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14 years ago

Those are some very clear and easy to follow step. Thanks for posting it.

For those of us that are interested in trying something like this, what ways to use use to drive traffic. Do you just get the on page SEO correct and then rely on search engines? Or so you do more?

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jbpatlanta

Those are some very clear and easy to follow step. Thanks for posting it.

For those of us that are interested in trying something like this, what ways to use use to drive traffic. Do you just get the on page SEO correct and then rely on search engines? Or so you do more?

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Jon

Hi Jon, the answer to your answer is it depends. If its a free blog I usually only post articles with SEO in the title as well as throughout in a format so I can usually submit to ezinearticles and other article directories without changing a word of it to build backlinks. Other than that I would use Fiverr in a few occasions as well as Twitter to spread the word of my site. I usually don't put too much effort into a free site as im aware it could be deleted at any moment if Google drops the hammer.

As for Hosted Domains I own, I usually do the same as above using wordpress, but take backlink building a bit more seriously as well as possibly creating a facebook group and twitter account. I also create Squidoo lenses, Hubpages, and youtube videos to help drive traffic. These methods alone helps me bring in around 500 visitors on average per day for newer sites ranging from the first few days to two weeks for most of my sites, and is pretty easy to do and completely free besides the domain price and hosting.

Ive heard some sites take up to two months though for decent traffic, but I havent ran into that problem yet and hope I never do

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Yudhistira Mauris

14 years ago

My BIG problem is driving traffic. I have learning internet marketing almost 1 year. But I didn't find clear technique to reveal it...

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paulie888 14 years ago

Originally Posted by maurisrx

My BIG problem is driving traffic. I have learning internet marketing almost 1 year. But I didn't find clear technique to reveal it...

Traffic is not hard to get, BUT you will have to work for it, especially if you're planning on attracting free (organic traffic). It all starts with keyword research, and you'll have to write articles, create videos and other forms of keyword-optimized content that link back to your blog (in this method that the OP describes). Backlinking in forums, blogs and .edu/.org sites will also help.

It's all about volume when you're dealing with free traffic. Do not think that creating one video and writing one article is suddenly going to drive tons of traffic to your site - you have to create dozens of these before you really start seeing any tangible results.
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John Banks 14 years ago

maurisrx check out my reply above to help out with traffic a bit. Also try creating a facebook fan page and providing useful and entertaining content. If your readers like it, they may tell a friend about it, and so on, and soon enough traffic problems will be a think of the past.

Also Try dipping into Keyword Research and SEO, it's definitely a big help. If you want to go the Lazy route however, Market samurai is an excellent keyword finder to help find good ones.
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- adils29 14 years ago
  
  Hey Jon and Maurisrx: Just thought of sharing a useful tool to drive traffic to your squeeze page.It's a traffic exchange tactic called Traffic Swarm.
  
  It works on the principle that you sign up for a traffic exchange, and then in the exchange you click on other people’s website links to build credits.
  Those credits are equal to other people clicking on your site as well. In this sense you are exchanging traffic with all the other people on that exchange.
  Its a great way to build a down line!
  
  You can opt to be a free or paid member!..
  
  Hope this is useful !
  
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MikeMorgan 14 years ago

Originally Posted by maurisrx

My BIG problem is driving traffic. I have learning internet marketing almost 1 year. But I didn't find clear technique to reveal it...

Hi maurisrx ,

Driving traffic is not hard .

There are lots of sources that can get you plenty of traffic.

Just search the forum and I am sure you are going to get lots of good ideas on how to drive traffic to your website .

One thing that you need to understand is that traffic could be either targeted or untargeted. And, targeted traffic sources are what would bring you the most success. So, I always recommend that you focus on highly targeted traffic sources.

Hope it helps.
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brittlesnc

14 years ago

Sent you my email bhunter.

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John Banks 14 years ago

Originally Posted by brittlesnc

Sent you my email bhunter.

Hi brittany just sent you a message
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hilhilginger

14 years ago

you have put the 10 specific points to earn online income.But are they practical to a new guy like me who wish to follow.

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John Banks 14 years ago

Originally Posted by hilhilginger

you have put the 10 specific points to earn online income.But are they practical to a new guy like me who wish to follow.

