How I make $4000 a Month - You can do it too...

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I was looking at a couple of Forums today and keep reading about affilate programs,SEO,Youtube - you know, all that stuff - fess up, how many of you are making a living off that method? Feel free to tell me Damn few I know for sure. Working hard for a few dollars is not the way to go. I have another option for anyone with a bit of smarts to consider.

I know one thing - you need to sell things - not buy things to make money online.

So that's what I do - I sell stuff -

It took time and energy to learn - there is no instant cash machine. If your lazy or want instant riches with zero effort good luck to you...

You have to build a list first off - that's the key.

Then you have to learn traffic generation. That's the water that flows the income to you.

You need to have products to offer. Otherwise how will you make money?

BUT HERE IS THE MAIN THING I WANT TO CONVEY!

Do you have a skill? A talent? A training?



Can you fish?
Can you cook?
Can you carve wood?
Can you identify birds?
Can you fix cars?
Do you know herbs?
Do you know beer making?
Do you dance well?
Do you play the guitar?
Do you know acupressure?


Start a site talking about it - make a forum on it - go to other similar forums and offer help, get known tyhere as an expert - put a link to your forum in your signature. You will be surprised to see the result - always offer help and support to people. It will always come back to you. People will come and start believing in your expertise.

They will WANT you to teach them!

Make a course of what you know - I am telling you people want to know it!

Write the course! Write 12 months of it - one lesson at a time. It's easier than it sounds. When I was young my Dad would carry in wood for the furnace (I am Canadian so it's not as odd as it sounds haha) and I asked him "Dad how can you carry in a whole cord of wood (look it up lol) He said " I don't carry in a whole cord of wood - I carry in one stick of wood at a time." So do one step at a time. Write one small lesson at a time... make a plan - write it down and give it a shot. You have little to lose and a lot to gain. (There are other ways too - PLR - Fiverr - a host of options)

Charge $400 or more for it. At the end give a certificate of completion.

I do just this everyday and make $4000 a month - you can too!

Just start - make a simple site with a forum on it today.

You might think I am kidding but I am not!

This is a goldmine if you take action. And it's much quicker than you think. In a month you will be rolling!

Fooling around with $7 dollar products will never make you secure financially. That's the fact.

I hope a few of you think about this!

Regards
Phil Eugene
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  • Profile picture of the author mzonas
    I have a skill in SEO, I am selling my services through various platforms, I am thinking to start teaching SEO as well. I could create something like SEO 101, do you really think people would buy it for $197? I think that there is a lot of stuff online for free ...

    But then again, I might just give it a shot
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    • Profile picture of the author seofreetips
      Originally Posted by mzonas View Post

      I have a skill in SEO, I am selling my services through various platforms, I am thinking to start teaching SEO as well. I could create something like SEO 101, do you really think people would buy it for $197? I think that there is a lot of stuff online for free ...

      But then again, I might just give it a shot
      Competition is everywhere mate. You need to do some different to come out from rush.
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    • Profile picture of the author writeaway
      Originally Posted by mzonas View Post

      I have a skill in SEO, I am selling my services through various platforms, I am thinking to start teaching SEO as well. I could create something like SEO 101, do you really think people would buy it for $197? I think that there is a lot of stuff online for free ...

      But then again, I might just give it a shot
      Brian Dean has built a MASSIVE INCOME based on your set of circumstances. He knew SEO and he resolved to teach others. If he can do it, you can do it too

      You just need case studies and you need to build a distribution network for your content.

      The good news is that this doesn't have to cost much money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by mzonas View Post

      I have a skill in SEO, I am selling my services through various platforms, I am thinking to start teaching SEO as well. I could create something like SEO 101, do you really think people would buy it for $197? I think that there is a lot of stuff online for free ...
      About three years back that was in fact my price for a SEO course teaching people how to build PBNs. I sold hundreds without doing an official launch. it was easily the highest pay per hour of anything I have ever done.

      I sometimes look back and wish I had done nothing else (I probably would have had 15+ courses out there making money while I slept) but i was also doing service work which never paid as high per hour and you just can't control outcomes of like you can a training course. You take 40-80 hours to create course and every time it sells theres no added hours to put in (ok well maybe a few more questions to answer). The payback per hour just keeps increasing until the course is out of date (which will happen and allow you to redo and resell again if its a technical changing subject).

      As for the people wondering if people will pay for a hobby. Do you know how much guys pay for spoilers for their car? I know people with $200 a month cable bills who hardly watch television and they pay it month after month without blinking.

      Plus there is the monthly subscription model if you prefer. $29 a month is about $360 a year - just make sure you drip feed or better.

      Phil's point on building communities is spot on as well

      A) if you can see a community forming or already formed around the general niche you train in then you probably have a winner

      B) it feeds directly into one of the most powerful but seldom well used traffic sources of the 21st century. Selling a product to facebook and twitter users is what plenty of people say doesn't work. They say that because instead of taking a community approach they were trying to crash a social event pushing a product which never goes over well at parties either. People pick up clients at parties all the time but the good ones don't do it by whipping out sales material. they build relationships and trust so when the party contact wants what they offer its their phone they ring. Social networks work the same way just with potentially millions of people.
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      • Profile picture of the author multimastery
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        About three years back that was in fact my price for a SEO course teaching people how to build PBNs. I sold hundreds without doing an official launch. it was easily the highest pay per hour of anything I have ever done.

