your own time and the weight of benefit you can get from using the Mage

                I can tell you that despite being about to create these sites through Linux, I use the Mage now for all my own sites.

                Why?
                Because my time is valuable and I know the forumla that earns and I prefer to earn rather than tinker.

                So you can see, I am not really in disagreement with you, but I would recommend to stop thinking about the Mage as a "WP Automation Plugin" but more as a complete system and coursework for earning an income online. (that just happens to be based on wordpress)

                hope that explanation puts us in alignment.

                Respectfully
                -Greg
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                • Profile picture of the author Freeon
                  Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
                  That would be my first reason not to try it.
                  And do you have to keep paying monthly after creating your site?
                  That would be my second reason...
                  I'm not trying to bash the thread but...
                  I like to own what I create.
                  I hate a monkey on my back feeling.
                  IMHO
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                  • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                    Originally Posted by Freeon View Post

                    Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
                    Unless you implement significant measures, you need the plugins to keep the site running, so selling a site would for the most part require the person you are selling to having a copy of Mage. (since you cant give them your license) makes sense?

                    Originally Posted by Freeon View Post

                    And do you have to keep paying monthly after creating your site?
                    That would be my second reason...
                    No way. You pay once for the software and you are finished, done. You can install unlimited domains on unlimited servers as long as they are all owned by you.

                    The software is yours %100.

                    the monthly fee is for a basic service and trial, that you get %100 included when you get the full system

                    Basicly, Once you invest in the Full Master Mage, you never pay anything to us ever again and have lifetime usage.



                    hope that answers your questions
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                    • Profile picture of the author clarencechew
                      Hi Greg,

                      Can we use sub-domain to setup for all mage sites ??

                      Clarence
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                  • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
                    Originally Posted by Freeon View Post

                    Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
                    That would be my first reason not to try it.
                    Hi Freeon,

                    I'm glad Greg has joined our thread and is giving the *official* answer to a lot of the questions. (Thank you, Greg!)

                    From a user standpoint, I totally understand your feelings. When I first tried Greg's domain tool that he gave away to war room members my intention was to buy $5 expired domains, build sites and sell them. Greg said (in a thread on that forum) that I would make more money putting affiliate links such as the ePN on the sites.

                    Well, I had tried affiliate marketing and never really made any money but his post inspired me to give it a focused try. I didn't know he was going to offer the mage program so I purchased another program and built a couple of ebay stores. Unfortunately, I didn't make any money ... not one cent with the. It's not a bad product ... it looks nice and is easy to use ... but it didn't generate any income for me.

                    I was on the verge of selling the sites when Greg asked me to beta test his mage system. What did I have to lose? I asked myself. I quickly put up a few new sites on expired domains and watched in amazement as I started getting sales. What a difference! The other sites built with the other program just sat there looking pretty but the new sites started making money right out of the box (so to speak). I quickly realized I could make a lot more money keeping the sites than selling them.

                    So, while I certainly understand your statement I can say with absolute assurance ... you will make more money keeping the sites using the mage system. I love to create sites ... I do it for people as part of my business model. I may never stop doing that but one thing I love more than anything is to see that residual income increase on a weekly basis. Now, that's just plain fun.

                    Linda
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                  • Profile picture of the author Richard Crooke
                    Linda and others,

                    Thanks for the positive feedback on Greg's product. I just saw a sales video today and its very interesting. I like the business model as I am a recent googlesniper member.

                    Thanks..

                    Richard
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                  • Profile picture of the author askloz
                    I'll give ya a few more reasons not to.

                    1) the guy has absolutely no idea how search engines work
                    2) the content is duplicate content
                    3) those pages will end up disappearing from the search engine and rankings will not become stable.
                    4) the guy has no clue how to do seo
                    5) it's obviously rushed software / launch, you even see errors in the posts via that magesniper video - Sorry George, not trying to put you down mate, but you have made a BIG mistake promoting that guy's software... And for the price, what a rip off! Tried to help ya mate before stepping into that big hole of a mistake. oh well

                    I'll be having mine completed soon, and you will see the big difference in how it does things, the right way, from a person who excels in SEO.

                    Originally Posted by Freeon View Post

                    Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
                    That would be my first reason not to try it.
                    And do you have to keep paying monthly after creating your site?
                    That would be my second reason...
                    I'm not trying to bash the thread but...
                    I like to own what I create.
                    I hate a monkey on my back feeling.
                    IMHO
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                    • Profile picture of the author cgallagher93
                      Loz,

                      I think you should be careful mate. I understand you may have tried similar software programs in the past but I think you should give Greg a chance to respond to be fair. I'd tend to agree with you that this thing is complete rubbish, but many may see it that you're simply trying to promote your own software. It would be a shame if you got removed because of stuff like that.

                      Just a suggestion!

                      Connor

                      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

                      I'll give ya a few more reasons not to.

                      1) the guy has absolutely no idea how search engines work
                      2) the content is duplicate content
                      3) those pages will end up disappearing from the search engine and rankings will not become stable.
                      4) the guy has no clue how to do seo
                      5) it's obviously rushed software / launch, you even see errors in the posts via that magesniper video - Sorry George, not trying to put you down mate, but you have made a BIG mistake promoting that guy's software... And for the price, what a rip off!

                      I'll be having mine completed soon, and you will see the big difference in how it does things, the right way, from a person who excels in SEO.
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                      • Profile picture of the author askloz
                        I don't need to be careful...

                        the video was enough proof in it self...

                        AND, I personally went over to google translater, after watching his video 5, at how he translates the text to 2 other or more languages then back to english, have you tried it?

                        did you see that it only changed a few words?

                        COUGH: Duplicate Content


                        I have my own personal software that I have been using now for over 2 years that does a MUCH better job than his software, and far much more.

                        I have over 1600 of my own sites out there that using my script, churning out over 100,000 posts a day to my network of sites, with over 12 million pages indexed, knocking out over 10 million unique visitors to my sites.

                        So I think I know what I am talking about.

                        Im not trying to promote my own software, besides, over 14,000 people already are waiting for my software to launch, so I dont need to promote here or anywhere else. and I can tell ya now, it wont be going for $797. nowhere close.

                        Originally Posted by cgallagher93 View Post

                        Loz,

                        I think you should be careful mate. I understand you may have tried similar software programs in the past but I think you should give Greg a chance to respond to be fair. I'd tend to agree with you that this thing is complete rubbish, but many may see it that you're simply trying to promote your own software. It would be a shame if you got removed because of stuff like that.

                        Just a suggestion!

                        Connor
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                    • Profile picture of the author askloz
                      Excuse you, i never swore.

                      I dont need to try his product, i've seen his demo videos... I know enough about this industry (SEO) to know his software is lame.

                      you're just a newbie that doesn't have a clue how things work in the SEO world.

                      Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post

                      Loz,

                      Mind your manners man really! Did you even try out his product? Give the guy a chance before you jump in here bashing his balls and everything.

                      Stop sounding like a monkey man and give us some proof for your accusations.

                      How can that be done when I fixed all the problems years ago.

                      and stop telling me what to do, you aint my mother...
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                      • Profile picture of the author askloz
                        Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post

                        Loz, I bought your products "teaching" us how to do SEO, and I learned SQUAT from you. You keep bashing in here and accusing everybody of being noobs and not knowing what they are doing, but I don't see any TEACHING from your side.
                        Well, thanks for being a member

                        If you learned squat, is that my fault. Did you ever ask me any questions? Not as far as I recall. If you had, then I would of taken you to one side and helped you even more.

                        You dont see any teaching on my side? where you been living then? pull that curtain from your eyes.

                        VTGP has heaps of info there about SEO, more than you already knew. And I bet to this very day, you dont put them into practice.

                        I've helped thousands learn how to do SEO and increase their search engine rankings. If you're not gonna take action, like 90% of peeps do, not really much I can do since it's out of my hands from that point.

                        Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post

                        If you cannot add anything useful to the discussion, why are you here? We all know you are all mighty rich and powerful, so you don't have to keep telling us.
                        I am being useful, giving my SEO experience based on what his does, this is a review section. I am giving my review based on his lack of seo experience and how SE's work.

                        Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post

                        Nobody says you cannot complain, but you need some PROOF to backup your claims. Watching videos and saying the system sucks is really ignorant in my opinion.
                        Listen, like i said, my sites have been corrected of the mistakes, so there is nothing to show you proof of something where i used my custom software...

                        but if you want proof of one of my article directories. then go here:

                        site:Article Directory, Post Articles, Free Articles For Websites
                        Code:
                        site:www.articles.ask-me-about.com
                        14623

                        That's how many articles I have, google has removed most of them, why? cos they're ALL duplicate content, that article directory is about 3 years old.

                        That proves my point that duplicate content, after X years will drop from the index. at one stage I had all my articles indexed and receiving like 3-4,000 visitors per day, now dropped to approx 50-200 a day.

                        Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post

                        And how on earth would you know I'm an SEO noob? Really man c'mon.

                        I never said his product is excellent, I haven't tried it so don't KNOW YET.
                        You just answered your question, you dont know, I do. how? based on intense testing and studying. I'm able to test things for many hours per day, im online for 14-18hrs a day, testing, testing, testing.. I know what works, I know what doesn't. Many others out there dont even have 2 hours online to do the amount of testing that I've done over the years.

                        And most ppl wont even test.

                        I didn't get where I am today by not knowing what I am doing. I got where I am today by knowing what I am doing by ignoring most SEO posts online and test things out myself.

                        if you're not gonna do deep testing on 100's of sites like I have, then you wont have that picture of how SE's work. You can't work things out by having just a couple sites.
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                        • Profile picture of the author askloz
                          Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post

                          All I tried to tell you is that you should not accuse people or products without explaining WHY and giving the proof.
                          I already did, and those who know about SEO who haven't spoken up know what I am talking about too.

                          Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post


                          Nobody here is interested in opinions, or at least not I am.
                          i think you will find that over 70% of the people here do, that's why a lot of ppl go to review sites, or ask their friends for their opinions.


                          any way, i aint gonna say any more on the matter. I'll let ppl waste 800 bones.
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                          • Profile picture of the author askloz
                            OMG, I dont need to use his software.

                            My FIRST version 3 years or so ago, did EXACT same thing! I am telling you ALL from experience... take it or leave it... up to you.

                            Originally Posted by Franco Mocke View Post

                            We all appreciate your opinion, but the problem here is you have not actually tested the product yet. You only watched the videos.

                            But maybe that was enough for you to make a decision.
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                    • Profile picture of the author powyoung
                      Just go to wpmage.com/oto and you can get it there.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
                        I'm close to pushing the button, my only concern really is that we have all these people building sites pulling and spinning the same content in the same way as they will all probably use the internal keyword tool.

                        So we have a gazzilion or so sites all using the exact same spun content all in the same niches, that concerns me, the internal keyword tool is a nice feature but I think the downside is from the primary seed keyphrase it's goign to churn out the same long tails for everybody.

                        Wish it had a more impressive spinner, but on the other hand it's still a damm easy way to implement a lot of sites.

                        I'm also unsure as to why there should be any serious delay in indexing, I can wang a site up and with a tiny amount of social bookmarking and nothing else get it indexed in 24 hours or so, if I throw in some RSS and even a couple of 2.0's backling to it and then socially bookmark those I can get in the top 3 in google within a week, why should it take weeks to index the content ?

                        Despite the issues, it's still tempting.
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                      • Profile picture of the author pandorabox
                        Originally Posted by powyoung View Post

                        Just go to wpmage.com/oto and you can get it there.
                        This doesn't get you the software to build the sites, does it?
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                        • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
                          Originally Posted by pandorabox View Post

                          This doesn't get you the software to build the sites, does it?
                          Greg's already sold out of the full package, full details here:

                          WORDPRESS MAGE

                          Been waffling about deciding whether to buy or not, been somewhat moot .

                          I've just been going to the oto page as well entirely forgetting the original URL from George's page.

                          He who hesitates and all that malarky :-)

                          Catch em on the re launch, be some good feedback by then as well.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Danny Keegan
                          Originally Posted by pandorabox View Post

                          This doesn't get you the software to build the sites, does it?
                          Correct, it gets you the "adept" membership where you have access to the information and tools to build the blogs manually but for the automation tools you need the "master" mage membership.

                          Cheers,
                          Danny.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
                            Originally Posted by Danny Keegan View Post

                            Correct, it gets you the "adept" membership where you have access to the information and tools to build the blogs manually but for the automation tools you need the "master" mage membership.

                            Cheers,
                            Danny.
                            Cheers, was just about to ask about the basic differences.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
                    Did someone say you cannot sell a site built using Mage???
                    That would be my first reason not to try it.
                    And do you have to keep paying monthly after creating your site?
                    That would be my second reason...
                    I'm not trying to bash the thread but...
                    I like to own what I create.
                    I hate a monkey on my back feeling.

                    Here´s a clip from the sales page but I´m not sure if you can sell the sites you create or not. Does anyone here know?







                    When you own your WP Mage licence, you are given the system. (We'll install WP Mage on your server for free or you can install it yourself.)
                    There is no limit to the number of sites you can make. We do NOT charge you for each installation.
                    You also get ALL the tools needed to implement the system. You don't have to find and piece together this tool here and this tool there.
                    We do NOT have high monthly fees you have to pay to access our tools. Nor do we have low monthly fees...
                    You are given unlimited access to every tool you need for FREE.
                    And for life.


                    Sounds like a one time payment to me.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Russell Hall
                      Originally Posted by Frank Tocco View Post

                      Here´s a clip from the sales page but I´m not sure if you can sell the sites you create or not. Does anyone here know?

                      When you own your WP Mage licence, you are given the system. (We'll install WP Mage on your server for free or you can install it yourself.)
                      There is no limit to the number of sites you can make. We do NOT charge you for each installation.
                      You also get ALL the tools needed to implement the system. You don't have to find and piece together this tool here and this tool there.
                      We do NOT have high monthly fees you have to pay to access our tools. Nor do we have low monthly fees...
                      You are given unlimited access to every tool you need for FREE.
                      And for life.


                      Sounds like a one time payment to me.
                      Yes,.. the full Mage membership is a one time payment.

                      As far as the notion that you cannot sell a site built with Mage,- that's not correct,.. you can sell any sites you create as long as you have a willing buyer. One thing you could not do would be to set up a site so that is continually adding content via the Mage "drip feed" and thereby requires the installation of Mage. In such circumstances that buyer would have to invest in Mage him/herself but then the issue of availability from Greg may come into play (i.e. at the time of your sale, Mage may not be available for sale). But,.. having said that, there would be nothing to stop you creating a MAge site and then selling it later (although if it was producing you regular passive monthly income.. why would you want to sell?), and the purchaser would then have to look after the ongoing content and management as is the case with the sale of any site.

                      @cashtech29 if you're not "technical" and need things to function simplistically then the Mage system would be ideal for you. I can't recall the last time I saw a system that is so streamlined and "one-click" install and management oriented.
                      As pointed out by Linda Van Fleet, Greg gives a 30 day satisfaction money back guarantee so you could really put the Mage through its paces in that time and the system and all the user friendly functions would be made quite clear. On the other hand,.. the $27 Adept Mage membership would give you a clear insight and at present the $27 is waived for the first 60 days. The only problem I see with "sitting on the fence" would be that Master Mage membership openings could be closed by the time you realized it was worth pursuing.

                      I'm not affiliated with Greg in any way,.. and although I live in Thailand I've never met nor spoken with him so I can speak honestly and without bias,.. and having said that I'll say that if I wasn't myself very technically capable in being able to set up sites, tweak wordpress, and plugins etc, and if I could afford to lay $797 or 3 x $297 on the table then I think I'd jump at the chance. With all the "get rich schemes" and overwhelming information on the Internet today, I see the Mage system as being a way in which any serious person could set to work with it and establish an ongoing cash-flow stream. That could be enough for your to quit your day job,.. but at the very least it would provide a solid platform upon which you could build and grow your eventual self sustaining IM business. There aren't very many opportunities out there that the same could be said of (I should know because I've tried and failed with many of them).
                      Cheers, Russ
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                      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
                        Thank you for your feedback.
                        I am curious; Once the system is bought, is it or the adept mage extra software linked
                        back to Graig's system?

                        I would be concerned that if something were to happen to Graig, such as
                        loss of interest, incarceration or even him passing away, would the system then become useless to anyone who has it???
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                        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                          Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

                          Thank you for your feedback.
                          I am curious; Once the system is bought, is it or the adept mage extra software linked
                          back to Graig's system?

                          I would be concerned that if something were to happen to Graig, such as
                          loss of interest, incarceration or even him passing away, would the system then become useless to anyone who has it???
                          hopefully none of those things would ever happen. but if I just decided to turn off my computer for a year, your Mage would still function 100%

                          ie.. its standalone.
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                          • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
                            Thanks for the reply Greg.
                            I hope none of those would happen either.

                            So when someone buys the system and they are then instructed to
                            turn off their $27 monthly payments, is this because that extra software, then also becomes stand alone?
                            If I had you install the initial system, would I also need to have you install the extra Adept software once I turn off the $27 monthly payments?

                            Hope these questions aren't redundant...

                            EJ
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                            • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                              the $27 is for some hosted tools for domain and keyword research. you get lifetime access to that with the Master Membership.

                              so you dont have to pay monthly. We dont plan on shutting down the server anytime soon as it still has quite a few paying $27 a month members that makes it worth our time.

                              even if for some odd change that we just dropped completely off the face of the planet or moved to some country where they dont have the internets, then your core Mage will still function fine.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
                                How long does it usually take for Google to find all the comments in newly formed Mage site and index them? Does anyone know?
                                Seems like it does a few at a time but does anyone have any first hand experience with this? Is there any way to speed up the process?
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                  • Profile picture of the author SuccessMatrix
                    Linda,

                    Thanks a lot for all your posts, and especially the frist one, that clarified A LOT for me, that I was not clear about because I didn't get the picturea how all the tools are connected.

                    Especiall what CPmage is needed for compared whth the other plug ins.
                    I joined wpmage 3 days ago, soaked all in, and sounds doable for me, even with intermediate technical skills. I know basic FTP etc. but finally there is still the option to get an affordable webmaster, if get stuck at any point - or simply to save valueable time versus figuring details mayself.

                    Also big thanks for the effort and energy you put into explaining!!! It really is extremely helpful!!

                    You're actually an hyperactive helper

                    Also saw your posts inside the wpmage forum! Those were among the most helpful onse!!

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                    Also thanks to Greg, I think you are really doing a lot to make this system be a real help!!, and not just another "product launch" out there.


                    I am curious how fast with my experience level I'll be able to get cranking out sites.

                    Therefore Linda's experience gives a good orientation - thanks again.


                    SOMETHING TO THINK:

                    But now, during my calculation I came accross one point: to go ahead and make 50 blogs means buying 50 of the $5 domains ... IF I am lucky to get 50 GOOD domains at $5.
                    This is a domain investment of $250.... I know there is no biz w/o being prepared to invest.
                    But when starting out, that might be a lot, not knowin yet, how much the blogs will return.

                    If 50 blogs made $50 each, that would be $2,500.... so investing $250 should be a no-brainer.

                    Yet, will they really all convert in $50 per month?? Probably rather not.

                    And this is my beginner-concern right now.....
                    The beta-testers report having earned $150 - $600 with say 30 blogs?
                    This is not $50 income per blog yet...


                    My question to the experienced Mages:
                    Did you really break even in the first month? (domain costs vs. revenue)
                    And can I expect to really get good domains all at $5 each?

                    The main "consumption material" (allow me to call it like that), are domains!
                    A BUNCH of them is needed!

                    100 domains x $5 = $500!!
                    Could a webmastery-beginner manage to build 100 domains in one month?
                    and would they break even in the first 4-8 weeks? :confused:


                    This now is really a question of breaking even, e.g. if to speed things up I would buy CPmage the investments at the same time becomes SUPER HUGE, since with making hundreds of blogs fast, also means buying domains like mad.....


                    Just some brainstorming here :rolleyes: ... appreciate every feedback.


                    Thanks!
                    Sanja
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                    • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
                      You are asking the same question as many others.

                      When I started, I bought several expired domains to get things going. They are earning more and more every day.

                      But, yes, they do get pricy while you wait for your earnings to increase.

                      So I started buying and using new domains, even cheap .info's. It strays from Greg's recommendations, but it was my only option. And they are doing fine, and earning more and more every week. After I have good money coming in, I will reinvest some of it back into buying more expired domains.

                      Work with what you have. Even if the new domains don't do AS well as the expireds, if you put up 100 sites/week, they will make you money.

                      And yes, it's VERY doable to put up 100 of these sites in a week. Even with new domains, or even just adsense, that's pretty awesome!
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                      • Profile picture of the author SuccessMatrix
                        Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

                        You are asking the same question as many others.

                        When I started, I bought several expired domains to get things going. They are earning more and more every day.

                        But, yes, they do get pricy while you wait for your earnings to increase.

                        So I started buying and using new domains, even cheap .info's. It strays from Greg's recommendations, but it was my only option. And they are doing fine, and earning more and more every week. After I have good money coming in, I will reinvest some of it back into buying more expired domains.

                        Work with what you have. Even if the new domains don't do AS well as the expireds, if you put up 100 sites/week, they will make you money.

                        And yes, it's VERY doable to put up 100 of these sites in a week. Even with new domains, or even just adsense, that's pretty awesome!
                        -----------

                        Oh wow, really 100 per week is realistic?
                        :p
                        Actually I can imagine that, based on Greg said somewhere that 20 blogs in one afternoon are possible.
                        (And I don't mind the work, as long as it IS doable, and pays in the end.)

                        But I did not dare to even thik of 100 per week. I considered 100 per month may be a lot for a starter already.

                        Anyhow, thanks for sharing your experience, especially with .info!!! I wouldn't have dared to use them ;-)
                        I have some .infos, they have no PR but a considerable amount of backlinks on them, which might help to get started! THANKS FOR THAT TIP!!

                        Take care,
                        Sanja
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                  • Profile picture of the author Technologize
                    I think anyone using this system is playing with fire.

                    In six months, my bet is on...

                    1. Google Slapping any of these sites right out of the SERPS
                    2. EPN Booting anyone sending traffic from these sites

                    Look, i think it's a great, well thought out system. But like anything in life, short term effort = short term results.

                    Be careful with this... if you do it.

                    A.
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                    • Profile picture of the author ronmojohny
                      Works on sites that YOU OWN.. many of my domains have private registration, does the software do a whois check?
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                  • Profile picture of the author ionsysproject2
                    i really like the way you have set up your site Steve .. its very clever and well thought out .. Lots of good forum for everyone and great information too ..Congratulations! linda for mage...
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                  • Profile picture of the author copywriter
                    After building scores of sites with the Mage and having numerous friends do likewise (Some creating literally hundreds of sites) Greg has just confirmed what most Mage users already know. 90% of Mage Users fail.

                    Not MY words but Greg's: Strengthen Core Foundations – Greg Jacobs

                    What has me gobsmacked is that Greg accepts no responsibility for this but says basically if you don't succeed with the Mage it is because you don't understand success.

                    In a nutshell the sales copy promised the earth and the big let down was in the Mages ability to deliver.

                    When many of us posted on the Mage forums regarding massive foot printing issues, our posts were deleted.

                    Meantime the software is still being sold.

                    And the saddest part of all is that IF Greg had said: "Guys the software doesn't work but tell you what - we will create something that does and give it to you for free" he could have won the respect, admiration and loyalty of 90% of his clients.

                    Just watch the body language in the video - it says everything.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                      Originally Posted by copywriter View Post


                      What has me gobsmacked is that Greg accepts no responsibility for this but says basically if you don't succeed with the Mage it is because you don't understand success.
                      Chris Bloor, please dont put words in my mouth. you have misinterpreted what I said and seem to be on some sort of personal vendetta. but thank you for linking the video. I think people would find it useful.
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                • Profile picture of the author PowPow
                  Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

                  Probably the root of our disagreement is that this is not a "WP Automation Tool"

                  How many people have used "WP Automation Tools" and never earned any significant $$. Probably many. I have used all these too and have earned some, but never enough to call it a fully earning system

                  The reason is that they are all piecework. It is difficult and long to bind various systems together. And there is no solid core to push people towards.

                  To make the money using the Blueprint you need the following things
                  • Fast Site Creation and Configuration
                  • Targeted Unique Content creation
                  • Tageted Affiliate listings
                  • Content and Affiliate listings need to be mashed up on the same page and relvent
                  • Massive creation of posts based on the above stipulations
                  • SEO Optimized and non-footprinted layouts.
                  Like Brian above, I used to do this manually. I had a desktop full of patchwork scripts I would actually generate text files in Linux and do SQL imports and actually did quite well. But it was ALOT of work.

                  What we have done is esentially taken the knowledge of how these systems work and put them together into a singular plug and play system. And it works! It really really works

                  Yes in theory you can do it all on your own... but it depends how you value your time.

                  Regarding the investment. Well, its not a $20 script. I agree with you on that front. It just comes down to being able to see the value in the Mage and do a Cost-Benefit-Analysis on whether you can save more time by using the turnkey system than you will by doing it on your own.

                  This can only be determined based on how you value your own time and the weight of benefit you can get from using the Mage

                  I can tell you that despite being about to create these sites through Linux, I use the Mage now for all my own sites.

                  Why?
                  Because my time is valuable and I know the forumla that earns and I prefer to earn rather than tinker.

                  So you can see, I am not really in disagreement with you, but I would recommend to stop thinking about the Mage as a "WP Automation Plugin" but more as a complete system and coursework for earning an income online. (that just happens to be based on wordpress)

                  hope that explanation puts us in alignment.

                  Respectfully
                  -Greg
                  Greg,

                  I'd like to know when you will be opening the WP Mage system back up again, and what it will cost to join for Warriors? Are you allowing people in now for those who request it? I'd love to be added to your testimonials.

                  Thanks so much...
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                  • Profile picture of the author Terry Matthews
                    I get quite a few people asking me about the Mage system. I wonder if any other beta testers (and early adopters), could just jot down their stats to see what kind of trend we have.

                    Like the couple of people above.... total sites built (at which level of automation, amount of time invested, and the initial and current income levels.

                    Terry
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        • Profile picture of the author Brian Johnson
          Hey Everyone

          Interesting as I have done this quite a bit in the past and the results are staggering. The core concepts here are powerful and when put to use they can make you a lot of money, in fact during the spring and summer of 2007 I targeted this same method (and did things manually). I had great success with the idea of "piggy backing" ...

          It worked incredibly well for me and over the course of six months I had built up an ebay income of about $2500 monthly and also added another 2k or so to my Adsense income.

          I will be interested to see how this program rolls out, and I wish Greg luck as he rolls Mage out.

          Best,
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          • Profile picture of the author JBanis
            Originally Posted by Brian Johnson View Post

            Hey Everyone

            Interesting as I have done this quite a bit in the past and the results are staggering. The core concepts here are powerful and when put to use they can make you a lot of money, in fact during the spring and summer of 2007 I targeted this same method (and did things manually). I had great success with the idea of "piggy backing" ...

            It worked incredibly well for me and over the course of six months I had built up an ebay income of about $2500 monthly and also added another 2k or so to my Adsense income.

            I will be interested to see how this program rolls out, and I wish Greg luck as he rolls Mage out.

            Best,
            Hi Brian

            Could you give us an indication of how many sites you built per week/month or so, orhow many you had after six months to get to that level of income?

            Jan
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            • Profile picture of the author Brian Johnson
              Originally Posted by JBanis View Post

              Hi Brian

              Could you give us an indication of how many sites you built per week/month or so, orhow many you had after six months to get to that level of income?

              Jan
              Sure Jan,

              My method was simple:

              Find domains that were expired, based on products or services that were available at ebay. I probably worked about twenty hours a week, however note that I had a very good system down and I understood wordpress (platform of choice for me for years).

              In the course of the six months I purchased about 100 expired domains, and launched about 75 sites based on those domains. Each site had just anywhere from 1 to 25 posts on them.

              I hired out for unique content on some sites (after they were making me money).

              I have revised this method often in the last year and a half to ensure that Google still ranks the sites high (they do when you know what type of domains to buy).

              - This is not a magic bullet.
              - This takes work.

              The results are well worth it.

              Best,
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              • Profile picture of the author JBanis
                Originally Posted by Brian Johnson View Post

                Sure Jan,

                My method was simple:

                Find domains that were expired, based on products or services that were available at ebay. I probably worked about twenty hours a week, however note that I had a very good system down and I understood wordpress (platform of choice for me for years).

                In the course of the six months I purchased about 100 expired domains, and launched about 75 sites based on those domains. Each site had just anywhere from 1 to 25 posts on them.

                I hired out for unique content on some sites (after they were making me money).

                I have revised this method often in the last year and a half to ensure that Google still ranks the sites high (they do when you know what type of domains to buy).

                - This is not a magic bullet.
                - This takes work.

                The results are well worth it.

                Best,
                Sounds good, well done. A good working system is all it takes often. It does sound like it could be well worth it. I for one would like to try such an approach. Do you have a system for keep track of all the data of all those sites? Sounds like an admin nightmare :-)
                And do you have more than one server?

                Thanks

                J
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                • Profile picture of the author Brian Johnson
                  Jan,

                  Quite honestly I would say you should jump right in and get started, yes I have systems in place to manage. I have tons of hosting simply because I have been fulltime online for years.

                  However, you could get started with a simple hosting plan
                  (hostmonster is great) and with say five sites. One thing I
                  see many people do is they try to look into the future and
                  they think what maybe or what maybe difficult.

                  -how would I manage?
                  -gosh what about hosting?
                  -how do I do ... blablabla

                  Instead your better of just thinking:

                  - what can I do right now today to move forward.

                  Worry about managing sites once you have twenty, just do it.

                  Get started.

                  Take action.

                  Best,
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    • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
      Originally Posted by cowboyrob View Post

      I believe it's $400 off that price. I'm looking at the final page right before I click pay right now, and with the warrior coupon, it's $597.00.

      I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.
      What Warrior coupon ?
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      • Profile picture of the author cgallagher93
        Loz,

        I wasn't suggesting for one minute that you're trying to promote your software here, I was just saying that others (Greg in particular) might get pretty offended and see it as that way as it is a reviews thread to be fair.

        On the other hand, if your software is *that* good, I'll certainly be interested. Could you please PM a link to get on the waiting list buddy?

        Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author askloz
          Gotcha,

          I consider George to be a good ole chap, and feel offended that he's been mislead. But I can see the over all "WOW, this looks good" that George had running through his mind. I tried to help the guy. But I guess you can't lead a horse water, they'll merry along their own path and drink the water when they want.

          oh hum, kinda sucks, as soon as he builds a good name for himself, it's gonna be tarnished 10 times as quick.

          Originally Posted by cgallagher93 View Post

          Loz,

          I wasn't suggesting for one minute that you're trying to promote your software here, I was just saying that others (Greg in particular) might get pretty offended and see it as that way as it is a reviews thread to be fair.

          On the other hand, if your software is *that* good, I'll certainly be interested. Could you please PM a link to get on the waiting list buddy?

          Cheers
          link is in my sig.
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    • Profile picture of the author lockch
      Originally Posted by cowboyrob View Post

      I believe it's $400 off that price. I'm looking at the final page right before I click pay right now, and with the warrior coupon, it's $597.00.

      I'm still debating whether I should make the purchase. I feel like I could do well with it just based off of the reviews, but that's a pretty big monetary commitment. And then there's the $27 monthly fee.
      Warrior coupon?
      What is it?
      Can you give me the info ?
      I want to buy it ASAP
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  • Profile picture of the author cowboyrob
    I'm definitely leaning towards it, Linda. I'm just wondering if there's still room for me to profit from it. By the way, is there a pretty decent wealth of info in the private forum Master Mage's get access to?

    And no, I'm not the one that called you. Sorry!
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by cowboyrob View Post

      I'm definitely leaning towards it, Linda. I'm just wondering if there's still room for me to profit from it. By the way, is there a pretty decent wealth of info in the private forum Master Mage's get access to?

      And no, I'm not the one that called you. Sorry!
      Sorry about that ... someone called me yesterday (re. wpmage) from Texas . Don't know if he was a cowboy, though.

      The private forum has a lot of info about full level stuff. It's a good forum.

      Always room for profit using wpmage. You have to be sure, though -- don't do it unless you are. It is a good system, but not for everyone. If you join us ... I'll see you there.

      Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author lockch
      Originally Posted by cowboyrob View Post

      I'm definitely leaning towards it, Linda. I'm just wondering if there's still room for me to profit from it. By the way, is there a pretty decent wealth of info in the private forum Master Mage's get access to?

      And no, I'm not the one that called you. Sorry!
      Hi..
      You mentioned a discount for WARRIOR FORUM members?
      Can you share it with me pls?
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane Dolby
    it makes money plain and simple as long as you do the work like anything else you get back what you put into it.


    oh and the training is excellent and the forums have much great info
    Shane
    Master Mage
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I think the forums are very full of help. This can't really be saturated, so there's no reason for us not to help each other. Greg offers a money back guarantee, so if you're hesitant, just go for it, build a ton of sites fast so that you'll know if it doesn't work for you after a month. It takes at least that long to really start to get indexed and getting good clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author cowboyrob
    So, since I don't really have a site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet, I would most likely want to start with AdSense. Is anyone that either of you, or anyone else for that matter, have actually heard of doing well with AdSense and the Mage system?
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by cowboyrob View Post

      So, since I don't really have a site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet, I would most likely want to start with AdSense. Is anyone that either of you, or anyone else for that matter, have actually heard of doing well with AdSense and the Mage system?
      I have the same problem regarding Rob. "site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet" Adsense not sure any thoughts guys?
      Greg emailed and mentioned that e-bay shouldn't be a problem but unsure as to overstock.(for myself)

      Really like to give this a go, just wish i knew that partnership with affiliate programs was a go.
      Rob / Dubhlinn,

      No one can promise success ... you just have to dive and make waves.

      I am not an Adsense fan. I have one site (not mage) that has been earning $250+- Adsense each month ... for many years. It used to earn $1200+- per month before the Google algo change that knocked a lot of folks out of the boat. You have to have a lot of page views and a good niche to make money with Adsense.

      On the other hand, Overstock, Amazon and eBay are product driven. People will find your pages because they type in a product in the search engines. When they get to your page they are likely to click on your product link because that's what brought them there. After that, it up to the affiliate site to sell them. You have done your job by providing the link.

      Can you make money? YES.
      WILL you make money? Yes, maybe, perhaps, hopefully ... who knows? It depends on a lot of things. Your success cannot be measured by what I, or Amy, or anyone other person using this system is doing, although it is encouraging and helpful to see what others are doing. It can be only measured against your own efforts.

      But there is one thing for sure ... if you are persistent ... keep following Greg's plan of action - you have more chances than someone who just puts up a couple of sites and quits. The money will be made in the numbers. The more sites you build the more chance you have to make the money.

      Greg has a great plan for success. I'm following it (customized to my personality) and I am having success. Will you have the same success? I honestly don't know. I can only tell you what I am doing.

      Always keep in mind that Greg believes in his program enough to provide a guarantee. You really have nothing to lose.

      Linda
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        • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
          um - i don't know what php5 is so i'm going to say "no".

          As for hostgator, I have them too and it's not recommended as a host to install cpmage on. You can, however, use the wp mage plug-in's to "pimp" blogs that are already installed (wp only) and hosted there. I have done that with no problem.

          there are several recommended that are approx. $5/month that are shared hosts and work fine with the system. the idea is that you install cp mage on that shared host, use it for 30+ sites or so, and then move on and set up another hosting account with another cpmage install elsewhere and repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I'm using adsense on several of my Mage sites, but they are too young to say if I'm "doing well."

    Here are my stats so far for adsense:
    Page CTR is 2.35%
    Page eCPM is $8.26

    Maybe others can tell me if that's good? It's not based on much data yet, though. Most of these sites are just a few days old.

    I am excited to see my traffic increasing every day. And if traffic increases, so will the clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author dubhlinn
    I have the same problem regarding Rob. "site that I think matches the criteria to be accepted into EPN just yet"
    Adsense not sure any thoughts guys?
    Greg emailed and mentioned that e-bay shouldn't be a problem but unsure as to overstock.(for myself)


    Really like to give this a go, just wish i knew that partnership with affiliate programs was a go.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I'm monetizing my sites across seven different networks. So even if you don't get into EPN, there are plenty of other ways. I think I've said this before.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gabbie Mills
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      I'm monetizing my sites across seven different networks. So even if you don't get into EPN, there are plenty of other ways. I think I've said this before.
      It's so hard to get into EPN these days. what are some of these other networks you were referring to?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Right now, I have ads running from all of the following:

    1. Markethealth
    2. Adsense
    3. EPN
    4. Ads 4 Dough
    5. AdDrive
    6. Amazon
    7. Clickbank

    There are hundreds of places on the internet that want to place their ads on your website. Mage automatically will place EPN, Amazon and ebay. But with an extra 2 minutes of work, I am placing other alternatives, as well. Check out the CPA forum for ideas.
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  • Profile picture of the author dubhlinn
    Thanks for the information linda. I think i am going to take the plunge. At work so hopefully its still a go by the time i get home.
    C'mon Rob get in there..
    See you on the inside
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  • Profile picture of the author JBanis
    Well...I am still pretty interested and have looked at some other tools. I think others do ok with a selection of other tools glued together, just like Greg says. And part of me doesnt lik to be dependent on an external system...yet...its the speed, the automation...I know for a fact that I would get distracted with details, like a good perfectionist ;-) when I'd try to set various tools up properly, it would take me quite a while. Mage seems to ''magically solve that problem (sorry, couldnt resist ;-) )

    I also dont think I have much chance with being accepted by Ebay, but im heartened by the other possibilities.

    Jan
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  • Profile picture of the author JBanis
    Totally agree, great advice. I've been online for a bit too and do have hosting, but Im not sure how many sites per host etc...

    But you're darn right about just get started, and then...follow through. 99% of people fail right there.

    Thanks again

    J
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul1256
    I have a question. Would it be better to get accepted into EPN and then buy the Mage system?

    Paul
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      Originally Posted by Paul1256 View Post

      I have a question. Would it be better to get accepted into EPN and then buy the Mage system?

      Paul
      People do well with EPN, but EPN is not necessary for success with the Mage either.

      Once you get into the powers of the massive site and content generation you can start to get creative and monetize in hundreds of different ways.
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      • Profile picture of the author gallus
        Am I correct in assuming that you could add extra affiliate links and banner ads and CPA offers, over and above the built in Mage ones, and will it work with premium templates such as Thesis.
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        • Profile picture of the author twinmom
          Originally Posted by gallus View Post

          Am I correct in assuming that you could add extra affiliate links and banner ads and CPA offers, over and above the built in Mage ones, and will it work with premium templates such as Thesis.
          Hi Gallus
          Yes, you can add other offers as well. You can customize templates for your posts to include other banners, etc or you can use the WhyDoWork plugin (my preferred method).
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        • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
          Originally Posted by gallus View Post

          Am I correct in assuming that you could add extra affiliate links and banner ads and CPA offers, over and above the built in Mage ones, and will it work with premium templates such as Thesis.
          Hi Gallus,

          Tracy is correct ... you can add anything you want to the wordpress site built with mage just as you can any other wordpress site. While mage does not come with these "built in" you are free to utilize any and all so long as the plugin doesn't conflict with mage.

          I do not use mage with a premium template ... just the freebies that I customize ... so I can't answer your specific question about Thesis. However, if it they haven't modified the core -- i.e., you can use other plugins ... it should work as the mage is powered by plugins.

          I do know Greg is working on adding even more auto-monitization features that will be available very soon and, in a word ... rocks.

          Greg will probably pop in and give you more details about your question and about the upgrades.

          Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I don't think so. It's better to just get your sites going and getting indexed, so you can start making money as soon as possible. For starters, you could just put a few posts up (like 100-200). Then, when you are accepted, add thousands more with epn links!

    Lots of people are just monetizing with adsense and other methods while they wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author mtucker
    Hello Mage members, I was part of a downsizing this past Friday. I have 60 days to find another job internally at my company or I can leave the company for good. If I leave the company, I"ll get a severance package that will be about 8 months of living expenses. If I decide to leave my company and go into IM fulltime, what is a realistic expectation of income I could make in 8 months if I dedicate 40 hours a week to using the Mage system? I know it's impossible to give me an actual number but best guest estimation would be greatly appreciated!!
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    • Profile picture of the author digidoodles
      If you team up with ONE other trusted person and work 40-60 hours a week, and do things RIGHT from the beginning, you should have no problem creating a residual income that you can comfortably live off of.

      If you do it by yourself and you work 80-100 hours per week (I'm serious), don't lose your motivation, in about 10-12 months you'll be golden. 8 months should provide you with an income to live on. 10-12 months and you're set.

      If you do it and do it right from the outset, you're good to go.

      We are using mage on a limited basis right now. However, that is soon to change, very soon.

      Good luck and if you have any questions, PM me.

      Warmly,

      Brandi

      Originally Posted by mtucker View Post

      Hello Mage members, I was part of a downsizing this past Friday. I have 60 days to find another job internally at my company or I can leave the company for good. If I leave the company, I"ll get a severance package that will be about 8 months of living expenses. If I decide to leave my company and go into IM fulltime, what is a realistic expectation of income I could make in 8 months if I dedicate 40 hours a week to using the Mage system? I know it's impossible to give me an actual number but best guest estimation would be greatly appreciated!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Russell Hall
      Originally Posted by mtucker View Post

      Hello Mage members, I was part of a downsizing this past Friday. I have 60 days to find another job internally at my company or I can leave the company for good. If I leave the company, I"ll get a severance package that will be about 8 months of living expenses. If I decide to leave my company and go into IM fulltime, what is a realistic expectation of income I could make in 8 months if I dedicate 40 hours a week to using the Mage system? I know it's impossible to give me an actual number but best guest estimation would be greatly appreciated!!
      Hi,
      IMHO I would advise you not to go out on a limb and gamble your family's welfare using "scared money". What I mean by that is that 8 months seems like a long time now,.. but it will soon fly past and in 4 or 5 months from now if you hadn't replicated your current earnings then you'd really start to be feeling under pressure. I've been there several times since being online and I can tell you that one's thinking and choices tend to become blurred and panicked under such circumstances.
      I certainly feel that within 6 months you could be in a situation where you could be consistantly earning between $2,000 to $4,000 per month with such a system as Mage (Perhaps realistically even more than that depending on your level of application and a little good fortune along the way.) As with anything though,- there are always downsides (and blindsides...been hit by a few) and as such, your level of success would be somewhat speculative at this stage.
      If I was in your shoes I'd probably take the internal transfer and hang on to that steady cash flow of income. There's nothing quite like embarking on any new business (especially IM) knowing that you have a very comfortable cash buffer on hand.

      The thing with Mage that seems clear is that the necessity to spend 40 to 60 hours per week "working" the system is absolutely unnecessary. In fact, it's specifically been designed under a very simple automated system both from mechanical and a theoretical/blueprint aspect,.. and as such I'd suggest to you that if you were to spend 10 to 15 hours a week on this to get started that you'd probably see just as remarkable results as you would sitting behind your PC for 40 hours per week.

      Sometimes, I strongly feel that when I have limited time to spend on my IM projects that I get more done,.. simply because I have to force myself to remain focused. It's so easy to waste away hours when you're online "full time".
      Once you had established yourself and your Mage system to the point of consistent and rising income you could then retire from your day job.
      Hope this helps in the overall perspective, and I wish you the best in whatever eventual choices you make.
      Russ
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      • Profile picture of the author mick535
        I am currently testing the WP Mage system. I have only been at it for a short while now as I am a long time Auto blogger, I find the tools here ot be a great add on to what I already do.

        I have found that using Plugins like phpBay and ReviewAZON by modifying my templates (5 minutes of work) have made a big difference in the SEO of the sites. By making your EPN and Amazon Links SEO Friendly you keep the GoogleBot coming in.

        For my content sites I am using Adsense, but I am using the MaxPress Ninja Cloaker to automatically add Affiliate links to preset keywords that I have chosen. The links themselves are seen as pages by Google and they have been indexed in some cases by most of my pre-existing blogs created with WP Robot and Autoblogged. It creates anchor text links in the content and I normally get more from those links than I do the Adsense.

        The worst thing about WP Mage is that the Page Tiltes are not maximized for SEO. They are not bad. But they could be better. I have made some suggestions to Greg on this.

        I have over 20 Blogs that are in the works right now and I have several domains with over PR4 and PR5 with thousands of backlinks that I am hoping to capitalize on. I am using the Redirection Plugin along with a 301 redirect to take advantage of pre-exiting links to pages that don't exist for the Expired and Auction Domains that I have purchased.

        It is a great system, but just linke any Autoblog, the out of the box solution is not the answer. To get the most out of these blogs you need to "Pimp" them as Greg says.
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        • Profile picture of the author thinredline
          Thanks Mike for your very helpful insights. I have ReviewAzon too, but don't know MaxBlogPress Ninja Cloaker is so powerful.

          Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

          I am currently testing the WP Mage system. I have only been at it for a short while now as I am a long time Auto blogger, I find the tools here ot be a great add on to what I already do.

          I have found that using Plugins like phpBay and ReviewAZON by modifying my templates (5 minutes of work) have made a big difference in the SEO of the sites. By making your EPN and Amazon Links SEO Friendly you keep the GoogleBot coming in.

          For my content sites I am using Adsense, but I am using the MaxPress Ninja Cloaker to automatically add Affiliate links to preset keywords that I have chosen. The links themselves are seen as pages by Google and they have been indexed in some cases by most of my pre-existing blogs created with WP Robot and Autoblogged. It creates anchor text links in the content and I normally get more from those links than I do the Adsense.

          The worst thing about WP Mage is that the Page Tiltes are not maximized for SEO. They are not bad. But they could be better. I have made some suggestions to Greg on this.

          I have over 20 Blogs that are in the works right now and I have several domains with over PR4 and PR5 with thousands of backlinks that I am hoping to capitalize on. I am using the Redirection Plugin along with a 301 redirect to take advantage of pre-exiting links to pages that don't exist for the Expired and Auction Domains that I have purchased.

          It is a great system, but just linke any Autoblog, the out of the box solution is not the answer. To get the most out of these blogs you need to "Pimp" them as Greg says.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jdean2009
          Mick535 Hi, I'm interested in the redirection plugin (as a buyer and user of old domains) - is this part of the Mage package or a seperate tool ?
          Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author thinredline
    So Greg, the CPMage and Master Mage are no longer available, right? Is Adept Mage Toolkit is a less sophisticated solution?
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      Originally Posted by mtucker View Post

      Hello Mage members, I was part of a downsizing this past Friday. I have 60 days to find another job internally at my company or I can leave the company for good. If I leave the company, I"ll get a severance package that will be about 8 months of living expenses. If I decide to leave my company and go into IM fulltime, what is a realistic expectation of income I could make in 8 months if I dedicate 40 hours a week to using the Mage system? I know it's impossible to give me an actual number but best guest estimation would be greatly appreciated!!
      The short answer is that nothing can promise success, however the Mage is going to be as close as you can possibly actually having that push button system. It was built to earn for me, not to be marketed. selling it was an afterthought. I have sent you a PM and we can discuss further offline as needed

      Originally Posted by thinredline View Post

      So Greg, the CPMage and Master Mage are no longer available, right? Is Adept Mage Toolkit is a less sophisticated solution?
      Master Mage will be available again shortly. But for now get your feet wet with Adept to get an idea for the landscape
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    • Profile picture of the author mtucker
      Replied to your PM and would like to continue dialog. Thanks :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author thinredline
    Greg, can you PM me your demo site? I guess I will test the water with Adept Mage.
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    • Profile picture of the author seminyha
      Hi all.
      I understand the many postings will be listed all over the search engines.
      My question is how well are these posting ranking.
      They have to be up there to be seen right?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Yes, several rank well because they are such longtail, specific keywords. I'm shocked at how specific the longtails are that people are using to find my sites. Of course, many will not rank at all. That's what makes it a numbers game.
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    • Profile picture of the author PanamaMark
      Greg et al,

      WP Mage looks very exciting however I'm a bit jaded and have a few questions. First of all I've tried the auto blogging thing with a few different programs and haven't seen any discussion as to the differences.

      1. How is this different from BANS (build a niche store) which had a nice run for a few months but then Google picked up the footprint and shut those sites down (de-indexed) pretty fast. What makes WP mage different?

      2. Next came Niche Devil - Vic was very cautious in only releasing this for a few hours but again Google picked it up and shut it down in a matter of weeks. How do we know Google isn't going to pick up on this and shut it down quickly too?

      3. We know Google will already be aware of the program and already has I'm sure a squad of techies ripping it apart and figuring out how to tag it and shut all of our sites down. What is your strategy for protecting us from that?

      4. I noticed one poster to this thread that said he wasn't even doing market or kw research - he's just building 100 sites a day. That's sure to raise red flags and bring all of us down.

      I could go on but you get the idea - Google has unlimited resources and people dedicated to shutting down programs like WP Mage before they even get started. I just don't want to put effort and $$$ into this next greatest thing only to be disappointed. Thanks for any clarification - confidence you can provide. :confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
        Originally Posted by PanamaMark View Post

        Greg et al,

        WP Mage looks very exciting however I'm a bit jaded and have a few questions. First of all I've tried the auto blogging thing with a few different programs and haven't seen any discussion as to the differences.

        1. How is this different from BANS (build a niche store) which had a nice run for a few months but then Google picked up the footprint and shut those sites down (de-indexed) pretty fast. What makes WP mage different?

