Profit Builder

I bought it and my first impressions are good. I think dev option is good value for the money.

It would be great if it could integrate custom post types - From my tests it is not possible.

I pass on OTOs. Not impressed.

@BeechHill,
Im curious Could you disclose it? (by pm maybe...)

As RussGu3 pointed out - Shane Melaugh's Thrive Content Builder does something similar to Profit Builder (thanks Russ - I actually already bought TCB but hadn't checked out the new features!)

Although I don't know him personally, I can say that after following his work for several years Shane seems to be a completely trustworthy and ethical marketer (wow - I know! ) He's not going to leave anyone high and dry or release anything that won't be supported long term.

You can see a video of the features his plugin shares with Profit Builder .

Also, I read an interesting "review" of Profit Builder by a professional coder that points out a huge flaw with the system which you can read here: WP Profit Builder | Brett Rutecky

Hope that helps!

I was just about to click the buy button then I remembered reading a review from another warrior:

WP Profit Builder | Brett Rutecky

There's no affiliate link in the review itself for the product in question so I hope this doesn't get deleted. I've sent several support tickets to my webhosts to see if upgrading to PHP 5 will mess up my other plugins.

I'm Shane's business partner, we co-founded Thrive together - I saw a few posts about our product in this thread and wanted to share some up-to-date info about Thrive Content Builder.

Perhaps you're basing your analysis on your perceptions about what our product does rather than having actually used it. Alternatively, if you have used it, then there's a misunderstanding about how our plugin works, so I'll clarify:

Our editor doesn't use shortcodes or generate them. It's compatible with shortcodes, so you can use them in the editor, but we don't generate shortcodes because that requires extra interactions with the server which slows down the editing process massively.

Given that our whole mantra is to provide a streamlined, lightweight and minimal abstraction editing experience, shortcodes aren't feasible and so we don't use them.


Our elements list for all themes are as follows: text, Wordpress shortcode preview, image, button, icon, credit cards, custom html, custom css, content container, content reveal, star rating, columns, content boxes, twitter quote share, styled lists, dividers, testimonials, calls to action, guarantee boxes, pricing tables, horizontal tabs, vertical tabs, image feature grid, icon feature grid, content toggle, tables, google map embed, countdown timer, responsive video, table of contents generator and optin forms

Due for release: insert widget, post gallery (including custom content types), icon content boxes.

What elements would you like to see added to the plugin? I'd be really interested to know which elements you think are missing for market research purposes.


Food for thought - thanks for your view. It's always interesting to see how people perceive your product from the marketing. As you're already a customer, I would be interested to hear your thoughts in our forum once you've tried the product.


My parting thought for anyone who's looking to purchase any kind of content builder is to take into consideration that there are two main components at play:-

1. The ability to create the exact type of page or piece of content that you need in the fastest time possible.

2. The way in which the content is served in the front end of the web site and the footprint attached to that.

Part 2 is often overlooked but is a massive factor in making sure your web site doesn't suffer.

I've used both (Profit Builder and Thrive). As far as flexibility goes, my first impression is that you can build anything from the header right on down to the footer with Profit Builder. During my tests, however, I can see that the sheer volume of options that are available in Profit builder will take some time to implement. If you use a Profit Builder template and just change the text, that's the fastest way I've found so far to get the job done. Otherwise, you're playing with buttons for hours on end.

On the other side of the coin, the two step opt-in process Shane demonstrated on the new version of Thrive seems to be where things are headed as far as listbuilding goes. His plugin seems to be just as solid as Profit Builder with "less distractions" as far as the layout goes.

If someone had a gun to your head and you had to build the whole site from start to finish, though, the OTO Profitbuilder launchpad or PaperTemplate would problem get you to the finish line first.

Does anyone know if ProfitBuilder works well with BlueHost??

I am facing SEVERE Issues with the PB Theme on iPage. It displays an error something @FontFace and back-end Control panel of the theme doesn't load properly.

Based on recent comments about products by the seller, my expectations for this product were not very high. I have two products ready to launch, but have struggled with both Authority Pro 3 (compatibility with plugins and theme) and InstaBuilder (just not doing what I need).

So I bought Profit Builder yesterday figuring that if it was a lemon, I would eventually get my money back via refund.

Using an existing template, within two hours, I had an entire sales page built. This is a marketing guru level sales page with all the bells and whistles. Absolutely blown away so far. My ONLY complaint thus far is that when choosing an icon, the image in the selection window does not match the icon that actually gets put into the page. So, if using the icon feature within a sales page, you literally have to select through the list to find the one you want. Hopefully this well get fixed soon.

