Need some opinions- Is it a good idea to hire people to post on your forum?

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I've just started a new forum on one of my blogs....But now I face the question of whether or not I should just hire people to post on there for me ?

I mean, isn't this the way that most , pretty much every single forum in existenz has made it's way to getting some traffic and the 'momentum' up?

I'm just wondering what are the Warrior's opinions here?

Thanks for any input you can provide!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
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    I've read that some people get their forums going by asking their friends and close business associates to post. It was called "seeding" the forum.

    I don't know about hiring people, but if you do, I'd make them sign a non-disclosure agreement. It might look bad if they were going around bragging that they were paid to post on your forum.
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    Yeah, starting a forum isn't as easy as it looks. It's the old "chicken and the egg" thing - You need members to join, but no one is signing up because the place looks deserted.

    In my opinion, unless you already have a popular site with a dedicated following or you have a list of subscribers, you may struggle. Steve Pavlina is a good example: He had no problem kick-starting his forum because his blog already had a huge audience.

    I have used forum posting services in the past and they are ok, but you need to keep that momentum going until you get a solid base of real members.
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    The way you start a forum is the same way you start a blog, become an authority first or simply the first in your field and they will come.

    A good way to do it is volunteer at other forums and build up some friends, gain experience, figure out what works and doesnt work.

    It is never going to be easy, but it is possible.

    As Heuristic states above, having a following gives you a huge boost, I am a forum mod (former admin) having been promoted time and again from newbie poster for a large gaming forum and many have split off trying to make their own but without the trust of members you are going to struggle.
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    Building momentum is the hardest part...and the danger of a) hiring a boring forum poster or b) hiring a poster who will use his or her work there as part of a portfolio are offputting. I think a good solution is to try several methods including posting your own comments, using plr, posting under other names, hiring posters...scatter it around so that if a poster you hire is boring or bragging, it will just be part of the varied pattern of the forum. BTW, PM me and I can post a comment or two or three for the fun of it.
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      There are some good paid forum posting companies that can help build your forum content and memberbase. There are also some that are terrible.

      If you are interested in finding out more, send me a PM and I'll give you the name and information on the best one around. I worked for them for over two years and even moderated - I can tell you about their work practices and safeguards.

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    I would not create false accounts to post threads and answer them yourself, it simply looks amateurish and obvious.

    Everyone has a certain cadence to their typing, little things they do almost unconsciously which others can pick up on, especially if they are used to forums and figuring out if someone is not playing within the rules. For instance, I tend to do "..." a lot, even without thinking about it and have done so for many years, people know this about me and could recognise it even if blind.

    If you simply make a new forum with 100 of your own accounts to try to cheat the system people will notice, and you will ruin any reputation you ever had.

    You should also not need to pay people to post on a forum, those that get paid for that do not care about them and will simply move onto the next when the admin runs out of money. You need to build loyalty in some way by giving them something of value for free at least once a week. (a forum wide competition resulting in 50% of all website profits every month for those with the most QUALITY posts nominated by others for a year until you are well established may be the way to go)

    There is a guy I know who gave "forum founder" tags to 500 people who helped establish his new forum in its critical stages, basically giving them double PM, photo gallery rights and all sorts of other things for the lifetime of the forum , have you not tried this method? People always do like special and unique tags...

    (Not that it worked for him since he had way too many categories with no demand to them and had a news bot on the rampage that flooded the forums with so much unqualified crap lol)
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      Thinking about the above, if you were to make a forum based upon your business and told people that 50% of all profits garnered from amazon affiliates or whatever were to be won by upto 3 lucky forum posters I might actually come along myself...

      That would have people buying from you simply to bump up the prize pool if they were planning to buy anyways and give you a great little forum for a year, when more established maybe you could do a 10% profit/month competition for one person.

      The trick is to be absolutely honest and pay up when you say you will...if you don't you will end up harming yourself far more than otherwise.
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    I believe you can have your forum active by having someone or people posting every day. You can hire a people to do that or simply ask your friends, colleagues or business partners to make a post. that way you save money.
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      Sparhawke has some good suggestions but the major problem is that people in general will not sign up to a forum that looks empty. Activity draws them in.

      The smart way to do it, when you do hire a posting company, is to do a long package (say three months) with some posters there for the entire period, while new users are added every 2-4 weeks so it looks like it's growing naturally.