        2. Next came Niche Devil - Vic was very cautious in only releasing this for a few hours but again Google picked it up and shut it down in a matter of weeks. How do we know Google isn't going to pick up on this and shut it down quickly too?

        3. We know Google will already be aware of the program and already has I'm sure a squad of techies ripping it apart and figuring out how to tag it and shut all of our sites down. What is your strategy for protecting us from that?

        4. I noticed one poster to this thread that said he wasn't even doing market or kw research - he's just building 100 sites a day. That's sure to raise red flags and bring all of us down.

        I could go on but you get the idea - Google has unlimited resources and people dedicated to shutting down programs like WP Mage before they even get started. I just don't want to put effort and $$$ into this next greatest thing only to be disappointed. Thanks for any clarification - confidence you can provide. :confused:
        I will answer your question in aggregate.

        This is the most powerful thing to ever hit the market by a longshot.

        It is like the iPhone. Nothing even comes close.
        Its not only user friendly, but its modular and template driven

        Meaning that 100 people can use it and each will be completely different way of putting up their sites.

        Meaning that its powers rest it in abilities to function through templates and create massive content easily. The user then decides how to arrange display and what content to use, thus avoiding the issue of footprinting.

        If a user uses the Mage well, it is impossible to make a footprint to other users because it rests on their own tweaks, variables and keywords.

        After you get your hands on it and had a good dig, you will see what I mean.

        Hope that answers your questions.
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        • Profile picture of the author PanamaMark
          Greg,

          Awesome response time! Thanks for being so quick. If this is an indication of your customer service you're going to be a great guy to do business with!

          You did answer one of my questions regarding 'foot print'. Not sure if you or anyone else for that matter is familiar with Niche Devil (very similar program to WP Mage) or BANS. It would be nice to have someone comment on comparisons and my other points. Anyone else care to comment - compare?

          Thanks again Greg for your lightning fast response!
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          • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
            Originally Posted by PanamaMark View Post

            Greg,

            Awesome response time! Thanks for being so quick. If this is an indication of your customer service you're going to be a great guy to do business with!

            You did answer one of my questions regarding 'foot print'. Not sure if you or anyone else for that matter is familiar with Niche Devil (very similar program to WP Mage) or BANS. It would be nice to have someone comment on comparisons and my other points. Anyone else care to comment - compare?

            Thanks again Greg for your lightning fast response!
            BANS doesnt even come close to this. Not even in the same league.
            BANS pulls eBay Feeds based on Category. MAGE can do that if you want but it is like 1 of hundreds of different options depending on how you arrange your templates.

            I have never used niche devil so cannot comment
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        • Profile picture of the author askloz
          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

          This is the most powerful thing to ever hit the market by a longshot.
          If you think that, you're living in a world of your own.

          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

          It is like the iPhone. Nothing even comes close.
          ROTFLMAO... again, you're dreaming. If I had to pay $797 over yours or the iphone, i'd get the iphone, well, i have 3 of them..


          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

          Meaning that 100 people can use it and each will be completely different way of putting up their sites.
          There is only so much content you can create based on the same keywords, your software is gonna spread more duplicate content out there. You have taken no respect in regard to Google's terms, your site is just a mass duplicate content creator...

          like i said in George's thread, im not knocking your idea, it's not just very well thought out.
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  • Profile picture of the author cgallagher93
    Hi Greg,

    I've got a few questions I'd like to ask as I'm rather concerned as to whether WP Mage has any substance for near $800. From what I've seen in the launch video, this is pretty much going out and creating duplicate content (bar changing a few words by multi-translation). I really think George has somewhat reduced his credibility by promoting such a product and at almost eight times the price of the Google Sniper course itself is just ridiculous!

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not usually one who criticizes stuff before it stands the test of time, but I've seen nothing in the video interview with you and George to suggest that this thing does anything other than simply changing a few words around from an Ezine Article or Yahoo Answers thread. I mean, how on earth can a piece of software possibly re-write an entire ten posts for you in approximately 2-3 seconds without it being almost plagiarised?

    I might just be being picky here, but another thing is why are you living in Thailand? I'm not sure if FTC laws apply over there but something just smells very fishy to me about this and was wondering if you're running from someone such as them...

    Finally, what happens if multiple users are in the same niche and select the same root keywords? Is there anything within WP Mage that prevents it from churning out fifty versions of the same sites?

    Thanks,

    Connor
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  • Profile picture of the author cgallagher93
    I don't know much about Google Adwords but if that "quality score" malarkey has anything to do with duplicate content then I suspect a few people could have their accounts closed?

    How about "Google Mage Slap 1"?
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  • Profile picture of the author cgallagher93
    Gotta say, I have to agree George is risking becoming like "every other guru" unless he does something about this... In addition, doesn't seem like this Greg fella is too quick to defend his product. If it was me, I'd be in here ripping my balls off by now!
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    I have a bazillion sites with a degree of dupe content on them and they are all still indexed and do nicely, it's an issue but not one that bothers me to the same degree it seems to be bothering other folks here.

    Hell Jeff makes a killing doing almost exactly the same thing infact he doesn't even bother spinning it.

    I dont' see how George is tarnishing his image, I wouldn't use it to make my quality sites but for cheapie Adsense sites etc, doesn't seem like a half bad tool, lots of stuff from Firepow etc all integrated.

    I can live with the negative aspects.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      lots of hating going on in here. Not sure how it all came out of the woodwork. The Mage has been around for months. I took dozens of Beta Testers from the WAr Room in August. And the ones that followed through are earning. We had a WSO a few weeks ago and everybody bought and loved it.

      Now all this hating because my friend George promotes it. Not sure what the reason is, but regardless....

      re: the Mage

      I am not going to get into a leading technical debate with people who obviously know more about everything than I ever could know about anything

      however....I know my system works .

      I know it works for me
      I know it works for others

      I know it earns people money.

      Re: comments about duplicate, footprints whatever... .

      It is always a concern, but thats why the system is templated.
      At the guts it is a fast installer and massive posting creation engine that you can use with templates for whatever you want.

      We are adding more mods all the time. Just in the last week we added the CJ API and the CB RSS to the engine as well.

      Our soution is TurnKEY

      Anyways. The stuff works, If you guys want to complain some more then feel free to do so, I prefer not to make anybody else wrong.

      I am just going to continue doing what I was doing and earning

      If anybody has constructive questions then happy to answer.

      -Greg
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      • Profile picture of the author askloz
        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

        lots of hating going on in here. Not sure how it all came out of the woodwork. The Mage has been around for months. I took dozens of Beta Testers from the WAr Room in August. And the ones that followed through are earning. We had a WSO a few weeks ago and everybody bought and loved it.
        it's not hating, I know it can come across that way. but your soft is just lame, its not very well thought out. you haven't taken in to consideration how search engines work at all.

        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

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        Now all this hating because my friend George promotes it. Not sure what the reason is, but regardless....
        dude, no one is hating, George contacted me before about your site before he even decided to promote your soft', and I told him straight up, the software is not worth that price, and has many flaws in it.

        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

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        I am not going to get into a leading technical debate with people who obviously know more about everything than I ever could know about anything
        Oh, ok, so you're a SEO Professional? hmmm.

        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

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        however....I know my system works .

        I know it works for me
        I know it works for others

        I know it earns people money.
        I never said it wouldn't... first, you have no respect for search engines, breaking one of the major rules of Google and others - and in time when their algorithm finally gets to your sites to judge how to rank you, it'll spit you out faster than you can say your name - i know, cos i've done EXACTLY what you were doing 3 years ago, those sites I had, many of them dropped out of the top 1000 listings, while others got de-indexed, but as soon as I made changes to it, doing things the RIGHT WAY, things have remained stable..

        secondly, you have no idea what duplicate content does, it dies into the background eventually, turning your site into a worthless piece of c**p of other ppls' articles.

        Why do you think Article directories are starting to lose their power now? even ezine articles are facing the same problem.

        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

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        Re: comments about duplicate, footprints whatever... .

        It is always a concern, but thats why the system is templated.
        At the guts it is a fast installer and massive posting creation engine that you can use with templates for whatever you want.
        LMAO, having a template does NOT get rid of the foot print. unique content and randomly "******" (not gonna say) does.
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      • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

        If anybody has constructive questions then happy to answer.
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        -Greg
        Hi Greg, here's a few constructive questions for you, give George a hello from me as I'm guessing he's sat next to you watching this unfold.

        I wouldn't ideally want every blog installed on the same IP, same hosting area, do you enter some FTP details somewhere to allow it to install into different locations?

        Is there functionality within the s/w to have the home page of the blog left for manual editing with internal pages being automated ?

        Do you retain any hooks into any of the sites built with WP mage from a technical perspective, by that I mean when the s/w is installed on the domain of our choice does it run entirely from that domain or does it make any calls to a central server ?

        If you're only selling 500 copies of this, seems like a small return for such a big investment, is there no recurring fees at all for development, upgrades, support etc?

        Do you feel Google may well start looking for a WP Mage footprint I doubt it will be hard for Google to see sites made with the s/w ?

        On your sales site it says make 100 sites with 8000 pages each , that is a huge amount of thinly duplicated content, in addition do you think Google will have an issue with a site going from 0 pages to 8000 iin an unnatural time scale .

        IIs there a module which would allow you to run the code from an ad platform such as OpenX? I ask this because I'm not overly keen on Amazon etc, I would like to run CPA offers in many cases and I like to rotate them , for this I need to run an ad server.

        I notice you have included a full Adsense theme based on Xfactors work, sounds, good, there was a theme made for it by a Warrior some time back, which I have used with some success of late, one of the nice features it had was that you could add some code in a widget and it then displayed the relevent add on to every page on your blog, can WP Mage do something similar to make it easy to add my choice of ads asa opposed to Amazon, Clickbank etc.

        Does WP-Mage offer functionality along the lines of mass plugin installation, similar to firepow, ie install a new plugin but to 100 blogs at once ?

        Sure I may have more questions but there's a few to start with.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolf29
          Greg, I watched the video with you and George and it looks very interesting, but wanted to know how long have you been using your own system? My main concern is the duplicate content issue. Changing some words around, and in some cases they don't make sense, concerns me. Have you checked some of your posts against copyscape?

          Thanks for posting here to answer questions.

          Jay
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          • Profile picture of the author willystyle
            It is fun reading this forum to see what everyone has to say about Wordpress Mage. I would love to find something that would truly be automated and work.

            The $800 price tag is a little steep. What was the price for the WSO?
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

          Hi Greg, here's a few constructive questions for you, give George a hello from me as I'm guessing he's sat next to you watching this unfold.

          I wouldn't ideally want every blog installed on the same IP, same hosting area, do you enter some FTP details somewhere to allow it to install into different locations?
          You install CPMAGE on a single IP and then it creates as many sites as you like there. You can just use differnt hosts/IPs for other installs of CPMAGE (you have unlimited)

          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post


          Is there functionality within the s/w to have the home page of the blog left for manual editing with internal pages being automated ?
          We recommend this. Set a PAGE to static to guard against manual reviews (who most of the time only look at the homepage

          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post


          Do you retain any hooks into any of the sites built with WP mage from a technical perspective, by that I mean when the s/w is installed on the domain of our choice does it run entirely from that domain or does it make any calls to a central server ?
          Best answer I can give is that for all intensive purposes it functions as a standalone. Hope that is satisfactory.

          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post


          If you're only selling 500 copies of this, seems like a small return for such a big investment, is there no recurring fees at all for development, upgrades, support etc?

          Do you feel Google may well start looking for a WP Mage footprint I doubt it will be hard for Google to see sites made with the s/w ?

          On your sales site it says make 100 sites with 8000 pages each , that is a huge amount of thinly duplicated content, in addition do you think Google will have an issue with a site going from 0 pages to 8000 iin an unnatural time scale .
          There are different strategies for populating mage sites. We have numerous thread in our internal forums discussing the various ways. And I have huge amounts of my own testing data. (which is still inconclusive)

          though the summary is that if Google already 'trusts' a site then it is more or less ok. Its just a matter of building that trust (or getting domains with it)

          Without that trust we have roadmaps for adding posts in bursts


          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post


          IIs there a module which would allow you to run the code from an ad platform such as OpenX? I ask this because I'm not overly keen on Amazon etc, I would like to run CPA offers in many cases and I like to rotate them , for this I need to run an ad server.
          we use a plugin that can put in whatever code you need wherever you need it. so yes.


          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post


          I notice you have included a full Adsense theme based on Xfactors work, sounds, good, there was a theme made for it by a Warrior some time back, which I have used with some success of late, one of the nice features it had was that you could add some code in a widget and it then displayed the relevent add on to every page on your blog, can WP Mage do something similar to make it easy to add my choice of ads asa opposed to Amazon, Clickbank etc.
          This is %100 developed inhouse. Never seen before
          We have an color picker/changer , inline header upload and auto-inserting of adsense code creating the recommended blocks and a few other tricks

          it blows away anything else.

          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post


          Does WP-Mage offer functionality along the lines of mass plugin installation, similar to firepow, ie install a new plugin but to 100 blogs at once ?

          Sure I may have more questions but there's a few to start with.
          You can bundle your own plugins in with your installer package if that is your question.

          And btw... just to note. MAGE is all Hosted by you. Unlimited installs on unlimited domains as long as you own them all. No limits.


          Whew.... that was alot of questions. Hope I got them all

          -Greg
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          • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
            Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

            You install CPMAGE on a single IP and then it creates as many sites as you like there. You can just use differnt hosts/IPs for other installs of CPMAGE (you have unlimited)

            Whew.... that was alot of questions. Hope I got them all

            -Greg
            Yeah I think so thanks Greg, how easy is it to install CPMAGE, I know you include one installation yourself but I wouldn't think it's wise to install dozens of these sites on to the same IP so I'm thinking spread it around a little, is it relatively easy to upload to a different hosting account myself?

            I wasn't 100% clear on your statement about whether it makes a call to a central server either, could clarrify that either way, what I'm asking is there any communication at all between my copy of WP Mage on my server and anything of yours , is it 100% autonomous ?
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            • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
              Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

              I wasn't 100% clear on your statement about whether it makes a call to a central server either, could clarrify that either way, what I'm asking is there any communication at all between my copy of WP Mage on my server and anything of yours , is it 100% autonomous ?
              When you set up your Mage plugins it will check your license ... you don't need to be connected to Greg's server to operate the mage, though.
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              • Profile picture of the author Berticus
                Can the WPmage be unintstalled at a later time while leaving the blog and its contents intact? I believe removing it from the website would mean that the blog itself becomes a salable product all on its own...
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                • Profile picture of the author askloz
                  You can uninstall it from your mage hosting account that will create the other sites for you...

                  but why would you want to do that? to flip the site? fair enough I guess... but if you do that, then you wont be able to create any more sites.

                  Greg has thought of this already, but at current, its not advisable because a few elements can cause some plugins not to work correctly because it needs mage installed on the main website hosting creation account.

                  Greg is going to work on a mage-site-flipper plugin that allows you to keep mage installed on your main account and suspend, or even perhaps allow the site to build over time. the details i dont know fully yet, since he's still working on some ideas.

                  but for now, leave mage installed, build your site empire first.

                  Originally Posted by Berticus View Post

                  Can the WPmage be unintstalled at a later time while leaving the blog and its contents intact? I believe removing it from the website would mean that the blog itself becomes a salable product all on its own...
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                • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
                  Originally Posted by Berticus View Post

                  Can the WPmage be unintstalled at a later time while leaving the blog and its contents intact? I believe removing it from the website would mean that the blog itself becomes a salable product all on its own...
                  Hi Berticus,

                  You can uninstall WPmage from any site at any time. The content, once loaded, will remain. It is my understanding, however, that the products will no longer be on your site.

                  You can sell your blog without the mage plugins (until Greg adds the "flippable" license). If you're like most mage's however, you will discover it is much more lucrative to keep the site.

                  Linda
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            • Profile picture of the author twinmom
              Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

              Yeah I think so thanks Greg, how easy is it to install CPMAGE, I know you include one installation yourself but I wouldn't think it's wise to install dozens of these sites on to the same IP so I'm thinking spread it around a little, is it relatively easy to upload to a different hosting account myself?
              Simon, CPMage is very easy to install and Greg's documentation is top-notch. My 12yo son set up a new hosting account with CPMage for me a couple of days ago and didn't ask for any help - he was just using Greg's PDF.
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              • Profile picture of the author clarencechew
                Hi,

                Anyone can answer me what is the different if i using sub-domain for create mage website compare with to buy different domain name ? If i create few thousand of website, probably it will very costly just on domain name itself. Thanks.

                Regards,

                Clarence
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                • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                  Originally Posted by clarencechew View Post

                  Hi,

                  Anyone can answer me what is the different if i using sub-domain for create mage website compare with to buy different domain name ? If i create few thousand of website, probably it will very costly just on domain name itself. Thanks.

                  Regards,

                  Clarence
                  The term 'subdomain' get confused. Not to get into technicalities, What we mean in practice is add-on domain which basically means its a domain. But it is configured different.

                  You can in theory do real subdomains as you like. Though that strategy will have to be researched.
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                  • Profile picture of the author clarencechew
                    Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

                    The term 'subdomain' get confused. Not to get into technicalities, What we mean in practice is add-on domain which basically means its a domain. But it is configured different.

                    You can in theory do real subdomains as you like. Though that strategy will have to be researched.
                    Thanks Greg for your instant replied. Subdomains or add-on simply means that I just bought a domain for example clarencechew.com and create multiple website like clarencechew.com/weightloss, clarecechew.com/dogtraining, etc to create my multiple mage sites. Is it practical to do in this manners ? How to configure differently if i used this type of strategy ? Thanks.

                    Clarence
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  • Profile picture of the author cgallagher93
    Greg,

    Fair enough. On the other hand, I still don't think it's worth $797 not by a longshot, and don't think you really addressed my questions properly.

    I'm certainly not a hater as you call it. It's called constructive critcism or in this case, constructive questionism (is that even a word?)

    Just trying to unearth the details...

    Connor
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      Originally Posted by cgallagher93 View Post

      Greg,

      Fair enough. On the other hand, I still don't think it's worth $797 not by a longshot, and don't think you really addressed my questions properly.

      I'm certainly not a hater as you call it. It's called constructive critcism or in this case, constructive questionism (is that even a word?)

      Just trying to unearth the details...

      Connor
      Constructive anything is welcome.

      You can assemble together your own collection of scripts and processes and approximate the same thing. Its actually how i used to have it before putting together in a more easy to use package.

      So is it worth the investment?
      It just depends if you use it to its potentiality.
      If so then yes absolutely. It will save you years and months of gathering together piecework processes.

      If you already have your system down pat and it earns and works for you then you would have to investigate deeper.

      Re: your earlier comment about thailand. I have lived here for about 8 years because it is a nice place to be. that is all there is to it. You can and come visit too.
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  • Profile picture of the author willystyle
    what type of software will you have coming out Loz?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    Would Mage work ok with Bluehost or will I have to change my hosting service? I heard that Mage doesn't work well with some of hosting services out there.

    Also do you think I can get into profit within about 4 weeks or so (I am looking at a $500+ mark for the first month) or will that take longer? I know the feedback here does say the first month is very mediocre but I am just wondering what my chances are of a $500 first month?
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    • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
      I would say it's unlikely to make $500 your first month. And that's purely because it takes Google that long often to find and index your posts. I have a couples sites that are only 6 days old, and they've gotton a couple clicks, but even that is pretty fast.

      I have about 70 sites up now, over about 6 weeks, and I'm not making $500/month yet. Well, maybe this month. It's still young. I made around $25 yesterday, and I think I'll make $30 today. As long as the $$ continues to increase, I'm thrilled.

      That money, of course, is mostly coming from my earlier sites. It just takes a little time.

      But there's nothing faster than the Mage. If you want to play the numbers game, this is the best tool for it in my opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author bdegrossa
        Can someone knowledgeable about Mage talk to why it takes so long to get indexed? I launched two Sniper sites last week and it took only 2 and 3 days to get indexed. I'm already getting 10 hits per day on a very, very targeted and low traffic terms. I bookmarked one site and didn't bookmark the other.

        Also, is there anything like the XML Sitemaps plugin built into Mage?

        I'm also interested in the question re Bluehost that was just posted by someone else.

        Thanks,

        Becky
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        • Profile picture of the author askloz
          it's nothing to do with mage, or any software for that matter, all sites take about on avg 2-3 days to be indexed if you dont do anything...

          to speed things up, go to mixx.com and digg.com and bookmark 2-3 pages over a course of say 20-60 minutes (dont make it look like your spamming), and run a ror.xml file to your websites page headers, or grab the rss feed from your site and submit it out to rss feed directories. and they'll be indexed in about 12-24hrs, but the site will disappear for a bit then come back.

          Originally Posted by bdegrossa View Post

          Can someone knowledgeable about Mage talk to why it takes so long to get indexed? I launched two Sniper sites last week and it took only 2 and 3 days to get indexed. I'm already getting 10 hits per day on a very, very targeted and low traffic terms. I bookmarked one site and didn't bookmark the other.

          Also, is there anything like the XML Sitemaps plugin built into Mage?

          I'm also interested in the question re Bluehost that was just posted by someone else.

          Thanks,

          Becky
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      • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
        Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

        I would say it's unlikely to make $500 your first month. And that's purely because it takes Google that long often to find and index your posts. I have a couples sites that are only 6 days old, and they've gotton a couple clicks, but even that is pretty fast.

        I have about 70 sites up now, over about 6 weeks, and I'm not making $500/month yet. Well, maybe this month. It's still young. I made around $25 yesterday, and I think I'll make $30 today. As long as the $$ continues to increase, I'm thrilled.

        That money, of course, is mostly coming from my earlier sites. It just takes a little time.

        But there's nothing faster than the Mage. If you want to play the numbers game, this is the best tool for it in my opinion.
        Hi folks,

        Can I ask you, how many posts per site on average have you generated?

        70 sites, $35 a day is, and I don't intend this to sound derogatory but a flat out awful return, however I guess this could be down to the monetizing of the sites etc, but I put up 8 small sites for a friend in a gaming niche a couple of weeks ago that are already generating nearly 3 x that a day from 8 sites..

        Just makes me concerned as to how Google is indexing these sites, indexing should be short and sweet, there's no requirement what so ever for it to take weeks on end unless Google doesnt' like something , if all's ok you should be indexed and ranking fine unless you're choosing hard to rank long tails.

        My fear i think is will Google see WP Mage's footprint a mile away and users see issues.

        Unfortunately as this is such early days it's impossible to tell.

        *hovers over buy button * :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
          Why are you hovering over the buy button when you can obviously do much better building sites the way you have been. If you can build 8 sites and make over $100 a day within a couple of weeks why are you even contemplating buying this system?


          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

          Hi folks,

          Can I ask you, how many posts per site on average have you generated?

          70 sites, $35 a day is, and I don't intend this to sound derogatory but a flat out awful return, however I guess this could be down to the monetizing of the sites etc, but I put up 8 small sites for a friend in a gaming niche a couple of weeks ago that are already generating nearly 3 x that a day from 8 sites..

          Just makes me concerned as to how Google is indexing these sites, indexing should be short and sweet, there's no requirement what so ever for it to take weeks on end unless Google doesnt' like something , if all's ok you should be indexed and ranking fine unless you're choosing hard to rank long tails.

          My fear i think is will Google see WP Mage's footprint a mile away and users see issues.

          Unfortunately as this is such early days it's impossible to tell.

          *hovers over buy button * :-)
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          • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
            Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

            Why are you hovering over the buy button when you can obviously do much better building sites the way you have been. If you can build 8 sites and make over $100 a day within a couple of weeks why are you even contemplating buying this system?

            I'l explain it for you Steve.

            Just because you can manually build 8 sites with unique content in a considerably longer period and make more revenue than one person is quoting from their results, doesn't negate the fact that there's a huge benefit to being able to build a vast number more in half the time. There's also no reason to believe unless there are issues with indexing that a greater revenue stream could be eaked from the WP Mage sites, so while this tiny comparisom between the different approaches is intriguing, it doesn't take away from the benefits the WP Mage program brings to the table.

            Of course you were just being a smart arse for some reason, got any more attitude to serve up for no benefit whatsoever or just bored ?

            Can't think why good threads go bad on this forum sometimes, just no need whatsoever for your post, none, as if comparing results, somehow makes it impossible for you to look at other avenues.
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            • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
              Whoa there with the sense of humour breakdown.. It was a simple question that's all. Sheesh! I was merely pointing out that you can obviously make a lot more money using the manual approach than by creating a bunch of trashy automated sites that will only last a few nanoseconds in the search engines.

              Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

              I'l explain it for you Steve.

              Just because you can manually build 8 sites with unique content in a considerably longer period and make more revenue than one person is quoting from their results, doesn't negate the fact that there's a huge benefit to being able to build a vast number more in half the time. There's also no reason to believe unless there are issues with indexing that a greater revenue stream could be eaked from the WP Mage sites, so while this tiny comparisom between the different approaches is intriguing, it doesn't take away from the benefits the WP Mage program brings to the table.

              Of course you were just being a smart arse for some reason, got any more attitude to serve up for no benefit whatsoever or just bored ?

              Can't think why good threads go bad on this forum sometimes, just no need whatsoever for your post, none, as if comparing results, somehow makes it impossible for you to look at other avenues.
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              • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
                Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

                Whoa there with the sense of humour breakdown.. It was a simple question that's all. Sheesh! I was merely pointing out that you can obviously make a lot more money using the manual approach than by creating a bunch of trashy automated sites that will only last a few nanoseconds in the search engines.
                Oops, indeed , sorry Steve I entirely misread the tone and inflection of your post - unreserved apology.
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        • Profile picture of the author twinmom
          Originally Posted by SimonHarrison View Post

          Hi folks,

          Can I ask you, how many posts per site on average have you generated?


          Just makes me concerned as to how Google is indexing these sites, indexing should be short and sweet, there's no requirement what so ever for it to take weeks on end unless Google doesnt' like something , if all's ok you should be indexed and ranking fine unless you're choosing hard to rank long tails.
          Hi Simon and all,
          I know the offer is closed now, but thought I would give a little input on your questions for when the Mage is available again.

          I have given 100% to at least 3 other very popular courses here on WF in recent months, and honestly, was unsuccessful with all. I'm not saying those programs don't work, they just didn't work for me. The thing that I found discouraging with other systems is that I would pour heart and soul into a site, tweaking, testing, etc. and when it didn't produce results, that led to a lot of time lost. I am not doing IM full-time (yet) and only get a couple of good IM work hours a day after the kids are in bed. Although that would probably be more if I would stay off the forums.

          I have the Master Mage membership. I aim for creating an average of 1 site an evening. More than that in a couple of hours is very do-able, but I just choose to do one usually. Typically, I have 1000-3000 posts per site. I don't do any backlinking, article marketing, etc. When I first started Maging, I did use SENuke with my sites, but it really didn't seem to make much of a difference, so now, I just leave them alone.

          As far as the indexing, the sites do get indexed quickly, but what Mages are looking for is lots of pages indexed, not just the main page. Mage sites thrive on individual post pages being indexed, not necessarily the home page. My sites generally start by having a few pages indexed and then that number will climb over the next month or so. Not all pages get indexed.

          I've been very pleased with the results I'm seeing. I've made more than 3x the price of the mage already, and I can only imagine if I were doing it full time.
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      • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
        I'll chime in again. I've had the Mage for a few months now, and my earnings continue to increase. This week I had two record days. One at $99 for ebay, and one at $30 for adsense alone. I'm one of those who gets most of my mage income from ebay. But then again, most of my sites are epn sites.

        Here's my idea of why the epn sites do so well... The ebay ads themselves are great content for the search engines. The titles of the auctions are somewhat unique and the ads change, so I think the ebay sites just get more google love.

        And I think this would be true whether you use the mage or not. I think any site with ebay ads would have a leg up.

        So, my idea for those of you who do not yet have an epn account... put ebay ads on your sites anyway just for the google love! Put them at the bottom. If someone does click on them, you wont' get paid, of course, but you'll get more traffic just by their presence. Just put a few. Put your main monetization method at the TOP of the posts, whether it's amazon, adsense, cpa or whatever.

        The mage is just a tool that builds websites super fast. And it makes it easy to monetize those websites. I mean, super fast and super easy. What I described above is a more advanced mage technique. You can make great money with it "right out of the box." But you can do many many more fancy things with it, to put it simply.
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        • Profile picture of the author Vinod Kumar Jadge
          Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

          I'll chime in again. I've had the Mage for a few months now, and my earnings continue to increase. This week I had two record days. One at $99 for ebay, and one at $30 for adsense alone. I'm one of those who gets most of my mage income from ebay. But then again, most of my sites are epn sites.

          Here's my idea of why the epn sites do so well... The ebay ads themselves are great content for the search engines. The titles of the auctions are somewhat unique and the ads change, so I think the ebay sites just get more google love.

          And I think this would be true whether you use the mage or not. I think any site with ebay ads would have a leg up.

          So, my idea for those of you who do not yet have an epn account... put ebay ads on your sites anyway just for the google love! Put them at the bottom. If someone does click on them, you wont' get paid, of course, but you'll get more traffic just by their presence. Just put a few. Put your main monetization method at the TOP of the posts, whether it's amazon, adsense, cpa or whatever.

          The mage is just a tool that builds websites super fast. And it makes it easy to monetize those websites. I mean, super fast and super easy. What I described above is a more advanced mage technique. You can make great money with it "right out of the box." But you can do many many more fancy things with it, to put it simply.
          Hi Amy and Linda,

          Thanks for your reviews, I would really appreciate if you could tell how this product is different from the WP ROBOT 2.0 mentioned in the WFO.
          I know that as the price mentioned and the capabilities of WP mage, it's something that can really pumpup your account, traffic and everything related to IM.
          But most of warriors like me, who can't afford this product and already using WP ROBOT 2.0. Is it a good idea to use both of these products at the same time.

          Thanks,
          Kind regards,
          Vinod Kumar jadge
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          • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
            I used the old version of wprobot, amazon autoposter, and it worked nicely! Those sites continue to rank and get some traffic. But I haven't used their whole package, so it's hard to compare exactly. I'll try to tell what I think is different or better about the mage, but please correct me if I'm wrong about any of the wp robot features.

            WPMage actually builds the entire site. You don't have to do an addon domain or anything in cpanel once it is installed. It creates the contact page, privacy and TOS pages, all configured. It installs AND configures other plugins like all in one seo, robots, site map, etc. I don't THINK wp robot does those things.

            As far as content generation and pulling ads, I think they are similar. But for me, the time savings from creating the ENTIRE site so much faster is wonderful. I also believe wpmage is more configurable if you want to play with the advanced features. You have control over much more.

            I'm sure there are more differences that are not coming to mind right now.

            As far as ROI.. indeed I have spent a lot of money on domains and hosting. I now have a dedicated server for around $200/month. I have around 150 expired domains that cost me around $15 each. The rest are just cheap .info's for $1. But I'm making a steady $1600/month and this month is on track for $2000, so I'm happy.

            I know google has deindexed some of my domains, maybe around 20. However some of those are getting traffic still. Must be yahoo and Bing. I know you all want more specific numbers, but I just don't spend my time checking stats and deinidexing. I have 3 kids 3 and under and try to spend my time building instead. I DO however, check my money stats... those are my favorite!

            I met some other mages in Thailand last month who have less sites than me and making significantly more money than me. We each do things a little differently. Linda, for example, is awesome. She takes a little extra time and crafts a beautiful mage site that will stick in google and seo'd to the max. I'm lazy and impatient and just build fast. Both approaches are good. You can do things however you want.

            If you can't afford the mage, then it's obviously not an option for you. But if you can afford it and are looking for a way to build microniche affiliate sites huge and fast, then it's great.
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            • Profile picture of the author johnny_h
              Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

              As far as ROI.. indeed I have spent a lot of money on domains and hosting. I now have a dedicated server for around $200/month. I have around 150 expired domains that cost me around $15 each. The rest are just cheap .info's for $1. But I'm making a steady $1600/month and this month is on track for $2000, so I'm happy.
              amy,

              thanks for the good info - I was wondering if you use the used domains like the system suggests or if you just buy fresh ones?

              Also, a few posts up a guy mentions that he had some trouble getting an epn membership - I know there's a guide included for setting up & improving your chances of getting approved - did you follow those instructions to get approved?

              thanks
              johnny
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Bluehost does not work for using CPMage, but it will work for installing WPMage. The difference is that CPMage will install multiple sites from one backend. WPMage package installs the Mage on one site at a time. It's still fully loaded, just takes a little longer.

    I got that information from the Mage forums. I haven't personally tried it on BlueHost. Apparently, it's the same situation with HostMonster.

    Oh, and yes, it comes with sitemaps configured, robots.txt, allinone seo pack, etc. All configured.
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  • Profile picture of the author bdegrossa
    Thanks, Amy. Do you know why so long to get indexed? Seems like it doesn't take much to get a site indexed in a couple of days, anymore.

    Becky
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    Linda, Greg said it's still not advisable - im on skype now with him.

    Its complicated with content mage
    [7:42:02 PM] Greg Jacobs: because it doesnt load the content until the first page load
    [7:42:26 PM] Greg Jacobs: so we are working on a solution and want to sell it as a sperate license/plugin
    [7:42:42 PM] Greg Jacobs: basicly right now if you remove the plugins, the sites may not work right
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    • Profile picture of the author Berticus
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      Linda, Greg said it's still not advisable - im on skype now with him.
      Ah, thank you for that. So testing would have to be done. Understandable.

      Thank you as well, Linda.
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Yes, that is correct. However, while not advisable, it is still doable after the content is loaded.

      Cheers,
      Linda
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      • Profile picture of the author askloz
        heehe, not gonna argue with ya, just telling ya what he said to me... "problems may occur with the plugins". so I think if he says not advisable, dont do it.

        Originally Posted by Linda Van Fleet View Post

        Yes, that is correct. However, while not advisable, it is still doable after the content is loaded.

        Cheers,
        Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Cheah
    Hi Greg

    Is there any future free updates?

    Don't see any answers from you concerning
    this area.

    Please comment.



    Yours sincerely

    Richard Cheah
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      Greg's been awake for about 27hrs, he's knackered, so he wont be able to answer your Q's right now... any Mage members can submit support ticket to his other guy who's helping out.

      Originally Posted by Richard Cheah View Post

      Hi Greg

      Is there any future free updates?

      Don't see any answers from you concerning
      this area.

      Please comment.



      Yours sincerely

      Richard Cheah
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      not quite sleeping yet...

      Future free update? You get lifetime access to Wordpress Mage and all future updates of this version. (there may be upgrades offered at a later point, but they will be something completely different)



      Originally Posted by Richard Cheah View Post

      Hi Greg

      Is there any future free updates?

      Don't see any answers from you concerning
      this area.

      Please comment.



      Yours sincerely

      Richard Cheah
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      • Profile picture of the author Berticus
        To be completely honest, I dropped just under 1k for this... I am hoping this will provide the passive income I require.

        @askloz - As to a site empire: we'll see how many I can generate in two months on my off hours. You see, I'm a soldier and I deploy in January. Internet access is a dubious concern of mine at best and so continuations past my deployment date are also dubious, at best. Thus the passive income I require.
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        • Profile picture of the author askloz
          Originally Posted by Berticus View Post

          @askloz - As to a site empire: we'll see how many I can generate in two months on my off hours. You see, I'm a soldier and I deploy in January. Internet access is a dubious concern of mine at best and so continuations past my deployment date are also dubious, at best. Thus the passive income I require.

          You should be able to invest in 20 domains for approx $100 - $190, spend 5 minutes doing your keyword research with the tool Greg provides. Then compound your earnings on a new site.

          I've suggested quite a few improvements for Greg to work on, to increase the onpage seo factors, cos there's none present with mage right now...


          once incorporated, you'll see your rankings become more stable and heaps of indented listings.

          I'm running a few tests right now with it and will give Greg even more suggestions to make the rankings stick to the first page of google, yahoo, and msn.

          BTW, you be careful over there mate...
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        • Profile picture of the author Sid Kaplan
          Just wanted to thank you for your service as a soldier and offer my appreciation of your efforts

          Originally Posted by Berticus View Post

          To be completely honest, I dropped just under 1k for this... I am hoping this will provide the passive income I require.

          @askloz - As to a site empire: we'll see how many I can generate in two months on my off hours. You see, I'm a soldier and I deploy in January. Internet access is a dubious concern of mine at best and so continuations past my deployment date are also dubious, at best. Thus the passive income I require.
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  • Profile picture of the author oldwarrior
    I came here because of Georges recommendation for WP Mage. I respect his opinion but this is not something you buy for dinner at the supermarket. it affects your business.

    I had some questions after i saw the vid. The language quality I saw from the article on the Mage site in Georges video did not look good. English is not my native language but I read some text on the videoscreen that I guess potential customers would not be impressed with when they arrive on a site from someone they don't know. I could not make very much sense of it. But I only saw this little shot so maybe it is not all like that.

    I also had questions about the SEO. Another thing is that there is not much trackrecord.

    I always want to listen to others. So what is the verdict? I also read the other WP Mage thread on the forum and, especially Loz, makes some critical notes. I thank him for being this way because it is better to get it into the open now and not discover some issues later. After reading the threads it looks like there is a private discussion going on.
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  • Profile picture of the author powyoung
    I don't understand what everyone is complaining about? It's $27 a month through the regular non-Sniper link right? It's only $797 if you want to do an outright purchase. Firepow has similar functionality and costs $120/mo., but Mage looks like it does more.

    Granted you may get some dupe content penalties, but I've had some articles that I've posted that I've barely spun, probably less than 15% unique and have had 2-3 places in the top 10. A lot of your pages may not rank with this software, but you can crank out so many non-competitive long tail word pages that you should get a good number that do rank. For the keywords that do get lots of searches just make sure you have unique content. This seems like a no-brainer for me. Also he has a 60 day guarantee.
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  • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
    Greg , if you're still alive check your PM please.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I'll try to answer some questions. I base my answers on my experience so far, Greg's training, and other Masters' comments in the forum.

    I think the whole thing of Mage indexing has been misunderstood. I don't think it takes any longer for a Mage site to get indexed than any other. I don't check my indexing/stats every day on 70 sites. So my first notice of traffic to that 6 day old site was the first adsense click.

    Greg tells Mages don't expect to be making money for 3-4 weeks. That's where this "month to index" thing comes from, I think. Really, though, with aged domains, it can happen faster.

    When you have a site with 4,000 posts on it, it will take weeks for google to index the site fully. It starts as only a trickle of posts, and builds from there. So I think that fact that I got a click on a 6 day old site is pretty decent. Those 4,000 posts are built with such longtail keyword, they are likely not searched for often.

    This Mage game is a little different than what we're used to. I'm still wrapping my head around it. Highly searched for keywords are great, but I don't really care too much. If I can build a 4,000-post site in 10 minutes with 4,000 lesser searched for keywords, I'm pretty happy about that.

    Another thing I didn't make clear is that I have 70 sites, but they are not all 6 weeks old. Some I built this week. Yes, if this is all I ever make over 70 sites, I'll be dissapointed, and hope that's not the case. So far, every single day I'm getting more clicks, and more money. I don't check the traffic stats, much, like I said.

    Hmmmmmmm, what else? Let me know if you have more questions. I'm not an expert, so I hope I made sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    I personally think the software is worth a try. I mean, it does come with a 30 day money back guarantee and it does have the potential to deliver a very healthy long-term residual income. We invest hundreds on rubbish ebooks and other IM courses that don't get lead to anything anyway.

    I think George's material and his recommendations are worthwhile investments. We can obviously see the results. The testimonials speak for themselves. I missed my ticket this time because I was waiting until Monday for more feedback on the forum. Even if one website were to generate a $5 monthly income, if you can build about 50 sites a month each month, it would add up over time. I suppose you could build sites manually for the more lucrative niches to guarantee a higher conversion rate if the quality of the sites look rubbish.

    While on the topic, can anyone recommend me any other tools or programs that can genuinely generate a passive in a similar manner?

    Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author goingup
    How much do the aged domains cost each? Limited funds right now, and Id want to give the 30 day try it out period a good go.

    Is there an automated clickbank plugin(for quicker earnings?)

    How long does it take for ebay to pay you?

    If you are going to do the maximize the site thing that you can do, how much time does it take per site, or does it cost extra to do it? Or take technical ability?

    Are you going to be able to sell the sites in the future if you want to, to people who also have the software?

    So the cost is $597 (30 day money back guarantee) and than $27 a month?

    Can you build some for several months and get to a point where you dont want anymore, and cancel the memebership and keep your sites?

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      Originally Posted by goingup View Post

      How much do the aged domains cost each? Limited funds right now, and Id want to give the 30 day try it out period a good go.
      I think his site says from $5, via godaddy auctions.

      Originally Posted by goingup View Post

      Is there an automated clickbank plugin(for quicker earnings?)
      there's one in there I think.

      Originally Posted by goingup View Post

      How long does it take for ebay to pay you?
      monthly, check their terms.

      Originally Posted by goingup View Post

      If you are going to do the maximize the site thing that you can do, how much time does it take per site, or does it cost extra to do it? Or take technical ability?
      just a couple clicks, 3-5 mins top?

      Originally Posted by goingup View Post



      Can you build some for several months and get to a point where you dont want anymore, and cancel the memebership and keep your sites?

      thanks
      why would you want to cancel? that's like throwing money away.

      I have 1600+ sites, and still want to do more, there's no limit, more sites you have, more money you make.
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        • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
          I just recently signed up for the trial myself. Personally, Domain Mage is by far the most valuable tool. It's worth the $27 by itself, easily. With the other tools included in the basic package, Adept Mage is a no brainer.

          As for the big $600 WP Mage package, I'm going to use Caffeinated Content, which I already own. Invest the $600 in outsourcing fees instead.
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          • Profile picture of the author Victoria Gates
            Im sure his product is worth the almost $800 price tag it has right now but for someone like myself who only has maybe an extra $100 to $200 a month to apply to marketing.. it's just really too much...

            Greg maybe you could offer monthly installments of $199 for 4 months or something.

            Otherwise well... im building google sniper sites by hand for now. Perhaps I will have more than plenty in a few months.
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            • Profile picture of the author pandorabox
              Originally Posted by journeyforself View Post

              Im sure his product is worth the almost $800 price tag it has right now but for someone like myself who only has maybe an extra $100 to $200 a month to apply to marketing.. it's just really too much...

              Greg maybe you could offer monthly installments of $199 for 4 months or something.

              Otherwise well... im building google sniper sites by hand for now. Perhaps I will have more than plenty in a few months.
              Yes, I'm the same, this would interest me too.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Greg is best to answer these questions, but I think he's sleeping. If I'm off on anything, he'll correct me.

    As of right now, you can't resell the sites with the Mage plugins. Greg is working on a reseller license for the future.

    When you buy the Master Mage, you get lifetime access to the packages and plugins. You don't NEED the additional $27/month Adept Mage which is access to some tools.

    Yes, there is a clickbank plugin. I haven't tried it out yet.

    Not sure how of ebay payout policy.

    Buying one of the $5 expired .com's will cost you around $15 total. I bought a few, but then funds got limited, so now I'm buying .info's for $.89/each. They are doing fine so far.

    I can create a LARGE site in about 15 minutes, total, including the time to get the keywords, and for the site to load. Most of that is loading time, it only takes a couple minutes of actual clicking.

    Mind, you, though, that I'm doing this as quickly as possible. Other mages are tweaking their sites more, and one Mage is spending about an hour or two per site. His front pages probably look much better than mine, and may not get deindexed as quickly. I'm not as picky. Just want to make money quick, then will take my time later.

    Setting up the CPMage on your cpanel takes little bit of tech work, but Greg has a video and pdf with step by step and screenshots. Someone said his 12 year old did it just fine. Greg will do your first install for you.

    I'm not going to speak to the cost, I'm not sure.

    The only extra costs after the initial purchase would be:
    domains... $15 for good aged/expired, down to $.89 for .info's
    Hosting... You can get it as cheap as $8/month. You will likely use one hosting package for 20-30 websites.

    I can't think of any other costs. Well, the $27/month for the other Mage tools, which is not required, but helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    You don't get to keep the sites unfortunately. That's the only thing. And in a way the 30 day trial isn't long enough to see results according to many. But there doesn't seem to be any question about whether or not it has the potential to generate a residual income as it has already done that to many people. The price is $797 flat and no monthly subscriptions (unless there is a $597 deal that I am not aware of). The $27 monthly subscription is optional and will complement your purchase but for now the doors are closed for the software.

    I just have a feeling that this software will meet some stiff competition in the near future (as with any market). So no regrets there at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author oldwarrior
    Hi folks. I was wondering has anyone looked at the writing quality of the 2 times translated posts? I was a little bit afraid that potential visitors will click away.

    I read above that Loz has given Greg some tips for SEO improvement. Will that take long for him to implement? Can we do it ourselves (8000 posts...)?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Here's my thoughts on the translation...

    First, the most google-loved websites will always have original content, and provide great service to the visitor, I totally understand that.

    But, I don't have the time to create sites like that on a large scale.

    So... I'm content to load sites with scraped content using Mage.

    About the translation... My best sites have no translation at all. Just the original English article.

    Also, though, I don't honestly care much if the content is poor. I don't want people to read the content, I want them to click my ads. And the ads are what they are looking for. Most of my sites are product-based. So if someone was searching for a canon camera lens waterproof, they will see that ebay listing, which is exactly what they want.

    Definitely, the readability is poor when you translate the content. Sometimes, very poor.

    To overcome this, I am using a template that puts my ebay listings on the top of the page, so most visitors probalby won't even scroll down to the bottom and see the scraped content, anyway. If anyone wants that template, pm me. It just takes a couple more clicks to add it to your sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
      Presumably cp mage doesn't violate the rules when articles from ezine and the other directories are scraped. I assume they are left intact and are not translated back and forth.. Is that right?
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      • Profile picture of the author powyoung
        If you want an instant blog generating software like WPMage check out Firepow. They appear to be basically the same more or less. Can anybody using firepow confirm this?
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    • Profile picture of the author digidoodles
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      Also, though, I don't honestly care much if the content is poor. I don't want people to read the content, I want them to click my ads. And the ads are what they are looking for. Most of my sites are product-based. So if someone was searching for a canon camera lens waterproof, they will see that ebay listing, which is exactly what they want.

      Definitely, the readability is poor when you translate the content. Sometimes, very poor.

      To overcome this, I am using a template that puts my ebay listings on the top of the page, so most visitors probalby won't even scroll down to the bottom and see the scraped content, anyway. If anyone wants that template, pm me. It just takes a couple more clicks to add it to your sites.
      See Amy, this is where most people get all hung up-- perfection. The goal isn't "pretty". As a matter of fact, ugly sells. Ha.

      Warmly,

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      • Profile picture of the author mick535
        Originally Posted by digidoodles View Post

        See Amy, this is where most people get all hung up-- perfection. The goal isn't "pretty". As a matter of fact, ugly sells. Ha.

        Warmly,

        Brandi
        Ugly brings in more Adsense clicks than anything. People get to your site because of your content, but quickly click on a link to leave and find something better. It is a beautiful thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
          With all due respect, I have got to disagree with you on this. Ugly sites or sites with no valuable content on might get a click yes but more likely will result in the back button or "close window"..

          Far better to think in terms of reducing the number of exit points on a page (links) and selling the click through smart, well written copy..

          Sorry to take this thread off topic from wp mage. I see it is back on the market again BTW for google sniper customers.


          Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

          Ugly brings in more Adsense clicks than anything. People get to your site because of your content, but quickly click on a link to leave and find something better. It is a beautiful thing.
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          • Profile picture of the author mick535
            Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

            With all due respect, I have got to disagree with you on this. Ugly sites or sites with no valuable content on might get a click yes but more likely will result in the back button or "close window"..

            Far better to think in terms of reducing the number of exit points on a page (links) and selling the click through smart, well written copy..

            Sorry to take this thread off topic from wp mage. I see it is back on the market again BTW for google sniper customers.
            No worries. I have to tell you though. For over 3 years I made $50,000 per year in Just Adsense from Blog and Ping using Blogger Generator to create thousands of Blogger Blogs and RSS Evolution which made some of the worst looking money sites you will ever see. With my ads above the fold and in the right Sidebar they killed daily. I only wish Google hadn't gotten smart on it or I would still be doing it today. Every site I put tons of effort into didn't have near the conversions of those ugly sites. There is a hapy medium, don't get me wrong. They had templates and were "normal" sites, but it is a valid technique. Don't knock it till ya try it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
              Been there, done it, worn the T shirt and thankfully saw the light and realised what a waste of time and energy it is continually chasing after ways to buck the system with trashy, ugly, junky sites. Black hat, bluefart, whatever you want to call it, yes you can earn a few bucks for a while but it will only last for a while. A far far better strategy now is to build something that has a future.


              Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

              No worries. I have to tell you though. For over 3 years I made $50,000 per year in Just Adsense from Blog and Ping using Blogger Generator to create thousands of Blogger Blogs and RSS Evolution which made some of the worst looking money sites you will ever see. With my ads above the fold and in the right Sidebar they killed daily. I only wish Google hadn't gotten smart on it or I would still be doing it today. Every site I put tons of effort into didn't have near the conversions of those ugly sites. There is a hapy medium, don't get me wrong. They had templates and were "normal" sites, but it is a valid technique. Don't knock it till ya try it.
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              • Profile picture of the author mick535
                Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

                Been there, done it, worn the T shirt and thankfully saw the light and realised what a waste of time and energy it is continually chasing after ways to buck the system with trashy, ugly, junky sites. Black hat, bluefart, whatever you want to call it, yes you can earn a few bucks for a while but it will only last for a while. A far far better strategy now is to build something that has a future.
                Don't get me wrong. I agree with you completely. But they have their place in a world where it is best to diversify your portfolio.

