How many do you launch in a month?

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I was on a webinar last night hosted by Paul Evans from nicheology. I enjoyed the content, but one thing stood out in my mind, that I'd like to see in my own business in 2010.

His goal is to put out 5 products per month. Of course the first one is the toughest and has he greaest learning curve. But when I think of it it is just a rinse and repeat process.

1. Niche research and selection
2. Product creation
3. Lead capture and sales process

I am making this one of my goals n 2010. 5 products per month.
I'm just curious to know how the rest of the info/product creators space out he launching of new products to market.
#infomarketers #infopreneur #launch #month #product launches
  • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
    On average over the last year I've probably
    created about 4 info products per month. The
    amount of time I spend on each one is dependant
    of how long it takes to start making it profitable.

    Sometimes I can create a product, squeeze page
    and free bonus offer, e-mail marketing follow up
    and the main sales page within a few days due
    having templates and systems all in place.

    Creating and tweaking the PPC campaigns for each
    info product usually takes a 2 days followed by
    continuous tweaks every morning.
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      Originally Posted by Steve Ranger View Post

      On average over the last year I've probably
      created about 4 info products per month. The
      amount of time I spend on each one is dependant
      of how long it takes to start making it profitable.

      Sometimes I can create a product, squeeze page
      and free bonus offer, e-mail marketing follow up
      and the main sales page within a few days due
      having templates and systems all in place.

      Creating and tweaking the PPC campaigns for each
      info product usually takes a 2 days followed by
      continuous tweaks every morning.
      thanks Steve, that's what I figured, once the system is in place and templates are ready to be used it can be more streamlined?

      You get traffic through ppc, do you have affiliates?
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    • Profile picture of the author rondo
      Originally Posted by Steve Ranger View Post

      On average over the last year I've probably
      created about 4 info products per month. The
      amount of time I spend on each one is dependant
      of how long it takes to start making it profitable.

      Sometimes I can create a product, squeeze page
      and free bonus offer, e-mail marketing follow up
      and the main sales page within a few days due
      having templates and systems all in place.

      Creating and tweaking the PPC campaigns for each
      info product usually takes a 2 days followed by
      continuous tweaks every morning.
      Wow that's a lot.

      Do you manage them all with your own ecommerce system, or do you use Clickbank?

      Thanks,
      Andrew
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
        Originally Posted by rondo View Post

        Wow that's a lot.

        Do you manage them all with your own ecommerce system, or do you use Clickbank?

        Thanks,
        Andrew
        First of all it is always just a basic PayPal payment
        link - the easiest way to receive payments. If I
        feel a product has bigger potential I'll try and move
        it over to Clickbank for affiliate support. But like I
        said I haven't got many affiliates

        It's all automated so I'm not sending out these
        info products manually. The only tasks once it's up
        is making sure the PPC traffic is high and converting,
        and answering the odd support question relating to
        the product.

        All free time is spent adjusting the sales funnels
        on previous products and creating new ones. Once
        you have a system set up and automated (for
        example all e-mail marketing is automated) then
        you can usually sit back and relax for a second or 2
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
    Hey ant, the traffic through is PPC. The
    percentage of sales through affiliates is about
    5% which isn't good enough to be honest. I
    need to focus on that more.

    I've learnt after creating so many info
    products that the best way to find out if you
    have a winner or not is by just throwing
    targeted traffic at your new creation as soon
    as possible - I'll spend 50GBP before making
    major changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Snap
    I believe in one great product instead of many. Still this method has its own drawbacks. Even big marketers launch maximum of 2 products per months.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Ranger
      Originally Posted by Snap View Post

      I believe in one great product instead of many. Still this method has its own drawbacks. Even big marketers launch maximum of 2 products per months.
      Ha Ha I never said my products weren't great

      Do whatever suits you I guess.
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      • Profile picture of the author Snap
        Originally Posted by Steve Ranger View Post

        Ha Ha I never said my products weren't great

        Do whatever suits you I guess.
        I never said that too. All I said is if you have a mindset of creating 20 products a month, you cannot concentrate on one single product specifically. You just need to create and move on. But if you produce less products you can concentrate on them more which sometimes can be more profitable than 20 products combined. In the end you save lot of time and stay focused.

        But yes as I already said, there are few drawbacks in this method. And like you said, Do whatever suits you.
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  • Profile picture of the author n8
    My goal for 2010 is to do 2 products per month. I started on this goal in nov, hopefully my hard work pays off here soon......
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
    Not enough. Currently, I'm in preparations to launch my very first information product.
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      Originally Posted by Johnathan View Post

      Not enough. Currently, I'm in preparations to launch my very first information product.
      Not enough is right for me too...: ). But now is a better time THan ever to turn it around. I'm also launching a product very soon.

      It is very important to set goals and stck by them. Whether it's 1,2 or 5 products a month is irrelevant. As long as your sticking to the plan that you laid out for yourself.

      Here's to Building a sustainable infomarketing business in 2010!
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  • Profile picture of the author darman82
    wow.. i think i will stik on affiliate marketing next year cause i think you all still need us ( affiliate ) to help you promote the product, right?

    congratulation for all of you, hope you all success with your own product launch.

    Andrian
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      Originally Posted by Andrianwurich View Post

      wow.. i think i will stik on affiliate marketing next year cause i think you all still need us ( affiliate ) to help you promote the product, right?

      congratulation for all of you, hope you all success with your own product launch.

