You all make it sound so easy - but after more then a year of failure I am about to quit IM!

What made you think this was easy? this is a business, and running a business successfully is NOT easy.

I think you're trying to do too much at once. I'd suggest that you pick the one site that has earned you the most money (doesn't matter how little that might be) and just focus all your efforts on that one site for a few months. It looks like you know how to drive traffic so keep that up, but send it all to that one site. Then you should be able to increase numbers to the point that you can optimise the content and the monetisation to start brining in the $$.

Don't quit just yet!

$600 is still better than nothing, Keep at it, it all takes momentum.

Is your URL that the traffic pointing to designed well, and converting well? That might be a problem perhaps ?

If you did all that and were pointing it all at just one site - it would have a LOT more traffic. You've probably just diversified your efforts too much and not stayed focused on one thing for long enough.

Take a break for a few weeks then come back to it you're be surprised what a break will do
If it's any consolation I spent well over a year in IM before I saw any profit.

As one of the warrior has mention, I feel that you are doing too many projects at the same time. Creating more websites does not mean that the income will increase.

Focus on one project first and understand the whole cycle on marketing it successfully. Once you understand the whole marketing plan, you will just need to duplicate it to your other project.

If you are tight on budget, you can try article marketing to drive consistent targeted traffic back to your website. Chris Knight has mention a quote about article marketing:

"Article marketing is a bit like running a marathon. A steady pace will create better results than sprinting followed by inactivity."

Don't give up as I think you can definitely overcome this obstacle

Zack

The good thing is you seem to already know a lot.

( When i started out it took me about year to see my first penny, but that was due to that i didn't know anything about IM )

* Yes, Traffic is important. I am a little puzzled that you dont get at least SOME traffic eg. from article marketing. Maybe you simply chose the wrong niche and keywords.

In my own testing i simply see that some products SELL, and some others DON'T regardless of what people say. Failures/Duds are always to be expect, they are part of the learning.

I GUESS that one problem of you might be you are lacking a bit in keyword research - it is indeed possible to research a market beforehand and get an IDEA about traffic to expect and whether you can rank a site/blog in Google.

Make a site about insurance, weight loss, acne, **** berry etc...you will have a HELL of a time to get traffic since it will be extremely hard to rank this due to extreme competition.

Use a tool like Micro Niche finder or Market Samurai, sit back and learn how to use them if you don't do this yet. Choose SMALLER niches, research keywords (article titles) etc..etc.. heck, even chose MICRO niches with extremely targeted keywords and relatively little searches..and establish some blogs here.

Analyze your past attempts, eg. your articles. Do they receive traffic? What clickouts are you getting? if they receive traffic and no one buys, simply drop the product and choose something else. As said, SOME stuff is simply duds and people dont buy.

As for traffic in general, for long term and SOLID traffic..learn as much on SEO as you can. Dont go for mainstream stuff, but once you get a smaller niche site up you will get traffic. Just be consistent and use the tools/software available, in particular keyword/market research.

Nothing easy about IM! This is just like a real job/business, without a plan and hard work comes failure. People want that success, with a push of a button. It takes lots of time, and determination to make it in this business.

You seem to have done way too many things, instead focus on 1 or 2 of those elements and make your money there. You have take action, but your plans were never set. If you need more help, possibly seek a mentor or attend some marketing seminars and possibly form a group/network/mastermind.

As I said lastnight, this business is not cut-out for everyone, good luck!

Did you join the Wealthy Affiliate or some **** site like that?

From what I see, you've suffered from information overload. $50 a day is very doable with the time you have if you focus on one thing at a time.

Just purchase a .info domain.
Choose a CB product in an ever green niche redirect it
ANd write articles pointing to that domain.

Keep writing until you crack...

This is something you should read if you want success:

How Focus Changed My Life Welcome to Dave's IM Club

Quitting is not the option.
"Our lives begin to end the day when we become silent about things that manner".

You've invested a lot into this. Don't leave it now. Stick it out and come out successful. Do all it takes.

Life is a storm. One moment, you'll bask in the sunlight, the other moment you'll be shattered down the stream. What makes you a man is when that storm comes, you have to look in it's eyes and say "Do your worst". For I will do mine.

At that moment fate will fear you and start respecting and obeying you...

You know, having a ton of sites isn't the only way to make money. I was earning enough from one site to quit ,y job and just work for myself long before I ever thought about building more sites. If you focused all your efforts on building an authority style content site and focused all your traffic tactics on that one site, you might be able to earn money from it in several different ways.

On my main content site I earn money from my own product sales, from affiliate sales, from selling ad space, from Google Adsense, and from product reviews. And that's not even counting the sales I make from the mailing list I've built from that content site.

You might give that a try. Pick something you've already made money at, that you know a lot about, that you want to learn more about, and become the biggest expert on that topic that you can and I'll bet you start earning a lot more money.

For newbies I always recommend to start off with one quality site rather than a myriad of tiny niche mini-sites. It's best to focus on one thing at the beginning and to grow from there.

You are spreading yourself too thin.

I was made redundant a few years ago and I spent a whole year full time 14 hour days 7 days a week. I made nothing at all for that whole year and decided that I had to take a job again. At the exact same time that I started the job I started to make IM profit. Small at first but it grew. 18 months later I was full time IM again making a living.

It's just a matter of finding what works for you and there is no way of knowing how long it will take to find it. Keep going and follow the advice here. It will work sooner or later.

That's quite a lot!

I mean you put up a lot of content and didn't make the moneys worth.

Here's what I think. First of all, you don't always need traffic to make make money.

There are plenty of ways (I know at least 3 ways of making money online without traffic).

Since you write so much (I am under the impression your content is good) you can make a great income by creating PLR articles and posting them on the WSO section of this very forum.

But, if you want to stick to niche marketing, then you must get traffic and traffic is all about being effective.

I mean, you can blast the internet with 100's of articles (that's what I did when I started out) and see no results. While someone else creates one article and gets 50 unique visitors per day.

The idea is to know what you're doing, when it comes to market research, keyword research, and promotion.

I hope this helps.

Whatever you do, don't give up!

