A question for those making over $1,000 a month blogging

15 years ago

Hey,

I'll give you 1 little tip here.. after 13 years online, after failing many times and scoring many more times; I would say focus on 1 blog.

do NOT use auto content generator.

Be passionate about what you do, do it right.

If you're wondering how many articles you gotta write per day, I'd say, its not a formula! when you feel like writing, do it.

Always put yourself in the place of your reader, make sure that every article you write would add value to the user and most importantly would make them want to come back and revisit your blog/site more often.

Build your list, just don't over push it.

Slowly, Google will show you love and give you the traffic you deserve.

Monetizing?

1- AdSense (I am not a big fan)
2- Chitika.com (Cool)
3- Affiliate products (Good)
4- Sell your own products (Excellent)
5- Build up your list (a Must)
6- Build your social network (A must)
7- Sell Ad. Space (cool)
8- after spending some time on your blog, and giving it what it deserves, you'll certainly find many many other ways to monetize the blog. You never know, maybe you'll end up making 2 to 4K a month and sell it for 100K+ or scale it even bigger.

I hope this helps, but let me end it up with 1 thing, the secret to success is: Taking Action.. don't keep thinking about how to make it happen, Just go and do it

Good luck,
Rami

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matrix1989

15 years ago

Originally Posted by steitieh

Hey,

I'll give you 1 little tip here.. after 13 years online, after failing many times and scoring many more times; I would say focus on 1 blog.

do NOT use auto content generator.

Be passionate about what you do, do it right.

If you're wondering how many articles you gotta write per day, I'd say, its not a formula! when you feel like writing, do it.

Always put yourself in the place of your reader, make sure that every article you write would add value to the user and most importantly would make them want to come back and revisit your blog/site more often.

Build your list, just don't over push it.

Slowly, Google will show you love and give you the traffic you deserve.

Monetizing?

1- AdSense (I am not a big fan)
2- Chitika.com (Cool)
3- Affiliate products (Good)
4- Sell your own products (Excellent)
5- Build up your list (a Must)
6- Build your social network (A must)
7- Sell Ad. Space (cool)
8- after spending some time on your blog, and giving it what it deserves, you'll certainly find many many other ways to monetize the blog. You never know, maybe you'll end up making 2 to 4K a month and sell it for 100K+ or scale it even bigger.

I hope this helps, but let me end it up with 1 thing, the secret to success is: Taking Action.. don't keep thinking about how to make it happen, Just go and do it

Good luck,
Rami

cha-ching
totally agree here. While i'm new I can tell you that my success has been because I stuck to ONE thing, and even though I've had to alter course and shift my focus a bit, I promise that if you can focus on one evergreen method you will build the skillset that will allow you to make many many blogs all of which can be profitable.

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enwereuzo

15 years ago

Originally Posted by steitieh

Hey,

I'll give you 1 little tip here.. after 13 years online, after failing many times and scoring many more times; I would say focus on 1 blog.

do NOT use auto content generator.

Be passionate about what you do, do it right.

If you're wondering how many articles you gotta write per day, I'd say, its not a formula! when you feel like writing, do it.

Always put yourself in the place of your reader, make sure that every article you write would add value to the user and most importantly would make them want to come back and revisit your blog/site more often.

Build your list, just don't over push it.

Slowly, Google will show you love and give you the traffic you deserve.

Monetizing?

1- AdSense (I am not a big fan)
2- Chitika.com (Cool)
3- Affiliate products (Good)
4- Sell your own products (Excellent)
5- Build up your list (a Must)
6- Build your social network (A must)
7- Sell Ad. Space (cool)
8- after spending some time on your blog, and giving it what it deserves, you'll certainly find many many other ways to monetize the blog. You never know, maybe you'll end up making 2 to 4K a month and sell it for 100K+ or scale it even bigger.

I hope this helps, but let me end it up with 1 thing, the secret to success is: Taking Action.. don't keep thinking about how to make it happen, Just go and do it

Good luck,
Rami

Good business model.

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Oliver Denton

15 years ago

Excellent response man. Excellent Excellent Excellent.

Originally Posted by steitieh

Hey,

I'll give you 1 little tip here.. after 13 years online, after failing many times and scoring many more times; I would say focus on 1 blog.

do NOT use auto content generator.

Be passionate about what you do, do it right.

If you're wondering how many articles you gotta write per day, I'd say, its not a formula! when you feel like writing, do it.

Always put yourself in the place of your reader, make sure that every article you write would add value to the user and most importantly would make them want to come back and revisit your blog/site more often.

Build your list, just don't over push it.

Slowly, Google will show you love and give you the traffic you deserve.

Monetizing?

1- AdSense (I am not a big fan)
2- Chitika.com (Cool)
3- Affiliate products (Good)
4- Sell your own products (Excellent)
5- Build up your list (a Must)
6- Build your social network (A must)
7- Sell Ad. Space (cool)
8- after spending some time on your blog, and giving it what it deserves, you'll certainly find many many other ways to monetize the blog. You never know, maybe you'll end up making 2 to 4K a month and sell it for 100K+ or scale it even bigger.

I hope this helps, but let me end it up with 1 thing, the secret to success is: Taking Action.. don't keep thinking about how to make it happen, Just go and do it

Good luck,
Rami

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TomC123

15 years ago

Originally Posted by steitieh

Hey,

I'll give you 1 little tip here.. after 13 years online, after failing many times and scoring many more times; I would say focus on 1 blog.

do NOT use auto content generator.

Be passionate about what you do, do it right.

If you're wondering how many articles you gotta write per day, I'd say, its not a formula! when you feel like writing, do it.

Always put yourself in the place of your reader, make sure that every article you write would add value to the user and most importantly would make them want to come back and revisit your blog/site more often.

Build your list, just don't over push it.

Slowly, Google will show you love and give you the traffic you deserve.

Monetizing?

1- AdSense (I am not a big fan)
2- Chitika.com (Cool)
3- Affiliate products (Good)
4- Sell your own products (Excellent)
5- Build up your list (a Must)
6- Build your social network (A must)
7- Sell Ad. Space (cool)
8- after spending some time on your blog, and giving it what it deserves, you'll certainly find many many other ways to monetize the blog. You never know, maybe you'll end up making 2 to 4K a month and sell it for 100K+ or scale it even bigger.