Absolutely! All you need to do is start with keyword research. Honestly that is one step you must take if you want maximum results. Think of building a site like building a.... errr building lol. The keyword research is like the foundation to that building, and without it you will have a pretty unstable house on your hands, and traffic will reflect that.

There are plenty of useful posts here to find out how to do keyword research correctly, and make sure u choose keywords with low competition and decent traffic to get best results. I personally prefer only using keywords with 30,000-50,000 results or less on google to rank almost immediately after an article or two on my site.

Even blogger sites can rank this way, so money is not an issue at all. All the methods I promote actually dont require any more money besides a domain name and hosting, and even those could wait until your free site earns you $11 for that.

Once you find a method that brings you success, find out why and rinse and repeat until you reach your desired income. Just don't always depend on free sites, as soon as you earn enough for a domain ditch it and use it as a backlink to your domain to juice that up quickly. Look at the free site in this case as a blueprint period and u could even transfer it but I've never tried that but im sure you could also find info on that here.
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kalindu

14 years ago

@ bhunter1212: wow great post. When it's come to traffic exchanging I would suggest Link referral .

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Manuelcrc

14 years ago

Great outline... Building traffic is very important or all you will have is a great product with no buyer. That's the last thing I want.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Manuelcrc

Great outline... Building traffic is very important or all you will have is a great product with no buyer. That's the last thing I want.

Lol its a lot of traffic issues I see. Honestly I havent had an issue with this but i just stress learning the fundamentals or the basics (whatever you wanna call it) of Keyword research for long term traffic and push my method above through social networks until that kicks in as it sometimes takes up to two months. :rolleyes:

I've heard some people even having success with classified ads and fiverr as well so this method can be pretty easy to tinker around with and build your own strategy to it.

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wtatlas

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Lol its a lot of traffic issues I see. Honestly I havent had an issue with this but i just stress learning the fundamentals or the basics (whatever you wanna call it) of Keyword research for long term traffic and push my method above through social networks until that kicks in as it sometimes takes up to two months. :rolleyes:

I've heard some people even having success with classified ads and fiverr as well so this method can be pretty easy to tinker around with and build your own strategy to it.

Hello,

Thanks for sharing a very interesting strategy. In common with some other people I find getting sufficient traffic to be the major problem. You mentioned using fiverr.com as a possible source of traffic and wondered how you use fiverr for this.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wtatlas

Hello,

Thanks for sharing a very interesting strategy. In common with some other people I find getting sufficient traffic to be the major problem. You mentioned using fiverr.com as a possible source of traffic and wondered how you use fiverr for this.

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Hi yes I mentioned using fiverr as a possible source of traffic, but I mentioned that others have success with fiver in similar ways. However, Im sure I can assist you if you plan on using that method as well. Here are a few methods that show some decent success in that area:

1. Offer simple services that people are interested in getting help with. Lets say you are pretty good at writing articles. Post a gig in that field and make sure to use keywords that are popular searches on the site. Also Make sure you do quality work with each gig you complete. After you finish the gig, also contact the requester of the gig mentioning your site or product that you offer to help them out in their area of interest further. This can be done after a few repeat offers or even a quick way to get an extra $5 fairly easily on top of the completed gig as they already trust you for your past work.

2. People love freebies! Offer a free sample to go along with your gig and make sure that it can impress the viewers. Many will possibly take the bait and request a gig to be completed under the field. Basically run that and
then follow method #1 the rest of the way.

3. Fiverr is definitely a numbers game! Try to post as many gigs as possible, changing up the words and tags and some of them will surely be able to pick up some sales. Try also promoting some of your popular gig links from there on sites like twitter and see if that can help increase requests. People also love reviews so make sure you can get some good ones under your popular gigs. I won't go into details for that one but there are some pretty tricky tactics for doing that as well. Then finish up with method #1 as well to top it off.

These are a few methods that are known to work, so just be creative and use words that are eye-catchers to get them noticed, then just watch what works and what doesn't and you should see your account fill up fairly easily.

