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opt-in email lists getting really cheap!

by TheGraduate
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Hi everybody, thanks for viewing!

Lately I have been searching around for not too expensive targeted opt-in email lists, and I found that targeted opt-in email lists are getting really cheap in the market. Nowadays it is possible for anybody with less than $500.00 US to get a hold of one million targeted opt-in email addresses in just one shot. My question to you is:

Have any of you tried these not too expensive large targeted opt-in email lists now available in the market, and what have been your results with them?
#cheap #cheaper #email #lists #optin
  • Profile picture of the author NikkiG
    I'm familiar with them and I have to say that you'll likely be very disappointed with your investment.

    Volume is one thing, quality is another and these are not quality leads.

    Better off spending the money on generating 200-500 of your own leads, they will be far more profitable than 1 million purchased leads. Might sound crazy but it is true.

    If those leads where valuable the vendors would be holding on to them and raking in more than a few hundred bucks wouldn't you think?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheGraduate
      Originally Posted by NikkiG View Post

      I'm familiar with them and I have to say that you'll likely be very disappointed with your investment.

      Volume is one thing, quality is another and these are not quality leads.

      Better off spending the money on generating 200-500 of your own leads, they will be far more profitable than 1 million purchased leads. Might sound crazy but it is true.

      If those leads where valuable the vendors would be holding on to them and raking in more than a few hundred bucks wouldn't you think?
      You might be somewhat right, but it is difficult to ignore the fact that most companies spend resources buying and sharing leads among each other. After all, business is a game of numbers, whether you generate your own leads or buy them you are always playing kind of the same game. (of course, not all lists are created equal, the tricky part is finding the best ones in the market)
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Originally Posted by TheGraduate View Post

    Nowadays it is possible for anybody with less than $500.00 US to get a hold of one million targeted opt-in email addresses in just one shot.

    Have any of you tried these not too expensive large targeted opt-in email lists now available in the market, and what have been your results with them?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a joke, right? Please tell me that's not a serious question.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheGraduate
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a joke, right? Please tell me that's not a serious question.

      Well, because of the fact that most members (if not all members) of this forum are in one way or another online marketers I assume that one of the first things we do is "go out there" looking for not too expensive large targeted opt-in email lists. There are almost 4000 active members in this forum, in my opinion it is expected that more than 25% of these members at one point or another had tried to experiment with bought targeted opt-in email lists, thus why of me posting this question.
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  • Profile picture of the author source47
    I agree with NikkiG. I used one of these services on two separate occasions for two different businesses. They were suppose to target a different demographic. Their tracking software claimed that all emails were sent out and I did have some click throughs but I never had a conversion. Back then, when I did this, I was still a noob and really didn't know any better.

    Maybe it was the offer that I was promoting. Maybe the email copy wasn't quite right. But more likely than not, the list wasn't a targeted list of 'hungry buyers'.

    It would be better to take the time to build up your own list over the next several months. Why? Because you will have a reputation (credibility) with that list, whereas, if you were going to promote an offer to an email blaster or email list purchasing service. Those people receiving your email don't care about you or what you have to offer.

    I hope that this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author LandoFormosa
    I have access to a list of 1mln. "targeted" opt-ins in my niche, but the responsiveness is from bad to worse. I rarely get more than 2% conversion on a single blast. On the other hand I have my own targeted list of 4,500 double opt-ins that give me 18-23% consistently.

    You can tell the difference, don't you?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheGraduate
      Originally Posted by LandoFormosa View Post

      I have access to a list of 1mln. "targeted" opt-ins in my niche, but the responsiveness is from bad to worse. I rarely get more than 2% conversion on a single blast. On the other hand I have my own targeted list of 4,500 double opt-ins that give me 18-23% consistently.

      You can tell the difference, don't you?

      enough said!
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    • Profile picture of the author espresso
      Originally Posted by LandoFormosa View Post

      I have access to a list of 1mln. "targeted" opt-ins in my niche, but the responsiveness is from bad to worse. I rarely get more than 2% conversion on a single blast.
      Wait a minute
      1-2% on a list of 1,000,000 is excellent is my opinion

      Are you selling to them?
      If you are selling a product for 10$ and 1% buy it you get 100,000USD
      Thats amazing

      whats the niche
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      • Profile picture of the author briankoz
        Originally Posted by LandoFormosa
        I have access to a list of 1mln. "targeted" opt-ins in my niche, but the responsiveness is from bad to worse. I rarely get more than 2% conversion on a single blast. On the other hand I have my own targeted list of 4,500 double opt-ins that give me 18-23% consistently.

        You can tell the difference, don't you?