I hope this helps, but let me end it up with 1 thing, the secret to success is: Taking Action.. don't keep thinking about how to make it happen, Just go and do it

Good luck,
Rami

I agree with you but I'm a big fan of adsense. cool

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Vic Shake

15 years ago

You have to stick with 1 blog and build a massive reader base on your blog,

your 1 blog can create multiple streams of income for you.

From affiliate sales to renting space. etc.

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Honestly not the answer I was expecting. Thanks.

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steitieh 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

Honestly not the answer I was expecting. Thanks.

Then just re-phrase your question! honestly

Rami
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Ofthemix

15 years ago

It's not that the question needs to be rephrased. I'm just used to hearing that you need around 100 blogs to make a decent profit online. It's not often I hear, "just one".

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steitieh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

It's not that the question needs to be rephrased. I'm just used to hearing that you need around 100 blogs to make a decent profit online. It's not often I hear, "just one".

Anybody creating 100+ blogs online is certainly either using Autoblogging (which sometimes end up to be profitable short term and I do not recommend it at all due to bad experiences) or is managing a multi-million dollar company with lots of writers, support staff managing authentic 100 blogs of big scales.

If you're after the short term profit "with blogs" I am sorry, I am not the right guy to give you advice not because I dont know, but because I wouldnt want anybody to live the experience I lived.

Rami

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bgmacaw

15 years ago

Originally Posted by steitieh

Anybody creating 100+ blogs online is certainly either using Autoblogging ... or is managing a multi-million dollar company with lots of writers, support staff managing authentic 100 blogs of big scales.

Or knows how to spin plates really well...

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statelizard

15 years ago

In reality it's the same as any other site. It depends on your niche, it depends on your content, and it depends on your marketing. The people that use 100's of blogs are "fisherman" they cast a wide net and eventually they'll catch the big one, but in the meantime they get enough little fish to have a decent meal.

People that only run 1 blog are only hunting for that one big fish. Sure you can monetize your blog in numerous different ways, but if your blogging about something that nobody cares about, all of those potential revenue streams mean nothing, because nobody's reading it.

The real answer isn't found in a hard and fast number. It's about what you can do, what you feel comfortable doing, and the kind of quality you can produce. If you have the time and energy to run multiple blogs, then by all means that is the way to go. If you want to update your blog with a quality posting 12 times a day, then you'll probably only want to run 1 or 2 blogs. If you're fine updating once a day, or a couple times a week then you'll be fine running multiple blogs.

The real key to being a successful blogger, is to find something that interests people, and keep them interested enough to keep coming back to your blog. Then figure out how to make money from that. The number of blogs that you run can only be decided by you and the business strategy that you decide upon. Both ways can be successful. I know bloggers that make 6 figures from a single blog and I know bloggers that make 6 figures by running 50+ blogs. What it boils down to is gaining a market share, and if you can do it with one blog, then you've got the talent to do it with multiple blogs. On the other hand, if you can't gain any readers with one blog, you probably won't be able to gain any running multiple blogs at the same time either.

It boils down deciding who your target audience is and giving them what they want. You have to do that for each blog, doesn't matter if your running 1 or 1,000. Unless your blogs are linked somehow, you are going to have a different target audience for each one. Find a good market, figure out how to sell it, and once you do that you can do it for as many other blogs as you have time for.

Like everything else in business there is no one size fits all answer, if there were everyone would be rich, and the people that found the answers first would be wiping their arses with golden toilet paper.

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mogulmedia

15 years ago

Originally Posted by statelizard

In reality it's the same as any other site. It depends on your niche, it depends on your content, and it depends on your marketing. The people that use 100's of blogs are "fisherman" they cast a wide net and eventually they'll catch the big one, but in the meantime they get enough little fish to have a decent meal.

People that only run 1 blog are only hunting for that one big fish. Sure you can monetize your blog in numerous different ways, but if your blogging about something that nobody cares about, all of those potential revenue streams mean nothing, because nobody's reading it.

The real answer isn't found in a hard and fast number. It's about what you can do, what you feel comfortable doing, and the kind of quality you can produce. If you have the time and energy to run multiple blogs, then by all means that is the way to go. If you want to update your blog with a quality posting 12 times a day, then you'll probably only want to run 1 or 2 blogs. If you're fine updating once a day, or a couple times a week then you'll be fine running multiple blogs.

The real key to being a successful blogger, is to find something that interests people, and keep them interested enough to keep coming back to your blog. Then figure out how to make money from that. The number of blogs that you run can only be decided by you and the business strategy that you decide upon. Both ways can be successful. I know bloggers that make 6 figures from a single blog and I know bloggers that make 6 figures by running 50+ blogs. What it boils down to is gaining a market share, and if you can do it with one blog, then you've got the talent to do it with multiple blogs. On the other hand, if you can't gain any readers with one blog, you probably won't be able to gain any running multiple blogs at the same time either.

It boils down deciding who your target audience is and giving them what they want. You have to do that for each blog, doesn't matter if your running 1 or 1,000. Unless your blogs are linked somehow, you are going to have a different target audience for each one. Find a good market, figure out how to sell it, and once you do that you can do it for as many other blogs as you have time for.

Like everything else in business there is no one size fits all answer, if there were everyone would be rich, and the people that found the answers first would be wiping their arses with golden toilet paper.

my .02

Josh

Couldn't have it better myself, totally agree!

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E. Brian Rose

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

It's not that the question needs to be rephrased. I'm just used to hearing that you need around 100 blogs to make a decent profit online. It's not often I hear, "just one".

You are getting too much information from people that are pretending to be successful, rather than getting the right information from people that are successful.

Read the article "Beware of Internet Marketing Forums that Can Make You Stupid". It's on the Internet Marketing Strategies link in my sig.

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

You are getting too much information from people that are pretending to be successful, rather than getting the right information from people that are successful.