                I promote and do a lot of Auto Blogging, but 90% of what I do is straight Affiliate marketing building websites just as you described. Google is too good to waste time on getting good domains slapped constantly. There are a lot of good Grey Hat ways to roll that are truly effective though.
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              • Profile picture of the author digidoodles
                Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

                Been there, done it, worn the T shirt and thankfully saw the light and realised what a waste of time and energy it is continually chasing after ways to buck the system with trashy, ugly, junky sites. Black hat, bluefart, whatever you want to call it, yes you can earn a few bucks for a while but it will only last for a while. A far far better strategy now is to build something that has a future.

                Earn Online Cash with Ugly Websites | Earn Online Cash

                This guy is quite successful. As is Greg Jacobs. The model of ugly works well, depending on what you are targeting.

                Adsense= ugly sites.

                Your ebook that you are trying to sell? Pretty.

                Ugly sells.

                Pretty Sells.

                Depends on what you are doing.

                Warmly,

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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Yes, you have to change your way of thinking a little when you use the mage. Mainly, you have to simplify. Ooooooh,that's tough.

    For example, we are so accustomed to making sure that our main keyword is in our domain name. Well, with Greg's method, that's not important. I bought one expired domain that has the absolute dumbest name ever, it's really quite funny. Loaded it up with completely unrelated ebay products, and it's one of my best performing sites! I get a chuckle out of how simple this is. Don't over-think!
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      Yes, you have to change your way of thinking a little when you use the mage. Mainly, you have to simplify. Ooooooh,that's tough.
      Amykay - you are so right on target here. That was my biggest hurdle when I first started with the Mage - getting over everything I had learned previously and realizing it wasn't necessary.
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      • Profile picture of the author digidoodles
        Originally Posted by twinmom View Post

        Amykay - you are so right on target here. That was my biggest hurdle when I first started with the Mage - getting over everything I had learned previously and realizing it wasn't necessary.
        It's funny that y'all say this.. because.. there is so much misinformation about seo and traffic out there.. and I read stuff and just kind of chuckle. There's no way I would actually bother correcting someone because it'd be to no advantage- they'd never believe it unless they tried it.

        Some myths die hard... or never at all

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        • Profile picture of the author rstmarketing
          Hi

          I am looking forward to having a go with WPM when it is re-released. Does anyone have any good tips to get started, and how to make a really good front page?

          Also can you add an aweber form?
          Can you add any CPA banners or a html banner code on front page or should the front page look as natural as possible.
          Can you add a link on the bottom of the template for the new FTC ruling earnings disclaimer.

          Thanks
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          • Profile picture of the author twinmom
            Originally Posted by rstmarketing View Post

            Hi

            I am looking forward to having a go with WPM when it is re-released. Does anyone have any good tips to get started, and how to make a really good front page?

            Also can you add an aweber form?
            Can you add any CPA banners or a html banner code on front page or should the front page look as natural as possible.
            Can you add a link on the bottom of the template for the new FTC ruling earnings disclaimer.

            Thanks
            It's based on wordpress, so anything you can do in wordpress, you can do in WPM. So to answer your question, yes, you can add any of those things.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulmac
    I am looking for plugins like this 1 linda will give it a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victoria Gates
    Wow he did make a payment plan. I got wpmage now.. Wish me well!
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    • Profile picture of the author phu
      I wander if I should take on the free 60 days trial at no cost then 27$ after a month, but does this include the whole features like buying it for 3 installments offered by george?
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  • Profile picture of the author Amir.S
    Hi just wanted to know from anyone who has brought wpmage, if there are any up sells?

    It is also a one time fee or is there an ongoing monthly fee to use the softwares?

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author FH
      Hi Amir;

      There were no upsells or monthly fees. In fact one of the 1st things they tell you is to cancel the $27 membership.
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      • Profile picture of the author Amir.S
        Originally Posted by FH View Post

        Hi Amir;

        There were no upsells or monthly fees. In fact one of the 1st things they tell you is to cancel the $27 membership.
        Thats great FH, thats for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author COLIN C
    hey now what about a newbie on his last legs if i buy this software it has to work for me i got google sniper last week and made some sites and got 2 sites the top of rankings so i need to push on and put some food on the table do you all reckon this can push me on the price is a bit steep
    and ASKLOZ seems to know the deal i cant afford to blow $800 just a little honesty would do it for me cheers for any advice
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  • Profile picture of the author RobWake
    Hi, new here and been following this thread from the start, I am quite keen on this system but would really like to see a site which has been put together with this system, even if it is one of the flops I just really want to see the end result / output of the system...anyone willing to share a URL?
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    • Profile picture of the author mick535
      Originally Posted by RobWake View Post

      Hi, new here and been following this thread from the start, I am quite keen on this system but would really like to see a site which has been put together with this system, even if it is one of the flops I just really want to see the end result / output of the system...anyone willing to share a URL?
      Check out my Video Review here: WP Mage Review: Taking Wordpress Auto Blogging to the Next Level

      I had to cloak the url because my website has the words black and the word hat in it and this forum automaticaly changes the links. It is not an affiliate link.

      In the video I show you the output of a site created with this system and I show you the entire Member Area of WP Mage so you can see all the tools inside. I was kind of rushed when I made it so excuse the lack of close ups in the video. It is in HD though so you can go full screen.
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      • Profile picture of the author askloz
        Liar, it is a affiliate link, you got affiliate links all over that thread!

        Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

        Check out my Video Review here:

        I had to cloak the url because my website has the words black and the word hat in it and this forum automaticaly changes the links. It is not an affiliate link.

        In the video I show you the output of a site created with this system and I show you the entire Member Area of WP Mage so you can see all the tools inside. I was kind of rushed when I made it so excuse the lack of close ups in the video. It is in HD though so you can go full screen.
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        • Profile picture of the author mick535
          Originally Posted by askloz View Post

          Liar, it is a affiliate link, you got affiliate links all over that thread!
          I did not lie, you just misunderstood me. There are affiliate links on the target page, yes. I tell everyone that on the page. The link I placed to the Review and Video is not an Affiliate Link. It is a link to my Blog.

          The Content of the Review and the Video provides exactly what was being asked for, an Inside Look at the Program and to see a site which has been created with WP Mage.

          What I said was that this was not a direct Affiliate link. It is a link to a page on my website. I was using a bit.ly link instead of a direct one since my website is called: (Black) - (Hat) -(Software)

          Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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          • Profile picture of the author askloz
            you're not allowed to promote links in a post with your affiliate link to it, or to a page that has affiliate links in it... that's what your signature file is for.

            Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

            I did not lie, you just misunderstood me. There are affiliate links on the target page, yes. I tell everyone that on the page. The link I placed to the Review and Video is not an Affiliate Link. It is a link to my Blog.

            The Content of the Review and the Video provides exactly what was being asked for, an Inside Look at the Program and to see a site which has been created with WP Mage.

            What I said was that this was not a direct Affiliate link. It is a link to a page on my website. I was using a bit.ly link instead of a direct one since my website is called: (Black) - (Hat) -(Software)

            Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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            • Profile picture of the author mick535
              Originally Posted by askloz View Post

              you're not allowed to promote links in a post with your affiliate link to it, or to a page that has affiliate links in it... that's what your signature file is for.
              No. The Rules as I just read them state that you may not post affiliate links here in the forum. It does not say anthing about the Sites people link to from here.

              Here: (sorry to those of you here for content on WP Mage)

              The rules for this section:

              7. No Affiliate Links - Sorry but if we allowed affiliate links in these reviews it would be a big ad forum within a few days instead of an unbiased review forum.

              There is also a rule about not promoting your own Products in these threads yet some people seem to do that regularly.

              5. No threads will be accepted if the owner of the product is posting their own product just so it gets advertised. We can tell, so please don't try it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Gee S
            I've seen the blueprint and it seems really cool. I guess it can be adapted in many ways.

            Greg, will there ever be an option to include CPA in this somehow? I know it wont happen any time soon, but could be a thought for future updates.
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            • Profile picture of the author askloz
              Originally Posted by MrEyeconic View Post


              Greg, will there ever be an option to include CPA in this somehow? I know it wont happen any time soon, but could be a thought for future updates.

              There's already Commission Junction in there. More are being added so I have been told and a new plugin that I recommended them to make, an incontent linking plugin, but needs some additional tweaks to make it a tad better, but it's the first draft of the plugin.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
        Sorry to go a little off topic but this is important.

        I can't stand Black Hats!
        I just don't trust them folks!!!
        I had a Black Hat Slither onto my server one time and he took
        every file that I had for my membership site and posted them openly
        on a Black Hat forum... It was a free for all... hundreds and hundreds of my membership products plucked away...

        Don't trust them folks!!!

        DANGER!!! DANGER!!! DANGER!!!
        RUN AWAY! GO AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!! RUN I SAY, RUN!!!
        DON'T LINK UP WITH ANY E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE!!!
        YOUR TREADING ON VERY DANGEROUS WATERS IF YOU DO!!!
        YOUR COMPUTER COULD BE SAVAGELY COMPROMISED!!!
        RUN I SAY,,, R-U-N!!!

        THEY ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED!!!!
        SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL OF THOSE YOU LOVE AND CARE ABOUT!!!

        RUN, RUN, RUN,,,
        THEY ARE VERY MALICIOUS AND DECEITFUL!!!
        THEY GAIN YOUR CONFIDENCE AND THEN SPRING THEIR TRAP!!!
        DANGER!!! DANGER!!! DANGER!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I don't think any of us will share our sites, for obvious reasons. If you contact Greg, he might share one of his.

    I think that WarriorCoupon is expired. It was part of Greg's WSO launch.

    The price today is $797 at once, OR $297 if you want to pay 3 installments.
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  • Profile picture of the author COLIN C
    OH WELL 4GET IT
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  • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
    This is good stuff!
    Thank You for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author f173030
    Hi Everyone, thank you for sharing. By following this thread and review. I have a better understanding on WP Mage now.
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  • Profile picture of the author earlt
    I have been sitting on the fence on this one, hard to do any real research on the product because it's so new.

    Wish more of the beta testers were able to give some feedback on this. Plus I'm wondering if without an Overstock or EPN affiliate program (denied by overstock, have not tried with EPN) will this still be worth it?

    Got a few hours left, but I'm thinking I'm going to jump on the bandwagon as it were..
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    • Profile picture of the author imnoob
      Hi Greg,

      is the wpmage offered to google sniper customers the whole, full mage software with no recurring payment? I ask because it seems there are different version, adept mage, master mage, wp mage. I'm confused...
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    • Profile picture of the author earlt
      Originally Posted by CoolAromas View Post

      there was a post on the first page that someone said they are a beta tester. Check him out.
      Yes, I have read the whole thread, and I believe the first poster was a she ;-)

      I think approx 3 or 4 people have stepped up to give their thoughts-I'm guessing there was more than that who beta tested?
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      • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
        Originally Posted by earlt View Post

        Yes, I have read the whole thread, and I believe the first poster was a she ;-)

        I think approx 3 or 4 people have stepped up to give their thoughts-I'm guessing there was more than that who beta tested?
        Yep, I'm a *she*. There were around 30 beta testers and some have chimed in on this "wpmage review thread" - although it seems to have taken many twists and turns since I started it. I just wanted to share my thoughts on the mage ... I'm not an affiliate and haven't profited at all from the review. It's a great program -- for me. It's not for everyone and some will not like it at all. That's because we're all different and have different needs.

        And that's why Greg offers a guarantee of satisfaction.

        Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author Russell Hall
    I really like the Mage system and Kudos to Greg for creating the software and for putting the forum together. The 60 trial offer really is terrific and very worthwhile joining. Of course some trial members will continue with the membership (at the Adept level) once the trial has ended, and some will be poised to invest in the full Mage system once it gets re-released down the track (I'm assuming that it'll be a "when" rather than an "if" ,..even if it is in moderation). But having said that, I do feel that it is extremely generous of Greg to open the doors to his system and in doing so he has shared everything... all the videos and the pdf reports of which a lot of effort has gone into. Added to that is the free Affiliate-Mage tool that he really didn't need to give away but chose to in what seems to be a genuinely gregarious spirit.

    I've decided I'm not going to pursue becoming a full Mage at this stage (hey that rhymes!), because I'm more focused on other projects which includes following through with my plans in implementing the Sniper system. Although George has acknowledged that there can be some distinct and profitable benefits from "pimping" Sniper sites and packing them out with hundreds of other long tail phrases,.. I tend to think that it could also water down the laser focused sniper impact that a simple site focused on a single keyword phrase can have. Having said that, I will definitely set up several (OK maybe 20 or 30) Mage-istic sites using current autoblogging tools I have which whilst not offering the full scope of features that Mage has they still have the basic elements that can go a long way to populate blogs with decent content that I'd probably hand tweak as well,.. plus I can incorporate the free Mage Affiliate plugin that Greg has so kindly and generously made available.
    For me, in being very adept with systems admin and Wordpress it doesn't pose any challenge to me to set up blogs on multiple sites and/or servers because I have done so many of them and have designed a sweet little flash upload script that cuts down my time in doing the setups.
    Having said that,.. I think that for anyone that perhaps doesn't have that hands on experience and skills or maybe they'd just like to save a stack of time automating the whole thing and intend on setting up dozens and dozens of these site then I can understand the investment which can be justified or at least ratified against a time & motion model.

    I'd have to agree that the price tag does seem a little hefty but at least it is somewhat more manageable being split into three payments. It seems quite clear from reading in the Mage forum that there are many full Mage members that are really getting a lot out of this system and even in the early stages seem to be showing promising results,.. both in monetary returns and in increased levels of self confidence and enthusiasm to move forward with their IM dreams and objectives. The thing is that from a software point of view, there really isn't anything else that's directly available that will do everything that Greg's software will do,.. plus I do appreciate the fact that he's selling a system and along with that comes full and direct support from him personally,- that's a lot more hands on and productive than many "gurus" have come forward with previously and at the same time charged $1997 for their systems that look fine in theory but in practice they fall way short of the mark.
    Anyway,.. sorry for the longer than intended post but I just thought I'd make a point of saying that I think Greg is a genuine guy who's put a lot of work into this software and system, and also has given guys such as me a chance of road testing it and using his information and free Mage affiliate system. I think that's awesome,- sincere thanks there Greg!
    For anybody that's kind of floundering or at a loss to get stuck into something,.. I'd say that Mage is really worth having a run with because if you are focused and committed I can't see how you could not at least turn this into a passive monthly money spinner that could range from several hundreds of dollars to several thousands of dollars.
    Best wishes to all that decide to get stuck into this Mage system one way or another, and looking forward to hearing some of the success stories down the track.
    Russ
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  • Profile picture of the author earlt
    Thanks for your response Linda.

    I hope I did not offend you, my response was to CoolAromas comment "Check him out."

    Anyway, I decided to jump on board and am quite busy reading/and viewing the info presented in the members area. I tried to do whatever due diligence I could, but ultimately it was a bit of a 'gut' decision.
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    • Profile picture of the author mick535
      The WP Mage system isn't really any different than what I was already doing with my Auto Blogs. The main thing for me was the automation aspects of it. What I have found is that what used to take me a week or so, I now can get done in a day. 1 site per day is incredible and the amount of options on what kind of sites you create and what you promote is limitless.

      Greg has done a great job and as we have seen already, he is improving it almost daily.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
        Okay, I am not tech minded.
        I'm somewhat shy of getting this system and then not knowing how to use it to it's full advantage.

        Is there a way that I can get a baby system, just to make sure
        that it is not over my head?
        I heard of a $27 a month system but I don't know how to go about getting it,

        I could use that until I get advanced enough to go for the whole thing.
        I also heard that you don't get to keep or own the domains that you buy, not really sure
        what that was all about, I just saw it in another post...

        Does the $27 a month system come with full and complete video training?
        If so how do I get it and what is its name?

        Thanks for any feedback.
        EJ
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    You do get to keep your domains if you buy them. I don't know what you heard otherwise.

    To use the system, you would really have to buy the whole thing. Keep in mind that Greg has a 30 day money back guarantee. That's plenty of time to get in there, and see if you can do it.

    In the Mage forums, it looks like there are some newbies who are figuring it out just fine using Greg's step by step videos and instructions. Even the instructions have pictures.

    It's a tough call, I know. When I first bought it, I used the "quick and dirty" method. I just used the Mage package as is without any extra tweaking, and put up sites as quickly as it would let me. So basically, everything I needed to know was in Greg's training. You don't really have to do anything else at all.

    Bottom line, you are probably already advanced enough for the "whole thing." If someone thinks I'm wrong, and that it is tricky, please chime in.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    For the one time fee you get the package downloads that install the Mage sites.

    The monthly fee is for the adept mage membership which is optional. It includes tools that help you with you mage building like finding good expired domains, indexing, and getting keywords.

    Last I heard you cannot resell these sites. Greg is considering offering a reseller's license in the future, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
    I´m not using Greg´s Mage system yet, but I just wanted to say that I watched all the videos and read the Mage Blueprint and it looks like a great, fully-operating, complete system.

    I had a lot of questions and contacted Greg by email and he was very responsive and helpful. If this is any indication of the kind of service and support provided when buying his system, I have to say it's the best support I´ve ever seen anywhere, on or off-line.

    He´s already over-delivered even before buying and that has as much weight in my choice of purchasing anything as the product or service itself.

    Very impressive Greg and thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Someone asked about CPA. I am using these sites with CPA. On a small scale for now, but I intend to pursue it further. I mean, if I can get 4,000 weight-loss related keywords and spit out a site in a matter of minutes, and spend 2 more minutes to copy/paste an html cpa banner onto the top of each post... I may just be able to compete in the weight loss niche! Or ANY niche.

    Wow, that was a very long sentence.

    So, yes, think CPA.
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  • Profile picture of the author earlt
    I believe it closed again for now- it only reopened for 36 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author earlt
    I did not see any mention of price, only that it would re-open on the 23rd.
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  • Profile picture of the author pcgirl
    I determined recently that there is money to be made on the internet. So I have been reading and trying to learn everything there is to learn to be successful at this. I came across this review a couple of days ago and I have been glued to the videos ever since. This was exactly what I had been looking for. It all makes perfect sense and I am looking forward to really getting involved in the mage system. I think you are really on to something, Greg! I will be looking at the Adept Mage but I believe I would really like to get into the whole thing with the Wordpress Mage when you release it I will mark the date on my calendar and I will let you know how I do along the way!
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by pcgirl View Post

      I determined recently that there is money to be made on the internet. So I have been reading and trying to learn everything there is to learn to be successful at this. I came across this review a couple of days ago and I have been glued to the videos ever since. This was exactly what I had been looking for. It all makes perfect sense and I am looking forward to really getting involved in the mage system. I think you are really on to something, Greg! I will be looking at the Adept Mage but I believe I would really like to get into the whole thing with the Wordpress Mage when you release it I will mark the date on my calendar and I will let you know how I do along the way!
      Hi Pcgirl ...

      Come on in! The adept level will get you started and you'll already be on the inside learning all the automation tricks. A lot of people think the Adept Mage level is just for someone who can't afford the full mage package ... and that is certainly a wonderful solution if you don't have the money ... but they forget that Greg started without any of the tools ... he did it all manually and then created the tools later. So, don't discount the adept level ... I'm thinking you can still use it to propel yourself to a nice Internet income.

      I will look for you in the mage forum. Please say hello.

      Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    pcgirl,

    Start reading and watching the videos within your adept mage mebership site. And read around the forums. Greg's system combines the goodies you've been reading about how to make money on the interent, and makes it FAST. That's the bottom line. It's so fast.

    You will love it. My advice is, as soon as you get your Master membership, build, build, build!
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  • Profile picture of the author huntingman
    I too will be joining on the 23rd. I was considering buying a couple of days ago, thought I better sleep on the idea as it's a lot of money, and woke up to find it closed!
    I'm building a few different sites at the minute using different models, long-term whitehats and some that I think resemble George's Sniper sites, and I think the WPMage approach could be great - especially as it's so scaleable!
    Look forward to getting involved.

    P.S. Just a quick question - Are you able to vary the templates of posts? I know you can custom design your own (to rearrange in what order different content appears on the page), but is there a function to vary the layout of different posts? Not a huge issue obviously... just curious as to how much the posts will look the same. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Yes, you have control of the layout when you build your Mage sites. There are choices built in. If you want to be more advanced, Greg teaches how to tweak the templates, to make it your own. With so many variables, you can easily create a template that none of the rest of us are using.

    Just FYI in Magespeak, template=layout.
    theme=well, theme.
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    • Profile picture of the author huntingman
      Thanks for the reply! Much appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author baldo
    Just stumbled on this but it's still not clear what costs are,
    One time fee 797 ,payment of 3xx 297 or or monthly 27 dollars.?

    Will adept and master only be available again on 23Nov?

    Rgds B
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I think adept is available now. The Master will not be available until November 23rd.

    The adept membership has lots of tools that compliment the Master. It's not required, but very helpful. It helps you find good expired domains, get plr articles, get indexed quickly and more.

    Does that make sense? I know it's become confusing.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      Why the sudden $200.00 price hike for the full mage???
      From $797.00 to $997.00 ?

      I do notice your edit above... Looks like the cats already out of the bag.
      I sure hope not.
      If that is the case, I will probably have to take a pass on something that I was really wanting.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
        I wonder if anyone knows if someone can not get approved by eBay or Overstock as
        a merchant/affiliate for their products, will the full mage package be of any value.
        I think that one might be quite bumbed out if they spent $1,000.00 and couldn't use the
        system.
        Does anyone know of any way around this issue?
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        • Profile picture of the author twinmom
          Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

          I wonder if anyone knows if someone can not get approved by eBay or Overstock as
          a merchant/affiliate for their products, will the full mage package be of any value.
          I think that one might be quite bumbed out if they spent $1,000.00 and couldn't use the
          system.
          Does anyone know of any way around this issue?
          There are so many more things that can be done with the Mage. Not only is there EPN and Overstock, there's Amazon, Adsense, Clickbank, CJ (with 2000 merchants). You can also put your own banners (CPA or others) in the WhyDoWork plug-in. Or as some mentioned - list building.

          Most of my Mage income does come from Ebay, but that is what I mainly promote, but I am seeing some other income streams as well.

          Tracy
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          • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
            This is the type of reply that I was hoping to hear.

            Thank You Tracy.
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        • Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

          I wonder if anyone knows if someone can not get approved by eBay or Overstock as
          a merchant/affiliate for their products, will the full mage package be of any value.
          I think that one might be quite bumbed out if they spent $1,000.00 and couldn't use the
          system.
          Does anyone know of any way around this issue?
          There are 2 things I can think of:

          1. Use a new email address. Sometimes this actually works.

          2. I think the WP mage affiliate section may give you tips on this, but I don't remember for sure.

          The best thing I can think of is to build a review site (a general one) for either affiliate programs or products, then when you try to sign up either you're a PPC affiliate with a budget of at least 1K or you use SEO, and your blog gets at least 25K visitors a month.
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  • Well, I've been testing Wordpress Mage for about a week, and I honestly can't believe how many tools there are; both for the actual wordpress setup AND in the members area.

    The plugins are pretty cool but here's my honest opinion of it:

    The plugins, while cool, only work (seemingly to me) on hosting companies that have Cpanelx on them, like HostGator and a few others.

    You may be able to use them without, only if you have the required settings initiated with your server - and most of these prerequisites already being ready on Cpanel type hosting.

    Now, the plugins themselves are pretty awesome. Truth is, I was only able to install these items on one blog that I already had (the rest are not on that type of hosting).

    Content mage was able to generate 150 pages in a few seconds, all containing content AND my affiliate links to various affiliate programs. It also made the posts based on the keywords I chose.

    If anyone knows or has used caffeinated content before, you would think it is similar to that, but better. More content, more affiliate programs, and best of all more versatility.

    As far as the members area tools go, that in and of itself is pretty awesome as well. You can search for bulk domains, they have free articles you can use, search for keywords and so on.

    Again, I haven't been able to implement this on a large scale, but I have seen an increase for the impressions of my affiliate programs since using it.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuccessMatrix
    oooooh - just another queston came into my mind.

    Does it make sense to create say 5 or 10 blogs for the SAME niche?? With exact same OR very similar targeted keywords??

    I mean, it is a numbers game, right?

    And I cannot think of a reason why it would do any harm of doing 5 blogs for the same micro niche?
    I assume the plug-ins soak in random articles, so the 2,000 blog posts will most probably NOT look totally identical on all blogs. Or am I wrong on that one??


    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
      Does anyone know if the Nov, 23rd release date will have a 3 payment installment option like the earlier releases?

      Has any of the Master Mages here actually created 100 sites yet and if so how are they doing?
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      • Profile picture of the author twinmom
        Originally Posted by Frank Tocco View Post


        Has any of the Master Mages here actually created 100 sites yet and if so how are they doing?
        I have 114.

        I'm quite pleased with how they are doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by RobertRusso View Post


      One question remains: What are we gonna do with the other 11 months?
      Why, we're all going to visit Greg in Thailand! I think I read on the Mage forum he is planning some kind of gathering of the mages.

      I can see us now ... all with our magic capes on sitting around the campfire (at the Hilton) talking about how much money we've conjured up with the Mage.

      Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      Build more sites until you hit the $1mil a year mark

      Originally Posted by RobertRusso View Post


      One question remains: What are we gonna do with the other 11 months?
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    • Profile picture of the author nordend
      I am quite dissapointed, in his intro video he spoke about he can't give the system for free dus to Hosting costs (DUHHH???) and will give a 2 month trial of the system since he is such a generous guy. So I entered my paypal info in the idea I would be able to download the famous mage plugins to try it out and got a free two months trial in the Mage system, just to get an automation blueprint and some video's. BUT all the usefull tools and plugins can't be downloaded. From what I understant a HUGE one time fee of 497$ will be charged to get access to thoe tools, but when???. This isn't serious, since if I forget to cancel my trial in between two month I will get nothing for 27 $ a month (unless a lousy discussion forum not worth the quality of the warriors forum)

      I guess the idea of full automation is a good one, but I would price this differently and only open doors when everything is already in place. This looks so lame.
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      • Profile picture of the author twinmom
        Originally Posted by nordend View Post

        I am quite dissapointed, in his intro video he spoke about he can't give the system for free dus to Hosting costs (DUHHH???) and will give a 2 month trial of the system since he is such a generous guy. So I entered my paypal info in the idea I would be able to download the famous mage plugins to try it out and got a free two months trial in the Mage system, just to get an automation blueprint and some video's. BUT all the usefull tools and plugins can't be downloaded. From what I understant a HUGE one time fee of 497$ will be charged to get access to thoe tools, but when???. This isn't serious, since if I forget to cancel my trial in between two month I will get nothing for 27 $ a month (unless a lousy discussion forum not worth the quality of the warriors forum)

        I guess the idea of full automation is a good one, but I would price this differently and only open doors when everything is already in place. This looks so lame.
        There are 2 different setups for the Mage system. One is the Adept Mage, which is the free trial and then $27 a month. This includes much more than the blueprints and the forums. Adept Mage also includes the Affiliate Mage plug-in, which will post code to your hand-written posts for Amazon, EPN, CJ, Clickbank, etc. In addition to that, there are some other tools that are Mage server-based that are included - I know Domain Mage is one of them and possibly Keyword Mage and/or Article Mage. I'm not certain which are included in the Adept Mage membership.

        I've seen others comment that just one of the tools is worth far more than the $27 a month if you know how to use them.

        You can certainly still speed up your site-building with these tools.

        The Master Mage is the total automation tool, and yes it does costs more than the $27 a month. I'm not sure what the price is going to be when it rolls out again on Monday, but probably in the neighborhood of $997.

        Hope this helps clear up some of the confusion. Mage Master is really an amazing system. In 3 1/2 months, I've made far more than the cost of the system, yet I have it for life, so imagine the potential.

        Tracy
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        • Profile picture of the author michgil
          Seems like these packages are always priced out of the range of people that probably need them the most - especially in this economy.
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            • Profile picture of the author gheliucb
              this is going out to any of you implenting wp mage so far or even greg jacobs if he can answer it..


              i bought the mage system through jack friends list so im waiting for my echeck to go through. I used my financial aid money to purchase it. no one knows because i wanted to see if it will work for me and get my money out of it. Im a full time college student.

              I have two jobs working about 25-30 hours per week along with about 16 credits. Im always swamped with homework cause of work so i really wanted to find something where i can put time into but actually have a recurring income.

              I make about 700 a month to pay my own bills. Do you know how long it might take for me to be making that. By june perhaps? i just really wanted to know because im in a sticky situation where i need some financial freedom. People disregard the mage and some people really like it.i just want to know what your take is on it
              Also what your success has been on it if you dont mind me asking.

              i really thank you so much for you help.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
          3) If someone wanted to sell their websites which utilize a CPMage, I don't believe the license key is transferrable so all content created with the software would need to be removed first. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

          This is an email Greg sent me when I asked him this question-

          Greg,
          Can you sell the sites created with the mage in the future?


          Not right now. That will be a separate license.
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        • Profile picture of the author pennyjmay
          I don't post much on forums but feel compelled to add my tuppence worth to this discussion.

          I have read all the Mage site promotional and educational material and have a real feel for this product.

          The Adept mage tools in themselves are very good indeed. These alone will aid building sites very well and fast.

          However, what people seem to be looking for is a magic button to do IM without any effort or thought. This whole Mage product is, in my opinion, an excellent TOOL.

          You can use it to make what you already do a faster more efficient system.

          That alone is worth the $1000 price tag for the master mage product.

          Using this sensibly, not issuing hundreds of lesser quality sites, but less, more targetted niche sites will no doubt give great rewards.

          I am into autoblogging (on the quiet) but also do many handbuilt WP versions. I am fast coming to the opinion that autoblogging with a personal touch is the way to go.

          So, what I would do with the Mage.... Get a site up with 30/40 posts to start. Post up maybe half of that to launch it and schedule posts for every other day (personally I prefer one or two posts a week - maybe have to manually schedule posts in the Mage??). Quickly hand edit the content on the posts/pages to ensure it reads reasonably well to a human. Maybe throw in a short post or two of my own here and there too. Ensure the site is very well focused on a single niche/micro niche - Give them what they are looking for and nothing more on the site! Ensure there is diversification on these sites using different unbusy (but common) themes, some adsense and some affiliate sites, slightly change format of sites here and there. Add a couple of extra good links to home page from web 2.0 and other blogs to refresh Google's memory!

          These tactics will ensure you have an excellent standard and you can build a couple of these a week easily part time or one a day full time.
          The main time spent will be a) Niche and KW research B) reading and editing the language translations of content C)finding a common simple but appropriate free theme and lastly d) posting on a couple of blogs or Web 2.0 sites of your choice.

          There are two schools of thought with autoblogging. One is - put it up and see, dont touch it or edit it. Just get the pages out there. The other is put it up with a little care and attention. Edit and tweak a little - no obsession - not too much time to be spent. Finished ? See what traffic comes - If it is a winner after a few months out there, go back and add more researched KW content pages - no traffic? - then let it die and move on! I am with the second school here. That does not mean that the first does not work - it is a matter of preferrence.

          LONG LIVE AUTOBLOGGING!
          LONG LIVE THE MAGE!

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          • Profile picture of the author lonicera
            can somebody provide a link of an actual wp mage created site ?
            I'd like to see what it looks like.
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            • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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              • Profile picture of the author thinredline
                Originally Posted by Metronicity View Post

                This was the first one I created. I need to go back in and clean up a few things but this blog makes me good money without my having to touch a thing. Dog and Pet Supply

                Sometimes the keywords are strange. Like "Made USA" in the nav. bar on the right. But this was made months ago under Beta.
                Lady's fashion along with dog food? Just like diaper and beer side by side in grocery store? LOL.
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                  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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                    Originally Posted by WendyT View Post

                    You mean that you never met a women who owned a dog and drank so much beer that she wished she was wearing a diaper?

                    All kidding aside Metronicity, what kind of results has this blog had?
                    Thanks,
                    Wendy
                    That one is steaming along. Very good earner. Uh hang on...no no it's a dog. Don't do anything with dogs or cats or pets. Terrible keyword.
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                      • Profile picture of the author cheeze69
                        I've got a few questions, considering the not-insignificant $997 current price:

                        1) Will CP Mage update the WP installations and plugins for me, or do I have to login to hundreds of sites and upgrade WP manually?

                        2) Is the code encrypted or can I hack the stuff to create customized content spinning/etc.?

                        3) Will these types of sites get me banned from EPN, which I already have some hand-crafted sites with that earn me a few hundred bucks a month passively?

                        4) Other than Google updating the algorithms, is there anything in a Mage created site that "against the TOS" which would cause your AdSense account to get banned?

                        One one hand, I can see the whole "numbers" approach and creating many sites, but on the other, my skeptical side asks how long will this approach work before Google figures it out. In that mental calculation, I wonder if I will I make enough to pay-off the high $1000 pricetag for Mage + domain registrations before things die-off...
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                • Profile picture of the author OneLung
                  Originally Posted by thinredline View Post

                  Lady's fashion along with dog food? Just like diaper and beer side by side in grocery store? LOL.
                  In the little grocery store near my house they keep baby supplies and pet supplies on the same isle. One day I asked out loud, "Doesn't anyone but me see the irony here?" All I got was some disapproving looks from fat women dragging 3 kids behind them.

                  I have been experimenting with Mage for only a few days. Each day I read a little more and try a couple of different things. It's a little confusing at first (I'm blonde) but it's potential is starting to become clear. I think it's one of those things where actually playing with it is much more valuable than having it explained to you. Plus you can't go wrong with a two-month free trial.

                  My 2c.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Yes, Linda! The pool party was my idea! I can't wait to meet you! We deserve a vacation after we've made some good money with the Mage. I haven't taken a vacation in forever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melody
    Hi Everyone -

    I have pretty much been 'out of the loop' for the last several weeks as my father passed away after a brief illness. Unfortunately, mom lives in Reno, and I live in Cincinnati, so this 'commuting' back and forth is playing havoc with my work schedule.

    I was looking at WPMage before all of this happened, but missed the launch, and just signed up yesterday for the Adept, so this thread is really a great find!

    I do a LOT with wordpress, and have just about everything that has been sold here for automating, autoblogging etc your blogs - what is the biggest advantage of MasterMage over the other programs and plugins?

    Can anyone compare the CMage with maybe Edna Melendez's software (I think it is WPManager?)?

    Also, does anyone know if the payment plan will be offered again when the doors open? Right now, the only option is lifetime for $997 - and after the expenses of this past month, that's going to be a stretch for my budget.

    Thanks!

    Melody
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      • Profile picture of the author baldo
        Originally Posted by RobertRusso View Post

        As far as a WordPress Mage / Master Mage payment plan goes, it would seem to be a great idea for Greg to offer at least a couple of multiple payment options because many people just won't be able to swing a $997 lump sum.
        Thank you for your reply earlier,cleared some things up for me. Increase from $797 to $997 is way out of my budget wright now,$multi payment sounds good. Meanwhile will check out adept mage. Can somebody pm me a link how a site will look like when using wpmage. Baldo
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      • Profile picture of the author Melody
        Originally Posted by RobertRusso View Post

        Hi Melody,
        Let me first say that I am truly sorry for your loss.
        My father also passed away earlier this year but the good memories will last the rest of my life.

        ================================

        As far as a WordPress Mage / Master Mage payment plan goes, it would seem to be a great idea for Greg to offer at least a couple of multiple payment options because many people just won't be able to swing a $997 lump sum.
        Thank you for your kind words - it was honestly a shock as he was diagnosed initially with a mild heart attack - and we lost him 3 weeks later. I am the only surviving child and am no spring chicken at 55, so running back and forth across country is not fun.

        So - right now, getting as much automated as possible is a priority, and if WPMage can make the current set-up easier, I am definitely interested.
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        • Profile picture of the author RobWake
          I was just wondering if anyone could help with an answer here...

          I live in Africa, I have bought the GSniper and am working on my first site, I heard about WP Mage and have been following this thread and see it has come up a couple times about the dup Content... My question is, would duplicate content still hurt my ranking if I use e.g USA content on a local site? Would google treat it same or different.

          ALso my feeling about using WPMAGE in my local market is more about Adsense etc as people do not tend to whip out the cc to often here .... I hope it will justify the cost over time which I think it will as there is no problem finding keywords with 20,000 searches and less than 10,000 competing local pages... Has anyone had good Adsense success with this system?

          Thanks in advance for your comments
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          • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
            I having the best success with Adsense I've ever had. In fact, my future Mage sites will be all adsense for a while, not ebay.

            I'm unsure of your other question. You get paid when people click on your adsense ads, they don't have to whip out their credit card at all.

            Mages dont think duplicate content is an issue. First, the title is different. It will be the keyword. Secondly, we all set up our post layouts with different combinations of translation, content sources, ads, and the order in which they all appear.

            The free trial is for the Adept Mage membership. That will later cost $27/month after your trial. The full Master is the package with downloads to create sites with.
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            • Profile picture of the author RobWake
              Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

              I having the best success with Adsense I've ever had. In fact, my future Mage sites will be all adsense for a while, not ebay.

              I'm unsure of your other question. You get paid when people click on your adsense ads, they don't have to whip out their credit card at all.

              Mages dont think duplicate content is an issue. First, the title is different. It will be the keyword. Secondly, we all set up our post layouts with different combinations of translation, content sources, ads, and the order in which they all appear.

              The free trial is for the Adept Mage membership. That will later cost $27/month after your trial. The full Master is the package with downloads to create sites with.
              @ AmyKay, Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated...WRT Adsense part of the post, I was just saying that I will use WP Mage for adsense and not anything else because people over here still do not buy online much.

              I actually tried to PM you after making the post but it wont allow it to go through as I have not posted 50 times??...could you pm me an email address to reach you - please
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            • Profile picture of the author cbsale
              Hey Amy,
              I was thinking that too, just afraid my adsense account will get canceled.
              I've heard it's against there TOS to put adsense on duplicate content sites don't know if I should worry about it or not.

              Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

              I having the best success with Adsense I've ever had. In fact, my future Mage sites will be all adsense for a while, not ebay.
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              • Profile picture of the author Wayne Davis
                Hey Mike

                I'm a reader of your blog, and always enjoy the depth to which you review products.

                Withought taking anything away from Greg's program, can you give me a quick comparison of the WP Mage program vs Firepow or Firepow combined with WP Robot?

                I have looked at WP Mage and it looks superb. I am a little shy of the $997.
                I joined the Adept program, but am really interested in a cost comparison.

                Thanks so much for your input.

                Wayne
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                • Profile picture of the author RBadgley
                  Originally Posted by wtd1010 View Post

                  Hey Mike

                  I'm a reader of your blog, and always enjoy the depth to which you review products.

                  Withought taking anything away from Greg's program, can you give me a quick comparison of the WP Mage program vs Firepow or Firepow combined with WP Robot?

                  I have looked at WP Mage and it looks superb. I am a little shy of the $997.
                  I joined the Adept program, but am really interested in a cost comparison.

                  Thanks so much for your input.

                  Wayne
                  Hi After going over all the videos and pdfs and even trying out wpmage I am not impressed. Every bit of this can be done by Market Samurai in a much more planed out method with better keywords and add placement Market Samurai has all the same monetization modulus CJ CB Ebay adsence and amazon it also has the ability to pull in articles and is able to track everything and all for only $97.00 disclaimer Market Samurai does not have an affiliate program so I am not trying to sell it. If it did I would be first in line
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        • Profile picture of the author thinredline
          Originally Posted by Melody View Post

          I do not make decisions based on scarcity.....other than 'no'.
          On this point, Melody, I cannot agree with you more.
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    • Originally Posted by Melody View Post

      Hi Everyone -

      I have pretty much been 'out of the loop' for the last several weeks as my father passed away after a brief illness. Unfortunately, mom lives in Reno, and I live in Cincinnati, so this 'commuting' back and forth is playing havoc with my work schedule.

      I was looking at WPMage before all of this happened, but missed the launch, and just signed up yesterday for the Adept, so this thread is really a great find!

      I do a LOT with wordpress, and have just about everything that has been sold here for automating, autoblogging etc your blogs - what is the biggest advantage of MasterMage over the other programs and plugins?

      Can anyone compare the CMage with maybe Edna Melendez's software (I think it is WPManager?)?

      Also, does anyone know if the payment plan will be offered again when the doors open? Right now, the only option is lifetime for $997 - and after the expenses of this past month, that's going to be a stretch for my budget.

      Thanks!

      Melody

      Hi Melody,

      Edna Melendez's WPmanagerDX will do what CP Mage does i.e., manage all your Wordpress installations centrally.

      I have a post on my website on a cheaper alternative to WP Mage ...

      Matt Callen's HyperVRE is another option (not Wordpress based, though).

      Hope this helps,

      Andy
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      • Profile picture of the author Diogo Slov
        Andy, this is ALMOST the same.

        Different things that WPM does and no other system does so far (from what I know):

        1-) Backdates a ton of posts, (I recently setup an autoblog that already has 100+ posts, but still, it has no posts back 1-2-3 years like WPM does automatically.)

        2-) Matches eBay keyword lists to content from article sites and eBay auctions, (I got the free Mage trial and I setup a 2nd blog with some PLR content, but didn't do the translation thingy or anything like that. But in order to use the Mage plugin, you gotta manually insert the keyword on each post.)

        3-) The posts slugs and the content are optimized for each keyword, (Autoblogs seem to fetch whatever is currently available, instead of fetching content based on keywords lists you input.)

        And some other features too:

        4-) Inserts all legal pages at once,
        5-) Uploads nice themes,
        6-) Uploads the necessary plugins,

        And so on, but these features can be mimed by other programs -- such as the ones you're trying to sell on this WPM review thread.

        Anyways, this is what I've seen so far from looking at sales pages, reviews and so on. I'd love to buy the real thing, but $1300 or $1000 or even $700 is too much for me. $400 a month during three months also doesn't fit my student pocket.

        And as someone else said, let's keep on bringing real reviews here.

        Thanks,
        Diogo
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        • Originally Posted by Diogo Slov View Post

          Andy, this is ALMOST the same.

          Different things that WPM does and no other system does so far (from what I know):

          1-) Backdates a ton of posts, (I recently setup an autoblog that already has 100+ posts, but still, it has no posts back 1-2-3 years like WPM does automatically.)

          2-) Matches eBay keyword lists to content from article sites and eBay auctions, (I got the free Mage trial and I setup a 2nd blog with some PLR content, but didn't do the translation thingy or anything like that. But in order to use the Mage plugin, you gotta manually insert the keyword on each post.)

          3-) The posts slugs and the content are optimized for each keyword, (Autoblogs seem to fetch whatever is currently available, instead of fetching content based on keywords lists you input.)

          And some other features too:

          4-) Inserts all legal pages at once,
          5-) Uploads nice themes,
          6-) Uploads the necessary plugins,

          And so on, but these features can be mimed by other programs -- such as the ones you're trying to sell on this WPM review thread.

          Anyways, this is what I've seen so far from looking at sales pages, reviews and so on. I'd love to buy the real thing, but $1300 or $1000 or even $700 is too much for me. $400 a month during three months also doesn't fit my student pocket.

          And as someone else said, let's keep on bringing real reviews here.

          Thanks,
          Diogo
          Hi Diogo,

          Good post ... I have covered points 1-3 in my blog post ... to set the record straight, I am not trying to de-sell WP Mage like you infer ... I have acknowledged that the Mage software is good ... my post is only intended for those who could not afford it ...

          Your points 4-6 is taken care of by WPmanagerDX ...

          Hope this helps.

          Andy
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          • Profile picture of the author epbiz
            Hi

            WP Mage user how much do you pay for your domains?
            If I my calculation is right 20 websites a week could cost $180.00
            a week . Do you buy info or me domains endings?
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          • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
            Before I made the Mage, I used to do all these sites manually and use an assortment of scripts and programs, some homemade and some that have even been mentioned here.

            The fact is that you can succeed (in theory) by following the MAGE Methods, but actually do it manually or via 3rd party implementation.

            I suppose the only variable is time and do you want a system that is turnkey ready to go or do you have (LOTS) of time to glue various processes together (and of course the debugging) with the hopes to replicate what is already there.

            So yes it can work in theory, bypassing the MAGE Software and just following the Blueprint, but it just depends at what value you place your time and how much skills and knowledge do you have for the implementation.

            and...of course...... the Mage is Fun!
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            • Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

              Before I made the Mage, I used to do all these sites manually and use an assortment of scripts and programs, some homemade and some that have even been mentioned here.

              The fact is that you can succeed (in theory) by following the MAGE Methods, but actually do it manually or via 3rd party implementation.

              I suppose the only variable is time and do you want a system that is turnkey ready to go or do you have (LOTS) of time to glue various processes together (and of course the debugging) with the hopes to replicate what is already there.

              So yes it can work in theory, bypassing the MAGE Software and just following the Blueprint, but it just depends at what value you place your time and how much skills and knowledge do you have for the implementation.

              and...of course...... the Mage is Fun!
              Greg,

              Without doubt you have created an awesome system ... the well thought out workflow and integration ... I'm not so sure about the ROI though.

              The piece that I don't really like is the content translation feature ... while is does 'fool' the search engines with regard to the 'uniqueness' of the content, it does not add value to the human visitor ... as Internet marketers, I would think it is our responsibility to not pollute the Internet with such content ... there could also be ethical issues around using this 'tactic' on other people's published content.

              Having said that, a tool is a tool ... its up to the user to use it ethically and responsibly ...

              Cheers,

              Andy
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              • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                Originally Posted by creativentrepreneur View Post

                Greg,

                Without doubt you have created an awesome system ... the well thought out workflow and integration ... I'm not so sure about the ROI though.

                The piece that I don't really like is the content translation feature ...
                then you dont have to use it.
                its all modular and there. There are a hundred pieces that make up the Mage and you choose what you want to use and what not.

                What folks need to "get" is that the MAGE is much bigger than just my ideas on how to use it.

                I give you what has worked for me as a starting point to get your feet wet with the system, however those that have been using it a while have had some pretty phenomenal and original results.

                I even have one customer who has never used the translation, never used EPN or anything. He simply builds niche targeted sites in order to build his opt-in lists.

                but that is just one way....
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            • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
              Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

              Before I made the Mage, I used to do all these sites manually and use an assortment of scripts and programs, some homemade and some that have even been mentioned here.

              The fact is that you can succeed (in theory) by following the MAGE Methods, but actually do it manually or via 3rd party implementation.

              I suppose the only variable is time and do you want a system that is turnkey ready to go or do you have (LOTS) of time to glue various processes together (and of course the debugging) with the hopes to replicate what is already there.

              So yes it can work in theory, bypassing the MAGE Software and just following the Blueprint, but it just depends at what value you place your time and how much skills and knowledge do you have for the implementation.

              and...of course...... the Mage is Fun!
              I have to agree with Greg on his point of the time savings this system offers. In fact, that´s one of the things that attracted me to the Mage system to begin with.

              Sure, there´s plenty of plug ins that can do many of the tasks that his system can do and some are even free, but I place value on my time as much as my money.

              I know how to repair an engine too but I would much rather pay someone to do it for me. If I didn´t have the money then of course I would repair my own engine. Likewise, if I didn´t have the money I would still find a way to build my business online using whatever tools I could get my hands on just like Greg and many other Warriors have done and will continue to do.

              But tools are worth paying for if they make the job easier and that´s what this system is; a great tool. Any good tool in the hands of someone that knows how to use it pays for itself many times over and certainly I can see how this tool is Fun.

              Linda also has some good point about cleaning up some of the pages to make them look better. That´s really a matter of taste. The beauty of the Mage is it´s SO flexible and just like carving a piece of wood into a work of art, so can we pimp out a site to look the way we want it to.

              I can´t thank you enough Greg for putting so much value into the Mage. You over-delivered up front in the Adept level and continue to deliver in the Master Mage level.

              Having all the tools right there on one page makes this Warrior´s life much easier and encouraged to build more sites.

              Frank Tocco
              Amazed Master Mage
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              • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
                There is something about this thread that has really got me worked up. I have been biting my tongue to a large extent but sod it, here goes..

                1. Why do people get seduced into paying mega huge bucks for a flashy system that effectively just creates thousands of crap duplicate pages of content on hundreds of sites?

                2. When people have paid huge mega bucks for a flashy system they flog an affiliate page in their signature whilst claiming they have made a few bucks from their hundreds of trash sites. Is it true to say you will earn more as an affiliate?

                3. What is this constant rubbish about saving time? Saving time for what? Saving time to not make any money? Saving time to make trashy websites that will get deindexed within weeks of going online! It's completely the wrong way to do things these days and anyone who tells you different is wrong or trying to flog you some new flashy system to "save you time" making money.

                I guarantee that if everyone just took the time to build sites based on quality and NOT quantity you would see the benefits financially.


                Originally Posted by Frank Tocco View Post

                I have to agree with Greg on his point of the time savings this system offers. In fact, that´s one of the things that attracted me to the Mage system to begin with.

                Sure, there´s plenty of plug ins that can do many of the tasks that his system can do and some are even free, but I place value on my time as much as my money.

                I know how to repair an engine too but I would much rather pay someone to do it for me. If I didn´t have the money then of course I would repair my own engine. Likewise, if I didn´t have the money I would still find a way to build my business online using whatever tools I could get my hands on just like Greg and many other Warriors have done and will continue to do.

