Building A List - I Need Ideas!

Probably one of the fastest ways to grow a list is through JV ad-swaps. It takes a little more time but can be well worth it.

Victoria,

My favorite two methods are article marketing and forum marketing. I send traffic to a simple squeeze page, give away a free report, and sometimes I'll work in an OTO in the process to try to get a little bit of up front money for my efforts. Test it, of course.

The reason I like article and forum marketing traffic the best is the quality of the signer-uppers. Highly targeted and often very motivated folks. Works great for niche list building. I'll be adding a couple of continuity memberships into the mix in 2010 to see how that goes.

Test your squeeze page elements to maximize the sign-up conversion rate. Traffic matters, of course, but the fewer you "waste" the more bang you'll get for your buck (time).

John

As stated above, doing an ad swap can build you a list quite quickly. But you have to make sure your ad swap partner is in the same niche to build a targeted list. You may find my site (in signiture) useful.

Thanks,
Adam

The sources you are using now can and will get a lot of targeted customers if you realize two things .

1: You have to understand who you Are advertising to.

These are people clicking for credits . They are wanting visitors to their sites . they have the basic needs of all internet marketers .

Websites , hosting , autoresponders , email list . Give this to them for free and they will opt in.

2: They really want one thing and one thing only . TRAFFIC. Give them something that can provide a quick boost of traffic for an opt in. Sell them a permanent traffic solution .

Honestly , they can buy websites , hosting , and autoresponders . Unless they are lucky they have already been burned by ppc . This is the only paid traffic most know of .
They don't know where to buy traffic or the knowledge to get it naturally . Use traffic sites to push traffic . Sell the websites , hosting , and autoresponders ( and a lot more ) from list .

The single fastest way is to produce something that's REALLY valuable. Give it away for free. Then approach IMers that have a bigger list than you currently do and persuade them to give away you free product. Once your list gets larger, you can approach bigger marketers and leverage your newly acquired list by saying you'll help them out. And then leverage further etc.

Brad

Hi Victoria,

join giveaway events or try
hosting one.

All the best,

Omar

Yo Victoria............having checked out your "stuff".... it appears you are a smart chick with some real talent....and since I'm a sucker for a pretty face and Warrior Diva's in distress et al.....here's my spin:

I think your entire premise (OP) is flawed....

It seems to me you are more interested in creating "quantity" rather then "quality"..... in regards to building your "list".....or "lists".

I say LIST'S....based on your response to the legendary Alexa....

Based on that response alone...I personally think your approach is way too scattered.....and your demographic/market.... is way too broad based.

In other words.....I still don't know what the hell the nuts and bolts of your offer is....and if I don't know....I wont buy.....but I'll waste your time.....and kick a lot of tires for you.

Capiche?

People "interested in internet marketing" ain't no niche....it's a motley crue....consisting of gypsies, tramps, thieves, house wives, old people, starlets, and average joe's and I could go on forever.

Were I you'se......I find a sliver of a niche to hijack and take over...and build a list around it....... rather then trying to sell to the friggin' universe.

Cuz unless your pockets are really deep....you'll end up selling to NO ONE.

Believe me...."traffic" for the sake of "traffic"....is easy to create and it's a dime a dime a dozen, and about as useless.

I look to create qualified and targeted traffic......people who are actually are interested in my "compelling offer"...... enough to bang their credit card.....or the one they just snagged out their old lady's purse.

You can get traffic out of a friggin' phone book. Creating "numbers" is easy......"creating buyers".....is paramount if you intend to last in this game.

Your list is growing by 20 people a day......and that's great.

You'd be surprised how few people ON THIS VERY FORUM.... get those type of numbers in a life time...it sad but true.

My question to you is this: how many of them are BUYING SOMETHING?

My friend and partner Sylvia Rolfe.....we generate about 3 to 6 new names to our list each day........but the difference is.....they go through enough hoops to qualify themselves. (We are also marketing a high end product.)

We use a google friendly squeeze page or a dumb ass easy blogger blog that redirects to a squeeze page. All started via Google Adwords.

Long story short.....we dominate the BARTER AND BARTERING NICHE via google adwords......and it's worth every click.

