Can I make money by building an email list and sales funnel in a niche that is not my passion?

8 years ago

Yes, lots of marketers make money in niches where they have no passion.

Is it the best situation? Not always. Sometimes, when profits don't pan out quickly, you have to stick to what you're doing even when you're tempted to do something else. Having passion for the niche usually means you'll stay engaged and interested longer than you would otherwise.

But I know of several friends that are making money in niches where their only concern is being there to make money - not necessarily because they have an interest in the niche personally.

Have a passion for the niche and getting excited about it usually shows in your personal communications and enthusiasm so that is something you could work toward if you don't have it now. Once you start making money in the niche you will be more excited about it.

Steve

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DIABL0

8 years ago

I monetize data using PPL (pay per lead...lead generation) offers. I've been doing it for over 16 years. However, I don't have a passion for any of the offers that I promote. My passion simply lies in the marketing.

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wajdisawaqed 8 years ago

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question, I really appreciate that.

With all respect to what you are doing but I think what I'm trying to do is a bit different. Sending traffic to PPL offers is a bit different "I think" than building an email list and promote new offers over and over to the same list. I think I need to have any kind of relation to make them feel good about buying my recommended offers.

Correct me if I'm wrong please. But In your case, if the campaign dies, you need to create new campaign, optimize it, till it's profitable. is that right?

I don't want to make money from my traffic only once, and if the campaign dies I'm left with no assets at all. Thats why I'm trying to build an email list and make my money with my follow up or broadcasts emails.

I hope my point is clear.

Thank you so much again.
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bleght

8 years ago

Do you think everybody promoting penis enlargement pills has it as their passion? Of course not. You just need to be passionate about success.

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aizaku

8 years ago

yes,

I'm in the baby shower niche. Originally I had no passion for it.

but i do now.....

why? because Ive helped so many hosts and expecting moms put on the events they wanted from the comfort of my living room (or starbucks).

you CAN learn to love something that you had no interest in...

just like you can learn to hate something you used to enjoy,.

Best of luck,
Ike Paz

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wajdisawaqed

8 years ago

Originally Posted by aizaku

yes,

I'm in the baby shower niche. Originally I had no passion for it.

but i do now.....

why? because Ive helped so many hosts and expecting moms put on the events they wanted from the comfort of my living room (or starbucks).

you CAN learn to love something that you had no interest in...

just like you can learn to hate something you used to enjoy,.

Best of luck,
Ike Paz

Hi aizaku,

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.

I have one question please.

How do you go around building a relation with your list if you are not passionate about it? how can you be personal with your list if they don't know who is behind this site that is recommending this product?

Would someone buy from an email he/she receives from unknown source?

I would really appreciate your answer on my question.

Thank you

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aizaku 8 years ago

No worries,

i'd be happy to share my experience with you

Originally Posted by wajdisawaqed

How do you go around building a relation with your list if you are not passionate about it?

Well i wasn't at first. but like i said.i learned to enjoy the process of helping folks get the games and diaper cakes they wanted.

also surveying my list (google forms) helped me tremendously to find ways to service them

Originally Posted by wajdisawaqed

how can you be personal with your list if they don't know who is behind this site that is recommending this product?

I used to use a pseudonym but i dont anymore. I straight up tell them about me and my story in my "about me" page.

This was a game changer for me.

Originally Posted by wajdisawaqed

Would someone buy from an email he/she receives from unknown source?

I can't speak on that.. all of my leads know that I'm emailing them about baby showers and baby shower products.

Best of luck,
Ike Paz
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ChrisBa

8 years ago

Yes. Of course. You don't need to love the product or niche to make money off of it.

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wajdisawaqed 8 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Yes. Of course. You don't need to love the product or niche to make money off of it.

Hi ChrisBa,
Thanks for your answer man.

I have a question please

How do you make your list buy your affiliate product if you don't love the product? or if you don't have any kind of relation with them.

Is it a matter of writing a sales letter email, send it and rely on the size of the list to make conversions?

Thanks again mate.
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myob

8 years ago

Passion can be outsourced. I market very successfully in dozens of niches for which I have no passion, interest nor much expertise.

Being passionate about your products or niche may actually be detrimental as it often clouds judgement or critical decisions.

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wajdisawaqed

8 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

Passion can be outsourced. I market very successfully in dozens of niches for which I have no passion, interest nor much expertise.

Hi myob,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts mate. I appreciate your time.

