"That'll NEVER Work..."

Not necessarily. Sometimes, people get so enamored with their great new idea that they completely overlook reality. And, unfortunately, sometimes the reality is that their idea will never work.

I think if a person really believes an idea will work, they should just do it and not ask anybody's opinion.

Everybody will have an opinion, and not all opinions are the same.

Sometimes a person will have knowledge to back up their opinions, which need to be considered as well

Dan,

You're right. "Sometimes" people refuse to accept reality. But I still say "many" times people who tell us something will never work really mean they'd never try it *themselves* so it would never work for them. That does not mean it will not work for anybody.


Bev,

I agree...
I agree...
and
I agree...

Tina

I've always been an action kinda person.

You can ask anybody who knows me, they will all tell you that if I get an idea in my head, then I'm gonna have to do something about it. I'm prepared to do something, even if it's messed up, just to prove to myself.

I will get a result no matter what.

Good or bad, I will know if something works or doesn't (more often it is the latter, but those build character..lolz)

Way back when I had dreamz of working alone (14 years old)... I was already helping in family business and with my Uncle in his home business.

My mother told me to stay away from my home business, and focus on building what my Father had started... bleh! to that

My way worked out just fine an dandy!

Peace

Jay

Ditto on that. I love trying things out, experimenting...if it doesn't work it's one more way I know it doesn't work. So what! LOL

It's wrong to say an idea is right or wrong straight off the bat without any kind of
research behind it.
Both sides need the facts before making a judgement.

I have lost count the number of times I thought of a great idea for a niche only to find it's already been done to death or alternatively no one is as interested in it as I thought.

You've just got to keep on plugging away, and hope they are the wrong ones and not you!

If all failures are actually a success (you succeeded in finding one more way NOT to do something) does that mean all successes are actually failures in that by achieving success you failed to fail?

Jay, I LOVE your signature. Hilarious, and so true.

As to your response, I think everyone needs to find their own way.

The thing is, sometimes people are afraid (unlike you) to give their ideas a try...especially after hearing "That'll never work" from people they know, love, and trust (read that "family" mostly, lol).

My point with my post was to say, "Ignore them and do it anyway. You'll never know if you don't at least try."

Tina

There's a reason for this.

It is simply impossible for a person of average intelligence to tell the difference between the outrageously brilliant and the monumentally stupid.

Because no matter how you slice it, both of them are simply from a different planet.

The only thing people really know is intellectual distance. How far is this from the sort of things that I think? If it's not very far, then it's probably not that bad. But if it is... then you have to figure out where you are on the scale.

If you're of average intelligence, then no matter how far away it is, there's equal likelihood for it to be brilliant or stupid.

If you're of low intelligence (and you know it), then the farther away it gets, the more likely it is to be smart. There simply aren't as many people dumber than you as there are smarter than you.

But if you're smart... especially if you're one of those rarefied individuals that people call a "genius"... the converse applies. There simply aren't so many people smarter than you. So the farther away the idea is from your own thought processes, the more likely it is to be stupid.

Trouble is, there's a spanner in the works, because even people of average intelligence and lower can have brilliant ideas. As they say, even a blind dog finds a bone once in a while.

So just because there are more people of one category or another doesn't actually impact the likelihood of an idea being brilliant or stupid. It could be either one, no matter how brilliant or stupid the person is.

Great Thread!

Here is an example: Find out what everyone else is doing, and then, do the opposite. Not always an effective strategy, but let's look at a concrete example:

Everyone says that to be an effective affiliate marketer you must "find a niche", be a "niche marketer", "dominate your niche", or even find a "micro niche" and dominate that.

Why if you micro-size your niche enough, eventually you niche will be so small that there will be no customers at all.

Grocery stores on the other hand are not niche marketers...on the contrary, they are "Muchly Marketers" (for want of a better term to be opposite of niche). They market muchly.

So, a person could be a Muchly Affiliate Marketer - and have every conceivable product known to Affiliate mankind.

Would it work? I bet it would.

-DTM

Sometimes the idea that does not work simply has the wrong person behind it.

If we are honest with ourselves, however open minded we are we have probably said it ourselves and been proved wrong. I know I have. I'm more careful now.

(I've also said it and been proved right though.)

I think most advice is well intentioned, however, if you have an idea that you think is great, then put it into action. If if it doesn't work, learn WHY it didn't work, and improve on it or move on to something else.

Internet marketing is all about testing, testing, and more testing. You will never know if your idea is good or not if you never try it at all!

how do you know if a great idea is bad or good unless that person acts upon it? Yes, not everybody has a good idea, but it you go in with the attitude that no one will like your idea, then you will never know if it was good or not.

I have tried and failed at many different things, but I will never succeed if I never try. That's how a lot of these millionaires became just that.

it's always easy to say "ah, (s)he succeeded because they never gave up". Think Howard Schulz and pitching the coffee-house idea to 200+ investors, the chicken-soup-of-the-pretty-much-anything empire, also 200+ pitches before anybody bought the idea.
if you truly believe in it AND it won't bankrupt you pursuing it, go for it. If it screws your life or that of your family, ditch the idea.

V.

I think that many times that phrase is uttered out of envy by people who are just too chicken to try anything out of the box, mostly out of fear of failure. At the same time, they DON'T want someone close to them trying it out for fear that it may work. It's a catch-22 kind of thing that keeps them paralyzed and immobilized with inaction.

I think inaction is FAR bigger problem than taking action, especially in this IM industry. Many people seem to spend years "educating" themselves about all the latest techniques, but never actually implement a single thing, and I think that is such a shame!

When I decide to do something I don't tell anyone . It is my a$$ if it works or if it doesn't .

I would rather hear " I didn't think that would work." Or "That will not work" and I show them proof to the contrary .

Hey Tina,

I am an idea person myself. I often have too many ideas to act on. Sometimes that is a blessing, and sometimes it is a nightmare :-)

But, I believe in action. If I have a fantastic idea I take action on it and see if it will work. There's been many times that someone told me that an idea would not work, but it ended up working.

Now, I will ask people's advice and I will take their advice seriously. But I have also come to realize who the naysayers are. It does not matter what you're doing or how you're doing it they are going to tell you it's going to fail. They want you to fail because they do not want to succeed. They do not want to see you succeed. They do not want you to leave them behind.

So, their only defense mechanism against that is to tell you that it will never work. That way, they think that you will not try it.

Unfortunate but true.

But, we all need to take action in order for anything to come to fruition anyway.

Talk soon,

Shannon Herod

If people like Sylvester Stallone, Col. Sanders, and Cynthia Kersey listened to all the "noise" and the "experts" that it couldn't be done, none of use would have ever heard of them, tried out their chicken recipe, seen their movies, or been motivated by their books.

It's true that they could have failed and not succeeded at their endeavors, but there's something to be said by trying - and trying hard! As far as reality goes, I like Deepak Chopra's quote "there is no actual reality, only the perception of reality".

RoD

Wow. I went off to write some articles, and came back to all this!
Thanks for all the responses. Some thought-inspiring stuff in here for sure.

Tina

absolutely great post keep it
always use the nike strategy
and one more
DONT GIVE UP