People need to stop being so damn cheap....and start going from point a to z.....rather then wasting time trying to be clever.....because your time is valuable...peeps.

NO LESS THEN THE WARRIOR FORUM GODFATHER ALLEN SAYS.... ONCE SAID IN A POST......."WHY DON'T MORE OF YOU PEOPLE CONSIDER PAID TRAFFIC??"

If anyone of you'se grizzled warriors can find that post....please repost it...cuz it's required reading.

Truth is.......I see people spend and waste lifetimes trying to figure out to "out slick" the system......and generate free traffic.....most of it about as worthless as that shiny coin they sell on one of shopping club shows.

I personally like a tightly run little google adwords campaign.....which has literally run two of our competitors right out of the game because they can NOT compete with us.....no matter how high they bid. True.

And it's hands off. I don't screw with it at all....just email Syl for stat updates etc. That's it. Simple. Effective....but again......it does cost a few bucks.

So how bad do you "want it?" Market accordingly.

And we run under two broad keywords.....so the fact we continue to gangster slap companies with far larger budgets then ours....is a source of never ending joy for me.

But again...we have a targeted OFFER.......AND WE MAKE PEOPLE GO THROUGH HOOPS......TO GET ON OUR LIST.

We follow up with an aweber campaign with a sickening high open rate....and our list consists of buyers.

So while it's small.....it's golden. Because again....I'd rather have a list of 200 buyers then a list of 2,000,000 strokes, mooches, tire kickers, freebee seekers....and people who have to count their change to make sure they enough to order some boring ass 2 dollar ebook book on why Bumble Bees Bumble etc.

But that's still better then marketing to the entire world.....cuz that is a friggin' recipe for failure.

Nuff said.

You got talent Miss Vicotoria......and unlike a lot of people around here...... your ass is actually IN THE GAME.

You're in the trenches DOING SOMETHING..... AND READY AIM FIRE..... IS BETTER THEN DOING NOTHING IN MY OPINION....BUT THAT'S JUST VINNIE'S SPIN.

Good for you...and best of luck to you, too. For real.

p.s. Don't market to the world.....because it doesn't exist.

Peace.


xxx Vegas Vince
Legend.

Hi Victoria,

Out of your list so far...
So Far I have Been Using:
ListJoe
Free Traffic Bar
Auto Surfs (just to squeeze pages not websites)
ScreenSaver Traffic
WSO's (of course)
A Few Free Ad Forums
Sniper Sites

I would not waste my time with 1. Autosurfs and 2. Screensaver traffic Im sure your not looking at those ads when your cranking in credits and I am sure everyone else is not as well plus you always have your list of cheaters that use these sites to.

What works quick and produces over time is what is called Viral marketing. It takes a ton of work to do everything yourself but when you have others to back you up it make it that much better.

Option 1: Create an ebook and inside it give away a bit of information for free. Within it include your information for your opt in page for them to get even more information. Then spread it like wildfire over mininova and other like sites but mininova is a must as many other torrent directories feed from it.

Option 2: Have a product that you sell for money? Offer 1 or 5 free membership to it just for opting in to your page.

Option 3: Create an event and spread it on facebook and other like social networking sites. Have them optin to gain more information about what you are going to be speaking about or releasing on a certain date.

Option 4: On facebook? Add an opt in form to your facebook profile via MyHTML application.

Option 5: Give away events. Get a product in there for free in exchange for their information. These events produce some good numbers if you get your products in there early. Recommended site no affiliate New JV Giveaway Events This guy is really on top of his stuff here from what I have seen over the last 3 months

Hi,
Interesting thread.

The money is in the list........ what list? i know some who have thousands on their own list yet make zippity in sales so that is a non responsive list.

on the other hand there are people with only a few hundred and rake in lots of cash=responsive list.

It is not about the size but the quality and responsiveness of the herd that makes the difference. here is something you could do track your mailing. see what percent of them open the mail. one you know then you will know exactly what motivates them to click. so you target the list with opportunities or offers. i don't recommend other people's services in fact i have only done so once. just a few days ago for a fellow warrior who is struggling at the moment. however. if you can target your list with things that are helpful useful and not outrageously priced your list will become more responsive when you post your first targeted offer again track the email and see if they don't open up in a higher percentage if you give them something they need or have a desire in you will build a responsive list 20 folks a day signing up is great if 15 of the 20 buy something a huge list is meaningless if the herd doesn't produce cash.

