VPS Hosting recommendations wanted...

12 years ago

I am looking at similar options Martin. I am seeing the same things you are, there are just so many options, really not convinced of what to do at this stage. I´m not in any hurry but I want to make sure my next upgrade is certainly good enough for the job.

Many years ago I had a shared hosting package which I upgraded to VPS. There were numerous issues at one stage with my shared server locking - The host told me I had to upgrade to a VPS, because the locking was effecting other sites on the shared server. I thought it would be much better anyway to have a "powerful VPS", so I did just upgrade, them "forcing me" didn´t bother me too much at the time because I felt it was time to get some more juice.

The upshot of it was, it was 24.99 per month, compared to the 4$ per month unlimited shared hosting I had - The VPS I upgraded to had 256mb RAM (512 burstable) 30gb disc and 500gb bandwidth, dont remember the processor. My upgrade happiness lasted less than a day - It was slower than the shared server I moved from and was locking up more than the shared was. It really did annoy me at the time, of course the host didn´t care because I had moved from a few dollars a month package to 25$ and it was only my own sites going down now - My WP sites and my phpbb Forum took a long time to load and timed out quite often. When I tried to trouble shoot it (and finally complained) about it to the host then recommended I moved to a higher version of VPS with them (which was 50$ at the time, you can imagine what I thought this time!

I still don´t understand how the VPS I upgraded to was less powerful than the shared hosting I moved from, but it was clearly the case.

So, I am wary of the move. Will watch this thread with interest.

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customs

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ScottieDog

I still don´t understand how the VPS I upgraded to was less powerful than the shared hosting I moved from, but it was clearly the case.

So, I am wary of the move. Will watch this thread with interest.

It happens when the VPS is misconfigured.

I still don't get it why people buy VPS if they can use a fast and good shared hosting?

I'm with stablehost shared (litespeed - faster than apache) and have no problem to handle 50,000 visitors a day (from my various businesses, 20 domains total). And I pay something like $8 per month (with some lifetime coupon).

In the past I even used hostgator's baby plan. It was ok to 15,000 visitors a day, after that they freaked out.

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ScottieDog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by customs

It happens when the VPS is misconfigured.

This is what I thought the case must be, thank-you for confirming.

Originally Posted by customs

I still don't get it why people buy VPS if they can use a fast and good shared hosting?

I took the advice of my host. HAHA. I won´t be doing that again.

I must say, from what I am reading here on this board, it would seem that I won´t be needing a VPS for some time to come, if ever. Some members have hundred plus sites running on shared, and I will not likely have that many sites. Even then, rather than go for VPS it would seem an idea to just get another shared server on a different IP and split the sites up.

Originally Posted by customs

I'm with stablehost shared (litespeed - faster than apache) and have no problem to handle 50,000 visitors a day (from my various businesses, 20 domains total). And I pay something like $8 per month (with some lifetime coupon).

In the past I even used hostgator's baby plan. It was ok to 15,000 visitors a day, after that they freaked out.

How do I find out if I have litespeed and not apache? I am sure I saw it say litespeed in the cPanel somewhere, but just looked and couldn´t see anything. 50k visitors per day, that´s great - sort of confirms further that I just do not need a VPS. Even with the 15k at HostGator, thats some traffic, there´s no way I have ever seen that much traffic.

Have bookmarked Stablehost. Thanks for your reply.

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Kingfish85 12 years ago

Originally Posted by ScottieDog

I still don´t understand how the VPS I upgraded to was less powerful than the shared hosting I moved from, but it was clearly the case.

Because as VPS does not necessarily have more power than a shared environment. you are paying for root access & isolation.

It's not "misconfigured".

In most cases shared hosting with a web host that doesn't overload their servers is going to outperform most VPS's.

Remember, with a VPS running cPanel, you want "at least" 1GB of RAM. If you're set on using a VPS, I'd recommend one with RAID 10 storage on the host node and a LiteSpeed License.

If you're not sure how to configure, maintain or secure a server, you will need a managed solution.
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Martin Avis

12 years ago

Thanks to the mods for moving this to the right forum - I realised after I posted it that it should have been here.

The reason for changing to a VPS service is that I have started using arpReach, a self-hosted autoresponder, and most shared hosting either limit the size of list you can run or the number of emails you can send per hour. On Hostgator it is a maximum list size of 5000 and a maximum of 500 emails per hour. VPS hosting, as far as I understand it, doesn't tend to have such limits.

Beyond the confusion of wildly differing Ram/Bandwidth/Disk Space is the added confusion of managed versus unmanaged, Windows versus Linux and a variety of other choices and options that I really don't understand the significance of - and can find no explanation of on any of the hosting compainies websites.

Googling hasn't helped either because all I have found is a whole bunch of really badly written articles, mostly in broken English or obviously spun, on affiliate sites.

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Shaun OReilly 12 years ago

I use and recommend LiquidWeb for VPS servers.

Their support is fantastic and I've had no issues with site
speed or downtime (unlike when I was with HostGator).

