Good post.. looking for reviews and comparisons between these products too. I think what we should be looking for is software that..

- can post at to random sites (not necessarily all that it has on its list)
- use random pre registered user names
- use different IPs
- post to bookmarking sites when a blog post is published

If anyone has bookmarking software that does those, I am first in line.

I would like to know too which bookmarking software or tools is the most efficent...

any suggestions?

I haven't used any bookmarking software yet since I heard the auto thing is not good, can anyone confirm this?
Still sticking to the good old manual submissions.

Yet in this forum I saw many people use bookmarking software and now I'm a bit interested in the software.

Be following this thread for sure.

Just went to the bookmarkingdemon's site, I guess the owner said things right about the auto submission tool.

If you be patient and submit your links no more than 2-4 a day, then the tool is safe to use, but if you bombard the social bookmarking sites with this tool - which can be easily done - then you can get penalized.

I believe a tool, just like any, is supposed to make your life better since the automation it provides can save you some time, time that you can use for other things. Abusing a tool is what gets you in trouble. All good things turn bad when abused.

Can't say I'm impressed with BD at present, though it does manage to get some done.

What isn't the software's fault but is a reason enough to steer clear is the lack of noticable traffic increase regardless of bookmarking.

Then again I guess some must come down to how you word your descriptions etc. For me it's been a flop but I won't ask for a refund as it does what it says, albeit with a high failure rate. If you manually use the big important sites then it's an easy way of hitting a lot of the meaningless little ones that wouldn't be worth doing manually.

I'm still waiting for the update for "pligg" sites, which may improve things.

For me the real disappointment is the proxy server thing, ie the ability to use different IPs, which was a major reason I bought the thing. Then right there in the instructions it says that's not recommeded. ??

I presume you can use proxy servers manually, have never tried, but rather liked the idea of the sw hopping from one to another. However it doesn't supply any, find any or recommend using any, so..


B.

The problem with socialbot is they don't update those scuttle site regularly. Therefore, a lot of those in the list are not working and you cannot edit or add new sites

What I would really love to know is if it's able to Submit to sites that have captchas such as Digg? Are they really able to get around them or you have type it as the submissions are going on?

I prefer bookmarking my links manually, it takes a few minutes but always got good results with it. Automated tools never able bookmark on all of the sites they claim, and it looks spammy to bookmarking sites if you overuse the software.

Best way for me is still manual social bookmarking, I can decide all the bookmarking sites that I need, change them every time, vote for the links, interact with other members (real members), etc.

People often forget that Social bookmarking sites are social, some sites appreciate if you interact with other members like stumbleupon or propeller.
There are also groups that you can join, join the relevant groups and get your links noticeable by even larger audience.

"Also, I tend to bookmark sites other then my sites so it looks more natural."

I haven't figured out how to do this yet with BD, at least not without sending my original links again...



B.

Bookmarking Demon is great and the updates and support are amazing!

Been using it since beta...it really is a great product.

i am using demon ever since ita launch and its effective as the words speak

I have just started bookmarking, and I am doing it manually. I tried automated bookmarking over the past week, but I have gotten zero traffic and zero backlinks for my efforts, so I am trying it manually now to see if I get better results.

I have both BMD and Socialbot. I prefer BMD, just more features and more sites. It also has the account creation feature.

Not to mention that I created a whole other set of accounts for Socialbot and logged back in a few days later to find that they had all disappeared.

Hey all, there is a THIRD option that I feel due to the diversity, it superior to BMD (which I have 4.0) Have not used social bot.

What other tools do you use for automatic link building programs?

The support at Bookmarking Demon is great, that has been very helpful. Quick responses on all support tickets. Bookmarking Demon allows you to add all the extra scuttle, scuttle plus and pligg sites you can find! That is one of the best features about Bookmarking Demon 4. Buy BMD4 now and get free lifetime upgrades. BMD5 is already in the works...not sure what the new price will be.

Social Bot i Cr@p if you ask me. Program from 2006 that is as anti-user fiendly, anti-logical and as anti-vista as they come. Interface architecture is pre- 2005 with non-editable lists once they are created. If you don´t have the manual forget it. And even if you have it, forget it.