Looking at all of that, you never stuck to anything, pick something, stick to it, make it work, $50.00/day isn't that hard, infact it's 1/2 affiliate sales, think about it that way, you've got 8 hours to make 2 sales, 1 sale every 4 hours. Good luck!

I also spend at least 8 hours everyday beside my day job when I started.

Yes, it's not easy, who told you that it's easy? Bust that fellow!

But, you are at the right direction, just fine-tune by focusing on one income model, and you'll see money.

From looking at your list I get the impression that you are all over the map and possibly a flavor of the month IMer.

Pick a strategy / method and stick with it.

For me, it's all about backlinks and onsite SEO. I've never submitted an article or press release, created a video, created my own product or most of the other stuff on your list, I don't even have a mailing list. I pick a keyword and backlink the crap out of my sites until they are ranking and drawing traffic. Then I hope my visitors buy something.

Not saying it's the best method but it's simple and works for me.

You need to find your own system, stick with it and work it hard.

You are spread way to thin friend. Focus on what you have found to work and build inroads to your site via links.

and no, its not "easy" by any means!!

but I saw this WSO about a 16 year old who made millions!

it often sounds harder. what you need to do is follow the system. thats it! forget about creativity and just follow the steps

You may be trying to build Rome in a day and spreading yourself out too thin. Its best if you channel your energy to your most successful projects (say 3) and focus on them to do as best as possible. Don't give up just yet! Turn your story around and make it an inspiration to all other Warriors

OK .

We were in the exact same position. We had 20 or so blogs but really weren't making the income we wanted. It definitely wasn't enough to give up work.

What made the difference was when we focused on just one website and put everything we could into it.

You're really spreading yourself too thin. My suggestion would be to pick one of your blogs and give it everything you've got. You probably know by now which blog does better than the others so go with that one.

at the end of the day you need a U.S.P. or a U.A.P. Why would people buy from you? Al lthe marketing in the world is no good if people are not compelled to buy from you. It's tough....like all business. You probably fell for a the hype about amknig $10,000+ a monthy whislt sleeping, etc.. In real life it is not like that.

Focus on one or two integrated methods and go from there.

You need focus and discipline.

You mentioned you stay online like 8 hours per day right? And your goal is 50 usd per day (which is only 6.25 usd / hour)

So your goal is to reach 6.25 usd / hour and that seems quite possible to me or to any one else.

Alright I'm being generous and giving you a method which will surely make you a couple of hundreds per week and the response is, Website Flipping!

Im gonna write a full case study on my blog regarding this topic but until then, I will give you one keyword which will make you a lot of money when you flip the site, Apple iPAD

People are going crazy over it, a good niche is wallpapers, backgrounds, other downloads for Apple iPad, tutorials and stuff like that. If you work on that site for 8 hours per day for one week, I'm dead sure you could sell it easily at least $300-$500 per month, just believe in yourself, just take action and do it now!

hey friends, have you heard "money make money" ?
I believe you have come across this quote a lot.

Here what I did when I was in your situation.
I tried to earn $1 per day. Not $50/day which I know it is almost impossible from nobody and knew nothing.

After I consistently earn $1 for 2,3 days, my target increased for $2, then $5, then $10 which is realistic.

Plus, with that money, I invested for more income. I learned this from someone at Malaysia. His quote was " start small finish big".

With that philosophy in my mind, when I earn $1, I saved it until it become $5.
With that $5, I continuing what I did before, plus, I invested, all $5 to outsource what I was doing back there. With this, I earn 2 to 3 times from before.

I continue this, for $10 investment, $50 investment and so on.

My point here, use the power of outsource. If you want cheap outsource, find somebody from India or China. They are happy with $1 as we happy for $10.
(Their job also quite good)

One more thing, focus on selling instead of building blog for adsense, HPK etc.

Sell others product if you dont have one, ie Affiliate. Or maybe, some MRR/PLR package, and sell it for some pennies :p

I did this, and was helping more to earn a consistent $1 to $10 per day long time ago.

If you find competition is very hard, avoid competition, find other market, find other product.

If you can't, befriend with your competitor. Learn how they do, and you do the same but better.

And last but not least, don't do things for the sake of money Only. Give value to what you do. Sell things to help others. Write articles, to inform others.

With that think in your mind, you are on the right track to be successful.

Be strong, if you want to give up, watch this video first, then up to you.

You may have watched this video, but please watch it again.
Thanks,
Raja Kamil, Malaysia

I think you aren't sticking to one strategy.

You're running like the big cat: You'll run wherever you find an opportunity.

I'll help you out.

Await my PM.

I think I can get you out of this mess.

No KIDDING.. Your problem SHOULD be lack of traffic. Look at what I highlighted in red. You are in the chicken house trying to catch all the chickens at one time.

Slow down....Choose one niche and then focus that much effort on building content, blogs, sites all driving traffic to ONE moneymaker. Drive everything to one place.

Imagine if all that work had been done to promote traffic to ONE well optimized site. How many visitors would you have to one offer, if they were all focused into one funnel?

Catch one chicken at a time. Soon the truck will be loaded with chickens...

And to answer the first question.... HELL NO, you're not stupid. Look at what you have done. You have created more content than the bulk of people on the Warrior Forum. Your intelligence and work ethic are phenomenal. Focus down to the one niche you love, focus your effort into it with the same energy, and you have found the magic path...

Once you have created success in the one niche after 3, 6, or 9 months...then consider another niche. Then again, you might not need another one.

Stick to one system buddy.

I had similar problems like you.

I knew so much that I couldn't focus on one thing at one time.

I still encounter that issue but hey, I have come down to a business model that will last for a lifetime. Even to this day I am confused because I get stuck with making the right decisions but still I take action and come through.

Making money online shouldn't be a get-rich-quick scheme neither it is. It's not easy as 1-2-3 and you're done.

It takes effort to build a business model and set it up on auto-pilot to generate cash on demand.

I sent you a PM that is going to change your life in a couple of hours - don't believe me, just try it for once what I told you to do for gods sake.

You'll thank me forever.

I am sure of the same.

Right off the bat, I can tell your main problem is that you're spread WAY to thin.