Hope this helps you out

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wtatlas 14 years ago

Very helpful. Thanks a lot!
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  Originally Posted by Stephen Nolan
  
  Will try this and see how I get on - sounds like it will work
  
  Sure will! Just make sure you follow the steps correctly and its gonna be hard to not see some kind of profit coming in
  
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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by canhdong90

I failt to get traffic to my site. I release 50 articles, Hub and squidoo, socialbookmarking but traffic <10 a day.

Make sure you produce articles with good keyword research with low competition and decent traffic. Without paying attention to these things you could easily find yourself having hundreds of articles but still barely any traffic.

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hamzidosh

14 years ago

nice info...thanks for sharing.
I`d definitely come back to this after I`ve made enof from affiliate marketing.

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John Banks 14 years ago

Originally Posted by hamzidosh

nice info...thanks for sharing.
I`d definitely come back to this after I`ve made enof from affiliate marketing.

Sure no problem, and why not add it as an extra income stream to support your affiliate marketing? That's what I would typically do to support my affiliate sites a bit.

Its always better to have a few income streams per site instead of just having one. That way if one is a hit and a miss, others can pick up the slack until they all get to where you want them to be!
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Dano1981

14 years ago

hey chase,

if you could give me a suggestion or pointer(my brain fell out during that last earthquake, at least that's the excuse I use)

when I try to do my KWR using googles KWRT for terms like "difficulty" or "problem" in conjunction with whatever keyword niche phrase I'm trying to search numbers for, the niche words themselves are usually at least a 2 to 3 or 4 words long much less adding an additional word like "challenge", or "difficulty" or "problem" and the result I'm given back is usually "zero" because now the string is simply too long and apparently there are no monthly searches for such a phrase...

can you tell me a better way to address this point which I obviously can't think straight on?

If you could...

thank you chase !

dano~

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

1. Find A Problem (Time Management) That Many People Need A Solution To Immediately.

2. Create A Site With A Title Related To the Niche For The Problem(A Hosted Wordpress Site Works Best, But A Free Blogger Site Can Be Just As Effective With Good Keyword Research.)

3. Research The Problem If You Don't Know The Answer To The Problem. This Can Be Done Very Quickly With A Few Google Searches.

J. Chase

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Amitywill 14 years ago

Hi J. Chase I like the angle you're taking to get conversions.

Thanks for taking the time to write this post.

I think this would probably work quite well seeing as the visitors
would be able to get the book even if they paid a low amount like
a dollar therefore conversions would be pretty high.

I've thought about doing this before and might give it a go
pretty soon.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dano1981

hey chase,

if you could give me a suggestion or pointer(my brain fell out during that last earthquake, at least that's the excuse I use)

when I try to do my KWR using googles KWRT for terms like "difficulty" or "problem" in conjunction with whatever keyword niche phrase I'm trying to search numbers for, the niche words themselves are usually at least a 2 to 3 or 4 words long much less adding an additional word like "challenge", or "difficulty" or "problem" and the result I'm given back is usually "zero" because now the string is simply too long and apparently there are no monthly searches for such a phrase...

can you tell me a better way to address this point which I obviously can't think straight on?

If you could...

thank you chase !

dano~

Hi Dano,

I suggest just finding a base word to start with and make sure when searching you check "exact" on the left side and uncheck "broad." Also stats for local monthly searches should be your goal. Then test out ones you thing may have low competition by checking them on google search in quotes.

Try to go for ones for 50,000 or less to rank fairly easily.

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lassy715

14 years ago

bhunter1212,

I'm so glad to see someone willing to share something like this in this forum. This forum is filled with so much BS crap products and internet marketers selling "MMO" techniques to other internet marketers...the newbies who show up here are bombarded with so many strategies its ridiculous.

Thanks for sharing!

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lassy715

bhunter1212,

I'm so glad to see someone willing to share something like this in this forum. This forum is filled with so much BS crap products and internet marketers selling "MMO" techniques to other internet marketers...the newbies who show up here are bombarded with so many strategies its ridiculous.

Thanks for sharing!

Sure no problem at all Lassy. I have plenty of techniques I use and think of new ideas all the time so I definitely don't mind sharing a few that bring in success especially to a forum that has helped me out a great deal to get to the level im at.