Read the article "Beware of Internet Marketing Forums that Can Make You Stupid". It's on the Internet Marketing Strategies link in my sig.

lol No offese, but I wouldn't still be hanging around here if I hadn't learned something from this forum that has made me money online.

I'm not an internet marketing failure . . . but I don't have some huge success story to share either. I'm just looking for a way to modify my business plan into something I actually enjoy doing.

To everyone else, thanks for all of your input. It's greatly appreciated.

I was wondering, myself, how I would be able to manage so many blogs. I own a few blogs that aren't bringing in much, but that's mainly due to inexperience (bad keyword research) I used when I created them, and general lack of maintenance.

I've been slowly getting sucked into the idea of autoblogging . . . and have used some of the tactics in the past, which surprisingly proved to be profitable Adsense wise. So, I started reading up on it in the War Room. Most people seem to shy away from the idea though. And once more, I don't see how anyone can keep up with 100+ sites.

Maybe it would be easier, and far less overwhelming to maybe start with 10. Of course, my biggest worry is creating non-performers.

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steitieh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

lol No offese, but I wouldn't still be hanging around here if I hadn't learned something from this forum that has made me money online.

I'm not an internet marketing failure . . . but I don't have some huge success story to share either. I'm just looking for a way to modify my business plan into something I actually enjoy doing.

To everyone else, thanks for all of your input. It's greatly appreciated.

I was wondering, myself, how I would be able to manage so many blogs. I own a few blogs that aren't bringing in much, but that's mainly due to inexperience (bad keyword research) I used when I created them, and general lack of maintenance.

I've been slowly getting sucked into the idea of autoblogging . . . and have used some of the tactics in the past, which surprisingly proved to be profitable Adsense wise. So, I started reading up on it in the War Room. Most people seem to shy away from the idea though. And once more, I don't see how anyone can keep up with 100+ sites.

Maybe it would be easier, and far less overwhelming to maybe start with 10. Of course, my biggest worry is creating non-performers.

If you decided to go with the 100+ it isnt as hard as you think to manage, I would say its even easier since autoblogs are usually auto created in bulk and you'll never have to think about adding more content to them, just build backlinks is all it takes.

Let me share with you what I've personally tested: First of all, the old days 2004 - 2006 of creating sites / blogs and throwing them out while watching them grow and build up your adsense revenue are gone! I made good money those days, but ended up with a tragedy, and lost many of my valuable online assets. (Maybe I was Aggressive about it, since I didnt own 100+ blogs, I had 10,000+ sites and was hitting the $5K+ a day from Adsense)

what I tried recently (8 months ago) and did "NOT" work was this: I had about 80 sites, 40 were fully automated blogs and the other 40 were simple blogs with like 5 to 7 (re-written articles) I made some money out of them but not even close to $1 per site per day (on average), the result: it took them about 6 weeks to show some good natural traffic, lived up for 2 weeks, made about $50 a day (combines) for about 2 weeks, then boom! all of a sudden income dropped from the $50s range to the $3 to $4 range (of all sites/blogs combined) after that I had to consider them as some virtual waste on my servers, I had to delete them all. (But Parked their domains and made some more money )

At the end of the day, if you don't worry about the consequences, if you're determined to try, then do it. you might have an exceptional case - nobody knows!

But believe: me managing 1 blog is always better!

#E. Brian Rose Taking Advice from forums = Fail ?

Big No! every big name you've heard about started from this forum (Most of them, and if not using their real names, they managed to be camouflaged

)... Plus, forums give you the opinions of others (very valuable in market analysis and know what people really need), not necessarily the ultimate life changing advice, and finally if you noticed or read something that really seemed to be too good to be true then it is, just avoid it

@ed2010 Forums are NOT easy to build up at all, but having one is a great asset to add to your portfolio. Get inspired by the story of this very forum (WarriorForum) how it began and how it got to this point today

it was all about HOSTING!

@bgmacaw Plate spinning haha

you cannot imagine how many times I tried that. You know, when you think about it, the easier path is to have like 1000 Blogs, sites or what ever and keep them running automatically even if you have to centralize their management and look at them once a month, it would still be the easiest path only if it actually works like you want it to..

@jjpmarketing , well said... your last sentence is summing internet marketing in 1 line, unfortunate, but true!.

@greff when people build up this quantity of sites, all they do is generate backlinks to the sites and also try to automate that as well. it's sorta gambling. They score >>> they get traffic , they dont >>> they dont

@jjpmarketing #post21 , 1 or 10 we're still judging on the number! If we take the full white hat path, willing to maintain the blog with all it takes (Articles, List building, creating a product for the niche, Maintaining your social fans, comment sharing etc. ) then its all about how many you can handle

"the more the merrier".

Just my opinion

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E. Brian Rose

15 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

You are getting too much information from people that are pretending to be successful, rather than getting the right information from people that are successful.

Read the article "Beware of Internet Marketing Forums that Can Make You Stupid". It's on the Internet Marketing Strategies link in my sig.

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

lol No offese, but I wouldn't still be hanging around here if I hadn't learned something from this forum that has made me money online.

My article mentions a few forums that will make you dumber than you already are, but I do not mention this one as such. In fact, I recommend this forum in the article. Were you the kid in English class that wrote your book report after reading the back cover too?

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Originally Posted by E. Brian Rose

My article mentions a few forums that will make you dumber than you already are, but I do not mention this one as such. In fact, I recommend this forum in the article. Were you the kid in English class that wrote your book report after reading the back cover too?

Nah. I was the kid that walked away from obvious shameless self promotion.

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E. Brian Rose 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

Nah. I was the kid that walked away from obvious shameless self promotion.

I'm having a hard time understanding why sharing an on topic article would be shameful. Oh well, too many good folks here to dwell on the bitter ones with no sense of humor. Best of luck with your search. I hope you find the magic dust that makes you an instant Internet mogul.
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Domainoutlaw

15 years ago

Dont autoblog it never ends well... That being said I would stick with one blog about a topic you really enjoy and go from there.

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cashcow

15 years ago

I think it comes down to the number of pages, more than the number of blogs provided that each page = a money making opportunity. The pages could be on the same blog or on different blogs.

