Warriors Help Needed Please!!!!!!

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Alright Warriors

I need a little bit of help from you good people

At the moment I am in the process of creating a new product where I show you step by step how to successfully launch a product from stratch up until the day you launch the product on to the market, and then beyond..

I am just trying to gather some feedback at the moment from yourselves..

1) How many people would be interested in this information?

2) What would you personally like to be seen covered in this product.. (This can cover anything you want as long as it has got to do with product creation, product launches)

3) Would you still minding reading an ebook.. Or a VIDEO series a must?

I will keep you posted on this forumn to how go.. And any JVs welcome to..

This package will not included a resale rights.. However when I get done which might take me a week, a month or longer to do, I will put it onto clickbank and you will get a comission for everyone that sells through your link

The reason I am not included resale rights with this product.. Because it will be my first one and I'l dont want to devalue it..

Your help would be most appericated

Thanks for reading warriors!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Abul-Hussain
    I have a copy of Product Launch Formula, is your course going to be more comprehensive than that?

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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by Abul-Hussain View Post

      I have a copy of Product Launch Formula, is your course going to be more comprehensive than that?

      Abul
      How much did you spend on it please??
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      • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
        Byron,

        Despite the "punched in the gut" feeling you may be getting as you read these responses, people really ARE trying to help you. They're trying to show you why it might not be a good idea to have your first product be a product about launching products. How can you teach something you've never done... not even once?

        Ah ha -- research, right? You'll research the topic and write a killer ebook based on your research. And yet...

        Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

        How much did you spend on it please??
        .... Here you've demonstrated that you won't go to Google for five minutes to learn more about PLF, which is the most well-known product in this niche.

        Can you see why folks are scratching their heads?
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        • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
          Originally Posted by R Hagel View Post

          Byron,

          Despite the "punched in the gut" feeling you may be getting as you read these responses, people really ARE trying to help you. They're trying to show you why it might not be a good idea to have your first product be a product about launching products. How can you teach something you've never done... not even once?

          Ah ha -- research, right? You'll research the topic and write a killer ebook based on your research. And yet...



          .... Here you've demonstrated that you won't go to Google for five minutes to learn more about PLF, which is the most well-known product in this niche.

          Can you see why folks are scratching their heads?
          Hang just a minute..

          Where did I say that I would not go to google and search for PLF? Just because I asked the price of it? I asked them to see if they knew what they were talking about.. And no one answered back with how much you have to spend just to get PLF...

          Which it might be the most brilliant product out their. But for the price tag it is too pricey for most people on the Internet to date
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
    So let me get this straight...

    Your first product is going to be a product teaching people how to launch a product?

    NEXT!
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

      So let me get this straight...

      Your first product is going to be a product teaching people how to launch a product?

      NEXT!
      Kyle I know the way forward is to create my own product.. And I am trying to working out which product to create
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  • Hmmm. I think you made a couple of mistakes here. 1st, there are probably at least 10-15 Warriors who have this thread bookmarked to see the responses. You know why? So they can create a product based on the answers and advice of the posters. Same as you, right?

    2nd. There is a better way to get info like this. You could search the forum for "launch" in thread titles only, and look through those threads to get your info.

    Also, use scribd to see if you can see some table of contents of other product launch ebooks...same with Amazon.com

    This is a good strategy of getting info, but dont be so specific. You should have instead said you were launching a product, but had some problems figuring out the launch thing. (That isnt a lie.) Then say you were wondering what obstacles others came across when launching, or thinking about launching a product. Then, no one would know you were writing a guide on the subject.

    Come back here to offer some free copies for review.
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by Charles Montgomery View Post

      Hmmm. I think you made a couple of mistakes here. 1st, there are probably at least 10-15 Warriors who have this thread bookmarked to see the responses. You know why? So they can create a product based on the answers and advice of the posters. Same as you, right?

      2nd. There is a better way to get info like this. You could search the forum for "launch" in thread titles only, and look through those threads to get your info.

      Also, use scribd to see if you can see some table of contents of other product launch ebooks...same with Amazon.com

      This is a good strategy of getting info, but dont be so specific. You should have instead said you were launching a product, but had some problems figuring out the launch thing. (That isnt a lie.) Then say you were wondering what obstacles others came across when launching, or thinking about launching a product. Then, no one would know you were writing a guide on the subject.