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moonguy

14 years ago

Originally Posted by lassy715

bhunter1212,

I'm so glad to see someone willing to share something like this in this forum. This forum is filled with so much BS crap products and internet marketers selling "MMO" techniques to other internet marketers...the newbies who show up here are bombarded with so many strategies its ridiculous.

Thanks for sharing!

i think.. i'm agree with you ..

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moonguy 14 years ago

dear bhunter1212,

i believed you have succeeded of what you doing by the way you talk..
how many hours did you spent focus on internet biz for one day ?

i like this thread , thanks for writing here
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johnyeo90

14 years ago

I will try it soon,,hope it works.

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jasonvs

14 years ago

I really do believe that you hit the nail on the head in this short synopsis of yours. Thank you.

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Fun to Write

14 years ago

The OP has given everyone a great idea. This one seems pretty simple to set up. Newbies, if you are cash strapped and want to get started at something, he's just given you a blueprint.

Don't over think it, just take some action and give it a whirl. You've really got nothing to lose and everything to gain, even if you only make a few bucks. The education you get from actually doing things like this is worthwhile.

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John Banks 14 years ago

I Appreciate the compliments and I agree with your words 100%.

All you need to do is try and this method can easily been done in about an hour. Just pick a niche you actually want to write or research on, then think of a problem inside that niche and look for a problem that needs solving by a decent amount of people. You should at least try to get a couple keywords for your site with low competition and you can learn fairly easily by looking up keyword research.

Other than that just dont try any shortcuts. You know what you have to do so just do it and drive traffic to the strategy and you should see a few sales coming in. after that just rinse and repeat. you could even call these practice sites for the big leagues by just starting off on blogspot for free.

you Could even offer multiple pdfs this way on one site for different topics in the niche. After you make a decent profit from it to get you one thing nice, i suggest you also invest in buying a domain and a hosting account to increase your skills further.
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paulie888

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fun to Write

The OP has given everyone a great idea. This one seems pretty simple to set up. Newbies, if you are cash strapped and want to get started at something, he's just given you a blueprint.

Don't over think it, just take some action and give it a whirl. You've really got nothing to lose and everything to gain, even if you only make a few bucks. The education you get from actually doing things like this is worthwhile.

This is the key here, you want to practice this until you become good at it. If it's the very first time you're applying this method, will you earn $1000 in a month right away from the first site that you put up? Probably not.

But it'll give you invaluable experience that only comes from doing things, and after a while you'll find that this becomes second nature to you, and this is probably when you'll start getting the same type of results that the OP has.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

This is the key here, you want to practice this until you become good at it. If it's the very first time you're applying this method, will you earn $1000 in a month right away from the first site that you put up? Probably not.

But it'll give you invaluable experience that only comes from doing things, and after a while you'll find that this becomes second nature to you, and this is probably when you'll start getting the same type of results that the OP has.

Thanks Paulie, And He's Absolutely correct. If you are new to internet marketing and are trying to make a decent income, don't feel discouraged if you aren't bringing in the income I stated immediately.

Once you see some results though, make sure to just scale it up, build other sites and apply the method. As you can see $5-10 isn't a get rich scheme, but once your site starts getting some decent traffic, make sure your content is entertaining and valuable to readers to get higher conversions.

Also those that are sending me PM's I cant reply to them until I reach 50 posts but I will be glad to answer afterwards

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paulie888

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Thanks Paulie, And He's Absolutely correct. If you are new to internet marketing and are trying to make a decent income, don't feel discouraged if you aren't bringing in the income I stated immediately.

Once you see some results though, make sure to just scale it up, build other sites and apply the method. As you can see $5-10 isn't a get rich scheme, but once your site starts getting some decent traffic, make sure your content is entertaining and valuable to readers to get higher conversions.

Also those that are sending me PM's I cant reply to them until I reach 50 posts but I will be glad to answer afterwards

I'm sure that you probably also add posts to your blog on a consistent basis, as this gets people coming back and also makes them want to share your blog with others.

By asking for a "donation" instead of a sale, it's a very low-key and low pressure way of making a sale, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if this results in greater conversions than a regular sales approach.

