Internet Marketing Is Very Hard. Don't Try It!!

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...Only joking

I am a newbie (a few months in IM) and although I got some great tips and advice from this forum, on the whole I have not found IM easy!

The technique I am concentrating on to generate traffic is article marketing.

Hopefully things will get easier!
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  • Well, if you stick with it, it won't get harder - that's for sure...
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    • Profile picture of the author Wealthyclark
      What exactly are you doing with your article marketing?

      I know I've done my fair share and it can be very hard when not done effectively, maybe we can share a few tips to help you increase your effects, but you must reveal your current approach so that it may be analyzed.
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  • Profile picture of the author yankforlife41
    Keep working hard, the good thing about IM is that technically you are always working once you content and website is up!
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    See your already an up and coming Internet marketer using catchy titles that scream Open Me!!!!! Lol

    It definitely gets easier as time goes on!
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
    Internet marketing is simple, but not easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author sal64
      Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

      Internet marketing is simple, but not easy.
      Internet marketing is simple... people just complicate it.
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      • Profile picture of the author smartlazy
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        Haha! You've got me on that title. Actually, it's true that Internet marketing is very hard. There's a huge learning curve in IM. If IM is easy, everybody will be millionaires overnight.

        People who say that IM is easy are usually those who have succeeded in this field. It's just like lawyers saying that writing a legal document is easy, or mechanics saying that fixing a broken car is easy. It's easy for them because they've mastered their professions/careers. Once you get over the hump and master the intricacies of IM, then this field becomes second nature to you.
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        • Profile picture of the author corsleymaxwell
          At first IM is really boring and to difficult for a person who have no background on internet marketing, but as you go a long with lot's of tutorial you will see that it's as easy as abc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jdub2104
    I think article marketing is a great way to get started online and even create a successful business out of. Just remember to always to your keyword research, write quality articles, and solve peoples problems! A eye catching title can also have a great impact on syndication and views.

    Get some traffic, see how your product is converting, do minor tests with Web site, copy, and click-throughs. One small adjustment could make a huge difference in your earnings per article.

    Keep at it!
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  • Profile picture of the author 82ana
    [cliche] Nothing in life worth having, comes easy.
    There are no free lunches [/cliche]
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

    The technique I am concentrating on to generate traffic is article marketing.
    Can your define article marketing for us?

    I'm asking since almost everyone defines it differently.

    To me article marketing equals:

    1. Posting articles on my blogs, social bookmarking them, submitting RSS feeds, and announcing them on Twitter.

    2. Posting articles on high value directories to hopefully get the articles syndicated and read on the article directories, also. Driving traffic to my blogs on #1.

    3. Posting articles on Web 2.0 sites with the aim of driving traffic towards my blogs from #1.

    4. Using my articles to create videos which are designed to drive traffic to my blogs on #1.

    The list could continue going on. The point, are you using your articles in as many forms and distribution methods as possible?

    The other critical point, before doing all of the work above, make sure you do very intensive keyword research to find phrases you can compete on, have adequate number of searches per day, and are within a market which allows you to find NUMEROUS phrases which meets those requirements.

    The important thing, you are taking action and learning. It will get easier, just keep expanding your knowledge and your internet footprint.

    Take care,

    Barry
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Can your define article marketing for us?
      Hello!

      Thanks very much for your detailed reply.

      So far I have done:

      • Keyword resarch (came up with 5 long tail keywords)
      • In the process of writing 10 articles per keywords (have written 38 so far - 19 lives)
      • Once articles have been accepted, took them to my own blog, Goarticles, Articlesbase, Articlewarehouse and sooper articles
      I am not yet familiar with Twitter, RSS feeds

      • Social bookmarking (is prosterous a good tool?)
      • Posting articles on Web 2.0 sites (dont' know what they are)
      • Using my articles to create videos (I would not know where to start + I have not exactly got a recording voice - (I sound a bit like a goat - may be this can be outsourced?)
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
        Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

        les[/LIST]I am not yet familiar with Twitter, RSS feeds

        • Social bookmarking (is prosterous a good tool?)
        • Posting articles on Web 2.0 sites (dont' know what they are)
        • Using my articles to create videos (I would not know where to start + I have not exactly got a recording voice - (I sound a bit like a goat - may be this can be outsourced?)
        Twitter is simply a micro-blogging or public texting tool. It is just one added avenue for announcing your content and creating low-value backlinks.