      Come back here to offer some free copies for review.
      Ahh right
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruddy
    Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

    Alright Warriors

    I need a little bit of help from you good people

    At the moment I am in the process of creating a new product where I show you step by step how to successfully launch a product from stratch up until the day you launch the product on to the market, and then beyond..

    I am just trying to gather some feedback at the moment from yourselves..

    1) How many people would be interested in this information?

    2) What would you personally like to be seen covered in this product.. (This can cover anything you want as long as it has got to do with product creation, product launches)

    3) Would you still minding reading an ebook.. Or a VIDEO series a must?

    I will keep you posted on this forumn to how go.. And any JVs welcome to..

    This package will not included a resale rights.. However when I get done which might take me a week, a month or longer to do, I will put it onto clickbank and you will get a comission for everyone that sells through your link

    The reason I am not included resale rights with this product.. Because it will be my first one and I'l dont want to devalue it..

    Your help would be most appericated

    Thanks for reading warriors!!!
    I would like to see how good you are compared to Launch Formula
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  • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
    Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

    At the moment I am in the process of creating a new product where I show you step by step how to successfully launch a product from stratch up until the day you launch the product on to the market, and then beyond..

    The reason I am not included resale rights with this product.. Because it will be my first one and I'l dont want to devalue it.
    Hi Byron,

    Your first product and it's about Product Launches...

    So that begs the question "How useful is this going to be?"

    As the saying goes..."Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment."

    What are you going to be selling here? Experience?

    Or its' precursor

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  • Profile picture of the author Randy Bheites
    Oy. :rolleyes:

    (1) successfully create and launch a product.
    (2) make some money with that product you launched.
    (3) create and sell a product based on your personal hard-won experience in creating and launching a successful product.

    See the sequence of steps there? First (1) then (2), then (3). Do not go straight to (3), merrily skipping everything else and hoping people in the forum will help you fill in all the blanks.

    Oh, and stop using umpteen exclamation points when one at most will do. It's juvenile and annoying.

    What Kyle said. Next.
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  • Profile picture of the author morry
    Am I right in thinking this will be a poor mans version of Product Launch Formula that you'll sell at Clickbank? And can you see why people might think it's a bit weird that your first ever product is teaching people how to launch products?

    One of the reasons Frank Kern did well with Mass Control was because he had an awesome track record of doing huge launches. Why should we listen to you when we could listen to Frank or Jeff?

    Sean
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      2 things...


      1) I must have missed where he said this was his "first" product. All I saw was that he's creating a "new" product.

      2) Insinuating that an unproven and unmade product is worthy of comparison to PLF is a giant slap in the face to Jeff Walker.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
        Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

        1) I must have missed where he said this was his "first" product.
        You did.

        Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

        The reason I am not included resale rights with this product.. Because it will be my first one and I'l dont want to devalue it..
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        • Profile picture of the author Lance K
          Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

          You did.



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          Ah yes, I did.

          That makes mentioning PLF in the same breath even worse.
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  • Profile picture of the author girlshrink
    Am I Missing Something?
    If we all did or didn't create products based on what is already out in the marketplace, there would be plenty of us working at Starbucks. He doesn't need to outsell the PLF, he just needs to sell to a portion of that audience that PLF didn't resonate with. Or couldn't afford it. Or missed it entirely. Or never even heard of PLF. It's done everyday. And done well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
      Originally Posted by girlshrink View Post

      Am I Missing Something?
      If we all did or didn't create products based on what is already out in the marketplace, there would be plenty of us working at Starbucks. He doesn't need to outsell the PLF, he just needs to sell to a portion of that audience that PLF didn't resonate with. Or couldn't afford it. Or missed it entirely. Or never even heard of PLF. It's done everyday. And done well.
      Yes you are missing something.

      The point is if you haven't done something before you shouldn't be teaching it.

      It's one of the core problems with the IM market today -- the blind leading the blind.
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  • Profile picture of the author dave830
    Byron,

    You're thinking huge, and to do it right will take a ton of time, energy and $. A mistake I've made before. Consider focusing and mastering smaller steps of the big picture.
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    I don't have anything to offer, but have a great day anyway!