        I sometimes look back and wish I had done nothing else (I probably would have had 15+ courses out there making money while I slept) but i was also doing service work which never paid as high per hour and you just can't control outcomes of like you can a training course. You take 40-80 hours to create course and every time it sells theres no added hours to put in (ok well maybe a few more questions to answer). The payback per hour just keeps increasing until the course is out of date (which will happen and allow you to redo and resell again if its a technical changing subject).

        As for the people wondering if people will pay for a hobby. Do you know how much guys pay for spoilers for their car? I know people with $200 a month cable bills who hardly watch television and they pay it month after month without blinking.

        Plus there is the monthly subscription model if you prefer. $29 a month is about $360 a year - just make sure you drip feed or better.

        Phil's point on building communities is spot on as well

        A) if you can see a community forming or already formed around the general niche you train in then you probably have a winner

        B) it feeds directly into one of the most powerful but seldom well used traffic sources of the 21st century. Selling a product to facebook and twitter users is what plenty of people say doesn't work. They say that because instead of taking a community approach they were trying to crash a social event pushing a product which never goes over well at parties either. People pick up clients at parties all the time but the good ones don't do it by whipping out sales material. they build relationships and trust so when the party contact wants what they offer its their phone they ring. Social networks work the same way just with potentially millions of people.
        This is a great post and you make some great analogies on it. Especially the fact that many people just blindly pay $200 on a cable bill single every month without even blinking an eye (and even if they do blink they STILL pay it lol). And do they really need it? Nope! The strategies of contained in this thread are really fundamental and basic human nature. People buy from people (or sources) that they know and trust. And if you come to be recognized as that trusted source, then you will have no problem making sales. The friction comes when you're try to make "quick hit" sales. Yeah that might get you a few bucks here & there, and yeah you made a sale, but that's not the same as creating a customer. And in order to build a strong business, you must create customers or you will always be that web junkie looking for that next "quick hit" to pay his bills.
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    • Profile picture of the author Russelgs
      Actually Earning 4k month for a beginner is so hard. But any one tries hard with his soul it can be possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
      Originally Posted by mzonas View Post

      do you really think people would buy it for $197? I think that there is a lot of stuff online for free....
      That's the problem and primarily the opportunity for online educators. There is too much for free. There is so damned much it is overwhelming. People pay for knowledge, sure, but mostly they pay for direction and clarity. That's where you come in. As an online educator, you deliver exactly the information they need, in the exact order and time they need it.

      There's a reason online courses are growing so fast. Part of it is format. You can have videos, printed text, images, and then be interactive, Very cool, but it's the ability to provide the perfect combination of knowledge, direction, and clarity that you're really selling. Think about that when you make your course and marketing for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
    Yes absolutely - $197 is too low a price. Offer a longer term course - deliver it over a period of months.

    I want to add something here - the key is building up a trust and rapport with your customers - just selling a course will get you a few sales but for a more longterm business you need to do something similar to what I outlined above. A site with a forum about SEO where you are the expert. It will grow - everybody is interested in this - and you can offer courses. One a smaller one for $197 - an advanced course for $400 - like that - don't be afraid to ask for it - if I said to you I could teach you how to drive great traffic to your site for life and only at a cost of $400 for a 6 months course wouldn't you consider it?`
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    • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
      Another idea - an advanced course that would turn the students into TEACHERS so they could, down the road, sell their own knowledge in a similar way. Like a MASTER CLASS
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

        Another idea - an advanced course that would turn the students into TEACHERS so they could, down the road, sell their own knowledge in a similar way. Like a MASTER CLASS
        Hey Phil thanks for the good post.

        But in all due respect I have to say Iam not crazy about this Model.

        Too much of people teaching others how to teach others on how to teach others in being Teachers/ Coaches.

        In many of these cases there is no real, altruistic value being traded. Just a viscous never ending cycle going round and round

        I think a student should learn the basics and practice a real life business and make some money doing this actual business over time { whether it be affiliate Marketing, SEO, Article Marketing, Product Creation etc..) and then consider maybe teaching and coaching this stuff

        That's just my opinion

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        • Profile picture of the author Ibrahim Al
          Originally Posted by discrat View Post

          Hey Phil thanks for the good post.

          But in all due respect I have to say Iam not crazy about this Model.

          Too much of people teaching others how to teach others on how to teach others in being Teachers/ Coaches.

          In many of these cases there is no real, altruistic value being traded. Just a viscous never ending cycle going round and round

          I think a student should learn the basics and practice a real life business and make some money doing this actual business over time { whether it be affiliate Marketing, SEO, Article Marketing, Product Creation etc..) and then consider maybe teaching and coaching this stuff

          That's just my opinion

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          Your opinion is totally right! and I am tired of all of these ideas that lead people to become a pyramid scheme experts....what is the point of your product really? what difference are you making in society? what kind of help are you giving to others? these are the questions that you should concentrate on when you are building your business/course
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          • Profile picture of the author discrat
            Originally Posted by Ibrahim Al View Post

            Your opinion is totally right! and I am tired of all of these ideas that lead people to become a pyramid scheme experts....what is the point of your product really? what difference are you making in society? what kind of help are you giving to others? these are the questions that you should concentrate on when you are building your business/course
            Thank you Ibrahim .