If you haven't done this already, be sure to add social media sharing/bookmarking buttons to your blog, as this will greatly enhance its ability to go viral.

Paul

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

I'm sure that you probably also add posts to your blog on a consistent basis, as this gets people coming back and also makes them want to share your blog with others.

By asking for a "donation" instead of a sale, it's a very low-key and low pressure way of making a sale, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if this results in greater conversions than a regular sales approach.

If you haven't done this already, be sure to add social media sharing/bookmarking buttons to your blog, as this will greatly enhance its ability to go viral.

Paul

Yes well actually I usually don't bother with updating the free sites too often, but I have content on them to post on future dates so I never have to look at them again, but its pretty much the same concept with a bit of automation.

Also that's the exact point of this method you pointed out- Asking for donations instead of offering it for sale makes it less pressured on the visitor and that in turn usually brings better conversions as well

As for Social Media, I usually don't use that method for this but I use it for some of my other sites instead, but it can definitely increase the profits of these sites further

Great stuff Paul!

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Gradle 14 years ago

Thanks bhunter1212 for sharing and inspiring
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wildturkey

14 years ago

I'm not trying to be a troll, but it bothered me that Every Other Word Was Capitalized. Did you honestly type that or just copy it from someone with terrible English?

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wildturkey

I'm not trying to be a troll, but it bothered me that Every Other Word Was Capitalized. Did you honestly type that or just copy it from someone with terrible English?

haha its no problem at all.... I type like that when im taking my notes but each of my notes is a strategy I test out and if it succeeds, I release as a pdf.

But Its Only Written Like This So Try To Imagine The First Letter Lower Cased If It Bothers You :rolleyes:

Also Im Not Writing Sales Copy Here At All So I Say Why Bring Sand To The Beach?

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gazstevens

14 years ago

Wow, what an absolutely fantastic post, I love it when you come across a really good member in this forum who is happy to share good info. with us newbies without trying to make a few bucks out of us.
keep up the good work
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tilanus

14 years ago

Sorry to mention this on such a serious topic (making money online) but I was distracted by your profile picture and I was just wondering: does your cat play gitar???!!

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tilanus

Sorry to mention this on such a serious topic (making money online) but I was distracted by your profile picture and I was just wondering: does your cat play gitar???!!

Haha yep he sure does and he's a natural born star too all thanks to yours truly

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Janice Sperry

14 years ago

7. Here Is Where It changes up: Offer The pdf As A Free Download For People Who Donate To Your Site. Say Something Along the Lines: "Buy Me Lunch For The Day And I'll Provide You With My $100 Value Book Only Sold To 25 Readers: ("Insert Title Here") As A Token Of My Appreciation."

Sorry to be picky but how is something that is free also sold? Also how will this marketing work if you stop at 25 people or are you just misleading people?

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Dave Rodman

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

8. Place Your Paypal Link Inside The Donation Box, Then Place It In An Area Of Your Site That Makes It Stick Out Like A Sore Thumb So Every Visitor Is Forced To Notice It.

First off, you can't be serious right? You're not charging for the EBOOK, you're giving it away for donations? What's the difference between actually charging for it? You said you are only putting a few pages of content on the site so it's not like there is a wealth of information where they feel a donation is warranted.

People that get donations put out content like this...

Nikon D40

Second, I don't mean to rant but I absolutely HATE advice like this. Only because it is so misleading to people starting out. Let's be honest. This might sound quick/easy, but you aren't making any money doing this. I don't expect you to want to prove me wrong, but you're not making $1k/month by putting together some crappy ebook and fooling people into thinking they aren't buying the product, but instead getting the product for a donation.

I don't expect people to listen to this, but take it for what it's worth. You're not going to have a) passive income b) reliable income c) substantial income by putting out crappy sites. You might make a few bucks (I even doubt that), but in the end you are just a hustler.

Here is the strategy in a nutshell:

-Research a topic you know nothing about.
-Write a book based on 30 minutes of research.
-Throw up a 3 page site with little content
-Drive traffic!!!!!!!
-Don't charge for book. Charge a donation and GIVE THE BOOK AWAY.
-Get rich.