Choose 1 thing and dig REALLY deep with it. Make that successful, then move on.

Make a marketing plan for that one niche and stick to it. Don't get distracted by the newest best things... just keep trucking on ONE thing.

Took me a while to figure that one out too. But, once I did, it all started lookin up for me.

This is NOT just some hobby you do. Looks like you are trying to do a million things at once. Focus on ONE project and get as much traffic to it as you can. Free or Paid to this ONE project until it is making you $50-$100 a day. Then and ONLY then move on to the next project and rinse and repeat.

Here is 1 internet marketing strategy that I condense for you (simply because it's late and I'm lazy hehe)


Quality content + Traffic = Money


If you can provide valuable quality content... then traffic will naturally come with it. Offer something unique to your website viewers. Also you must have some form of monetization strategy in place to turn that traffic into money. Otherwise your efforts will be in vain.

Somethings not right here. I just jumped into a new niche about 3 months ago and already have 90 articles submitted to 2 main directories and we're making a lot more than $600. You've got 100 articles submitted and you've only made $600 in a year?

Like someone already posted, without some more specifics, people will only be able to give you general advice. The obvious mistake you've made that many people make is that you're extremely unfocused. You're all over the place. I'm curious to see what kind of market and keyword research you've done for those 100 articles and how many niches and/or websites they point to. Without sharing more details it's impossible to check out your marketing sales funnel, assuming you even have one.

Are you capturing e-mail addresses and building a relationship with your list? At $600 in the last year I would venture to guess you are not. What's your front-end, back-end, and sales funnel strategy? How do you track your traffic so you know what converts and what doesn't?

Spending "thousands" of dollars on courses and WSOs means nothing unless you've gone through them, learned from them, and have executed and given the business model enough time to do it's thing. Press releases can make you a lot of money when written and distributed correctly so I'm not sure what your press release strategy is. I've looked at all the things you've done and something is simply not adding up here. This is either a phony post or you've left out some very significant details.

What kind of business outline / plan did you start with and are you doing a bare minimum of 4 things to promote your business at least 5 days per week? Most Warriors that I've talked to over the years that have made posts like yours could not answer those two questions in the positive. They simply weren't doing it consistently and didn't have a plan.

If you've made $600 in a year have you've been able to isolate where those monies have come from and have found a way to scale it up? It sounds like to me at this point you really need to hire a coach that is going to give you some tough love. I guarantee they would have drop a lot of the stuff you are now doing and have you concentrate on only one or a couple of items at a time.

RoD

As another warrior stated take a little time off. Refocus, your desire to achieve your goals is still there. When you return fresh, focus on one task at a time, become the master (not a slave) of your business and the money will follow.

Do one thing you enjoy, find all the nuances of it, and get really good. You're doing too much which only leads to mediocrity...

I've been where you are and I know the frustration...I focus on product creation which is what I enjoy most...

Cheers,

Brad

Don't quit now. You have learned a lot and you have most of the pieces for the puzzle, Take a quick break and then come back and narrow your focus. What has made you some money in the past can do it again. Concentrate on improving what has already shown some success.

When I started reading your story, I almost thought I wrote it. Except, I did not do all that stuff you were mentioning and I've been doing this off and on for quite some time. However, I too spend most of my time at work, like you, on the computer reading this forum and researching for my IM business. Let's just say that I am finally getting started after 5 years of buying this product and that promising I will make millions....and it not working.

Anyway, you mentioned that you were doing different niches. I think that might be part of the problem. I was trying to do more than one thing at a time and was not very successful. I am currently working on one thing right now and sticking to it until I become successful at it with one niche. Then I can move on to something else.

Like someone else said earlier, maybe you should step back and take a break for a bit and do other things except IM. Then come back and start fresh. I've done that too and it helps.

Yes this is very hard to do but like others have said, this is a business and like any other business starting out, there are no such things as overnight success. You have to work just as hard at this as you would any other job....possibly harder.

I'm in the same situation.

I quit my job about a year ago to work on an online business. For the first 9 months, I spread myself too thin, trying a whole assortment of methods. It was only until 3 months ago that I realized that you need to focus on ONE and ONLY ONE method. So I decided to work exclusively on my business and left everything go by the way side.

Unfortunately, I haven't made any money so far, and since I began getting serious about building a business only 3 months ago, I've already used up most of my savings.

But will that deter me?

NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

I learned from my mistakes. What I need to do now is find a job to hold me over and fund my business until my business is a success.

I.M. is not a hobby where you can get rich quick by doing nothing. It is a really business. I suggest you step back and regroup and put all your energy and effort in one avenue.

I refuse to give up on myself and you shouldn't either.

Hire a Coach...

focus on one thing..

testing, testing and more testing..

testing your ad, testing your traffic...

find out which one method you enjoy the most...

if doesn't work go to the next one...

once you hit the gold, just pre-produce it...

good luck my friend!

Han

You been down that road Neo

Do you really want to go back to some lame desk job or whatever you did before and wait for your monthly charity check?

Sorry to be so blunt , I know what you mean with the frustration and all but this is nothing really, people have given their entire lives to a single discovery or purpose only to achieve results years after.

This is not meant to say that it will take you that long to gain success in IM. Think about a person that is now sitting in jail for the next 10 years or so, what choice does he have and what choice do you have, a bit off the topic but don't let this demoralize you, keep hacking it and there is no way it will not work.

Good luck , hope you make it

It is not easy but anything worth something will cost something.

Maybe the problem is you haven't actually focused on ONE THING for long enough. Jumping around a lot can waste time and never really gets you anywhere.

Come, let's do it. I was like you and was going to give up but I make over $3,000 per month now with little work.

What you need is a mentor and I am willing to help you free of charge if you are willing to do it. I will send you my email address via PM.

Sounds like you're dealing with some very bad information overload. I would suggest you just pick one "system" and work it till it works for you. It really is that simple.

There's an old proverb that goes "If you chase two rabbits, you will not catch either one." I think it's definitely true.

So my advice to is focus on one thing.

Be Positive. Be Strong. Be Smart.

I think you have the key, find the right door and knock it open.

