Gmail banning Facebook?

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What is Google afraid of and banning them from Gmail? My writer sent me an article on this situation and when I read it I just went WHAT. G never ceases to amaze me with the things they do. Often I see no logic for it, but I know there is a reason or G wouldn't be doing it. They are real smart when it comes to the web.

I think I see their reasons for this one, but it just shows they are scared and want to use their size as a tool to compete. But what about their customers who use Gmail and want to access Facebook with it. Oh well, I guess the customers don't count.

If you want to see the story I just published, check it out here. Google Limits Facebook in Gmail World | The News Portal
#main internet marketing discussion forum #banning #facebook #gmail
  • G wants to control everything, if they can't they change the rules. Like in this case, but I don't understand why G would limit facebook though...
  • as far as me and gmail and facebook, about 5 months ago i changed my email address and removed the old one i signed up with facebook to. since then they have been telling me "facebook requires all members to have an active email address" which really pisses me off. but i still like to see what friends are doing. i just hated all the emails and now that i don't get them its very refreshing. as soon as facebook insists on my email being there, i'll be gone.
  • Hmm interesting read. Not the end of the world but there are two thoughts that come to my mind. First maybe google is finally getting ready to lauch their platform. Many do not know this but Google is going to team up with Zynga for Google Games as part of their social platform. They have over 500 million in funds invested into it already. The second thing that comes to mind is that maybe it has to do with the sensitivity of the info Facebook is allow to access. Maybe they are still selling off your data to 3rd party advertisers. You know there are 3 active lawsuits against Facebook currently for this charge. In the end who knows but I think it will be great once Google does launch all its Social network.
  • Thing is last two days my GMail Account is not working properly at all.

    John
  • I hate political BS! ugh
  • While I have Gmail accounts, I don't use them. And I have never got the hang of Facebook either. So I could really care less. But I do hate the way Google seems to be taking over the world. They are worse than the government.

    A lot of people seem interested in this as I have got more than 300 visitors to this article today. Not server crashing, but not too bad either.
  • I love google, they keep everybody in check. You know that if you slip up even once, google is gonna steal your customers. That being said i can understand why they would want to limit facebook. I mean lets be real for a second you dont see Microsoft and Macintosh holding hands and working together for a greater cause.... NO... you see smear campaigns and all that good stuff. Facebook is now a threat, and if google is indeed about to step into the realm of social networking as well then of course they are going to want to eliminate their competition.

    And google ALWAYS eliminates their competition. Dont believe me? what happened to that other search engine that people used to always use..... yahoo was it?
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  • Banned
    Very strange. Not to mention concerning. Oh well, at least there's some healthy competition for the Big G.

    Let's hope facebook doesn't retaliate. That would take this stupid insanity to a whole new level.
  • It's likely due to scam users and fake user groups being created - it is probably making gmail look bad to facebook and each new gmail user = more cost
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    • Google v. Facebook - Kill 'em Google, kill 'em.

      I love Google and hate Facebook. I'm very biased.
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  • It has nothing to do with google acting like 'big brother'. Google helped grow facebook by allowing data to be exported to facebook from gmail accounts, with user permission of course. Google recently asked facebook to provide the same type of access; allow people to export their facebook contacts to google, again, with user permission. Facebook wouldn't comply, so google cut them off until they do.

    Maybe next time you could do some research...
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    • I don't think my writer went into quite that much detail. This wasn't an investigtion piece. I am sure he could have wrote another twenty or thirty paragraphs, but we don't publish stuff that long and detailed. We leave that to people like you to do. :p
  • What exactly where they allowing gmail users to access within gmail that has to do with Facebook? Very unclear to me. I use gmail all the time and never noticed anything about accessing Facebook. Facebook sends email notifications if you have them set up in facebook to do that, but I don't see gmail limiting that as it's just email that Facebook sends you that you've given permission for them to do.

    If there's some extra functionality Gmail gave Facebook to its Gmail users, there's absolutely nothing wrong with them taking it away. Why is it somehow Gmail acting like government if they decided to control their business how the please? There's no law that says they have to give Facebook a certain access to gmail users. No reason they have to other than that they already have, but they can take it away if they wish. This is really, truly, much ado about nothing.

    And what in the world does this have to do with us making money on the internet? C'mon, people, let's focus on what this forum is really for...


    edit: I see now the functionality was in allowing Facebook to have access to Gmail users contacts list to get more users for Facebook. Facebook didn't allow the same access, so end of story. Isn't it Facebook you should really be upset with for acting like Big Brother? Thanks, Bobjutsu
  • It looks like the foundation is actually based on simple contract agreements and licenses; that is a data level. Above that, its just classic stuff but I do know that Google and Rupert Murdoch who owns Facebook are at odds. Rupert has failed in one avenue, but I would not doubt that bulldog will give up - basically there is a huge corporate war going on; among others. Google is getting more and more to be the combatant deluxe that everyone wants to take on. Just about any other power house will be butting heads with them for awhile. It is interesting that it keeps looking as if Google will be the central figure in just about every isssue of all these global internet wars, of course Apple is heading a large push for over a year now. Really I can think of any major IT industry giant and they are at battle, though silent to the general populace.

    What is funny about them trying to be silent is that they all kind of rely on each other; but they are all kind of positioning and pushing each other around in "small" ways here and there. I would suspect several stories will be popping up for a few years at least.
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    • I'm pretty sure that is the most retarded thing I've seen posted. I'll have to do some research into older post to see if I can find anything more retarded, but for the time being I'll go ahead and declare you the winner. I'll just let that paragraph speak for itself, couldn't be bothered with checking facts, could ya...