Today, I am very pleased with this product. Based on reputation, I do have some long term concerns about updates and support, so I am still wary about promoting the product.

If the product is maintained with decent support, it could be a winner. Heck, if I get my two products launched successfully with this plugin, I will have gotten my moneys worth.

I did not purchase any OTO's, and am using the PB plugin on an existing theme with many other plugins including a membership site without any problems.

So far I'm enjoying working with it!

I think it's a great product and the price is too low for that

Marian

AUKev, many thanks for testing this on GR -- it's very much appreciated.

Yes. They have a limited demo version. Try it. It is great.

Yes, Thrive Content Builder has a one-time fee. I don't know the answer to your second question.

No doubt. Sounds a bit crazy maybe, but I wish he had included some kind of recurring payment option - for new monthly templates, for example - instead of having everything free for life for the one time payment. Sellers who have a recurring plan set up tend to provide much better support and it gives them incentive to provide frequent improvement updates.

Shane Melaugh with his Thrive Content Builder does a yearly recurring option for support, but that's all.

Sean's track record is disturbing and makes me nervous about buying any product he releases...yet, here I go again, buying something else from him.

Maybe, but I've been waiting a couple of days now for a response for one issue I'm having. Not a huge problem, but you'd think as much money as this guy makes, he'd have a better support system set up. Instead, he decided long ago (apparently) to skimp on that.

I made a decision late last year to go all in with Thrive Themes. Which includes Thrive Leads, Landing Pages and Content Builder. I have not regretted the choice. Everything is there to build, deploy, WP websites and capture customer leads.

The reasons for my decision are pretty simple.

1) Get off the treadmill of the next best thing and concentrate on well supported reliable tools.

2) Shane and company have really stepped up their game in quality of product and support. Answers are given in minutes usually, not days, on the support forum.

3) I don't get bombarded by nonsense affiliate offers unrelated to why I was doing business with them in the first place. Just the opposite, emails consist of informative ways to further my business and how to use their products effectively. I don't feel like I'm just on somebodies mailing list because I once purchased something and now I'm gullible enough to accept anything that comes to my inbox from them. While they move on to the next hot idea to sell me.

4) Updates and improvements are non-stop with Thrive Themes.

5) Thrive Themes is a real business that concentrates on a core mission with a clear focus on trend setting software that they developed. They are all in on what they do best.

The last point is how I will gauge any future vendor and purchase.

ProfitBuilder customer service sucks!
I think Sean is lying when he says that he has hired more people for CS

Ofcourse YOU have to modify the themes with content as you see fit, - duh!
Shorten the text length and use the screen simulator button (top right of screen) to see how it looks on iPad, mobile etc, them adjust your text size, simple really

Lee

Thanks Joan,

I did that but it still comes up saying "unknown type of video. Check your video link"

I put in the url then I did the space bar and then the backspace. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. It's driving me crazy.

-Alice

Okay, he's got the first update, but I still can't get the video inserted.

Well actually I'm Paul, Shane's business partner - so yes I'm with Thrive.

This is a result of a poorly executed license authentication setup. Normally, there should be a grace period built into the process. So, if the authentication licensing server is down you still have a period of days in which to use the product fully functional until it locks you up. This gives the developer time to get their service backup and online.

Any plugin that requires you to enter a license key will call home for verification. The scheme isn't unique to PB. The problem is how PB has implemented it. Sean also, seems to be relying on too many vital customer services on one server. When the server is offline his whole network goes down including support.

A lesson to marketers, keep your offers on one server and your support on another. That way if one or the other goes down, you always have a way of publicly addressing the issue.

Videos I have loaded up to Amazon S3.

Thank you Gary, I didn't know about that but probably should have.

Sorry, I haven't gotten far enough to answer your question.

Yep! His reputation is not good specially after launches.

Rapid Mailer also had this kind of issues but I guess everything is resolved now (or not?!).

I already tried Thrive. It is another level of support, community, tutorials and so on. But I really like the PB system. It is a shame that doesn't work properly (yet).

Yeah, of course - we are working on a library of templates at the moment, the first batch due for release at the end of next week.

We're really taking a long time over these templates to make sure that they're primed for conversions. This means paying attention to the finer details above and beyond just making an attractive design.

It means not just providing a template, but also sample sales copy that you can quickly modify to get your product up and selling as soon as possible.