If you can make $600 a year and you can do more. Perhaps you need to understand that traffic is about building momentum.

1. SEO takes time but definitely worth it. Take the time to build quality links to your site.

2. Are you actively involve in list building. I have seen a lot of member here mention that the money is in the list. Am afraid they are not far from been right.

3. PPC requires skills, you can lose a lot of money in a hurry without any thing to show for it. Perry Marshall provides a great adword tutorial. PPC is one of the fastest way to get a lot of prospect to your landing page thou costly.

IM is all about skills, hone your skills and you will be just fine.

Pick on those three tips and you will surely make a difference.

John

STOP WITH THE A.D.D. and focus!!!

The bottom line is this, there are TWO forms of traffic that can be acheived which results in creating income online.

SEARCH ENGINE TRAFFIC ----- AND ----- REFERRAL TRAFFIC

Both of those things unless you have serious tricks up your sleeve, are to create websites with truly high quality content that people like!

With all of those different things you have going it says to me that you are not passionate about what you're selling and you want IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION. If you build a website, that is truly full of information, easy to navigate, and your visitors say, "wow that was convenient I found everything i wanted and more at this website, I should tell my friends about this", you will acheive this insane referral traffic, from word of mouth and blogs across the internet. Don't forget that people who own great informative and helpful blogs are always looking for a great website to link out to purely to satisfy their visitors.

Not only will you get traffic through the roof from referral traffic, but believe me, GOOGLE KNOWS A GREAT WEBSITE WHEN IT SEES ONE. Don't be afraid to invest your time into a 25-50 page website, that's not full of crap, you will get immense insane huge amounts of traffic. Remember that 90% of your visitors will be from miscellaneous totally unique keyword searches, the more content you have the more terms you will show up for.

For example if you're trying to sell a product on a website, you can have pages with photos, videos, reviews, examples, screenshots, a forum page, a Q&A page**You'd be surprised how much traffic you'll get to your Q&A page, about 50 percent of online searches are in the form of a question.

Good luck! that's enough for me, maybe I'll start a thread.

Are any of your sites ranking on the first page of Google for its keyword(s)? If not, maybe you should be focusing more on getting each of them ranked up (pick one or two to get ranked up, then after they are ranked on the first page, move on to the others)...that will help you increase traffic (of course this is assuming there is decent traffic for the keywords.

It's not easy, it's real work but it's def doable...and so much better than a 9-5. Don't spread yourself too thin & focus.

(but agreed, it's not for everyone and some people are better off not being in this biz...not saying that's you but it's certainly true.)

Great post - this is a perfect example of how NOT to start an internet business.

I'm not trying to be funny or mean spirited - it is how most people do start out and why frustrations boil over. A very select few work their way through this and eventually stumble on something highly profitable, but most don;t

Okay - what is lacking here is a system where you take a given market and systematically test for response.

For example, it could be a Clickbank product where you systematically perform keyword research (which is more than just finding keywords by the way, it is actually selecting the high ROI keywords), then systematically forward a few hundred unique visitors to either an intermediate landing page or directly to the sales page and test response.

If your results are poor, then you know that within a couple of days and you move to the next niche or next product.

In the meantime you systematically perform market research looking for patterns of products that are selling to hungry markets - sort of re-engineer successful businesses and products. That will give you BIGTIME clues as to what is hot and what is not (and you are right, MOST of it is NOT)

how do I know you are not using systems?

There is no way you should be doing 80% of what you are doing (ex. blogging, article writing, expanded PPC, Yahoo Answers, Social Bookmarking, etc....UNTIL AFTER you have found a money-maker)

What you want to do is systematically research and test to find a winner (your own product or existing product) with combination of keywords, copy and product that do convert AND THEN you can go crazy generating traffic.

I do this in niche after niche and out of testing some 30 + different niche/product combinations I have 12 products in 4 niches that make me many times what you list per product...the trick is finding the hot sellers and then quickly validating through testing before you put huge effort into expanding traffic.

The great thing about this approach is that when you DO find a winner, you can really maximize return by list building, offering additional products, evolving your own product offerings, licensing, etc...

Jeff

Hi Vivax

The truth is simple. You haven't failed until you quit...so don't quit! You've gotta see this as a long term project.

Your list of work is impressive! One thing you haven't mentioned is mentoring. Have a look at this guy.....he's very good!!

marketingwithyou.infusionsoft.com/go/gurun/joefizz

Have a look at his latest ebook and see what you think.

HTH

Joe

It seems like you were doing a lot and don't have the income to show for your work. I understand your frustration. Hopefully one of the Warriors will be able to help get you more traffic to your sites. So that you want have to quit.

Got to agree with most of the above get
laser target focused on an element of Marketing that you really love Perhaps writing ad copy, creating video... Just find a strategy you LOVE then be really consistent with the strategy.

Did you make sure to use the google adwords keyword tool for each niche, for "exact phrase"? I dont see it in your list. It doesnt matter if you have 10 or 100 niche sites, if the keywords youre targeting only have a search volume of 10 or so a month you're not going to make any dough. Also, have you made use of any backlink packets? How high are you ranking in google? If you want to be in the top 3, for high volume search keywords, you need LOTS of backlinks. Ezine articles alone wont cut it, you need diverse backlinks.

I don't see Backlinks on your list. You should spend as much time, if not more, on Backlinks. I'd say pm me for more info but it doesn't look like you have enough posts to do that.

Dont give up my friend, ive been down the same road and the main thing is to find something you have knowledge about and go from there. Its not easy but with time it will have its rewards trust me ! :O)

Good luck

It sounds like you've done a lot of dabbling, but haven't stuck to any one thing long enough to make it work for you.

20 blogs in several different niches? I'd be in over MY head from that alone, trying to do everything by myself.

I'll tell you a little secret...

It's true that some people here make money through different business models and have multiple streams of income. CPA, products about CPA, maybe some site flipping, more than likely several lists, etc.

But ya know... there are only 24 hours in a day. No matter who or where you are, we all have the same 24 hours.

How then, do these people do so much?

THEY OUTSOURCE.