        RSS Feeds are newsfeeds of your blogs or content sites. By submitting them to RSS submission sites your feeds are distributed and create additional backlinks to your sites.

        Posterous is not a social bookmarking tool, but a content distribution tool. It includes a blog on their site, plus the ability to autopost to Facebook, Twitter, Blogger, Wordpress, Flickr, Picasa, Buzz, Xanga, LiveJournal, and other platforms for your content.

        For Social bookmarking there are tools like Onlywire, IMAutomator, SocialBot, and others to speed up the process. I only bookmark content on a handful of sites most commonly. It helps speed up the discovery of new content and leaves more trails towards your content funnel.

        Web 2.0 sites would include Squidoo, Weebly, Tumblr, and a wide range of other sites. In the most part they are "free" locations to put content and point links towards your money pages.

        Creating videos does not always require your voice. You can use creative commons music or sound effects for the audio and tell your story using a powerpoint slideshow you record using a program like Camtasia or Camstudio. You can even create decent videos using Microsoft's Live Movie Maker.

        As Caliban told you, the most important component of any of this is to observe where your traffic comes from, do more of it, and less of what does not work.

        I have niches where a majority of my traffic comes from YouTube videos even though I think they are tacky. Other niches have almost no traffic from YouTube, but get traffic from phrases I targeted and am now ranked on Google. Another site gets almost every bit of traffic from articles at this point.

        I watch my Google Analytics very carefully to see where traffic is coming from and then try to analyze why. Google Analytics will help you track down when your content gets syndicated and where the traffic is coming from. (Good time to send a thank you note to the blogger who is using your content. You may be able to do a guest post for them and increase your exposure.)
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

    The technique I am concentrating on to generate traffic is article marketing.
    Article marketing is a slow-build technique. There are three things that make it work.

    1. You have to write a lot of articles. As in hundreds. Preferably a thousand or more. So expect to spend three to six months writing articles.

    2. You have to pay attention to how your articles perform. Every week or two, go look at your stats and see what people read. What people click. What people syndicate to their own sites.

    3. You have to do more of what works and less of what doesn't. Try to understand why people read, click, and syndicate things you've written, and also why they don't read, click, and syndicate other things.

    Notice that there is nothing here about keyword research or competition analysis. Most people waste far too much time on these things. The only thing outside of writing articles that should occupy much of your time is product selection.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

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      2. You have to pay attention to how your articles perform. Every week or two, go look at your stats and see what people read. What people click. What people syndicate to their own sites.
      Highlight this advice. Save yourself plenty of time and energy spinning your wheels.

      See what works, what doesn't Continually tweak your articles. Experiment with titles, writing styles, impact words.

      Persist, persist, persist.

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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Every week or two, go look at your stats and see what people read. What people click. What people syndicate to their own sites.
      Notice that there is nothing here about keyword research or competition analysis.
      Thanks for the great advice. I am thinking of re-writing the title of articles that do not perform well (even though the keyphrase might no longer be included in them)!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    You're right Beatrice - it is hard.

    You'll see a lot of sales pages telling you a newbie can be rich within a month but it's nothing like the reality of the situation and most people vastly underestimate what is required to be successful.

    Like Caliban says - even if you just focus on article marketing, for most people they'll need hundreds or thousands of GOOD articles (not cheap re-written plr) in order to make any decent money.

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  • Profile picture of the author ktmakwana
    Hi there...

    As you are getting involed with article marketing.

    Please check out the post title "Ezine Article Sniper" from Dave Lovelace in this forum.

    It will provide you with useful and excellent information.

    Good luck with article marketing because it definitely works as long as you are consistent with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Originally Posted by ktmakwana View Post

      Please check out the post title "Ezine Article Sniper" from Dave Lovelace in this forum.
      It will provide you with useful and excellent information.
      Have you personally tried it? I am unsure it is going to work if the website is already set up?
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  • Profile picture of the author DominiquePrentiss
    No, I wouldn't say it is exaclty easy, but
    it's not as hard as it is working in a factory
    or farming (yep I've done both).

    I prefer my job as an Internet Marketer to
    all the other things I've done that's for sure.