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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by dave147 View Post

      I recommend you add master resale rights to your product - you won't devalue it
      With Master Resale Rights, you can set in the terms and conditions that you dont want the product to be sold for less than $17 upwards.. But people dont really listen to that
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  • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
    wow just woke up today and say 18 messages on the subject already

    Firslty if we are going to talk about the experience side of things.. Then I would say how can anyone write a product? What I mean is someone who has basic knowledge in things, is not allowed to write a product? Do you think all the big gurus out there were experts in the field overnight?? No!

    I have basic knowledge in other stuff but you are telling me that I am not allowed to create a product?? Well if that was the case no one would do it then....


    And regarding Product Launch Formula.. First question how much is it??
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    • Profile picture of the author Killer Joe
      Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

      Firslty if we are going to talk about the experience side of things.. Then I would say how can anyone write a product? What I mean is someone who has basic knowledge in things, is not allowed to write a product? Do you think all the big gurus out there were experts in the field overnight?? No!

      And regarding Product Launch Formula.. First question how much is it??
      Byron,

      Anybody is allowed to write any product they want. So they do.

      In fact, the crap products out-number the good ones by a substantial margin.

      I would suggest you research a little history on Jeff Walker. It's obvious from your postings you have NO idea on why that guy came out with PLF. Plus it's a facinating story, so you'll enjoy the task.

      Btw, making your first product about product launches will put you into the 'chicken or egg mode' more times than you can imagine.

      In order to write about the proccess you will have had to go through it a few time just to get a grip on some of the variables. Of course since you haven't gone through it you'll have no experience to guide you.

      That's a recipe for disaster. Your product would be so full of holes that your reputation would suffer tremendously.

      What I'm getting at here is that the subject you picked can't be faked. Why not pick something you've been able to accomplish over and over again and teach that. That's how the big boys started out. They became known for 'doing it', not for 'faking it'.

      This would be a very good time for some serious self examination on why you are even trying to make money with your own product. Perhaps IM in general. I say that because reading your posts shows a complete lack of understanding on how things work.

      You can overcome that, but you can't do it by continuing to believe your own bulls#!t. You need a deeper understanding of what actually produces results that are worth working for.

      Now, I don't mean any of that in a bad way, I'm just calling it like I see it. Perhaps you're just around the corner from a major Ah-Ha moment that will prove to be a watershed in your learning curve. Let's hope so.

      Bottom line...people create products because they understand the proccess so well they can teach it. Find your proccess and teach it. Remember, it doesn't have to be a product in the IM niche, it could be anything you know well.

      I'm coming out with a product launch in the Digital Photography niche in two weeks. I'm sure you have niches you know a lot about and could concentrate your efforts into creating a product for those folks. And then a follow-up product. Rinse and repeat.

      Then you'll have the basis to write your product launch guide around.

      It's horse first, and then the cart.

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      • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
        Originally Posted by Killer Joe View Post

        Byron,

        Anybody is allowed to write any product they want. So they do.

        In fact, the crap products out-number the good ones by a substantial margin.

        I would suggest you research a little history on Jeff Walker. It's obvious from your postings you have NO idea on why that guy came out with PLF. Plus it's a facinating story, so you'll enjoy the task.

        Btw, making your first product about product launches will put you into the 'chicken or egg mode' more times than you can imagine.

        In order to write about the proccess you will have had to go through it a few time just to get a grip on some of the variables. Of course since you haven't gone through it you'll have no experience to guide you.

        That's a recipe for disaster. Your product would be so full of holes that your reputation would suffer tremendously.

        What I'm getting at here is that the subject you picked can't be faked. Why not pick something you've been able to accomplish over and over again and teach that. That's how the big boys started out. They became known for 'doing it', not for 'faking it'.

        This would be a very good time for some serious self examination on why you are even trying to make money with your own product. Perhaps IM in general. I say that because reading your posts shows a complete lack of understanding on how things work.

        You can overcome that, but you can't do it by continuing to believe your own bulls#!t. You need a deeper understanding of what actually produces results that are worth working for.

        Now, I don't mean any of that in a bad way, I'm just calling it like I see it. Perhaps you're just around the corner from a major Ah-Ha moment that will prove to be a watershed in your learning curve. Let's hope so.

        Bottom line...people create products because they understand the proccess so well they can teach it. Find your proccess and teach it. Remember, it doesn't have to be a product in the IM niche, it could be anything you know well.

