SENUKE vs MAGIC SUBMITTER...thoughts?

Do you have website addreses for these 2 please?

I wanted to chime in that i wrote support and alex responded with a yearly subscription price of $297. this is much cheaper than the 67 per month, and exceptionally cheaper than senuke's best deal. i would HIGHLY recceomend picking up magic submitter if you have the means. the only reason i kept senuke for so long is the speed. however, i am experiencing better indexing with magic and i am thinking now that i will drop senuke and move exclusively to magic. anyone have any issues with magic, please let me know. i have studied the software,; i know how to do everthing on it besides building new services into the software (don't care to do it).

sites:
senuke.com
magicsubmitter.com

hope this helps someone move in the right direction.

DxSEO, in what way? Details please if you wouldn't mind.

In my opinion Magic subimitter is Best than senuke.

Why:

Magic subimitter has more sites in all categories.

And you can add your own sites.

But i still use Senuke and Magic subimitter together,if i need to choose 1,it would be ms.

Which one is easier to implement? It sounds like there both good but which one has less of a learning curve for us busy marketers?

no that's okay the other cool thing about magic is i think they will sell you a year for 297 dollars. that's way cheaper than senuke's best deal. i wrote the owner and said a few things and that is what he responded with. i jumped on it.

Can Magic Submitter multi-threading like SENuke?

magic can do eight threads at once. they may do more in the future. like alex said, you can speed up the process with magic with a good internet connection by setting the delay to "5' instead of ten.
mattj

Hey Matt any thoughts on Nuclear Link Blaster? Or would you stick with the Magic, baby?

The plus with SENUKE is that it's multithreaded, you run that baby on a powerful computer and it makes up for the index rate.

I think that using both once a day to compare isn't fair at all.

Because the plus of SENUKE is that you can use it more times during a day then Magic submitter (just because it's multithreaded)

Both get the job done though.

alas, i decided to keep seunke for one more month lol. i guess i'm just addicted to the speed of the software for certain tasks. but i'm still getting better indexing rates out of magic with the 2.0 wordpress pdf and press releases i submit.

when senuke X Release it will do more than magic submitter, also with magic submitter you still need to pay monthly for buying proxy IP since its using your ISP Ip when do submission

Ok, but it will also be double the price as well. I have tried magic and frankly like it. The price is good as well. Doing more doesn't necessarily make it better.

hi super, they say x will be out before too long. they allready released the beta version to the longest subscribers, so it' shouldn't be too long. although i 'm sure they have bugs to work out.
matt jersan

I just cancel Magic Submitter... nice idea but extremmmmmely slow...

magic is slower, which is why i hang on to senuke lol, however it is very effective. the sites i submit to there, for whatever reason, get indexed much better than senuke with the same principle i follow with senuke. i submit all links to links2rss.com then submit them to the rss sites. much more effective with magic.

hi ruch, i'm curious to hear about the latest seo tool by mystic as well. what kind of SEO success users are experiencing.
mattj

Hey Matt, I have heard some good reviews about the product, I pasted the features it does (it has some additional features coming out such as press release and article submission, I'm not really bothered about the articles as I bought AMR this week, but the press release submission does sound good)

• Creates you author accounts (web 2.0 ) on auto pilot (22+ sites and growing)
• Auto Create 'Random' Open link wheel structures using simple article tags
• Uses either inline article or footer urls tag linking
• Spins and submits your articles and auto links url's
• Auto builds you backlinks from web 2.0 properties
• Auto Social Bookmarks all of your links
• Auto RSS feed submissions for your RSS feeds
• Automatically de-captchas using Death By Captcher or Decaptcher
• Automates the verification of your emails

Matt, I'd be interested to hear your opinion on why using web 2.0 properties is more powerful than say article submission

Hi Mike, do you use SLR for bookmarking, or something external like BMD?

Ruchi

I go with Magic Submitter since its cheaper than senuke. And I think Magic Submitter is fit with my link building style. To be honest, I can't afford $ 127/month only for a tool :p

Can SEnuke and Magic Submitter break captchas or we need to purchase Decaptcher credits? What about proxies???

just download and install the latest version of IE and you should be fine.
MS does support multiple captchas services. for proxy; i use hide my a** proxy service and it works like a champ with senuke and MS.
hope this helps.

matt jersan

SE Nuke works.

I haven't used magic but yeah... =\

Hi,

I am not a big fan of B...Hat but i have added a review in my signature link and i recommend you and all seo fans to check this out.