      Andrian

      Thank you Andrian and yes all these info products will need affiliates promoting them. Hope to work with you soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcom
    I agree with adrian, I am going to focus on being successful at Aff Marketing for now. I have spent too long chasing my tail, and not focusing on one thing to make it successful.
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    • Profile picture of the author ic7
      One per month for me. My products take a bit longer because I actually go out and do everything I teach. I don't make "theory" products. Also, I always strive to come up with unique methods and new ways. And I always want my newest product to be even better than the previous.

      Originally Posted by Andrianwurich View Post

      wow.. i think i will stik on affiliate marketing next year cause i think you all still need us ( affiliate ) to help you promote the product, right?
      Much love.

      Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
        Originally Posted by ic7 View Post

        One per month for me. My products take a bit longer because I actually go out and do everything I teach. I don't make "theory" products. Also, I always strive to come up with unique methods and new ways. And I always want my newest product to be even better than the previous.



        Much love.

        Paul

        Are you producing products in the IM niche or is that how you go about your other niches as well.

        I would think that if it's not a "make money" method than you can provide value by doing the research that your customer is willing to pay for in your book or report.
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        • Profile picture of the author ic7
          Originally Posted by ant_arias View Post

          Are you producing products in the IM niche or is that how you go about your other niches as well.

          I would think that if it's not a "make money" method than you can provide value by doing the research that your customer is willing to pay for in your book or report.
          Really good question. I recently bought an ebook from Sitepoint. I love and respect SP, but I noticed something interesting. The ebook was mostly theory. It was written like a lot of textbooks are written. In other words, the guy writing it is giving good advice, but not from his own experience.

          When you have direct experience, you can say to the reader: Go to this link, work with this guy, he does amazing work, he won't let you down. Instead of saying: You should definitely have an ecover made for your product.

          I see the theory guides as the old way. For instance, having a big intro in an ebook that only slows the reader down. And Sitepoint has a variety of guides; some old way, some new, some mixed.

          Their PHP guides are right from the Coder's mouth. Right to the point, let's get to work. They also have a Photoshop guide that is written by a Photoshop guru, BUT she writes in the old textbook style. Big intros that have little to do with getting something done in PS. In other words, intros about the importance of graphics, the history of such and such.

          For a Photoshop guru who writes in the new way and still teaches you why Photoshop is doing what it's doing: Ben Willmore. You will be creating stuff in PS from page 1. And you will learn the underlying mechanics of PS, color theory, etc.

          So it's also a matter of style. We have smart people who are no nonsense about getting things done, but when they set out to write a guide, they look back to the old textbooks that they read in school and defer to that style. Maybe it seems more official or substantial to them. It is very strange.

          Most of my products are IM, but the product I am currently working on is in a new direction. And I am using the same methods of direct experience. I see it as the only way for a product to have power, to be actionable, and memorable.

          Paul
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          • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
            I understand what your saying, but do you feel that it hinders your production at all? It seems to be impossible to become an expert in every niche that you create products for. From what I'm learning, the goal is to know a little more than those that are using your product, and that research doesn't take very long.

            I'm definitely not saying that it is right to go out and say that I'm making $xxxxx with the xyz system and never have even tried it, but there has to be a line drawn in the sand somewhere I believe.

            Thanks to everyone for sharing there opinions on this as there seems to be passionate people on both sides of the fence.

            Originally Posted by ic7 View Post

            Really good question. I recently bought an ebook from Sitepoint. I love and respect SP, but I noticed something interesting. The ebook was mostly theory. It was written like a lot of textbooks are written. In other words, the guy writing it is giving good advice, but not from his own experience.

            When you have direct experience, you can say to the reader: Go to this link, work with this guy, he does amazing work, he won't let you down. Instead of saying: You should definitely have an ecover made for your product.

            I see the theory guides as the old way. For instance, having a big intro in an ebook that only slows the reader down. And Sitepoint has a variety of guides; some old way, some new, some mixed.

            Their PHP guides are right from the Coder's mouth. Right to the point, let's get to work. They also have a Photoshop guide that is written by a Photoshop guru, BUT she writes in the old textbook style. Big intros that have little to do with getting something done in PS. In other words, intros about the importance of graphics, the history of such and such.

            For a Photoshop guru who writes in the new way and still teaches you why Photoshop is doing what it's doing: Ben Willmore. You will be creating stuff in PS from page 1. And you will learn the underlying mechanics of PS, color theory, etc.

            So it's also a matter of style. We have smart people who are no nonsense about getting things done, but when they set out to write a guide, they look back to the old textbooks that they read in school and defer to that style. Maybe it seems more official or substantial to them. It is very strange.

            Most of my products are IM, but the product I am currently working on is in a new direction. And I am using the same methods of direct experience. I see it as the only way for a product to have power, to be actionable, and memorable.

            Paul
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            • Profile picture of the author ic7
              Originally Posted by ant_arias View Post

              I understand what your saying, but do you feel that it hinders your production at all?
              It took me a long time to figure this out: If you dig really deep and come up with something unique, you can come up with multiple quality products from that one well. [Of course, there's an element of luck in finding that well.]

              So you take 3 aspects of the one unique idea, and you create 3 substantial products. Not just spinoffs or afterthoughts, but 3 strong products that could stand on their own.