            I think you put it aptly and very nicely when you said "what difference are you making in society? "

            Honestly , I just don't see much Value to Society in a lot of these "Coaching to be Coaches" Scenarios I come across.

            Of course there are some very Legit Coaches who have been down in
            down in the "Trenches" and I have complete respect for them.

            But just too much of the other crap that tarnished these good ones


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    • Profile picture of the author seofreetips
      Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

      Yes absolutely - $197 is too low a price. Offer a longer term course - deliver it over a period of months.

      I want to add something here - the key is building up a trust and rapport with your customers - just selling a course will get you a few sales but for a more longterm business you need to do something similar to what I outlined above. A site with a forum about SEO where you are the expert. It will grow - everybody is interested in this - and you can offer courses. One a smaller one for $197 - an advanced course for $400 - like that - don't be afraid to ask for it - if I said to you I could teach you how to drive great traffic to your site for life and only at a cost of $400 for a 6 months course wouldn't you consider it?`
      I don't think that there are any secret key for driving traffic except Smart Work.
      Which everyone know but No one do.
      The main thing is To Take Action.
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    • Profile picture of the author anthony123321
      Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

      Yes absolutely - $197 is too low a price. Offer a longer term course - deliver it over a period of months.

      I want to add something here - the key is building up a trust and rapport with your customers - just selling a course will get you a few sales but for a more longterm business you need to do something similar to what I outlined above. A site with a forum about SEO where you are the expert. It will grow - everybody is interested in this - and you can offer courses. One a smaller one for $197 - an advanced course for $400 - like that - don't be afraid to ask for it - if I said to you I could teach you how to drive great traffic to your site for life and only at a cost of $400 for a 6 months course wouldn't you consider it?`
      i definitely agree with all that you said here, in order to make sales you have to build trust and that's done with free value which can be either achieved through a forum or a blog of some kind where you would share what you know so that you can be percieved as an authority on the subject.

      It takes time and effort to do it but when you have a group of people that follow you and trust you, then you have a great business model.

      They say that jesus was a great businessman because he had created a large following for himself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robscom
    People would seriously pay $400 for something that's just a hobby?
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    • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
      Are you kidding me? One of the richest guys online sells hobby kit plans for little woodworking items. Hobby is just another word for a career potential. Pretty much every skill I know started out as a hobby.

      My mom has bought more courses than I can shake a stick at - shes an artist and a cook and can't resist learning something new. You get the idea.

      I myself spent $1500 dollars for a course in online natural medicine PLUS $400 for another course.. You can't assume that $400 is a lot of money for the average working person. It really isn't

      More ..if anyone thinks that the hobby can earn them money in the future they are more than willing to jump in... I started out learning herbal medicine for my own interest and eventually became a naturopath - this kept expanding till I was running full time clinic - and it all started by my interest in it as a hobby. Hobbyist are all nuts haha and willing to pay... What are you interested in the most? I bet I could sell you a course in it
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    • Profile picture of the author gurutard
      Originally Posted by Robscom View Post

      People would seriously pay $400 for something that's just a hobby?
      People will pay any amount of money for something they feel is worth it. I sold a Legend of Zelda game for $200 last Christmas. I paid $60 for it when it first came out.

      So yes. People will pay hundreds, if not thousands for hobbies.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      Originally Posted by Robscom View Post

      People would seriously pay $400 for something that's just a hobby?
      yes, absolutely!

      I am a huge Tolkien fan - I must have forked out over that amount on books, movies, games, gear for the Lord of the Rings stuff - so yeah, hobbies are a gold mine and anyone selling to a passionate hobby niche is probably making pretty good coin -

      I once landed a $700 cash gig to create a LOTRO guild website that was back in 2007 which was the year I also became a Founder player of LOTRO so I was spending money in that niche and making money in that niche at the same time.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
      Originally Posted by Robscom View Post

      People would seriously pay $400 for something that's just a hobby?
      Formula 1 motor racing started out as a hobby... the this man

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Ecclestone

      came along, and the rest as they say, is history.

      Actually ALL motor sports started as hobbies; they are now big business Worldwide
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    • Profile picture of the author William Waltham
      Originally Posted by Robscom View Post

      People would seriously pay $400 for something that's just a hobby?
      I would, if it was something I genuinely wanted to learn. In fact, I HAVE paid that much to learn things that were purely for my own enjoyment or personal enrichment. I imagine other people do it, too. That's why places like MasterClass (an online learning platform with some pretty famous teachers) do so well and can get away with charging so much.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rajbir1994
      Originally Posted by Robscom View Post

      People would seriously pay $400 for something that's just a hobby?
      Actually $400 is nothing for the hobby. Most of the people now a days want to spend more and more for pleasure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    I agree. Selling a product can bring you huge floods of income when you go to launch it, and it'll give you a nice email list you can sell to again and again. I think the best route is to do a mix of selling your own products + selling other peoples product. Having multiple income streams never hurt anybody
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    • Profile picture of the author amadonxl
      Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

      I agree. Selling a product can bring you huge floods of income when you go to launch it, and it'll give you a nice email list you can sell to again and again. I think the best route is to do a mix of selling your own products + selling other peoples product. Having multiple income streams never hurt anybody
      Very true..I can relate to that.Paying my bills for 10years and still counting
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    • Profile picture of the author SamuelCheema
      Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