      They do make the rules about themselves. You do understand that they aren't controlling the internet, google controls google. You are basically saying "who gave google the right to decide how they run their own business".

      Get it through your head, you have no right to be on google. It is their business and you are trying to use it, so you have to use it by their rules. They are under no obligation to help you. Plus, there are plenty of ways to run a business, any kind of business without google. Google is just one of many places to find customers. Do your job, learn how to use the internet as a whole, and quit whining about your "rights" to thrive on somebody elses engine.
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    • Here's someone else who needs to do some research.

      Rupert Murdoch does NOT own Facebook. He doesn't even own MySpace.

      Newscorp, of which Murdoch is the biggest shareholder and chairman owns MySpace, but have absolutely nothing to do with Facebook.

      Sheesh.

      Although you are right in that Newscorp's (not Murdoch's) MySpace is going down the crapper financially. See my post in the OT forum for more info: http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...cceptable.html
  • The G is going for total domination. But why wouldn't they? They are always finding new markets to move into and expand and to tell the truth I really like tons of their products and services. Not that they need a plug from me, but it seems like anytime they take on something new they have a fresh approach and seriously consider offing great features that customers want.

    Sure privacy may be an issue, but that seems to be how things just are on the InterWeb. Soon I expect them to ID us by our genetic code or we'll have to do a Vulcan mind meld to long in. But it makes perfect sense for them as a business to move into social media. That's why they bought Youtube. Facebook is their number one rival in advertising dollars.

    Its just business.
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  • G (google) is a bully and facebook is someone who stands up to the bully (in terms of traffic) The bully then tries to continue to bully facebook. But at the end of the day we all know Bullies never win!

    Haha dno where that came form!
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    • Facebook is way more dangerous than Google. Don't confuse Facebooks position with that of a victim here, they are not.

      And as far as Google goes, well, for a company that gives you/us probably the single most value on the planet you folks sure do hate them. I mean really, you use their engine, you use their tools, and you buy their advertising...if you hated them that much, you are under obligation to stop using them, aren't you?

      Start competing for your traffic on Yahoo, Bing, Facebook (since you think they stand up to the bully of google), etc and no longer search, or use services from Google.
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  • Check out this article on techcrunch that explains a bit more of what's going on with this feud between Google and Facebook:

    Google To Facebook: You Can’t Import Our User Data Without Reciprocity

    - Nightowl
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    • @Bobjutsu: With all due respect, you sound like a PR shill for google. I have formed my opinion based on my own observations and I do not desist or back down from it. No, I stand by what I say. I will say it again: google is an out of control monster and is far too powerful. Facebook is no angel either but it is a great thing that there is a rival to google. Maybe they will modify and rein in their behavior. As a rule when something gets too big it gets corrupted. Would you say the same thing about the government?
      My point is that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I am sure you realise this somewhere underneath. Putting the blame on insignificant little fish like me and others who feel the same way is very dismissive and reeks of arrogance. All I ask for is some fair play and just because google is successful doesn't really give it the right to abuse that influence by poking a finger in others' eyes and disregarding them because it is the most powerful search engine. Controlling the search engines is in many ways controlling the internet although it could be different if more people realised this and chose different search engines more often. I don't want to rely on google alone and you are right about this for sure, but they control more than 80% of the traffic on search engines. So we are forced to accept them if we want to succeed in our online businesses aren't we? So it is in their interest not to unnecessarily alienate those who depend on it for no good reason. Are you saying that people who say they have had their adsense accounts disappear for no reason are all lying? Are you saying no one has any justification to have a gripe with google? I can't really believe you are.
      I definitely am all in favour of supporting other competitors to help rein them in.
  • Here's the full story, as per Wall Street Journal.

    Google Limits Facebook Access to Gmail Contacts - WSJ.com

    Seems this is a tit for tat move.
  • It seems to me that if Facebook changes over to yahoo mail and yahoo results then google is the one that will suffer. Not sure why google would set up the scenerio where Yahoo can get a boost if Facebook decides to get closer to Yahoo.

    Aaron
  • Business is business. Don't take it personal
  • yeah. this is how the business works especially since Google and Facebook are being compared lately in terms of IM effectiveness.

    but what i've been thinking about this banning is it's a result of Google coming up with Google Me. as i remember, Google Me is the direct competition of FB. since they'll have their own social page, they don't to be connected with others that we use today. just a thought
  • What is that saying about absolute powers corrupts absolutely.... I do not think anyone can ever be 100% comfortable with Google too Big an all knowing.
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  • i think there is a saying ... power corrupts ... absolute power corrupts absolutely ...

    we would all face these descisions if we had such large fiscal investments and market share ... most if not all would make descisions along these lines to preserve market share ...

    personally i dont really care what gmail and fb and whoever else does it doesnt effect my life in such a huge way - but here is an interesting read if you search the seed investors of fb and big g some interesting fact emerge ...
  • I'm not a big fan of Google but Facebook does
    behave a "little" bit like a hypocrite. They LOVE
    do get data out of other companies systems
    but don't allow anybody to scrap contact data
    from their own database.

    If I were Google I would have blocked Facebook
    from scrapping their data years ago.

    Tyrus
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    Gmail banning Facebook?

    What is Google afraid of and banning them from Gmail? My writer sent me an article on this situation and when I read it I just went WHAT. G never ceases to amaze me with the things they do. Often I see no logic for it, but I know there is a reason or G wouldn't be doing it. They are real smart when it comes to the web. I think I see their reasons for this one, but it just shows they are scared and want to use their size as a tool to compete. But what about their customers who use Gmail and want to access Facebook with it. Oh well, I guess the customers don't count.