              Paul
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      • Profile picture of the author webwriter
        Originally Posted by ic7 View Post

        One per month for me. My products take a bit longer because I actually go out and do everything I teach. I don't make "theory" products. Also, I always strive to come up with unique methods and new ways. And I always want my newest product to be even better than the previous.



        Much love.

        Paul
        Neither do I. And it can be very time consuming, but worth it in the end. Btw, I'm completing my very first product. Hope that I can increase the number of products to two or three per month though.
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        • Profile picture of the author ic7
          Originally Posted by webwriter View Post

          Neither do I. And it can be very time consuming, but worth it in the end. Btw, I'm completing my very first product. Hope that I can increase the number of products to two or three per month though.
          I agree, def worth it. If you max out on a product, you'll have breakthroughs. You can go into new territory on your current and next project. Best of luck on your project!

          Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    That many products a month? Wow!

    Looks like some people play the game differently

    I would say one a month for me. Then I promote as an affiliate to my buyers list.

    Interesting though, how do you keep track of that many products?
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    We created 621 new products in 2009. There is still one day so there might be a couple more created today or tomorrow.

    That works out to 51.75 per month. Our business did $7.1 million in 2009 (not counting today or tomorrow, but I doubt we'll do another $100K in the next two days).

    It works out to about $11,500 per SKU.

    But some companies do that revenue with a single product. Other companies add thousands of SKUs per year with the same revenue.

    I suspect that if we took the effort that it took to create 2 skus per day (almost) and put it into improving web-sites or increasing traffic that we would have had about the same results until we got to the extreme ends of the spectrum (creating less than two new products per month or something like that).
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    • Profile picture of the author rondo
      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      We created 621 new products in 2009. There is still one day so there might be a couple more created today or tomorrow.

      That works out to 51.75 per month. Our business did $7.1 million in 2009 (not counting today or tomorrow, but I doubt we'll do another $100K in the next two days).

      It works out to about $11,500 per SKU.

      But some companies do that revenue with a single product. Other companies add thousands of SKUs per year with the same revenue.

      I suspect that if we took the effort that it took to create 2 skus per day (almost) and put it into improving web-sites or increasing traffic that we would have had about the same results until we got to the extreme ends of the spectrum (creating less than two new products per month or something like that).
      Are these all info products? How do you come up with the product ideas?

      Thanks,
      Andrew
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      That's a serious info business. I would love to hear more about how you go about doing this and how many members are on your team.


      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      We created 621 new products in 2009. There is still one day so there might be a couple more created today or tomorrow.

      That works out to 51.75 per month. Our business did $7.1 million in 2009 (not counting today or tomorrow, but I doubt we'll do another $100K in the next two days).

      It works out to about $11,500 per SKU.

      But some companies do that revenue with a single product. Other companies add thousands of SKUs per year with the same revenue.

      I suspect that if we took the effort that it took to create 2 skus per day (almost) and put it into improving web-sites or increasing traffic that we would have had about the same results until we got to the extreme ends of the spectrum (creating less than two new products per month or something like that).
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      We created 621 new products in 2009. There is still one day so there might be a couple more created today or tomorrow.

      That works out to 51.75 per month. Our business did $7.1 million in 2009 (not counting today or tomorrow, but I doubt we'll do another $100K in the next two days).

      It works out to about $11,500 per SKU.

      But some companies do that revenue with a single product. Other companies add thousands of SKUs per year with the same revenue.

      I suspect that if we took the effort that it took to create 2 skus per day (almost) and put it into improving web-sites or increasing traffic that we would have had about the same results until we got to the extreme ends of the spectrum (creating less than two new products per month or something like that).
      These figures are a real wake up call for me. Id be interested in learning more -- that is of course if you're willing to share.
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      • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
        Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

        These figures are a real wake up call for me. Id be interested in learning more -- that is of course if you're willing to share.
        Yeah, wake up call is not the word. I'm all about positive thinking and thinking big, but never realized this model could be scaled to that degree. I guess the the statement that were only limited by the limits we put in our own minds is true.

        I'd love to learn more about how this was developed into such a large scale business.

        Anthony
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    • Profile picture of the author cathyanderson
      Kristi Daniels,

      How much of what you do is outsourced? How many people to you actually have as "employees" in house?

      Thanks for the great posts, it really hits home with me.

      Cathy
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    My goal for 2010 is to have 4 large products completed. Last year I had 0, so Im working my way up
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    Andrew,

    Most are information products. We have a few skus that are supplements or foods, but I would say that over 95% are information products.

    Ideas? Everyone has ideas. They are a dime a dozen. That's the easiest part. Just ask your customers if your team has run out of ideas.

    Our "idea" list or "to do" list only grows. It never shrinks. Most people find that they will never get to all fo their ideas in a life-time.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    I'm small potatos.

    I've heard of several launches for a single information product that did more than I do in a year in a single week.

    One of my main competitors does 300 million a year and they are 100% information products with no exceptions.

    Small thinking in this business leads to small results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    I don't want to seem disrespectful but when I read this thread and see 5 products/month, 10 , 20 etc... first thing that comes to my mind is "junk".

    Maybe its just me but how much value (and I mean VALUE) do you really provide if you roll out products like that?
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    People trade dollars for that amount of value.

    If people willingly and happily give you $591,669.42 per month in return for what you give them, then you have produced $591,669.42 per month in value.