Still waiting for the seo lr demo soi i can compare both.

I've used SEnuke and am now looking for an alternative because of the pricing. I'm trying out SEO Link Robot at the moment, and it seems like amazing value. You don't get the forum posting, article, or video module, but these modules are being worked on at the moment and it's updated regularly.

It's better laid out and quick to manage, and they had a release today that added two new social network sites making a total of 6 social network sites that SEnuke doesn't have.

The main problem I have is that as far as I can see, you can only use one set of social bookmarking accounts at a time. They recommend you use them for 5-6 weeks then change them. But I'm making hundreds of links a day on multiple projects, so those accounts will be banned very quickly if I try to even add half my links to them!

Did I get this right? Because if there's something I've missed here about SEO Link Robot, I'd like to hear about it. Otherwise, I'm very happy with it so far.

But SEnuke X is coming out, and maybe I'm better off staying with SEnuke or at least SEnuke Lite (niche research and social network site modules only) to avoid the price rise.

I just don't know what to do right now...

I vote for Magic Submitter. Continual improvements, fast support and half the price.

Here's a crucial question noones asked, does MS offer assignable anchor text for last URL and random URL features?

As amazing as SEnuke is, for whatever crazy reason, there's no way to add assignable anchor text for either of these types of links, and so my posts are really slow as I add two tier 1 links into my tier 2 posts.

SEO Link robot have this feature for both type of link, but I'm dropping them, because only being allowed one set of social bookmarks is a truely fatal flaw. It's such a shame, because if they changed it to randomly select them, they'd be nearly as good as SEnuke for a one-time fee.

I hear the one-time fee is changing to a monthly subscription very, very soon btw, so you should try out their software before that happens. If you already own a great social bookmarking program, then you should buy it for the social network, RSS, indexer, and pinger features, because they're planning to add an article and video module soon, and pretty much mirror everything SEnuke does.

I've asked at the user forum. I THINK it does but want to be sure. I'm still learning it and loving it, so hopefully I'll have an answer for you soon.

EDIT: Not yet it doesn't!

Some great thinking going on here. Thank's for that.

I'm using seNuke at the moment. I've been using it for 3 months.

I have to say I really like seNuke. I could spent all day on it, even though I don't fully understand everything I'm doing!

I can't compare the speed to another piece of software.
SeNuke is fast. As for multi browsing, I always have at least 9 separate browsers open when I submit. Apart from social network nuke, where I take it down to 2.

The basics are simple. The thing works really well. The capture is fine. Proxy is excellent. The built in link to the best spinner works well and speeds things up for sure.

The advanced stuff for me is a little bit more difficult to work out. I'm a technophobic-idiot, and there are lots of us.

The negatives for me with seNuke
Out dated training is a problem for me. The creators of seNuke know there stuff. The trouble is with tech-type is they think we can all do as they can!

Their training videos need up dating and better explained.

The price seems high at first.
Although if you compare the results with the price it would cost you to outsource that amount of profile creation, video and article submission, book marking, rss submission and pinging.

Maybe not so expensive.

I'm really thinking about trying magic submitter.
The interface looks better. Keeping control looks simpler. And press release is a very big plus, especially at the price magic is being offered at.

The speed issue people keep mentioning is the sticking point for me with magic submitter.

I'm not looking to own both seNuke and magic submitter like some people.
The idea is to have the best all in one package. Or at least the better of the 2 is the one I want to own!

I think I might take the cheap trial with magic submitter while my Senuke is still active and test them side by side.

I'll be happy to add feed back once I have some data.
Thank you again for the reviews and feed back. It was perfect timing.

John

To someone that knows.

I heard that when submitting articles/post you only see if the article/post was submitted. You can't get the url to this post so it can be pinged, only the url to your ptofile. Is that correct?

You actually do get the URL of the article through the Link Manager. If you add your own sites, there is the "save link" command that you will have to put in there, but all sites that the developer has in there have this command. The link manager works like a charm. I've suggested to him to add the ability to export title, URL and keyword into a spreadsheet for client reporting. He's working on it. I swear Alex doesn't sleep

Hi,

I've been using the Magic Submitter Trial version and feel that it's not what I need in my business model for now. Anyone know how do i cancel my subscription so that they won't charge my credit card automatically?

Regards,
Shafiq

What about SENUKEX vs MS...whole new ball game?