Functionality is very So-So. If you want it, there is a campaign ongoing and it IS cheap but after wasting half a day with it, i will not be using mine.

Try Socialmarker and Onlywire No drip feed automation but at least they bookmark at muiltiple sites. Wondering why noone creates an alternative to senuke at a more comfortable price - would sell by the bucketloads.

Social bot is great...no real problems for me. I don't know much about bookmarking demon though

I highly do not suggest bookmarking demon, as i own it I personally find it ineffective, maybe I'm doing something wrong i don't know, but I find it a waste

BMD easy, however you could also go with something like SE Nuke as it covers other web2 link building stuff, but BMD is good value for money.

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Guys, don't know how BMD works, I only have been using Social Bot and SENuke, for a while.

SENuke is what it is... expensive monthly fee... for the same amount of money I'd rather use manual bookmarking with VA's from India, etc...

Social Bot, at it's price especially, is a handy tool that does only what it says it does.
It's not a miracle! It's a tool.

I have separated my sites into different categories:
Captcha's and non-Captcha's
I start bookmarking on the first ones... it takes abt 5 mins?
Then I let the software work on auto-pilot for the other ones.
BTW, you CAN add scuttle sites in SB if you want to.

It is not intended to bring you traffic directly. That is simply not what social bookmarking does, if used this way.
If you're a member of a group on say... Digg, Stumbleupon, etc...
and kindly ask your friends to help your link by voting, digging, etc... you will notice some traffic while it lasts (usually a few hours-days, depending on how hot your topic is)

The real traffic comes from good SERP's derived from good on-page and off-page SEO.
Carefully research the market/niche.
Choose some good not so competitive KW's and try to rank well for those.

If you do it this way, bookmarking (either manually, or with softwares like SB or any other, as a matter of fact) will help getting backlinks.
These will carry with them more or less juice (PR) according to the sites they come from.
Sometimes, fewer more powerful links weigh FAR more than hundredths ones from un-noticeable sites...

In any case, I was able to rank high for my KW's whenever I did my research right previous to the bookmarkings.

One thing though... I use Social Bot only once per day and bookmark only one of my own links, plus a few of my friend's...
I do this as a sort of bookmarking swap.

If any of you are interested... PM me.

In the end... for it's price I'd say Social Bot is a bargain, really!

Steve
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Drunken Greek's support is ok, BTW...

Have you tried SocialMarker.com? it's free and does everything you could need from a bookmarking tool.

I've used it for a while and highly recommend it.

I always get a kick out of the example often used for why sudden large numbers of backlinks won't result in a Google penalty: Drudge's breaking of the big Clinton-Lewinsky scandal.

Look Ma: millions of sudden backlinks, no Google penalty!

What the story-retellers leave out (and probably don't even know) is that Drudge broke the story on January 17, 1998.

Google was incorporated on September 4, 1998. LOL

Using Bookmarking software as part of a wider SEO strategy to boost SERPs IMHO is better than a sudden [and unnatural looking] boost of traffic.

Someone said "With great power comes great responsibility", Having access to powerful tools means one may have to exercise the power responsibly and gently so long term success is guaranteed.........

Existing users of BMD and Socialbot:

What are the pros and cons of BMD and Socialbot?

Thanks in advance

I love the penalty thing with millions of bookmarks. Anyone one remember the baby commercials when they were all roller skating? Guess how many backlinks that video site got in a week...........millions!

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Okay... as I'm writing this my antiquated laptop is painstakingly downloading Bookmarking Demon 5, meanwhile some overly-worked computer chip in my bank's server is religiously processing my Paypal payment of the princely some of $147... The download has (at an audacious speed of 11.1 KBS..) a tantalising 8 minutes and 47 seconds to go...

Any last minute Social Bot bombardiers out there to jump to the rescue??

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BMD is heard to be good but i see no discount on the forum so that we could try out this software.

Certainly if BMD gave a discount coupon fresh purchases might go in there.

Cheers

Bookmarking Demon is best but I prefer Manually Submission of Bookmarks ..

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I vote totally for Bookmarking Daemon. I didn't buy it yet, but will do soon. I watched all the videos and it looks pretty nice. Everything included and even camouflage techniques with RSS which is really smart, so you don't have to waste time to find relative posts to camouflage your promotion.