        I'm coming out with a product launch in the Digital Photography niche in two weeks. I'm sure you have niches you know a lot about and could concentrate your efforts into creating a product for those folks. And then a follow-up product. Rinse and repeat.

        Then you'll have the basis to write your product launch guide around.

        It's horse first, and then the cart.

        KJ

        Killer Joe

        There is one problem to what you have just all said

        Which is that I am not an expert anything. I have other limited knowledge on other things.. That doesnt make me an expert.. Just because I can create blog extc...

        Killer Joe check out my other post to get more information on what I am talking about please Then we can carry on some more

        Thanks for your time
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  • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
    Here's a solution for you Byron that's worked for others.

    Why don't you interview experts on whatever niche you do finally
    decide on and then let those interviews be your product?

    This way you're doing a service to your customers because you
    will actually be providing expert content they can actually use

    ...based on experience. And you really should NOT create it in
    the product launch niche because you haven't launched
    enough products in order to provide any value for those
    truly searching for expert content on how to do it.

    So your customers win because they get some useful value from experts.
    You win because you finally got your own product out there.
    And the experts win because they get some more exposure
    for their products on top of whatever you pay them.

    There are plenty of details to work out with that, but that's sort of a nutshell
    to start from and I'm sure other warriors know of some good examples
    of that very process and success stories of those who did it
    to help guide you in the right direction.
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by DougBarger View Post

      Here's a solution for you Byron that's worked for others.

      Why don't you interview experts on whatever niche you do finally
      decide on and then let those interviews be your product.

      This way you're doing a service to your customers because you
      will actually be providing expert content they can actually use
      based on experience. And you really should NOT create it in
      the product launch niche because you haven't launched
      enough products in order to provide any value for
      those truly searching for expert content on how to do it.

      So your customers win because they get some useful value from experts.
      You win because you finally got your own product out there.
      And the experts win because they get some more exposure
      for their products on top of whatever you pay them.

      There are plenty of details to work out with that, but that's sort of a nutshell
      to start from and I'm sure other warriors know of some good examples of that
      to help guide you in the right direction.
      Doug

      The problem that Il find with that idea "getting an interview with gurus" is why should they wanna talk to me? really? again I am just an unknown person on the net..
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  • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
    Byron, that's only a problem for you if you let yourself stray off the solution side of things.

    See, it looks like your current thought process is going something along the lines of

    "I can't do this because ______ (problem here)."

    Or "Can I do this even though _____ (problem here)?"

    Instead of thinking like that, if you're serious about wanting to get it done,
    here's how you should approach it:

    "What can I offer these experts in order for them to want to let me interview them for my new product?"

    _______ (answer/successful solution here)


    Again, it's something that's been done numerous times by people who had no experience.
    It worked for them and if you at least see what they did and then apply it,
    there's a much greater probability it will work for you too than if you ask the
    self-defeating questions and feed on them instead.

    So find out what they offered the experts to get them to do it
    and there you go, problem solved.

    Consider the story of Tellman Knudson.

    He's a multi-millionaire and got his start that exact same way.

    Guess how big his list was? A big fat goose egg. That's right, zero.

    Guess what his area of expertise is today? If you guessed list building, you're right.

    And is he faking it? Nope. He's got thousands upon thousands of subscribers and buyers
    on lists in various niches and helps others with their list building too.

    Byron, guess how he got his start?

    He interviewed experts on list building and then offered it as a product.

    So if your question (or the only remaining stumbling block remaining for you mentally)
    is what to offer the experts in return for the interviews and promotion,

    Then it's time to turn the stumbling block keeping you from your goal
    into the very stepping stone to get there.

    If you do some research on him and his story,
    you'll see he even tells exactly what he offered
    all the experts to do the interviews
    and how they even agreed to promote the product
    after he finished all the interviews.

    And they did.

    It was a hit and today he's a multimillionaire owner
    of a company that helps others build their lists!

    Hope that helps.

    Oh and he didn't have money, his computer was an old one that made noises
    and he didn't have any experience or connections either.

    So as you can see, any excuse or stumbling block that you can come up with,
    someone else has already experienced it and successfully overcome it.

    Can you do the same?

    It's up to you and no one else.
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