They hire someone ELSE to write their articles, design their graphics, develop their websites, do keyword research, build backlinks, and hell - outsource the whole product itself. If they did everything themselves there's no way - no F**KING way - they'd get very far.

How then, do you get to that outsourcing stage?

You first have to get beyond your mental roadblocks. You have to reprogram your mind into working for yourself, and for building on your success. Start small. Pick ONE business model. I started making money by writing articles for others, and still occasionally ghostwrite (though I don't actively advertise it anymore). If you can do any sort of "outsourceable" work, if you will, you'll not only get some start-up capital for your other endeavors, but it'll drive the point home that, "Hey, I'm actually making money with this Interweb thing." Then you use THAT money to reinvest into whatever else you want to do.

Is this a walk in the park? No. Is there an income ceiling? No. Life's dictated by the choices we make. No one will stop you if you decide to quit, but success is yours for the taking - that is, if you so choose.

I've been meditating on this quote lately: "The most powerful force in the universe is compound interest" - Einstein

That, and if you haven't seen it already, I highly recommend watching Kung Fu Panda. It's not just another movie with Jack Black - it has a really good message behind it.

That's one of your problems amigo, try ignoring these guys





If you can get a little more



Then surely, you will make more

What a brilliant post. Love all the fantastic responses. Ok, guess I'd best add my bit to the collection.

Vivax, I wondered about the kinds of sites you have out there, and work you'd done. As you had no signature with your message, I decided to look at your profile. Nope, still no success. For someone who's desperately wanting online presence, I could not believe that two basics of forum participation and the opportunity of back-linking was neglected. Is that the mind set of an entrepreneur?

Here is an article I wrote a while back Making Money With An Online Business and here's a free ebook Online Visible Web - 35 Free Online Promotion Ideas, also written a while back however most of it still applies.

Do you have a mailing list and have a way for site visitors to add themselves to a series of email from you? People buy from people they like and/or trust. In your post there wasn't one live URL that I could visit, to even begin to get connected and find out more about you. Get a good quality Autoresponder service.

"Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap, but by the seeds you plant." -Robert Louis Stevenson

Start giving more of yourself and create pages like Free eBook - 179 Forward Steps and The Power Of Concentration by Theron Q. Dumont to begin building a fan base. Be hugely generous and offer products that would really support people who are interested in your topic.

Do you have your own products or are you always an affiliate? Having your own product enables you to take up so many more opportunities, such as Next Top Author or Self Improvement Summit and Time For My Life: 365 Stepping Stones Affiliate Information.

Who are your online friends? Look at the collective hours spent by generous people who brought you the contributions and ideas listed at this post, alone! Are you that generous with others? Reciprocation and paying it forward are key. A rising tide raises all boats e.g. Spread Wealth And Share Self Growth!

Here are a few lines that I have posted at my desk, for me to see daily:

-You are paid for your outcomes and results, not for your hours spent.
-The more you solve, the more you sell.
-Your sales process is the profit nervous system of your entire business. (Do you have a system?)
-Don't do what you can't measure and don't measure what you can't change.
-Whatever you focus on WILL expand.
-Success is the progressive accomplishment of personally worthwhile long range goals.

What are your personal, large goals for the year. Do you have clarity in where you want to go? Why do you want money and how much will you need to achieve that? What's your bigger picture? Hop over to this forum post at Warrior Forum and add your personal challenge here http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...ml#post1713202

I'll leave you with these quotes:

Don't bring your need to the marketplace, bring your skill. If you don't feel well, tell your doctor, but not the marketplace. If you need money, go to the bank, but not the marketplace. -Jim Rohn

If I lack the courage to start, I have already finished.

If you would spend 80% of your ad money making your existing customers feel like kings, you could get one customer to bring you another customer just like them - by Word-of-Mouth advertising. That would double your business and keep your customers loyal - what a concept...Jeffrey Gitomer

Wherever you see a successful business, someone once made a courageous decision...Peter Drucker

I do hope that all the wonderful and generous contributions at this post will give you courage to continue forward. Don't leave before the miracle happens!

There's much more I could have added here. I'll leave it for others to continue this great conversation.

I've PM'ed you . . . have a look

Chris-

Hey vivax, read and absorb the quote below...

Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison.

Hope it motivates you.

Thanks,
^PV Reymond

I would spend a lot of time doing keyword reasearch. Even the whole day if necessary. Find one good keyword phrase and get the .com, .net or .org name. Example: bestfishfinders.com. Dont get the name with hyphens in it.

Build a nice wordpress blog and host it yourself. Submit three good articles to ezinearticles and then backlink the hell out of the articles with many of the methods outlined in this forum.

Just slowly get several high quality backlinks to your blog. Maybe one per day.

Your content must be 100% original. This will rank the best. Write it yourself or outsource it. Maybe build a lens or hub and point it to your money sites. Build tons of links to these sites.

Just work on this one blog for a while until you see some money come in. You can use adsense, amazon, affiliate or a combination of all of these.

This is what I have been doing lately and I'm starting to finally see some free traffic.

Good luck,

Brad

I hate to say it like this.... but just quit if that's your attitude.

Wow Vivax - We must be in a parallel universe as I was having exactly the same thoughts as you. I was on the forum tonight looking for a good keyword research tool, and somehow ended up on this thread. I just took a couple of months off from the IM thing, but I kept a diary of my progress that I did over the last year, and decided that I had put too much work into it to quit.

I guess I just wanted to thank everyone for posting, as not only have you helped Vivax, but you've also helped me to realize that I have also been trying to do too many things, and therefore overwhelming myself. I'm going to focus on 2 or 3 similar sites that I have up and running and then concentrate on the article marketing and maybe videos as I really like writing and creating videos. Then, I'll move on to backlinks, and then ... who knows? I'm just not going to go insane anymore by trying to do it all.

I definitely think that taking a little time off was a good thing for me. Reading all of the feedback just reinforces my decision to give it another go. It really helps to know that many of you have made it work. There's not too many people in my life who are supportive or understand what I'm trying to do.

Thanks again everybody.