    Quantity has no relationship whatsoever with quality or value. You can sell a million pieces of junk or a million high value products. The quantity doesn't have any relationship with the quality at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    For me, personally, it does...because you can never convince me that 1 of your products provides as much value and help to a customer as a product that has been in the works for several weeks/months, the information in it was put to the test with a small group of prospects, then the product was refined based on those results and then released.

    Not to say that your products don't help people or stuff...its just that I consider that by releasing so many of them so fast you can't possibly have the time/resources to test everything out-get feedback-refine-release.

    Maybe its just my mindset, but if it works for you fine...I'm not to one to tell you what to do and what not.
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      The problem here is your not thinking big. Think out of the box for a minute and look at how large corporations structure there businesses. Better yet, look at franchises.

      It's all about duplication and replication. How else can you scale bigger? You have to be able to grow and hire a staff that you've trained to do things the way you want. Just because there being churned out very often doesn't mean that they aren't doing all the necessary testing and tweaking.

      It just means that you have a system in place that allows this.




      Originally Posted by Marian Berghes View Post

      For me, personally, it does...because you can never convince me that 1 of your products provides as much value and help to a customer as a product that has been in the works for several weeks/months, the information in it was put to the test with a small group of prospects, then the product was refined based on those results and then released.

      Not to say that your products don't help people or stuff...its just that I consider that by releasing so many of them so fast you can't possibly have the time/resources to test everything out-get feedback-refine-release.

      Maybe its just my mindset, but if it works for you fine...I'm not to one to tell you what to do and what not.
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      Originally Posted by Marian Berghes View Post

      For me, personally, it does...because you can never convince me that 1 of your products provides as much value and help to a customer as a product that has been in the works for several weeks/months, the information in it was put to the test with a small group of prospects, then the product was refined based on those results and then released.

      Not to say that your products don't help people or stuff...its just that I consider that by releasing so many of them so fast you can't possibly have the time/resources to test everything out-get feedback-refine-release.

      Maybe its just my mindset, but if it works for you fine...I'm not to one to tell you what to do and what not.
      I think maybe you're missing a vital piece of the puzzle here...

      Outsourcing!

      If you are outsourcing each step of the process you can very simply release a product or two a day - all you are doing is supervising the outsourcers - which is a much quicker process than actually doing all the work yourself.
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      • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
        Originally Posted by NewbiesDiary View Post

        I think maybe you're missing a vital piece of the puzzle here...

        Outsourcing!

        If you are outsourcing each step of the process you can very simply release a product or two a day - all you are doing is supervising the outsourcers - which is a much quicker process than actually doing all the work yourself.
        You've hit the nail on the head. You have to have a team in lace in order to scale this. Once you've developed your system, then you can train others to do time consuming tasks, while you focus your efforts on marketing the products.

        Anthony
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  • Profile picture of the author candacemevis23
    I am just focusing to sell atleast 1 product in a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
    Here's a really great tip to help you launch products even faster. Rather than paying big bucks to have some write a sales letter for you or writing one yourself do a video sales letter. Just make a nice short cam video outlining what the members are getting in the package they are purchasing. This has proved to cut down launch time dramatically!
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  • Profile picture of the author mariochase
    I wouldn't launch multiple products every month.

    I want to have a complete and more focused time in one product.
    Only this can make me 3x times more... and in that sense I don't
    need to worry about 3 sales letter, 3 websites, 3 different types
    of customers.

    That is just too crazy.

    Only launch more than 1 product... if it's multiple frontends for a
    backend.

    I could be wrong.. but I think it's too much work.. and the money
    compensation is not that big.
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      Mario, I don't disagree with you when starting out such as I am in the info product business. But as I said before it's all about having a proper system in place otherwise you can't grow. Isn't that the goal to scale a business model to it's utmost potential?

      KristiDaniels, really opened my eyes to the potential here. Not saying that this is an overnight process, but it shows me how big this can actually be. To me this is about putting out products that offer value to your customers, rinsing and repeating.

      With a proper system in place there is no correlation between producing multiple products and Junk.




      Originally Posted by mariochase View Post

      I wouldn't launch multiple products every month.

      I want to have a complete and more focused time in one product.
      Only this can make me 3x times more... and in that sense I don't
      need to worry about 3 sales letter, 3 websites, 3 different types
      of customers.

      That is just too crazy.

      Only launch more than 1 product... if it's multiple frontends for a
      backend.

      I could be wrong.. but I think it's too much work.. and the money
      compensation is not that big.
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  • Profile picture of the author Artem
    Originally Posted by ant_arias View Post

    I was on a webinar last night hosted by Paul Evans from nicheology. I enjoyed the content, but one thing stood out in my mind, that I'd like to see in my own business in 2010.

    His goal is to put out 5 products per month. Of course the first one is the toughest and has he greaest learning curve. But when I think of it it is just a rinse and repeat process.

    1. Niche research and selection
    2. Product creation
    3. Lead capture and sales process

    I am making this one of my goals n 2010. 5 products per month.
    I'm just curious to know how the rest of the info/product creators space out he launching of new products to market.
    I'm about to launch my first product in a few days. Very excited for it.

    If it goes good, then I will think about launching more. I know it's all about offering value to the visitors. Sometimes a one page report has more value than a 100 page report if you think about it.

    Good luck with your product launches. Just keep at it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      Good luck with your launch, I hope to be write behind you in the next week or 2.
      You're right, about the 1 page report vs. 100 page report. quality is quality.



      Originally Posted by Artem View Post

      I'm about to launch my first product in a few days. Very excited for it.