~Dexx

So MS literally does everything SEnuke X can do, only better? Because I was opting to purchase the life time membership of Senuke X until I read this thread... Now I'm really confused any insight guys would be extremely appreciated to help me make up my mind.

With Senuke X you can add any new sites you want now, so the main advantage MS had is gone.

MS is just far, far too slow to be effective for me.

Hmm, that's unfortunate. I can't download SEnuke X at the moment, so was just paraphrasing what I've heard from the reviews.

In which case, I still think the ability to set and forget it, after setting up an entire campaign is of great benefit to people that can then go and work on something else. I hear reports that it requires some maintenance, but only the occasional click, across an entire session involving social network, bookmark, RSS, and the rest. We're not just talking about some pretty tack-on feature here, this could be a huge time saver, and ensure we don't forget various stages of our SEO.

I'll give it a month to play around with the templates before considering MS again. They plan to raise the lifetime subscription to $2,500, which does seem obscene when software such as SEO Link Robot will set you back about $150, one time fee.

*rolls eyes* If you have: Article Marketing Robot, Bookmarking Demon, Sick Submitter, and Scrapebox, that's it I think. With the exception of Sick, there's no monthly fee and ALL of those other tools have schedulers in them. Hmmm. I think I just talked myself into getting Bookmarking Demon. Have everything else. Point is, if you're on a budget, these tools will do you fine as you can add your own sites, etc. And still have enough left over in the kitty to take the family to dinner.

I left SENuke for MagicSubmitter and was happy with it for a while. It is definitely better than the original SENuke in my opinion but recently it has become slower for me and I get a lot of failures. I'm gonna try the new SENuke X, seems faster from what others have said and the diagram is a cool feature.

One thing that sucks with all these platforms is the fact that the customers are paying monthly fees yet the developers do not maintain the sites included within the platform. A lot of those sites go bad after a while, go offline and it never gets updated. Also for both MS and SENuke X, there should be new sites added monthly. They are making enough money to pay someone to monitor these things and keep a fresh list.

I had personally been using SENuke the original version for 2 years and it allowed me to rank top of Google for every launch I have been involved in so far, if you type affiliate promo formula (a product I was an affiliate for in Feb 2011), you will find me top actually dominating Google's first page and it has allowed me to dominate for every launch I have been involved in so far.

I have now updated to SENukeX which is my opinion is revolutinary compared to the original version. Some elements I particularly like is the schedular which allows you to chain your links and schedule when they go out making your campaigns looks much more natural with regards to link building in the search engines. I also love the diagram designer and have even created some really profitable linking campaigns which I share on my site in my Sig below as well as some other new features compared to the old version of SENuke.

All in all, I don;t yet have a complaint with SENukex aparts from a few minor bugs but the producers are alsways very quick to respond to support requests and constantly add updates and fixes almost daily. Anyway just my take on things..
Regards,
Steve.

I have yet to find any software for backlink building that I actually like. Just bought magic and I don't like it.

I've been using SenukeX for a couple weeks now. Here's my opinion:

It's pretty cool, but Unless you use every part of it on a daily basis it is too expensive. I only use the web 2.0 feature. I have other tools like Bookmarking Demon that I think are better for doing specific tasks.

The big selling point is that you can chain all the events together - set and forget, this is nice in theory, but just does not work in my experience, and will probably never will work. There are just too many things that can go wrong (and usually do).

But, like I said, the stuff that does work is pretty cool!

Where can I find the link to buy the MS yearly membership? I don't see that on their site.

wow i haven't looked at this thread in almost 4 months and i'm really pleased with what it has become. i have not checked out senuke x after i had some customer service complaints from using senuke that were never addressed. i would agree that the training with senuke absolutley SUCKED and they didn't show any signs of addressing that issue either. i had nominal results with the original senuke and much better with magic. that is still my oppinion and i don't even know how much senuke x is, nor do i care. all i know is i am friends with areeb on facebook and have b een seeing him posting about errors and problems recently lol...

anyway, i hope this thread has helped some people choose what's right for them. there are those that will tell you that ultimatley manual seo is the way to go, i personally do both and do okay.

happy easter.
mattj

Got some questions:
]With the new SENUKE out is there still a need for Magic submitter?
How much programmer experience do you need?
Is it possible to run it from a laptop or does it take up too much processing power?

DO you have to purchase anything else in conjunction?