I didn't see the Howie's option, but $1000 a year, please. It's little too much. And I didn't get what is better with Howie's software than BMD.

My vote goes for BMD u can add more sites and it is constantly updating and if u want have 50% discount ask me how

Bookmarking software is great if you can afford it. But I still believe in personal touch where you can submit manually but as they said it takes a lot of time but I think it is worth it. I'm nothing against social bookmarking software because it makes your life easier but I still believe in manual labor and hard work eventhough I am lazy.

I really LOVED Demon - but then it quit working after about three weeks, which was disappointing. At first it started with my memberships - I had to reload them every time I opened up the software. Then it wouldn't post my entries on social sites. I learned to copy everything into a text file and reload the software every time I opened it. Finally it wouldn't work at all. I would click Submit - and in a few seconds it would indicate that it was finished ... but nothing was posted. Too bad. The developer has had at least one update since I quit using it, though, so maybe it's improved.

Personally I have really benefited from BMD, the only challenge I've had from time to time is that it freezes up and I have to start it over.

I was curious as to how it compares to Social Bot...but not curious enough to buy it. It seems it would be overkill.

One thing to ALWAYS look for: Money back guarantee. If a product does not offer your money back after you buy the product then you know something is not right.

I like to buy products from clickbank if possible because of the 60 days you have to try the product out. The money back guarantee should tell which product to buy.

There isn't any easy solution to social bookmarking.

People who are complaining about not getting any traffic after using BD...maybe your websites aren't what people want to see? If you don't have an a good looking or interesting site, of course you won't get any good traffic. That's not the softwares fault.

Also if your backlinks aren't being indexed by Google or the other search engines, you won't see any improvements on your link quantity and therefore, no improvements in traffic.

You need to make sure the pages you are submitting your links to are being pinged. I believe SEO Nuke does this but I can't justify the high subscription fee. For that kind of money, you could just hire an outsourcer to do all this work manually which if you find the right person (and I emphasize the word if), is a much better option.

Problem with us all is we look for the easy solution to all these time consuming tasks involved with SEO and marketing, and then become disillusioned when these solutions don't produce the results we expect. I believe some of these software solutions over promise to draw in customers which is a shame.

Bottom line is... all this works takes time. You can either do it yourself or pay someone else to do it for you. Catch 22.

Can someone please post a fresh, usable list for BDM? I only have 8 sites on it.

Many thanks

In My Experience I Have Found Link Dozer To Be The Best, I Have BD But I Later Discover Link Dozer And I Love It.

the new socialbot 4.3 is great over 1000 sites build in.
great one price.
fully automated except the capcha but not to many social web2 sites use this feature so its very fast.
i use this software to make my back-links stronger

Well I got sucked into the Easter sale and bought SocialBot - waste of money. The automation it provides is minimal, I have spent more time trying to coax it to work than simply going to the sites myself and creating the link manually. I have checked the links it claimed to create and they wern't added. All in all a waste of time, I would ask for a refund - but guess what, they dont offer refunds -

Why is no one using Bookmark Wiz?

I tried socialbot and am so far unimpressed - last time i buy software without a moneyback guarantee!

I am no toying between Bookmarking Demon & Bookmarkwiz

I'm not sure if one of the products has 100% of what I want...I like the "ping" on bookmarkwiz!

- Upload list of urls & bookmark X urls per session (ideally using the meta data rather than having to manually ad) is one feature I think is missing.

- regular updates as the social bookmarking sites are constantly changing & success rate drops without software updates

Does anyone have a "comparison" for each of these products? Or success rate figures?

thanks

Have you updated to SocialBot 4.3 ?

It came out March 8 2010.... you should have received an email with a link to the update zip file.

Works great for me on Vista

Dave

good view this ,where can I purchase the BD?

i have both of the software, but i must say that BMD is better then Social Bot, as you know BMD more expensive then Social Bot that's why you get a better software then social bot.

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i think BMD is very good.It is very effective in proctecting your ip address.

I'd love to be able to recommend SocialBot, but unfortunately cannot.

I reported a technical problem on 22nd April and was told that an upgrade would solve it, and that would be received by the end of April.

The upgrade never came, so I chased it on May 19th and was told that it would be released on 23rd May.