      I agree. Selling a product can bring you huge floods of income when you go to launch it, and it'll give you a nice email list you can sell to again and again. I think the best route is to do a mix of selling your own products + selling other peoples product. Having multiple income streams never hurt anybody
      I completely agree with you Edwin, Your own quality products to put your value in the market, as well as selling other products is the best way to do it, at least in my opinion. I also really like the initial idea of making a big long term course and selling it for $300+. If that is something one is wiling to do, it definitely i a great business model.
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  • Profile picture of the author shim333
    I think about start small then after trained in small earning then you grow, you list grow, then you can ask more and earn more, but start in high price products - can be not good decision.
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  • Profile picture of the author Regional Warrior
    Nice one Phil 4K a month some good coin there keep it up

    Jason
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post


    Write the course! Write 12 months of it - one lesson at a time. It's easier than it sounds. When I was young my Dad would carry in wood for the furnace (I am Canadian so it's not as odd as it sounds haha) and I asked him "Dad how can you carry in a whole cord of wood (look it up lol) He said " I don't carry in a whole cord of wood - I carry in one stick of wood at a time." So do one step at a time. Write one small lesson at a time... make a plan - write it down and give it a shot. You have little to lose and a lot to gain. (There are other ways too - PLR - Fiverr - a host of options)

    Charge $400 or more for it. At the end give a certificate of completion.

    I do just this everyday and make $4000 a month - you can too!
    SOLID PLAN!

    legit traffic source - check!

    high product price point - check!

    lesson completion certificate, something tangible for the customers hard work - check!

    truth be told I dont implement all of these tips in my funnel. But I think I should test it. good one
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  • Profile picture of the author Pick Panda
    I agree but it's not only about selling your own products. It's about compilation of those good products with good offers which people are looking for. If you have a good list of products with offers then you are going to attract market.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Start a site talking about it – make a forum on it
    Be sure to pair it with a FaceBook group.
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  • Profile picture of the author enjamulahsan
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    Great article, This could really work if you can rank on your niche and I am working as a SEO expert since couple of years. If you need help you can inbox me.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxsi
    Good stuff here, thanks
    I am the founder of 2 Biz Groups and we sell trading courses ($4500+) as advertising
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  • Profile picture of the author PLR Basket
    How long of a course are we talking about?
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  • Profile picture of the author spazz896
    Yes, stop learning, and start doing! Create your course! Most people are stuck in the learning mode...
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    • Profile picture of the author tourist
      Originally Posted by spazz896 View Post

      Yes, stop learning, and start doing! Create your course! Most people are stuck in the learning mode...
      if you do not learnming ;
      how to go to start?
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  • Profile picture of the author Seelanonline
    Great post Phil...

    as a newbie..it gets really hectic trying to manage your way and money through the interweb full of scams and promises..so starting to sell you passion is a great idea..its just that the lure of great returns ensures people like me get caught into a world that has great benefit but without your own action...you actually end up just chasing your tail...

    I know i would love to earn $4k a month...living in south africa...that equates to almost 15times for me..so that sort of income sound fab...thus i restarted my journey and found this forum and others to gain as much experience and knowledge i can to get my blog to a good position until i can generate income...

    thank you again for the post.
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  • Profile picture of the author joomlafreaks
    Hey Phil,

    I am a Joomla CMS expert and can do almost any thing with it.

    I am looking for some guidance on how can I sell my skill as a product. As per my experience, service selling does not work too well and definitely can not make to $4000 per month.

    Any thoughts ?
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  • Profile picture of the author amaziff
    Great advises. High prices for the products are associated with higher quality and therefore are in demand. If you have some exceptional skill I would advise also to try freelancing. It's also great thing. But I also like selling products. It has huge advantages.
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  • Profile picture of the author jdjenkins
    I think the general idea of going for high-ticket items is a good idea. If you've got a skill you can market and make a course out of, then that's great. Otherwise, there are plenty of high-ticket affiliate products around.

    Some people do seem to be wary of selling expensive things, probably because they themselves are in the habit of trying to find cheap ways of doing things. What matters is what the buyer thinks - it's their perception of the value on offer that is important. This is especially true when it comes to dealing with businesses - they will often have a budget to spend on a particular area, and will quite happily spend a few hundred dollars on something in preference to finding something cheap on Fiverr.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mos Cartof
    I like your ideea, that everybody is good in something. I'm good at history and geography. How could I made money with my knowledge?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Phil,

    You say write the course month by month. Do you "drip" the course monthly or give it all up front?

    If you drip it, do you spread the $400 payments out too or do you collect it all up front?

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
    I just wanted to followup a little here - the one thing that is not getting emphasized enough is not the making a course part - It is creating a community.

    Take a look at what is happening right here right now - we are all interested in learning about making money here on the Warriors Forum. The owners are making thousands per day because of this. They are pretty much using the exact system I am talking about.

    They have made a Business out of our interests.Not just a one time launch or selling an affiliate product. It is because we believe this site has value and can benefit us that we are here.

    So I am trying to create a mindset that can understand how to actually make a living.

    One issue is the fact is few people want to put in the time and effort. If its just a hobby then fine - yo can make a few dollars now and again. But if it is a real lifetime business that can support you and your family then it requires some dedication.

    Everything else can be worked out. Making a course etc. Actually it is MUCH easier to make money outside this niche since generally speaking it is people selling shovels to each other.