The Hardest part of IM i had was going from one thing to the next and (pardon my french) Staying on warrior forum all day looking for the next big thing! lol. I only started making real money when i concentrated on 1 thing at a time and persisted with it.

Hold on there, get an expert to check your work and get some recommendations. I gotta a feeling you just need to tweak a few things and boom, Kaching! Please dont give up.

I think you are right, as they say over here in Norther Ireland, "get your head showered" and take a step backwards and see how you feel in about 7 days time or so. I think as "affjourney" has said, you might actually not be that far off cracking it so don't necessarily give up just yet.

It might just be as another poster has said, look at your sites, go for the one with the most revenue (albeit how little) and traffic and try and maximise that with new articles, promotions, links campaigns etc and then as and when that starets to show an improivement start to look at your other sites.

The other things is that no matter what has happened over the past 2 years or so you will have learned something and therefore the key thing is to apply what you have learned and is there any way you can capitalise on that? For example, did you find writing articles enjopyable, were you any good at it and if so for a few hours a day could you go out as a "hired gun" to someone else. It might not be that much straight away but it might also be something and that something is more likely to be what you are getting back now.

The trouble is that there are so many snake oil salesmen out there peddling the dream that it is all so easy and that if you follow their plans you will be making $100 by the end of the day. The reality as you have just found out is that it ain't necessarily that easy.

Don't give up.

Pfft 1 year and your already giving up. Follow a proven system and do all that work you did in your original post on ONE site for now.

Good luck....and dont give up.

Ok so I havent got many posts on this site so I could just be some idiot for all you know but then you really dont know that do you?
If I were you I would start by going to where the traffic already is rather than flogging a dead horse like you have been trying in vain to get it all to come to you.
Ebay is a good place to learn how to market on the internet because you can rersearch how well people are doing and study and emulate people that are already doing well.
How do you do this?
First find a seller that has tens of thousands of feedback and look at the way he or she writes listings (concentrate on material products at first before you look at marketing guru type stuff).
Look at what the most popular products that they are selling are, how the copy is written in the listings, how images are used and most importantly how the seller is percieved by buyers via feedback and dsr's and how they are getting those good ratings.
Use the pulse pages to research products (these are the most watched items in a particular category and on the entire site - people that sell snake oil have scammed the ebay pulse pages in the past so im sure some of the more clued up people on this site will know what im talking about).
Customers are listed (that all important internet marketing guru list) and repeat marketed using email and other methods.
When you move onto informational products you can use the same research techniques and realise residual income potentials via subscription sites and services etc.
If you learn how to sell of lot of stuff on the internet and then sell a lot of stuff on the internet, guess what, you will be successful in IM and have no problems selling what you are trying to sell now (internet marketing guru stuff).
goofbay.com has some interesting tools that can be used to find out how many people are watching a particular listing and the advanced search feature in ebay search is good for looking at listings that closed and sold (or didnt sell).
google is a good place to source products in asia.
heres an example of what im talking about:

h**p://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300392114249&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

he's sold about 1800 of them and made about £2.50 on each one.

100 of those sales are in that last three days as can be seen here:

h**p://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=300392114249

Its sourced here:

h**p://banggood.com/Wholesale-Usb-3-Fan-Notebook-Or-Laptop-Cool-Cooler-Cooling-Pad-led-p-5358.html

(sorry to break the rules mods but its not like im spamming and your anti spamming script aint too smart is it?)

and you look on google to find it.
Then there is amazon as another platform that is already built for you like ebay and then there is google but first learn how to sell and research what to sell.

The problem is that you are not an IM guru yet and you dont have the traffic or list that you need to be one.
The good news is that you can still make money (more than $50 a day) building your list and traffic) and the easiest to do it is to sell stuff make a profit doing that and get your list and traffic together while you are making that money.
Hope you can get something out of this.
I have to go and deal wqith a parcel that has just arrived.
So yeah, like I said maybe im just some know nothing idiot, or maybe not, who would know?
What ive just written is what people are looking to buy from guru's whereas your post at the top of the thread tells me that you are not ready to sell that type of product.

You'll thank me for this...

I'm watching this free video right now from a Warrior who claims he made $100k in 3 months but not without some struggles that is probably worse than yours...



NOW GET BACK TO WORK!

I'm not allowed to promote his URL but the name of the free video is zero down traffic, google it!

A lot of good people have already spoken on this for you but my 2 cents...take the word "quit" out of your vocabulary!

The main advice on this thread has been:

1) Focus
2) Follow a proven system.

OK, cool guys. That's pretty obvious.

The answer for him is not WHAT he has to do, but HOW he can do these.

VERY few of the people who have thrown their opinion in and responded with either (1) Focus or (2) Follow a system have actually told the OP HOW to focus, and how to follow a system (i.e. what system).

For all the people who have suggested these, why don't you tell the OP how to choose a niche/product to focus on when he seems to be having none producing any cash.

And what he is doing wrong in his current system, as well as where he can look for a start-finish basic system to implement that does work.

Don't give up Vivax. DO NOT GIVE UP

I think your problems are:

Keyword/niche research. If you pick a niche that doesn't have the converting numbers you won't make money no matter how much marketing you do. This is where most people get it wrong. Spend more time on research

Mindset - if you believe it won't happen then it wont happen. Try to feel good about what you are doing. You want to make a better life for yourself - financial freedom. That is great.

Take a little break- a week off. Get clear on what you want. Do a lot of research. And then do one thing at a time.

Learn from your failures and others.

You can make $50 a day. Don't give up

You need not do that much at all mate. Just concentrate on one thing. Either be an affiliate, or start niche blogs or PPC or anything else.

Think it like this: A person can't design a building, invest in it and build it alone. There are specializations.

Karan

I agree with what other Warriors said to you, try to just focus to one blogs that really make you money, build traffic to that blogs, build your brand and trust to your visitor, don't just build spam blogs.

Until the blogs have enough visitors, make them be your regular visitor, then start building your list, once you have your list you can start offering you stuff through email.

You can also make an announcement through your blogs to your regular visitor about what you are doing now. Everything takes time to get the result you always wanted to, online bizz is the same as offline biz, take a good care of it.