      With the company that I mentioned above, you get a full list of all created members so you can easily tell if you're getting enough genuine members. When the membership gets to the point where you think it will sustain itself, then phase out the paid posters.

      Too many forum owners try to get a rush of activity in a short period with paid posters and that is pretty obviously fake to most people. It's also pretty easy to pick up on if a bunch of posters all stop posting on the same day.

      Once you have a good set of genuine members, then you could do some sort of competition. I would recommend a referral competition at first, rather than a posting competition. You want your members to tell others about the forum.

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    One thing I should add here that is very important is to keep to the letter of your forum title and DO NOT deviate for the first 3 months beyond your main focus and a single general discussion offtopic forum if you must.

    The average forum poster from experience only posts twice per day, sometimes you will obviously get more but when a forum is brand new and you only have 50-100 posters if you have hired that amount you want it to be concentrated in one area so it looks very busy.

    There is nothing worse than going to a forum and seeing a ridiculous line of thousands of categories and subcategories which are barely even getting looked at and it will kill you far more efficiently than if you didn't pay your hosting bill.

    When you get the traffic and there is demand for another forum build it up slowly and surely.

    There are four main areas you should start with when you first open a forum:

    Guides

    General Discussion (related directly to your forums focus)

    Questions

    Marketplace / Screenshots / Feedback (dependant on area of focus) This can occupy one subforum with three separate areas until you get up and running since they are generally amongst the slowest of all forum areas.

    Offtopic general discussion is optional

    Everything else is purely cosmetic and without the traffic or demand for those areas you will simply shoot yourself in the foot.

    Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

    Sparhawke has some good suggestions but the major problem is that people in general will not sign up to a forum that looks empty. Activity draws them in.
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    If you do it properly and actually have people coming to your blog on a daily basis then that is your start-up without having to pay for paid members who will be gone in moments, there us nothing worse than having a forum of 1100 one day and 1000 of them suddenly disappear a few days later.

    If the opening poster can make it so that the paid members get superceded gently by the general population it could work, but it is a big gamble and needs to be considered carefully.

    If there is decent traffic being generating naturally (about 500-1000) by the blog you can make a small forum and mention that you are giving founding member tags or whatever to those that contribute in the beginning and everyone knows it is at the beginning of a forums life that you get the highest proportion of stickies being produced as the forum is at its most productive.

    These in themselves are insanely brilliant marketing tools for the people who hold them because they are permanently stuck up at the top of the forum for all to see and if in a really useful subforum that everyone visits they can hold their blogs advertised in a way few can. Stickies get far more views on average than any other kind of post, until a particular person builds a reputation in their own right. Who wouldn't want masses of free advertisement for the simple fee of writing the best help topic first?

    And yes, I have held the occasional sticky myself, years after forums have first started and even then they are highly prized.

    This could actually be one of your main selling points to get people to post on your forums :p
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    Seeding the forum is ok, as long as you're not using it to deceive anyone. For example, if you intend to sell advertising space or you intend to quickly flip the forum, then you need to disclose up front to potential advertisers/buyers that X number of members are temporary (paid) members who made X number of posts.

    In other words, don't let someone paying you money get mislead by your forum stats.

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    ETA: And don't deceive your members or competitors either, by doing something like posting a slogan such as, "biggest [niche] forum on the planet!" (when it's not true because several members are just temporary, paid members).
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    I don't think it would be a problem if you offered "incentives" for posting, or hiring people who specialize in the topic content to kick-start the forum.
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    A lot of people jumpstart their forums that way. Just make sure that you hire people who understand that you will only pay for quality posting ... real conversations, not one liners.
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    Can anyone recommend any companies that you can hire to post for you?
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      Originally Posted by robharris35 View Post

      Can anyone recommend any companies that you can hire to post for you?
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    Here is what you need to do before you hire forum posters to be initial posters on your forum :

    1. Find the problems that your community is going to solve, for example programming forum requires posters that actually have knowledge of programming. So create some questions and post them on your forum and ask these paid posters to contribute genuinely. (Make it rule that if they spam they won't get money).
    2. Don't let them have signature/profile link.
    3. Make a rule for them to post content with words 30+. No one liners.
    4. If you are paying them for creating thread then ask them to create thread which can bring some SERP value. (Threads like what are you listening to, rate the movie, what are you doing adds no value.)
    5. Never let them post duplicate content on forums( if they are copy-pasting then don't pay them).
    6. Check the grammar/typos of poster. Don let them post with lots of spaces, full stop and paras without content.