Yes there is still a need for MS. I've tried SENuke and prefer MS on the basis of the fact that it is easier to work with and you can add your own sites and services.
You don't need to be a programmer at all, adding and fixing sites is literally point and click.
I've run it from my laptop which is three years old and have not had an issue. The scheduler is a godsend especially since if you suddenly have a crash, it will start from where it left off. No other purchase required, though Dave Carr does sell a couple of sweet add-ons for RSS and Backlink Energizer (which is a wordpress plugin).

Not in my experience. And there are limitations with the diagramming tool. And its $147 a month.

Its true what some have said 'if you know what you are doing this tool is great!'

For the beginner Senuke X is still a bit complex, some areas need to be explained more!

we are using both

i think so far senuke is better than ms

MS is worth it's price more than SENuke.

I've had experience with both of them - and really - they are both great, they just offer advantages in different ways.

I'm suprised more people haven't brought up Magic Submitter's designer and how they have used it themselves. Very handy for some sites out there

Alex, Is the MS beta version free to try? for how long?
I had the 1 version when it cam out a year ago but had problems, I am willing to try it again.

As I understand it you have to be a current customer to use the beta. At least when I tried to use it, it wouldn't let me.

Ok...read this thread completely and still confused if SENukeX is worth staying with or should I just hire Fivvers or move to Magic Submitter.

I have not implemented SENukeX due to the learning curve and been too busy on other projects, but I hear there are limitations to adding sites, etc. in SENukeX?

I will be needing to drive promotions for 8 sites for about 60 days, and then that will scale to 100 sites+ in 90-120 days.

I have a VPS that I can run SENukeX or any SEO tools for that matter....but I don't want to have to become an SENuke Guru and baybsit the tool...when I can outsource or just run a much easier to operate tool like Magic Submitter is being positioned to be.

Knowing where I am and what my operational goals are...can you weigh in with experienced advice?

Thanks in advance!

I know this question doesn't regard Magic Submitter or SENukeX, but has anyone experienced any results with Unique Article Wizard? I'm wondering which article submitter is the best.

I use both, and use them regularly.

But just based on price and ease of use, I would put MS on top.

Cheers

Alexandr

Is there still a yearly price for this?

If so how do I order it that way?

Thanks
Paul

I have had both, but canceled SeNuk X. It is way over priced, and now with the new Magic Submitter update it has a visual campaign designer like SeNuke X plus many more submission sites than SeNuke X.
Magic Submitter support and training is incredible.
Dan

Steelbone: yearly is $474.

Will Magic Submitter post articles into Drupal websites?

Is this standard or is there some "tweaking" required?

Thanks,

Sam

I tried them both and maybe I am stupid ( although I really dont think I am) and can't say I had decent results for my niches.

So, I simply use someone from fiverr for my senukex blasts now for low quality stuff & pay someone from hiring section here for my web 2.0 backlink packages. I get MUCHHHHHHH better results and much LESSSSS time spent...AND less money when it comes to SENukeX.

Again, maybe it was me. But I had very low acceptance rates on both systems. Maybe I tried runs too fast or didnt use proxies or something, I have no idea. But I was spending so much time that I found it better to just outsource for $5 a run on fiverr.

Not really knocking either team because it definitely takes intelligence to create systems like this. But to me it seems the products are maybe rushed and their technology isnt quite ready for mainstream.

Try them both then decide...

I have Traffic Travis but it only allows the tracking of page rank of a site if the pages are in top 100 position. Is there a good software that I can use that is relatively inexpensive that focuses on tracking the rank of the clients website? would also like to be able to print reports to show the client improvements (like a chart)...

Have tried both but I honestly prefer the magic submitter because you get contents index more quickly compared to SENUKE. But then is worth giving but a try to determine which is best for you as done man's meat just might be another man's poison..

To your success

yup. I LOVE the new campaign editor. Makes things much easier. Its faster too. Best of the breed.

I am coming back to Magic Submitter exactly for that reason. The Sockets

Just my opinion but I also thought the support for MS was better.

Yeah, support its pretty bad, because on some cases only Alex can help you, and he is very busy, so yeah, support its pretty bad..

I've never had an issue with support myself. Alex has always been prompt, especially if you put a ticket in.

support was not bad but the was delayed. i do not have any issues till now with there support.

Is the socket update completed for MS? I've used it in October for the last time and approximately 1/3 of the sites were socketed. I wonder if Alex has completed the transition?

D37 a month won't cut it to really learn how to use the software effectively.

i would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread and kept it going. it just showed me that there was a new magic submitter version which i am checking out...NOW! even after a year the poor customer service i had from senuke about a certain issue will not even allow me to check out senuke x. i hear good and bad about them though.

great thread!