The upgrade never came, so I chased it on May 26th, and was told that I would have it on 27th.

The upgrade still hasn't come.

It may be cheap software, but even cheap is too expensive for something that doesn't work and where the Support team can let a customer's technical problem carry on for over a month, keeping promising that the solution is coming but not actually delivering it.

This was a great thread to read. As an SEO professional of many years, the first answer is always manually. Life is best manual. Just like cooking food. You can microwave food, but is mostly better when manually cooked.

Having said that, I will say that a few posters speak wisely when they suggest 'moderate" use of the tools. They are designed to make life easier, not replace you as a person.

I have found that even with outsourcing bookmark links that do get created, they eventually slide off the map. So, when building links, it's better to focus on places: directories, bookmark sites, web pages that will last longer. Otherwise, you're just replacing dead ones later....

Spiderhouse, Bookmarking Demon has a great ping function. After you bookmark, all the info is preloaded. You just select proxies to be used and hit the start ping button, then let it run in the background. Gotta love that!

Edwin is constantly upgrading Bookmarking Demon, and nonworking sites are removed regularly.

Bookmarking demon is the way to go, social bot is cheaper.. but eventually you will want to go with BMD

I've bought both Social Bot and Bookmarking Demon in 2010 (don't remember exactly when). I've also used Social Bookmarks Demon. Of the 3 I liked Social Bookmarks Demon the best. At least until recently... SBD is currently completely worthless as I get repeated license server errors that won't let me create accounts or post bookmarks. And SBD support has done nothing about it since August. They don't even answer my Tickets anymore. But that's off topic...

Social Bot seemed like such a pain to use once I installed it. I like everything else I've bought from IncanSoft. It was cheap and I just gave up on it.

I have some autoblogs that I wanted to test Bookmarking Demon out on. I found thousands of URLs in the sitemaps to bookmark. (I bookmark all the posts because if I were bookmarking for my own reference it would be to individual pages more often than the TLD.) Bookmarking Demon had almost all the features I wanted. However, the big drawback for me was that it was Windows software that required my manual input and then weeks of continuous running in the background.

That said, I like these features about BD:
*CAPTCHA solving
*Proxy Use
*Bookmarking Site Accounts Management
*Automatically answered confirmation emails for me - but only for the sites it came with not sites I added
*And it was multithreaded - there's a lot of junk out there that should be but isn't (one of my biggest gripes about SBD prior my current issues was its poor coding - lack of multithreading and keeping a MySQL connection open for 45 minutes while it posted bookmarks)

However, I eventually chose SBD because it was web based. In other words I could run from my hosted servers. I could run it from any Linux box using TOR (free proxies that aren't always recognized as proxies). And I could run it using a CRON job in Linux so that new URLs were added constantly and new URLs were bookmarked constantly.

For BD the fatal flaw was that it was Windows software that I couldn't set on autopilot and forget about it.

Automated bookmarking has been good for a couple of my sites. However, it requires a lot of accounts - I was posting about 300 bookmarks a day using btwn 50-100 accounts with each bookmarking service. I figure an average of 6 bookmarks a day coming from different IPs was good enough to evade most suspicion.

One note, I used SBD with several sites and only a couple benefitted from it. My conclusion was that I had picked the wrong keywords for the other sites - too competitive or not enough interest. I use Market Samurai for my keyword research and occasionally go back and revisit the keywords I've chosen on topics I think really should have been winners.

Bookmarks can bring in some traffic but I found auto-posting to Twitter (before they required OAUTH) brought in a lot more traffic than Bookmarks.

Finally, from an SEO standpoint I view bookmarks as short-lived but useful backlinks to the site. And as such they aren't worth much unless they can be automated (IMHO). In order to have longlasting staying power on the SERPs I usually do things like Directory submission, RSS Feed promotion, Article Marketing (just a handful of articles), and occasionally some of the Brute Force tools like EVOII or Social Poster.

That's my 2 cents but I'm not exactly making a full time living from IM yet either.

I'm not knocking Incansoft products, but SocialBot you need to AVOID!

I own it, and it doesn't work very well at all.

The most annoying thing I find about is that the auto sign-up feature fails for virtually every single site (you get a couple of pligg sites that sign up ok, but thats it), and without checking manually you just can't be certain that your bookmarks have been added.