      If it goes good, then I will think about launching more. I know it's all about offering value to the visitors. Sometimes a one page report has more value than a 100 page report if you think about it.

      Good luck with your product launches. Just keep at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author thescribe
    I focus on releasing quality products. With that being said, I try to complete at least 2 per month...
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick O
    How right you are, the first product was very very hard to get off the ground for me. It took me a few months just to get started.
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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      Originally Posted by Nick O View Post

      How right you are, the first product was very very hard to get off the ground for me. It took me a few months just to get started.
      Nick, I'm working through this learning curve and from what I can see is that it's a process that is basically repeated for each launch, minus any product specific things that need to get done.

      With that reasoning I'd say that the first is definitely the toughest.

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  • Profile picture of the author leigho
    I would say that quality over quantity is the way to go get a small amount of sites making money by matching the product your selling to a laser targeted audience, message to market match before ramping things up
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    • Profile picture of the author petedw
      Originally Posted by leigho View Post

      I would say that quality over quantity is the way to go get a small amount of sites making money by matching the product your selling to a laser targeted audience, message to market match before ramping things up
      I have to agree with the quote abouve. I'd concentrate more on Quality over quantity.
      If you sell only quality products then the list of customers you build should think highly of you and that way, when you recommened future products they are more likely to buy.

      On the otherhand, if you are capable of lauching a large number of quality products, then that would certainly be the way to go. Generating enough quality traffic to each product takes time though so you shouldn't be able to launch a huge number of products on your own.

      Get yourself a partner or 2, joint ventures etc to enable you to get more work done each day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Thing is: as soon as you launch your first one, 10 will follow along. That's just the nature of it.

    1 - How to Clean Your Home
    2 - Best Products to Clean Your Home
    3 - How to Clean Your Home Faster
    4 - How to Grab Low Cost Home Cleaners
    etc etc

    Just keep on selling to previous buyers.
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    • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
      How many products you launch a month doesn't necessarily tell how long you've been working on any particular product. Maybe the process flow is to start working on Product C this month in January and launch in June all the while, you're launching product A that you started in August and product B is easier to complete, so even though you started working on it in December, it can still launch next month.

      Ug! I'm getting dizzy just thinking about it, which also brings the point that you have to know your own capabilities when attempting to create and launch multiple products. Will you be doing all the work yourself or with a team? What kind of bandwidth does that team have to work on all these products?

      Don't be so envious or skeptical of others who launch whatever hundred products a month. They just have a different team than you do.
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      • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
        Originally Posted by lerxtjr View Post

        How many products you launch a month doesn't necessarily tell how long you've been working on any particular product. Maybe the process flow is to start working on Product C this month in January and launch in June all the while, you're launching product A that you started in August and product B is easier to complete, so even though you started working on it in December, it can still launch next month.

        Ug! I'm getting dizzy just thinking about it, which also brings the point that you have to know your own capabilities when attempting to create and launch multiple products. Will you be doing all the work yourself or with a team? What kind of bandwidth does that team have to work on all these products?

        Don't be so envious or skeptical of others who launch whatever hundred products a month. They just have a different team than you do.

        Exactly what I was thinking. Just because you launch multiple products, that doesn't tell you how Long they've been in development.

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    • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Thing is: as soon as you launch your first one, 10 will follow along. That's just the nature of it.

      1 - How to Clean Your Home
      2 - Best Products to Clean Your Home
      3 - How to Clean Your Home Faster
      4 - How to Grab Low Cost Home Cleaners
      etc etc

      Just keep on selling to previous buyers.
      Great point, it creates a nice cycle that can last a long time as long as you treat your customers properly.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    What are SKU's??
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      Originally Posted by ramone_johnny View Post

      What are SKU's??
      You know, I meant to ask that earlier as well. Curious to know myself.
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      • Profile picture of the author ant_arias
        Just copied this from answers. Com

        SKU is stock keeping unit. Every product is given a unit in which it is accounted
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    A SKU is just a product ID number.

    Books have ISBN (International Standard Book Number) numbers or EAN (European something Number) numbers. Retail products have UPC (Universal Product Code) or EAN numbers on the bar codes. Anything sold on Amazon has a ASIN (Amazon Standard ID Number).

    The term "SKU" is just a generic way of saying any of the above. If you want to say how many products you have or how many products you created, you could be ambiguous if you said you create 150 books, 400 CDs, 15 bottled supplements.

    Those aren't really products. A product might be a home study course that includes 12 CDs and 3 books. Or two bottles of supplements that are to be taken together.

    The univerally accepted way of saying how many products you have (in any real business) is by saying how many "SKUs" you have. A SKU is a number. It might be an internal number like Amazon creates with their ASIN. Or if you are a retailer, it might be the number of unique UPC barcoded products you care.

    But in the database, a SKU is the unique ID number you use internally to define each product. You can lookup a product description and a price at the minimum in any real business given the SKU.

    It probably is important to learn basic business acumen and drop the unique IM terminology if you intend to have a real business. The term "SKU" is the term that all of your vendors will understand. It has an actual definition that is universally accepted.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    As I said, we are actually small potatoes.

    I know of a single digital download product that did $21 million in 2008. That was only about 15% of their business. The copywriter for that product hangs out here on the Warrior forum and you know them well. They are just private about what they do and where.

    Another company I know well has routinely done $200-$300 million per year for several years now. They are discussed here on the Warrior forum routinely.