If you're using a self-hosted autoresponder, then you want
to have a VPS at a minimum with your own IP address. This
will remove your threshold on sending limits as well as letting
you build the sending reputation of your server.

(With a shared hosting set-up, they limit the amount of e-mails
you can send per hour, and your deliverability depends upon
the activity of other users in your shared server).

I went for a Linux server.

Have a live chat with the guys and gals at LiquidWeb (the live
chat is in the top right hand corner) and hopefully, they'll be
able to answer your specific questions:

http://www.liquidweb.com/ (no affil.)

Dedicated to mutual success,

Shaun
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ScottieDog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin.Avis

Thanks to the mods for moving this to the right forum - I realised after I posted it that it should have been here.

The reason for changing to a VPS service is that I have started using arpReach, a self-hosted autoresponder, and most shared hosting either limit the size of list you can run or the number of emails you can send per hour. On Hostgator it is a maximum list size of 5000 and a maximum of 500 emails per hour. VPS hosting, as far as I understand it, doesn't tend to have such limits.

Beyond the confusion of wildly differing Ram/Bandwidth/Disk Space is the added confusion of managed versus unmanaged, Windows versus Linux and a variety of other choices and options that I really don't understand the significance of - and can find no explanation of on any of the hosting compainies websites.

Googling hasn't helped either because all I have found is a whole bunch of really badly written articles, mostly in broken English or obviously spun, on affiliate sites.

Well, I don´t have the email requirement so it seems another reason to prove that I do not require a VPS. Wish that old host hadn´t stuck the idea in my mind now.

Thanks to all for the feedback.

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supreme

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin.Avis

The reason for changing to a VPS service is that I have started using arpReach, a self-hosted autoresponder, and most shared hosting either limit the size of list you can run or the number of emails you can send per hour. On Hostgator it is a maximum list size of 5000 and a maximum of 500 emails per hour. VPS hosting, as far as I understand it, doesn't tend to have such limits.

I have used a VPS for email marketing - currently with interspire. . my list is 8k single optin.. but the openrates are way low.. despite using multiple alternating IP's requesting users to whitelist..
in three months am closing the VPS and am gradually moving the subs to Aweber..
Aweber delivery rate is spot on

2nd experience.. am on a VPS server with 1.5GB burstable RAM so i did a product launch that required licensing.. guess what.. the RAM was exhausted i had to move the site to a shared hosting in the middle of launch..

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zcrafts

12 years ago

I am not sure if hostgator service after the sale, as reviews the service is really get worst on hostgator is what I hear from my friend. If you are looking for US Web hosting, I do have VPS with WebHost US they do offer managed services till date support has been fantastic its really worth to try them.

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ScottieDog

12 years ago

Originally Posted by zcrafts

I am not sure if hostgator service after the sale, as reviews the service is really get worst on hostgator is what I hear from my friend. If you are looking for US Web hosting, I do have VPS with WebHost US they do offer managed services till date support has been fantastic its really worth to try them.

Getting even more companies to choose from now.

Think from my point of view I'm going to stick with shared for the time being - i'm not convinced I need vps at the moment. Be interested to hear what you decide though Martin, and how that goes for you.

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Vilvop 12 years ago

Attractive VPS deals can be got from marblehost company.
Servers are stable and prices are affordable.
Check out their plans.
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Weblover50

12 years ago

WiredTree is a great option for VPS. Hostgator is better known as a reasonably good, cheap shared host. WiredTree is specialist VPS host and only other recommendation I have is Liquidweb, which is also really good.

One reason for the difference in price is the difference in server managment. Self managed servers are a lot cheaper, so if you are skilled enough and have time, you can save by getting a self managed server. For others, server management is a must.

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Joshster

12 years ago

Thanks for the tip DrunkenMonkey...

I ended up picking Hostnine for my VPS as I need SSD drives for speed (for running CPV and tracking most likely)

They have a super deal running until years end on: Xen VPS, 2GB Ram, 30GB SSD with Raid-50, fully managed w CPanel for $45 (Fully Managed with CPanel starting at $35 all in)

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InquisitiveMarketer

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joshster

Thanks for the tip DrunkenMonkey...

I ended up picking Hostnine for my VPS as I need SSD drives for speed (for running CPV and tracking most likely)

They have a super deal running until years end on: Xen VPS, 2GB Ram, 30GB SSD with Raid-50, fully managed w CPanel for $45 (Fully Managed with CPanel starting at $35 all in)

Looks GOOD. Do all their plans have SSD drives?

Do they offer litespeed?

Did you check user feedback here/elsewhwere before signing up?

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JonKragh 12 years ago

If you signup/qualify for Microsft Bizspark: www.microsoft.com/bizspark/ it includes free Windows Azure hosting.

Azure has been great for me and offers a lot of additional uptime benefits (e.g. have two virtual machines, which will be brought down at different times, etc).

I use this setup to run two Windows Server 2012 virtual machines with 2GB RAM for free.

HTH,
Jon
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