With this in mind, we won't rush into pushing out batches and batches of templates in the next few weeks. We'd rather launch 10 templates or so at a time, but really spend time on them and make them perfect.

So you can expect a steady stream of templates over the coming months rather than 50 templates immediately next week.

They have a 30 day money back guarantee so you can try it out for yourself.

1- Ok, I agree with that.

2- ... thanks

3- ... thanks

4- Not yet. I've just bought it.

5- I'm trying to build a page with a full width row (wrapper) with a dark background. Inside that row I want a ~960 width container with two columns (video + optin). Those columns should no have any padding or margin between them.

Something like this:

http://www.sitescompletos.com/v3/asdf/

6- Until now couldn't find a way to add events to text elements styled list elements.
I understand we can insert those text elements inside a content box and then add the event though. But you are right I still don't know how to use everything

Look... I'm not trying to promote PB or Thrive. I bought both and as a not talented designer both tools will help me a lot. Well... Thrive is giving more hope though... thanks to your feedback and help in the members area.

Yes it works but when i want a totally blankpage, i have no option for this how can i manage this. PB is giving a free theme for this purpose in which u have controls to switch off headers, footers, sidebars and etc.

May be I am doing mistake can u guide me if i want totally blank page or post for designing a sales page landing page or optin page, what steps should i take.

I jumped in this thread because people were talking about the Content Builder with incorrect information. Ever since then I've been responding directly to questions that people have had about the product.

Undoubtedly you'll have noticed that none of the product / Sean bashing has come from me - I've only been addressing questions about my own product.

Sorry about your bad experience with our support - Was this a while ago or fairly recently?

I messed around for 3 days and in the end I moved to thrive. It may not have the bells and whistles of PB but it works. Getting a good price as an early adopter doesn't cover 24 hours of messing around. Still waiting on a response to a 4 day old ticket.
If I don't refund I may have another look in a couple of weeks.
I'd set the memory to 128mb in the php.ini - that didn't work. I'll try your wp-config solution next time. Thanks

Do you think the price will go up? These type of marketers always use scarcity and then the price remains the same making us ...

With Profit Builder you can switch between the PB and WP editor. If you are editing content using PB then there is the option to type your content right into the PB editor or open the WP editor.

You need to remember that PB uses short codes so if you remove the plugin the content will still be there but the layout formating will go south and the html will still have all the shortcode in it.

Funny you mention this - this exact feature is in testing ready for release on Friday.

Ok. I though you had to insert keywords an then it would pull some articles from the web. My mistake then.

The easiest way I found to save timeduring setup is to install a LAMP server in loalhost (I use AMPPS similar to softwculous - it is free), then I add all my premium plugins, themes, and plugins from WP repository, including duplicator.

I create several different installs (AMPPS has a clone feature which is great) and then create different packages with duplicator.

When I have to deploy a WP installation, I just choose one duplicator package and that is it. 5 minutes max I my setup is online.

Thank for your reply. I think I will not buy it anymore. Lot's of complains... Even though the plugin is cheaper than Optimize Press it does not worth the risk. OP is a much more solid plugin.

Thanks for your reply!

Thanks...that is one example that illustrates how important a member forum is...so that one can find instant solutions previously covered, rather than submitting more support tickets and hoping for a reply.

I just checked on my host's member forum...there was one support request submitted TODAY that had the exact same thing happened to them (on another plugin)...quoting the same older version; the support person suggested to "log into your cpanel, go to PHP Version Manager, choose the folder you want to switch the php version for, and then select the version of PHP that you want to use." - but before I do anything stupid, I added my question there why the 5.3xx version shows up in cpanel, in the first place. Very confusing..

Actually, when 5 months from now comes, support will be really good and Profit Builder will be close to perfect. That is Sean's typical time-frame for getting everything rock solid. It would be nice if he could get in the habit of doing it faster, but that's how things are with him.

It's a great product. His best. I've been using it so much recently in fact that I deleted Optimize Press so I could use Profit Builder on those domains instead.

And now I have the opinion that not only is it better than OP2, but it is better than Thrive Themes as well. I can get things done with Profit Builder that would take much longer with the others, and the end look and result is just awesome with PB...very high impact.

Nothing else like it. Product Of The Year, imo.

(And if you look at my earlier posts, I was hesitant to buy it, ragged on Sean Donahoe quite a bit, and had a much lower opinion of this - but when proven wrong, I'll admit it, and I do admit being wrong about this product initially.)