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duia

15 years ago

Don't try auto blog and concentrate on one blog or several blogs. At the beginning of your blogging, don't pay attention to making money by blogging and try your best to create high-quality content firstly. Once you have gained big traffic from search engines and then, you can gain big fortunes from your blog (blogs).

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Thanks guys. I've been reading up a bit on blogging and auto blogging. Trying to figure out which road I should go down. Sounds like the majority rules, at least in the thread, that less means more.

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bellabee

15 years ago

I make over 1k per month "blogging" (primarily from Adsense but also affiliate products). That 1k per month is stretched over 11 sites.

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kchui1028

15 years ago

my tv site has a blog just for keyword marketing
i make close to 20k a month from two affiliates programs. The more unique traffic i get, the more i convert, the more i earn a month. It really ain't rocket science.

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jjpmarketing 15 years ago

One blog is too few. 100 blogs is too many. Pick 10 or so niches that you are passionate about and focus on those. You can always hire writers to generate the content. With only around 10 blogs or so. That is maybe an hour or two of work per day to post the content.

Maybe another hour or two hiring out and approving the content. This way your eggs are not all in one basket. Adsense is not a good way to monetize since Google has the power to revoke your account.

And that time expenditure is only if you want to generate daily content. Scale it down to twice per week and it will take even less time. You could even go so far as to invest 10 posts per blog per month. Not a major time investment.

Creating your own products is your best option for revenue.

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bgmacaw

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

I'm just curious, one way or another, how many blogs you've built to obtain your (what I would consider) financial success?

I guess it depends on what you call a 'blog'.

I have somewhere around 250 active monitized sites. Most of them are either static informational sites, product sales pages and such. Some run on WordPress (and previously some on Blogger) but are not particularly interactive nor updated with new content regularly. I do have a few auto-blog sites but I haven't had as much luck with them, at least not recently.

About 6 to 8 of my WordPress sites, including two in my sig, are more ongoing actual blogging sites that will get new content every so often. They're on topics I like to write about and are separated by topic. I found that I didn't like having everything mixed into a single blog. These sites account for about 1/4 to 1/3 of my online income. I started out building niche info and niche product sales sites when my income from blog sites alone became stagnant and declining slightly.

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greff

15 years ago

The big question is how do you get your visitors to 100 blogs?

If you can get a lot of visitors you will make good money with one blog or one website.

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jjpmarketing

15 years ago

The problem with one site is it can lose focus and try to serve everyone instead of a particular niche. By spreading content over 10 or so sites, you can pull in more targeted traffic.

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Ernie Lo

15 years ago

Nope. Forums are extremely hard to get going and are harder to monetize. Sure forums like this can make the owner a mint, but these are few and far between. There are more blogs making money then they're forums making money.

You're definitely better off making a niche blog especially if you are stil trying to make consistent money online.

Originally Posted by ed2010

Hi everybody, what about building your own forum? Would that be better than building your own blog?

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ernie Lonardo

Nope. Forums are extremely hard to get going and are harder to monetize. Sure forums like this can make the owner a mint, but these are few and far between. There are more blogs making money then they're forums making money.

You're definitely better off making a niche blog especially if you are stil trying to make consistent money online.

I agree. I own a forum with close to 500 members, on the first page of google for a rather high competition keyword. It doesn't convert monetization wise worth a crap. Plus, despite the number of members, very few are active. The site gets a decent amount of traffic too. IMO, from a montetization stand point, it's not worth the time.

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hawaiidave

15 years ago

I am someone who had 100+ blogs - don't do it. I have shed most of them because it is just too much work. Autoblogs are not the pancea that they are made out to be for most of us. Concentrating on one solid blog at a time will bring you better results. Some of the members here will focus on only one and others like myself have several niche blogs...but they are ones that get unique content and constant attention.

However, if you are dead-set on numerous low-paying blogs, you can easily answer your own question. Start with one and if you can make money with it, figure out what you need in order to "make a living" and divide that by the net income from the single blog - that'll give you a rough idea of how many blogs you'd have to have.

Of course, if you can't make anything off of one blog, you aren't going to make anything off of 1000 blogs.

BTW, what steitieh said, #4 & #5 - that is where the real money is.

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txkhomes

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

I know how the saying goes, "different strokes for different folks". Obviously, someone who focuses on Adsense sites will have to build a lot more to make the same amount of money as someone focusing their sites on a profitable/convertable affiliate product. I know the answers will differ based on the marketing plan. I'm just curious, one way or another, how many blogs you've built to obtain your (what I would consider) financial success?

Have a system in place to test your marketing, run a few test cases and full tracking on income sources, run it for 90 days in various keywording
if you case study works just repeat if not change stuff around and re test for another 30 days ....

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jasejames

Only a few people have achieved such a feat. Because they are dedicated for what they are doing for a long period of time. If you like to pay the price it is simple to achieve.

lol I think the tasks themselves are simple. I don't have a problem with the majority of them. It's just the waiting to see results part.

I think it should be a good rule of thumb for most people starting sites to not even bother checking their Google Adsense/ClickBank/other affiliate accounts until they've had their site/been working on it for at least a month. It's hard to do that though.

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cashcow

15 years ago

I think it should be a good rule of thumb for most people starting sites to not even bother checking their Google Adsense/ClickBank/other affiliate accounts until they've had their site/been working on it for at least a month. It's hard to do that though.

I agree! It's like watching grass grow sometimes! No wonder people jump from one thing to another without seeing things through.

I think the problem with focusing on 1 blog is that you have to do a lot of work very very little results up front, but then all that work pays off in the end.

The appeal of many smaller blogs is that you can see results faster, but the earnings are usually limited for each site. And, of course, you eventually get to a point where you can't manage all of them anymore.

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I think that sums up the $1000+ a month bloggers without even having to visit the website.

However I do know people that use loads of those plugins, Reviewzaon, Amaniche, WP Robot and they're making over 1k per month but their business is always at risk where an authority site hasn't got much to worry about apart from the fluctuations in rankings that everyone gets every now and then.
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- rvrabel2002 15 years ago
  
  A good strategy I have been following is to create about 5 niche sites per month, and I'm slowly working on 1 authority site. The idea is, get some fast cash from the micro sites, and over time, make the authority site earn alot more.
  