Don't quit.... just advance in ANOTHER direction... perhaps using a different "model" than what you've been using.

~ JIM

Your problem lies in your business model.

It lies in the strategy you use to make money online.

Create one model and stick with it.

Doesn't matter if you fail, you'll learn to succeed.

Read the report I gave you. Print it. Read it and make notes.

You're going to change your life with that report.

I bet you on that.

Buddy, I've just been skimming through all the posts very quickly and I see a trend that, well...focus on one or two things ONLY! I'm just going to reinforce their opinions because it really looks like you're trying to do everything at once, I know, Internet Marketing cliche, but hey you've had no success doing all that stuff at once.

So change it up and do one thing that you've found actually made you money and become crazy good at it, then if you feel you've mastered it you can if you want to move on to the next thing, but don't neglect what you've mastered, as if you fail at what you are doing next, you always have something to fall back on.

You've probably heard this a million times, but if it just takes one more WarriorForum member to give you that kick in the ass you need to follow the majority advice given then let me try to be that one. If not, well there's tons of them out there, and I hope the next poster will say the same thing, or something similar.

I disgaree with everyone. I make 95% of my income from one online business and I don't like the fact that it can go down at any time and I will be left flat, with nothing, starting from ground zero again.

I like your approach of building a diversified income source. That is not "spreading yourself too thin" that is smart planning. However your business model needs a serious makeover. Blogs? Give me a break. Those take years to get going and are extremely labor-intensive. You would be way better off with static websites (that include a blog for SEO purposes only).

It is pretty much 100% guaranteed that your problem so far is really based on one or more of these factors, probably all of them:

1. Choosing bad markets (faulty keyword research)
2. Your landing pages suck (blogs, yuck)
3. The products you choose to promote don't convert well (bad sales pages)

Aside from that, affiliate marketing of digital products through long-tail keyword SEO techniques is getting tougher and tougher. That may no longer be the most solid rock to build a castle upon.

Start well by doing good market research and decide what businesses you want to really be in. That makes everything else a whole lot easier.

First, focus on 1 site.

Secondly, Instead of wasting time... Why don't you give in and try taking help of an SEO service provider... for a nominal fee you could get the traffic you wanted... Go to the Warriors For Hire here or any other forum or site and you can find good SEO specialists with proven track record. If you are smart enough you will be able to learn something out of the process plus get traffic to your site too.

Now, you go the traffic, monetize it with products or other means.

Remember, you pay the SEO guy once while the profit for you will be recurring. Now, move on to the next site... repeat the same. And in the meanwhile, get to know what the SEO guy does and you start working on that method on another site while the SEO professional is working on the site you paid him for. Wait and watch.

If you follow this religiously for 3 months, I would say you will be sitting comfortably with a neat flow of funds and certainly, you will have a social life

Cheers

Aravind

Wow Vivax,

i really impressed by what you have done. You are so hardworking, I mean it by heart, really. If it is me, sure i will quite immediately if I create so many blogs/products/article and still not making money. But you are still staying in IM, this is good.

I am thinking the only problem you are having is the lack of "focus". Forgot everything that you have learn, really unlearn everything. Take a few days break. When you have calm down, try only 1 of the method/strategy that suit your personal strength, then keep focus your energy on that until you make money.

Hope you will be success soon!

I think you are doing to much - I'm there also! Trying to begin to focus and concentrate on one or two things now.

Wow!!!! I do not have a different answer than what is already said. Dropped in to simply appreciate the attitude of people on this forum. Man this is great..already 3 pages.

@Vivax

If you have trouble getting your own campaigns profitable, do some freelancing. The reason I say this is, freelancing will give you an opportunity to see what others are doing and also get you some money. With all taht you know, I am sure you wil not have a problem getting some "related" work.

Vivax, I would not say you are stupid or untalented. One of the big problems I see with IM is not enough is usually given in the lower price courses to get past a certain point. Even some of the higher priced courses.

Another huge hurdle is getting enough backlinks from good places. Bookmarks tend to fall off quickly, so it is best to get backlinks a variety of ways.

You have done more than probably a third or more of the visitors to the warrior forum will do. It was good to ask for suggestions. It can get very discouraging. Don't be hard on yourself, The majority get stuck at times along the way without a roadmap.

So you have gotten the message to focus, but what to do now???? Crew Cheif had two websites that would help you. In addition:

I think your ebook at clickbank would be a good choice to work on next. I say this because if you can get conversions to a acceptable percentage, you can go after affiliates who will do a lot of the traffic generating for you.

When I check candidayeastexposed.com, Yahoo has Inlinks of 111 and Google Results about 279. For a niche like that, you are going to need a lot more backlinks.

For your competition on the keyword candida yeast, yeastconnection.com - Inlinks in yahoo -1,765 and is #3 in Google. See the difference?

Backlinks serve a couple purposes. Search engines like backlinks, they are like a vote from another website, which in time accumulates moving you up the rankings. In additon, in the right place they will bring you fresh traffic, interested in your topic. You probably know that.

Refer to what you have purchased and search here on the forum about backlinks and go to work getting backlinks. I always prefer paying for some packages, rather than doing it myself, although I do it myself do at times.... It can be a big energy and time drain doing it all by yourself.

Some backlinks packages can take 2 or 3 months for Google to find most of them, so it is a gradual thing. Don' get discouraged, just keep up some links.

If you don't want to do backlinks, then you have the choice of advertising on other sites to get traffic or use pay per click advertising. Your choice, but start small and work up if you choose to do those.

If you like to write articles, continue to write articles to put on your candida sites and some in the directories. Are there more directories you have not used, or isnare.com, that you could use to post ones you already have up?

We have a copywriting forum here. Ask in there for suggestions on bettering the copywriting of your sales letter. Make changes and see if it converts better.

When you get good conversion for that site, then go after affiliates. Do searches on the forum for those topics and look into what you have purchased, without buying any more info.

So that is
1.Backlinks
2. Copywriting
3. Work on conversion
4. Get affiliates.

Also your blog candidadieoff.info - host it on another server if you are not. Your backlinks to the clickbank site will count a little bit more. Take off the dieting material. It does not belong there. Focus on Candida. Do some spell checking. I am not a good speller, but I see several misspells.