    Don't get discouraged - because beleive it
    or not the money will follow with consistency.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

      ...The technique I am concentrating on to generate traffic is article marketing. ...
      In my early days, I found it extremely helpful also to visit some of the large article directories and actually read some of the articles in my niches and learn the structure and technique of writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author kez1000
    as an internet marketer i have found out that most people do not start to make mony untill the second or third year
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Rodman
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    Making significant money is hard. But IM is the easiest way that I know how to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clubland
    I understand totally how you feel.

    Yeah, i have good offline businesses. And only for the past 3 years have i tried the IM thing. I started with the article marketing thing. After a month i gave up. So what did i do? I made my own product. Charged only $3 for it. And built my list by offering myself as a contributor on give away sites. Yeah, they charged for me to just put my offer on, but, it was a lot easier than writing those horrible articles.

    Now, because of my product creation, i now pay someone to write for me.

    Not everyone can afford the giveaways. But, it is well worth it in the long run.

    I am an under the radar marketer at the moment. But, i am thinking of coming out and showing people how i really do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
      Originally Posted by Clubland View Post

      I understand totally how you feel.

      Yeah, i have good offline businesses. And only for the past 3 years have i tried the IM thing. I started with the article marketing thing. After a month i gave up. So what did i do? I made my own product. Charged only $3 for it. And built my list by offering myself as a contributor on give away sites. Yeah, they charged for me to just put my offer on, but, it was a lot easier than writing those horrible articles.

      Now, because of my product creation, i now pay someone to write for me.

      Not everyone can afford the giveaways. But, it is well worth it in the long run.

      I am an under the radar marketer at the moment. But, i am thinking of coming out and showing people how i really do it.
      I hope your giveaways have affiliate or up sell links in them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Az Ozegbe
    Article marketing will always work for you as long as you do it well.Do it right
    and you will get the right kind of results
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinTorrence
    I think it's a lot like anything new you try that you're unfamiliar with.

    You gotta figure out the basics, what you can keep up with, & what drives people to take an offer (& how to effectively get in front of them).

    There's a "feel" to it that you pick up over time.

    I'll say that sure, it's not dead simple ... but it's a whole lot easier & more enjoyable than shoveling heavy lead sinter slop back onto conveyor belts in the deep, dark pits of a 130*F lead smelting plant.

    Been there, done that. I prefer IM. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    Working at Burger King for $8 an hour is probably tough too. But take your pick.
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    • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
      Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

      Working at Burger King for $8 an hour is probably tough too. But take your pick.
      I get your point, but you don't need to wait 6 months to get paid!
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      • Profile picture of the author Griffon
        Hi Beatrice,

        Keep in mind this is a startup business you are attempting. In the offline world, most Venture Capital firms wouldn't expect a startup to make money for several years in a typical scenario, and IM beats that if you work at it consistently.(most people don't)

        Remember, the learning curve is very steep, but if you make the climb, you'll never have to do it again. Starting your own business is always extremely tough, but the internet allows you to do it with less money and experience than ever before.

        Hang in there, keep digging, and the gold will come!

        As for the fake come-on's and "instant profit gushing overnight riches"...ignore them for what they are...nonsense!

        Neal
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      • Profile picture of the author paulie888
        Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

        I get your point, but you don't need to wait 6 months to get paid!
        This is true, and this is why you should never quit your regular job to do IM full-time unless you are making more than your salary consistently (for at least 6-12 months!) Quitting any earlier could cause you to seriously regret your decision later on.
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        • It is not a joke. IM is indeed hard and difficult at the beginning but once you prepared, set up and accomplished all that you need, then it will run on auto-pilot. But you still have to continue develop, update and upgrade your IM business.
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          • Profile picture of the author sal64
            Originally Posted by internetsecretbook View Post

            It is not a joke. IM is indeed hard and difficult at the beginning but once you prepared, set up and accomplished all that you need, then it will run on auto-pilot. But you still have to continue develop, update and upgrade your IM business.
            I'm not laughing
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  • Profile picture of the author tandren544
    Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

    ...Only joking

    I am a newbie (a few months in IM) and although I got some great tips and advice from this forum, on the whole I have not found IM easy!

    The technique I am concentrating on to generate traffic is article marketing.

    Hopefully things will get easier!
    The hardest part is finding something and sticking to it... good for you!

    The little things will keep getting easier, but everything gets bigger and bigger in scale the longer you stick with it!

    After all, everyone would rather catch one big fish than 100 little fish!
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    • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
      I found it quite hard when I was starting out because of my complete lack of technical knowledge. SEO, HTML, FTP - it all seemed like a foreign language to me. It probably took me about a year to get my first site up and running.