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Andrew Endres

15 years ago

Many people believe that you have to build dozens and dozens of blogs, mini-sites or niche sites to get rich and I think that has to do with the education they are getting from the "gurus".

It's tough to write good high-quality content for multiple blogs, let alone one. It's even harder if your are trying to write posts and articles for something you couldn't care less about.

I absolutely agree with Rami. Stick with one blog and one topic that you are absolutely passionate about and make it an authority site. Once you've proven yourself to be an expert in your field then you can start monetizing your blog any number of ways including selling your own products. (Exactly what the experts do.)

The problem with having lots of blogs, is that it becomes very difficult to prove yourself to your target audience. If you can't prove to them these 3 things, you won't have their trust and you won't get the sale.

1. Establish yourself as an expert.
2. Prove that you understand their problem/needs.
3. Prove that you have the solution and can deliver it well.

You don't need multiple blogs, just lots and lots of loyal readers that you can convert into subscribers/customers. Blog about 1 thing that you love and you'll be happier and so will your readers.

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Istvan Horvath

15 years ago

Many years ago (well, "many" is relative... think in internet/blogging related terms), anyway, a while ago I used to have a hobby blog.

Various topics, rants, photos etc. From time to time some useful posts about the blogging software itself.

No selling. No affiliate products, no my own... nothing.

Then I started to sell ad space. To be precise: a company sold the ad space, kept 50% of the income and gave the other 50% to me.
Just from that the income went up to $400-500/mo.

(the blog is dead now - I posted this to give you an another example of one single blog making money)

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15 years ago

At the end of the day, it's all about giving the audience in your niche massive value. And yes, original, solid content works best!

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robvegas626

15 years ago

Why are so many people advising to stay away from autoblogging? It seems to work well for me...I'm getting a steadily increasing amount of traffic to my autoblogs. I'm curious to know if there's some potential hidden problem I'm not aware of.

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steitieh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by robvegas626

Why are so many people advising to stay away from autoblogging? It seems to work well for me...I'm getting a steadily increasing amount of traffic to my autoblogs. I'm curious to know if there's some potential hidden problem I'm not aware of.

Alright, I'll tell you something, Google is changing rapidly... We all agree that the most targeted traffic a marketer can get is the organic traffic from Google!

Many "GURUs" out there are saying: Hey, lets go to facebook, lets go there and lets go here etc.

well, I am not saying that what they say wont work, but I can assure you that it wont work as good as the traffic that Google Gives you for free. By saying that, I hopefully sent the message that we should cherish and take a good care of that source of traffic "Google's Organic Traffic".

Now, when you Autoblog Google knows you're autoblogging (Assuming here that you Autoblog Auto generated content as well) and they dont really like stuffing their pages with useless repeated and scraped information all over again. You're not adding value to the reader nor Google. One day and out of the blues you'll be all gone and everything you've worked on will totally evaporate.

Let me mention 1 more point: The time you spend in building 200 AutoBlogs (lets assume some good automatic ones) is the same time if NOT more than the time needed to focus on 1 or 2 super original blogs or sites.

You have 2 options: keep going with the autoblogs, enjoy the income until you get noticed then that will be it! or take the right path, build authorities, maintain them, build your brand, build your back links (also the right way, not the spammy way), and add valuable original content bi-weekly (not much of work) and enjoy the slowly compounding traffic and income that will LAST!

Again, what I am trying to say is: having autoblogging working with you doesnt mean that its the right thing to do, actually if you put all your effort and eggs into autoblogging, i'll be warning you about a shock soon! Diversify, is my advice.

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bgmacaw

15 years ago

Originally Posted by steitieh

Now, when you Autoblog Google knows you're autoblogging (Assuming here that you Autoblog Auto generated content as well) and they dont really like stuffing their pages with useless repeated and scraped information all over again.

That is unless you have millions in Silicon Valley venture capital money backing your scrapping efforts like thefind.com and nextag.com do.

Basically an out-and-out autoblog probably won't do well although there are exceptions. If you put some sort of unique spin on the technique, you stand a better chance of surviving. The problem is that putting this spin on it is either time consuming (if you're a web developer like me) or costly (if you aren't a web developer)

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steitieh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by bgmacaw

That is unless you have millions in Silicon Valley venture capital money backing your scrapping efforts like thefind.com and nextag.com do.

Basically an out-and-out autoblog probably won't do well although there are exceptions. If you put some sort of unique spin on the technique, you stand a better chance of surviving. The problem is that putting this spin on it is either time consuming (if you're a web developer like me) or costly (if you aren't a web developer)

well, even then, you will end up with 1 Authority

Back to square 1

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pbay

15 years ago

Thanks for this Rami! I'm totally new to this but I'm going exactly down the path you've mapped out - 1 blog, good content I'm passionate about, intention to sell products.

The one thing I'm struggling with right now is SEO. I've gotten some following from creating a FB fan page, but since my blog is in the weight loss niche I'm thinking SEO would be really hard.

What do you think is the best way for me to get followers? Should I hire someone for SEO? Or stick to FB (especially since my target market hangs out there all day)?

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steitieh

15 years ago

Originally Posted by pbay

Thanks for this Rami! I'm totally new to this but I'm going exactly down the path you've mapped out - 1 blog, good content I'm passionate about, intention to sell products.

The one thing I'm struggling with right now is SEO. I've gotten some following from creating a FB fan page, but since my blog is in the weight loss niche I'm thinking SEO would be really hard.

What do you think is the best way for me to get followers? Should I hire someone for SEO? Or stick to FB (especially since my target market hangs out there all day)?

If your blog or site is still new I would advice you not to worry about SEO "externally" for now. Just make sure that your blog is well done and SEO friendly internally (On Site) only.

Give it time.

With time, you'll gain more exposure by the search engines (which is the natural way for all sites to get indexed and ranked) then and only then, you should start worrying about off page or off site SEO.

Believe me, if you give it the best you can, you'll be where you want to be for sure.

