A few newbie questions

by ben500
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Hi

I have been looking at building a website for a while and finally have the free time to start a project.

I enjoy sports and exercise, and my website would acually be first and foremost to share what I consider good knowledge, and prevent people wasting money or doing silly FAD diets. If I make a few pounds ££ or at least covered my costs that would be fine.

Please could somebody briefly explain how to go about getting a website up online? In terms of domains / actually building the website. Im not really interested in marketing initially, I would actually be more interested in getting a little web forum going.

Any suggestions for how to set this up? I gather I need a web domain and hosting? Please can somebody explain in a bit more detail how this works, I have read a few threads, but a little unsure

Thanks

*Note I did look into this a few years ago, but have forgotton most of the knowledge I gained, and I guess now its out of date.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    I'd need to know more, but your plan sounds solid.

    This is what I'd recommend:

    1. Viral Blog.
    2. Integrate email capture.
    3. vBulletin forum on the back end.

    You can use the blog to drive traffic to your media (articles, videos, images) and to your monetizations. But you can also use it to grow your forum. (I do the same thing.)

    Go with Wordpress for the blog; vBulletin for the forum (cloud hosted).

    I would monetize it, though. You have so many good affiliate offers in those markets, and it's easy adding them.

    Last thing to mention for now: collect your audience.

    Use these:

    1. Newsletter,
    2. Forum,
    3. Socials.

    And, remember, you can also use those platforms to create a bigger audience. They have synergy. You can use each one to grow itself and the others.

    Best of luck, matey.

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  • Profile picture of the author ben500
    Thanks Tom

    I was acually thinking about buying a domain from namecheap and hosting on Linode. Do they seem ok to use?

    However actually building the website, sorry I am very new this. How would I do that bit and upload to the host?

    I already have about 6,000 words of content which I can split into 9 headings. So i would originally want to upload that content first and then follow with the blog/forum later. My logic is I want come content for people to read in the first instance.

    Are uploading forums and blogs to websites easy? Would I build it on vbulletin as you suggest? then upload?

    Would maybe add some affiliates when I have content, but thats not my main aim. Would prefer retention and get my messages over first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by ben500 View Post

      Thanks Tom

      I was acually thinking about buying a domain from namecheap and hosting on Linode. Do they seem ok to use?

      However actually building the website, sorry I am very new this. How would I do that bit and upload to the host?

      I already have about 6,000 words of content which I can split into 9 headings. So i would originally want to upload that content first and then follow with the blog/forum later. My logic is I want come content for people to read in the first instance.

      Are uploading forums and blogs to websites easy? Would I build it on vbulletin as you suggest? then upload?

      Would maybe add some affiliates when I have content, but thats not my main aim. Would prefer retention and get my messages over first.
      Wordpress is easier now. 10 years ago, perhaps, installing Wordpress could be a minor hassle. Nowadays, you simply get hosting, login to cPanel, and you can install Wordpress at the click of a few buttons.

      As far as your vBulletin forum goes: this is an entirely separate installation and it'll work outside of Wordpress. You can use BBPress, instead, a forum plugin provided by Wordpress, but I wouldn't recommend it. It's fine initially, but further down the line you'll regret it. I'd recommend vBulletin (or something equally robust) because it's future-safe; in other words, the bigger your forum gets, the more robust a forum you need, so it's best to get it from the outset instead of transfering databases in the future.

      All of which sounds rather easy, but it truly isn't. The kind of business you're talking about is an advanced development. It can be setup in a simple manner, but I really wouldn't give that a thumbs-up. You could whack up a basic blog, toss up BBPress, and hurl in your 6,000 words of content. But, if I'm any judge of a newbie (no offense), it'll fail. In my earlier post, I offered the type of setup I'd recommend. Nutshell: viral blog + vBulletin. I use the same setup myself. What you need to do, though, is learn the elements that will help you setup, operate, and grow that model. I didn't have time to do that in my post. If you're able to, then, consider that setup (or any others) and, at the same time, learn what goes into pulling them off; I'd explain here but it would take me months.

      Last bit of advice (before I nip off for a wee). Almost every newcomer arrives in IM Land and thinks: if I build it, they will come. Take this next bit to heart, Ben: unless you learn the ropes, it won't happen. What will happen is this: you'll devote months of your life to a project that never takes off and then you'll walk away from IM Land, never to return. I can't explain how to prevent this from happening in a single post, but I can give you some good advice. Remember, just because you love your business, that doesn't mean other people will share that love. It's 2017. We have Youtube. We have Kim Kardashian showing off her buttocks on IG. We have streaming, gaming, VR. And to cap it all off: since the dawn of time, people have cared more about their own passions than any others. What you need to do, Ben, is figure out a reason to MAKE them come. If possible - many reasons. And understand, it needs to be something different. If you push out a white noise business, as the majority do, you have almost no chance of real success. You can make a white noise squeeze, hurl traffic, earn some money. But to try and avoid failure (and maximize income potential) you need to shoot for different. But not just different for the sake of it. Your business needs to solve core audience problems AND be different. It isn't easy.

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  • Profile picture of the author Laksh
    If you wanna know about setting up of website all by yourself ... your best source is YouTube. Jst pick up Wordpress as your choice & search for 'How to setup a Wordpress Website'.
    Since you've got sometime now, you may better try getting more content ideas & outsource your website creation stuff.
    Just my 2cents ...
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  • Profile picture of the author ben500
    Good idea that.