Ok, I have just spent the past 3 hours going through youtube vids, review sites - mainly affiliate sites so as far as im concerned I stay away, and the WF. I have always bl manually and my bl plans have been meticulously written out in 200 page notebooks, along with a day by day plan of what is happening on each day. I think i'm ready to move across and try MS after reading the great discussion on the WF, so thanks everyone for the comments and feedback from both sides of the "fence".

Senuke is always best from my experience !! As because i dont have much knowledge on magic submitter..senuke offers me all the work easily !!

Here's the thing with that though: updates. Alex is constantly updating the sites, database, and the way MS works. With the Incansoft bots, updates are infrequent and quite slow. So if that is a priority, MS would be the better choice, even at the higher cost.

Well, it works and works well. Alex is ALWAYS improving it too. Within the next week or so, he's updating the software again to include a reporting tool so that we can show clients what is happening with MS.

magic submitter because you can add your own sites!

Magic Submitter have proxy integration, right?

yes it does warjun.

I just try 4.95USD for Magic Submitter...if ever I do not want to continue, how to cancel the subscription?

Did you actually try it out for the full month? What were you expecting from it?

if ever I do not want to continue...

can I upload my own list of links to bookmark in Magic submitter?

Yes. Look here's an idea: go to magicsubmitter.com and watch the tutorials there. Just do one a day, and you'll find that you're able to use MS to its full potential very quickly.

if ever I do not want to continue, how to cancel the subscription of MAGIC SUBMITTER ?

Elite Article Marketing Tools is your best bet for that. It depends on whether or not you went through 2 Checkout or Paypal. In the case of paypal, you'd just cancel the subscription through your dashboard. In the case of 2 Checkout, you'd email them. Either way, give the program its due first and try it out.

how come someone get the lifetime licenses right now? pls advise.

Elite Marketing Tools is pretty good I have to admit.

Magic submitter is the worst, most poorly made program I've ever used.

Don't like magic submitter either. Not my cup of programming tea.

Atoz, copywritingking, what do you mean?

Is magic submitter allow death by captcha ?

I really like magic submitter. It's easy to use, frequently updated, and support is good. I've used several of these tools, and MS is the one I actually use on a regular basis. Account creation and submission works very well, with a good success rate.

Anyhow, I would get the trial for senuke and MS and check them both out.

I have been using MS from the past few days and to say that I am loving it would be an understatement. It is absolutely fabulous piece of software and I have been creating all sorts of crazy campaigns and running them one by one. My captcha credits are being eaten away in a hurry.

By the way, I have not tested the add sites feature of MS. I would love to do so but am afraid if any coding or such is required to add? What kind of web 2.0 sites can I add? Is it a lengthy procedure to teach the software to register and post to these sites? I can understand adding wordpress blogs can be easy as it requires same mechanism, but am not sure about adding new web 2.0 sites - how will the software post to them successfully unless some coding is done from our side?

Neither one. Both require recurring fees for you to use frequently.

Prefer Incansoft tools and Sentinel Bot.

just something I have noticed, when doing account creation I have a higher success rate when I am not behind a proxy, what I do to create accounts, disable proxy settings, create accounts, reset modem/router, check to see if ip address has changed (this works only if you have a non static ip address/ in the UK) repeat. created 10 accounts using this method with a very high success rate. just testing the posting features

I am searching for a completely automatic or semi-automatic software's for my online blog, I am a blogger with least 4 posts a day and don't have room to do all of connecting operation physically. So surely needed to get help of auto bots to perform jobs without getting blacklisted.

As i realize that it is difficult to accomplish all together from a single software, so can go different makes.

Anybody can help please?

Post threads to Blogger Communities like Triberr, Dosplash etc etc
Posting to Blog search sites and reader sites like bloglovin, technocrati etc etc
Posting blogs to various RSS directories
Posting photos to various photo-sharing sites,
Presentation submission to presentation sharing sites like slide share etc etc
Video submission software for multiple platforms youtube, vimeo etc etc
Search and advise Guest posts, question and answer sites and Commenting on niche
Directory and Article submission
Bookmarking on various sites
Effective Press release distribution
Social media posting with automation up to 48 hours minimum
Any suitable plugins to perform above operations for wordpress.

I use GSA Search Engine Ranker. I run it on a Virtual Private Server (VPS) so I don't use up resources on my local computer,plus with a VPS I can run my GSA campaigns 24/7.