Good luck

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LilBlackDress

15 years ago

Originally Posted by pbay

Thanks for this Rami! I'm totally new to this but I'm going exactly down the path you've mapped out - 1 blog, good content I'm passionate about, intention to sell products.

The one thing I'm struggling with right now is SEO. I've gotten some following from creating a FB fan page, but since my blog is in the weight loss niche I'm thinking SEO would be really hard.

What do you think is the best way for me to get followers? Should I hire someone for SEO? Or stick to FB (especially since my target market hangs out there all day)?

Is your target market on FB buying? That should answer your question.

I tend to think that sites like FB are more social and not buying. I mean you can send tons of traffic from SU to a site and get 0 buyers.

I find the buyers tend to be surfing the net looking for that product and you need to have material to make them snap OR you should build a list and do it that way.

Since selling weight loss is a lot about building trust a list goes a long way there.

As far as traffic pick a couple keywords you can get compete for and start getting some links.

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jbsmith 15 years ago

I started with one blog that took a $1K/month infoproduct I had developed and doubled the income, then I created more products and so on...you get the idea.

Then, I started a second blog around an infoproduct in a completely different niche, followed the same path with the same results.

Now I have 4 - don't use autoblogging, though I would be open to trying it out in combination with some original 'real' content, but so far haven't needed to.

At this point all content is developed by me, it takes me 30-60 minutes each day to keep the blogs fresh, in addition to doing some legwork to grow backlinks (nothing automated, just legit backlinks from social networking sites, other authority blogs, articles I've written, etc...)

Though I have used Adsense, hosting paid ads and affiliate products, my own products make me more than 60% of my profit, a large portion of the rest is affiliate products...some are reviews, other just mentions, still other are ads run for the affiliate product.

The real way to benefit blogging is to first find a market, uncover a desire for information and interaction, locate products or services that fill those desires and needs (ideally creating your own) and then building a blogging platform around it.

Others I know that make well over $1K/month with their blogs started with the platform, took a year or two to build it and then created their own products and immediately doubled or tripled their profits.

Hope this helps,

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15 years ago

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LilBlackDress

15 years ago

Great posts Rami,

I am curious why do you like Chitika over Adsense? And do you combine methods on your sites ie Adsense and Affiliate Marketing?

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steitieh 15 years ago

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

Great posts Rami,

I am curious why do you like Chitika over Adsense? And do you combine methods on your sites ie Adsense and Affiliate Marketing?

Ad Blindness! I do believe to a certain level that people "cant" see banners anymore... soon, they wont be able to see Adsense ads.. Chitika's ads are kinda weird and most importantly will look new to your audience.

Adsense saturated the market, it certainly has a super great potential up till this day, but many possible clicks are being lost because of Adsense Blindness in my opinion. people got used to it.

my 2c

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Dayne Dylan

Banned 15 years ago

Honestly, don't even blog.

Create your own niche info product instead and sell it. It will be much easier to hit $1k a month this way than doing blogging. At least that is what I think and have experienced after doing both avenues.

For example, create a $37 ebook. Sell ONE a day. Bingo, you will make around $1k a month. Sure beats shelling out content after content. Why not focus on really great content for an ebook and THEN focus on PROMOTING that ebook with good content (like articles, posting links, etc.)

Just my two cents...

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Hi Dayne, Can you please PM me your email? I have questions for you on selling ebooks on Clickbank and other places. Thanks!
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petelta

15 years ago

I have 12 blogs/websites as of now that are making me money. The lowest makes right under $500/month while the best pulls in $2500/month.

I of course started with 1 like many have suggested. I loved to contribute to it and I still do. I created a system though and I outsource all the duties to maintain most of the other blogs. I am only personally active in about 3 of them. Those subjects are things I'm interested in. The other blogs are just hungry markets I've found.

I plan to keep pushing my system for many more markets I find.

Like mentioned above as well, you have to give each blog/site time to get traffic. You can get great results in only a couple months if you work on it every day.

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Thanks for the tips and inspirational stories guys. I bought 10 new domain names and am going to build them up one at a time. We'll see what sticks.

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15 years ago

Build a useful content site and aim for 100+ pages (or posts, I should say). Eventually you will look like a legitimate site and not a spammy review page and you can rank individual posts.

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15 years ago

i think you should try all options and then choose what works the best for you. for example i wasted my time on clickbank products just to find put that it`s not right for me, so i moved to other things such as ads and cpa on my sites and blogs.

from my expirence some site will make you alot of money and other wont. it is really hard to guess how much you will make frpm each other. i have over 25 sites and i can advice you to try alot of different things and then focus on what is more profitable.

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GowebMkt 15 years ago

What Ive read is this:

- Research keywords of products that ppl are buying
- Get a domain name based on those keywords
- Monetize the blog on this domain
- Get relevant, quality links to the blog (social sites, articles, etc)

Rinse and repeat...make sense?
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NewbiesDiary

15 years ago

Go check out Yaro Starak at entrepreneurs-journey.com. He is an amazing person, brilliant blogger and fantastic example of exactly what can be achieved by sticking to one blog. While you're on his site check out an interview he's done with Alborz Fallah - Interview with Alborz Fallah of CarAdvice.com.au - A Million Dollar Blogger - Entrepreneurs-Journey.com by Yaro Starak . Alborz is an Aussie who runs one blog and doesn't sell a product - and he's a million dollar blogger (and all round nice guy). I'm not affiliated with them in any way - just have learned sooooo much from them.

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

It seems a lot of people make money off just one blog. I'd rather put my eggs in a few different baskets and then focus on the ones that end up hatching later on down the road though, especially since all of the domains I bought were micro-niche focused.

Blogs and Adsense seem to go profitably hand in hand. To be bluntly honest, I'm not a big fan of Clickbank. I plan to focus on Adsense and Amazon.

I guess since my other thread bombed, I'll ask on this thread. How many posts do you guys recommend? One a day? One a week? Twice a month?

Right now I'm posting one a day.