                But tools are worth paying for if they make the job easier and that´s what this system is; a great tool. Any good tool in the hands of someone that knows how to use it pays for itself many times over and certainly I can see how this tool is Fun.

                Linda also has some good point about cleaning up some of the pages to make them look better. That´s really a matter of taste. The beauty of the Mage is it´s SO flexible and just like carving a piece of wood into a work of art, so can we pimp out a site to look the way we want it to.

                I can´t thank you enough Greg for putting so much value into the Mage. You over-delivered up front in the Adept level and continue to deliver in the Master Mage level.

                Having all the tools right there on one page makes this Warrior´s life much easier and encouraged to build more sites.

                Frank Tocco
                Amazed Master Mage
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                • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
                  There is something about this thread that has really got me worked up. I have been biting my tongue to a large extent but sod it, here goes..

                  1. Why do people get seduced into paying mega huge bucks for a flashy system that effectively just creates thousands of crap duplicate pages of content on hundreds of sites?

                  2. When people have paid huge mega bucks for a flashy system they flog an affiliate page in their signature whilst claiming they have made a few bucks from their hundreds of trash sites. Is it true to say you will earn more as an affiliate?

                  3. What is this constant rubbish about saving time? Saving time for what? Saving time to not make any money? Saving time to make trashy websites that will get deindexed within weeks of going online! It's completely the wrong way to do things these days and anyone who tells you different is wrong or trying to flog you some new flashy system to "save you time" making money.

                  I guarantee that if everyone just took the time to build sites based on quality and NOT quantity you would see the benefits financially.
                  I´m sure people with the experience to find and piece the plug ins together and who already know about how to do that wouldn´t value the mage system as much.
                  All I´m saying is, I do have the money and don´t have the time. For me, it´s a good value.
                  I´ll probably take Linda´s advice and clean the sites up a bit before publishing them. I see her point of view on that but I also agree with Greg and metronicity in that the point of online marketing is well, marketing. If a site is making money, who cares what it looks like. I´m not that attached to the beauty of a site if it pulls profits.

                  Vah Gogh made beautiful paintings that he couldn´t give away while he was alive and Andy Warhol made stencils that sold for thousands of dollars while he was still alive.
                  I bet Andy was happier about that then Van was.

                  I mean look at Google´s site for example. It´s boring but does it give value? YES.
                  There were other free search engines before Google yet it dominates now.
                  Did it make money? Not at first but it sure does now. That´s the thing about value.
                  It´s subjective. One man´s trash is another´s treasure.
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                • Profile picture of the author mrizos
                  Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

                  There is something about this thread that has really got me worked up. I have been biting my tongue to a large extent but sod it, here goes..

                  1. Why do people get seduced into paying mega huge bucks for a flashy system that effectively just creates thousands of crap duplicate pages of content on hundreds of sites?

                  2. When people have paid huge mega bucks for a flashy system they flog an affiliate page in their signature whilst claiming they have made a few bucks from their hundreds of trash sites. Is it true to say you will earn more as an affiliate?

                  3. What is this constant rubbish about saving time? Saving time for what? Saving time to not make any money? Saving time to make trashy websites that will get deindexed within weeks of going online! It's completely the wrong way to do things these days and anyone who tells you different is wrong or trying to flog you some new flashy system to "save you time" making money.

                  I guarantee that if everyone just took the time to build sites based on quality and NOT quantity you would see the benefits financially.

                  Man...you said it ALL right there. Republishing Articlesbase articles are NOT going to get you a single visitor!

                  Total crap.

                  Oh, let's back date those posts...so???...who cares, just cause we put a fake time stamp on them we're going to get traffic? Lol, wake up. Google just see's you as part of the supplemental index and that's that.

                  You just paid a couple'a hundred bucks to have your time wasted...gratz.
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  • Profile picture of the author thinredline
    Melody, I don't use either of them, so don't take my word seriously but as far as I know, in shortest words, WP Mage is an IM system, a strategy, while WPManagerDX is just an automation tool. WP Mage is a series of plugins: Integrate all of the content from multiple sources (Articles, Flickr, YouTube, EPN, Clickbank, CJ.com, Yahoo Answers, and Amazon) into 1 single article, then create thousands of posts
    that are back dated for as many years back as you want to spread them out by using an aged domain. WPManagerDX more like CPMage, can automate a serious of WP set up works: install wp, theme, plugin, seo, publish content from RSS and PLR, etc.

    I really wish there will be coupon offered for WP Mage. $997 is really out of my budget for now.
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    • Profile picture of the author mick535
      Let's look at this realistically. I hear a few people here talking about throwing up hundreds of domains with the Mage and bam its gonna work.

      Wrong. I am a long time auto blogger. I have tons of auto blogs. I have some that make me $10 per month and I have some that make me around $3000 per month.

      Ussually, the blogs that I hurredly threw up are the ones that don't make me a lot of money. The exception to this is from my Adsense sites mostly, but those are always a shot in the dark.

      The sites that make me money are the ones that have a good theme. Look professional. And you can't tell they are auto blogs.

      Yes, I am a WP Mage Member and I highly recommend it because it automates a lot of tasks and more importantly, it combines content for each Post to make it a unique posting in its own right, and then you can make it somewhat more unique by changing the language of the text back and forth between english another language and then back to english again.

      Creating a strategy which allows you to create a themed site with focus will result in more Affiliate Commissions. All you have to say to yourself is: Would I click on this?

      I have actually incorporated phpBay and phpZon into my WP Mage sites because they produce better looking listings and they are 100% SEO Friendly. You have to spend money to make money.

      I probably make more from 10 of my sites than most of the Mage Members who have 50 sites, strictly because I plan and implement a site strategy, a linking strategy, and a stats, evaluation, and tracking strategy.

      If you don't know what is working, how can you duplicate it?

      The thing I hate to see the most is people devaluing quality domains by slapping up crap sites fast with zero thought process. Think it through and yes, create 100 sites, but do it right and you will triple what you would have made otherwise.

      Just my 2 cents.

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author Melody
        Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

        Let's look at this realistically. I hear a few people here talking about throwing up hundreds of domains with the Mage and bam its gonna work.

        Wrong. I am a long time auto blogger. I have tons of auto blogs. I have some that make me $10 per month and I have some that make me around $3000 per month.

        Ussually, the blogs that I hurredly threw up are the ones that don't make me a lot of money. The exception to this is from my Adsense sites mostly, but those are always a shot in the dark.

        The sites that make me money are the ones that have a good theme. Look professional. And you can't tell they are auto blogs.

        Yes, I am a WP Mage Member and I highly recommend it because it automates a lot of tasks and more importantly, it combines content for each Post to make it a unique posting in its own right, and then you can make it somewhat more unique by changing the language of the text back and forth between english another language and then back to english again.

        Creating a strategy which allows you to create a themed site with focus will result in more Affiliate Commissions. All you have to say to yourself is: Would I click on this?

        I have actually incorporated phpBay and phpZon into my WP Mage sites because they produce better looking listings and they are 100% SEO Friendly. You have to spend money to make money.

        I probably make more from 10 of my sites than most of the Mage Members who have 50 sites, strictly because I plan and implement a site strategy, a linking strategy, and a stats, evaluation, and tracking strategy.

        If you don't know what is working, how can you duplicate it?

        The thing I hate to see the most is people devaluing quality domains by slapping up crap sites fast with zero thought process. Think it through and yes, create 100 sites, but do it right and you will triple what you would have made otherwise.

        Just my 2 cents.

        Mike
        Thanks, Mike, for a great response! Sounds like we have similar work patterns here - I have a lot of autoblogging tools BUT I also spend the time to do a good looking site with original content on top of the automated parts.

        My question is this: in going through the thread, most people seem to be using the term "WPMAGE" and not differentiating between the Master and the Adept portions.

        MIke - and anyone else that wants to respond - are you using the Adept or the Master WPMage?

        If you have WPManagerDX, PHPBay, various Amazon plugins, dupecontent or Uniquefier,. etc, etc (you get the picture - I have a lot of premium plugins and tools) does Master Mage add that much more to the mix?

        Thanks!

        Melody
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        • Profile picture of the author thinredline
          Originally Posted by Melody View Post


          If you have WPManagerDX, PHPBay, various Amazon plugins, dupecontent or Uniquefier,. etc, etc (you get the picture - I have a lot of premium plugins and tools) does Master Mage add that much more to the mix?

          Thanks!

          Melody
          Melody,

          You got more than enough to be successful on autoblogging. The missing piece I think is the software that mix multiple sources into one post and to make many backdated posts. WPRobot is moving on that direction, but have to wait and see next big upgrade. There is another plugin called WPMixer that is supposed to do this kind of job but it only works on WP 2.7.
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      • Profile picture of the author ptwain
        Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

        Let's look at this realistically. I hear a few people here talking about throwing up hundreds of domains with the Mage and bam its gonna work.

        Wrong. I am a long time auto blogger. I have tons of auto blogs. I have some that make me $10 per month and I have some that make me around $3000 per month.

        Ussually, the blogs that I hurredly threw up are the ones that don't make me a lot of money. The exception to this is from my Adsense sites mostly, but those are always a shot in the dark.

        The sites that make me money are the ones that have a good theme. Look professional. And you can't tell they are auto blogs.

        Yes, I am a WP Mage Member and I highly recommend it because it automates a lot of tasks and more importantly, it combines content for each Post to make it a unique posting in its own right, and then you can make it somewhat more unique by changing the language of the text back and forth between english another language and then back to english again.

        Creating a strategy which allows you to create a themed site with focus will result in more Affiliate Commissions. All you have to say to yourself is: Would I click on this?

        I have actually incorporated phpBay and phpZon into my WP Mage sites because they produce better looking listings and they are 100% SEO Friendly. You have to spend money to make money.

        I probably make more from 10 of my sites than most of the Mage Members who have 50 sites, strictly because I plan and implement a site strategy, a linking strategy, and a stats, evaluation, and tracking strategy.

        If you don't know what is working, how can you duplicate it?

        The thing I hate to see the most is people devaluing quality domains by slapping up crap sites fast with zero thought process. Think it through and yes, create 100 sites, but do it right and you will triple what you would have made otherwise.

        Just my 2 cents.

        Mike

        Great Comment Mike,

        I've been building autoblogs for the past year(104 as I'm writing). Well really semi auto blogs because I believe you have to provide some form of unique content to you site to make it look legit. Basically, the internet community is now so sophisticated they can see a bullS&!# blog or site coming a mile away. They may not know it's an autoblog, but they will know the site is about nothing and has no substance.

        The key is like Mike said and have a plan and strategy. My first 10-20 blogs were a disaster because I was just trying to add 1000 post with no rhyme or reason, and moved on to the next. I made a total of about $50 in six months. When I put a strategy in place, my autoblogs started to look like a unique blogs with good content, and my earnings skyed through the roof. I will even dare to say you can probably make an autoblog into an authority site with the right plan in placed.

        In all, the key to all these automated tools like WP Robot, ReviewAzon, WP Answers, WP Youtube, and all million autoblog tools is speed. What took someone months or years to build a good content site, can now be done in weeks or even days....

        So if anyone is thinking that they will buy WP Mage and build 40-50 sites, and the money will start rolling in are fooling themselves. Save your money, and don't buy any more products till you have a plan in place. Take it from me, it's better to build 10 good autoblog sites that will help someone, than build 100 crappy autoblog sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    Great reading in this thread and thought I'd chime in. I've been having a blast with the wp mage system and agree with several of the most recent comments here, particularly Mike's.

    I have no idea whether or not you would have success by just throwing up a ton of sites per day but that's certainly not the way I've been going about it. I have a goal of getting at least one site up per day because there are other things that I do: niche research, keyword research, buy domains, waste too much time on forums....

    I also spend more time on the front page design of the blog, put a pic and bio on there and do a few other things that are on my "checklist". It is a great system and the "Mage" community is really great too. I honestly have to say that this is the first "big" IM purchase that I've made where I haven't had that nagging feeling in my stomach (kind of like indigestion) shortly after.

    Are there negatives? yep - I think it's slightly complicated but the forums are fantastic and "complicated" in and of itself isn't a bad thing - to me it means that there are so many possibilities that it's going to take me a long time to unlock them all. Frankly, I never thought that wordpress was simple in the first place...
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  • Profile picture of the author Harbourmaster
    AFAIK the main difference between the "Adept" Mage and the full CPMage is that with Adept you have to do all of the site building by hand and with CP it automates everything as far as constructing the actual site. Greg actually encourages everyone to learn how to build the sites manually first in order to become more familiar with the entire system. Since I do not have an extra grand laying around at the moment I will continue to build my sites manually. Even if I had the money I think I would stick to doing them this way as I like to have more control over the finished site.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I don't think it's against their TOS to put adsense on a site that has content that is also elsewhere on the internet, thus, "duplicate content." If that were the case, the ramifications would be huge for many big well-known authority sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    For those who are concerned about the relatively high price for WP Mage, my guess is that the program will be offered as either a one-time payment or on a three month instalment plan. That's what Greg's done with Google Sniper purchasers and Jack Humphrey list members. That's where I bought in.

    And I agree with several of the above posters that the way to go about this is with a certain degree of planning - continue to use the niche-finding methods that you've learned in so many courses and products - or just by reading this forum - and build strong, useful, information-filled sites.

    This software will help you do that. Just don't go crazy and set up a hundred sites a day on words you found in a dictionary. You can't reasonably expect that most of those will make money. On the other hand, a little research will go a long way in determining valuable niches. And then, use this software to speed up your site-building.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    Melody - Sorry for your trouble. I lost both of my parents and I just wanted to say that - as hard as it may be to believe right now - it does get better with time. Have faith.
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    • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
      Hi After going over all the videos and pdfs and even trying out wpmage I am not impressed. Every bit of this can be done by Market Samurai in a much more planed out method with better keywords and add placement Market Samurai has all the same monetization modulus CJ CB Ebay adsence and amazon it also has the ability to pull in articles and is able to track everything and all for only $97.00 disclaimer Market Samurai does not have an affiliate program so I am not trying to sell it. If it did I would be first in line
      I'm not sure how Market Samurai integrates with wordpress - yes, I do own it and use it often. I think the whole idea and benefit of wp mage is the massive scale/depth of a blog that you can create in a very short period of time. While you may be able to find the "content" with MS (which I haven't really tested on products), how will you scale that with wordpress?
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
        Hello.
        I'm wondering if anyone knows if you can download the master mage software downloads
        if you are on the payment plan?
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        • Profile picture of the author RobertRusso
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          • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
            Yeah,... Just a little hick-up.
            Every thing's just fine now.
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          • Profile picture of the author thinredline
            Originally Posted by RobertRusso View Post

            Yes, you are able to download all of the Master Mage files and you are assigned your license key as soon as you make a payment. Click my sig link for a surprise report on WP Mage!
            Rob, I did not see download open to adept members. Any clue?
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      • Profile picture of the author RBadgley
        Market Samurai posts directly to you word press site no need to log in to wp admin it brings up content from all the sources that wpmage does but you are able to pick and choose which to use

        I choose to pimp one of my sites as directed in wpmage and then looked at my site and 50 to 75% of the postings did not relate to my sites theme.

        Also if you are just trying out WPmage to see how it works don't do it with a site you value because if you ask for a refund as I did I had to take down all the posting that WPmage did for me--- now you have to remove all those postings by hand.
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        • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
          Interesting - I didn't know MS had that feature. they certainly overdeliver and I have no idea why they keep putting off their affiliate program. It's a great tool and I have no intention of putting it down.

          Like I said, I'm always looking to streamline and wp mage is something that is allowing me to scale my site building to the level that I want and, frankly, I just think it's a really fun app to work with.
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          • Profile picture of the author mick535
            This tool is not about creating perfect sites. You can't put something on auto and expect perfection. People use keywords for different reasons. keywords are also about context. What I mean when I say something is different than what anyone else might mean, thus you get different content from an auto blog tool than what youmight have meant when you set it up.

            This is the exception, not the rule. Targeting and focused smaller sites are the way to go. Develope categories and drill down into niches. Don't just autopost 8000 posts to one category and expect results. That's just stupid.

            Don't expect a Genie in a Bottle, it takes some work, but minimal work considering the large amount of Automation given to you with WP Mage. I love it and that is why I am willing to support buyers of it. It's a no brainer if you have the cash.
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            • Profile picture of the author thinredline
              Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

              This is the exception, not the rule. Targeting and focused smaller sites are the way to go. Develope categories and drill down into niches. Don't just autopost 8000 posts to one category and expect results. That's just stupid.
              But is that Greg keep talking about in his video? He told Mage users to use categories instead of micro niches and use a long list of sub niche keywords to pull contents and generate 8000 post in one time. Is this the advantage of Mage system? I am confused.:confused:
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              • Profile picture of the author mick535
                That's exactly what I said. Maybe I shouldn't have use the term micro niche, I probably should have said a highly targeted niche. I said you need to have focused categories in one site. You can have 8000 to 20000 in one site, just make sure the categories are focused. If oyu have a micro niche category that only gets 150 keywords, so be it, it is the smarter way to go. Once you see all the videos it will make more sense.

                Originally Posted by thinredline View Post

                But is that Greg keep talking about in his video? He told Mage users to use categories instead of micro niches and use a long list of sub niche keywords to pull contents and generate 8000 post in one time. Is this the advantage of Mage system? I am confused.:confused:
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              • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                Originally Posted by thinredline View Post

                But is that Greg keep talking about in his video? He told Mage users to use categories instead of micro niches and use a long list of sub niche keywords to pull contents and generate 8000 post in one time. Is this the advantage of Mage system? I am confused.:confused:
                There are LOTS of videos we did, but I think you are referring to the video where I am drilling down into the ebay categories as a tool of niche research
                eBay - Nonfiction, Women's Clothing, Men's Clothing items on eBay.com

                so we may be getting mixed up the terms 'categories'

                though I think we are on the right track.
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          • Profile picture of the author RBadgley
            Originally Posted by WendyT View Post

            Hi, what ways does Market Samurai differ from Wordpress Mage? Do you feel it may be a better option or can they be used together?
            Thanks,
            Wendy
            HI
            I would use the Keyword research that comes out of MS Vs the mage keyword tool (MS keyword tool is free) As far as MS it is not as fast as Mage but is makes a better site as you can pick and choose your postings and I beleive will never get band in google/ebay. as some people have already expearenced in Mage. I did buy Mage for a tryout and then asked for a refund which I received in the same day I asked for it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
              For all those people wondering if you can do the same thing that mage does with Market Samurai, you can't.. It's like comparing apples with oranges to be honest. Market Samurai is a top quality on and off page SEO tool.

              It will publish syndicated articles to your wordpress blog though and it does it in a very intelligent way. It gives you the option to pick and choose articles and then post them based on your own intuition. It also doesn't abuse the article directories rules about modifying the content.

              Please don't put market samurai in the same thread as some extremely over priced, over hyped product.
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              • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

                For all those people wondering if you can do the same thing that mage does with Market Samurai, you can't.. It's like comparing apples with oranges to be honest. Market Samurai is a top quality on and off page SEO tool.

                It will publish syndicated articles to your wordpress blog though and it does it in a very intelligent way. It gives you the option to pick and choose articles and then post them based on your own intuition.

                Please don't put market samurai in the same thread as some extremely over priced, over hyped product.
                I do agree with you about MS and WPM being completely different. MS is research tool with an addon for hand publishing, whereas WPM creates massive amounts of targeted pages in a short amount of time. I have actually used MS in conjunction with WPM to help for keyword sorting and analysis and may do a training module on integration soon.

                So they are very different focus. As for your "other" comments regarding my product, you of of course entitled to your opinions and I respect that.
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                • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
                  I have nothing against the mage package as such. In fact some of the tools like the keyword tool and domain tool are actually very good. But the whole package is just way to over priced in my opinion.

                  I still want to know how you get around the article directory rules about not changing the content the mage scrapes from them when using your translator?

                  Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

                  As for your derogatory and defaming comments regarding my product, you of of course entitled to your opinions and I respect that.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jay Rhome
                Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

                For all those people wondering if you can do the same thing that mage does with Market Samurai, you can't.. It's like comparing apples with oranges to be honest. Market Samurai is a top quality on and off page SEO tool.

                It will publish syndicated articles to your wordpress blog though and it does it in a very intelligent way. It gives you the option to pick and choose articles and then post them based on your own intuition. It also doesn't abuse the article directories rules about modifying the content.
                Thanks to you Steve I checked out the publish content section of MS - I had basically never did check it thoroughly. Wow! What a gem this software is! These guys really OVERdeliver!

                As for WP Mage, if it does what it says it does, we can surely make $2 a day per site on autopilot after a couple of months.

                Still, $997 upfront + say 100 domains - some new some old for an average of $20-25 that put us around 3K+ total upfront. Ouch.

                The sites BETTER make money!

                It looks very promising but many other softwares and course have promised big before. 30 days don't seem enough to really test this - of course the sites will be up and all if it works bug free, but will we know enough about RESULTS (money!!!) to make a clear decision?

                It's a kind of product I wouldn't mind a monthly fee. After all, if it does what it's supposed to we'd make more money if we use it than it'd cost per month. Paying 1K+ a least $200 for some sites, upfront, makes this a tough sell for me and many others. Oh well.
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              • Profile picture of the author RBadgley
                Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

                For all those people wondering if you can do the same thing that mage does with Market Samurai, you can't.. It's like comparing apples with oranges to be honest. Market Samurai is a top quality on and off page SEO tool.

                It will publish syndicated articles to your wordpress blog though and it does it in a very intelligent way. It gives you the option to pick and choose articles and then post them based on your own intuition. It also doesn't abuse the article directories rules about modifying the content.

                Please don't put market samurai in the same thread as some extremely over priced, over hyped product.
                Hi Steve
                I was not comparing the two softwares You are absolutly correct the Market Samurari is 1000 times better than the Mage I was mearly trying to suggest to people to save their money and buy something more useful and a lot less expensive to use that will get much better results. I thought that sense I have tried the mage and it took me only 1 week to get back out (it took me that long to figure it out) that they might listen to someone who has tried it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Hi, Frank. Hello Tracy!

    I have now made $514.17 total. Pretty soon, I'll be too embaresed to post my great earnings.

    And I have only 70 sites up. And for the last 3 weeks, I haven't built or touched any of them. Passive income! And the earnings increase every day!
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    We mods are well aware that this program is becoming available again for a few days. We'll be watching this thread very closely. Short posts that just try to 'pimp' so-called 'review sites' will not last very long.

    Intelligent reviews only, please.

    Thanks,

    Pearson
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    I agree that there is some confusion as to mass-posting of broad "categories" and drilling down into less competitive, ie- profitable niches, with the wp mage system. Just throwing up a bunch of adsense sites with 1000's of posts in broad categories, such as "weight loss", is going to get you bupkis.

    For ANY system to work, you still have to find the profitable niches and do the keyword research. Wordpress Mage doesn't do that for you but does give you some tools to help - such as Keyword Mage. I still use plenty of outside tools to track down underserved niches, as I'm sure anyone with success does as well.

    That being said, when the keyword lists are put together to generate posts for a blog, those posts can be "stacked" or "seeded" so that your most profitable keywords are used more often, and then your next, and so on... AND they system does NOT generate duplicate posts in your blog, ie - no dup pic, videos, articles, which is key.

    hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Melody
    Since this seems to use a license key, I have a couple of questions:
    1) Does the key restrict the use of the software/plugins from just one computer? I am not only back and forth between home (Cincinnati) and Reno right now trying to get my mom resettled, but my hubby and I both work on our sites form our own computers AND - I have a couple of people that I often outsource work to. So can we all use the software or is it restricted to say, just my desktop computer?

    2) What happens if Greg shuts down shop? Does the software stop working? It has certainly happened before - so is this independent of Greg?

    Thanks -

    Melody
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      Originally Posted by Melody View Post

      Since this seems to use a license key, I have a couple of questions:
      1) Does the key restrict the use of the software/plugins from just one computer? I am not only back and forth between home (Cincinnati) and Reno right now trying to get my mom resettled, but my hubby and I both work on our sites form our own computers AND - I have a couple of people that I often outsource work to. So can we all use the software or is it restricted to say, just my desktop computer?

      2) What happens if Greg shuts down shop? Does the software stop working? It has certainly happened before - so is this independent of Greg?

      Thanks -

      Melody
      Since these are direct questions, let me jump in and give clear answers

      1 - It installs on your servers - so it is not home-computer specific. Your license is good for all sites that you OWN.

      2 - No. It works independently of me (and anything else. It is standalone) though we give frequent updates that you may like
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      • Profile picture of the author Melody
        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

        Since these are direct questions, let me jump in and give clear answers

        1 - It installs on your servers - so it is not home-computer specific. Your license is good for all sites that you OWN.

        2 - No. It works independently of me (and anything else. It is standalone) though we give frequent updates that you may like
        THANK YOU!!! Makes me feel much better! I (unfortunately) have spent a considerable amount of moola on great software that is now 'non-functional' due to the developers 'moving on', so this is very comforting to know.

        And the ability to work on my sites from anywhere is very important right now.

        Thanks for the fast response, Greg, greatly appreciated!

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  • Profile picture of the author thinredline
    I have interest in WPMage but since I was rejected by EPN and WPMage's strategy seems focusing EPN, so I am a bit worried that how could I make results by using WPMage without EPN. This is because from Mage Forum looks like most people have pretty low conversion rate on Amazon, CJ, etc. Anyone can shed some light?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    Why not make it something like $99 a month or so and charge it for a year or even for the life of the membership? Since the members can't import the sites elsewhere it's a much more profitable avenue for Greg to explore and customers would be more willing to invest, regardless of how much they end up paying for the product.

    Cheers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stefanie
      There's always Firepow if you want to pay $117 month...
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I tried FirePow several months ago. It is nice for adding plugins and content quickly. But I don't think it's still as fast as the Mage. With the Mage, you install the software once, and then you can create 30 sites. For each of those sites, you just choose your theme, the backdate and forward dates for posts, translation you want, and then copy/paste thousands of keywords. Then it automatically creates a post for each of those keywords. The keywords become the post titles, and because most of them are such longtail keywords, you get traffic from the search engines with absolutely no further effort.

    You can do more than 30 sites for each batch, but I just do another CPMage install and another 30 sites, and so on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Klein
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      I tried FirePow several months ago. It is nice for adding plugins and content quickly. But I don't think it's still as fast as the Mage. With the Mage, you install the software once, and then you can create 30 sites. For each of those sites, you just choose your theme, the backdate and forward dates for posts, translation you want, and then copy/paste thousands of keywords. Then it automatically creates a post for each of those keywords. The keywords become the post titles, and because most of them are such longtail keywords, you get traffic from the search engines with absolutely no further effort.

      You can do more than 30 sites for each batch, but I just do another CPMage install and another 30 sites, and so on.
      Thanks Amy.

      Any reason why you limit the number of sites on your hosting plan to 30? I think you said you're using Host Gator. Is that right?

      I read that the reseller plan works with WP Mage but not necessarily the regular shared hosting plan(s). Has that been your experience?

      Thanks
      Jeff Klein
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  • Profile picture of the author Stefanie
    Hi AmyKay,

    Are you mainly monetizing with EPN? It seems like that would be the most profitable out of Amazon and CJ.

    How do you respond to the people on the other thread talking about WP Robot?
    Originally Posted by mikeong88 View Post

    I bought WP Robot 3 days ago looking to start my auto-blogging empire

    No regrets...one of the best Autoblogging plugins in the market right now...

    It can extract contents from everywhere except RSS feeds of normal blogs...

    Hopefully this additional module will be implemented soon....

    There are free solutions like WP-O-Matic though.

    In fact, I don't understand why someone can spend over $700 for a similar solution out there on the other thread..

    WP Robot has everything even the translation module !

    Hopefully the creator will maintain the development of WP Robot for as long it is not perfect !
    Is it really just a number games with Wp Mage - throw up sites as fast as you can and hope they don't sand boxed at some point? I guess you just throw up more if that happens!
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineMktgByron
    Hi,
    I've been following this thread all day and based on ongoing discussions, it seemed like the price was going to be around $997 with possibly a 3 pay option. I just looked on the upgrade link on the wpmage Adept members area and the price is listed as $1297 WOW.
    I guess he's making us pay for not getting it on the last offer. No payment plan either.

    Now I am seriously disappointed. This is obviously a great program from what I have seen, but I guess I will do it all manually or with someone else's plugins. I was hoping to be able to afford it, but after being out of work since January that is out of the question.

    Oh well, on to other things.

    Byron
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    • Profile picture of the author Stefanie
      Don't give up on auto blogging Byron, it really does work. WP-O-Matic is a great free plug in to get started with. You can make good passive income with these types of blogs. I have several that pull in about $150 a month each that I haven't touched in months.

      Sure, the Mage plug-in really speeds things up but doing it the tried and tested way works too!
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      • Profile picture of the author safierdrgn
        I decided to log in about an hour and a half ago to see if he released it early...well it showed up at $997. That made me die a little on the inside..but I was prepared to shell that out if I could get the courage to push the buy button and walk away for a few hours.

        I just refreshed my account page and now it's $1297...that's a big no-go for me right there! Hell I could make two more car payments on that!
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      • Profile picture of the author OnlineMktgByron
        Originally Posted by Stefanie View Post

        Don't give up on auto blogging Byron, it really does work. WP-O-Matic is a great free plug in to get started with. You can make good passive income with these types of blogs. I have several that pull in about $150 a month each that I haven't touched in months.

        Sure, the Mage plug-in really speeds things up but doing it the tried and tested way works too!
        Hi Stefanie,

        My daughter's name is the same as yours except with the 'ph' instead of the f and she has a good friend that lives in the Toronto area.

        Thank you for the encouragement and the plugin information. I will definitely get that and combine it with the 'Adept' 60 day trial and see how it goes.

        Talk soon,
        Byron
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    • Originally Posted by OnlineMktgByron View Post

      Hi,
      I've been following this thread all day and based on ongoing discussions, it seemed like the price was going to be around $997 with possibly a 3 pay option. I just looked on the upgrade link on the wpmage Adept members area and the price is listed as $1297 WOW.
      I guess he's making us pay for not getting it on the last offer. No payment plan either.

      Now I am seriously disappointed. This is obviously a great program from what I have seen, but I guess I will do it all manually or with someone else's plugins. I was hoping to be able to afford it, but after being out of work since January that is out of the question.

      Oh well, on to other things.

      Byron
      Hi Byron,

      I have made a post on a cheaper alternative ... get the details on my blog. Hope it helps.

      Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author thinredline
    $1300 is definitely overpriced. The ROI will be significantly lower. The current price is a deal breaker for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author dotsantoro
    Hi,

    Like Byron and others, I waited all week for this, but didn't expect a $300 price increase. In fact, I was hoping for a discount and/or a payment plan to bring the price down from $1k. I would have gotten it at $797 the first time I saw it, but didn't have enough in my paypal account at the time. Even the rumored $350 for 3 payments, wouldn't have been too bad. Oh well.

    Dot
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      dont know if I am supposed to do this here, so mods feel free to delete, but I just made a code for warriors

      $300 off

      "warriormage"
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      • Profile picture of the author Art Lewis
        I signed up for Adept Mage 60 day trial on November 15, hoping to upgrade to Master mage at under $1,000 or some installment plan. It is somewhat devious to crank the price up to $1300 and then give a discount of $300. Some of your Affiliates are offering better deals.
        This one-shot high price of $1297 is guaranteed to result is a very high percentage of refund requests as 30 days is not enough time to determine the product's viability, especialy when people are going to be busy over the holiday/chhristmas season.
        I would definitely be willing to try it out at $99 a month membership and give myself 3-4 months to check if I can recoup my money. Even if recovered half my investment ($45/month)in 2-3 months I would continue with the product. The probability of recovering $1,297 in 3-4 months is very low.
        The product may be very good, but you are ruining your sales and profit potential by a poor pricing model.
        Art
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        • Profile picture of the author marketsmart
          Originally Posted by Art Lewis View Post

          I signed up for Adept Mage 60 day trial on November 15, hoping to upgrade to Master mage at under $1,000 or some installment plan. It is somewhat devious to crank the price up to $1300 and then give a discount of $300. Some of your Affiliates are offering better deals.
          This one-shot high price of $1297 is guaranteed to result is a very high percentage of refund requests as 30 days is not enough time to determine the product's viability, especialy when people are going to be busy over the holiday/chhristmas season.
          I would definitely be willing to try it out at $99 a month membership and give myself 3-4 months to check if I can recoup my money. Even if recovered half my investment ($45/month)in 2-3 months I would continue with the product. The probability of recovering $1,297 in 3-4 months is very low.
          The product may be very good, but you are ruining your sales and profit potential by a poor pricing model.
          Art

          I will just say that I bought mage under the last buy and I will have made my money back by the first of the year..

          Take that for what it's worth...

          Mage is a tool, it's not money tree..

          If you think you are going to buy it and do a little work and make piles of money, then don't buy it..

          If you want to streamline your blogging process and focus on the parts of a blog that make a lot of money, (you know what I am talking about) then buy it..
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          • Profile picture of the author morfeus
            Well i just got it
            Thought id take the plunge
            My biggest hurdle at the moment is getting an EPN account
            I dont have any sites that would be applicable.
            Hey any help on this department would be very much worth its wait in gold.
            By the way i have the pdf that greg has on his website but that will be my last resort, if you know what i mean.. :>
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            • Profile picture of the author marketsmart
              Originally Posted by morfeus View Post

              Well i just got it
              Thought id take the plunge
              My biggest hurdle at the moment is getting an EPN account
              I dont have any sites that would be applicable.
              Hey any help on this department would be very much worth its wait in gold.
              By the way i have the pdf that greg has on his website but that will be my last resort, if you know what i mean.. :>
              I would give you this advice based on my own experience, follow the pdf and do a search on getting approved by EPN.

              I was not approved the first time I tried because i tried to do it "my way"...

              Let others failures lead you to the path of success..

              I am stubborn and it took me many years to figure out that maybe "my way" wasn't the best way..
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              • Profile picture of the author morfeus
                Hey totally get what u mean marketsmart
                But what i was more inclined to do is have a website built for this purpose only, so my chances increase a bit more.
                i know i still have to get the account approved myself, i just dont have the time to build a website from scratch and all that jazz right now, if i can get it done then all the better.
                Sorry didnt explain myself in first post.
                Thanks for your input tho marketsmart much appreciated.
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          • Profile picture of the author Art Lewis
            Originally Posted by marketsmart View Post

            I will just say that I bought mage under the last buy and I will have made my money back by the first of the year..

            Take that for what it's worth...

            Mage is a tool, it's not money tree..

            If you think you are going to buy it and do a little work and make piles of money, then don't buy it..

            If you want to streamline your blogging process and focus on the parts of a blog that make a lot of money, (you know what I am talking about) then buy it..
            You state that you will have made your money back by the first of the year....you are counting your chickens before they are hatched. LOL.
            When making an investment decision one looks at the risks to rewards ratio and ROI. A 30 day trial is not enough to determine that. Greg Jacobs is placing a greater degree of risk on the buyer. I don't buy a product on a whim or a prayer, if these are your reasons to buy it. And I certainly don't need a lecture in blogging basics.
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            • Profile picture of the author marketsmart
              Originally Posted by Art Lewis View Post

              You state that you will have made your money back by the first of the year....you are counting your chickens before they are hatched. LOL.
              When making an investment decision one looks at the risks to rewards ratio and ROI. A 30 day trial is not enough to determine that. Greg Jacobs is placing a greater degree of risk on the buyer. I don't buy a product on a whim or a prayer, if these are your reasons to buy it. And I certainly don't need a lecture in blogging basics.
              Then you should already know. When buying a tool, one should look at what the roi will be. I can tell you that when I said I will make my money back by the first of the year, that was based on current income projections x amount of days left in current year.

              Every business person should base their roi on current results and not what they think would/should happen.

              I am not trying to give anyone a lecture and I would expect everyone to make their own educated decision. I was merely posting what my expectations were (from my own personal experience) as I felt that people making assumptions on the worth of the application without any personal experience was not a fair evaluation of the product.

              Personally, I would prefer if no one else bought the product.

              As with any IM tool, you will get what you put into it. A person can buy any tool, but without action a person can't expect magical things to happen.

              All I can say is that this tool will increase productivity (if you already possess, the core fundamentals of blogging and keyword research), but without a foundation in the basics, this tool will just sit in the tool box collecting dust..

              I think Gregg has put together a good product and the training that will help even the novice to have success, but no one is going to sit next to you at your computer and make sure you do the work involved to make money...
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      • Profile picture of the author Art Lewis
        Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

        dont know if I am supposed to do this here, so mods feel free to delete, but I just made a code for warriors

        $300 off

        "warriormage"
        Is the code $300 off "warriormage" for warriors on top of the " $300 off "letmein" code?
        That might tip the scales for me to try it out.
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        • Profile picture of the author papeter
          How does this WP Mage compare with Andrew Hansen's FIREPOW2 which seems to me to do the same thing. With FP2 you have a monthly fee of $127 which over 12 months works out more expensive than $1300 for WPM. Andrew Hansen has an excellent internet pedigree and I am not saying Greg Hasn't but I have never heard of him until just now.

          I just want a blog system for putting up multiple 2/3 page Landing Pages for CPA and general affiliate marketing. I am not interested in Ebay nor Amazon! So would FP2 do the trick for me?


          Thanks for any input will be most appreciated.
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          • Profile picture of the author JV619
            How do I sign up for the 60-day free trial of Adept Mage?

            I have a landing page for Adept Mage where it shows the 60-day free trial but when I click the button I get the sign-up page for Master Mage with The $1297 price tag.

            Thanks.
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          • Originally Posted by papeter View Post

            How does this WP Mage compare with Andrew Hansen's FIREPOW2 which seems to me to do the same thing. With FP2 you have a monthly fee of $127 which over 12 months works out more expensive than $1300 for WPM. Andrew Hansen has an excellent internet pedigree and I am not saying Greg Hasn't but I have never heard of him until just now.

            I just want a blog system for putting up multiple 2/3 page Landing Pages for CPA and general affiliate marketing. I am not interested in Ebay nor Amazon! So would FP2 do the trick for me?


            Thanks for any input will be most appreciated.
            You could look up WP Robot ... check my post below for more details.

            Hope this helps ...

            Andy
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          • Profile picture of the author 60MinuteAffiliate
            Originally Posted by papeter View Post

            How does this WP Mage compare with Andrew Hansen's FIREPOW2 which seems to me to do the same thing. With FP2 you have a monthly fee of $127 which over 12 months works out more expensive than $1300 for WPM. Andrew Hansen has an excellent internet pedigree and I am not saying Greg Hasn't but I have never heard of him until just now.

            I just want a blog system for putting up multiple 2/3 page Landing Pages for CPA and general affiliate marketing. I am not interested in Ebay nor Amazon! So would FP2 do the trick for me?


            Thanks for any input will be most appreciated.
            Hi there

            I can't talk about wp mage because i'm not a user but i am a long term firepow 1 and 2 user.

            I use firepow and recommend firepow for exactly what you're talking about - creating niche blogging sites of a few pages and posts and promoting affiliate products or your own products yourself.

            I don't promote ebay products or amazon products myself but focus on digital and physical products and while working full time I've managed to create $20,000 per month income while doing such....that's by having multiple blogs across multiple niches.

            You could say I'm more from the old fashioned school of blogging rather than auto blogging somuch (though fp does have some features that go towards that too)....and I also create my blogs for the long term and also to make them as valuable as possible should i ever wish to sell a few of them for quick cash generation.

            Hope that helps.

            Colleen
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  • Profile picture of the author thinredline
    To me, the biggest concern about WPMage model is its strategy closely related to EPN. Yes you can argue that WPMage is not only limited to EPN, you can use Overstock, Adsense, Amazon, CJ, etc. But, I noticed that for most of WPMage users their income is primarily from EPN. This is a fact: no EPN no WPMage success. I know several WPMage users have their accounts banned for various reasons. Plus, there are upcoming click bot issues that plague users for a while. There are risks to tie your business strategy to a particular affiliate program. for people without EPN like me, the diffculty is even larger to make decent profit. Could any WPMage user step out and claim that most of his or her profit is NOT from EPN?

    My other concern is that CPMage does not support Bluehost and some other hosting companies, so I have to buy new hosting plan and move many of my sites around. This is additional cost and hassle.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    Greg has listened to those who said it's too much money up front. He's just changed the pricing structure to 3 installments of $347 if you use coupon code MAKEITEASY. It ends up being a little more than $997, but people are telling me they prefer to pay smaller amounts, even if it costs them more in the long run. Hopefully, within 3 months, that payment won't be a big deal.

    One thing to note.. Greg's method involves using expired domains. With many new mage on board, they are selling out fast. But I'm really doing just fine with new domains. I did splurge a little and bought a couple really nice expired domains from the auctions using the domain mage tool that comes even with just teh adept membership. I figure, though, that 20 new domains will probably do just as well as 2 or 3 expired domains. I will continue to track and report.
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      One thing to note.. Greg's method involves using expired domains. With many new mage on board, they are selling out fast. But I'm really doing just fine with new domains. I did splurge a little and bought a couple really nice expired domains from the auctions using the domain mage tool that comes even with just teh adept membership. I figure, though, that 20 new domains will probably do just as well as 2 or 3 expired domains. I will continue to track and report.
      I agree AmyKay. I'm using new domains almost exclusively now and doing fine with them.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobertRusso
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      • Originally Posted by RobertRusso View Post

        AmyKay, when working with WP Mage, how big of a difference do you really think there will be when using expired domain names versus new ones in several months time? Of course there is a huge benefit to age & authority, but can you be sure of that domains true quality?

        I think if you want to target a niche, you might just be better off getting a name that fits. Unless you find a super gem of an expired name, most of them are probably expired for good reason. It may even be a little risky because we'll never really know all of the history of a name or what the Goog truly thinks of it before it's reactivated.

        Also as I'd mentioned previously, Greg was wise to allow a payment plan. He doesn't appear to have lost touch with how this down economy has affected so many people. Now with smaller payments coupled with discount / coupon codes, WPMage will be much more accessible. Most folks can handle $347 to start.
        Does buying old domains have anything to do with the back dating of posts, which WP Mage allows to do?

        Does anyone know if having posts older than the domain age will cause a Google slap?

        I'm curious.

        Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    Yes - I too am getting ready to switch to using new domains. I have spent about $500 on expired domains in the past month and, while it was lots of fun to hunt, bid and buy, the party is over.

    $5 domains aren't $5 domains when GoDaddy makes you renew them and $12.50 (approx.) each adds up fast. I bought several $10 auctions also.

    The .info's are starting to look really good.
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    • Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      Yes - I too am getting ready to switch to using new domains. I have spent about $500 on expired domains in the past month and, while it was lots of fun to hunt, bid and buy, the party is over.

      $5 domains aren't $5 domains when GoDaddy makes you renew them and $12.50 (approx.) each adds up fast. I bought several $10 auctions also.

      The .info's are starting to look really good.
      Good point about future costs ... hopefully the revenue from the website will more than cover the future costs ...

      Andy
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      • Profile picture of the author epbiz
        Hi

        What is EPN?
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        • Profile picture of the author twinmom
          Originally Posted by epbiz View Post

          Hi

          What is EPN?
          Ebay Partner Network.
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  • Profile picture of the author allenjohn
    Hi - It looks a winner to me, but the obvious question is this. As anyone costed the whole exercise? i.e. how many hours/dollars invested? How many $$$ returned? I understand the ongoing income situation, but has anyone arrived at a break even point yet? i.e. How many do you need to build to recoup the investment and make money? How long before the investment is made? Your thoughts would be welcome, as I am likely to buy today. Thanks, Allen
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  • Profile picture of the author allenjohn
    This is what also concerns me. Can anyone share a url that has been built using this tool? I have found this one from this thread:

    Lady Clothes | Dog and Pet Supply

    Basically, it is garbage, followed by a load of ebay? links. This will surely go the way of Traffic Hurricane and all the other automated trash generators? Judge for yourself:


    how to repair my Kenmore washer lady?
    The washer is a direct drive washer. Washer hums but does not work. Water will escape and then on the floor.
    Snoring is one thing, and the flight is another. you need a store



    Sorry, the jury is out at the moment, can anyone convince them to come back in with a verdict? Please let me know. Thanks, Allen
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    • Profile picture of the author cheeze69
      Originally Posted by allenjohn View Post

      This is what also concerns me. Can anyone share a url that has been built using this tool? I have found this one from this thread:
      Allen,

      Here is another I found: www.hogwildauctions.com

      If you click on pretty much anything in the tag cloud (i.e. not a "front facing" page), you'll see the low quality translated stuff similar to what you found.

      For example, in reference to Harley motorcycles if you click the "casket" tag, you see stuff like "Instead of bringing a smile to your audience, you get a joke! People like waiting and want feel welcome and well treated."

      Clearly, this would not pass *anybody's* manual inspection for anything to do with Harleys. Actually, if you spoke like that around most bikers, they'd kick your ass on the spot

      This stuff may work for a while, but like someone else said, I'd be terrified of Google sending even their most retarded trained chimp over to review the sites and getting your entire account banned.

      BTW, nothing against the owner of that site - it's just a good example. One a side note, the owner clearly spent some time writing/adding some real content to the front-facing pages so that the average person (who doesn't click tags) will see reasonably written content. Perhaps this "hybrid" type of site is worthwhile - auto-blogged stuff for the engines, and OK stuff for humans. I guess it depends on how Google feels when reviewing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    "Snoring is one thing, and the flight is another. you need a store"

    How many times has that phrase been back and forward through the Translation Tool?

    People who think they are going to make money from these sites using Adsense, think again. Once you start making a couple of thousand a month with Adsense, they monitor your sites closely and sometimes send in their 'human readers' to check the quality. With content such as the above, your account will be closed.

    Pearson
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      That's why I never use translation tools. You don't have to with the mage system.

      IMO, you really should take the time to build out your sites with your own content on the frontend ... use original and rewritten plr articles ... and attempt to make your sites look less like they came off a cookie cutter press. A lot of people are into instant success ... but, even though the mage system allows instant site building and monetization, a person is rather naive to throw up sites with no thought at all of their quality. A better option is to use the mage system ... not as an end-all ... but as a jumping off place.

      To each his own ... but "quality first" is, in my opinion, the best road to take.

      And, I'm still making money ....

      Linda
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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
        You are absolutely right Linda, so what is the point of having an overpriced automated system that can spit out thousands of junk pages if you are rewriting or writing content yourself? Plain old vanilla wordpress plus the the plugins will do the trick.

        Originally Posted by Linda Van Fleet View Post

        That's why I never use translation tools. You don't have to with the mage system.

        IMO, you really should take the time to build out your sites with your own content on the frontend ... use original and rewritten plr articles ... and attempt to make your sites look less like they came off a cookie cutter press. A lot of people are into instant success ... but, even though the mage system allows instant site building and monetization, a person is rather naive to throw up sites with no thought at all of their quality. A better option is to use the mage system ... not as an end-all ... but as a jumping off place.

        To each his own ... but "quality first" is, in my opinion, the best road to take.

        And, I'm still making money ....

        Linda
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        • Profile picture of the author twinmom
          Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

          You are absolutely right Linda, so what is the point of having an overpriced automated system that can spit out thousands of junk pages if you are rewriting or writing content yourself? Plain old vanilla wordpress plus the the plugins will do the trick.
          This is WPMage Review thread. If you haven't used the product yourself first hand (and I mean the whole Master setup), you can't really say that other programs/plugins will do the same thing.

          I'm using WPMage with great success and my sites aren't junk pages. They are making me money! And that is what we are here for, isn't it? I'm not here to make "pretty" sites that I can show off. I'm here to feed my family and WPMage is doing a pretty good job at it.

          Tracy
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          • Profile picture of the author RBadgley
            Originally Posted by twinmom View Post

            This is WPMage Review thread. If you haven't used the product yourself first hand (and I mean the whole Master setup), you can't really say that other programs/plugins will do the same thing.

            I'm using WPMage with great success and my sites aren't junk pages. They are making me money! And that is what we are here for, isn't it? I'm not here to make "pretty" sites that I can show off. I'm here to feed my family and WPMage is doing a pretty good job at it.

            Tracy
            For now untill google or ebay cathes up to you
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      • Originally Posted by Linda Van Fleet View Post

        That's why I never use translation tools. You don't have to with the mage system.

        IMO, you really should take the time to build out your sites with your own content on the frontend ... use original and rewritten plr articles ... and attempt to make your sites look less like they came off a cookie cutter press. A lot of people are into instant success ... but, even though the mage system allows instant site building and monetization, a person is rather naive to throw up sites with no thought at all of their quality. A better option is to use the mage system ... not as an end-all ... but as a jumping off place.

        To each his own ... but "quality first" is, in my opinion, the best road to take.

        And, I'm still making money ....

        Linda
        Valuable point Linda ... maintaining quality content on websites we build as Internet marketers is to be regarded as an honorable duty.

        The key is having original quality content and only use products like the Mage to provide auxiliary supporting content. No harm in this approach and your site would not be banned for duplicate content (if there is such a ban).

        Cheers,

        Andy
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        • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
          I don't doubt that the mage has a slick interface and all of the bells and whistles. But I keep reading various people say that you have to spend time rewriting PLR or using original content. Which is all fine and correct but can somebody give me a good reason to use a mass automation tool like wpmage if you are spending your time producing good content? It just doesn't add up..

          Surely the whole point of using something like wpmage is so that you can throw up thousands of junky duplicate pages like the example given earlier in the thread. I just don't see how wpmage can fit in to the "building quality sites" way of doing things.