      I enjoy learning new things though, and I didn't really mind spending a few hours a day on it (I had a day job which took care of the money side of things).

      It's very rewarding when things start coming together so stick with it. Personally I've found article marketing to be a great way to get traffic to my sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Rodney
    I recommend you find one traffic building strategy and stick with it till you master it. Article marketing is a good choice but it will take some time and patience to see some results.
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  • Profile picture of the author webapex
    "Internet Marketing Is Very Hard. Don’t Try It!!"

    That should be the title of a training course to balance out all those overoptimistic titles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Beatrice you're right - it isn't easy, and the fact that you realize that puts you at an advantage from many people out there.

    So many people think it's easy and just keep looking for the 'easy money'. When you realize that you need to work at your online business that's when you can start to be successful.

    Keep at it - I wish you lots of success!
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  • Profile picture of the author jjoshua
    Internet marketing has a steep learning curve. And there's no fixed program or curriculum to learn from. The only way to know if you've mastered it is to actually act on the advice and teaching, and start making money.

    I believe that the moment you recieved your first dollar, it will just be the tip of the iceberg!
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    Stay with it. The hard work and long hours are certainly worth the effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author dake
    Hi,

    There is no easy way out and in the end it is the hard work you put that gives a return, you just need to be consistent. Try spinning your articles to make 10 to 20 versions of a single one and then submitting them to revenue sharing article directories. If you want, you can hire someone to manually spin your articles. Try social bookmarking sites, like digg, xomba, stumbleupon, etc sign up to all of them (get the list from google) and then use automatic ping tool (google it) that automatically submits your content to all the social bookmarking sites.

    See you around with more updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author nelaffiliate
    Wishing you well and great success.
    Article marketing is great.
    Remember to backlink your articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author mleopold
    I am some what new to IM myself. There are days when I sit down to go to work on my business and it seems as though I am lost. One thing that motivates me each time though, is knowing that if I work/learn for 3 or 4 hours each day, I will ALWAYS make progress towards my goal by the end of the day. I have never went 'backwards' by putting in the time to pursue my goals. Just chip away each day and success will come.

    If you want to drive from California to New York, you won't get there in one day. However, if you have a road map and continue to get up and drive a little each day, you will eventually get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
    Hello!

    Thank you very much for all the great advice received. Today I had a look at my stats in various directories and this was quite an "eye opener". :rolleyes:

    Ezine has not really taken off yet, but I was surprised to see that one single article in Buzzle.com received nearly 200 visits in less than 1 month. At this stage I am unsure if "lots of reads" will translate in "lots of clickthrough" to my site, but this can't be a bad thing!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sandor Verebi
      Hi Beatrice,

      To the OP: if it would be easy, then everybody from the globe and his/her dog would do it. Why don't they do it since the opportunity exists? Because it needs work! They have 'the glass is half empty' mindset. With that approach success isn't accessible, as I can see.

      Right mindset, correct plan, consistent work and persitence are those what leads you to succed. See this as 'the glass is half full'. If you do it, sooner or later your glass will be filled in. And as you move forward, you will be more experienced and things will become more easier.

      Originally Posted by Beatrice View Post

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      Ezine has not really taken off yet, but I was surprised to see that one single article in Buzzle.com received nearly 200 visits in less than 1 month. At this stage I am unsure if "lots of reads" will translate in "lots of clickthrough" to my site, but this can't be a bad thing!
      It's a great start. Congrats! Now you can realize that correct direction and persistent work brings result. This is one of the things that can motivate you. Keep it up.

      Wishing you much successes and a Merry Christmas!

      Sandor
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      • Profile picture of the author Radcliff
        Find new ways to go in your path.If you feel the road is not good,change it and think of something better.

        I'm not saying here to feel down after you get wrong and let down your work.What i'm saying is updating is important.Good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author Beatrice
        Wishing you much successes and a Merry Christmas!
        Thanks for your kind words. Merry Christmas to you too!
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  • Article marketing is a great tool, but just make sure you only post to the big boys. It's too much work, and not worth spinning articles and submitting to a ton of directories. Try tying your article up with you tube videos (linking them). Play around on Twitter and Face Book too.
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    Internet marketing can be overwhelming. There are alot of ways to make money online, the key is to pick one and stick with it otherwise your gonna have information overload.
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