    Will do so now.

    I presume its wordpress.org I need?

    Is there any fee for this?
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    • Profile picture of the author Laksh
      Wordpress.org .. yes. It's a CMS platform. You need to have your hosting & domain bought from any vendors. Once you've got them, you need to install Wordpress through the Cpanel from hosting company.
      If you want to skip all that .. jst go to Wordpress.com to create something faster with less customization possibilities. But you would end up with something like .... yourdomain.wordpress.com which may not be as good as yourdomain.com
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  • Profile picture of the author ben500
    Cheers Laksh

    One final question, is there much difference between Hostgator and A2 hosting? I have narrowed my host choice down to these two. I will be planning to install wordpress.org so that needs to be supported.

    I will be using it for one website (at least initially). If I went with the hatchling plan where I have a single domain, would I have to buy a second hatchling plan to upload a second domain?
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    • Profile picture of the author Myles Sinclair
      Originally Posted by ben500 View Post

      Cheers Laksh

      One final question, is there much difference between Hostgator and A2 hosting? I have narrowed my host choice down to these two. I will be planning to install wordpress.org so that needs to be supported.

      I will be using it for one website (at least initially). If I went with the hatchling plan where I have a single domain, would I have to buy a second hatchling plan to upload a second domain?
      When it comes to choosing a host, you'll get a lot of conflicting opinions in this forum. People tend to recommend whatever they are using, which might not always be the best solution for you.

      I suggest you take a look at this forum - Web Hosting Talk - The largest, most influential web hosting community on the Internet You'll get recommendations based on your budget and needs. As a minimum I'd recommend hosting that includes cPanel. It makes it easy to manage the technical stuff, and super easy to move your site if you ever need to switch hosts!
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  • Profile picture of the author ben500
    Thanks for that, I appreciate the time it will have taken to write and shall consider what you have said.

    Though just to clarify, I am not really treating this as a "business". Its more information I would like to share to as many people as possible for (imo) their benefit, rather than with the underlying intention of making money out of them. If I happen to find an honest way of covering my costs, that would be great, but its not my outright goal.

    As such I have set aside £250 in the first instance for a years hosting / web costs / marketing or whatever I need.

    However, I appreciate I need to find a reason to make them come to the website.

    In terms of Vbulletin, is there an initial cost to putting that on a website? And how does it work in practice, do people need to register with vbulletin and obtain a username and password if they want to write on my forum? or if anybody can post who would be able to block spammers.

    Oh, by the way, do you know roughly how much hosting privacy service costs with A2 hosting? I see it says starts from $0, but I doubt thats the case. Cannot work out exact fees unless I start to sign up which I am not ready for yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by ben500 View Post

      Thanks for that, I appreciate the time it will have taken to write and shall consider what you have said.

      Though just to clarify, I am not really treating this as a "business". Its more information I would like to share to as many people as possible for (imo) their benefit, rather than with the underlying intention of making money out of them. If I happen to find an honest way of covering my costs, that would be great, but its not my outright goal.

      As such I have set aside £250 in the first instance for a years hosting / web costs / marketing or whatever I need.

      However, I appreciate I need to find a reason to make them come to the website.

      In terms of Vbulletin, is there an initial cost to putting that on a website? And how does it work in practice, do people need to register with vbulletin and obtain a username and password if they want to write on my forum? or if anybody can post who would be able to block spammers.

      Oh, by the way, do you know roughly how much hosting privacy service costs with A2 hosting? I see it says starts from $0, but I doubt thats the case. Cannot work out exact fees unless I start to sign up which I am not ready for yet.
      Grab your domain from a registrar. I prefer Godaddy, but if you want free WHOIS, I think Namecheap offer it. They used to; just check.

      vBulletin (the forum WF is using) can either be purchased or rented. Based on your budget, go with the latter (their cloud package).

      You can configure vBull' to operate in a few different ways. In your case, I'd recommend you setup free registrations. So you make all forums free access for registered members (like much of WF here).

      Before you do any of this, though, plan out your venture. And, seriously, think of it like a business. With or without monetization, treating it like a business will give you necessary focus.

      With your £250 budget in mind, I'd actually just consider a blog for now. Keep things simple; low cost. Collect your audience with a newsletter and your social pages and accounts.

      Last tip: learn your way around viral marketing and SEO. They compliment each other. And, aside from SEO, just learn 1 traffic-generation method for now. Learn it, master it, then learn another.

      A common newbie mistake is putting your heart and soul into delivering great content - that no one ever reads. If people can't find it? They can't enjoy it.

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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    Yes Word Press is the way to go. As mentioned above there are about one million videos on youtubes explaining how to set it up. It may seem complicated at first but once you get the hang of it it is rather easy.
    As for hosting I think an important factor is the host companies support depart. I use Host Monster ( owed by Host Gator I think). I find their support is very good. I just place a phone call and soon i am speaking with a knowledgeable person.

    Also keep in mind that the use of proper plugins is important. Just a couple = Yoast SEO and some security plugins such as WP Wordfence. Unfortunately people try to hack into sites all the time and you want your site to be secure. There are so many plugins and themes to select it can be overwhelming.
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