          I am not trying to be derogatory or anything, it is a genuine question.

          Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

          It's been an interesting ride watching and participating in this thread. I did go over and look at the page for the "cheaper alternative" to wp mage and, while there are some good tools there, I find quite a few missing. Like Greg said, if you have the time to go out and put a bunch of pieces together, that's great.

          The whole point of this is "turnkey" and scaling. with regards to the "cheaper alternatives", I didn't investigate but highly doubt there is a huge active forum community centered around that 'system'. what about keyword research, domain acquisition, help with affiliate programs? I assume those are other "pieces" i'd have to go out and find...
          Originally Posted by creativentrepreneur View Post

          Valuable point Linda ... maintaining quality content on websites we build as Internet marketers is to be regarded as an honorable duty.

          The key is having original quality content and only use products like the Mage to provide auxiliary supporting content. No harm in this approach and your site would not be banned for duplicate content (if there is such a ban).

          Cheers,

          Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
    It's been an interesting ride watching and participating in this thread. I did go over and look at the page for the "cheaper alternative" to wp mage and, while there are some good tools there, I find quite a few missing. Like Greg said, if you have the time to go out and put a bunch of pieces together, that's great.

    The whole point of this is "turnkey" and scaling. with regards to the "cheaper alternatives", I didn't investigate but highly doubt there is a huge active forum community centered around that 'system'. what about keyword research, domain acquisition, help with affiliate programs? I assume those are other "pieces" i'd have to go out and find...
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    • Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      It's been an interesting ride watching and participating in this thread. I did go over and look at the page for the "cheaper alternative" to wp mage and, while there are some good tools there, I find quite a few missing. Like Greg said, if you have the time to go out and put a bunch of pieces together, that's great.

      The whole point of this is "turnkey" and scaling. with regards to the "cheaper alternatives", I didn't investigate but highly doubt there is a huge active forum community centered around that 'system'. what about keyword research, domain acquisition, help with affiliate programs? I assume those are other "pieces" i'd have to go out and find...
      Without doubt WP Mage is a very good system - a very well conceived system that delivers high productivity for an Internet marketer ... I have repeated said it on this forum and on my blog ... it is a 'Cadillac' system at a Cadillac price! For those who can afford it I would wholeheartedly recommend it.

      My post for a cheaper alternative is only targeted at those who expressed disappointment with the price point and not the product per se. Which is the reason why I made the post on my blog and not within this thread.

      With regards to a keyword research tool, my vote goes out to Market Samurai.

      Hope this helps.

      Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author RBadgley
      Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

      It's been an interesting ride watching and participating in this thread. I did go over and look at the page for the "cheaper alternative" to wp mage and, while there are some good tools there, I find quite a few missing. Like Greg said, if you have the time to go out and put a bunch of pieces together, that's great.

      The whole point of this is "turnkey" and scaling. with regards to the "cheaper alternatives", I didn't investigate but highly doubt there is a huge active forum community centered around that 'system'. what about keyword research, domain acquisition, help with affiliate programs? I assume those are other "pieces" i'd have to go out and find...

      There is nothing missing from MS all the tools you need to build quality sites I don't think you read the whole site. Key word research is there affiliate programs also no need to buy anything else and there is not a larger forum than 30DC that is fully is integrated and free with MS.
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      • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
        I think we need Greg to step in here and answer some of these questions and concerns.

        I for one and probably more than a few others here have money ready to spend.

        I have been at this game long enough to not expect miracles.

        I would just like to have some reasonable assurances that these kinds of sites are unlikely to get banned, assuming common sense is applied and only slow growth for the sites etc...

        So Greg, please step in and let us know your thoughts.

        Thanks,
        Sam
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        • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
          Sam, you mentioned the word common sense, just answer the question yourself, do you think Google would like to see mass produced, low quality sites full of ebay/amazon/adsense ads in it's index? Your answer to that will tell you whether these sites will stick around.

          Before someone says it is possible to build high quality sites with wpmage, I understand that, but why would you want to when wordpress and a few plugins can achieve the same thing?

          Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

          I think we need Greg to step in here and answer some of these questions and concerns.

          I for one and probably more than a few others here have money ready to spend.

          I have been at this game long enough to not expect miracles.

          I would just like to have some reasonable assurances that these kinds of sites are unlikely to get banned, assuming common sense is applied and only slow growth for the sites etc...

          So Greg, please step in and let us know your thoughts.

          Thanks,
          Sam
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

          So Greg, please step in and let us know your thoughts.

          Thanks,
          Sam
          I assume these questions below?


          Originally Posted by anteck View Post

          1. Google Slapping any of these sites right out of the SERPS
          2. EPN Booting anyone sending traffic from these sites


          A.

          1 - I get maybe 20% of my sites deindexed. - another 30% get a small trickle - 40% are average earners and 10% are homeruns
          Doesnt really bother me. I am pretty messy about my sites as well, preferring quantity to quality. All ney-sayers and haters aside. It earns me good income and that is really my concern.

          2 - First off, people shouldn't be so concerned with EPN. Its just one of many ways. I even made a video on MAGE Adsense sites for you guys
          WORDPRESS MAGE :: TRAINING VIDEOS

          I am not the authoritative expert on Adsense and It is just a quicky- and most of this video is learned from others that understand it better than me, but it should get you thinking at least.

          Though if you still want to know about EPN, they are pretty much certified off the handle. They pay well and sometimes people get hit. No real correlation between the Mage except that people that use the Mage earn more monies. Its a dangerous jungle out there. The Mage is just a tool.

          Hope that answers everybodies questions
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Speaking with my moderator's hat on, I'm slightly concerned that this thread has become dominated by posters with very few posts to their name and with links to VERY THIN "review sites".

    Speaking as an expert on Adsense, who makes a full-time living from this, I want to warn everybody that the Adsense team take SITE QUALITY very seriously indeed. I have three close friends who have been banned by Adsense because of this. I have received three warning letters from Google myself. The sites that we have been shown in this thread will not be acceptable to Adsense.

    So you'd better find a different way to make money from such sites. Ebay? Amazon?

    Pearson
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Thanks for the warning Pearson.

    I am still interested in this WP Mage however, if it can help us with something...

    We have hundreds of domain names, and perhaps a hundred or two with no content yet. Just the domain names. Many of which are keyword rich for our various niches.

    Getting these off the ground just hasn't happened yet for a couple of years as we have so many other things too.

    So can WP Mage be used to get these unused domains up and running?

    As well as mainly automated content can you still add some manual/original content into the sites, just to mix it up even more?

    Also, what kind of themes does this program use?

    Are the sites attractive?

    Basically, we are looking for some automation tools to get these sites up and running and this sounds like it may help.

    Will it?

    Thanks,
    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

      Thanks for the warning Pearson.

      I am still interested in this WP Mage however, if it can help us with something...

      We have hundreds of domain names, and perhaps a hundred or two with no content yet. Just the domain names. Many of which are keyword rich for our various niches.

      Getting these off the ground just hasn't happened yet for a couple of years as we have so many other things too.

      So can WP Mage be used to get these unused domains up and running?

      As well as mainly automated content can you still add some manual/original content into the sites, just to mix it up even more?

      Also, what kind of themes does this program use?

      Are the sites attractive?

      Basically, we are looking for some automation tools to get these sites up and running and this sounds like it may help.

      Will it?

      Thanks,
      Sam
      Hi Sam.
      If you are an adept mage user, look at the advanced mage video tutorial.
      This will show you how to customize the templates in any way you like.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe118
    Hi Greg (and everyone else) -- can you tell me a bit about footprints that are going to identify the Mage built sites to Google? I'm still recalling with horror what happened to BANS sites, how they started getting slapped by Google...

    Just worried and its a chunk of money, so... If you have any opinion (or even better, facts) on this, please chime in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Treby
    Have been internet marketing for a few years with some small success-would have to say Ebay network has been the best-in fact since they changed to clicks made more money-My question is this-have used Php software for a year like the affiliate mage plugin also a member of CJ(Commision Junction) but do not see any hits from overstock there-thought maybe I should join Overstock throught CJ-still waiting-so should I still put the link to Overstock or not-been with CJ for 2 years-just a little confused-must say if you get the right keywords on mage affiliate works well,but takes a bit of know how,same as php. had many sites with Bans,left that a bit as got de-indexed even with great content-the other thing that worries me is Adsense-should I or not-some sites I have it on make peanuts and been sandboxed-sorry to go on-any advice greatly taken
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Hey who's picking on my doggie site! That was the first one i threw up. And "threw" is the operative word. I didn't really know what I was doing back then. I'm one of the original Beta testers. I made the mistake of whacking in 3000 keywords and translating content like crazy. I was Beta testing it remember? The screwy posts were from a bug in Version 1 of the Keyword Tool. It's since been sorted. But you know what? I thought about trawling right through all the content and removing the irrelevant stuff and then I found myself reading some of it and actually being interested in the eBay product shown. How mad is that? So I left it. Does it really look that bad?

    Bottom line: the thing works. Will Google ban Mage sites? Who knows what Google will and won't do? For now, I'm making money while the sun shines. And anything that makes that easier gets my vote.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nerubriv
      On the sales page it says about Affiliate Mage:

      When you visit CJ.com and ClickBank.com you will see the almost endless different products or services you can promote.
      but in the sales letter it only lists epn, amazon, adsense, and overstock.

      So can a person use clickbank products with the Affiliate Mage? Or is that something that would need to be added manually?

      EDITED: I went and watched you adsense video and saw a clickbank area in the monetization area, so it would seem you can easily use clickbank.

      Would a person be able to create custom templates?

      Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
        yes - there are a lot of people creating customized templates in wp mage. I'm not quite that advanced yet.

        and yes, it has the clickbank function as part of the plugins. obviously with the templates, you can add anything you want in, such as Pepperjam or any other networks. a lot of potential.

        I did create a site where I replaced all of the adsense sections with banner ads from relevant Pepperjam affiliates - just because that's where they happened to be.
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        • Profile picture of the author Nerubriv
          Thanks Tricia.

          Can this be used on addon domains? And do you know if php 5 is required?
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    Mike M - WP Mage uses addon domains.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nerubriv
      Thanks for the info everybody. Now just gotta make a decision.

      It's a lot of money, and I've invested in other high price items and been burned by them.
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  • Profile picture of the author zapseo
    Could someone please explain (yes, technical info is okay) why hostgator is not recommended -- and what is the feature of hosts that are recommended that makes them recommended ?

    Thanks,

    Judy Kettenhofen
    copywriting, webmastering, script installs & more
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  • Profile picture of the author madmonko
    Hostgator reseller account is OK. Hostgator shared account is not recommended. So if you have hostgator reseller account CP Mage should work fine. As to why hostgator shared account is not recommend I have no data on. As Trish said there are other hosting companies that are recommended for shared accounts. At $5/month you can host 20 to 30 websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nerubriv
    Here is another I found:hogwildauctions.com
    Are you sure that's a wpmage site. It's using the flixibility theme and phpbay pro for the auction listing.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    I have gone back to the beginning of this thread and read the whole thing again!!!

    I am slightly dizzy but here are some questions:

    1)

    Firstly, what struck me early on was a rather vicious attack on Greg and WP Mage by AskLoz. He was really being ripped into. This ran for many postings and was about the apparent failings of WP Mage.

    Later in this thread, with no explanation, AskLoz seems to be saying it is ok and he has suddenly built 1,600 sites with it. He seems to done a complete about-face.

    What gives???

    2)

    Can WP Mage be used to create sites which pulls in content from other sites that you specify yourself. Here I am thinking of some of the many sites we already own that have content we own.

    3)

    What do users of WP Mage think of this idea:

    We sell hundreds of our own physical products in our niches. Can we create sites and turn off adsense, EPN, Amazon and other similar monetization methods and just pimp/advertise our own products on the related sites we create?

    In other words, use WP Mage to pull in relevant content around our products, but the montetization consists solely of selling our products.

    4)

    Are the people at WP Mage headquarters (Greg etc..) able to see what users are doing on their sites somehow? In other words is there any "secret" code in the software that deviously spills the beans on our efforts to the creators of the software?


    I hope someone and or Greg can answer these questions.

    Many thanks.

    Sam
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      Has anyone used the Heatmap theme with this software?
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    Well you folks are much more technically advanced than I am - which wouldn't be tough - so I can't offer any educated thoughts on footprints and Google slapping us around.

    What I can say, is that using WP Mage, I built 11 sites in a couple of days and I think they look pretty good. I opted not to use the translation feature after trying it once and being a bit disappointed in the output. Mind you, I'm the type of guy who's amazed at the number of people who post on this forum, seemingly without proofreading their submission before clicking reply.

    But I digress.

    I think the two big things to do with the Mage is to take the time to alter the posts a bit, or at least the first few (maybe use WP Sticky), and not to post 10,000 articles per blog.

    In my 11 blogs, I have a combined total of just over 15,000 posts. Now that may be all wrong and perhaps I'm not taking as much of an advantage with the software as I could. As I said, I'm not that technical.

    But it's early days still, and I have no real knowledge as to the income potential of the product. My main concern is that I still may not have a good idea of that when the 30-day guarantee period ends. Mine will end three weeks from tonight and I'm sure that I'll know more than I do now - but will I be confident enough to bet a significant amount of money on it?

    Kind of exciting, though.
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    • Originally Posted by Doiron View Post


      I think the two big things to do with the Mage is to take the time to alter the posts a bit, or at least the first few (maybe use WP Sticky), and not to post 10,000 articles per blog.
      Excellent approach Doiron ... with this mindset, I'm sure your efforts will bear fruit in the mid to long term.

      Look forward to hearing of your results on Day 30.

      Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      Originally Posted by Joe118 View Post

      Hi Greg (and everyone else) -- can you tell me a bit about footprints that are going to identify the Mage built sites to Google? I'm still recalling with horror what happened to BANS sites, how they started getting slapped by Google...

      Just worried and its a chunk of money, so... If you have any opinion (or even better, facts) on this, please chime in.
      After the site is built it is a Wordpress site - the mage is mostly removed and the content is hard coded just like you wrote it yourself. You can adjust it as you please with the modular templates. Since it is customizable -you can do 1000 little tweaks and make it completely orginial
      (and ultimetly be left with a wordpress site with lots of content)

      Originally Posted by zapseo View Post

      Could someone please explain (yes, technical info is okay) why hostgator is not recommended -- and what is the feature of hosts that are recommended that makes them recommended ?

      Thanks,

      Judy Kettenhofen
      copywriting, webmastering, script installs & more
      The mage usually works fine with Hostgator, but we jsut found from experince that they have many "burned" IP addresses meaning that lots of the IP's they give to their shared hosting accounts are banned from alot of webservices.

      Most of the time it works fine though. So if you already have a HG shared account go for it!


      Originally Posted by Nerubriv View Post

      Thanks Tricia.

      Can this be used on addon domains? And do you know if php 5 is required?
      yes php5 is required . (noobs dont worry, this is 99% of the time pre-installed so you dont even have to know what this means)

      Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

      I have gone back to the beginning of this thread and read the whole thing again!!!

      I am slightly dizzy but here are some questions:

      1)

      Firstly, what struck me early on was a rather vicious attack on Greg and WP Mage by AskLoz. He was really being ripped into. This ran for many postings and was about the apparent failings of WP Mage.

      Later in this thread, with no explanation, AskLoz seems to be saying it is ok and he has suddenly built 1,600 sites with it. He seems to done a complete about-face.

      What gives???

      2)

      Can WP Mage be used to create sites which pulls in content from other sites that you specify yourself. Here I am thinking of some of the many sites we already own that have content we own.

      3)

      What do users of WP Mage think of this idea:

      We sell hundreds of our own physical products in our niches. Can we create sites and turn off adsense, EPN, Amazon and other similar monetization methods and just pimp/advertise our own products on the related sites we create?

      In other words, use WP Mage to pull in relevant content around our products, but the montetization consists solely of selling our products.

      4)

      Are the people at WP Mage headquarters (Greg etc..) able to see what users are doing on their sites somehow? In other words is there any "secret" code in the software that deviously spills the beans on our efforts to the creators of the software?


      I hope someone and or Greg can answer these questions.

      Many thanks.

      Sam
      To answer your questions

      1 - I gave Loz a demo so he actually saw how it works

      2 - We are working on an addition to content mage which will work though pipes or RSS feeds so you can custom specify places to pull content. This is on our roadmap (yes we update alot and are not going away)

      3 - Yes, I have one user who is specfically using the mage to build niche sites for the sole purpose of building his opt-in list. So you can do many things

      4 -That is the last thing we would ever worry about. We have a mountain of tasks in front of us and even if we got some free time, I think we would rather use it to go to the beach for a day.
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        • Profile picture of the author afxx
          I just signed up to the free one yesterday & was going to do the full Master today....Oh well.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Thanks for the reply Greg.

    I am in.

    Is it still available?

    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author afxx
      Greg, is the Mage still available for purchase?
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    • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
      I still don't know what php5 is but, per Greg, yes it's required. lol.

      my standard forum posting disclaimer ("i'm wrong all the time")

      -to answer the question above, the Mage did close last night. Not sure if it will re-open or not soon.

      perhaps there is a way to get in if you are signed up as an Adept member. Either way - sign up if it allows you to do so asap and it may reopen (soon).
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    Perhaps most hosts use php5 but oddly, LunarPages uses 4.4.9. No good for the Mage. I can't even put WP Robot on it.
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      • Profile picture of the author huntingman
        Hey guys,

        Having read through the forum there seems to be many people asking what WPMage can do, whether or not you can use it for certain things etc - or if it's useful at all.

        Well, I bought the Master Mage and have built 6 sites so far, playing around with the settings. It is far more than other autoblogging software or plugins.

        Basically, Master Mage is as profitable, customizable and as useful as you make it.

        If you want to follow Greg's outline and make lots of sites quickly monetizing with ebay - you can. There are plenty of people in the forums making a lot of money doing just that.

        If you want to build niche mini-sites with original content and then add an 'archive' catagory with ten, a hundred or thousands of pages - you can.

        If you have a profitable site in the weightloss niche, you can install WPMage and 'pimp' it with thousands of pages of content - drawing loads of long-tail visitors to your site and make money just as you do with your other pages.

        If you have a profitable opt-in/subscriber list - you can build 10s of niche-topical sites and add an opt-in box to the sidebar.

        You can translate the content from english to french and back to give your articles a unique spin - or not.

        You can translate it from english to spanish and enter the spanish language market.

        If you want to promote a profitable CJ offer - you can just plug-in a domain to CPMage, add keywords, click build and then log-in and add a CJ banner with any ad plugin you like.

        You can spend a buck on a new .info and add 50,000 posts with amazon products.

        You can spend a $1000 on an old high PR domain, build it up, add original articles, create a customized template, build more backlinks to it, and have WPMage backdate as many posts as you like and drip feed more everyday.

        Personally I'm going to be making all kinds of sites with it. Some few hundred page adsense sites, some thousand page amazon product sites, and some huge multi-catagorical, many tens-of-thousands of page sites monetizing anyway I choose.

        It really is like anything else, its a tool that is only as useful as you make it. Greg has created a system that you genuinely can make money by clicking buttons and making sites quickly.
        But it is also more than that, as you can take each piece and turn it on, off or cutomize it (varying degrees of technical skills required) and make any kind of site you want.

        I hope that helps anyone thats interested in what this does.

        Take it easy, Alex ('machgroup' - WPMage Forum)
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      • Profile picture of the author Nakkers
        I am new to the warrior forums and seen your product for the first time over the weekend and would like to buy it but unfortunately it is now closed.

        Does anyone have an estimate of when/if it will reopen for sale?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fendi Salim
    Glad the Mage system is closed!

    Since this is a review thread, for those who've bought it, promoted it in your links, do update this thread with your results review in your blogs and in this thread as this is a review thread afterall.

    I don't own it myself and along with many others would love to see success for any warrior. Best of luck to all Mages. The non-mages will still be on their way. Hum hum hum....
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  • Profile picture of the author jokarl
    Hmmm wont these kind of programs end up flooding the web with a lot of useless content? Either it will get banned or the web will get swamped?
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    WendyT - WP Robot requires php5.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      Well, here's my little review so far...
      I'm still trying to find ways to get key words to fit my sites.
      I don't use ebay, because they are lacking in humanity, in my humble opinion...
      The two ways to get key words seem to be very lacking...

      I have just erased my review until I can give it one more chance to work for me...
      It wasn't a very good review, but I am still going to give it the benefit of the doubt...
      Since I have spent so many hundreds of dollars on domains for this, I need to keep trying and not give up until
      I know that it just won't work as a quality site system.
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
        Okay, things are looking a lot better, now that I have done more
        testing and changing some techniques.

        Looks like there may be a light at the end of this tunnel.
        Having made a few changes in my technique, I think this software is definitely
        very well engineered.
        Just have to have patience and perseverance when first starting out...

        Moving forward...
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
          Okay, things are looking a lot better, now that I have done more
          testing and changing some techniques.

          Looks like there may be a light at the end of this tunnel.
          Having made a few changes in my technique, I think this software is definitely
          very well engineered.
          Just have to have patience and perseverance when first starting out...

          Moving forward...
          What did you differently that has you feeling encouraged?
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        I don't use ebay, because they are lacking in humanity, in my humble opinion...
        I don't understand.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
          To Metronicity

          I would have PM this to you but could not PM beacause I don´t have 50 posts yet.
          Yes, I´m new on this forum.

          LOL I´m certainly not an expert and no offense was meant by the comment. Please don´t publish it. Had I known it was yours I would have PMéd you instead.( but as we can see, I wouldn´t have been able to)

          I should have thought that you already knew about the comments on WF about it. Just thought you might want to know about it.
          i´m glad to hear your site is profitable and I see your point. We´re not making masterpieces here, we´re making money.
          I will certainly remember this PM when making my own sites.
          Once again, no offense meant and congratulations.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketsmart
    is anyone doing well just using adsense and amazon on their mage sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author lockch
    I have bought the WPMage but dare not try it out yet after pausing to think what would happen if I just post thousands of backdated posts on an old domain blog..
    If I get de-indexed...Google will search for other sites that I own and ban them as well?
    Moreover, the contents are duplicates?
    I got banned from playing a fool with google adsense before...and certainly do not want to get thrown into the dungeon (again)..can someone pls advice?
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    • Originally Posted by lockch View Post

      I have bought the WPMage but dare not try it out yet after pausing to think what would happen if I just post thousands of backdated posts on an old domain blog..
      If I get de-indexed...Google will search for other sites that I own and ban them as well?
      Moreover, the contents are duplicates?
      I got banned from playing a fool with google adsense before...and certainly do not want to get thrown into the dungeon (again)..can someone pls advice?

      YES ... this is the biggest risk you face if you go down this road ...

      You need to use the Mage differently ... use the auto content only as supplementary content ... make sure your site has lots of unique keyword-optimized quality content .... then you will find applications like WP Mage, Site Profit Bot, and other similar solutions a great time saver with the potential to generate income for you without getting you into trouble.

      Hope this helps.

      Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author lockch
      Originally Posted by affiliated survivor View Post

      You should lock your website. Everybody can see everything and download all your ebboks.
      Thanks..I have done that
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    nevermind, already addressed....
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    There are people making big money with autoblogs, but you need to create tons of them for it to work.

    For those who say it doesn't work, you just don't know how to do it correctly!

    Don't really know if this product will help with that or not, but it's just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
      That might be true, but they are never EVER going to last and don't believe anyone who tells you different. If you want to spend your time and energy effectively chasing your tail on an autoblog hamster wheel just to make a few bucks.. Go ahead.

      The smarter way to the land of milk and honey is to build sites people actually want!

      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      There are people making big money with autoblogs, but you need to create tons of them for it to work.

      For those who say it doesn't work, you just don't know how to do it correctly!

      Don't really know if this product will help with that or not, but it's just my 2 cents.
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      • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
        Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

        That might be true, but they are never EVER going to last and don't believe anyone who tells you different. If you want to spend your time and energy effectively chasing your tail on an autoblog hamster wheel just to make a few bucks.. Go ahead.

        The smarter way to the land of milk and honey is to build sites people actually want!

        Steve,

        I value your comments so far on this thread.

        However, I do question how you can be so certain when you haven't used the product.

        I too believe that the way to go is to build original content.

        But if you have many sites to build, or lots of pages, what is wrong with combining original content with some of the "copied" content.

        If it is decent information, then isn't this good for visitors.

        I think if done sensibly then google shouldn't penalise you.

        What facts are you aware of regarding this?

        Thanks,
        Sam
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        • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
          At the end of the day, wpmage is just a tool, it is how the person uses that tool that determines what the end product will be. I am sure wpmage could be used to create quality sites if the user was so inclined but I question why you would need an expensive product like this to do so?

          Surely the whole point of wpmage is to create massive pages of unoriginal content. The theory being, throw enough mud against the wall and some will stick. I haven't used wpmage, but I have used all sorts of site creation software over the past 7 years? It used to work really well in the early days, but as Google has developed and honed it's algo, these type of sites are getting harder and harder to make money from. I gave up chasing my tail like that a few years back and it is the best thing I could have done!

          It is quite simple really, ask yourself honestly whether Google would welcome these type of autoblogs in it's index? And then ask yourself whether you think Google have the knowhow to find and de-index these types of sites?
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          • Profile picture of the author mido
            Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

            At the end of the day, wpmage is just a tool, it is how the person uses that tool that determines what the end product will be. I am sure wpmage could be used to create quality sites if the user was so inclined but I question why you would need an expensive product like this to do so?
            ...... And then ask yourself whether you think Google have the knowhow to find and de-index these types of sites?
            Steve, the problem is, too many people are using mage with default settings, default themes, default templates, default css, and they don't even follow basic instructions. You have to be creative and mix things up, add some other stuff and sites will come out beautiful.
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        • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
          You are absolutely right Sam! There is nothing wrong with combining unoriginal with your original content. In fact I actually recommend you do this to help bulk out your sites. However, there is a right way and a wrong way to do this. The best way is to choose articles that you have read and know will add something to your site. The wrong way is to scrape hundreds of articles randomly backdating.

          What will happen when googlebot comes sniffing around and suddenly sees hundreds of articles that are already in it's index on other sites?

          Anyway this is getting away from a review thread by a long way so I won't say anything else about wpmage, I have made the point I wanted to express.

          Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

          Steve,

          But if you have many sites to build, or lots of pages, what is wrong with combining original content with some of the "copied" content.

          If it is decent information, then isn't this good for visitors.

          I think if done sensibly then google shouldn't penalise you.

          What facts are you aware of regarding this?

          Thanks,
          Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    Thank you, Steve for your posts in this thread. You've given me something to think about.

    I'm assuming from the degree of certainty you've expressed that you've had a bad personal experience with autoblogging.

    Am I right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    Steve, I think you're still on point in that a review should explore not just the nuts and bolts of a product but also whether the results of using that product are effective in today's climate.

    I asked earlier if you'd tried autoblogging and had bad experiences with it. I think I'm reading the implication in your post that you did but I'm a little simple

    Can you confirm that you've tried this and that it didn't work so well?

    And I'm very interested (as is everyone) about Google's algorithms. You mentioned that "as Google has developed and honed it's algo, these type of sites are getting harder and harder to make money from". Can you point us to the source of this information?

    Thanks for taking the time to help us all make informed decisions on this. My 30 day trial period of the Mage is coming to an end soon and I'm still not convinced either way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
      People have to find their own way to do things and mine is just one opinion among thousands at the end of the day. However, my opinion is based on over 7 years of experience trying many different ways of building sites using techniques from black hat to white.

      The conclusion I eventually came to after several years of this merry-go-round is that it just isn't worth the time and energy trying to find loopholes or ways to manipulate sites into the indexes. Any small successes are short lived.

      The source of my information is in my own testing and experience so I can't point you to anything as such. Except, take a look at the webmaster guidelines Google give. They are very clear as to what they like in their index. You have a stark choice as well when you read them. You can either, work out ways to manipulate them or go with them.. The second option works!

      Originally Posted by Doiron View Post

      Steve, I think you're still on point in that a review should explore not just the nuts and bolts of a product but also whether the results of using that product are effective in today's climate.

      I asked earlier if you'd tried autoblogging and had bad experiences with it. I think I'm reading the implication in your post that you did but I'm a little simple

      Can you confirm that you've tried this and that it didn't work so well?

      And I'm very interested (as is everyone) about Google's algorithms. You mentioned that "as Google has developed and honed it's algo, these type of sites are getting harder and harder to make money from". Can you point us to the source of this information?

      Thanks for taking the time to help us all make informed decisions on this. My 30 day trial period of the Mage is coming to an end soon and I'm still not convinced either way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
        Originally Posted by Andrew74 View Post

        Ok i bought the Mage and have a few days left of my trial period. The whole idea is to buy expired domains from GoDaddy through Domain Mage and built on those that already have authority. However i have experienced there arn't many good domains and the good ones get snaped up pretty quickly. I have spent so much time ( approx 100hrs) trying to get a good domain. Have i got one yet? NO. How many quality wordpress sites can a experienced person built in 100 hrs? is 20 fair? Steve is right use a few plugin's and built quality manual sites and you will probably be doing a quicker and quality job and make more cash. I will be getting a refund. And by the way the training material is not in order, the instructional videos refer to docs that don't exist, web host accounts are getting locked, content doesn't always get imported. I personally find it very frustrating. Thats my honest review.
        sometimes it will be just not correctly suited to the temperments of some people. So we are happy to get yer money back no problems. people have actually told me they are amazed on how easily we will refund if a person asks. Seems to be a birdie for high ticket products. the fact is at the end of the day, whether you stay our customer or not, we want you happy and with goodwill. Though you should have really watched our supplemental video on domain finding We strongly advise not to get caught up in finding the "perfect" domain. More importantly get your hands into the system and learn how to manipulate it first and then you know your foundations and can better move forward. Some people even do fine with an army of new .99 cent .infos. But again it depends on ones temperment.


        Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

        People have to find their own way to do things and mine is just one opinion among thousands at the end of the day. However, my opinion is based on over 7 years of experience trying many different ways of building sites using techniques from black hat to white.

        The conclusion I eventually came to after several years of this merry-go-round is that it just isn't worth the time and energy trying to find loopholes or ways to manipulate sites into the indexes. Any small successes are short lived.

        The source of my information is in my own testing and experience so I can't point you to anything as such. Except, take a look at the webmaster guidelines Google give. They are very clear as to what they like in their index. You have a stark choice as well when you read them. You can either, work out ways to manipulate them or go with them.. The second option works!
        I actually agree with you to a certain extent, but you are also living in somewhat of an idealistic world and preaching from the top (you already made it so can "afford" to have these views) . As generally there are two groups of people that would use the Mage or similar systems.

        1 - People that just want to Earn. they really dont care. They have never earned online (noticeably before) I remember when i earned my first $100. I can tell you it was more exciting than the last 100k

        Any amount of this or that, doesnt mean two bits to them. they just want a formula that creates wealth. black and white bottom line

        2 - The other type of person is already 'in the soup' and like the first person, yes they want to earn, and like the first person they really don't care. If the system works, then run it long and hard. Yes it is a hamster wheel, but it is gold.

        I do not consider myself a "steward" nor "caretaker" of the internet. If it can earn me money and not harm anybody then that is good enough for me. I like your way in the idealistic world, but the cold reality is that it is much harder way to earn, sites get slapped just the same and .....people have mortgages to pay...
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      • Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

        People have to find their own way to do things and mine is just one opinion among thousands at the end of the day. However, my opinion is based on over 7 years of experience trying many different ways of building sites using techniques from black hat to white.

        The conclusion I eventually came to after several years of this merry-go-round is that it just isn't worth the time and energy trying to find loopholes or ways to manipulate sites into the indexes. Any small successes are short lived.

        The source of my information is in my own testing and experience so I can't point you to anything as such. Except, take a look at the webmaster guidelines Google give. They are very clear as to what they like in their index. You have a stark choice as well when you read them. You can either, work out ways to manipulate them or go with them.. The second option works!
        Thanks Steve,

        You have brought in a lot of value to this thread ... I second whatever you have just said in this and the previous posts ...

        I do a hybrid of auto-blogging with unique, valuable content and it has helped my rankings and earnings ... if you mesh both well in a well defined niche (whichever tool you may use), it adds a lot of visitor value in that they don't have to visit different sites to answer their questions ...

        Andy
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        • Profile picture of the author Bondtana
          I've been using the mage system for a little less than 2 months & I love it. I'm relatively new to actually making money in IM. Within a month I was making $12 a day w/ epn & I only had about 4000 total pages indexed across 20 sites. Unfortunately I got the boot from epn and I had to basically start over from scratch (had all my mage eggs in one basket).

          I didnt know a damn thing about adsense and those sites were not geared towards adsense a bit. I just added a few blocks on those sites and I am already making $3-6 a day from them. Eventually I will get back to them & convert. In the meantime I will let Goggle index em.

          I bought it and cancelled it. In the end I felt uncomfortable with the sort of posts it was producing. I still have about 1000 posts up on my personal blog at justinwheeler.net if i am allowed to mention it. They are under the gadgets and travel section. Interestingly one of my friends sent me an email asking if my blog had been hacked... I will take them down in time.
          When you figure out how to approach keyword selection and work on your posting templates, you can really get some nice looking stuff. I was looking at one of my mage sites and realized the posts looked nicer than the ones on my "real" blog lol. Out of the box, it can look very chunky. There is a learning curve to getting good looking and actually informative mage sites.

          I have an expired page rank 0 domain with 60 yahoo backlinks (no big pr links), 2,500 pages indexed & I am getting between 800-1000 visitors a day. And the site is just over 1 month old (they say it takes a good 2 months for sites to start to mature).

          I can't comprehend how anyone could bash this system unless they haven't taken the time to learn it, or are just completely inept. Mage can absolutely generate traffic, what you do with that traffic is up to you and your IM skills. If you are in EPN you can be COMPLETELY BRAINLESS and make good money with WPMage... The system works.

          PS The only reason I'm standing up for the program is because Greg is a good dude. If he weren't I wouldnt even tell any non friends/family about it...
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          • Profile picture of the author sickbaomei
            hi,
            Is there an auto promotion module in the mage ? much like the onlywire multisubmitter
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
            When you figure out how to approach keyword selection and work on your posting templates, you can really get some nice looking stuff. I was looking at one of my mage sites and realized the posts looked nicer than the ones on my "real" blog lol. Out of the box, it can look very chunky. There is a learning curve to getting good looking and actually informative mage sites.
            Hi Bondtana,
            This might be a question better asked on the Mage forum but,
            what have you done to work on your keyword selection that made the sites look nicer? If you want to PM me on the Mage Forum my username there is: tocco
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            • Profile picture of the author Bondtana
              Hi Bondtana,
              This might be a question better asked on the Mage forum but,
              what have you done to work on your keyword selection that made the sites look nicer?
              It's really just about understanding which keyword information exists where and how yahoo,articlebase and youtube pull content when there is no exact match to your keywords. I've built a bunch of sites so far & just learned from experience.

              I think over time, I will be able to create some sites that are pretty damn informative/entertaining, which google would like having in it's system. You need to think outside the box...
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              • Profile picture of the author Bondtana
                First off, you should never just tear down sites. You can take existing posts and rework them completely if you want to. Secondly, if the commission junction stuff isnt working, it will be soon. If I recall from the forum correctly, you have only been maging for a few weeks... Give those sites a few more weeks and you will definitely be making some money with them.



                I have torn down all of my mage sites because the Commission Junction function feature doesn't work.
                I am hoping to make money with adsense also, since I can't get an epn account.
                Since I tore down all of my sites, I only have an article
                and a block or two of adsense.
                In your opinion, Can something like this layout make money and if so,
                do I need the mage system to continue doing this?

                Thanks for any feedback...
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          • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
            I have torn down all of my mage sites because the Commission Junction function feature doesn't work.
            I am hoping to make money with adsense also, since I can't get an epn account.
            Since I tore down all of my sites, I only have an article
            and a block or two of adsense.
            In your opinion, Can something like this layout make money and if so,
            do I need the mage system to continue doing this?

            Thanks for any feedback...

            Originally Posted by Bondtana View Post

            I've been using the mage system for a little less than 2 months & I love it. I'm relatively new to actually making money in IM. Within a month I was making $12 a day w/ epn & I only had about 4000 total pages indexed across 20 sites. Unfortunately I got the boot from epn and I had to basically start over from scratch (had all my mage eggs in one basket).

            I didnt know a damn thing about adsense and those sites were not geared towards adsense a bit. I just added a few blocks on those sites and I am already making $3-6 a day from them. Eventually I will get back to them & convert. In the meantime I will let Goggle index em.

            When you figure out how to approach keyword selection and work on your posting templates, you can really get some nice looking stuff. I was looking at one of my mage sites and realized the posts looked nicer than the ones on my "real" blog lol. Out of the box, it can look very chunky. There is a learning curve to getting good looking and actually informative mage sites.

            I have an expired page rank 0 domain with 60 yahoo backlinks (no big pr links), 2,500 pages indexed & I am getting between 800-1000 visitors a day. And the site is just over 1 month old (they say it takes a good 2 months for sites to start to mature).

            I can't comprehend how anyone could bash this system unless they haven't taken the time to learn it, or are just completely inept. Mage can absolutely generate traffic, what you do with that traffic is up to you and your IM skills. If you are in EPN you can be COMPLETELY BRAINLESS and make good money with WPMage... The system works.

            PS The only reason I'm standing up for the program is because Greg is a good dude. If he weren't I wouldnt even tell any non friends/family about it...
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          • Profile picture of the author pcalvert
            Originally Posted by Bondtana View Post

            I've been using the mage system for a little less than 2 months & I love it. I'm relatively new to actually making money in IM. Within a month I was making $12 a day w/ epn & I only had about 4000 total pages indexed across 20 sites. Unfortunately I got the boot from epn and I had to basically start over from scratch (had all my mage eggs in one basket).
            Why did eBay give you the boot? Didn't like your sites?

            Phil
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            That cat won't sit on a cold stove either." - Mark Twain

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            • Profile picture of the author Bondtana
              They didnt like the "quality of traffic" that I was sending them. If it were the pre ppc system, I would have had a $.28 epc... I know it's hard to understand if you haven't seen it yourself, but there is some real funny business going on over at EPN. That's a story for another thread though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew74
    Ok i bought the Mage and have a few days left of my trial period. The whole idea is to buy expired domains from GoDaddy through Domain Mage and built on those that already have authority. However i have experienced there arn't many good domains and the good ones get snaped up pretty quickly. I have spent so much time ( approx 100hrs) trying to get a good domain. Have i got one yet? NO. How many quality wordpress sites can a experienced person built in 100 hrs? is 20 fair? Steve is right use a few plugin's and built quality manual sites and you will probably be doing a quicker and quality job and make more cash. I will be getting a refund. And by the way the training material is not in order, the instructional videos refer to docs that don't exist, web host accounts are getting locked, content doesn't always get imported. I personally find it very frustrating. Thats my honest review.
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      Originally Posted by Andrew74 View Post

      Ok i bought the Mage and have a few days left of my trial period. The whole idea is to buy expired domains from GoDaddy through Domain Mage and built on those that already have authority. However i have experienced there arn't many good domains and the good ones get snaped up pretty quickly. I have spent so much time ( approx 100hrs) trying to get a good domain. Have i got one yet? NO. How many quality wordpress sites can a experienced person built in 100 hrs? is 20 fair? Steve is right use a few plugin's and built quality manual sites and you will probably be doing a quicker and quality job and make more cash. I will be getting a refund. And by the way the training material is not in order, the instructional videos refer to docs that don't exist, web host accounts are getting locked, content doesn't always get imported. I personally find it very frustrating. Thats my honest review.
      Hi Andrew,

      I just did a writeup on expired vs new domains on my new blog (in signature line). I know you have other frustrations as well, but don't let the lack of expired domains getyou down.

      Tracy
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      • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
        I agree with Tracy. My heart sank when I read that you spent 100 hours searching for good expired domains. In that amount of time you could have built hundreds of blogs on new domains. You can also go to the domain autions, and for a little more money, you can buy some really nice domains.

        I've been coaching people to always move forward. You have an incredible piece of software available to you. Use it. 3 months ago, I would have been thrilled to have the Mage, even if I never heard of the tip that using expired domains can enhance your results.

        I really wish you all the best because it sounds like you've been working so hard to do things Greg's way. I'm glad you posted because I hope you see from Tracy and I that this will work on new domains, too.

        If you still have the energy to do so, go buy 100 new domains, and start building like crazy. You'll likely start to see traffic in 2-3 weeks, then money in 3-4 weeks. In 6-8 weeks, you'll start to see LOTS of money. With my original 70 sites (most on new domains) I've made well over $1,000 now after 10 weeks.

        And if you find yourself frustrated on some other step, please post in the Mage forums. You will get ideas and help quickly there. You don't have to do this alone!

        Best wishes,
        Amy Kay
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    • Profile picture of the author GingerColeen
      Originally Posted by Andrew74 View Post

      Ok i bought the Mage and have a few days left of my trial period. The whole idea is to buy expired domains from GoDaddy through Domain Mage and built on those that already have authority. However i have experienced there arn't many good domains and the good ones get snaped up pretty quickly. I have spent so much time ( approx 100hrs) trying to get a good domain. Have i got one yet? NO. How many quality wordpress sites can a experienced person built in 100 hrs? is 20 fair? Steve is right use a few plugin's and built quality manual sites and you will probably be doing a quicker and quality job and make more cash. I will be getting a refund. And by the way the training material is not in order, the instructional videos refer to docs that don't exist, web host accounts are getting locked, content doesn't always get imported. I personally find it very frustrating. Thats my honest review.
      Hi Andrew -

      I talked to another lady who was also concerned about the lack of expired domains. As Amy says, you must keep moving forward. The trick to this is not to let anything stop you. There's always an alternative route.

      Unfortunately, I cancelled WP Mage to go with WP Robot. I already had WP Robot and when the new update came out and it appeared to include most of the functions of WP Mage. However, I'm finding it to be very buggy and I realize now that it just simply doesn't have the power that the Mage has.

      I've written to Greg to see if he will let me back in and keeping my fingers crossed!

      In 15 years online, I have never seen a system with as much flexibility and earning power as this one. No one system is perfect and as Greg has stated many times, it also depends upon your temperment.

      I would suggest that you purchase good new domains (using a little keyword research to find them) and build some backlinks to them. That's what I've been doing and it's paying off.

      I was hoping that, in time, the expired domain issue would resolve itself, but we may have already let the cat out of the bag!

      Good luck to you whatever you decide.
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      • Profile picture of the author Justin Wheeler
        I bought it and cancelled it. In the end I felt uncomfortable with the sort of posts it was producing. I still have about 1000 posts up on my personal blog at justinwheeler.net if i am allowed to mention it. They are under the gadgets and travel section. Interestingly one of my friends sent me an email asking if my blog had been hacked... I will take them down in time.

        Its good for what it is, but I do think it is very expensive for the cost, especially now WP Robot does backdating of posts for a fraction of the cost.

        I also didnt find any domains in the domain tool that fitted in with the instructions.
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        • Profile picture of the author lakatos
          how does the auto promotion works for wp mage ?
          Do they hv a single interface that controls the rest of the blogs created much like firepow ?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    When you install CPMage, you can go to each site's backend quickly. But no, you can not work on each from one central backend. However, I have been using the Mage plugins on a WPMU install. With WPMU, you can of course, add plugins, etc to sites site-wide. It's pretty cool!

    Another option to add a plugin to all sites for your cpmage install is to unpack the .tar.gz package, add your own plugins,and zip it back up.
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  • Profile picture of the author EmersonND
    Let me start by apologizing if this issue, question or concern was raised already in this thread. However, with that said I would like to ask(ask again).

    I am a little concerned and confused about the best way to proceed with new domains and even seasoned ones.

    Concern:

    Let's say I have done my keyword research and found that the keyword "portable coffee maker" is the niche to build a site around. My previous method would be to buy a keyword rich domain; and focus the site around only this keyword.

    However, the mage method would be to basically create a site based on the entire category of coffee makers using at least 1000 keywords or more.

    My obvious concern is that this will hurt my chances of getting my main keyword "portable coffee maker" ranked in the search engines. If, I have 1000 other keywords in the background.

    Is it better to focus or be broad; would being more focused reduce the chances of being sandboxed into the supplemental search results?

    Thanks for you attention to the matter; and, anyone's view, thoughts or experiences on the matter.

    Emerson
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
    Couple of questions;

    What is the total cost to get into this and the least painful way to do it? I would want the whole package, I don't do things half way. Is there a payment or monthly option?

    This system seems to hinge on EPN and I can't seem to get approved... I am growing to despise Ebay...

    Has the recent epn payout shenanigans made it less lucrative or attractive?

    It is beginning to seem almost impossible to get accepted, can this be effectively monetized in different ways?

    Is data retrieved mainly from EPN or Amazon Datafeeds? Can I incorporate other content as well?


    Can this system be used with CB or CJ products?

    Would this be useful for backdating and adding related content to my existing sites?

    Is there any provision at all for dupe content?

    Could someone point me to a video that shows the entire system and what it can do?

    Thanks

    Unfortunately I got the boot from epn and I had to basically start over from scratch (had all my mage eggs in one basket).
    That's what concerns me this is happening at an alarming rate...
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    • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
      Basically, this product builds huge website very fast. So, anyway that you can monetize a website, you can monetize these sites. Here are some of the ways myself and other Mages are making money with our Mage sites:

      1. epn
      2. adsense
      3. CJ
      4. Clickbank
      5. Amazon (becoming my favorite)
      6. List building
      7. CPA offers (all kinds)
      8. Market health and other affiliate programs. If you have a link or banner, you can drive traffic to it with the Mage.
      9. Driving traffic to your own product or existing money site.

      I'm sure there are others that just aren't coming to mind right now.

      The potential is huge.

      I don't know a lot about duplicate content, but I don't see that it's a problem from the discussions I've read on the Mage forum.

      Yes, if you have an existing WP blog, you can add backdated posts to it.

      I've pm'd you a link to my videos that are for Mage training purposes, but they will show you the Mage on the inside and some of how it works.
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      • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
        Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

        Basically, this product builds huge website very fast. So, anyway that you can monetize a website, you can monetize these sites. Here are some of the ways myself and other Mages are making money with our Mage sites:

        1. epn
        2. adsense
        3. CJ
        4. Clickbank
        5. Amazon (becoming my favorite)
        6. List building
        7. CPA offers (all kinds)
        8. Market health and other affiliate programs. If you have a link or banner, you can drive traffic to it with the Mage.
        9. Driving traffic to your own product or existing money site.

        I'm sure there are others that just aren't coming to mind right now.

        The potential is huge.

        I don't know a lot about duplicate content, but I don't see that it's a problem from the discussions I've read on the Mage forum.

        Yes, if you have an existing WP blog, you can add backdated posts to it.

        I've pm'd you a link to my videos that are for Mage training purposes, but they will show you the Mage on the inside and some of how it works.
        Got it thanks I do business with Amazon now and I like them also.
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  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    I posted to much earlier but can post a link to the a thread that will maybe help some people decide on the value of any product they use. The goal everyone agrees on is to make money. www.blackhatworld.com/.../adsense/42980-how-i-make-15k-month-adsense.html -
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  • Profile picture of the author lockch
    Hi I bought a domain and posted 3000 posts in it but it got de-indexed by google...anyway how to get it indexed again.?
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    • Profile picture of the author Christian Fox
      Originally Posted by lockch View Post

      Hi I bought a domain and posted 3000 posts in it but it got de-indexed by google...anyway how to get it indexed again.?
      If it is deindexed, kiss it goodbye and move on, it's never coming back and it won't write you letters telling you it misses you.

      Are you sure it's just not in the Google dance?

      Type your web address into the Google search bar. If nothing comes up do it again in a week. If it still does not come up move on a don't do whatever you did to upset Google next time. The fun part is figuring out what you did because they will never tell you.

      People might tell you you can get it back, you will have more fun and be more productive spending your time beating yourself half to death with a rusty tack hammer. Personal experience...
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      • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
        Originally Posted by Christian Fox View Post

        People might tell you you can get it back, you will have more fun and be more productive spending your time beating yourself half to death with a rusty tack hammer. Personal experience...
        lol - true.

        ok - here's my latest experiences with wp mage - and I've nixed the affiliate link altogether from my signature. (made feel weird to have it there in the first place).

        Anyway - I've been at it full time for just over a month now so not long. I have just 25 sites up and every one of them has seen traffic on them within 24 hours of being finished. I've gotten faster at putting them up and can do 2 a day now with the niche and kw research but there have been server hiccups lately that have been a real pain.

        Hosting is an issue - but not insurmountable. the cheaper hosts just really don't work as they are unreliable and have been terminating mage accounts for "excessive resource usage". Best solution is a basic reseller account with hostgator or someone else. That way, instead up opening up a new basic shared hosting account somewhere after every 25 or so sites, you just assign yourself a new package/IP from your reseller account (and don't charge yourself for it ).

        As far as using the Mage - I think it is a total blast and I absolutely love building sites with it because I can make every single one look and act differently if I chose. I'm a little slow so didn't even start to branch out into using some of the custom posting templates until a week or so ago and the sky's really the limit with those. I find that, if I spend a reasonable amount of time researching and culling my kw's before generating posts, I don't get a bunch of nonsense irrelevant posts. I rarely have to go in and delete stupid stuff (sometimes tho).