    For example in my field - naturopathy - it is a cinch to sell courses starting from beginner to intermediate to advanced. BUT the key is not selling courses - the key is HELPING people in your own area. Before I ever sold anything I was just giving some tips on herbs in various forums - After awhile (not very long) people started coming to my own site and ASKING me for a course.It was never my intention to do something like that.

    It is definitely tougher to do this in the IM field which is why I started off the whole thread with "if you have a skill" but like I said, here we all are on the Warrior Forum, so its not impossible lol

    It is easier than most people think. 1 Make a site/blog about your interest. 2 Make a forum 3 post on like-minded forums 4 help people as much as you can. People will come to your site and get engaged 5 have a course on your subject

    Sorry this is so long !
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

      I just wanted to followup a little here - the one thing that is not getting emphasized enough is not the making a course part - It is creating a community.

      Take a look at what is happening right here right now - we are all interested in learning about making money here on the Warriors Forum. The owners are making thousands per day because of this. They are pretty much using the exact system I am talking about.

      It is easier than most people think. 1 Make a site/blog about your interest. 2 Make a forum 3 post on like-minded forums 4 help people as much as you can. People will come to your site and get engaged 5 have a course on your subject

      Sorry this is so long !
      I hear you Phil. But just to clarify for others particularly Newbies ....this is just one angle/model to pursue and it can take you to new levels. Absolutely !!

      But it is definitely NOT the only Model to which you can be highly successful with. Actually, for many this may not be the most prudent Plan for them i.e building a Community with a Forum etc..etc..

      I think it is important to point out that there are many ways to skin a cat and this is just ONE excellent
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  • Profile picture of the author vebxperts
    Pushing me to take action! Nice work Phil.
    What I have understood is that the key here is "Helping others, that will automatically bring you some reputation and people will follow, what you will say/tell them. Later start a forum of your own and put it in your signature (on the forums, where you are helping them), they'll start getting to your forum" and this is where your success part starts off!

    Thanks for this Phil!
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  • Profile picture of the author Intellipro
    HeyPhil, Really good idea. I am SEO Consultant and more than 10+ years of experience in Marketing Section and now need to have action of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    I know this stuff works as I've done quite well out of it over the years.
    However, you will still need to drive traffic to your site - for me that was SEO and video marketing among other traffic strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author everyonewins
    I've working in the computer industry as a computer programmer for many years. I was wondering if all this experience would be valuable to others in some way? There are free courses and videos out there in programming and such...but it is an area a lot of people want to get a job in. Any ideas on what I could offer and how to proceed?
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    • Profile picture of the author Pick Panda
      Originally Posted by everyonewins View Post

      I've working in the computer industry as a computer programmer for many years. I was wondering if all this experience would be valuable to others in some way? There are free courses and videos out there in programming and such...but it is an area a lot of people want to get a job in. Any ideas on what I could offer and how to proceed?
      Yes you can, There are several ways, You can start your blog and put your experience there. It's not about teaching fresher, it's about solutions to complex logical issues. You can start a quick book to learn any technology and mention best solutions. You can start as a consultant, freelancer.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
    That's a good idea. The skills will always be paid higher.
    Anyway, dont forget to also build list
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
    Absolutely Robert - there are lots of possibilities - I am just trying to present one of them and give people who have some skill or talent a few ideas...

    For example I have already had a couple people PM me asking them for assistance setting up this kind of system - now while I am not into doing that ( I am already way too busy lol ) I can pretty much guarantee that if I were to offer them a $400 training course on how to set up a $4000/month (or even $500) website, I would get at least one sale - and that would be from ONE post on a single forum.What if I posted on multiple forms everyday? And why would they buy it? because in a single post people got to know me a little and feel like I have some expertise.

    And partly that's because I am offering some ideas that can actually be acted upon - I have done it myself so it's not theory or speculation. I am not just posting a thank you to get my signature seen. Sure I want that but I am also putting in some time and effort to explain something that I know can work for at least some people.

    So it's not about the courses or particular way of making money online etc - its about confidence and belief in the poster and the sense they really are interested in providing you with something of use.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrbrimp
      Hi Phil

      Great content Phil

      I can see your a "natural helper" making you a great salesman ( hate the word salesman by the way ) but thats exactly a great way of going about doing great things online in any niche.. being a natural helper and giving tons of value away.

      Great content.
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      • Profile picture of the author writeaway
        Originally Posted by mrbrimp View Post

        Hi Phil

        Great content Phil

        I can see your a "natural helper" making you a great salesman ( hate the word salesman by the way ) but thats exactly a great way of going about doing great things online in any niche.. being a natural helper and giving tons of value away.

        Great content.
        I've seen this happen quite a bit with lots of non-IM forums. There are a few posters who become the GO TO people for certain topics. Soon enough, they are charging for webinars. It's all about building credibility and AUTHORITY over time.
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by writeaway View Post

          I've seen this happen quite a bit with lots of non-IM forums. There are a few posters who become the GO TO people for certain topics. Soon enough, they are charging for webinars. It's all about building credibility and AUTHORITY over time.
          There are also a few in IM Forums I see. A couple I can think with Article Marketing who are the GO TO.
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  • Profile picture of the author lhlouiscom
    It's really more about the relationship building If a low price product can get more people to buy it that's great, it can also help to build a great audience, but $400 product can give you more money but very often, people decide to think again before they buy,

    or even worst if a product doesn't meet the quality standard, refund rates increase.
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  • Profile picture of the author JMSNelly
    I don't see how easy it is.