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15 years ago

I have been working on my blog now for just over a week. Not even sure I am doing it correctly. I will keep going for a month and see what happens. If all fails after a month, I will have to re-evaluate how I am doing this.
Backlinking, youtube'in, yahoo q's, trying out link juicer. Updating it almost daily with new content.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

I know how the saying goes, "different strokes for different folks". Obviously, someone who focuses on Adsense sites will have to build a lot more to make the same amount of money as someone focusing their sites on a profitable/convertable affiliate product. I know the answers will differ based on the marketing plan. I'm just curious, one way or another, how many blogs you've built to obtain your (what I would consider) financial success?

The more blogs you create the less resources you have to spend on them

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15 years ago

The only IM project I have been sucessful with is my music site/blog. That is only because I just got bored with everyother make money idea. I always end up excited and back on my own site. That might tell you something about having a genuine passion and connection with visitors.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by dndoseller

The only IM project I have been sucessful with is my music site/blog. That is only because I just got bored with everyother make money idea. I always end up excited and back on my own site. That might tell you something about having a genuine passion and connection with visitors.

It might . . . if what your passionate about is actually profitable. I have a website that I've kept for over 2 years because I love it. Even with a good amount of traffic, most of the days it earns $0.

Some people will tell you to blog about what you're passionate about, others will tell you that sometimes your passions don't make money. Either way, I think they key to success is to be patient and then to keep testing until you find something that works. I've also been told that you can make any site profitable with the right method. *shrugs* To each his/her own. I don't think there's a perfect method and formula that fits everyone . . . kind of like dieting.

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theemperor

15 years ago

Those who say adsense isn't good ... I made $200 a month at one point out of adsense on a fairly low traffic blog. I tried many relevant affiliate programmes, preselling and all that jazz and made some sales but very small. So adsense was good.

Sold my own service on that same blog which made good money but the time taken to maintain the service meant it wasn't feasable in the long run. (Read between the lines = lazyness)

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MassiveMarketer

15 years ago

Create 1 blog and work hard on that one. You could actually start with adsense but it won't be that much but it is a start. From there, you start opening for advertisements, affiliates and other spaces.

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jbento

15 years ago

It seems that there are too many different opinions, from keeping one blog to build 100's of blogs and all the between.

I say, choose a way and test it. What you must be aware is to know when it will not work. There are people working 2-3 years in a blog with no results, there are people struggling to get traffic to dozens of blogs and also without results.

So, if you go for 1 blog or several blogs, plan ahead and know your numbers. Test, test and test again and look for the numbers. Soon or later you'll find what works better for you. And then, just stick with the 20-80 rule: find which 20% of effort is giving you 80% of the results and focus on that.

My 2 cents

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15 years ago

well i had just read about auto-blog so i will going to share some of it to you..In case to rank your main blog to the first page of Googel, you need content and backlink to catch Google Spider attention. So the gain backlinks easily, some marketers might create 100 blogs that related to his main blog. These blogs are run autopilotly and the new article added will have a backlink pointing back to the main blog and thus blog will rank higher in short term. IS all depend on you either want to use these method of not because it is too risky. Google might banned the main blog one day if didnt do smartly.

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15 years ago

I have 50 blogs in different niches currently. Some are auto blogs, some manual. Some have adsense, some have different types of affiliate programs. I think the key is to mix it up.

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Sonomacats

15 years ago

I have 15 blogs.

All are in areas that are of personal interest, are tightly niched, and people spend money there.

I do a form of auto-blogging. What this means is that I get tons of article showing up at a special eMail. 98% of them are crap. But the title and occasionally some of the info is good and I use that as my inspiration to write a completely unique article. I work on one blog a day and future post until I have several weeks worth of articles in the queue. The next day I move on to the next one.

I picked up a Dummies book for each niche (plus get every magazine on those subjects) and I pick up a lot of related books at the library so that I know what I'm talking about. Because these subjects are interesting, I enjoy writing about them. Because I get back issues of the magazine, I can write articles about a topic that was written about 5 years ago. And it helps if there's good stuff in the Public Domain I can also use.

Because I like my topics, it shows and people respond well to my blogs. I monetize with eBay, Amazon, and other affiliate programs, depending on which is the best for that niche.

I tried more blogs and it didn't work for me. I tried fewer and that didn't work either because I get bored. Now I think I've finally found the right amount. And I have fun and they always stay interesting.

More importantly, there are a lot of good ideas and suggestions in this thread. My best advice is to try what appeals to you and then pick the model that works the best for you. Everyone is different.

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

I think I'm going to work on these domains for about 6 months, testing, tweaking, and what not. By that time I should know which ones are winners and which ones should be replaced. I think I'm going to post to each one once a week. We'll see how it goes.

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abuhakim

15 years ago

I'd have to agree with StateLizard. The issue is not whether to build 1 blog or 100 blogs but to create a business model that is designed to produce the kind of revenue you want to earn.

You would employ a different strategy if monetizing with AdSense than you would for CPA or CB Affiliate marketing.

Since most bloggers are not professional writers the first roadblock they face after creating and launching their blog is writing enough compelling, relevant content and posting it frequently.

Fresh content and regular posting is the key to successful blogging. These are not static sites, but allow interaction like any other Web 2 site.

But more to the point, trying to make a sustainable profit with a single blog, unless you're extremely talented, committed or both is folly; especially if you're in the information niche/market as an affiliate.

The aim is to locate, infiltrate and dominate as much online real estate as possible.

I currently have about 30 blogs, most fully automated. Its a war of attrition. I use a combination of auto-blogging and sniping. The SEO optimized auto-blogs become my CMS and the sniping creates back-links and increases my SERP.

My blogs achieve PR 2-4 in a relatively short time frame, get tons of indexed pages. I just drive traffic.

My first exposure to this method was in Rob Benwell's original Blogging To The Bank where he discussed creating multiple blogs (in fact 100's).

Even if my 30 blogs only average $5.00/day, that's 4.5K a month on auto-pilot. While the average blogger is struggling to write articles, I'm building new blogs, driving traffic and earning profits.

Automation is the key in all these processes (that is unless you love being tied to your computer?)

I suggest that the starting point is to evaluate the business plan/model including niches and monetization methods and desired income.

Final thought. If we were to use 1% as a base conversion rate and were selling an affiliate product that paid $30 in commission.

To earn $100/day you would have to make 3.3 sales/day.