    Another company I know did $1 million in their first day of launching a new product aimed AT only Warrior forum members.

    Yet another company with a Warrior at it's head has done multiple 8 figure launches in their first week ($10 million or more per product in that product's first week).

    Another business owner I know on the Internet runs a website with 20%-30% conversion ratios and nearly all of their traffic comes from affiliates who are Warrior members does over $100 million per year.

    Those are just business that I know have contacts here in the Warrior world. When you get out of the Warrior world, you can see that 99% of online businesses have never even heard of the term "Internet Marketing" and do some really astounding numbers from my perspective.

    Turning out a little less than two SKUs a day with a $7million/year business is considered "ma and pa" playing to most of the top 10,000 Alexa businesses. They don't consider it a real business until you hit the $10 million/year mark.

    But you can't do that with the mentality of asking "Can I use free blogspot blogs instead of buying my own domain?" or "What is the best form of 'free' traffic?" or "Do Squidoo lenses still work?" or "What are the best article directories?"

    And you really do need enough business accumen to at least know what is meant by a SKU. Get out of the forums and start hanging out with some real business men and your local networking meetings. Every city has a group of real businessmen who meet weekly or monthly. Hang out with the business people who have achieved what you want to achieve.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      As I said, we are actually small potatoes.

      I know of a single digital download product that did $21 million in 2008. That was only about 15% of their business. The copywriter for that product hangs out here on the Warrior forum and you know them well. They are just private about what they do and where.

      Another company I know well has routinely done $200-$300 million per year for several years now. They are discussed here on the Warrior forum routinely.

      Another company I know did $1 million in their first day of launching a new product aimed AT only Warrior forum members.

      Yet another company with a Warrior at it's head has done multiple 8 figure launches in their first week ($10 million or more per product in that product's first week).

      Another business owner I know on the Internet runs a website with 20%-30% conversion ratios and nearly all of their traffic comes from affiliates who are Warrior members does over $100 million per year.

      Those are just business that I know have contacts here in the Warrior world. When you get out of the Warrior world, you can see that 99% of online businesses have never even heard of the term "Internet Marketing" and do some really astounding numbers from my perspective.

      Turning out a little less than two SKUs a day with a $7million/year business is considered "ma and pa" playing to most of the top 10,000 Alexa businesses. They don't consider it a real business until you hit the $10 million/year mark.

      But you can't do that with the mentality of asking "Can I use free blogspot blogs instead of buying my own domain?" or "What is the best form of 'free' traffic?" or "Do Squidoo lenses still work?" or "What are the best article directories?"

      And you really do need enough business accumen to at least know what is meant by a SKU. Get out of the forums and start hanging out with some real business men and your local networking meetings. Every city has a group of real businessmen who meet weekly or monthly. Hang out with the business people who have achieved what you want to achieve.
      Wow, so many questions.

      Id like to learn more about your story

      Thanks for sharing what you have already - I appreciate it.
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    By the way - I was THAT inspired by your post yesterday Ive put it on my desktop as a reminder to THINK BIG.

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    • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
      But you can't do that with the mentality of asking "Can I use free blogspot blogs instead of buying my own domain?" or "What is the best form of 'free' traffic?" or "Do Squidoo lenses still work?" or "What are the best article directories?"

      And you really do need enough business accumen to at least know what is meant by a SKU. Get out of the forums and start hanging out with some real business men and your local networking meetings. Every city has a group of real businessmen who meet weekly or monthly. Hang out with the business people who have achieved what you want to achieve.
      Ha, I just started paying attention to the war room a few days ago and actively replying to posts and have to say that statement above should be in the header of warrior forum so that EVERYONE sees it. It's so true. [Raising fists in the air shouting YES YES!!]
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
    Every single month... I launch....

    Not a damned thing. Haha! I'd like to start making new books every month or something along those lines, but I'm unsure how I'd do it and what information I'd use to make it. Its something I'm definitely looking into.

    30 products out there at once, 1 sale a day each, $20 per sale, that would make me at least $600 a day. And that would be absolutely awesome.

    SO, Working on it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Hengster
    I am in the process of making my first product as well. I have a partnership with a friend who is writing it while I take care of the marketing but quite frankly it is taking ages ... 2 a month would be a miracle for me.

    The product is in the health niche and I wonder what niches all these info products that are being launched are?

    It is all IM stuff?

    I suppose I could outsource it all but I suppose i am a small fish at the moment and am just scared of returns on investments and so forth.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by Hengster View Post

      I suppose I could outsource it all but I suppose i am a small fish at the moment and am just scared of returns on investments and so forth.
      You need to change your way of thinking FAST.
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  • Profile picture of the author MATTYLLL
    It's interesting that there is not much mention of affiliates here. I was under the impression that most of these products were launched through clickbank or similar?
    It completely changes things for me if that isn't the case, just a case of identifying a niche with enough traffic then getting a copywriter to throw together a quick pdf on a topic of some interest....

    Sounds like another area to develop for 2010!

    Thanks for the information, certainly given me some food for thought!
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  • Profile picture of the author Wide
    Thats an interresting question.