        Earnings - well, unless cj are a bunch of crooks (doubtful) - i have never earned a single red cent through them. I don't know why I even try. It took a few weeks to start seeing clicks and a few pennies come in. Now, I am making roughly $20-$25 per day between ebay, amazon and adsense with a majority (75%) being ebay. Keep in mind, that's with 25 sites - up to 8 or 10 of those put up in the last week. Also, all but 1 or 2 of my sites are product-based - not info products. Those are just things that caught my eye and I plan to build sites on everything, including CPA (when I have time to learn it :rolleyes.

        Overall - great system. There are bugs as with any system but they get ironed out pretty quickly with the help of the developers and a very active Mage community in their forums. The system/product suits me and what I like to do perfectly and the potential for expansion is enormous.

        I see a lot folks getting hung up on minutea, which to me can be the kiss of death in IM. I have found that I continue to have successes and the money continues to come in (sometimes a little, sometimes a lot) as long as I keep taking action and keep moving forward. I'm not talking about just blindly jumping into stuff. I research things to death sometimes - but I always act...and keep moving.
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        • Profile picture of the author aakayb
          Don't know about the auto posting but am finding WP Mage useful for the article bank it has available.
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          • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
            How are your CJ sites loading....
            You might check a few of them and see if they are functioning okay...
            They function okay one day and are down the next.
            A lot of others for members are not function properly, that may be why you are not seeing money.
            That's all I'm going to say about that....
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      Originally Posted by lockch View Post

      Hi I bought a domain and posted 3000 posts in it but it got de-indexed by google...anyway how to get it indexed again.?
      That sounds serious...

      Could what the preachers at the beginning and throughout this thread were saying, be beginning to come to pass?

      Amy, would you say that if we have the mage system on a server
      with pre-existing web sites, that we are fond of, it may be wise to reconsider
      have the mage system on that same server.

      Would you also say that it is possible that google will get smart
      about the mage system and de-index anything on a server that is related to the mage,
      weather it is a guilty mage site or an innocent bystander site that just happens to be housed
      on the same server...

      Sounds like this may already be beginning to happen... so soon.

      That sounds pretty serious and maybe quite risky..
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
        Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post


        Would you also say that it is possible that google will get smart
        about the mage system and de-index anything on a server that is related to the mage,
        weather it is a guilty mage site or an innocent bystander site that just happens to be housed
        on the same server...

        Sounds like this may already be beginning to happen... so soon.

        That sounds pretty serious and maybe quite risky..
        ....

        I personally had tons of sites deindexed. (its just comes with the territory)
        and my observations on deindexing are as follows

        1 - If they are all on the same master/addon domain combo, if one site gets hit then the others may get "looked at" - meaning if they are all the same template, affiliate sites, then yes they may get hit too
        2 - If you have the EXACT same registration info, then other sites will get looked at. I have a high trafiic 100% regular site with same registration and on the Same Server/IP as some thin Mage sites. Well the Mage site got hit, but my regular site was uneffected.

        Leading me to the conclusion that Google actually takes a look before they deindex sites. Meaning if you have a regualr site it is basicly safe no matter what else you do. But if you group together hundreds of affilaite sites, then they can get hit in one swoop.
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        • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
          Thank you for your reply Greg.
          You may not be here in the states and may not know it but the US and other parts of the world
          are in financial crunch.
          Family's, little boys and girls need to be fed while Moms and Dads are getting layed-off
          right andf left.
          I have noticed that several folks in this thread have and are considering spending
          Severance pays, from lay-offs, collage grant money and dipping into the family savings
          during these tough economic times that the world is facing.

          These people seem to be grasping at anything that will give them hope, even if it means
          sacrificing the family budget, even the risk of missing their mortgage payments and foreclosure.
          I have never heard you speak out and tell them that this may not be the time for them to be
          buying this mage product, especially if they are facing these financial difficulty's,
          Or that maybe they should wait until they have a family decision about the matter.
          That's what I would do anyway. Yes I do have products that I sell of my own and yes I have
          advised one or two in the past not to buy, when they spoke to me about their financial situation,
          witch leads me to my question:
          The mage is a very powerful piece of software and it does have good potential
          to make people money, as in any software would with it's power.
          The question is: if all of the utility's that come with the software are not functioning
          properly, such as that affiliate server that has turned out to be incompatible with your software,
          yet is still being sold as a large part of your software package,,, do you
          plan on removing that utility function from your software anytime soon and replacing
          it with something new and better?
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          • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
            Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

            Thank you for your reply Greg.
            You may not be here in the states and may not know it but the US and other parts of the world
            are in financial crunch.
            Family's, little boys and girls need to be fed while Moms and Dads are getting layed-off
            right andf left.
            I have noticed that several folks in this thread have and are considering spending
            Severance pays, from lay-offs, collage grant money and dipping into the family savings
            during these tough economic times that the world is facing.

            These people seem to be grasping at anything that will give them hope, even if it means
            sacrificing the family budget.
            I have never heard you speak out and tell them that this may not be the time for them to be
            buying this mage product, especially if they are facing these financial difficulty's,
            Or that maybe they should wait until they have a family decision about the matter.
            Umm.. You obviously are not satisfied. That is ok. Not everybody can be satisfied. And its not the system for everybody. Many people find great success with it and it is not suited for others. In the end each person needs to make their decision what is best for them and is ultimately responsible to themselves and their own family. and incidentally, I have had people ask me this exact same question via PM, maybe one of them is reading this thread and will tell you what I said. (hint: I told them to not spend the rent money)

            We are here to provide tools and help you use them. If you find value in our tools then we are happy to do our best to help you use them

            As for your other questions, they are slightly misinformed, so let me correct you expressly.

            Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

            such as that affiliate server that has turned out to be incompatible with your software
            That would be the commission Junction API. You are 100% incorrect that it is incompatible with our software. The whole API has been up and down for a few days due to the fact that they got slammed with holiday traffic.

            Nothing to do with the Mage. This effected thousands of users of the API that have never heard of the Mage and if you go read on another IM forum dedicated to this sort of thing, you will see it has effected people far and wide.

            Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

            yet is still being sold as a large part of your software package
            Actually it was a small bonus added at the last minute and we are in the process of revising it to reject the feed if there is over a 5 second timeout so the page will load as normal. Though this is not as easy as adding a few lines of code as some would think

            It is an interesting razors edge in product development because we can give users more and more. But the more we give the users the more chances they have to earn, but the more reason they have to complain. So we are basically left we either

            A) Creating a brain-dead auto-push button product that is SO EASY to use perfectly but doesn't earn anybody anything (but it is easy!)
            B) Create a robust set of tools and add to it. Being robust and versatile they can do many things and can earn for people.

            So we choose route B, and our stuff is good and always being improved and added upon. I have 5 people full time on my staff and they are dedicated to constant improvements. I have already done a private mailing with our roadmap and plethora of FREE releases and upgrades coming in January.

            We are not perfect, but we give all of our effort and attention to help optimize your user experience.

            Does that properly answer your questions ?
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            • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
              Yes it does and thank you for your quick reply.
              I hope you understand that this is not a slam towards you, so Please don't take it that way.

              although, I do have to disagree with the phrase, "Holiday Traffic".
              It sounds real good this time of year and it does buy a little more time, but I must say
              I do not believe this the case.
              I have spoken with other people with other affiliate grabbing software and their
              Commission Junction products are and always have come up just fine.

              Although, maybe it really is the case... Who knows.

              I am very happy to see that your team is continuing to work diligently in resolving the
              issue.
              I do have the highest respect for both you and your team and I am quite confident that
              the improvements to the mage system, when ironed out, will be nothing short of spectacular.
              Happy Holidays...
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            • Profile picture of the author copywriter
              I have been involved with WPMage for a little over 7 weeks. Only just started to make some $ with it but that said, the forum would have to be one of the most helpful I have ever seen in 10 years full-time online.

              I have some sites with over 17,000 pages indexed and am looking forward to seeing what that does in terms of traffic over the coming weeks.

              The support is excellent and I love the fact tha this is not promoted as a get rich quick scheme.

              It is clearly promoted as a numbers game.

              The idea is to create hundreds of sites and do a little with each one
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          • Profile picture of the author WAL972
            "You may not be here in the states and may not know it but the US and other parts of the world are in financial crunch.
            Family's, little boys and girls need to be fed while Moms and Dads are getting layed-off
            right andf left.
            I have noticed that several folks in this thread have and are considering spending
            Severance pays, from lay-offs, collage grant money and dipping into the family savings
            during these tough economic times that the world is facing.

            These people seem to be grasping at anything that will give them hope, even if it means
            sacrificing the family budget, even the risk of missing their mortgage payments and foreclosure.
            I have never heard you speak out and tell them that this may not be the time for them to be buying this mage product, especially if they are facing these financial difficulty's,
            Or that maybe they should wait until they have a family decision about the matter.
            That's what I would do anyway. Yes I do have products that I sell of my own and yes I have advised one or two in the past not to buy, when they spoke to me about their financial situation, witch leads me to my question:
            The mage is a very powerful piece of software and it does have good potential
            to make people money, as in any software would with it's power."


            Cashtech,

            It's this kind of post that really gets my goat at times. Since when is it the responsibility of the seller to say, "DON'T BUY WHAT YOU CAN'T AFFORD"? Do you require all the retailers/sellers out there at Christmas time say, "Are you really sure you can afford my product or service?" The answer is obviously, NO.

            I'm all for supporting people who, through no fault of their own, have fallen on hard times. People who are struggling to keep the roof over their family's head or keeping their kids fed because of other people's greed and gambling, clearly need help. However, I'm not into supporting/helping/warning people who take their only cow to town and swap it for 3 beans in the hope that they will get a beanstalk out of it before the rent is due that month - RIDICULOUS.

            Sellers should absolutely avoid making statements about their product or service that cannot be supported by results, however, it is not the responsibility of the seller to make financial decisions on the buyer's behalf. If Greg, or anyone else for that matter, were stating that investing in their product/service is GUARANTEED to produce your rent check or pay your other bills this month, then THEY are responsible for sucking money from people who can't afford it, i.e. the Sub-Prime (love that term) Mortgage lenders. But Greg or the WP Mage make NO such promises.

            And unless he's been living under a rock, I know for a fact that Thailand has the internet and I'm sure the news about the GFC has reached Greg at some point in the last 12 months or so - I think that statement was pretty insulting. But Greg's a big boy and I'm sure he can defend himself

            The fact is that whether it's in regards to providing for your family, managing your finances, or succeeding in business, YOU have to be responsible for your own destiny. Buy the WP Mage and use it, or don't use it and don't buy it - but either way TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHOICES. No-one else should or will for you.

            The sooner adults accept their responsibilities and act accordingly, the sooner we'll see less whingers and children in here and other places with their hands out and the better off the world will be as a whole for it. It's the refusal to accept responsibility for their actions (including me at times) that sees people come into the forum and whinge endlessly about this product or that guru failed them. Bull****. No one put a gun to our heads and forced us to part with the cash. We did that of our own free will. And it's time we wear the consequences.

            It's been my experience in many realms of life that the people most in need of help rarely ask for it. And it's also been my experience that those people who ultimately succeed in life, have taken responsibility for their choices and acted accordingly. Maybe there's a lesson in that.

            But hey, don't take it from me...

            Cheers

            Jeff


            P.S. And in the interests of full disclosure (FTC, I hope you're paying attention), I did purchase the Master Mage package back @$797 and no, I have not made $10k this month from it - but that was due to me sitting on my @rse and not due to the Mage. Also, Greg Jacobs did NOT hold me hostage while I wrote this
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            • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
              Originally Posted by WAL972 View Post

              The fact is that whether it's in regards to providing for your family, managing your finances, or succeeding in business, YOU have to be responsible for your own destiny. Buy the WP Mage and use it, or don't use it and don't buy it - but either way TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHOICES. No-one else should or will for you.
              v. well said - thank you. something I've wanted to say many many times - but your words were much better.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sheryllyn
          Hi Greg.

          Please contact me. You can use the WF system. With my post count I can't pm you.

          Thanks!

          Sheryllyn


          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

          ....

          I personally had tons of sites deindexed. (its just comes with the territory)
          and my observations on deindexing are as follows
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  • Profile picture of the author ProfessorMetal
    Many thanks, Linda

    I signed up for the two month free trial yesterday but haven't yet had time to start going through things. Sounds to me like I made a good move and won't mind in the least paying for it when the free trial ends.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
    This product seems interesting.

    I have two questions for anybody in the know:
    1) How easy is it to hire a cheap editor to correct the poor language grammar of the translated posts?

    2)My second question is , is it possible to make money even without doing any translations? The poor translations seem to be the only risk to the software.

    Using AdSense on poor quality websites is a recipe for 100% losing your AdSense account.

    And to Steve Cook, I agree with you that building quality sites is a good idea. In truth though, even 100% white hat high quality sites with original content do get de-indexed. If you have built enough sites over the years, you will know this.

    I remember you spent several months trying to make $100 per day with one AdSense site. Imagine if your high quality site became de-indexed after spending months developing it? This has happened to me and many others. It is not uncommon.

    I would rather lose 100 Master Mage sites that I have spent 1 week building than 1 "quality" site that I ave spent 3 months developing. If I make $100 per day at the end of the day, I do personally think that their is far less risk with the Master Mage system.

    Within 3 months that it takes to build an authority site that may make $100, I could potentially build 1200 Master Mage sites. Even if 70% of them are de-indexed, I would still be making $360 per day ( assuming the vaerage $1 per site shown by the various posts).

    If just 20% get de-indexed as the developer claims, then I would be on nearly $1000 per day.

    I know I am just playing with numbers here and reality would be different, but I think you get the point I am trying to make.

    Apollo
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    • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
      I've only translated maybe 5 of my nearly 90 sites, and I'm making money. I don't think I'll use the translation tool much in the future, either.

      Why would you hire someone to "clean it up?" You have the option to use the translation or not. It's very nifty and configurable.
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      • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
        Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

        I've only translated maybe 5 of my nearly 90 sites, and I'm making money. I don't think I'll use the translation tool much in the future, either.

        Why would you hire someone to "clean it up?" You have the option to use the translation or not. It's very nifty and configurable.
        Thanks for your response AmyKay.

        The benefit of the translation to my understanding is that it gives uniqueness to the posts and hence blog.

        Putting too many posts that do not make sense will get your AdSense account banned for certain, that is why I thought cleaning up your posts will make your blogs more unique while at the same time keep the Adsense police happy.

        Apollo
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      Originally Posted by apollocreed View Post

      This product seems interesting.

      I have two questions for anybody in the know:
      1) How easy is it to hire a cheap editor to correct the poor language grammar of the translated posts?

      2)My second question is , is it possible to make money even without doing any translations? The poor translations seem to be the only risk to the software.

      Using AdSense on poor quality websites is a recipe for 100% losing your AdSense account.

      And to Steve Cook, I agree with you that building quality sites is a good idea. In truth though, even 100% white hat high quality sites with original content do get de-indexed. If you have built enough sites over the years, you will know this.

      I remember you spent several months trying to make $100 per day with one AdSense site. Imagine if your high quality site became de-indexed after spending months developing it? This has happened to me and many others. It is not uncommon.

      I would rather lose 100 Master Mage sites that I have spent 1 week building than 1 "quality" site that I ave spent 3 months developing. If I make $100 per day at the end of the day, I do personally think that their is far less risk with the Master Mage system.

      Apollo
      Apollo, you make some very good points and that is also my thoughts. I have a couple of mage sites that haven't yet been indexed, but that's ok because I didn't spend hours and hours creating them.

      As far as the translation goes, with my first few sites, I did use the translation, but the last 3 months, I haven't used it at all. The sites with no translation do just fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Once you start earning $100 a day or so you, you are likely to be checked out by the 'humans' at Google Adsense. If they reckon the sites are just 'made for Adsense', they will remove your Adsense account. No danger of that with Steve's approach.

    Pearson
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    • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
      Originally Posted by pearsonbrown View Post

      Once you start earning $100 a day or so you, you are likely to be checked out by the 'humans' at Google Adsense. If they reckon the sites are just 'made for Adsense', they will remove your Adsense account. No danger of that with Steve's approach.

      Pearson
      True.

      However, the risk of being de-indexed from the Google Index is still there and white hat sites DO get de-indexed.

      I have not read the current Google TOS, but in their old TOS, any activity that was done to promote a site could theoretically get you de-indexed.

      So any SEO was against their TOS (I know they used to contradict themselves by then discussing correct SEO methods).

      So the only true white hat sites according to Google are those that are built with quality in mind and then left to gain links naturally by people who just love the content on that site soooooo much and then link to it, just like referencing in academic papers.

      So article marketing is strictly speaking also grey hat. I have had such sites de-indexed.

      Apollo
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
        Hi and hope everybody had a great Christmas -Christ.
        Okay,,, Here is what I have experienced with the mage system.
        I paid for the mage and got started back in early November.
        I have bought all of my domains through the affiliate links in the Domain Mage.
        You got to admit, that piece of software is quite handy and easy to use.

        To date I have around 30 expired domains. (mage sites)
        Starting off, I was feeling pretty optimistic about the mage system,
        in spite of all of the warnings that were coming from some of the ole hats
        at the beginnings of this entire thread.
        At the time, it seemed like a sure thing, if you follow the system, at least that's what seemed to be implied.

        I started buying and setting up the domains, with a lot of time and care spent on
        keyword research for each and every site that I created and launched.
        At that same time period, I found out from ebay that I would not be able to
        be an EPN partner with them, so I can't use the powerful ebay function of the mage system.

        Thus, I started setting up my sites to carry Commission Junction products.
        After pulling my hair out, dealing with the commission junction function not
        working properly in the mage, I began searching on the master mage private forum and
        realized that I was not the only one having problems with the commission junction
        function not working properly, with either, CJ pages in my sites taking over a minute to load,
        or my commission junction products not showing up at all.
        I dealt with that for weeks and I read how so many others were and are dealing with the same problem.

        So, between turning the commission junction feature off and then back on
        (on all of my sites) every time there was supposedly a bug fix for that problem,
        and then going through and turning the CJ feature back off again, after finding out
        that the problem was still not fixed, I started to convert all of my sites into adsense sites.
        (I felt like a squirrel in a squirrel cage).
        I soon found out that, by not being able to get an ebay account meant that I was not going to see the money that the ebay account holders are seeing.

        Just before Christmas, There was supposed to be a new and final bug fix for the
        commission junction problem (Since, many others who have also bought into
        the mage system are finding out that they can't get ebay accounts either, because
        ebay is so strict in their rules for approvals)
        But the problem still isn't fixed.
        I am finding out that many of the non-ebay mage members are really depending on that commission junction feature to work.
        I myself am also depending on that also... Doesn't look like that's ever meant to happen.

        I am seeing traffic build up on my site pages but I am seeing nill results in any adsense earnings.

        During the many weeks that I have had the mange system, I haven't seen any of the
        earnings that I was told to expect. I think a lot of it is due to not being able to get an ebay account.
        (keyword mage is built for ebay and is a BIG pillar in the entire mage software system)
        (Had I known about this beforehand, I would have thought twice before buying in)

        The ebayers seem to be making some money but Myself and a lot of others, who can't
        get accounts aren't seeing the money, we just consider the ebayers the lucky ones, as they talk about
        their earnings that they see coming in.
        Add in all of the commission junction problems that are still ongoing and the fact that
        I have only made less than $4 in adsense, from the many of my site pages that have already been indexed,
        I feel that I bought into a bata testing program that is still in it's testing stages.
        As I studied the program, before I bought in, It was insinuated that anyone who buys in to this system
        will start seeing some pretty hefty results after about 3 or 4 weeks, and see even better
        results as time went on.

        I have seen no results to speak of.
        My bank account is $1,000.00 shorter than it used to be, yet it seems that
        the GoDaddy affiliate commissions that are made on each sale of an expired domain (Domain Mage)
        seem to be expounding at an astronomical rate, as it is continually
        being suggested that we continue buying more and more domains, into the hundreds.
        Someone is making a whole lot of money on these domain commissions, from
        people who aren't seeing any money, yet are still being urged to
        continue buying more and more domains, using the Domain Mage.
        (no one is urging to specificity use the domain mage, it's just the tool that goes with the mage system).

        I bought a domain today from Go daddy, for one of my other marketing projects, outside of the mage and quickly found out that that commission also goes to the owner of the mage
        because his cookie was still on my computer.
        I quickly cleared my cookies and proceeded with buying the next domain.
        I will never be buying hundreds of sites for the mage system.
        I don't trust that I, myself, will see any significant returns on that investment.

        At $15 per domain, I feel somewhat trapped.
        I have paid out all of this money for the mage system and continued to pay out even
        more for all of the domains (those commissions in someone els's pocket, each time)
        And because I can't get an ebay account and the commission junction feature still
        doesn't work, I just don't know what to do...
        I could have used that money for my family's Christmas, or paid in advance on some bills.
        Instead, I'm stuck with all of this and it's after the refund date...

        Had I been able to see the mage master private forum and all of the problems
        people were having, before buying in,
        I would have definitely made a different decision than buying into the mage system, or
        at least waited until the system was really ready for launch.

        There will be many critical replies to my review post.
        I'm a big boy, I can take it and I am expecting it, but these are my honest results.
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        • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
          A friend of mine bought the software, but to be honest he hasn't even had the time to get started yet as his other business took off before Christmas.

          Anyway, I was interested in this too and will help my friend get his mage stuff off the ground.

          But, I am more than a little concerned about what you are saying.

          You certainly are ripping into the program and moaning a great deal about it, rightly or wrongly. Only you can answer that.

          Did you ask the guy to try and give you some help?

          Have you asked for help on his forums?

          Have you asked for your money back?

          Why can't you get into ebay? Others can.

          Have you researched your niches?

          Tell us what you have done in a little more detail. This will help others and you may also get some useful advice from others who use this forum.

          By the way, I am sorry to hear that you are not doing well with it yet. It will be upsetting to my friend if he has the same results as you when he finally starts.

          Sam
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          • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
            Nowhere near 20 visitors per day on every site.
            That may be due to trying so long and not fully giving up on CJ until recantly.
            I also have one block of adsense on top and one in the upper sidebar on every page I own.

            There has been many attempts to fix the CJ problem and I comment them for that.

            This is not meant to rip into the system.
            I have reservations about writing the entire post because I don't want to see anyone receive any criticism about anything.
            I am a very gentle person when it comes to things like that.
            I would rather make a friend, than an enemy, but I feel that it is only fare to
            people who are spending all that money for the membership and then all of the money
            for the continuing purchase of the domains, that we know a little more of what is going on.

            Simply speaking, I just don't see anyone else standing up and speaking of their negative experiences.
            I just don't understand why people with these ongoing problems just won't man up.
            This is why I am the only one taking all of the retaliatory replies.

            The owners have been very polite in trying to help with the CJ situation but just can't seem to make it work, for some reason. (CJ is very big for those of us who can't get ebay)
            I just feel that these issues were already known of before launching the product,
            through the bata testers that got free accounts.(the ones speaking out in support of the product), just as LOZ quickly changed from speaking out against the product in so many of the earlier posts but drastically changed all 100% of his stance, after he was given
            a free version (A free $1,000.00 gift)
            It's obvious why that was given to him and it did the trick.
            (By the way, it is common sense to anyone that there is no such thing as a demo version.)
            As I was saying, these issues were already known and yet the product was still launched
            and people began paying $1,000.00 a pop. (That's a lot of money to anyone)

            As far as the ebay issue, sad to say, there are many people who found out the hard way
            that the difficulty's of having their web sites approved by ebay, just as mine was also rejected
            by ebay.
            Some make it, Others don't
            many of the bata testers already had ebay accounts before testing.
            (ebay doesn't give reasons) they just write back and tell you "NO, don't try to fight this, don't try to change the method of your ebay marketing, as it will
            automatically be rejected again, do not try to resubmit any applications with us in the future".
            They are very firm and rude in their disapproval letters.

            As "keyword Mage" is a very big function of the mage system, having an ebay site
            is critical if you really want to see any returns on your investment.
            Otherwise, you will only have money sparsely trickling in.
            I can understand that, and feel that there is plenty of time to get your refund after finding out that you can't get approved with ebay.
            My big problem is that it was already known that the commission junction feature doesn't work, well before the launch to the paying public.
            CJ is really the only thing that people can depend on, who can't get ebay approved.
            Some mangers talked about setting up all adsense sites.
            What a waist of a thousand dollars.
            I can buy a $30 article pulling program and do that...
            Although, I have thousands of pages with adsense blocks on them, I have only made
            less than $5 in almost two months time.
            It is clearly stated in the promotion videos that we don't need seo because these are
            old and established domains. Clearly stated.
            During the first 30 days the CJ problem was being diligently worked on by the admin.
            They were truly trying to make it work.
            That has since long past for me.
            When I bought the mage system, I was under the impression that everything worked,
            as with any product launch, The product needs to work fully before any launch.
            all of the bugs should be worked out long beforehand. (Especially when paying a thousand dollars)

            I could deal with an ebay rejection, (although, I do feel that since ebay is
            pretty much the main moneymaker for the mage system, it would have only been fair to have some sort of disclosure for those that might be rejected)
            But with the Commission Junction feature not only not working but actually hindering
            the success of the sites by taking so long to load that google crawlers would not wait around for so long, in order to index the pages: (site not found) also with adsense pages,
            the rest of us non-ebayers have nowhere else to really turn to, for the
            amounts of money that was insinuated in the promo videos.
            I will say, that the CJ pages don't take long to load, after the Christmas bug fix.
            now they just don't show any CJ products.

            When I do my niche research, I try to have a balance of products and keywords that are
            not to highly search for and the market be flooded and those that have a higher search rate...
            I try and have a happy medium.

            I just feel that this launch was a quick launch, the thought process being, "we'll fix any problems as we go along"
            but with a $1,000.00 a pop and then all of the domains being bought at $15.00 a peice,
            while being told that you need to buy more and more if you want to see any real results.

            I just feel that this whole thing has been a little misleading.
            If it were a $97 product, I might not feel as let down as i do now.
            I am still wanting to try my best to give this system the benefit of the doubt.
            that's just the way I am.
            I am hoping that be some miracle of knowledge or technical changes, this thing will eventually work.
            I say that half halfheartedly, but that's enough to keep me going around the next bend.
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  • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
    cashtech29,

    I personally make far more money from adsense than ebay.

    Even if you get your CJ up, conversions will probably not be as good as compared to Adsense or ebay (just my experience).

    Have you optimized the location of your adsense ads?

    ebay, adsense etc are just ways of monetizing traffic web traffic. If you are getting traffic successfully as promised, there is no reason why you should not be able to profit from it.

    As you don't have an ebay account, have you tried developing information sites instead of product sites?

    What sort of traffic are you getting on average per site? If you are getting at least 20 visitors per day per site on average, you should be at the very worst be making at least $1 per site from adsense if you did your kw research properly. $1 per site is the lower end of what the WpMage developer advertised.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Cashtec29,

    Thank you for the update.

    Please explain why you can't get into ebay?

    Why can't you build a nice simple site to allow you to get accepted?

    Then take it from there.

    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

      Cashtec29,

      Thank you for the update.

      Please explain why you can't get into ebay?

      Why can't you build a nice simple site to allow you to get accepted?

      Then take it from there.

      Sam
      Ebay knows all of your information, they even own paypal, so you would have to sneak around their radar
      somehow for them not to know that you have already tried and been rejected before.
      If I could find a way to do that, I would do it in a heart beat.
      If I could find someone who knows how to build ebay approved sites,
      then I would probably buy one and learn how to re-submit to them, without them knowing
      that they rejected my first one.

      I used to have an ebay account, before they became so strict.
      I bought into a program called "Dave's cool little web site",
      a little like mage but not exactly the same.
      This was a few years ago.
      I never worked with it too much because I was green and it was only a $97 product.

      "Dave's cool little web site" was found out by ebay and went under,
      it took all of the ebay account holders with it.
      I believe that is one of the main reasons that ebay has become so strict
      in it's review process today.
      It knows to watch out for things like this now.

      If I could find someone to build an ebay approved site, I would buy it.
      Maybe this is a way that someone could start making money.
      Build the sites and then sell them.
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      • Profile picture of the author twinmom
        Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

        Ebay knows all of your information, they even own paypal, so you would have to sneak around their radar
        somehow for them not to know that you have already tried and been rejected before.
        If I could find a way to do that, I would do it in a heart beat.
        If I could find someone who knows how to build ebay approved sites,
        then I would probably buy one and learn how to re-submit to them, without them knowing
        that they rejected my first one.
        Cashtec, definitely give ebay another try. Yes, it's true that they are harder to get into, however, it's not true that you cannot 'try again'. I was declined twice before getting in, so it definitely worth it to try again.

        There are folks available that you can hire to build you a site for applying if you aren't comfortable with doing it yourself.

        Also, don't forget about Amazon. Yes, CJ is having issues with their feeds (I really don't believe it's a "mage" issue because even logging into their site is slow sometimes), but don't let that limit you.


        Tracy
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        • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
          This sounds very hopeful.
          I really do want to keep trying with mage.
          I have once again, turned off all of my CJ and have given up on that.
          It's just that I went into this thinking that CJ would be my savior when
          ebay didn't work out.
          YES, it is a CJ issue, not mage.
          That is why I really do commend the programmers for continually trying to
          find a solution to the problem.
          I just think that it should have never been included in the launch of the
          mage product, even if it was only, just meant to be a bonus feature.

          I will pay for help, if there was such a service offered.
          I need to know what an actual ebay approved site looks like, before
          it has been maged. and a step by step process.
          (I have always built my own sites, although, I will do it with someone else if
          they prefer to build it themselves)
          I'm sure that this has been asked by others in the past and is probably redundant.
          If There isn't some kind of map (of seeing an actual non-mage, working site)
          then it is still a shot in the dark, each time we try to resubmit.

          Twinmom, were these very recant resubmissions, (since the mage came out)
          or were they in times past?

          Would you mind PM me and show me your process, witch sites were disapproved and witch one was approved,
          before the mage.
          How did you resubmit with them knowing who you were?
          I will pay, if that is what you want.
          Same pay with you Amy.

          I do have other ventures on the internet that I do okay with, but with what mage says it
          has to offer and the profits, I'm really wanting this to work for me.
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          • Profile picture of the author twinmom
            Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

            Would you mind PM me and show me your process, witch sites were disapproved and witch one was approved,
            before the mage.
            How did you resubmit with them knowing who you were?
            I've sent a PM.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

      Cashtec29,

      Thank you for the update.

      Please explain why you can't get into ebay?

      Why can't you build a nice simple site to allow you to get accepted?

      Then take it from there.

      Sam
      Ebay knows all of your information, they even own paypal, so you would have to sneak around their radar
      somehow for them not to know that you have already tried and been rejected before.
      If I could find a way to do that, I would do it in a heart beat.
      If I could find someone who knows how to build ebay approved sites,
      then I would probably buy one and learn how to re-submit to them, without them knowing
      that they rejected my first one.

      I used to have an ebay account, before they became so strict.
      I bought into a program called "Dave's cool little web site",
      a little like mage but not exactly the same.
      This was a few years ago.
      I never worked with it too much because I was green and it was only a $97 product.

      "Dave's cool little web site" was found out by ebay and went under,
      it took all of the ebay account holders with it.
      I believe that is one of the main reasons that ebay has become so strict
      in it's review process today.
      It knows to watch out for things like that now.

      Besides, I wouldn't even know what type of site that ebay would approve anyway.
      I would need to see a physical version of a recently approved site.
      Otherwise I could spend all of the time building the site that I think
      they might approve and in the end, find out that I still had it wrong.
      Following directions is one thing, but that would still be a vague description in nature.
      I would rather see an actual recently approved site.

      If I could find someone to build an ebay approved site, I would buy it.
      Maybe this is a way that someone could start making money.
      Build the sites and then sell them.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I've piped in here a lot. Since someone asked, I've now made $2,438.48
    with WPMage since I started 3 months ago. I'm very pleased. My earliest sites were built with ebay. My newer adsense and amazon sites are really starting to take off, though! Yesterday I got an adsense click worth $6.64! That's a record for me. And that site took me all of 10 minutes to set up. It's much like the xfactor sites. I'm very excited to see how much I'm making in 6 months because I just keep building as many sites as I can. I haven't even yet explored the clickbank and CJ plugins.

    cashtech, I'm sorry it didn't work as you had hoped. I know you wanted it to work for you. My question for you is this.. What is your plan for making money on the internet now?
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    • Profile picture of the author apollocreed
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      I've piped in here a lot. Since someone asked, I've now made $2,438.48
      with WPMage since I started 3 months ago. I'm very pleased. My earliest sites were built with ebay. My newer adsense and amazon sites are really starting to take off, though! Yesterday I got an adsense click worth $6.64! That's a record for me. And that site took me all of 10 minutes to set up. It's much like the xfactor sites. I'm very excited to see how much I'm making in 6 months because I just keep building as many sites as I can. I haven't even yet explored the clickbank and CJ plugins.

      cashtech, I'm sorry it didn't work as you had hoped. I know you wanted it to work for you. My question for you is this.. What is your plan for making money on the internet now?
      Thank you Amykay for your updates.

      How many active indexed domains do you have to be producing $2,438.48?

      Is it easy to get suitable expired domains so as to make the system work or are you doing OK with new domains?
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      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
        I myself am finding that you have to be very quick to find ranking domains
        on the domain mage, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find ranking domains anymore.
        Most that are there are page rank 0.
        Very few 1 or 2 page ranks are left anymore.
        I don't know how many times the list is updated but I tend to just stay and keep refreshing
        every hour or so.
        I've found some pretty good domains that way, otherwise, there are many others looking at the new domains as they come available, so you've got to be quick on your feet..

        Amy, you said earlier that you are not really using the article translation feature.
        I was translating every article, en|es|en.
        The other day, I got a very stern and rude warning from an author who just happened on one of her articles that I had translated.
        She threatened a copyright infringement suit.
        I would imagine that she had recently written and was checking to see how it was being placed.
        I no longer use any translations anymore.
        I still have all of my existing sites translated because I don't know how to turn that feature off for an existing site,
        but from here on out,,, No More Translations for this guy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
          Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

          I myself am finding that you have to be very quick to find ranking domains
          on the domain mage, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find ranking domains anymore.
          Most that are there are page rank 0.
          Very few 1 or 2 page ranks are left anymore.
          I don't know how many times the list is updated but I tend to just stay and keep refreshing
          every hour or so.
          I've found some pretty good domains that way, otherwise, there are many others looking at the new domains as they come available, so you've got to be quick on your feet..

          Amy, you said earlier that you are not really using the article translation feature.
          I was translating every article, en|es|en.
          The other day, I got a very stern and rude warning from an author who just happened on one of her articles that I had translated.
          She threatened a copyright infringement suit.
          I would imagine that she had recently written and was checking to see how it was being placed.
          I no longer use any translations anymore.
          I still have all of my existing sites translated because I don't know how to turn that feature off for an existing site,
          but from here on out,,, No More Translations for this guy.
          Cashtech,
          I just read this post and logged into the Domain Mage and clicked on pagerank and there´s 100´s of pagerank 2 and 1 domains available.

          Also, what keywords are you using?
          I´m finding that the more posts a website has the better.
          For example:
          1 site that is only 2 years old with 40,000 posts on it is doing about 60 hits a day and growing, in only 2 weeks. The future posts are dripping onto the site every half hour for the next year (about 44 post a day) and it´s getting lot´s of great comments, backlinks and re-posted, re-tweeted and sales just started on it.

          Another site that is 4 years old with only 1100 posts is creeping along much slower. I think that´s because it´s not getting a new post on it every day.

          Seems like the older the expired domain, the more posts it should have and younger domains should have fewer post.

          To test this theory I put only 1200 posts on a 3 year old domain and it´s not getting much traffic.

          Are your sites just not posting enough posts? Do you have a large enough list of keywords? If your domain is 3 years old then do the math:
          3 years X 365 Days = 1095 + 1 year into the future = 1460 (you are future dating your posts 1 year into the future, right?)

          So if we build a list of keywords that´s 12,000 words long and the mage post roughly half of them and makes half of them pending we would have:
          6,000 divided by 1460 = 4 posts / day. That shoul create some traffic.

          Are you pinging your sites?
          As far as the CJ issue, I have no idea what you´re talking about. CJ has been working just fine for me. Have you read the PDF and watched the videos on how to set up your CJ settings properly? I jioned the same time you did so I don´t see how it could be working here and not for you unless you din´t fill in your CJ PID correctly.

          I´m also translating every article, en|es|en. Are you checking the box that gives credit to the author? They should be happy to have their link in there. That´s the whole point of someone publishing an article with their resource box in it. Maybe they don´t understand that. Just delete that one article then.

          I hope this post helps you. My advise is to calm down a bit and re-think your approach. Don´t panic. Go through each step again and make sure you´re not missing anything. I don´t have an EPN account yet and still I´m seeing good results doing what you´re describing too. So there must be something, some detail maybe, that you´re missing. Let´s work together to find it and fix it. Either that or your niche is very obscure? I don´t know.
          But together let´s find out.

          How many sites have you built again? I have 19 so far.
          How many keywords / site? I have 1100 to 48,000/ site
          Did you ping them? I ping all of them. Try this: Blog and Ping Tool - Use Pingler.com to Drive Traffic your Blogs and Websites
          Are you an Amazon affiliate? Yes.
          How many CJ merchant accounts are you approved for? 140 so far.
          Are you using StatCounter?

          If you´re on Skype please feel free to call me in the evenings and we´ll get through this.
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          • Profile picture of the author huntingman
            Hey Cashtech,

            Just read through your posts and complaints and I can see where you're coming from.

            I agree that ebay is the better choice, but I don't understand your focus on CJ...?
            There are a whole load of other ways to monetize the sites.

            It does seem a bit of a let down when your just making sites and others are making a killing with ebay, but I think the key is to make it work for you (like you said) - try out different things.

            Do you have an autoresponder from another project? Try building a bigger list.

            Also, don't feel like you have to buy GoDaddy expired domains at $15 each. I certainly can't afford to go out and buy 100s of them, so I'm building new .info at $0.80 each and they're working out fine. I think Twinmom's biggest earner is a new .info, and some of Amy's too.

            Both Amy and Twinmom have contributed here - they both have great blog/advice sites with tons of useful tips. Amy has more 'How To' videos etc, while Twinmom has some great site profile tips and stats...

            Check out their blogs, and try different things mate! You don't have to get it perfect, just get it going and build more and more.

            Happy New Year

            Amy's Sites
            wpmagetips . com and wpmage-review . com

            Twinmom's Site

            magetracker . com

            p.s. Amy had the interesting idea of installing WPMU... you could make 10s of sites on one install very quickly.
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            • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
              Hi guys.
              Thanks for the feedback.

              Where in the world do you get 45,000 keywords?
              I use google adwords keyword finder.
              word wizard is okay but there are some minor hick-ups
              with the locations being shown.
              Wait a minute Frank.
              Don't answer that.
              Obviously, either the domain software is not working properly or
              you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
              I say the latter. (The Domain Mage goes in cycles and at many times they will be mostly 0's)
              You don't have a clue of what you are talking about, so there's no sense
              in arguing with someone who doesn't even know.

              BTW, there's no "calm down" to this. (Real Men don't calm down, we cool off!)
              (that's my polite way of saying #%&!-@#%)
              If that is what someone has told you to do in the past, then keep it to yourself.

              Huntingman, thank you for your response.
              Twinmom is really a wiz with numbers isn't she.
              I see others are recantly trying to compete but she is what I consider
              to be the true authority.
              Here is my focus on CJ.
              The mage admin has known about the CJ problem and is still continuing to
              try to remedy the problem with fixes.
              I have to admit that they are doing a fantastic job in there efforts.
              (Again, this is something that Frank knows nothing of what he is talking about).

              I have been with CJ for years now so I am aware of how to create a new pid account with each new site.

              I have cut CJ entirely out of the picture as of yesterday,
              and have gone to Amazon instead.
              It does pain me to have to do that.
              And on top of it all, I also have to go through and rebuild each of my sites with a
              massive amount of new keywords/posts,
              as I am sure that there is no way to add Amazon and the number of posts you want to come up, to an already existing site/posts. (accept one by one)

              Maybe this will make it easier for you to understand Huntingman...
              Witch phrase would you rather use:

              1- I just bought a $4,000.00 diamond ring from Ultra Diamonds,

              or

              2- I just bought a $4,000.00 diamond ring of of Amazon .com

              That is why Commission Junction has always been so important to me and many others
              over the years, and why it is such an important tool in my mage system.
              It makes or breaks the system for me.

              But, I am going on with a positive attitude and hoping that the tools that are
              available will make me some real money.
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              • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
                Cashtech, didn´t mean to piss you off but do you want some help or don´t you? Your last post sounded like it was screaming for some help.

                I mean, I´m getting results even if you think I don´t know what I´m talking about. Maybe I don´t, but numbers don´t lie.

                Where in the world do you get 45,000 keywords? I just used the Keywords mage and pulled them off of ebay.

                I don´t know what you´re doing exactly so I asked a lot of questions in my last post in the spirit of finding out so I could try to help you but if all you want to do is get mad then %($)#($ you too. LOL

                The way I read your post is you´re asking for help from people getting results. How do I know what you´re doing and if I can help if I don´t ask?

                How is it that I´m buying 20 domains a day, all pagerank 1 or 2 on domain mage from godaddy and you can´t seem to find any? If that´s true that you can´t find any other than pagerank 0 then I can see why you think i´m clueless.

                I have not had a single hitch with CJ using the mage so when I see someone saying they have had nothing BUT problems with it, my natural reaction is to help out if I can. But if you don´t want my help then I´ll just crawl back into my profitable, not-knowing-what-I´m-talking-about-hole and let you sort it out your own way.
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                • Profile picture of the author mido
                  Originally Posted by cashtech29 View Post

                  If I could find someone who knows how to build ebay approved sites,
                  then I would probably buy one and learn how to re-submit to them, without them knowing that they rejected my first one.
                  If you search mage forum, there is information about services building ePN approved sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I don't know what you mean, "Some pay with you Amy." I don't make ebay sites for anyone. I've been in ebay for years, so I'm not even helpful with giving advice for getting into ebay.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      No problem.
      It was really meant for anyone offering re-submission advice.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      I must say that, with the exception of a few hikups that are being worked out,
      the mage system is still one of the most powerful systems that I've seen.
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        • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
          Thanks for the comeback Robert.
          With a positive mindset, I am also looking forward to the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryllyn
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    Great thread...loved the upfront content for the product.
    I agree. This has been a very informative thread. I found this forum on a search for something else. So glad I did.

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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Hello All,

      Seems this thread has taken on a mind of its own since I started it. I like the interaction with others in the Mage ... wish I had more time to help out, but business keeps my nose to the grind most of the time.

      Cashtec, I read your problems and my heart goes out to you. But, this is not everyone's story. My CJ income ended up at $181 for December ... and I had the same feed problems as everyone else. I didn't know it, though, for about 3 weeks as I was on a big project and didn't take the time to check my stats or sites. After the latest upgrade, however, I haven't had a problem at all. I have set the time out period to skip CJ if it doesn't appear within a couple of minutes and that seems to have solved my issues.

      One thing I do differently that might make a difference: I do not use big individual product feeds; I utilize feeds from all the merchants with only 5 -7 products per affiliate feed. That way it doesn't take so long for the pages to load and, if one feed is down, I still have products from the other merchants.

      A lot of people are wondering if the WPMage system will work for them. Yes, it will ... if you "put your hand to the plow and plod through the dirt, keeping your eye on the end of the row." [My dad was a an old-fashioned preacher ... I have lots of his sayings in me that work for life in general - especially IM ]. But it won't work if you don't work it.

      Basically, Internet Marketing is all about attitude and commitment. I've tried so many things that flopped ... but in every case I have just moved on and tried something else. We all get hit with the unexpected ... I could even share a few stories about the unexpected twists and turns using the Mage but it wouldn't do anyone any good ... just muddy up someone's decision making process. When I've had a problem I've addressed that problem with Greg ... and he has always provided guidance to help me work through it. I have found that if you bend your head against the wind and work through the problems everything turns out fine. But if you spend all of your time looking for reasons why something will not work you'll forever be looking for the "next big thing" that will make you a fortune. And, you'll never find it even if it's staring you in the face.

      The truth is, the Mage system is not for everyone. Some will love it and some will hate it. I love it. Not only has it provided a huge financial benefit to me, it has broadened my friendship circle ... there's really some great people involved and I'm happy to be a part.

      I'm sure a lot of people have purchased the mage program because of this thread and that's good because I can honestly say I did not start it to make a profit in any way. I have given my honest and sincere opinion of Greg's program because I use it and have found it to be a great tool. It is not the only tool I use, and it is not (currently) my primary way of earning a living in the Internet, but it is quickly becoming one of my favorite and most profitable blogging tools and I will continue to use it as long as it works for me.

      Will that be your story? I can't promise that. No one can. You won't know either until you get in there and put it to work.

      To anyone considering purchasing the Mage system, I suggest you put blinders on to all of the negative stuff and make your own decision -- when/if it opens up again. If you've had a bad experience then go to the source ... don't go spreading your ill-will all over the WF, or in this thread. I've found Greg to be upfront and helpful each time I've needed help with an issue. He doesn't dodge issues at all. Sometimes he is painfully blunt ... but sometimes I need that, don't you?

      I realize that what I've said might not set well with some ... and, for that I'm truly sorry ... not for what I've said but for your plight. I hope (as Greg says) you find your Way. My way is to keep plugging onward ... (as I posted on my own blog - contentjuju.com/blog/ - I'm not a hare, I'm a turtle) ... and to keep my eye on my goal of $5000 per month of passive income by the end of a year using the mage tools.

      Linda
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  • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
    I have a question that maybe one of you Mage users can answer for me. The Blueprint says that you're supposed to use expired domains (I know Amy and others had success with new domains as well) for their PR and backlinks. My question though, is what good is an expired domain when you're not getting the actual website with it? All of those backlinks are now dead and useless. You can have a PR5 website and if they take the whole site down and sell you the domain, 3 months from now when Google does it's Page Rank checking again, it will plummet right back down to 0. I just don't understand the point. Can one of you explain it to me? Thanks!

    -Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author huntingman
      Hi Mike,

      I'm not too sure about the issue of Google dropping down sites after a few months, but I do know that expired domains are the best for WPMage.

      I've got about 20 sites up, and my best 3 are all expired domains - I think if you keep it to the same topic as the last site it works fine. Also, Google will deindex some sites, but you just forget it and move on.
      I have one that I put up 3 weeks ago thats getting around 200 hits a day with 2.8k pages indexed - that was one where I kept the general niche theme going on an expired domain.

      In short : Google does deindex some, but not most - so some sites will become golden tickets

      Hope that helps,

      Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
        Originally Posted by huntingman View Post

        Hi Mike,

        I'm not too sure about the issue of Google dropping down sites after a few months, but I do know that expired domains are the best for WPMage.

        I've got about 20 sites up, and my best 3 are all expired domains - I think if you keep it to the same topic as the last site it works fine. Also, Google will deindex some sites, but you just forget it and move on.
        I have one that I put up 3 weeks ago thats getting around 200 hits a day with 2.8k pages indexed - that was one where I kept the general niche theme going on an expired domain.

        In short : Google does deindex some, but not most - so some sites will become golden tickets

        Hope that helps,

        Alex
        Hey Alex,

        Thanks for the response. But that still doesn't really answer my question, so maybe I'm not putting it the right way. You say that Google has 2.8k pages indexed on one of your sites, right? Are those pages ones that you put up or did the old site come with the auction? The point I was trying to make and the question I'm trying to figure out is that if you don't get the original site with the auction then all those backlinks are now *gone* (except for ones pointing to the main domain itself of course). But for SEO purposes, no one ever gets backlinks to their main domain. You always want to have the links deeper into inner pages.

        So for example:

        I have 100 backlinks from various sites to pages on domain.com.
        I have 250 backlinks to various pages on my site (domain.com/otherpages).

        If I'm just buying the domain name, then those 250 links just vanish because those pages no longer exist. It may not get you deindexed from Google, but it will most certainly hurt your ranking in the SERPs. Once the spiders catch up to the fact that those pages no longer exist, that is.

        So that's what I can't wrap my head around. Why bother using an expired domain at all? You're not getting the website with it so the site has hardly any value whatsoever. I hope that's a little clearer.

        -Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Hi Alex

          to answer your specific question. Some people recreate the old pages of the site using the Internet Archieve, Yahoo Cache or Warrick

          But the easy (and still effective) way is that old domains, even if you have new content will sometimes retain their backlinks and more important authority from search engines, so essentially since they are already rated as "trusted" domains so you can through up whatever content you want and it will be indexed and ranked (not all of it and always, but enough to win through the "numbers")

          -Greg
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          • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
            Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

            Hi Alex

            to answer your specific question. Some people recreate the old pages of the site using the Internet Archieve, Yahoo Cache or Warrick

            But the easy (and still effective) way is that old domains, even if you have new content will sometimes retain their backlinks and more important authority from search engines, so essentially since they are already rated as "trusted" domains so you can through up whatever content you want and it will be indexed and ranked (not all of it and always, but enough to win through the "numbers")

            -Greg
            Hey Greg,

            Alex was the one trying to answer my question. I was the one asking

            But anyway, so it sounds like what you're saying is that it's backlinks (if they go to the wayback machine and try to duplicate the original site) and authority either way because the PR is still there (at least until the next round of rankings). Is that right?

            That actually leads me to another question, then. Won't you run into a huge problem with copyright infringement if you try to recreate the site? I mean you paid for the domain name, not any of the content. I would think the previous owner would sue the pants off you if you tried to do that. That's definitely not something I would even attempt.