        I'm guessing that you don't have a 2% conversion rate on a million lead list, as you seem to be implying that the 18% to 23% of 4,500 leads (which is about 900 leads converting for you) is better than 2% of 1 million leads (which is 20,000).

        If that were true, I'd much rather have 20,000 sales than 900 sales all day long, but that's just me.

        From experience, you won't get 2% conversions from a 1 million targeted "bought" list. Getting an open rate of 2% sounds way more likely than a conversion rate of 2%.

        You can make money both ways as long as the rented or bought list is indeed a legit list (many aren't), but 99% of it comes down to how you market and what your offer is. Most people never find an offer that is appealing to these kinds of leads.

        On top of that, I completely disagree with an earlier statement here that you can't come right out and promote to rented or bought leads. From my testing, you DON'T want to give content, content, and more content right off the bat. You want to promote right off the bat when the responsiveness is highest.

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  • Profile picture of the author Raygun
    What you are referring to is called solo ads and for the most part they can be hit or miss. I have had pretty good luck with some of them but they are highly targeted and and very relevant to my niche. Also the number is far less than those junk lists you are talking about. I pretty much guarantee if do the one you are referring to, you can take that money and flush it right down the toilet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Mader
    Originally Posted by TheGraduate View Post

    Hi everybody, thanks for viewing!

    Lately I have been searching around for not too expensive targeted opt-in email lists, and I found that targeted opt-in email lists are getting really cheap in the market. Nowadays it is possible for anybody with less than $500.00 US to get a hold of one million targeted opt-in email addresses in just one shot. My question to you is:

    Have any of you tried these not too expensive large targeted opt-in email lists now available in the market, and what have been your results with them?

    Hey, just forget it... i bought one off this lists...and yes i got clicks...but thats the only thing..

    Sorry to say but save your money... it´s not worth your beautiful $$

    Try to get them with a mailing in your "REAL" own list... and what you´ll see is nothing..

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author marcdonovan
    Using those lists is spamming. They did not opt-in to receive email from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
      Originally Posted by marcdonovan View Post

      Using those lists is spamming. They did not opt-in to receive email from you.
      Don't think that is always the case, some have it in the small print that you agree to receive similar offers from other companies if you opt in. So when you sign up you are signing up to multiple lists. Co-reg or whatever as some of the guru's were promoting a couple of years ago.

      Not saying I have or would ever bother with this type of thing, even if it is legal 99.99% of these lists are worthless junk and will produce 0% conversion.

      If any of these lists converted why don't these companies promote offers to the lists instead of selling them for a pittance, defies logic to me.

      Far easier (and far more profitable) to create ones own quality lists.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    I have bought lists before.

    How you contact them will directly effect your success rate.

    You can't promote anything to them.

    Imagine yourself eating dinner with your family and then receiving a phone call in the middle of your quaint evening, it's a telemarketer trying to pitch you something. Do you even care what the offer is? Most of us will simply say call back another time or no thanks.

    There is resistance to your success that you have to bypass, and the only way to do that is by knowing everything possible about the list you bought.

    This is why I choose selective lists, things you can get from Welcome to Salesgenie.com® - We Put You in the Lead.
    You can't buy millions, but thousands of leads.

    For straight emails leads by the millions... you still need to do research.

    Break up the leads into city and state, this way you can target them by their location. You can then gather their interest more, maybe by mentioning a hot spot in their town to get the initial spark going.

    Think creatively, but bottom line is, gain as much knowledge about the list as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author LMC
    Brian,

    Well then I agree to disagree.

    With an email verifier and a quality funnel I have seen 8% click through rates on blasts on content that brings value and then qualifies the open lead.

    On the other hand I have never seen more then 1% to a straight promoted link.

    But like I said above, I agree to disagree.
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    The only way to "buy" your list is to buy the traffic
    to the squeeze page, and converting it into subscribers.

    Other then that-paying directly for the leads is not healthy
    for your business. The quality would probably be as low as it
    gets...

    That's my take on it,
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Better pay me $500 and I'll develop some free blogs + opt-in to deliver you 500-1K quality leads in some weeks.

    J/K
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Here's something for you to think about...if these types of mailing lists worked, why would anyone bother wasting their time trying to build their own list?

    I wouldn't trade even my smallest list of just 500 for one of those unresponsive lists.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    *SIGH* I don't get it. We know that bought lists don't work and most ARs won't accept them for import. And yet, it seems like the lure of less work is still around. Too bad. Yes it takes more time, but I'd rather have a full list of responsive subscribers than a hit or miss bought list. I could take that money and start up several different advertising campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    I just experimented with a bought list using Majon and my results were not too good. I'll post the details in a few days.
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