I recently bought BMD5, and so far it's much easier to use and is clearly a superior program, even though I'm still trying to get used to everything it does.

SocialBot is really cheap, but I feel there is actually a reason for that!

BTW, once again, not a knock on Incansoft, I heard RSSBot is really good, but SocialBot...forget about it!

I know this is about SB and BMD, but I saw someone mention BookmarkWiz (BW).

I got a refund on BookmarkWiz several months ago.

The company told me that BW was not designed to spam bookmarking sites. You enter one URL, and it gets bookmarked. And yes, you can manually check and you will find it.

It has no provision to spider your site and submit all the pages.

From what I remember the bookmark tags could only be one word. You could have site on red dog training. Your keywords would be 3 separate words, "red, dog, training". Now it has been several months and I could be mixing my products, but I believe this was one of my big pet peaves with the software.

I used BW without proxies and got my IP banned with one of the sites. LOL My fault 100%.

BW did work and was very easy to use. I will say that the success rate on account creation was not as good as I would have liked. I understand that none of these products will have 100% success rate.

I have been debating on BMD for a while now. I probably should just pull the trigger and get it.

And before someone suggests it. I own SocialBot. I have logged into the SB accounts manually and was unable to find the bookmarks. I did not check them all.

Steve

Both are in a different league actually. Just look at the price difference.

Used Social Bot before and it seems to do the job most of the times. I say most because there are some instances that it just hangs and you have to redo your bookmarking.

Haven't tried BMD but with the rave reviews, I'm thinking it should be worth the price, considering it isn't monthly like the other products.

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The main advantage : It works.

Social Bot errors on more sites than it can submit to successfully, it is never updated, you can't add your own sites, etc

You get what you pay for, Big Mikes software is very low quality compared to BMD, there is a reason you can get it for $7.95 on sale.

Another option is Magic Submitter.

Well I use them both and they both work well. Bookmarking Demon does so much more on automation, however you really have to reset everything every now and then and use CCleaner to make sure you have a clean slate.
All these programs start off great and the the success rate drops dramatically. I just clean my machine with ccleaner and then the effectiveness goes back up.
Clearly Bookmarking Demon is better oonce you start using it.

I own Bookmarking Demon and I use to use all the time but I've found it's become less effective as alot of bookmarking sites are junk plus Google don't value backlinks from Bookmarking sites like they use to 5 years ago.

...At least it gets updated though.

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I bought SocialBot by Incansoft and it's garbage. I can't even get support for it. Waste of money. I am looking to add BMD to the arsenal, though.

I've used both and still use SBD. Tried Social Bot and just found it too clunky and hard to get around. Love SBD, particularly love the fact that you can:

• Easily segment your bookmarking sites based on captcha codes
• Use proxies
• Ease of use
• Add your own ping servers
• Use captcha breakers

Again I can't stress enough the overall ease of use of the program-barely had to read the instructions.

Of course, there is the price issue to contend with. At $27 Social Bot is super cheap compared to BMD's $147 price tag. But if you're like me and you absolutely know that you won't use something that's difficult to use, then just consider the 147 a worthy investment.

If socialbot was ever updated, it could be good. Otherwise not worth the money right now.

Well I must agree this thread is an information Landmine. I am planning to buy a social bookmarking software to begin with. I think with the amount of information available here that supports BMD, I must go with BMD>

The worst thing in BMD is they charge $4/1000 captcha with a low success rate of submission.

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Anyone has any idea about how BD fares against socialmonkee? Or are they so different tht I am being stupid asking this question

Bookmarking demon is good for social bookmarking. I used that before and its good I think.

hello, you don't need to use any software for this.there is a free great website to bookmark automatically your post to many social media like Delicious, Pinboard, Diigo, historious, Instapaper, Pocket (Read It Later). but before you use this website you have to send your rss feed to your twitter then from there to this site which will send your posts and links to the social media I mentioned above. The site is Packrati.us - Bookmark your Twitter links

if you want I can make a video to show you how to send rss feeds automatically to twitter or to other social media.

I've been 5 years running SEO business and to be honest, to not list any consequences of using these tools, I'll recommend you Manual social bookmarking, it has an immediate effect on search engine ranking