            And again, on the other side of the coin, if you're not recreating the site (like I said, sounds like a bad idea), then you lose every one of those backlinks. You'd still get new pages indexed quickly because of the authority of the site, but what do you think is going to happen to the PR (and the authority) of the site, once the spiders find out all those backlinks are gone?

            I know your system is a short term solution. You're not really interested in SEO, you're interested in people clicking on the ads. I just really don't understand why you would bother buying expired domains in order to do this.

            -Mike
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            • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
              Originally Posted by LittleMike View Post

              Hey Greg,

              Alex was the one trying to answer my question. I was the one asking

              But anyway, so it sounds like what you're saying is that it's backlinks (if they go to the wayback machine and try to duplicate the original site) and authority either way because the PR is still there (at least until the next round of rankings). Is that right?

              That actually leads me to another question, then. Won't you run into a huge problem with copyright infringement if you try to recreate the site? I mean you paid for the domain name, not any of the content. I would think the previous owner would sue the pants off you if you tried to do that. That's definitely not something I would even attempt.

              And again, on the other side of the coin, if you're not recreating the site (like I said, sounds like a bad idea), then you lose every one of those backlinks. You'd still get new pages indexed quickly because of the authority of the site, but what do you think is going to happen to the PR (and the authority) of the site, once the spiders find out all those backlinks are gone?

              I know your system is a short term solution. You're not really interested in SEO, you're interested in people clicking on the ads. I just really don't understand why you would bother buying expired domains in order to do this.

              -Mike
              Mike

              There is alot of half-understanding in your statements.

              1 - yes, you need to review your copyright laws. so if you are worried about that skip it. most dont do it actually
              2 - you do NOT lose backlinks with new content. sometimes you do, but most of the time they just stay. people never update their sites
              3 - its a numbers game. I put up sites, they get indexed, people click, I earn. thats it. nothing else to it. Effective but not for everybody either.
              4 - Expired domains WORK. end of story.
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    • Profile picture of the author mido
      Originally Posted by LittleMike View Post

      . My question though, is what good is an expired domain when you're not getting the actual website with it? All of those backlinks are now dead and useless. You can have a PR5 website and if they take the whole site down and sell you the domain, 3 months from now when Google does it's Page Rank checking again, it will plummet right back down to 0. I just don't understand the point. Can one of you explain it to me?
      Mike,
      Forget PR. What you see are old values, as Google says - "for entertainment only". You will never know your real PR number.

      Backlinks - if you build your new site properly, all backlinks from aged domain will be fine. Forget restoring pages from archives, forget recreating the old link names - all this is waste of time.
      If you have old-domain.com and aged link is old-domain.com/abcxyz-crap
      - it will still redirect to nice page on your new website, (no - 404 not found), 200-OK, if you build it correctly (no need for special plugins or htaccess editing).
      All this has nothing to do with Mage.

      However aged domain, being few years old gives you benefit, that you can add few hundred pages here and there, and Goggle will accept and index them without sandboxing you, so that's good for mage use.
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      • Profile picture of the author copywriter
        I have built about 50 WP Mage sites to date.

        What I like about it:

        1. Great forum. One of the friendliest bunch of people I have ever met in 10 years online.

        2. The software makes installing wordpress and various plugins dead easy.

        The Negatives:

        Virtually No Traffic.

        50 + sites - tens of thousands of pages and they struggle to get 3 visitors per site a day.

        Before you ask, yes I have done the Socialbot, Rssbot, Backlinking, used Market Samurai and numerous other tools - also Pimped some sites, bought expired domains and new dotcoms plus a few .info's.

        I have tried to monetize with Adsense and Clickbank bt have been told by many users that the way to make money with the Mage is to use EPN so am having a site built to apply for that.

        As a Adsense tool I just don't believe it is possible to do decent income with Mage.

        Also, I have been making a full-time living online for 10 years so am not a newbie. A few years back, I did $370,000 in a year through Adsense.

        All in all a terrible return on investment for hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars invested.

        It will be interesting to see if the EPN makes a difference but in hindsight I think the ease of use and implied results in the salescopy have failed to match reality.

        In contrast - just one of my Xsitepro sites did 6,000 unique's in December and most of the sites I create with it for offline business owners get to the first page in Google within 3 weeks with ZERO promotion.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

          I think the ease of use and implied results in the salescopy have failed to match reality.
          The implied results in the sales copy were specifically stated and taken from my and others results with EPN.

          I think the major gap is that we are dealing with a few different factors here

          Factor One - Mage is a massive installer and creator of content and affiliate feeds

          Factor Two - Greg Jacobs uses Mage to Massively install and create sites targeted towards EPN which can earn quite well based on mine and others experiences.

          The fact is that people are earning with non-EPN methods, but in terms of Easy, put the square peg in the square slot push button, then EPN is the fast-track - just because I personally figured it out and shared it with everybody. I am 100% positive that there are other methods equally or more effective than EPN, I just have not had a chance to flesh them out. (others already have but dont share either)

          I think the point is that the tools are powerful. Those that understand what they can do can really leverage them and step outside the starter sandbox we have given.
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          • Profile picture of the author twinmom
            Yes, EPN and Mage go hand in hand. Agreed.

            That being said, though, although much slower than Ebay, other monetization methods can work. I have made more than the cost of the Mage in Adsense alone, and then there's Amazon.

            But there are other "gains" that you can't put a $ amount on straight away. On one site I already had before I started with Mage, I've been building a list. Before that site had a hundred pages at most. Now, it has a couple thousand and using MaxBounty's free plug-in, I have a very nice and inviting opt-in at the bottom of every one of those pages.

            Using adsense but not getting enough "spider food" without EPN products? Put 2 different articles per page with some Amazon products in between them, or a YouTube video in there (or both). Try a different keyword tool. Try adding one specific word to all of your keyword list. For example, if your keyword list has words like "spiked collar" and "fluffy bed" for your dog site, you can imagine the type of content that might pull. Try adding "dog" to the front of all of your keywords, so you get "dog spiked collar" and "dog fluffy bed" instead (easily done in excel).

            When all is said and done, the Mage is a tool. Tools are only as good as how they are used. Yes, following a "step-by-step" can work, but creativity can go much further.
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        • Profile picture of the author Omar
          Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

          Virtually No Traffic.

          50 + sites - tens of thousands of pages and they struggle to get 3 visitors per site a day.

          Before you ask, yes I have done the Socialbot, Rssbot, Backlinking, used Market Samurai and numerous other tools - also Pimped some sites, bought expired domains and new dotcoms plus a few .info's.

          I have tried to monetize with Adsense and Clickbank bt have been told by many users that the way to make money with the Mage is to use EPN so am having a site built to apply for that.

          As a Adsense tool I just don't believe it is possible to do decent income with Mage.

          Also, I have been making a full-time living online for 10 years so am not a newbie. A few years back, I did $370,000 in a year through Adsense.

          All in all a terrible return on investment for hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars invested.
          Maybe the salesletter was just too good and the $1000 price tag made people think "heck, at this price, it has to work". You shouldn't be sold so easy after 10 years online anyway. Good luck though (to everybody), maybe you will make at least your money back some day.
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Originally Posted by copywriter View Post


          50 + sites - tens of thousands of pages and they struggle to get 3 visitors per site a day.

          Before you ask, yes I have done the Socialbot, Rssbot, Backlinking, used Market Samurai and numerous other tools - also Pimped some sites, bought expired domains and new dotcoms plus a few .info's.

          I have tried to monetize with Adsense and Clickbank bt have been told by many users that the way to make money with the Mage is to use EPN so am having a site built to apply for that.
          If these sites are only getting 3 visitors a day, it doesn't really matter how you're monetizing them.
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          • Profile picture of the author Keen F
            Hey guys, I'd just like to say my own story =)

            Coming from parents who are bankrupt, I've had it a little rough. We lost our house to the bank and our 5 people family moved from a 6 bed room house to a two bedroom apartment. The bankruptcy and losing the house was only the beginning of it. After many series of misfortunes and people knocking on our door for money, we were scared to answer the phone or even to go out since there would be people asking for money. The family was a mess, and my parents continuously arguing for the most trivial of issues wasn't helping.

            After lurking around warrior forum for a bit, I found out that the highest killer for newbie internet marketers was inconsistency. They wouldn't stick to one method and learn from it. I also learnt that getting stuck in the details (like page rank or what if my site gets indexed? or uniqueness of articles) would only get you one place: the same spot, only a lot more confused.

            So I took a HUGE leap of faith and tried the system on for size. And did it work?
            No it didn't. Well initially. I was instantly rejected from EPN. My 50 or so sites I built got me further into debt and they were only earning a couple of dollars a day from Adsense. For the first 1 or 2 months I was wallowing in my self pity, and beating myself up every time I used money, making me feel so much worse.

            But I was determined to make this happened. I had already made plans on trying out different ways to earn with the Mage. From trying the cheaper infos, to adding a clickbank link every few paragraphs, to using amazon.

            And then something happened. Call it luck or persistence, I finally got into EPN! I turned those 50 sites into EPN, and BAM! Within days they became $30 a day machines! It seems like not all my efforts were wasted.

            For those people who were like me, only a few weeks ago. Given up on EPN, and spiting the people who do have EPN, I know what you feel. Hell, it was terrible knowing that the only difference between you and those "other people" you hear about that earns $xxx a day was only EPN. But now that I'm in after 2 months, I know that EPN is a very good earner. You should try reappealing to get yourselves in. It's freaking worth it.

            But even if I didn't earn from EPN, I'm certain one of my plans through other monetization methods would have done well. That's one thing about the Mage system (and possibly any other IM method out there), you have to EXPERIMENT. I made 50 of those Mage sites, and they earnt me squat. If you be a little creative and try different things like have no tags, have different themes, or have only one content source etc, you're sure to fall into a winner (Like I know I have with my sites).

            Another important lesson I learnt from this was that to NOT BEAT YOURSELF UP every time you use money. Sure you're in a tiny cramped apartment, with bankrupt parents with people pounding on your door for money but don't let that get you down. As hard as that sounds, I let go of that worry. Once I did that, all these ideas came to mind on ways to improve, instead of the single minded fear response.

            I now earn up to $120 a day with these sites. I learnt many things, but in a nutshell:
            • Be persistent, persistent, persistent. Keep going even when it seems like the whole internet (or google lol) is against you. Try different ways, but keep focused.
            • Enjoy it, be creative, and EXPERIMENT.
            • Don't worry about the money so much. Sure you have to be on your guard, but trying to make every penny count only gets you frozen. See the money you're using as an education.
            • Keep learning! This one was a pretty huge one. I immersed in the forum and went to twinmom's and tracy's blog every day. This seems to get your mind focused the mage, and helping you find better ways to improve your sites.
            After seeing these earnings, my brother said to me "You saved my Life! Saved me from the prison of the rat race and from the streets! We might actually live average lifestyles instead of being on the streets!" Well being bankrupt, with the fear of people coming for our most precious belongings, being left out on the streets was a very real possibility for us. I know because of the financial 'climate' I'm not the only one in this situation.

            Even then, I'm still far from out of the danger zone but I'm on my way. I may have saved my own life, and saved my brothers. But how far are you going to go to save yours?
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            • Profile picture of the author twinmom
              What an inspiring story! Thanks for sharing.

              You certainly have the right mindset. It seems that you just refused to be defeated and used this attitude to be creative and persistent, which is half the battle.

              Congrats on your success! Don't forget to treat yourself and your family to special things occasionally.

              Tracy
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            • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
              Originally Posted by kfoong View Post

              Hey guys, I'd just like to say my own story =)


              Another important lesson I learnt from this was that to NOT BEAT YOURSELF UP every time you use money. Sure you're in a tiny cramped apartment, with bankrupt parents with people pounding on your door for money but don't let that get you down. As hard as that sounds, I let go of that worry. Once I did that, all these ideas came to mind on ways to improve, instead of the single minded fear response.

              I now earn up to $120 a day with these sites. I learnt many things, but in a nutshell:
              • Be persistent, persistent, persistent. Keep going even when it seems like the whole internet (or google lol) is against you. Try different ways, but keep focused.
              • Enjoy it, be creative, and EXPERIMENT.
              • Don't worry about the money so much. Sure you have to be on your guard, but trying to make every penny count only gets you frozen. See the money you're using as an education.
              • Keep learning! This one was a pretty huge one. I immersed in the forum and went to twinmom's and tracy's blog every day. This seems to get your mind focused the mage, and helping you find better ways to improve your sites.
              After seeing these earnings, my brother said to me "You saved my Life! Saved me from the prison of the rat race and from the streets! We might actually live average lifestyles instead of being on the streets!" Well being bankrupt, with the fear of people coming for our most precious belongings, being left out on the streets was a very real possibility for us. I know because of the financial 'climate' I'm not the only one in this situation.

              Even then, I'm still far from out of the danger zone but I'm on my way. I may have saved my own life, and saved my brothers. But how far are you going to go to save yours?
              ...FANTASTIC! I haven't visited this thread in awhile. Glad I came back here. Thanks so much for sharing that. The ones who succeed in this business have exactly that sort of attitude.

              I have been doing very well with the Mage, but Yes - I do have EPN. Always looking for ways to diversify as well though because EPN are a bunch of psycho's imo.
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    LittleMike,

    You are close to understanding the simplicity of it, but not quite.

    Basically, you can recreate the site structure that already has links pointing to it.

    So for example if there was a page that had links to it at this address:

    www.ageddomain.com/articles/motor-cars.html

    (or whatever)

    You buy the domain and if you are reasonably quick, a few weeks or so, and create a page now under your control with the same address i.e.:

    www.ageddomain.com/articles/motor-cars.html

    The original link pinting to it is still quite valid.

    You don't put the original content back as that is naughty etc..

    You just create some new content of your own or purchase it or whatever, but put it at a page that has the links pointing to them before they become invalid.

    Simple.

    Don't over-think this system or this issue in particular.

    Sam
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Crooks
      You are absolutely right except for one thing.. The backlinks from all the external sites don't become invalid. What can happen is that the webmaster of the pages giving your site backlinks might realise your aged domain page has changed and remove the link. Links don't become invalid, they either exist or they are removed.

      The question about whether Google stop counting that backlink is another one altogether. In my experience I have not seen any proof that Google stop giving any credence to backlinks if the owner of the site receiving the link changes or even if the content changes.

      Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

      LittleMike,

      You are close to understanding the simplicity of it, but not quite.

      Basically, you can recreate the site structure that already has links pointing to it.

      So for example if there was a page that had links to it at this address:

      www.ageddomain.com/articles/motor-cars.html

      (or whatever)

      You buy the domain and if you are reasonably quick, a few weeks or so, and create a page now under your control with the same address i.e.:

      www.ageddomain.com/articles/motor-cars.html

      The original link pinting to it is still quite valid.

      You don't put the original content back as that is naughty etc..

      You just create some new content of your own or purchase it or whatever, but put it at a page that has the links pointing to them before they become invalid.

      Simple.

      Don't over-think this system or this issue in particular.

      Sam
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      • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
        Originally Posted by Steve Crooks View Post

        You are absolutely right except for one thing.. The backlinks from all the external sites don't become invalid. What can happen is that the webmaster of the pages giving your site backlinks might realise your aged domain page has changed and remove the link. Links don't become invalid, they either exist or they are removed.

        The question about whether Google stop counting that backlink is another one altogether. In my experience I have not seen any proof that Google stop giving any credence to backlinks if the owner of the site receiving the link changes or even if the content changes.

        Ok.

        Invalid, deleted, expired, 404'd all same kettle of fish for practical purposes regarding WPMage.

        Put some content at the place where a link points to and that eliminates the bot reaching a dead end.

        Most links on the net don't get "managed" as such as it is too time consuming and the majority of links are from people who find something useful and mention it somewhere or other such as on forum's, blogs, web 2.0 etc... Yes there are others where "webmasters" may scrutinise the links more often, but again we are mainly talking about aged domains which probably weren't very useful or worth much originally in most cases.

        The main issue is making sure as best as possible that google finds something when the bot swings round again.

        If it were me I would make the content as related as possible to the link etc.

        Again don't surprised the bot too much etc.

        Sam
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        • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
          Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

          Ok.

          Invalid, deleted, expired, 404'd all same kettle of fish for practical purposes regarding WPMage.

          Put some content at the place where a link points to and that eliminates the bot reaching a dead end.

          Most links on the net don't get "managed" as such as it is too time consuming and the majority of links are from people who find something useful and mention it somewhere or other such as on forum's, blogs, web 2.0 etc... Yes there are others where "webmasters" may scrutinise the links more often, but again we are mainly talking about aged domains which probably weren't very useful or worth much originally in most cases.

          The main issue is making sure as best as possible that google finds something when the bot swings round again.

          If it were me I would make the content as related as possible to the link etc.

          Again don't surprised the bot too much etc.

          Sam
          Hey Sam,

          Thanks! You answered the question for me in your previous post. The wise thing to do would be to create content that uses the same URL as the old backlinks or you will in fact lose them (they will be 404'd, obviously). That's what I was getting at. Having backlinks doesn't mean squat if they no longer point to a valid page on your site. That was my point. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
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        • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
          Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post

          Ok.

          Invalid, deleted, expired, 404'd all same kettle of fish for practical purposes regarding WPMage.

          Put some content at the place where a link points to and that eliminates the bot reaching a dead end.
          That's the trick, exactly. It takes a little time (to do it manually), but it is worth it. I think there's a plugin you can get that will automate that but I haven't installed it as yet. I just create pages with the same name or, if that's not possible (if the old site it wasn't a WP site) I add the page and redirect it to a relevant blog post.

          Linda
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          • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
            Originally Posted by Linda Van Fleet View Post

            That's the trick, exactly. It takes a little time (to do it manually), but it is worth it. I think there's a plugin you can get that will automate that but I haven't installed it as yet. I just create pages with the same name or, if that's not possible (if the old site it wasn't a WP site) I add the page and redirect it to a relevant blog post.

            Linda
            Linda, thank you for verifying what Sam said. That's exactly what I was talking about. I didn't understand the point of using expired domains if the backlinks all ended in dead ends. Creating new content with the same URL's is the workaround. So would redirects work as well? Even just a custom 404 page? This way it stays on your domain and they don't receive and actual 404 error.
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            • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
              Hi Mike,

              The best thing is to recreate the page, if possible ... or, at least one with the same name. Sometimes that's not possible because the original site may have been on a different format (not WP), so, in that case, I simply create a page with that name (no content on it at all) and use a 0 refresh rate to redirect to a post of my choosing. I also use .htaccess but that can get really big, so that's not a good idea for a lot of pages.

              Custom 404 pages will work but are not the best idea -- better to have the 301 permanent redirect.

              Does that answer it for you?

              Linda
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              • Profile picture of the author LittleMike
                Originally Posted by Linda Van Fleet View Post

                Hi Mike,

                The best thing is to recreate the page, if possible ... or, at least one with the same name. Sometimes that's not possible because the original site may have been on a different format (not WP), so, in that case, I simply create a page with that name (no content on it at all) and use a 0 refresh rate to redirect to a post of my choosing. I also use .htaccess but that can get really big, so that's not a good idea for a lot of pages.

                Custom 404 pages will work but are not the best idea -- better to have the 301 permanent redirect.

                Does that answer it for you?

                Linda
                Absolutely, thank you. I'm very technical minded, so throwing up a 301 redirect is no problem. Now I can see how expired domains can be very useful. Thank you for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author eaglechick
    Greg I've been looking for a system like this, as I'm probably also technically disadvantaged like some people pointed out in this thread. So thank you for creating this system and sharing it with us.

    It must have cost you a pretty bundle to develop this and then you can ask for it whatever you want as the owner. If someone think it is too pricey then don't buy it - as simple as that. But please keep to constructive criticism and do not bash people.

    Other automated systems I looked at require a $200 monthly fee for various "plug ins"
    services etc. and also an once off $250 investment. I'll rather pay you for something that really works and Linda sounds like an honest reviewer to me than pay for 20 $47 ebooks that promises a high income that does'nt work.

    And Dori Friend is a respected well-known SEO expert and she also suggest buying aged domains in her free 7 step SEO E-book that came highly recommended by Brad Callen (another well-known SEO expert)

    May 2010 bring you and the users of your program bucketloads of cash - I'll be one of them very soon.
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      It's not available for sale at the moment. They have limited openings.
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  • Profile picture of the author graham41
    I just got the full Magi er Mage..

    What in the world do I do with it now?

    G
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
      Originally Posted by graham41 View Post

      I just got the full Magi er Mage..

      What in the world do I do with it now?

      G
      G, I suggest reading all the PDF´s and watching all the videos, then start building sites. DOOOW.

      Got sites? LOL
      Twinmom and Amy have some great sites that explain more of how to get started, but it´s all based on Greg´s instructions in the PDF´s and videos anyway. Start there.

      Good Luck!
      P.S.-Happy to help if I can.
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  • Profile picture of the author chiakurdi
    I purchased WP Mage and it is rally cool Software
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  • Profile picture of the author Joanne Reid
    I went to check out Mage but the site says "Sorry, access to WP Mage is now closed." What happened to it?
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    • Profile picture of the author twinmom
      Originally Posted by GeekGranny View Post

      I went to check out Mage but the site says "Sorry, access to WP Mage is now closed." What happened to it?
      It's currently closed for new subscribers. They had limited spots available.

      Not sure if it will open up in the future or not, but certainly worth getting on Greg's list to be notified when it does.

      Tracy
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  • Profile picture of the author candidate96
    1000$ for an autoblog script. are you making money with this script. 10k$ per month? lolz
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  • Profile picture of the author parus
    Does anybody know when Greg will reopen wpmage?
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  • Profile picture of the author StephenSmithE
    Linda,

    Thank you for your thread. I'm so looking forward to getting inside WP Mage and using the tools and resources. I'm glad that you achieved the success you hoped for.

    Stephen
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  • Profile picture of the author JK Nyerere
    For those thinking about joining the WPMage, you might seriously want to try to join the Ebay Partner network while you are waiting for the membership to open up.

    Most people who are making any useful money with it, seem to be making it from EPN. By useful I mean $30-$100 per day. I have not seen any success story in the forum of anyone making more than $100 per day consistently. The homeless guy posting above making $120 is the first I have heard of a user making that much consistently.

    There are a several people in the forum who are happy with $10-$50 per day day after 3 or more months of building 100 plus sites. And of course there are several newbies who see themselves as successes after reaching the $10 per day mark.

    So if you are happy with $10-$50 per day, I think the WpMage with EPN can get you there within 2-3 months. If you are seeking $100 per day though, I think the unreliability of the EPN would make it quite difficult and short term.

    No doubt there are probably 2 or 3 customers of it who are making more than $100 per day with the system, but they are very quite and not saying so in the forum.

    The major problem appears to be that EPN tends to relish terminating successful accounts. If you have built your 200 websites in 3 months, losing your EPN account means losing 90% of your earnings.

    Also in order to get the most from the system, it is not as simple as clicking a few buttons. You will need to use a few other applications and tricks to make the process work for you. Expect to spend 1-3 three hours to build each site.

    Upon full website indexing (1-3 months), expect $0.50-$1 per site if you will monetize with your EPN account. If you don't have an EPN account and are using Adsense or affiliate networks, expect $0.10 per site.

    Be careful not to suck up the "build build build" mindset that some of the long term users and developer seem to advocate. Buying domain names costs money and the opportunity cost of building the sites may not be worth your while if you do not evaluate what you are doing.
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    • Profile picture of the author graham41
      I must be missing something. I still can't get my head around the whole wordpress setup process ( automated). I bought the advanced product. I understand the concept but I am really struggling on the setup.

      Greg I really need some help here.

      Or anyone , I will pay, I just don't get the whole wordpress installation /mage deal.

      I am very busy with my tax work so I thought this automated thing would simplify things but I'm spinning my wheels and getting frustrated.

      G:confused:
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
        Originally Posted by graham41 View Post

        I must be missing something. I still can't get my head around the whole wordpress setup process ( automated). I bought the advanced product. I understand the concept but I am really struggling on the setup.

        Greg I really need some help here.

        Or anyone , I will pay, I just don't get the whole wordpress installation /mage deal.

        I am very busy with my tax work so I thought this automated thing would simplify things but I'm spinning my wheels and getting frustrated.

        G:confused:
        Our support desk is very helpful with specific questions, you can get started there or for more general concepts please ask in our user to user support forums, we have over 15,000 posts and the user base can do alot to help you get started.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    The Mage is closed right now, sorry.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I'm not sure what else to say that hasn't been said! I can recap and give an update, I guess.

    Other Mages build their sites differently than me. Linda builds them very thoughtfully and carefully.. she's awesome!

    I'm impatient, however, and go for sheer numbers. I want LOTS of sites. I now have around 250. I've lost count of exactly how many. Over half of them are on new .info's. The rest are the expired domains. The expired domains definitely perform better. But in six months, the .info's may gain some google trust and settle in the SERPS. They have certainly paid for themselves, and the 15 minutes it took to make them was totally worth it. I'll make more in the future.

    Some sites have only 200 posts, some sites have 10,000 posts. I think my average is around 2,000-3,000 posts per site.

    Most of my money comes from ebay. But, I put ebay on nearly all of my expired domains. My .info's are mostly adsense. I also have a lot of amazon. I should do more amazon.

    I rarely use translation, but am thinking of creating some foreign sites where the competition is less. To do so with the Mage would take about 2 extra clicks.

    So far, total, as of today, my Mage sites have earned $3,930.40. I'm pretty happy about that! I started on September 22.

    Hmmm what else to say? Greg keeps adding more and more features to the Mage. Not fixing things, but EXTRA features. He doesn't have to do that. But he does, and doesn't charge for the upgrades.

    My advice if you're thinking about buying the Mage when it reopens...
    1. Be ready to build LOTS of sites. This is a numbers game. You won't make $1,000 with 5 sites. (Unless you're really lucky.)

    2. Be ready to pay for those sites... hosting is around $8/month for around 30 sites. And domains cost anywhere from $.89 for a new .info to $15-$20 for an expired domain.

    3. Join the mage forums. There are much smarter people than me there, and they are even nice and helpful! Together, the Mage community continues to assist each other and explore even more ways to make money with the Mage. I've been in the Mage forums WAY more than these forums lately.

    I wish you all the best,
    Amy Kay
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    • Profile picture of the author Linda Van Fleet
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post

      3. Join the mage forums. There are much smarter people than me there ...
      Amy ... I totally disagree. I have watched you grow into a very successful and confident Internet Marketer since your first post on the Mage forum. You are an inspiration to all of us.

      So is Tracy (twinmon). She and I started at the same time and she has zoomed toward success at an awesome speed. I am so impressed with both of you youngsters!

      There's plenty of help from the mage forum ... and from WPmage support. It is "community" in the truest sense of the word because while we are all competitors, we are also interested in the success of our fellow magers. That's pretty awesome in the push and shove, scratch and scramble world of some IM programs.

      I have enlarged on my own thoughts here: WP Mage Secrets Revealed ... be inspired!

      Linda
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      • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
        Does anyone see the possibility of making some serious money with the Mage?

        I don't mean a thousand or two. I mean say $100,000 per year plus.

        Also, it seems that most of the hundreds of sites people throw up, make perhaps a few hundred dollars a month at most. Usually much less.

        So is there a way to make worthwhile big bucks without creating 1,000 sites or even much more?

        Sam
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Originally Posted by TelegramSam View Post


          So is there a way to make worthwhile big bucks without creating 1,000 sites or even much more?

          Sam
          Yeah you need to "pimp" exsisting sites. You need to get a REAL blogs that has REAL (not made for IM) content and REAL exsisting visitors and then leverage that authority already assigned to that blog and backdate thousands of affiliate filled pages.

          That is how you do it with just a few sites.

          The big trick and hurdle here for IM'ers is that most don't have (or are willing to risk) these "real" sites and they are tricky to come by as the flipping market is almost useless for mage purposes.

          My best earning site gets about 5k a month from EPN and I "tacked on" about 10,000 posts to the back of a techincal forum (built on wordpress) where the regular users have no idea about all the posts as they are only visable from the sitemap.
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          • Profile picture of the author thinredline
            Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

            Yeah you need to "pimp" exsisting sites. You need to get a REAL blogs that has REAL (not made for IM) content and REAL exsisting visitors and then leverage that authority already assigned to that blog and backdate thousands of affiliate filled pages.

            That is how you do it with just a few sites.

            The big trick and hurdle here for IM'ers is that most don't have (or are willing to risk) these "real" sites and they are tricky to come by as the flipping market is almost useless for mage purposes.

            My best earning site gets about 5k a month from EPN and I "tacked on" about 10,000 posts to the back of a techincal forum (built on wordpress) where the regular users have no idea about all the posts as they are only visable from the sitemap.
            So for the people don't possess these "real" sites there are no serious money can be made for WPMage users, right? I guess they may made some money, but nothing earth shattering.
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            • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
              Originally Posted by thinredline View Post

              So for the people don't possess these "real" sites there are no serious money can be made for WPMage users, right? I guess they may made some money, but nothing earth shattering.
              lol well no, not at all

              I just told you the best way. Yes there are other ways and peoples results will vary.

              If 10k a month is considered "serious" money to you then yes serious money is possible without pimping. people use it differently and even differently than I understand or recommend.

              As an experienced IM'er you should not look and judge how person A,B,C (or even me) is doing, but rather examine the system and determine if it is something you can leverage based on your knowledge. It is way more powerful than I even understand how to use it.

              If you are just waiting for some magic formula, then you will never find it despite having access to every system and formula out on teh internets.
              Success comes with finding the TOOL that you feel comfortable with and using it to your knowledge and taking responsibility for your actions.

              that is the only way.
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              • Profile picture of the author tldagent
                Originally Posted by askloz View Post

                COUGH: Duplicate Content
                Congrats on your 'self proclaimed' seo expertise. Now all you need is a few good lessons in effective communication and you'll be good to go. I've struggled with this in the past as well so don't take it as an insult please. (Looks like you are working with Greg and offering some of your SEO expertise, good to know and see.)

                Here's a good video I saw when it was uploaded that explained a bit about duplicate links content. This may be of some assistance to those who have concerns about this.


                I haven't purchased this product yet but I've been skimming through this thread and reading up about it and if I do end up purchasing this, know that I will voice my opinion on it honestly. I won't however sit here behind my keyboard bashing a product I have not tried.

                One think I'd like to say is that I appreciate the transparency provided by Greg thus far. He's responded to my PM and it doesn't look like he's trying to hide anything and this is important. So far, I like what I'm seeing with this product.... still on the fence though and have more to read.

                ADDED:

                I have one question though, yesterday Ebay made an announcement on changing their link structure for RSS links. Are changes like this met and dealt with by the Mage team? Check the announcement here: RSS feed is being updated | eBay Partner Network Blog | eBay Affiliate Program News

                It may not effect them.

                Also, I have a couple other questions....

                Can I use several hosting companies with this product? I have dedicated servers, hostgator shared plans, reseller plans, etc etc and I like to spread my IM across several unique IPs just in case. Is it possible to do this with the mage system? Thanks again, cannot wait to get my hands on this product the more I read!
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                • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
                  You can install the mage on as many different servers as you like, in fact, that is the
                  effective strategy that works with mage owners.
                  Dedicated servers are great because you have your own ip address and not a shared ip with hundreds of others.
                  I would not have more than 25 or 30 mage sites on one server before starting fresh with a new server.

                  Hope this helps.
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                • Profile picture of the author mido
                  Originally Posted by tldagent View Post

                  I have one question though, yesterday Ebay made an announcement on changing their link structure for RSS links. Are changes like this met and dealt with by the Mage team? Check the announcement here: RSS feed is being updated | eBay Partner Network Blog | eBay Affiliate Program News
                  It may not effect them.
                  What ePN announced about new affiliate link structure is:
                  For the vast majority of publishers, there will be no need to make any changes to the way you promote eBay or to how the RSS feed is configured. However, if you are using software or tools to further manipulate the RSS feed links (e.g. Build A Niche Store or PHPBay), you may need to check that your links still work properly after the change has been implemented.
                  This affects software which uses advanced manipulation of ebay RSS feeds.
                  With phpBay you can use up to 18 parameters in eBay tag comparing to only 2 parameters in mage-ebay.
                  So I use phpBay in my posting-mage.
                  And phpBay responded overnight with the fix to accommodate new ebay link structure.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Bence Ur
                    Hello,

                    I read this in the free WP Mage Blueprint:

                    M a s t e r Af f i l i a t e La w #1
                    NEVER - EVER - EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
                    Use Google Analytics with affiliate sites
                    I hope I made myself clear there.
                    The Google Analytics TOS basically says they can do anything they want with the data they collect
                    and this includes using it to determine search engine rankings.
                    By installing their code on your site, you are giving them a backdoor window into your traffic patterns
                    and they will quickly discover that your site is not the type of site they want in their index.
                    What do you think about this? Any good Google Analytics alternatives?

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                    • Profile picture of the author Eric Transue
                      I have been using StatCounter StatCounter Free invisible Web tracker, Hit counter and Web stats and GetClicky Web Analytics in Real Time | Clicky

                      For most of my Mage sites I start off with StatCounter and if I need more info I will insert the GetClicky code once traffic ramps up.
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                      • Profile picture of the author sickbaomei
                        A pretty good but free alternatives to Statcounter would be Statpress..
                        just Google it.. its a free plugin for wordpress

                        Originally Posted by Eric Transue View Post

                        I have been using StatCounter StatCounter Free invisible Web tracker, Hit counter and Web stats and GetClicky Web Analytics in Real Time | Clicky

                        For most of my Mage sites I start off with StatCounter and if I need more info I will insert the GetClicky code once traffic ramps up.
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                        • Profile picture of the author JBird85
                          I am very interested in the Mage system. When I was digging around in the War Room I saw the Mage blueprint read it all the way through, then I went to the website to find more info on this great sounding product.
                          But it seems it is no longer available Am I readin that right? It sounded like it just launched in November why is it already gone?
                          JBird85
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                          • Profile picture of the author twinmom
                            Originally Posted by JBird85 View Post

                            I am very interested in the Mage system. When I was digging around in the War Room I saw the Mage blueprint read it all the way through, then I went to the website to find more info on this great sounding product.
                            But it seems it is no longer available Am I readin that right? It sounded like it just launched in November why is it already gone?
                            JBird85
                            JBird
                            There were a limited number of memberships available. It sold out in just a few days, I believe. Greg does occasionally have a few openings. Be sure to get on his mailing list so you will be notified when it's available.
                            It's worth the wait!
                            Tracy
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                    • Profile picture of the author Bence Ur
                      Originally Posted by Bence Ur View Post

                      Hello,

                      I read this in the free WP Mage Blueprint:

                      M a s t e r Af f i l i a t e La w #1
                      NEVER - EVER - EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
                      Use Google Analytics with affiliate sites
                      I hope I made myself clear there.
                      The Google Analytics TOS basically says they can do anything they want with the data they collect
                      and this includes using it to determine search engine rankings.
                      By installing their code on your site, you are giving them a backdoor window into your traffic patterns
                      and they will quickly discover that your site is not the type of site they want in their index.

                      What do you think about this? Any good Google Analytics alternatives?

                      What a joke - I looked into the source code of wpmage.com.

                      Guess what - they use Google Analytics.
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                      • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
                        Whoa!
                        Kind of makes you think of... Why so secretive if the software is supposed to be so good?
                        could it be a quality-of-content thing, or that most site programs like this have been shut down
                        by google and others in the past, leaving all of the investors out in the cold?
                        Or maybe not.
                        Who really knows...

                        I'd love to hear you got the information for the anylitics and if it is somehow
                        being used by the coders to secretly track each individual members information...
                        ... That sounds pretty scary...
                        Or could they just be tracking their own sales letter??
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                      • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                        Originally Posted by Bence Ur View Post

                        What a joke - I looked into the source code of wpmage.com.

                        Guess what - they use Google Analytics.
                        :p

                        the html landing page on wpmage.com is not what we are teaching you to build in the system.

                        Different type of site with a different purpose. Google is not going to Ban our wpmage.com domain, however if I put up a site with

                        10,000 generated pages overnight (for instance) and do not take precausions and give google too much information, then that will get banned

                        GA gives info to Google, you just have to determine if that info is going to be helpful or hurtful based on the scope of your individual site.

                        (btw... we have something in Dev much better than GA anyways!!)
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                        • Profile picture of the author Bence Ur
                          Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

                          :p

                          the html landing page on wpmage.com is not what we are teaching you to build in the system.

                          Different type of site with a different purpose. Google is not going to Ban our wpmage.com domain, however if I put up a site with

                          10,000 generated pages overnight (for instance) and do not take precausions and give google too much information, then that will get banned

                          GA gives info to Google, you just have to determine if that info is going to be helpful or hurtful based on the scope of your individual site.

                          (btw... we have something in Dev much better than GA anyways!!)
                          Thanks, that makes sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author thinredline
      Originally Posted by AmyKay View Post


      I'm impatient, however, and go for sheer numbers. I want LOTS of sites. I now have around 250. I've lost count of exactly how many. Over half of them are on new .info's. The rest are the expired domains. The expired domains definitely perform better. But in six months, the .info's may gain some google trust and settle in the SERPS. They have certainly paid for themselves, and the 15 minutes it took to make them was totally worth it. I'll make more in the future.


      So far, total, as of today, my Mage sites have earned $3,930.40. I'm pretty happy about that! I started on September 22.

      Amy Kay
      Hi Amy,

      I know it's a number game. But based on your statistics, it does not look very profitable.

      $3,930.40/250 sites = $15.72 revenue per site for 4 months.
      Let's say your average cost per domain is $10 (it may be high), then 250 sites will cost you $2,500. Plus software cost $1000 (you may got it for much less though) and hosting plan cost, you may just get to the break even point, let alone your cost of labor.

      So I guess you need to improve the margin per site instead of continue rolling out more sites.

      Correct me if my calculation missed anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I admit, I haven't pimped a single site. Shame on me!
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  • Profile picture of the author tldagent
    After carefully going through this thread and reading much of what you all have written I've decided to take the plunge and paid for the full product. Thank you to all those who have been responding and reviewing this product.

    One thing that tipped the scale for me was I already have been an EPN affiliate for quite a while so as I've read here in the thread, that's been the largest hurdle for some of you that don't already have EPN approval. I must have been grandfathered into the system as I've been an avid ebayer since 1998.

    Another thing that sort of tipped the scale for me was I already have more than 400 old domain. I started on the web as an ebayer, then a domainer so I've been one of these who have tried many many products in an effort to monetize my own collection of domain names. Buying these from scratch would be very expensive for several hundred of these.

    So, I'm going to give this a shot and I'll follow up with an honest and thorough review of this product. I'm first going to start with a hostgator shared account that I already have up and running.

    Thanks again Greg for this product and I look forward to all the future updates and improvements where seo is concerned.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashtech29
      Originally Posted by tldagent View Post

      After carefully going through this thread and reading much of what you all have written I've decided to take the plunge and paid for the full product. Thank you to all those who have been responding and reviewing this product.

      One thing that tipped the scale for me was I already have been an EPN affiliate for quite a while so as I've read here in the thread, that's been the largest hurdle for some of you that don't already have EPN approval. I must have been grandfathered into the system as I've been an avid ebayer since 1998.

      Another thing that sort of tipped the scale for me was I already have more than 400 old domain. I started on the web as an ebayer, then a domainer so I've been one of these who have tried many many products in an effort to monetize my own collection of domain names. Buying these from scratch would be very expensive for several hundred of these.

      So, I'm going to give this a shot and I'll follow up with an honest and thorough review of this product. I'm first going to start with a hostgator shared account that I already have up and running.

      Thanks again Greg for this product and I look forward to all the future updates and improvements where seo is concerned.
      Be very careful with your existing ebay sites.

      Pimping 400 existing sites will throw up a red flag with ebay and they will strip your account.

      You must handle ebay with kid gloves, as they are not affiliate friendly.
      They are looking for any excuse they can find, to ban their existing affiliate partners.

      Pimping sites in the wrong way is exactly what they are looking for.

      That's right...
      ...ebay hates you, as a partner.
      They hate you and they want you out...
      Not just mages but anybody that want's to partner with them and bring them
      money to put in their pockets...
      Just don't forget that...
      They hate you!
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I have a dedicated server, and have multiple IP addresses at very little cost. So I still have only 30 sites per IP address.
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  • Profile picture of the author thomashoi
    Seems that folks using this system is only interested in traffic but have anyone thought of the marketing side?

    The headlines, the emotional part?

    Nobody will buy from a site which can't connect to the them.

    Also, it is possible that if too many people start using this system, Google could
    detect it easily and probably delist such sites for good.

    I don't know if I'm right but this is how I feel.
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    • Profile picture of the author deeross
      Originally Posted by thomashoi View Post

      Seems that folks using this system is only interested in traffic but have anyone thought of the marketing side?

      The headlines, the emotional part?

      Nobody will buy from a site which can't connect to the them.

      Also, it is possible that if too many people start using this system, Google could
      detect it easily and probably delist such sites for good.

      I don't know if I'm right but this is how I feel.
      I have WP Mage. In the instructions, Greg Jacobs specifically says to have a static page for your home page or landing page. This is the marketing side. The auto blogging is to constantly add fresh content to your site for SEO purposes. Also, some people may be interested in the articles and then see the affiliate links. I have found that the affiliate links may need some tweaking, but they can be very accurate with regard to the topic of the page.

      As for too many people using it, maybe that is possible. But Greg Jacobs has been using the system for his own income, and seems determined to keep it under the radar.

      Dee Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author czilbersher
    I've been Maging for about 2-1/2 months and have just over 140 sites. Nearly all my traffic comes from my existing or pimped sites but I'm hoping to see some traffic to my .info sites in the near future. I'm currently bringing in betw. $25 and $40/day so I'm pretty pleased with the program thusfar. (At least it's paid itself off which is far more than I can say for most programs I've gotten involved with.
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    • Profile picture of the author magentawave
      And by "existing or pimped" sites, do you mean that you bought old domains? If so; do you redirect the old domain at your domain registrar to go to your new WP Mage sites?

      The other thing I was wondering about buying old domains (which I understand is one of keys for WP Mage effectiveness); is it enough to buy a domain that was registered 5 years ago but was never used to for a live website? Or does it have to be a website thats been live and active for all those years?

      Thanks
      Steve


      Originally Posted by czilbersher View Post

      I've been Maging for about 2-1/2 months and have just over 140 sites. Nearly all my traffic comes from my existing or pimped sites but I'm hoping to see some traffic to my .info sites in the near future. I'm currently bringing in betw. $25 and $40/day so I'm pretty pleased with the program thusfar. (At least it's paid itself off which is far more than I can say for most programs I've gotten involved with.
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      • Profile picture of the author czilbersher
        Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

        And by "existing or pimped" sites, do you mean that you bought old domains? If so; do you redirect the old domain at your domain registrar to go to your new WP Mage sites?

        The other thing I was wondering about buying old domains (which I understand is one of keys for WP Mage effectiveness); is it enough to buy a domain that was registered 5 years ago but was never used to for a live website? Or does it have to be a website thats been live and active for all those years?

        Thanks
        Steve
        Both. I've bought old domains and I've pimped my old, existing domains. The advantage of buying old domains is hopefully it's acquired some backlinks, maybe a little PR (though not as necessary), and has a little indexing history. If the old domain was just sitting there, parked, I can't imagine it will be terribly useful. As for your question on redirection, this is not applicable. I pimp my old sites by using WP Mage within the same site; there's no redirection because its not going to a different site. This is all very easy to do and once you get the hang of it, it's really just a few minutes of point and click. Much less work than other systems I've used.
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        • Profile picture of the author magentawave
          No redirect from the old domain to your new domain? Really? If your WP Mage site is about cars (for example) and you're using an old domain like PoodlesForLess.com, will your visitors see PoodlesForLess.com in their browsers address bar?

          Thanks
          Steve



          Originally Posted by czilbersher View Post

          Both. I've bought old domains and I've pimped my old, existing domains. The advantage of buying old domains is hopefully it's acquired some backlinks, maybe a little PR (though not as necessary), and has a little indexing history. If the old domain was just sitting there, parked, I can't imagine it will be terribly useful. As for your question on redirection, this is not applicable. I pimp my old sites by using WP Mage within the same site; there's no redirection because its not going to a different site. This is all very easy to do and once you get the hang of it, it's really just a few minutes of point and click. Much less work than other systems I've used.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
        Originally Posted by RobertRusso View Post

        Have you noticed traffic steadily ramping up or does it seem to fluctuate? How would you say your new pimped traffic compares to the traffic your existing sites generate? In other words, does the pimped traffic seem to be proportional to existing? Any obvious correlations?
        Thanks in advance.
        I have been using the mage for about 2 months and do not have an EPN account yet and built 58 sites that are making about $8.oo per day so far.
        The stats seem to be growing steadily higher each day including the income stats. I am applying for an EPN account this week.
        Yes the traffic does fluctuate up and down but the over-all trend is growing higher. People are contacting me asking to link to my sites, getting a lot of comments on the sites and even have a couple people that contacted me asking to advertise on my site. They are paying my $15 each per month to link to my homepage. Over-all I´m very pleased with results and look forward to adding Ebay. In the 2 short months I have been using the system they have added 3 upgrades that are giving me more income opportunities and the results are better than anything I have seen online before. On a scale of 1 to 10 I give it a 10
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        • Profile picture of the author magentawave
          A few questions please Frank...

          1) Are you saying that you are averaging about $8.00 per day per site which is $8.00 X 58 = $464.00 profit PER DAY?

          2) Is that income from Adsense, Amazon and affiliate links?

          3) You said: "They are paying my $15 each per month to link to my homepage" but did you mean that they are paying you $15.00 to PUT a link ON your homepage?

          4) Are you building your sites with old domains like Greg says to do or did you build all of them with new domains?

          Thanks
          Steve
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
            I am saying that all of my 58 sites combined, using adsense, amazon and cj affiliates only, are making $8.00 per day after 2 months since building my 1st site. This number is growing as more pages are getting indexed.

            Yes, I am using expired domains bought from GoDaddy. If fact, I am doing exactly as Greg instructs and nothing more that that.

            And the requests for links to my sites are mostly link swaps with the other site but some have contacted me and offered and then actually are paying me $15 per month to link to my homepage. Yes, they are paying me $15 per month to link to my homepage.

            So, after 2 months I am making about $8 X 30days = $240 from affiliates
            plus $15 X 3 payed for links per month = $45
            $240 + $45 = $285 per month and growing.

            I am applying for an EPN account this week and will let you know how that goes. I´m also building more sites daily.
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            • Profile picture of the author jamiedolan
              HI,

              I read through much of this thread and what I don't understand is how you get any traffic to these pages you create?

              I created an article directory where I copied free articles from other directories. I get many of them indexed, but they are buried in the search results, and it gets very little traffic. It is up to almost 2,000 pages, still very little traffic (less than 10 people a day most days).

              So how are these sites you make and different? Do you spin the content and that makes the difference?

              Thanks
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              • Profile picture of the author magentawave
                Why does Greg tell you to make the homepage a static page?

                Steve



                I have WP Mage. In the instructions, Greg Jacobs specifically says to have a static page for your home page or landing page.

                Dee Ross
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                • Profile picture of the author Midas3 Consulting
                  Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                  Why does Greg tell you to make the homepage a static page?

                  Steve
                  I would presume because if the little workers Google pays from the back of beyond to verify sites are "legit" land on the home page, they won't instantly put a tick in the naughty box.

                  If your home page is obviously full of content that's been yanked from other sources and "spun" via a language translator, even these guys are going to notice and tell tales on you to Google.
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                • Profile picture of the author rhj12345
                  Originally Posted by magentawave View Post

                  Why does Greg tell you to make the homepage a static page?

                  Steve
                  When you load up your keywords and the mage goes to work, the pages have code but no content until they are viewed for the first time. So this makes the first load time slow. I always go back and choose by category so my pages get made.

                  So the reason is if you have a static page, you have a quick load time on your home page. Not the latest post, that has to be created when someone views it for the first time.

                  Hope this helps - and I use the mage.

                  Rob
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              • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
                Originally Posted by jamiedolan View Post

                HI,

                I read through much of this thread and what I don't understand is how you get any traffic to these pages you create?

                I created an article directory where I copied free articles from other directories. I get many of them indexed, but they are buried in the search results, and it gets very little traffic. It is up to almost 2,000 pages, still very little traffic (less than 10 people a day most days).

                So how are these sites you make and different? Do you spin the content and that makes the difference?

                Thanks
                I thinks it´s a combination of the links to product feeds to all the affiliate sites that all have buying keywords in them and the articles, yahoo answers, youtube, etc. All I really know is I´m getting more and more traffic each day overall.
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                • Profile picture of the author jamiedolan
                  Originally Posted by Frank Tocco View Post

                  I thinks it´s a combination of the links to product feeds to all the affiliate sites that all have buying keywords in them and the articles, yahoo answers, youtube, etc. All I really know is I´m getting more and more traffic each day overall.
                  Frank,

                  Thanks for your response. How are you selecting your niches?

                  Do you know is WP Mage is still being sold?

                  How is the support, is it still being updated on a regular basis?

                  Thanks

                  Jamie
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                  • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
                    Originally Posted by jamiedolan View Post

                    Frank,

                    Thanks for your response. How are you selecting your niches?

                    Do you know is WP Mage is still being sold?

                    How is the support, is it still being updated on a regular basis?