    The one that launched 621 products and sell average $13.500/year per product.
    Is this done over clickbank or setting up CPA for each product?
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  • Profile picture of the author Bish
    Wow, you guys rock,
    I thought I was doing well until I read this thread, seems I have a long way to go.
    I developed 2 products last year and spent the rest of the time marketing, both are very successful and provide me with an income but you've inspired me, I think I'll try & get 1 out every 2 months (I like to do indepth research).
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    How much do you average per product per month, if you don't mind me asking?
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  • Profile picture of the author Wide
    The one with 621 products average $12.500/year
    He typed that in the first post.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    All of Wide's facts are wrong. I would encourage you to read my original post if you want to see what I said in my original post. Kristi is a women's name. I don't know where Wide got the idea that I am a "he." Wide isn't very good at quoting figures. The numbers change with each of Wide's quotes. Go to the source to get the real numbers. That is probably good advice with everything in business.

    There was a question about affiliate programs. Almost all of the companies I cited use what you call "affiliate programs" in the IM crowd. I'm sure you already know that term isn't used widely among real businesses though. The first widely used referral marketing program was introduced by Amazon. Their term for their program is "associate" rather than "affiliate." Most other businesses just talk about what they are talking about rather than use the catch phrase "affiliate marketing." They use words like "commissions" and "customer referral incentives."

    Some of the examples I gave of companies where I have seen their books include companies that get almost all of their prospects from referral marketing. The digital download $21 million revenue in 2008 example I gave is actually a Clickbank product. You probably know it well. It wasn't an IM product, but as I mentioned, the copywriter hangs out here and you know him well.

    The company that did $1 million in a single day WAS an IM product that was aimed directly at Warriors. He doesn't hang out here anymore, but you know his name well. Almost 100% of his sales were from affiliates that day. Since he was aiming at the Warrior crowd, he even used the term "affiliate" or "joint venture partner" both of which have a very different meaning among Warriors than you hear in normal business dialog outside the Warrior forum.

    Just try to set up a "joint venture" by email with a real company and watch as hillarity ensues. You aren't talking the same language.

    As I mentioned in the post, the company that does over $100 million a year gets nearly 100% of their sales from affiliates who are also Warrior forum members. Their product is also not aimed at Warriors or IMers. They sell to the general public. But they use an affiliate program for most of their new sales and those affiliates are typically Warrior members.

    My own business gets about 30% of new sales from affiliates. We don't currently use Clickbank, but have in the past and probably will in the future.

    There is nothing wrong with affiliate programs. I highly recommend them. There is nothing wrong with Clickbank. Several real businesses use Clickbank successfully (athough it is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of Clickbank vendors who are running real businesses that have revenues of $10 million or more per year).

    There is something wrong with narrowing your mind so much that you only even understand the Warrior forum definition of "affiliate" and equate that term to being a Clickbank vendor. Real businesses use the vernacular of real businesses. It is a vernacular that is sometimes partially learned while getting your MBA (although I don't have one). Mostly it is learned in the same way you learned the Warrior forum vernacular. You hang out with people who speak it.

    There are many Warriors who run real businesses and you can learn a lot from them. There are also a lot of non-Warriors in your community who run real online businesses and you can learn a lot from them. The Warriors who run real businesses usually use the vernacular of real business though instead of the Warrior created vernacular. That is one way you can separate the wheat from the chaff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Okay ...

      Sorry for calling you a "he" instead of a "she", according to your username.
      And again, sorry for typing 12,500 instead of 11,500 - as posted in your first post.



      Originally Posted by KristiDaniels View Post

      All of Wide's facts are wrong. I would encourage you to read my original post if you want to see what I said in my original post. Kristi is a women's name. I don't know where Wide got the idea that I am a "he." Wide isn't very good at quoting figures. The numbers change with each of Wide's quotes. Go to the source to get the real numbers. That is probably good advice with everything in business.

      There was a question about affiliate programs. Almost all of the companies I cited use what you call "affiliate programs" in the IM crowd. I'm sure you already know that term isn't used widely among real businesses though. The first widely used referral marketing program was introduced by Amazon. Their term for their program is "associate" rather than "affiliate." Most other businesses just talk about what they are talking about rather than use the catch phrase "affiliate marketing." They use words like "commissions" and "customer referral incentives."

      Some of the examples I gave of companies where I have seen their books include companies that get almost all of their prospects from referral marketing. The digital download $21 million revenue in 2008 example I gave is actually a Clickbank product. You probably know it well. It wasn't an IM product, but as I mentioned, the copywriter hangs out here and you know him well.

      The company that did $1 million in a single day WAS an IM product that was aimed directly at Warriors. He doesn't hang out here anymore, but you know his name well. Almost 100% of his sales were from affiliates that day. Since he was aiming at the Warrior crowd, he even used the term "affiliate" or "joint venture partner" both of which have a very different meaning among Warriors than you hear in normal business dialog outside the Warrior forum.

      Just try to set up a "joint venture" by email with a real company and watch as hillarity ensues. You aren't talking the same language.

      As I mentioned in the post, the company that does over $100 million a year gets nearly 100% of their sales from affiliates who are also Warrior forum members. Their product is also not aimed at Warriors or IMers. They sell to the general public. But they use an affiliate program for most of their new sales and those affiliates are typically Warrior members.

      My own business gets about 30% of new sales from affiliates. We don't currently use Clickbank, but have in the past and probably will in the future.

      There is nothing wrong with affiliate programs. I highly recommend them. There is nothing wrong with Clickbank. Several real businesses use Clickbank successfully (athough it is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of Clickbank vendors who are running real businesses that have revenues of $10 million or more per year).