In order to make the 3.3 sale, you would need to drive 330 visitors a day to the sales page, not your blog.

If you are driving traffic to your blog or landing page, depending on your CTR (Click Through Rate) you would most likely need to generate substantially more traffic.

Creating multiple blogs across many niches you diversify your blogging "portfolio" and create a recurring income stream that is much more stable from month to month.

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Originally Posted by abuhakim

I'd have to agree with StateLizard. The issue is not whether to build 1 blog or 100 blogs but to create a business model that is designed to produce the kind of revenue you want to earn.

You would employ a different strategy if monetizing with AdSense than you would for CPA or CB Affiliate marketing.

Since most bloggers are not professional writers the first roadblock they face after creating and launching their blog is writing enough compelling, relevant content and posting it frequently.

Fresh content and regular posting is the key to successful blogging. These are not static sites, but allow interaction like any other Web 2 site.

But more to the point, trying to make a sustainable profit with a single blog, unless you're extremely talented, committed or both is folly; especially if you're in the information niche/market as an affiliate.

The aim is to locate, infiltrate and dominate as much online real estate as possible.

I currently have about 30 blogs, most fully automated. Its a war of attrition. I use a combination of auto-blogging and sniping. The SEO optimized auto-blogs become my CMS and the sniping creates back-links and increases my SERP.

My blogs achieve PR 2-4 in a relatively short time frame, get tons of indexed pages. I just drive traffic.

My first exposure to this method was in Rob Benwell's original Blogging To The Bank where he discussed creating multiple blogs (in fact 100's).

Even if my 30 blogs only average $5.00/day, that's 4.5K a month on auto-pilot. While the average blogger is struggling to write articles, I'm building new blogs, driving traffic and earning profits.

Automation is the key in all these processes (that is unless you love being tied to your computer?)

I suggest that the starting point is to evaluate the business plan/model including niches and monetization methods and desired income.

Final thought. If we were to use 1% as a base conversion rate and were selling an affiliate product that paid $30 in commission.

To earn $100/day you would have to make 3.3 sales/day.

In order to make the 3.3 sale, you would need to drive 330 visitors a day to the sales page, not your blog.

If you are driving traffic to your blog or landing page, depending on your CTR (Click Through Rate) you would most likely need to generate substantially more traffic.

Creating multiple blogs across many niches you diversify your blogging "portfolio" and create a recurring income stream that is much more stable from month to month.

I agree that it would seem to be wiser to put your eggs in several different baskets. Idk about 100s though.

I keep getting mixed reviews about autoblogging. I've tried it once and it proved to be pretty profitable with one blog I used to work with. There are so many nay sayers though.

I've heard that a mix of unique content and autoblogging is a winning strategy. Google gets what they want, and your readers get constant reading material. In fact, there's a pretty good thread in the War Room on it.

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Toby.T

15 years ago

Would a blog posts with a youtube video and 150-300 words be substantial enough for daily posts?

I create the videos myself.

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GuruGazette

15 years ago

You will get mixed signals about any business model. Every one works great or doesn't work at all, depending on who you ask

I find it interesting that only a couple of people mentioned building a system and no one mentioned the importance of defining what you want from a business or blog.

Building an athority blog takes massive amounts of time, focus and commitment. The more authority you build, the more potential income you have from products, speaking engagements, etc. If you don't want to be semi-famous though, you will hate it when you hit success with this method. You may also discover that the fame and authority are a heavy ball and chain around your neck that you can't even take an extended vacation from because the blog relies too much on you.

On the flipside, auto blogs of the form that most people here refer to are little more than scraper spam that can fall apart quickly. They are a useful tool for failing fast and they give you priceless niche research data. Using that data, you can then setup an automated blogging system that has staying power, and that continues generating income even if you don't do a thing with it for months on end.

So first define what "success" looks like for you, then design your blogging business accordingly

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Ofthemix

15 years ago

Originally Posted by GuruGazette

Building an athority blog takes massive amounts of time, focus and commitment. The more authority you build, the more potential income you have from products, speaking engagements, etc. If you don't want to be semi-famous though, you will hate it when you hit success with this method. You may also discover that the fame and authority are a heavy ball and chain around your neck that you can't even take an extended vacation from because the blog relies too much on you.

On the flipside, auto blogs of the form that most people here refer to are little more than scraper spam that can fall apart quickly. They are a useful tool for failing fast and they give you priceless niche research data. Using that data, you can then setup an automated blogging system that has staying power, and that continues generating income even if you don't do a thing with it for months on end.

I always imagined authority blogs as being blogs with 100s of well ranking posts/pages. So, for instance, if you searched for a particular item or niche, there's a pretty good chance you'll land on the blog just because it's pretty much dominated the niche. Having said that, the niches I'm into are so lazer targeted (and somewhat boring), I can't imagine anyone ever holding a convention over most of them that they'd want me to speak at.

Your thoughts on autoblogging are interesting to me. I think I'm finally getting the idea that there's a right way and wrong way to do it. Of course, anything automated makes things much easier. But I still think blogs without at least some original content will fall flat on their faces.

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Guni

15 years ago

I prefer Adsense then Chitika for many reasons.

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GeorgR.

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ofthemix

I know how the saying goes, "different strokes for different folks". Obviously, someone who focuses on Adsense sites will have to build a lot more to make the same amount of money as someone focusing their sites on a profitable/convertable affiliate product. I know the answers will differ based on the marketing plan. I'm just curious, one way or another, how many blogs you've built to obtain your (what I would consider) financial success?

my "financial success" (cough) is mainly from two "micro niche blogs", the rest is article marketing and WSOs/own products.

It really depends on the niche. A micro niche with only 1000 or so searches a day CAN only yield so much... you need more blogs or review sites - as opposed to a authority site which you managed to establish in a mega niche like "weight loss" or similar.

You basically have the option(s):

a) Make many niche sites in micro niches, rank them...maintain them..SEO them. Once you have 5,6,10+ such sites you are off fine.

b) Or focus on some "big" niche and try to establish yourself in some mega market.

a == more realistic, but its tedious to have many sites, content, SEO etc..

b == might be very hard to achieve

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