    First, you have to be creative, because no one buy something which someone already did. In case sharing experiences, skills or personal talents, doesn't it mean you archive a a lot? and that's not easy!

    I believe it comes from talents and... kind of "lucky", get your chance in right way at right time. Just because its easy to you doesn't mean its easy to everyone, don't convince people like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author sweetcrabhoney18
    Sounds to me like you are just building a for profit college.

    I'm on Robert's side however -- this is niche specific. While doing neuropathy ( which has nothing to do with your reflexology image by the way) makes it easy ; since people just buy that stuff like crazy.

    I can't see a man wanting to learn basic fishing online -- youtude has videos! LOL.

    A neuropathy school is better than a fishing school.

    BUT YES! This can work but hell yeah it will take a crap load of work.

    Tell us ... how long did it take you to make $4000 a month?

    AND also can you please say how are you maintaining that amount of profit each month.

    I respect and admire a for profit school ; especially one that actually helps people! Just never met a person who made one and shared it with everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
    Hi - I am just trying to give a few ideas - I think I said several times it takes hard work and dedication. The picture was just an example... anyway thanks to all the folks who posted a positive or constructive reply. This is just one way among many but it is a viable business plan for those who have the smarts to turn their talent or knowledge into a profitable venture- just as the warriors forum itself is.

    Finally I want to just add one thing - it is completely irrelevant that what you know can be found free on YouTube or anywhere else! Forget any idea like that - it will just stop you from moving forward. You can find a YouTube of how to cook anything but do you think that means people don't take cooking courses? It is the same kind of wrong idea that you have to price your business low because someone else is doing it. People VALUE what they pay for and especially if you take the time to make what you are offering a great product. Look at apple - they sell their products for a crazy high price - and just because of perceived value. I understand it can take a long time to learn and know all these things but the best way is to start and try. Finding reasons to not do something will never help you. Take action and be fearless.
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    • Profile picture of the author sweetcrabhoney18
      Finally I want to just add one thing - it is completely irrelevant that what you know can be found free on YouTube or anywhere else! Forget any idea like that - it will just stop you from moving forward.
      Yes youtube has it falls -- just like a for profit college . There are pros and cons for every business.

      Maybe I showcased a bad example? I genuinely mean I myself would go to youtude before investing $500 into a course that may or may not help me achieve my goals in the hopes of testing the water.

      I.E I'd hunt for basic fishing techniques on youtube but go to a college or school of some sort if I wanted to be a pro fisher or a competition fisher. ( being a nail tech and a competition fisher would be so awesome! And has been done too! )

      You can find a YouTube of how to cook anything but do you think that means people don't take cooking courses? It is the same kind of wrong idea that you have to price your business low because someone else is doing it. People VALUE what they pay for and especially if you take the time to make what you are offering a great product. Look at apple - they sell their products for a crazy high price - and just because of perceived value. I understand it can take a long time to learn and know all these things but the best way is to start and try. Finding reasons to not do something will never help you. Take action and be fearless.
      LOVE online cooking videos! The last in person cooking class I went to they were using strawberries and didn't say it . Ended up having to spend the evening in the hospital.

      I get it .. you don't want to answer my "constructive" posting because it feels insulting to you. And I deeply apologize to you because as I said I am completely supportive of your business. Simply asking questions -- just like everyone else.

      Your ideas and advice are great appreciated and I'm sure they will aid many other people. Again I'm very sorry for insulting you.

      Sending blessings and more success to you and your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
    Lol don't worry I am not insulted - just expressing my outlook on things. At 60 it takes a bit more to rile me up.
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    • Profile picture of the author tutonn
      Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

      Lol don't worry I am not insulted - just expressing my outlook on things. At 60 it takes a bit more to rile me up.
      You are absolutely right. I am a web developer and planing to switch. I was studying on this for last few months. I need a workable plan to start. Thanks for the sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
    great, Im doing IM, and also selling courses, people love it! and definitely will buy something which will brings a value into their lives!
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  • Profile picture of the author NDAWAAN
    Thank you for your hints. I have been trading Forex since last 7 years so after reading your post it gave me this idea to create a course around this since I have learn't a lot in all these years which I can share with others. It is all valuable off course as who will take my course will not have to repeat those mistakes which I did.

    So yes, you're right. It should work and I can charge $197 for a video course including my all indicators and $997 for personal coaching. There are people already selling this for $297 on Udemy so why not me.

    Why not us all newbies here.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Yes, really good stuff here. And I especially love the confirmation from different people that there are people in this World who will pay big bucks for hobbies.