                    Thanks

                    Jamie
                    Support has been fantastic. Both from the mage team and the mage forums and yes, the updates keep on coming. There was just another upgrade a week ago with them adding more affiliate programs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Not So New
    Hey Guys,

    This program looks cool. For those that are using it, what are the on going costs that are needed? Apart from additional hosting accounts and the $5 domains. Anything else?

    Also once you purchase, is there an upsell?

    Please let me know.

    Thx

    Sid
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelmac
    The Mage is Awesome!

    Have been using the paid version for 3 months and have 60 sites spread over 3 hosting accounts. I place 25-30 sites on each account so as not to raise any flags with my host company, HG, for excessive bandwidth useage.

    My monthly earnings to date on average are Adsense $250-$300, CB $100-$150, Amazon $50-$75 and CPA $30-$50. Not great but totally handsfree. I have my static front page containing only adsense, 3-4 niche relevant pages again with adsense followed by my backend pages filled with CPA, CB and Amazon ads. I start each site with a drip feed of 3000 posts. All i do is ping the site as a whole plus my pages and then move on.

    My best site to date is in the tattoo niche and is attracting 3500-4000 uniques per month. It is only 3 months old and i did nothing other than the above to it. It is number 2 out of 5million+ sites broad match on G for its primary kw.

    Don't get me wrong, not all my mage sites get that traffic, but of my 60 sites 17 are getting 1000+ uniques per month so i'm happy with that. These are a combination of old expired domains, new .coms and new .infos.

    I'm building 1-2 sites per day, and i'm at the stage now where each site takes me 25-30 minutes. It is a really smoothe system and i'm so happy with it.

    I recommend, as has been mentioned above, that you get on Greg's list and look out for those openings...you won't regret it!

    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author Bence Ur
      How do your traffic sources look like? Do you only get visitors from Google?

      How do you promote your websites?
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      • Profile picture of the author magentawave
        Michael,

        A few questions please...

        1) You aren't using eBay at all yet?

        2) You said you have: "...3-4 niche relevant pages again with adsense followed by my backend pages filled with CPA, CB and Amazon ads." Are you saying that the other 2096 pages of content are NOT relevant to the theme of your site?

        3) Are the sites with the old domains producing more income than the new domains - and are they profitable faster too?

        4) If you're using old domains, are the domains relevant to the subject matter of your site - or do you use some kind of redirect plugin?

        Thanks
        Steve



        Originally Posted by michaelmac View Post

        The Mage is Awesome!

        Have been using the paid version for 3 months and have 60 sites spread over 3 hosting accounts. I place 25-30 sites on each account so as not to raise any flags with my host company, HG, for excessive bandwidth useage.

        My monthly earnings to date on average are Adsense $250-$300, CB $100-$150, Amazon $50-$75 and CPA $30-$50. Not great but totally handsfree. I have my static front page containing only adsense, 3-4 niche relevant pages again with adsense followed by my backend pages filled with CPA, CB and Amazon ads. I start each site with a drip feed of 3000 posts. All i do is ping the site as a whole plus my pages and then move on.

        My best site to date is in the tattoo niche and is attracting 3500-4000 uniques per month. It is only 3 months old and i did nothing other than the above to it. It is number 2 out of 5million+ sites broad match on G for its primary kw.

        Don't get me wrong, not all my mage sites get that traffic, but of my 60 sites 17 are getting 1000+ uniques per month so i'm happy with that. These are a combination of old expired domains, new .coms and new .infos.

        I'm building 1-2 sites per day, and i'm at the stage now where each site takes me 25-30 minutes. It is a really smoothe system and i'm so happy with it.

        I recommend, as has been mentioned above, that you get on Greg's list and look out for those openings...you won't regret it!

        Michael
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        • Profile picture of the author Alansplace
          The cost of wp-mage is as follows

          Join up - $1000.00 dollars
          Old Domain avg. $8 plus register fee avg $9.00 = avg $18.00 dollars for each
          Shared hosting - host gator $35.00 a month up to 100 sites


          Also it is important to have a site made to qualify for the ebay partner network this is the network that usually makes the most money.

          Take Care
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          • Profile picture of the author candidate96
            Originally Posted by Alansplace View Post

            The cost of wp-mage is as follows

            Join up - $1000.00 dollars
            Old Domain avg. $8 plus register fee avg $9.00 = avg $18.00 dollars for each
            Shared hosting - host gator $35.00 a month up to 100 sites


            Also it is important to have a site made to qualify for the ebay partner network this is the network that usually makes the most money.

            Take Care
            and then you make around 100-300$/per month?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    Couple of quick questions. Why is it necessary to have multiple IP addresses or even perhaps multiple servers? Are you referring to multiple internal IP addresses on the same NIC or multiple public IP addresses? And by the term server are you referring to my own PC or an external server? Since the hosting is done through a hosting package leased elsewhere does this really matter?

    And on the subject of Keyword research which would you recommend to be the most ideal to compliment the Mage system? And what is your keyword research strategy (ie do you do an indepth analysis of the top 10 ranking sites of a particular niche before you dive in or do you just test the waters)? I have also seen references to a few individuals who omit the keyword research phrase and use that time for mage site implementation instead. Do you think this is a good approach and if it is, what variables should I take into consideration here?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vegas
    "Sorry, access to WP Mage is now closed. You can however still get The Mage Blueprint for free."

    I just discovered the existence of the WP Mage system from this thread ... unfortunately, as it appears from their website, just a little too late.

    My questions to Greg are:

    1. Will WP Mage re-open?
    2. If so, then when?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ayhar
    Hello All:

    What an informative thread. And WP Mage sounds like a great tool.

    My question is if there are 50-100 or more WP sites created, how do you manage all the WP version update, plugin update?

    It will be very time-consuming to manually update each one of them.

    If there is a way to manage all, please let me know.

    Thank you very much!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
    @Vibrant - we spread out our sites to eliminate single points of failure.
    as for Keyword research, how we teach it best compliments the usage of the software as you have to take a different approach than the 'normal' methods

    @Vegas - no publix openings for now, though get on our list and we will let you know first

    @Ayhar CPMAGE has an auto-updater built in which updates all your mage sites plugins with a click.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    @Greg - Which particular software do you recommend for Keyword research with the WPMage system?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    I am extremely intrigued about the point raised about old domains vs new domains.

    Which would you say is more effective..50 sites built on new domains or 10 sites built on older domains using WPMage? Of course, no one can guess this to perfect accuracy but perhaps someone can refer to some of their recent projects and comment on this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
      Originally Posted by Vibrant Warrior View Post

      I am extremely intrigued about the point raised about old domains vs new domains.

      Which would you say is more effective..50 sites built on new domains or 10 sites built on older domains using WPMage? Of course, no one can guess this to perfect accuracy but perhaps someone can refer to some of their recent projects and comment on this.
      I only have a couple new .info sites and they are making money, it just takes awhile longer to start seeing results. The expired domains have faster results in my experience.

      and to your other question to Greg;
      @Greg - Which particular software do you recommend for Keyword research with the WPMage system?

      The WPMage system includes the the Keyword searching tools and instructions on how to use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author candidate96
    i still dont understand how u can get visitors by those "short keywords" with no backlinks and promote.
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    • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
      Originally Posted by candidate96 View Post

      i still dont understand how u can get visitors by those "short keywords" with no backlinks and promote.
      quite simply - we have found that the real "magic" lies in the seo value of the ebay listings themselves. having the ebay listings on your pages, even for a page titled "green ball", will bring relevant visitors because the SE's will hone in on the actual keywords in the multiple ebay listings pulled for that page. Granted, if you coded your template to pull from a single category, they'd be much more relevant and alike.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bence Ur
        Originally Posted by trishworks4u View Post

        quite simply - we have found that the real "magic" lies in the seo value of the ebay listings themselves. having the ebay listings on your pages, even for a page titled "green ball", will bring relevant visitors because the SE's will hone in on the actual keywords in the multiple ebay listings pulled for that page. Granted, if you coded your template to pull from a single category, they'd be much more relevant and alike.
        So the only traffic source of your WP Mage sites is Google?
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Originally Posted by Bence Ur View Post

          So the only traffic source of your WP Mage sites is Google?
          google, yahoo.... bing....

          social media or backlink traffic is almost useless for our methods.

          we found that incredible conversions come from when people are searching for the actual product name in the listings. (obviously)
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          • Profile picture of the author cybernet
            Greg, my partner is considering to purchase your software mostly for the purpose of building an opt-in mailing list. The goal is to promote his main money making site.
            Profiting via ebay and other aff. networks is only of secondary importance to him.

            The problem, as I see it, is that

            1) he needs opt-ins from Canadians only (services at his money making site are applicable to Canadians)

            2) the niches that he needs to target are not product related but rather information specific

            3) i find it hard to believe that people would be likely to opt-in on the sites that offer content of questionable value.

            Do you think it'll be a good investment for him?
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            • Profile picture of the author ozduc
              Originally Posted by cybernet View Post

              Greg, my partner is considering to purchase your software mostly for the purpose of building an opt-in mailing list. The goal is to promote his main money making site.
              Profiting via ebay and other aff. networks is only of secondary importance to him.

              The problem, as I see it, is that

              1) he needs opt-ins from Canadians only (services at his money making site are applicable to Canadians)

              2) the niches that he needs to target are not product related but rather information specific

              3) i find it hard to believe that people would be likely to opt-in on the sites that offer content of questionable value.

              Do you think it'll be a good investment for him?
              I would say that it would be a very expensive system to use for the purpose of creating a landing page. You could do that in word press for free or create a static opt-in page with a free website builder like kompzer.
              Mage sites are designed to be set and forget monetized sites that grow in content and hopefully search results as time goes on. For that it is very effective.
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              • Profile picture of the author mick535
                Originally Posted by ozduc View Post

                I would say that it would be a very expensive system to use for the purpose of creating a landing page. You could do that in word press for free or create a static opt-in page with a free website builder like kompzer.
                Mage sites are designed to be set and forget monetized sites that grow in content and hopefully search results as time goes on. For that it is very effective.
                I just answered this same question from him in another thread just a few days ago. He really wants the easy auto blog answer, but the reality is that you are exactly right. Why use an auto blog when you can create a target set of landing pages for this purpose?

                Mike
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                • Profile picture of the author cybernet
                  the problem with landing pages is that you have to drive traffic to them. and that cost money...
                  My friends idea was - and i don't agree with him - to hire someone from India to do blogging on multiple subjects related to his niche. He thinks an autoblogging platform would be a lot cheaper and more effecient and that woul allow him to collect more opt-ins compared to a landing page which requires constant ppc expense.

                  What he fails to understand - in my opinion - that visitors are not likely to opt-in if they see poor quility content.

                  What do you guys think?

                  Originally Posted by mick535 View Post

                  I just answered this same question from him in another thread just a few days ago. He really wants the easy auto blog answer, but the reality is that you are exactly right. Why use an auto blog when you can create a target set of landing pages for this purpose?

                  Mike
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                  • Profile picture of the author mick535
                    Originally Posted by cybernet View Post

                    the problem with landing pages is that you have to drive traffic to them. and that cost money...
                    My friends idea was - and i don't agree with him - to hire someone from India to do blogging on multiple subjects related to his niche. He thinks an autoblogging platform would be a lot cheaper and more effecient and that woul allow him to collect more opt-ins compared to a landing page which requires constant ppc expense.

                    What he fails to understand - in my opinion - that visitors are not likely to opt-in if they see poor quility content.

                    What do you guys think?
                    This is seriously off topic here, but what I would do is to create a free product that he could offer for download via 20-30 related landing pages on 3-4 sites. Drive traffic to those sites and people will opt-in for the free download, but they will do it more if the content on the Landing page is relevant to the download. Yes, you can and I do it to a certain extent with auto blogs, but the reality is he is looking to target a specific niche and to gain credibility for himself. To gain credibility alone, you need to make sure that you are offering a solid product and reason for the opt-in otherwise your unsubscribe rate will be enormous anyway.

                    It is basic marketing really. If he want to auto blog, he will find out that auto blogging can get you some opt-ins, but you are taking a chance at it. With targeted landing pages, you are being more purposeful in what you are trying to accomplish.

                    I am a serious Auto Blogger and I consider my Auto Blogging product to be the best in the business, but I won't push it on everyone for everything because it is not a one size fits all endevour.

                    Just my 2 cents.

                    Mike Johnson
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                  • Profile picture of the author ozduc
                    Originally Posted by cybernet View Post

                    the problem with landing pages is that you have to drive traffic to them. and that cost money...
                    My friends idea was - and i don't agree with him - to hire someone from India to do blogging on multiple subjects related to his niche. He thinks an autoblogging platform would be a lot cheaper and more effecient and that woul allow him to collect more opt-ins compared to a landing page which requires constant ppc expense.

                    What he fails to understand - in my opinion - that visitors are not likely to opt-in if they see poor quility content.

                    What do you guys think?
                    Ok, here's what your friend could do if he is set on going this route.
                    Set up as many auto blogs as you want but have a static front page of good quality content related to the niche with links pointing to a landing page on another domain or sub domain. That way the auto feed will be there in the background so to speak and you can make the static page very relevant to the squeeze page.
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                  • Profile picture of the author 2009crunch
                    Juat a quick one - I have the software its fantastic! I was making good money with it with Ebay, but got banned (not because of Mage) I did not put the ebay logo on a usfreeads add I had. However since then I only make small amout with Mage using adsense. All want to say that if your looking to make large bucks from Mage make sure you have your EPN account up and running before you join and just double check Ebay's TOR - good luck
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        • Profile picture of the author HighPowerSites
          What is the latest on WP Mage? I haven't seen any real testimonies on money being made and we should start seeing some by now since this has been out for some time.

          I hope some of you will let us know how you are doing.

          I am considering buying this but would like to see how things are going since testing has been done.

          Thanks everyone!

          Scott
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          • Profile picture of the author HighPowerSites
            Amy:

            Thanks for the input. That is a big help.

            I own many websites and actually specialize in membership based websites. I own over 20 community and membership based sites and have done very well for the last 10 years. I am still doing that but now looking to get more into this "Niche" site building.

            If you don't mind, where do you buy your aged domains and do you have a good technique to find them quickly?

            Thanks and I appreciate your feedback!
            Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    Has anyone tried SEOHosting.com with WPMage? I think it's Hostgator's VPS solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
    re: keyword research with the mage, well...

    I recommend the systems included with Mage. ie.. Keyword Mage and Word Wizard. They are designed to work.

    if you try to rely on "traditional" methods, it will be ineffective
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    I can't find Overstock through CJ. I know Overstock is available in the UK now but how about the affiliate program?

    Also the Linkshare Token mentioned on the Mage Setup page, is it the same as the Linkshare ID?
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  • Profile picture of the author Shazza101
    Sounds interesting, will check out out, thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Avidpoet
    Can this be done manually until I get an opportunity to get in if or when you guys open your doors back up?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    Getting back to the point I mentioned about SEOHosting.com. I think their VPN solution is really cheap ($35 a month with 20Gb space and 5 C-Class IP addresses). The extra IP addresses will only cost you $1 each. And you can get the first month free using the code: 35off. I signed up with Paypal and 1 cent for the first month's subscripion so if I didn't like their service I could always cancel through the Paypal subscriptions section. And it comes with a good money back guarantee anyway. The support is great because its Hostgator basically. But setting up the WHM and the private Name Servers take a bit of effort. It really is a matter of following instructions but it's not ideal for absolute beginners.

    A couple of questions on keyword research while I am here..
    I think both Keyword Mage and Word Wizard are ingenius.
    I was thinking of using Word Wizard to find my ebay niches because I can just use the seed word from one of my search results and plug it in Word Wizard and from there generate a long list of related keywords. Do you think this is a good way to go or should I just stick with Keyword Mage for my ebay related niche research? I tried plugging in a seed keyword into Keyword Mage along with the categories but wasn't able to geneate any results.

    Also would you say 1000 keywords generated through Keyword Mage or Word Wizard is far more effective than targeting a single long-tail keyword? Or are we basically targetting this much of keywords in order generate the content? What if Keyword Mage only could come up with say 20 combinations matching my criteria with the best result showing a frequency of just 100. Would you still say it's a good niche to go into?

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkmossop
    Hi Linda... thanks for the review.

    I have Mage right now as well, but haven't started using it yet as I'm focussing my efforst on a few other things.

    Part of what I didn't want to get started with now with the Mage stuff was having to drive traffic. So, I was just wondering how you drive traffic to your mage sites? Are they all SEO'd, or did you have to write a ton of articles etc to get your traffic?

    Also, with these other guys you mentioned who are making money with this system, did they simply set up the sites, completely as advised and are now profiting?

    Thanks for any help! Just wondering how simple this all is.

    EDIT: Sorry I didn't read through the entire thread... I see this has already been talked about. So it seems basically only SEO is used based on the keywords from the mage tools?
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  • Profile picture of the author AmyKay
    I set mine up pretty much exactly as described. In fact, I did even less work than Greg recommends, and am making profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrbusinessman
    Hey greg I seen that the WP mage is not for use now..but when will you have it back up and can we do the 3 monthly paymants of $347. That would be really cool to do. I would wait as long as you put it back up it doesn't matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author sharitchritin
    When people join wpmage membership, can they install wp and create sites automatically with the membership?
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    • Profile picture of the author dschoen
      Originally Posted by sharitchritin View Post

      When people join wpmage membership, can they install wp and create sites automatically with the membership?
      Yes, pretty much, there is alot of setup stuff to do, but it is mostly plugins, Greg has a neat little tool for finding dropped domains, that still have pr and link juice and some age on them, it's set up to buy the domains from godaddy and you just fire up your host add the domain set up wp upload the plugins, put in your keywords, your id's and you can go back as far as you want and in the future and it builds pages and pages of content with products, plus adesense if you want, it is really a sweet deal. But ebay is the big money maker.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vibrant Warrior
    How's everyone getting on with Adsense and Amazon? Personally I don't have EPN as yet and I know it's a real drawback. So I am looking for other profitable avenues of monotizing my sites.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author tldagent
    It's a good product. I'm seeing revenue come in mainly from Ebay affiliate program.

    Couple things I don't like. The price of the product is very expensive but they use free phpbb for their forum software and their forums are all clumped into together. Announcements aren't really announcements because you have to go into the Master Mage private forum to get those, which again is all clumped into one table of just topics rather than broken down into categories to make it easy to find information or get involved. I don't use their forums for this reason. It simply hurts my eyes to look at it.

    Based on the price of the product, I'd like to see a better forum. Half of the product is the community behind it and using a free open source forum with limited wysiwyg features is a definite turn off. So to make it more inviting and easier to find information, some time and care should be put into the forum. Maybe the use of vBulletin or one of the premium forum software would be more sufficient. I have a vBulletin license and have administered a busy forum and categorizing everything is important. I mean, since we are paying for a premium product I would like to think Greg cares enough to provide a premium community and premium software to support it.

    There's a new version out. I never heard about this until I visited their forums, which I don't do because it's all slapped together into one table with many many topics. One table with currently 1901 topics all not categorized. YUCK!

    The software itself is fantastic. The forums, while full of information, are not so fantastic. Private member forums and overall community are equally as important as the product itself.

    I haven't upgraded yet to the new version. Would I buy again?... I'm not sure. Would I recommend buying? If it's being sold by the thousands yest advertised to a limited audience, then no.

    That's my honest review, take it or leave it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nomad Warrior
    ok, it's been approx 6 months since launch.
    time to come clean and show your stats folks...

    no more hype, no more bragging; let's see some numbers

    1)
    who broke even given $1000 price tag and approx $10 / domain and hosting costs?
    hands in the air for actual ROI please...

    2)
    how many sites got banned by Google and for what reason?

    3)
    what are the real pros and cons of mage after using it religiously for the past 5-6 months?
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    I am a little lost why this costs $1000. Mind you i am pretty much a "wordpress crack", i also know and use tools like WPManagerDX for mass blog deployment and management and i am somewhat savvy when i comes to autoblogging.

    I havent read a LOT about WPMage except that i got a mail from G. Brown today, and the first thing coming to mind was "ah, some WP installer" with some ebay/amazon etc. plugins and autoblogger feature. The price tag "shocked" me, mildly spoken.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vinod Kumar Jadge
      Thanks Amy,

      Yes, I do agree with GeorgR. Price tag is something that's holding me back and as they keep promoting this WP Mage after every 3-4 months, I think I'll try my luck next time.

      As I can use WP Robot for a while and earn some money. Waiting for some good testimonials here on WP Mage in near future.

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
        Originally Posted by Vinod Kumar Jadge View Post

        Thanks Amy,

        Yes, I do agree with GeorgR. Price tag is something that's holding me back and as they keep promoting this WP Mage after every 3-4 months, I think I'll try my luck next time.

        As I can use WP Robot for a while and earn some money. Waiting for some good testimonials here on WP Mage in near future.

        Thanks
        For $1000 you can not only get wp-robot, but as good as any kicka$$ WP plugin out there, wptweetbomb etc...and then you still have $700 or so left
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    i got a email from G. Brown today and had one from Alex Goad 3 or 4 weeks ago,i would really like to get this,but $1000,i also got approved by ebay 2 days ago so looking for a way to get that going, i think wp mage looks great,and i wished i had found this befor i wested so much money on other stuff lately,what i do no is if you are thinking about getting this the doors get closed quick,
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    • Profile picture of the author gulftrotter
      Hi Kevintg1,

      Plan to apply to get a ebay network partner account, any any advice in order to get it at the first attempt, cz i read that it is hard to get it?

      Thks.

      Originally Posted by kevintg1 View Post

      i got a email from G. Brown today and had one from Alex Goad 3 or 4 weeks ago,i would really like to get this,but $1000,i also got approved by ebay 2 days ago so looking for a way to get that going, i think wp mage looks great,and i wished i had found this befor i wested so much money on other stuff lately,what i do no is if you are thinking about getting this the doors get closed quick,
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        • Profile picture of the author FredS
          I just finished Blueprint Mage and I am very impressed. While I am waiting for the product to be sold again I am building sites manually without the automation of Mage. Is there any entrance currently, even membership sites? Does anyone know how long before it will be on sale again?
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          One question for Greg if he reads all of the posts in this thread; I read somewhere of someone using ".info" domains rather than expired, because they get them so cheap . They claim the result is about the same.
          Any thoughts?
          Thanks.
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          • Profile picture of the author twinmom
            Originally Posted by FredS View Post

            I just finished Blueprint Mage and I am very impressed. While I am waiting for the product to be sold again I am building sites manually without the automation of Mage. Is there any entrance currently, even membership sites? Does anyone know how long before it will be on sale again?
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            One question for Greg if he reads all of the posts in this thread; I read somewhere of someone using ".info" domains rather than expired, because they get them so cheap . They claim the result is about the same.
            Any thoughts?
            Thanks.
            Hi Fred, I know you are asking for Greg's opinion on particular, but thought I would jump in too. Some of us are having good success with .infos. Greg's plan recommends expireds - plain and simple. And there's a reason - expireds DO perform better on average.

            But.... there's no one way to use Mage. It's a very powerful tool and with some creativity, it can be magical (pun intended).

            Tracy
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        • Profile picture of the author gulftrotter
          Originally Posted by PJ Harmsworth View Post

          It can be hard, there is no one size fits all solution. However, there are some good tips out there. Just put the words wpmage epnapproval in to Google search and you will find the information you are looking for.

          Thks got the info (Greg's pdf, thks Greg, hoping that I will be one of your WPM user soon !!).

          By the way, the site that you submitted was created for getting EPN approval or you were already owned it?
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      • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
        hi gulftrotter
        i just did what ebay told me to do,add the code to my web site, and confirm,then they phoned me to confirm my number,then 2 days i was in. it seemed to easy.
        my web site i used was other a year old and a pr 2 so that might of helped

        Kev
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      • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
        if any one needs some really good info on the wp mage you sould check out amykays blog
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        • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
          I also mostly buy expired domains but have about 20 .info sites with wpmage and have had success with those as well.

          For those looking for a purchase button, I think your best bet is to opt-in for the Mage Blueprint and just get started there. That will be your most effective means of "getting in".
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        • Profile picture of the author gulftrotter
          Originally Posted by kevintg1 View Post

          if any one needs some really good info on the wp mage you sould check out amykays blog
          I became a member and started watching some of her videos.

          Thks.
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  • Profile picture of the author judeman
    Many thanks Linda for the clear review. Also for your honesty. I wish you well. But I will have to pass up on the Mage cause it's simply too expensive for me. Wish all the "Magers" out there good luck though!
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  • Profile picture of the author cabeto
    Is someone being successful (making good money) using Mage without Ebay (EPN)?

    Has anyone being successful with CJ, Amazon, Clickbank, etc using Mage?

    Thanks,

    Carlos
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Tocco
      Originally Posted by cabeto View Post

      Is someone being successful (making good money) using Mage without Ebay (EPN)?

      Has anyone being successful with CJ, Amazon, Clickbank, etc using Mage?

      Thanks,

      Carlos
      Yes, I'm making about $400 a month without ebay with 100 sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author mick535
      Originally Posted by cabeto View Post

      Is someone being successful (making good money) using Mage without Ebay (EPN)?

      Has anyone being successful with CJ, Amazon, Clickbank, etc using Mage?

      Thanks,

      Carlos
      I use CPA and Clickbank offers on my sites and make twice as much as I do on my Ebay "oriented" sites. Using auto blogs to bring in focused traffic in a tight niche is one of the best things about using this model for making money. Too many people have tunnel vision and seem to think EPN is the only way to make money like this. That couldn't be further from the truth. Using the Mage Posting templates you can litteraly do anything with a post that you want to do and it is only limited by your imagination.

      Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author FredS
        Hi Michael,
        I've been watching the videos from Mage Blueprint and Greg refers to Affiliate Mage , Adept Mage and getting them for free. I am seriously considering purchasing on next roll out , but I could never figure out how to get these two downloads. I've tried emailing Greg , but all I get is automated responses. Any help with this?

        Thanks,
        FredS
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        • Profile picture of the author internetguy11
          hey Greg or anybody that can help

          I was trying to purchase the WP mage in the latest part of april and also this time around but the problem is that my pay pay account will not allow me to make that purchase of the product. the customer rep. mentioned that the merchant is under investigation and it should clear up 1 to 2 days from now so then i can purchase the product. I asking how long will the product be up for sale and is there an alternate payment source.

          did anyone else have this problem *
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          • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
            Originally Posted by internetguy11 View Post

            hey Greg or anybody that can help

            I was trying to purchase the WP mage in the latest part of april and also this time around but the problem is that my pay pay account will not allow me to make that purchase of the product. the customer rep. mentioned that the merchant is under investigation and it should clear up 1 to 2 days from now so then i can purchase the product. I asking how long will the product be up for sale and is there an alternate payment source.

            did anyone else have this problem *
            no all is in accord on our end and always has been. I sometimes wonder about some of things that paypal says. I think they just have a bunch of monkeys hitting random copy and paste answers

            these are support desk matters we have one. submit support issues there, not in this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author gulftrotter
    I read on this forum and in other forums that it is better or you must have an epn Before purchasing WPM, on the other hand I read 2 posts above of persons whom making money ( one, 400 $ with 100 sites, and the other don't mention the amount, will be great if he could and with how many sites, using clickbank and cpa).

    More testimonials about persons making decent money without an EPN could give use a better overview of WPM.

    Thks,

    Cheers.
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    • Profile picture of the author CBrooks
      Is WP Mage open right now?
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    looks like it is still closed

    SorrSorry, access to WP Mage is now closed. You can however still get The Mage Blueprint for free. Simply enter your name and email in the form below. y, access to WP Mage is now closed. You can however still get The Mage Blueprint for free. Simply enter your name and email in the form below.
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    Hi zane
    i had to post here for some reason could not replay

    i am still on the fence with this,i think it looks good,but a bit costly,+ all the domains and all the hosting accounts for each 25 to 30 domains,
    you can still send the link

    thanks Kev
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  • Profile picture of the author Baselstm
    Hi everyone
    I am interested to know what is working on on wp mage and unfortunately have to build blogs the hard way but i just wanted to ask those people who have the wp mage what is working for them ie what niche and what product would you recommend.I will understand if you do not want to disclose this but if anyone does then I can get some idea of what blogs I can build so i do not waist my time building a blog that does not monetize.

    Thanks in advance for any help here
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinebisnes
    I am rather use wp + shoppingpress + wp-robot than using wp-mage.
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    • Profile picture of the author lkhealey
      I am a recent Mage owner and am learning the system and watching this forum and the one on CPMage as well for ideas, etc. I did click on the link to watch the video of Greg's on Core and found it very helpful to watch. Personally, I think the fact that 10% of Mage Owners succeed is very positive. Since other posts/sites state that only 3% of Internet Marketers succeed, it seems to me that we've increased our odds substantially by owning Mage! We went from only a 3% chance to a 10% chance. We've increased our odds by over 3 times. I have been involved in real estate for years - the success in that field is also a similar 3 to 5% chance. I recently tried another endeavor - the success rate is only 1.5%. Any field that can provide substantial income is one that is extremely difficult to succeed in. It is just life. I don't know if I'll make it in Internet Marketing, but I'll never know unless I give it my all. I've never succeeded in anything I've done in life until I did just that. Thanks for the reminder Greg.

      Let's be the 10%!
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        • Profile picture of the author trishworks4u
          Lol - Top 10% of the class? That's a cakewalk! At least give me a challenge!

          ...especially when you figure that an overwhelming percentage of people jump in expecting to fail in the first place!

          Honestly some people really aren't built for this and are much better suited to stand behind a counter all day asking "would you like to super-size that meal?" and collecting a weekly paycheck.
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        • Profile picture of the author terit
          Just a word of caution to anyone who may be considering this program. I bought the mage about 6 months ago and implemented the lessons. To date I have not had any success with the system. What I'm giving you is my experience and words of caution.

          Greg says over and over that it's a numbers game. You need to take that very seriously. If you are not prepared to make hundreds of sites to see even a trickle of cash coming in, then don't attempt to use this system. Remember that these sites are built on expired domains the cost of which adds up pretty quickly. If you don't have the budget for it or if you are hoping to earn some money to put back into buying more domains, you are going to have a problem.

          The next issue I had was membership to EPN. I followed the training exactly and put together a site and applied to EPN. I was accepted but when I tried to use the account I could not. When I opened a support ticket I was told my account would have to be closed as EBay does not support my part of the world.

          Now the reason why this is so significant is, it is extremely difficult to make any money with the mage system without an EPN account. Now I know that some mage owners may say, but I'm making money with adsense, or overstock, but the real money is with Ebay.

          I think the creators of the program may have been a bit more forthcoming with this information when they were pushing the program. It would have saved people who have no hope of being accepted into EPN from wasting time and a good deal of money. Not a lot for some, but to someone just starting, it's a big loss.

          As I said at the beginning, I'm not knocking the system one way or the other. I just think people need to be armed with this information before they jump in.

          Regards,
          Teri

          P.S I opened a support ticket a while back outlining these concerns and the response I got was "I'm sorry you are having such a difficult time but I'm not sure what it is we can do for you"
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          • Profile picture of the author Pubster
            Originally Posted by terit View Post

            Just a word of caution to anyone who may be considering this program. I bought the mage about 6 months ago and implemented the lessons. To date I have not had any success with the system. What I'm giving you is my experience and words of caution.

            Greg says over and over that it's a numbers game. You need to take that very seriously. If you are not prepared to make hundreds of sites to see even a trickle of cash coming in, then don't attempt to use this system. Remember that these sites are built on expired domains the cost of which adds up pretty quickly. If you don't have the budget for it or if you are hoping to earn some money to put back into buying more domains, you are going to have a problem.

            The next issue I had was membership to EPN. I followed the training exactly and put together a site and applied to EPN. I was accepted but when I tried to use the account I could not. When I opened a support ticket I was told my account would have to be closed as EBay does not support my part of the world.

            Now the reason why this is so significant is, it is extremely difficult to make any money with the mage system without an EPN account. Now I know that some mage owners may say, but I'm making money with adsense, or overstock, but the real money is with Ebay.

            I think the creators of the program may have been a bit more forthcoming with this information when they were pushing the program. It would have saved people who have no hope of being accepted into EPN from wasting time and a good deal of money. Not a lot for some, but to someone just starting, it's a big loss.

            As I said at the beginning, I'm not knocking the system one way or the other. I just think people need to be armed with this information before they jump in.

            Regards,
            Teri

            P.S I opened a support ticket a while back outlining these concerns and the response I got was "I'm sorry you are having such a difficult time but I'm not sure what it is we can do for you"
            I completely agree with Terit unbiased opinion. He is DEAD ON!
            If you already have EPN go for it. If not Delay your purchase to you do. Don't buy in to the scarcity factor. That is IM 101. It will be back and you can buy it later. Don't be in such a hurry for this system because if you need to make money quickly it is not the system for you anyway.
            It's great to hear an honest review by someone who is telling the truth and does not have a grudge.
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            • Profile picture of the author copywriter
              It is stuff like this that makes me not want to be known as an Internet Marketer.

              Teri Said"

              " P.S I opened a support ticket a while back outlining these concerns and the response I got was "I'm sorry you are having such a difficult time but I'm not sure what it is we can do for you"

              Here are some suggestions:

              1. Refund their purchase.

              2. Release a new/updated/made-over version of the Mage that actually does work.

              3. Start a weekly Mage-Only webinar and deal with people's questions live
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              • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
                Originally Posted by copywriter View Post


                Here are some suggestions:

                1. Refund their purchase.

                2. Release a new/updated/made-over version of the Mage that actually does work.

                3. Start a weekly Mage-Only webinar and deal with people's questions live
                Hi again Chris Bloor, copywriter. I will respond point in Point.
                Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

                1. Refund their purchase.
                If a customer requests within 30 days we issue a refund.
                Someone purchases our software and evaulates whether it is useful to them for 30 days. If them deem it not useful for their needs, then they request a refund and we issue it without hassle.

                Dont see the issue here?

                Actually you should know that customers that write us and say something like "I just want to see if I make my money back in 30 days"

                we generally reply to them with the following:

                "Thank you for trying out WPMAGE. You need to understand that you have purchased Software. This software is versicle and modular and has made both Greg and many others a sustainable income through their usage of it.

                However as we know results may vary and your usage of the software along with numerous other factors (some within your control and some not) will determine your success or failure.

                Therefore we strongly suggest that if you NEED TO MAKE MONEY NOW. Or "waiting to see if it works" then you request your refund right now.

                You have purchased software, not a miracle pill. Please determine if you find this software useful for your needs. Also if you have specific questions about usage or optimizing your experience, please let us know and we are happy to help"

                The Fact is that we have created an excellent piece of software. Is it perfect? No. Not at all. It is always being improved? Yes?

                Can it guarantee your success?
                No Way!

                Is it a damn good bet and path to follow as far as Internet Marketing Products go?
                YES!!!!

                I know this with conviction because I have personally seen quite a few Mages jolt up to 4 and (even) 5 figure monthly income after really digging into our software.

                To address the other issues.

                Do all the successes use EPN?
                The big earners do yes.
                (i also know there are a few that use it in their own ways to earn BIG, but aren't telling how - be creative)

                Though there are people in the 4 figure range that don't use EPN

                So what does that mean?

                It means that you will do fine without EPN if you are a little tenacious. (though I will admit that fast earnings are not quite as turnkey)

                That all being said (I never quite got this one)
                If someone told me that I could be making 5 figures a month and all I needed was a frickin EPN account

                then I would make DAMN sure that I went out and got some no matter what and not accept defeat under and circumstance. But then again that goes back into the issue I was discussing in my video that got you fired up so much in the first place. (so we come back full circle)


                Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

                2. Release a new/updated/made-over version of the Mage that actually does work.
                Mage works. Mage is updated approximately twice a month with fixes and new features. I dont quite see your point?


                Originally Posted by copywriter View Post

                3. Start a weekly Mage-Only webinar and deal with people's questions live
                We actually have new user welcome webinars now, which we advertise in the forums so older users can come and ask questions as well. If you keep an eye out you can jump on the next one and ask questions.

                Also we answer all questions in detail that we can either on the support forum or support desk with Carol, Robert and Hodge. (yes, our support staff is US+UK and all personally use the software themselves)

                You know this very well as I remember you personally thanking me for the attention I paid to some issues you were having

                We at the Mage community have given you much.

                Like I mentioned in my personal email that you have not responded to, I said that if you focused half as much energy in building your own businesses as complaining about mine, then you would be alot closer to reaching your goals.

                Respectfully
                -Greg
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                • Profile picture of the author Pubster
                  Hello again Greg

                  "If someone told me that I could be making 5 figures a month and all I needed was a frickin EPN account

                  then I would make DAMN sure that I went out and got some no matter what and not accept defeat under and circumstance."

                  Well said Greg, that is exactly what I realized and am doing. Of course we know that EPN is Not a Magic Pill either....but I think along with EPN and some maneuvering it will work with hard work put into it...at least I hope so. If someone else is doing it I can too.....Secrets were made to be purchased...lol
                  Regards,
                  Pubster
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  • Profile picture of the author kevintg1
    Hi Zane

    have got epn ,and thanks for the link

    Kev
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  • Profile picture of the author GingerColeen
    I worked with Mage for about 2 months. In addition to creating some new sites, I "pimped" 4 wordpress blogs I already owned that had been online for 1-3 yrs. Greg told us that he made more on his pimped blogs than the others. One of them was a PR3 and they all got from 40-70 hits a day before I added WP Mage.

    I followed all the rules. I made a little money the first couple of months (not much). Then a couple of weeks ago it dropped off. Yesterday I checked my backlinks with Greg's tool and found that they are no longer anywhere to be found on Google. They have all been sandboxed. I had some great keyword domains too. What a shame! Now my hits are down to 2-3 a day per domain.

    You should also know that these blogs were on different IPs so it wasn't a situation where Google banned all the domains on 1 IP.

    Obviously there are footprints. Greg may not see them but Google does.

    I still have one site that gets good traffic but $10 a month is not the type of money I was looking for and it's getting smaller, not larger!

    I'll move on to something I can control better than this. I don't like to depend on Google anyway so I dropped out before the bottom fell out! I could smell it coming I think!
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  • Profile picture of the author caliviper
    Greg, it has been brought up several times, and it is the one thing keeping me from purchasing -- and probably others too. Can you please comment, Greg?

    1) Does WP Mage leave a footprint as the last poster just mentioned? Another poster said he and others have tried to bring to light the 'footprint' issue in your wpmage forums, but you keep deleting the posts.

    2) If it does leave a footprint, what is causing it, and can it be fixed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      Originally Posted by caliviper View Post

      Greg, it has been brought up several times, and it is the one thing keeping me from purchasing -- and probably others too. Can you please comment, Greg?

      1) Does WP Mage leave a footprint as the last poster just mentioned? Another poster said he and others have tried to bring to light the 'footprint' issue in your wpmage forums, but you keep deleting the posts.

      2) If it does leave a footprint, what is causing it, and can it be fixed?
      Sorry I didnt answer as it has been answered numerous of times and I really dont want to get in back and forth with people in this thread unless they directly ask for my opinion. But since you asked directly...


      Originally Posted by caliviper View Post

      1) Does WP Mage leave a footprint as the last poster just mentioned? Another poster said he and others have tried to bring to light the 'footprint' issue in your wpmage forums, but you keep deleting the posts.
      Keep in mind we have a wildly active forum with over 26,000 posts and hundreds of new posts daily. I really have no idea to the specific situation you are referring to. THough could look it up if you thought it was important enough. I am sure if we did do anything like you are mentioning that there was a good reason as the only reason for our forums is to help our entire user-base succeed.

      But to answer your direct question. WPMAGE installs Wordpress. And it installs by default one of 35 of the most popular Wordpress themes. Meaning that there are tens of thousands of other wordpress users using these exact same themes. Meaning we blend in!

      WPMAGE creates Content and mashes it up completely original depending on what sort of template you create for it. Meaning that after all is said and done you are left with...
      ..
      ..
      ...
      .

      A WORDPRESS SITE.

      No Footprint here.

      ..
      However, since if I dont mention it someone else will (and they always do) is that if for some reason our software is installed incorrectly, the plugin is deactivated or there is a server misconfiguration (noobies dont worry, this only happens if you try to run your own dedicated/VPS server - which is for advanced users) , then Mage Tags will show up in the source code. This is the perceived footprint that people sometimes talk about.

      For correct and attentive usage this is not an issue.




      Originally Posted by caliviper View Post

      2) If it does leave a footprint, what is causing it, and can it be fixed?
      Not relevant as we have already determined that for correct usage there is no footprint.

      let me know if that answers your question

      -Greg
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      • Profile picture of the author wb
        I bought this a month ago and have invested $1500 so far in the membership and domains. I've made just over $2. Everyone says to keep building and give it time.

        My initial impressions:
        - 30 days is nowhere near enough time to evaluate this system.
        - 90% rate of failure is pathetic for something that is advertised as a "system" and costs $1000.
        - owner seems to be receiving commissions from GoDaddy (at least is using affiliate links) so has a vested interest in pushing us to buy as many domains as possible
        - the system that's taught seems to be different than what he uses himself. Training materials allude to his best performers being some sort of forum site, but no demonstration of what they look like or how to replicate those uber performers.
        - rather than producing new training videos or materials to boost the skills of the 90% who are failing or to teach the techniques that are actually producing the big results on his own sites, he instead uses emails and videos to pump more products on us--seolinkvine, outsourcing, etc. Kind of insulting, considering how many people are struggling with what they've already paid alot of money for.


        On a positive note, customer service has been responsive, product updates seem to be relatively frequent, and there's an active member forum.

        I'll give it a little more time.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Originally Posted by wb View Post

          90% rate of failure is pathetic for something that is advertised as a "system" and costs $1000.

          this is not relevant nor correct. The video that you are referring to was a personal development talk on my personal blog that referenced Mage as a real life example.

          if you want to get into Personal Development and talk about the video, then we can, but I dont think this is the thread to do it in. The statement is not specific to my system or any system. (actually specific to all systems)


          Originally Posted by wb View Post


          - rather than producing new training videos or materials to boost the skills of the 90% who are failing or to teach the techniques that are actually producing the big results on his own sites,
          I show you exactly how to replicate my earnings and people do. Get an EPN account, get expired domains or existing sites and put 50-100 EPN listings per page and nothing else

          rinse and repeat

          it works. (I just got a PM yesterday from a user that started in November and followed this, and is due to earn xxK in May from over 300 EPN sites)

          Thats how I do it personally, hard and dirty, (and 1000 objections and questions if you want to go there) so not sutiable for some peoples temperaments, but it works and earns.

          Lots of different ways to Mage.

          Other ways work too and that is why we recommend tools.
          Mage is a toolkit that can do many things.

          Ultimately we are selling software and my training on it is just how I choose to use it. It is much bigger than my thoughts on it. look at the tools and what they do and apply them according to your knowledge.

          To give you example of the scope, here are 4 different user training sites that show different peoples ideas on how to use the software

          http://masterthemage.com/
          http://www.wpmagetips.com
          http://www.magementor.com
          http://www.magetracker.com
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  • Profile picture of the author GingerColeen
    I've spent most of the day (off and on) pondering the mage footprint issue trying to get my head around where the footprints are. I did this primarily because I read Greg's vague response and because I was asked by someone to explain footprints.

    With my technical and marketing background I should have seen this before, but I have a very trusting nature and usually believe people until it's proven to me that I can't. Greg makes it very clear that there are no footprints and knowing how important that is, I thought this guy really knows what he's doing and I trusted him.

    It was really blatant once I found them. So here goes the expose' to the rest of the readership on the mage footprints:

    When Mage creates a new or scheduled post, it doesn't fill it with the actual post content. Instead, it puts very distinct mage tags in the post with information that will allow Mage to pull the content into the page the first time someone displays it in a browser.

    These tags are very mage specific. In fact, they have the word mage all throughout the tags. Ok, so I had that piece of information but how to prove that Google sees them before the content is rendered?

    Simple. Search for the tags in Google! Try it all you mage posters. You're mage tags are indexed throughout the Google search engine and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they now recognize these tags and are deindexing blogs that use them.

    For those of you who don't have the Mage yet, I searched on one of the tags with quotes to get the exact phrase:

    (Removed as a courtesy at Greg's Request)

    and Google returned 235,000 results. So that shows that the tags are seen by Google before the pages are rendered.

    These are not generic tags but, obviously, very specific to mage. And, with all the mage folks getting indexed for the same tags, it's a huge set of footprints.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
      Originally Posted by GingerColeen View Post

      I've spent most of the day (off and on) pondering the mage footprint issue trying to get my head around where the footprints are. I did this primarily because I read Greg's vague response and because I was asked by someone to explain footprints.

      With my technical and marketing background I should have seen this before, but I have a very trusting nature and usually believe people until it's proven to me that I can't. Greg makes it very clear that there are no footprints and knowing how important that is, I thought this guy really knows what he's doing and I trusted him.

      It was really blatant once I found them. So here goes the expose' to the rest of the readership on the mage footprints:

      When Mage creates a new or scheduled post, it doesn't fill it with the actual post content. Instead, it puts very distinct mage tags in the post with information that will allow Mage to pull the content into the page the first time someone displays it in a browser.

      These tags are very mage specific. In fact, they have the word mage all throughout the tags. Ok, so I had that piece of information but how to prove that Google sees them before the content is rendered?

      Simple. Search for the tags in Google! Try it all you mage posters. You're mage tags are indexed throughout the Google search engine and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they now recognize these tags and are deindexing blogs that use them.

      For those of you who don't have the Mage yet, I searched on one of the tags with quotes to get the exact phrase:

      REDACTED.

      and Google returned 235,000 results. So that shows that the tags are seen by Google before the pages are rendered.

      These are not generic tags but, obviously, very specific to mage. And, with all the mage folks getting indexed for the same tags, it's a huge set of footprints.
      Ginger, I actually already answered that exact question before in a previous reply

      "However, since if I dont mention it someone else will (and they always do) is that if for some reason our software is installed incorrectly, the plugin is deactivated or there is a server misconfiguration (noobies dont worry, this only happens if you try to run your own dedicated/VPS server - which is for advanced users) , then Mage Tags will show up in the source code. This is the perceived footprint that people sometimes talk about"

      When you see that, it means that someone has deactivated their plugins or any other of thousand reasons. The only real question you need to answer is it on YOUR site?

      If you need clarification please do though our support desk or fourm.

      And in response to someones earlier comment about a deleted thread on this subject, I just searched our forums and found a monster thread from back in February on it.

      Pleae read the whole thing before you get alarmed as you will see that people go through the natural knee-jerk paranoia and then later in the thread understand what is happening more and settle down
      http://www.wpmage.com/spellbook/circ...start=30#p8060

      you also need to keep in mind if our software is pirated, or the customer requests a refund AND continues to use the software, it is deactivated and all the pirate gets is a bunch of pages with mage tags hence the footprint.

      ADDED NOTE: We deal with these and all questions on our support desk and forums. I suggest you use those for technical questions about WPMAGE instead of the warrior forum as I dont always check here and this is not the place.
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      • Profile picture of the author GingerColeen
        I have removed the tag as a courtesy to Greg but I don't buy his explanation. Just look at the number of instances I found with one tag. There are more tags.

        I'm not trying to get technical support Greg. Just trying to answer some of the questions from my side of the fence. They deserve to see both points of view.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
          Originally Posted by GingerColeen View Post

          I have removed the tag as a courtesy to Greg but I don't buy his explanation. Just look at the number of instances I found with one tag. There are more tags.

          I'm not trying to get technical support Greg. Just trying to answer some of the questions from my side of the fence. They deserve to see both points of view.
          Ginger, I know you mean best... but bear with me here please.

          The simple explanation is that YES there is a footprint, but NO its not on your site

          This "footprint" appears on peoples sites that have either deactivated the plugins, misconfuigured their server or are using a broken/pirated copy

          To prove,

          1 -first make sure you are using the latest version of a CPMAGE installed site without any modifications. (I say this cause there are 1000 aftermarket things people could do to make a footprint of which we have no idea)

          2 - Go to YOUR site and look at a page.

          3 - Hit CTRL+U - this brings up the source code. this is what google sees

          4 - Now hit CTRL + F in the source code and search for mage tags. Do you come up with any results? You should not and if you do, then you should ask us (privately) why it is showing up and we will tell you how to fix.

          I hope you understand that simple 4 point test step.
          Please do so and you will see.

          -Greg
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          • Profile picture of the author ozduc
            I just tried to find the word mage in the source code of one of my sites and it appeared several times in the word "image". That's it No tags showing so if this is all google sees if the site is done correctly then I don't see a footprint problem.
            However after googling the tags as Ginger suggested, a lot of results came up and when I clicked on some of the sites they do not have the posts where they should be but just a bunch of mage tags. So obviously what greg is saying seems to be correct in that if installed and used correctly there is no problem. The problem only occurs if pirated or incorrect installations are used.
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            • Profile picture of the author JBanis
              Im not sure but I can imagine Google might have better technology to discover footprints than just looking for the word Mage etc?

              J
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    Ginger,

    As an outside observer, it seems to me that your logic is wrong.

    You're looking to explain why your sites have disappeared from Google.

    But your research shows that there are many sites STILL IN Google, even though they have an obvious footprint.

    I think you should be looking more at some of the standard reasons why sites 'disappear'. For instance, how quickly did you add pages to your site? Did you suddenly end up with hundreds of pages? What about external links?

    Goggle is certainly on the lookout for sites that are not 'natural'. People have a tendency to use these automatic tools to excess (as I have done myself in the distant past) and then Google finds them.

    Pearson
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