      There is something wrong with narrowing your mind so much that you only even understand the Warrior forum definition of "affiliate" and equate that term to being a Clickbank vendor. Real businesses use the vernacular of real businesses. It is a vernacular that is sometimes partially learned while getting your MBA (although I don't have one). Mostly it is learned in the same way you learned the Warrior forum vernacular. You hang out with people who speak it.

      There are many Warriors who run real businesses and you can learn a lot from them. There are also a lot of non-Warriors in your community who run real online businesses and you can learn a lot from them. The Warriors who run real businesses usually use the vernacular of real business though instead of the Warrior created vernacular. That is one way you can separate the wheat from the chaff.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Kristi you made a comment in a previous post that Id like to revisit.

    You say (regarding product creation)

    "...there is still one day so there might be a couple more created today or tomorrow"

    Using the word "might" to me, suggests that either you have no control over the actual product creation phase of your business which may be outsourced to an external team of workers, or that you're sourcing your products from another vendor in which case - they dont work directly with you - they just do their own thing and you promote their products.

    Am I right in thinking this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
    In my experience, when it comes to putting out products, volume isn't the key. The key is to find a profitable market and give them something that they want and has actual value, and then continue to sell to those folks for years to come with follow-up products.

    The right product in the right market makes all the difference. Concentrating on too many products can lead you to put out the wrong product (lousy quality) in the right market.
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  • Profile picture of the author KristiDaniels
    I don't think I can answer your question about "outsourcing" because this is another word that you have redefined in the IM/Warrior crowd.

    That word means something very different to most online business owners. Let me try to give definitions to see if I can try to answer it. The definitions pretty much destroy the question itself though.

    To the rest of the world, "outsourcing" means one of two things:

    1. Having another company do the work instead of having it performed by employees of your company.

    2. Having a company in a third world country do the work.

    To IMers and especially Warriors, there is no commonly accepted definition of what "outsourcing" even means. But questions like yours seem to go with one fairly common definition among Warriors which is:

    1. Not doing the work personally yourself.

    That definition is extremely broad and "outsourcing" tends to even include assigning a task to an employee.

    In the online business world, the question using that definition doesn't make any sense. If we are talking about an online business, then we are still talking about a business. A business entity is a legal person. The people who interact with that business entity have roles to play. There are employees. The head of the employees is usually called a CEO or the President of the company. That person is employed by the stock holders or the owners of the company indirectly.

    Usually the stock holders don't want to give the President or the CEO daily instructions, so they elect a "Board of Directors" which are usually some of the biggest stock holders, but don't have to be. The Board of Directors elects a chairman of the board and they meet at most monthly and at the minimum yearly.

    So of course a Director or even the Chairman of the board would not know how many products were created on the last two days of the year until they see the books during a meeting usually at least 30 days after the end of the year and possibly up to 12 months after the end of the year.

    Often record keeping wouldn't even tell them that then. They would know the total of the quarter or for the month, but there is no accounting reason to know the daily SKUs created.

    Online businesses are compressing all of that at an alarming rate. For me to know our likely totals for the year BEFORE the end of the year shows that model is changing rapidly. We are using the online nature of our business to feed data on a live basis all of the way to the board of directors.

    But your question about "outsourcing" doesn't make sense using ANY of the definitions of outsourcing.

    My knowledge of how many products are created during the last two days of the year isn't going to change if those products were outsourced to Thailand or created within the United States. That's one defnition of outsourcing.

    Another definition is whether it is done by actual employees of my company or if they are done by employees of another company that the task was "outsourced" to. To release a SKU, it has to hit the wires of actual inhouse employees to get into the database (and release is the word we usually use in the online business world, not "launch" as you use in the IM world... the word "launch" means something else).

    So whether product creation is outsourced in this way or not doesn't affect whether someone in the company knows how many products are being released on a particular day.

    But there is never really a compelling reason for the owner (ie: shareholder), a director, the chairman of the board or even the CEO to know exactly how many SKUs were released on a particular day. Whether SKU creation is outsourced or not has nothing to do with the availability of that information. It is just as available whether product creation is outsourced or not. It just isn't very useful and usually isn't published widely within a business.

    So that is why I didn't know and still don't know exactly how many products were created on the last two days of 2009 by my company. It just doesn't matter to me. It isn't because they were outsourced or weren't outsourced by any definition of that word. I also don't know if they were outsourced or not by either definition of the word.

    That still leaves one of the weird IM definitions of the word left. That definition of "outsource" has something to do with whether I personally created a product or not.

    No. Of course I didn't create a product. I can create a product. I have created products in the past. But that puts me in a very different role in a business than the owner of a business.

    And then we aren't talking about what the business did. We are talking about my personal endeavors. As a person in the role of product creation, I probably wouldn't know the exact date that my work was released as a product by the business. Why would they tell me that? They would just pay me for my work according to my employment or contractual relationship with the business. If you outsource something on Elance for instance, would you tell the person when you had released the product that was the final result of their work? Why would you?

    I hope that helps you understand why I couldn't possibly answer a question about "outsourcing" using the IM or Warrior forum definition of that word. The problem is that you have that word in your Warrior vernacular, but you haven't yet come to a consensus about what it means.

    Using the dictionary definitions of the word or the definitions used by non-Warrior online businesses, that question just doesn't make any sense. A business owner usually wouldn't know how many products were created on a specific day and the lack of that knowledge has absolutely nothing to do with whether the products were outsourced or not.
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