      This is so true and cannot be talked stressed about enough

      Buying my Set of $4K Ludwig Drums is a good example


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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Easily one of the top ten threads of the year. Great stuff from both OP and many posters responding
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  • Profile picture of the author gabrielrala
    I read most of the thread messages, and I must agree to everybody, but to be successful one must be focus,determined,persistent and above all consistent to what he/she is doing. as of now I am thinking of having coach that will guide me to the right path
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  • Profile picture of the author TheKorean
    Hello Phil Essex first i have to say WHAT A GOOD PERSON YOU ARE ! Thanks for sharing youre knowledge to people like me that doesnt knew what the heck to do for making money online. Now after i reead youre post i feel like theres a path that i can follow and im able to afford it. in terms of money and time inverstment. But as a newbe i dint fully understand the part of making little lessons at the time for along term. Before i need to say that i research and all youre posts or youre aanswers to other people about this method on youre profile..cus i dont wanted to be a pain in the ass for you. but i dint find my answer so if you can detail explain that part to me i will be more then thankfull and i would carry youre wood if i can hahahaha.. Anyways
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  • Profile picture of the author Uchewaf
    Great! You are sixty and still bouncing so strong? Maybe I should withdraw the question I asked a few minutes a ago.
    Most ideas are gold mines provided the individual is willing to work and to bring current ideas into it.
    The post provides a good food for thoughy. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author FlorenciaCorr
    I like what you say here that there is no instant cash machine. If your lazy or want instant riches with zero effort good luck to you, haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author theimunderground
    High ticket sales always makes it 10x easier to live the "lifestyle." 1,000 sales at $500 is $500,000. How many bullcrap WSOs do you have to sell to hit that?
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  • Profile picture of the author felisitie
    Great post! Thanks. I think you can never put enough value on information or information products. I think their value is whatever the customer perceives as its value depending on their need or problem and how much they want to solve their problem or need so that would determine how much they would pay for something that would provide a solution.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxsi
    High ticket businesses mean = potential sales of $2K (range: $3K - $7K )

    you just need the right funnel + the right traffic campaigns
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  • Profile picture of the author Augustinus
    This is very nice Idea thank you ! I know thing or two about social media but I'm still thinking that it is not enough even if actually it is
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  • Profile picture of the author silveroaks
    Thats intelligent. But what if you do not have any skills that could sell. Making up a course would mean a very sound command over the topic and a level of interest that is no less than a passion.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeja7676
    First I wanted to make joke by replying that I only know how to boil an egg, but than after a quick search, I've realized there's people who make money out of it too...
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  • Profile picture of the author everyonewins
    What is the BEST way for people to find your blog? Is it generic through Google search or do you have to buy Facebook ads, or Bing ads, or "whatever"?
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    i sell my own products in the baby shower niche, not at such a high markup..

    I know what my audience is willing to pay because I tested it.
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  • Profile picture of the author whyeyeschoice
    Reading through these post has me thinking about creating my own products and begin selling them. I have many skill which can be translated into a step by step guide of some sorts...Success can be found...I will continue to brainstorm...but i have to say that this thread has been a total mind stimulation in regards to creating success and believing it can be done..Thanks everyone for your insights!
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  • Profile picture of the author reachintan
    This is certainly not easy as it looks. I own a website and have just started to see good traffic.

    Would certainly keep your course idea in mind. Although this would mean buying another blog or website.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I'm having a hard time with the premise of this thread. Who wants to take an online course that takes MONTHS to complete?
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  • Profile picture of the author Russelgs
    This following 2 steps can help you.
    Step 1: Research your target market
    Step 2: Come up with a killer topic and title
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  • Profile picture of the author rajakokcap
    first :

    target $4

    then $40

    then $400

    then $4000

    i think this is a much practical way to see it
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    I do that with just two websites. Clickbank and Microsoft. I created little campaigns with products that are proven to sell and convcrt. Once I have some direct sales coming in I then create a separate landing page and I have fun increasing my conversions from direct linking.
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  • Profile picture of the author apollo gabriel
    Wow great share, I must agree, you must have a product to sell to generate money, and at the same time seller must be honest at all times to customers. seller cannot compromise the sale over quality as well!
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

    I do just this everyday and make $4000 a month – you can too!


    You owe me $6,000, and one Cadillac.
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  • Profile picture of the author vovanfree
    "I like your strategies.But there are too much competition now a days in internet marketing. So 197$ is quite costly
    i think.What you say ?"
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  • Profile picture of the author zahidkomedi
    if you put lots of value in you products ..people are willing to pay
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  • Profile picture of the author superowid
    SELL KNOWLEDGE? Why not?

    I did it on skillshare. It's good for every newbie to start making money without a website and without a list either. Slowly but sure! With skillshare, every IM beginner can start making money and gain reputation or authority at the same time easily. Even for Non-Native English like me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Van Dam
    Phil, this is an absolutely amazing and workable idea. It seems after you have everything set up that you can more or less run it on autopilot with only a bit of promotion work required from you and of course, the most important part of it is that it cannot be saturated due to the wide variety of niches and skills that people have. Thanks for sharing this with us.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinkysoll
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    The idea is to have multiple streams of income. I make money with two mini affiliate sites and I also outsource article writing to Filipinos. (Made a client list for articles in my early days doing freelance online. So I just kept it going by outsourcing).

    Now I create PLR packages through my intelligent writers who are always on standby for content writing projects. They also write ebooks, sales copy and product buying guides and reviews for clients too.