-WD

Have you tried any of the following to build your list:

Twitter
Articles
Video Marketing
Press Releases
Adswaps
Giveaways

article marketing
twitter
video podcasting
give aways
forum traffic

finally ad swaps

Thank you.

Good post this. Getting a lot of info from it

joint ventures / adswaps is the best way to go, find users related to your niche that are willing to swap links, make sure their list size is close to yours.

One of the fastest way's that anybody can build a targeted list, and still make money by selling an affiliate program, is by conducting an interview with a relevant product owner in your niche. The main target is to do this with a new product lanuch coming out.

Just start doing interview's with other people in your niche, then have them promote the interview to there list. The person gets content for there list, you build a list and sell the affiliate program.

I find the sign ups from giveaways are usually pretty unresponsive. Probably because they've no doubt signed up to several lists at the same time.

Forum posting and ppc are great. For ppc write lots and lots of ads aimed at the content network with under 0.09ish cents as your max click cost. I find this will get you many ads that don't perform but 1 out of say 8-10 will jump out of the screen and get heaps of clicks for cheap!

Thanks Glenh. I'll check it out. Good to see another Ozi boy!

Hi, Victoria

Congratulations on your progress! Keep up the good work...

Listbuilding for me is a blended offline/online effort. I offer free content, digital products, teleseminars, workshops, etc to offline organizations (nonprofits, industry associations, clubs, etc) that are in my niche/target market. I direct that traffic to my squeeze page.

Online I use a "multi-layered" approach primarily using social networking, free classified ads, viral videos, article marketing, and blogging.

Hope that helps!

Try to give Free 5 to 7 parts course instead of ebook...

We just got one thread on importance of forum sig, so when you get your list up don't forget to put link in signature.

Post a WSO on this forum will help you add a bunch of free opt-ins. I have heard people adding hundreds too their list by posting a $20 WSO.

There is a lot of excellent advice in this thread.

I think it's great that you are actually DOING something already to get 20 opt-ins a day. That's over 7,000 a year. As others mentioned, though, quality is much more important than quantity - BUT if you can do both, that's pure gold!

All the best,
Michael

SIDE NOTE: I just noticed your name is V. Gates! I'm guessing you've heard it many times, but being a fan of languages, I couldn't help but say something. (For those that wonder what the heck I'm talking about... "How are you?" in the informal German is "Wie gehts?" - Pronounced V. Gates)

use below techiniques :