I hope that has been helpful.

Jeannie

Here's a suggestion... DON'T QUIT!

In your heading you said "...but after more then a year of failure I am about to quit IM!"

The only real failure is the "failure to participate" - quitting is our real failure.

Sure it's not easy... but why waste 2 years of incredible learning. Bet you'd be amazed at what you know now compared to back then.

All you gotta do is "press on toward the goal" ... and this is coming from someone in a very similar position!

So... why not take the very best strategy from your list of 'tried', then hone it, test it and get it to make just $1 ... if you can make $1, then get it to make $10... then $20 you see where Im going here right...

Get really, really good at just one strategy...thats where you'll see your reward!

Press on friend...

I have been following this post I know in alot of posts talk about stick to one thing. I have just been doing article marketing. I have made a few sales from doing it. I thought about outsourcing my article writing but to me its a hit or miss in terms of getting sales and I dont want to be wasting money outsourcing articles. plus its not really a good business model. I'm not quitting I just got to step back and figure out a better business model..I will keep following this post great advice..

Wow, you seem to have tried everything! Maybe that could be the problem is that you spread out too much that you don't focus on one thing.

For example many people say quality is better than quantity. It's good to make the most of your time but sometimes when you take on too many things you lose your focus on the other projects.

You might want to create a concise business plan at least you won't be doing one thing and then dumping it for another then dumping that to move on again.

I guess in live nothing is easy; that's just the way it is! But hard work, wisdom, being prudent, and preserverance will help a lot. I guess you already worked hard but you might want to try to focus onto one thing.

Just my suggestion, I struggle with this issue as well. I tend to expand too fast before building a good foundation. AS with everything you need a good foundation to expand but it's just so hard and so tempting to keep moving on.

Best wishes to you!
Benjamin

thanks for all your PM's, but I can't reply to them, so please leave an email.

OK guys, I',ve decided: I'm not quitting!

I am going back to my clickbank ebook, I just have to figure out what is it that I could do next, that I haven't done already. I will leave all my other sites alone for now and just focus on my product.
Wish me luck and inspiration cause I'm very confused right now.

I made the decision this morning, opened up my laptop with determination to go on working... and after an hour or so found myself just sitting in front of the computer thinking: what now? What should I do next?

IM is a business and the learning curve can be big. I'd suggest focusing on something you love to do... and aim to make just $1 out of it. That's how I started and am now F/T on the net.

Vivax -

Wow - you've been thru a lot!!

I felt the same way for several months and wanted to throw in the towel! - but I kept plugging away - I made my 1st sale this last christmas - made only $12 - i promoted an amazon product with a squidoo lense. Even though the sale was small amount - it convinced me that it is possible to make money online!
I still work my full time job(50+ hrs/week), spend time with the wife and kids, take the kids to soccer / baseball practice.... The only time I have for myself is late at night - during this time, I spend learning the business. For me - I realize that to make it in this business - I needed to educate myself, dedicate time to work the business and concentrate & focus on one system.

I'm glad to see that you are not quitting - hang in there!

Good Luck and best wishes in your journey to success!!

lenyjay

Vivax, seems to me that you've tried a little bit of everything without actually focussing your efforts singularly in one particular direction.

Looking at all the articles you've submitted, you could've easily been a freelance article writer, made 200 bucks (which should take a week, tops) and then used the money to get into website flipping.

Had you done that, you would've reached a monthly income of a 1000-1500 bucks withing the first two months itself !
AND, you'd be surprised at how it grows once you've reached that threshold...

For what is worth I will help you if I can!!!! send me your sites info. let me look at them.

I'm not rejecting reality.I am well aware that I need proper training, I just don't have the trainer and money to spend on expensive membership sites and coaching programs. I've already spent enough on wso's and courses wanting to get the training, but either the coach was bad or I am.

I've been through the Thirty day Challenge, and I know about StevenR courses, although I am not a war room member, I got the super simple blogging and the stealth blogging course, I went through them several times.
Maybe I should just start over with them since you think it covers the basics that I don't have.

Nothing worth accomplishing in life is easy.

Are you truly applying the information from the products and services you have purchased?

Maybe your belief system is problem. Do you believe you will be successful?
If what your doing is not working, do you try new things or keep doing same non producing things?

There are thousands of ways to profit online, there IS NO MAGIC WAND that you wave and voila your a millionaire.

I suggest

1) Believe in your product
2)get a professional sales copy writer to write you a sales page and ad
3)believe in yourself - believe you will be a success
4)FOCUS on one type of promotion at first
a tree starts as a seed only when its grown up does it branch out develop your roots
ie blogs, articles, ads, social media, email, sms etc.....

Vivax, Do you have an outline of what to do step by step for your sites and marketing?
Do you make yourself a to do list for each day? Do you set time limits on how long to spend on each item on your checklist per day?

Spend no more than 1 1/2 to 2 hours and then get up for a 15 minute break. It helps you keep from getting burnt out.

If you don't guide and discipline yourself, it can stretch out into inaction and confusion.
Following a checklist gives you a series of things to do, and in time leads to a completed project that is working well.

You have done the learning for the most part. Now make your self a roadmap. Make your checklists. Step by step. It cuts way back on confusion and indecision.

This is the difference between working for someone else that tells you what to do each step of the way and working for yourself. YOU have to set up the agenda and then follow it, motivating yourself.

If you cannot do that, you most likely will continue as you are.

Jeannie

You got waaaay too much going on at one time. You're in 20 different niches attempting to sell clickbank products, at the same time trying to sell at least 5 different amazon products, and your own product.

If you tried doing 5 different jobs in your day job at the same time, would you be able to get anything done? I doubt it, unless you happen to have the abilities of a Marvel Comics superhero.

So why are you doing the same thing here?

Here's what I would do if I were you: Ditch all the surrounding bull****, and focus on getting traffic to the product that got you the 4 sales. Make it your mission to sell that product, and sell that product only! Do nothing else but work that like a rented mule, and you might get somewhere.

You're working too hard, scale it back and work smart instead.