One question please.

How do you outsource passion? can you please give me more details on this point if you don't mind.

Thanks again.

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BigFrank Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by wajdisawaqed

How do you outsource passion?

No offense intended (for a change) but that might be the funniest question I have ever read on this forum.

Frank
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YourBizAid

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by wajdisawaqed

Hi myob,
How do you outsource passion? can you please give me more details on this point if you don't mind.

Frank I don't think that's a funny question. To answer this person's question, you can literally outsource passion to someone who is "passionate" about the niche you want your funnel built in and is "willing" to do the work for you at a particular price.

For instance, my team build really high converting funnels in different niche markets, and I assign each individual funnel development to different funnel experts based on the niche they're most experienced in, and passionate about.

That's a simple way to explain outsourcing of passion.

Hope this helps.

Ken

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by YourBizAid

Frank I don't think that's a funny question. To answer this person's question, you can literally outsource passion to someone who is "passionate" about the niche you want your funnel built in and is "willing" to do the work for you at a particular price.

For instance, my team build really high converting funnels in different niche markets, and I assign each individual funnel development to different funnel experts based on the niche they're most experienced in, and passionate about.

That's a simple way to explain outsourcing of passion.

Hope this helps.

Ken

Sorry, Ken. Nice try, but that's totally ridiculous.

The only thing you are 'outsourcing' is a fairly universal desire to make money. I guess you can call that passion, but you'll never get me to agree with the concept as you're presenting it. That's cute, but not much more.

If you believe what you are saying, you and I have a very different opinion of what passion is. True passion can't be transferred. That's not to say that others can't 'develop' their own passion for something that you may be passionate about - but you still didn't transfer yours. :-)

Frank

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myob

8 years ago

Originally Posted by wajdisawaqed

One question please.

How do you outsource passion? can you please give me more details on this point if you don't mind.

My marketing strategy has always been the calculated exploitation of the passion in other people, as alluded to by Ken above.

I surround myself with people of relevant passion, talent, and expertise to tap into the emotional drivers within some of the most hotly competitive markets.

If any particular niche or product is not producing up to my expectations, there is no problem for me to simply unceremoniously dump it for another.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

If any particular niche or product is not producing up to my expectations, there is no problem for me to simply unceremoniously dump it for another.

That's not passion. It's pragmatic convenience and there's nothing wrong with that. :-)

Frank

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myob 8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

That's not passion. It's pragmatic convenience and there's nothing wrong with that. :-)

Frank

I never said that I was personally "passionate" about anything regarding specific niches for marketing.

In my not so humble opinion, basing decisions on passion is piss-poor advice, and more often than not is doomed to failure.
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discrat

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

The fastest way to lose interest in your passion is to turn it into your job.

Frank

Not to build up that already huge bucket head of yours, but one of the keenest things said here in a long time.

And actually puts the "you must have passion for your niche to be successful" crowd rightfully in their place.

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yukon

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Not to build up that already huge bucket head of yours, but one of the keenest things said here in a long time.

And actually puts the "you must have passion for your niche to be successful" crowd rightfully in their place.

Absolutely!

Somebody has to pump crap out of septic tanks.

Might as well be you and not me.

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myob 8 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Somebody has to pump crap out of septic tanks.

This is a multi-billion dollar a year industry, and is expected to quadruple over the next 5 years. You don't need to have a passion for shit to get a nice piece of this pie.
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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Not to build up that already huge bucket head of yours, but one of the keenest things said here in a long time.

And actually puts the "you must have passion for your niche to be successful" crowd rightfully in their place.

You sound surprised. Please pay closer attentions. I'm always spreading my brilliance around. :-)

Frank

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Rob Cruz

8 years ago

Yes, you can always do that...

But personally, I'd stay away from health niche if I'll be picking a niche that I'm not passionate about. That's so risky, in my opinion.

But you can always enter a niche you don't love. There are always solutions, one is outsourcing.

Goodluck!

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Randy McLean

8 years ago

It really depends on your personality type.

If you're the type of person that gets bored or distracted easily I would stick with your passion.

Some are more analytical and don't really care.

To me, the whole idea of getting out of the rat race is to do something you love.

Or you should love some aspect of it. As others mentioned, it could just be the marketing itself.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

The fastest way to lose interest in your passion is to turn it into your job.

Frank

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discrat

8 years ago

I always had Passion for the Process regardless of the actual Niche

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