    Make sure you get the work done for the payment you made for those posts. If you get any quality poster who is dedicated to the work then you can hire them as moderator or monthly posting basis. Never accept posters with one liners and with poor typos/grammar, you'll waste money on them.
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      Originally Posted by mahesh2k View Post

      Here is what you need to do before you hire forum posters to be initial posters on your forum :

      1. Find the problems that your community is going to solve, for example programming forum requires posters that actually have knowledge of programming. So create some questions and post them on your forum and ask these paid posters to contribute genuinely. (Make it rule that if they spam they won't get money).
      2. Don't let them have signature/profile link.
      3. Make a rule for them to post content with words 30+. No one liners.
      4. If you are paying them for creating thread then ask them to create thread which can bring some SERP value. (Threads like what are you listening to, rate the movie, what are you doing adds no value.)
      5. Never let them post duplicate content on forums( if they are copy-pasting then don't pay them).
      6. Check the grammar/typos of poster. Don let them post with lots of spaces, full stop and paras without content.

      Make sure you get the work done for the payment you made for those posts. If you get any quality poster who is dedicated to the work then you can hire them as moderator or monthly posting basis. Never accept posters with one liners and with poor typos/grammar, you'll waste money on them.
      Thanks for the advice - we don't have our own forums though and were thinking about hiring people to post on Yahoo Groups and places like that. Plus, any company names you could recommend for me to investigate?
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      Originally Posted by mahesh2k View Post

      Here is what you need to do before you hire forum posters to be initial posters on your forum :

      1. Find the problems that your community is going to solve, for example programming forum requires posters that actually have knowledge of programming. So create some questions and post them on your forum and ask these paid posters to contribute genuinely. (Make it rule that if they spam they won't get money).
      2. Don't let them have signature/profile link.
      3. Make a rule for them to post content with words 30+. No one liners.
      4. If you are paying them for creating thread then ask them to create thread which can bring some SERP value. (Threads like what are you listening to, rate the movie, what are you doing adds no value.)
      5. Never let them post duplicate content on forums( if they are copy-pasting then don't pay them).
      6. Check the grammar/typos of poster. Don let them post with lots of spaces, full stop and paras without content.

      Make sure you get the work done for the payment you made for those posts. If you get any quality poster who is dedicated to the work then you can hire them as moderator or monthly posting basis. Never accept posters with one liners and with poor typos/grammar, you'll waste money on them.
      I agree with most of this if you are going down the paid posters route...the biggest problem for any forum is the absolute morass of completely useless posters you will get:

      #1 Including those that copy out an entire post and simply put "I agree" which helps in no way whatsoever.

      #2 Profile signatures should be a privilege at the beginning I agree, one that can be relaxed as your forum grows this way you don't get hundreds of people joining just to spam links, it will happen. I would also limit outbound links to other forums for a short while and instantly hide those that do get posted until someone has built up a level of trust...a lot of the time a bot will find an unprotected forum and tell their friends. It then becomes open season for your site.

      #3 One word posting, or without content should be a warn.

      #4 Why dont you just pm people what you want them to post if you are going to be a dictator about it? forums are naturally free flowing, so long as they stick to the general idea of the main forum area it brings in more value to have varied topics than 3000 all about 8086 processor chips.

      #5 If you find an authority post to answer someone a specific answer there is nothing wrong with quoting it...there is nothing worse than having someone butcher a perfectly good posting just for credit.

      #6 Good grammar and spelling is important, I cannot agree more on this point...the last thing you want to see is a load of 11yr idiots running around a computer forum, because that is what bad spelling will attract.

      The above are good guidelines, but only as guidelines...if you stick to them too rigidly you will harm your forum yourself without ever needing posters to do it for you.
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    Thanks - I hope she sees this because it's not letting me message her directly!
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    There are some good posting companies but posting their link is like spamming IMO. So i suggest you to get forum posters from digital point forums, V7N forums etc. You'll find those company sales people picking orders from those forums as well.

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