1. The "Specific Date" Technique
2. The "So Many Minutes" Technique
3. The "Here's Your Lesson" Technique
4. The "E-Report" Technique
5. The "Tease Me" Technique
6. The "Great Deal" Technique
7. The "JV Discount" Technique
8. The "Worth It?" Technique
9. The "Virus" Technique
10. The "Swipe Them" Technique
11. The "Republish It" Technique
12. The "Future Goals" Technique
13. The "Future Problems" Technique
14. The "Prize Fest" Technique
15. The "Las Vegas" Technique
16. The "Fast Forward" Technique
17. The "See It Everywhere" Technique
18. The "Multiple Choice" Technique
19. The "My Credentials" Technique
20. The "Confidentiality Agreement" Technique
21. The "100% Pure" Technique
22. The "Look Who's Here" Technique
23. The "Believe Them" Technique
24. The "Collect Them All" Technique
25. The "Next Time" Technique
26. The "Ad Less" Technique
27. The "Give Me Them" Technique
28. The "Swap Me" Technique
29. The "Got Friends?" Technique
30. The "It's Worth" Technique
31. The "Targeted Flirt" Technique
32. The "Give It Away" Technique
33. The "Try A Piece" Technique
34. The "See The Past" Technique
35. The "Waiting List" Technique
36. The "Unsubscribe" Technique
37. The "E-mail Me" Technique
38. The "Keep It Free" Technique
39. The "I'll Pay You" Technique
40. The "Easy Form" Technique
41. The "Budget It" Technique
42. The "Subscribers-Only" Technique
43. The "Barter Everything" Technique
44. The "I'll Be There" Technique
45. The "My Advice" Technique
46. The "Snooze You Lose" Technique
47. The "Famous Guest" Technique
48. The "Skim It" Technique
49. The "Full Of Help" Technique
50. The "Total Them Up" Technique
51. The "A Long Time" Technique
52. The "Personal Touch" Technique
53. The "Gift Subscription" Technique
54. The "Work Involved" Technique
55. The "Goes Both Ways" Technique
56. The "What You Missed" Technique
57. The "Only Mine" Technique
58. The "Stay Current" Technique
59. The "Why Subscribe?" Technique
60. The "How Often?" Technique
61. The "Cold Hard Facts" Technique
62. The "Battle Tested" Technique
63. The "Autograph" Technique
64. The "Ratio Of Visitors" Technique
65. The "Plenty Of Ways" Technique
66. The "How To" Technique
67. The "Top Ten" Technique
68. The "Tip Me" Technique
69. The "Recent News" Technique
70. The "Interview" Technique
71. The "Product Review" Technique
72. The "Web Site Review" Technique
73. The "Personal Profile" Technique
74. The "Word Game" Technique
75. The "Samples Of Products" Technique
76. The "Checklist" Technique
77. The "Calendar Of Events" Technique
78. The "Q And A" Technique
79. The "First Shot" Technique
80. The "Community Gossip" Technique
81. The "Transcripts" Technique
82. The "Questionnaire" Technique
83. The "Free Advertising" Technique
84. The "People Care" Technique
85. The "Common Sense" Technique
86. The "Private Access" Technique
87. The "Product For Ad" Technique
88. The "Viral Article" Technique
89. The "Opt-In Auction" Technique
90. The "Listen To Me" Technique
91. The "Watch Me" Technique
92. The "Keyword Clicking" Technique
93. The "Free Directory" Technique
94. The "Customer Reminder" Technique
95. The "Discount An E-mail" Technique
96. The "Offline Myth" Technique
97. The "Free Compliment" Technique
98. The "Back You Up" Technique
99. The "I'll Share" Technique
100. The "Publish And Grow" Technique

Set up a free autoresponder course. I've had great luck in getting new signups by giving away a free course. You can then "graduate" them over to your main list at the end.

a lot of people here are advocating using ad swaps, i dont have a list yet is it still possible to do an ad swap, i have a squeeze page and a free report to giveaway, or would it be better to start with article marketing and listjoe??

Ivan,

It depends on the situation. Sometimes they are on the main list. Most get the course first because I'm not one to send out a barrage of offers. For the ones that get a single mailing between one of the course installments, they don't seem to mind. Most people know that's part of the "free" model.

In other cases I invite them to go beyond the narrow scope of the course and subscribe to another less restrictive (topic-wise) list.

Sometimes I offer an incentive to subscribe to the main list.

I try lots of stuff. Lots of stuff works! People get boxed in by "do it like this" instructions and seem to forget to implement their own creativity and ideas. Right now I don't have any courses set up because I'm going to be making some fairly big changes. In a few months I'll put them back to use because frankly, it works great!

Authority websites can be effective tools, with a nice newsletter or offer. Perhaps even a blog.

Just like Perry Marshall said...
"Cheap and Free are your ENEMY, not your friend. Adwords is the most evolved form of advertising known to man. There is not even a close second."

Target the right demographic and audience and the right key words... and if your squeeze page is that good... it will convert with pay per click ads.

Good luck!
Dan

Hi

I have done pretty well with viralurl.com

[QUOTE=journeyforself;1516231]I am building my list,
It is growing by 20 people a day,
but I want to do better than that...QUOTE]

Hi, There are thousands of way's to market online. There are just a few that I found very interesting. I have tested many way's in I discoverd that these way's work great for me. My best day was one day when I generated 412 new subscribers with 4 different way's of marketing.

My advice to would be to use video, article, forum marketing and Pay Per View Marketing.

Always look for way's to make your squeeze page better so that you can convert your traffic into signup's.

Please let me know if this info has been helping you to build your list bigger

Have a wonderfull day,

Amin Lelieveld