    There're a bucket load of ways to make money online. Choose one that suits you and then focus you eforts into seeing your dream become a reality.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidoriolguide
    Am going start a product on teaching people how swim but before i start i am going look up the market for it first
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    Its good to have complete funnel with low and high ticket offers!
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  • Profile picture of the author oholymike
    Very good insight! It takes an awful lot of low-end, $7 conversions to match a single $400 course sale.
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    you do Coaching => people pay $10K or more
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  • Profile picture of the author Hemantkumar
    Woaaa....!!
    Great info. You really rocked it. You made me read every single bit of it.
    I really enjoyed your post very much.
    Thank you so much for this post.
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    • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
      Originally Posted by Hemantkumar View Post

      Woaaa....!!
      Great info. You really rocked it. You made me read every single bit of it.
      I really enjoyed your post very much.
      Thank you so much for this post.
      Hi Phil Here ... I am glad you liked the post = It is great to see it has generated a lot of interest. The reality is it can be done. Again it is not for everyone..it takes dedication and work. A few said it was too much work - well once you see a couple thousand a month coming in you won't think like that.

      The illusion that you can make a lot of money online without working hard and offering something of value is a hard pill to swallow but that's the fact really - most offline self employed people work 80 hours a week - translate that into working online and you will see results.

      Again I want to say this is not for everyone - but the premise is sound and can be applied to almost any area of working online.

      A couple of final points

      1: If you don't have a skill I suggest learning one! If that doesn't work learn another. Don't be afraid - keep expanding.

      2: Stop thinking people won't pay - that's because you don't have any money and can't put yourself into the shoes of people who have regular income and don't think anything of spending on something they are interested in. Readjust your mindset.

      3: Focus on community - focus on connection - focus on helping. That's the big key. Some can't do that but for those who can it's the big secret.

      4:This kind of business isn't about passing traffic through a funnel (hey it's a good model don't get me wrong!) it's about creating a place for your traffic to gain help and knowledge.

      5: It's just one way and it's aimed at folks who have something to offer to others - but it is a good way to set up a lifetime business.

      6: Write it down and start in little steps. What have you got to lose?

      Again I appreciate all the people who read and replied and hope some ideas got generated for you!
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      • Profile picture of the author aizaku
        Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

        Hi Phil Here ... I am glad you liked the post = It is great to see it has generated a lot of interest. The reality is it can be done. Again it is not for everyone..it takes dedication and work. A few said it was too much work - well once you see a couple thousand a month coming in you won't think like that.

        The illusion that you can make a lot of money online without working hard and offering something of value is a hard pill to swallow but that's the fact really - most offline self employed people work 80 hours a week - translate that into working online and you will see results.

        Again I want to say this is not for everyone - but the premise is sound and can be applied to almost any area of working online.

        A couple of final points

        1: If you don't have a skill I suggest learning one! If that doesn't work learn another. Don't be afraid - keep expanding.

        2: Stop thinking people won't pay - that's because you don't have any money and can't put yourself into the shoes of people who have regular income and don't think anything of spending on something they are interested in. Readjust your mindset.

        3: Focus on community - focus on connection - focus on helping. That's the big key. Some can't do that but for those who can it's the big secret.

        4:This kind of business isn't about passing traffic through a funnel (hey it's a good model don't get me wrong!) it's about creating a place for your traffic to gain help and knowledge.

        5: It's just one way and it's aimed at folks who have something to offer to others - but it is a good way to set up a lifetime business.

        6: Write it down and start in little steps. What have you got to lose?

        Again I appreciate all the people who read and replied and hope some ideas got generated for you!
        I guess you're a master at this, I'm this thread won't stay down. Great information here!

        I'm trying to think what my baby shower audience would pay $400 for...

        Being that it's just a one time event.. I've surveyed my audience and most of them are not the expecting mothers but friends of (baby shower hosts)

        Hopefully I'll get there.

        Thanks again,
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        • Profile picture of the author Phil Essex
          Originally Posted by aizaku View Post

          I guess you're a master at this, I'm this thread won't stay down. Great information here!

          I'm trying to think what my baby shower audience would pay $400 for...

          Being that it's just a one time event.. I've surveyed my audience and most of them are not the expecting mothers but friends of (baby shower hosts)

          Hopefully I'll get there.

          Thanks again,
          Ike Paz

          Great - Do you have a site and a forum on it where your audience can discuss what they are interested in or looking for? That should be a first step - from there it can evolve and you will find something of interest that can be turned into a steadier income. Be an expert - offer help and advice that is useful...
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          • Profile picture of the author aizaku
            Originally Posted by Phil Essex View Post

            Great - Do you have a site and a forum on it where your audience can discuss what they are interested in or looking for? That should be a first step - from there it can evolve and you will find something of interest that can be turned into a steadier income. Be an expert - offer help and advice that is useful...
            the forum part no,

            but it make sense to have one... people always want advice on decorating and games..

            Again, thanks for the idea.

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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    3 things.....

    1) I think OP is right. strong info.

    2) There are others who bring really cool stuff to the table.

    3) People reading this will do nothing with this info and look for the next guy rubbing his shiney bawls product. LOL.

    Basically the best info that was giving to me in under 10 seconds. Here it is......

    FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE $1, and then write down how you did that, and then UPSCALE and OUTSOURCE TO make ANY INCOME you want!!

    That is what I did to go from $100 a month to $700 USD a day.

    HOpe this helps someone, but it will only help you if you TAKE action.

    Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentPro22
    Just want to add:

    Increasing the price of your product allows you to deal with fewer customers.

    Just way less stressful over the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Y
    Great post Phil!

    I can confirm that this works! My first IM business was selling my own digital video tutorial series and it was eventually paying my mortgage off for me while I let it run almost on autopilot.

    Know your niche and target market/customer, and create a digital product to cater to it... profit!
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