PS. Can you imagine walking into a car dealer and getting a deal like that? Free Car with donation of $20K. WOW!!!!

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Rodman

First off, you can't be serious right? You're not charging for the EBOOK, you're giving it away for donations? What's the difference between actually charging for it? You said you are only putting a few pages of content on the site so it's not like there is a wealth of information where they feel a donation is warranted.

People that get donations put out content like this...

Nikon D40

Second, I don't mean to rant but I absolutely HATE advice like this. Only because it is so misleading to people starting out. Let's be honest. This might sound quick/easy, but you aren't making any money doing this. I don't expect you to want to prove me wrong, but you're not making $1k/month by putting together some crappy ebook and fooling people into thinking they aren't buying the product, but instead getting the product for a donation.

I don't expect people to listen to this, but take it for what it's worth. You're not going to have a) passive income b) reliable income c) substantial income by putting out crappy sites. You might make a few bucks (I even doubt that), but in the end you are just a hustler.

Here is the strategy in a nutshell:

-Research a topic you know nothing about.
-Write a book based on 30 minutes of research.
-Throw up a 3 page site with little content
-Drive traffic!!!!!!!
-Don't charge for book. Charge a donation and GIVE THE BOOK AWAY.
-Get rich.

PS. Can you imagine walking into a car dealer and getting a deal like that? Free Car with donation of $20K. WOW!!!!

Actually I disagree with you. Do you know how many pdf's are set up in a fancy way to make the buyer believe that they are getting more than is really there?

My point is find a few problems that a good area of people need solving and drive traffic that want that problem solved. Its not too hard to do as long as you know a bit of keyword research, and even if you don't thats what forum marketing is for.

You can easily make a few posts showing that you know what you are talking about, then build trust. Once you have either traffic or people to help then the possibilities are endless.

I personally don't limit it to just one website, but choosing a good niche can easily get you the title's amount. I see it like this and it works every time:

I shoot for 1% conversion. So I find a way to get 2000-20,000 visitors per month, which may seem a bit hard to do but if done with experience in keyword research, every article could bring a good chunk of traffic.

Usually I end up with 10% conversions though because I don't write crappy content on my sites by far and I also try to entertain the readers a bit too, but im pretty good at psychology so I know how to connect with them and have created a simple method to writing knockout articles each time, but I may release that one day to the public.

The more valuable you are seen in the reader's eyes the higher chances of making money with this method. Just be creative in your approach and don't depend on one site if new to bring in these numbers. If 10 sites can bring in $100 per month you get the same effect

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Dave Rodman

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Actually I disagree with you. Do you know how many pdf's are set up in a fancy way to make the buyer believe that they are getting more than is really there?

My point is find a few problems that a good area of people need solving and drive traffic that want that problem solved. Its not too hard to do as long as you know a bit of keyword research, and even if you don't thats what forum marketing is for.

You can easily make a few posts showing that you know what you are talking about, then build trust. Once you have either traffic or people to help then the possibilities are endless.

I personally don't limit it to just one website, but choosing a good niche can easily get you the title's amount. I see it like this and it works every time:

I shoot for 1% conversion. So I find a way to get 2000-20,000 visitors per month, which may seem a bit hard to do but if done with experience in keyword research, every article could bring a good chunk of traffic.

Usually I end up with 10% conversions though because I don't write crappy content on my sites by far and I also try to entertain the readers a bit too, but im pretty good at psychology so I know how to connect with them and have created a simple method to writing knockout articles each time, but I may release that one day to the public.

The more valuable you are seen in the reader's eyes the higher chances of making money with this method. Just be creative in your approach and don't depend on one site if new to bring in these numbers. If 10 sites can bring in $100 per month you get the same effect

So you build 1 site, hope to get at least upwards of 20K visitors per month, and HOPEFULLY get 10% conversions. And then you repeat this 10 times for a range of 20K-200K visitors.

For one, getting 2k-20K visitors is not all that easy. Two, it's kind of a waste to get the visitors and then try and monetize them with a low-budget ebook, and finally, there is NO WAY you're getting a 10% conversion on something like this. I don't care how great your "psychology" is. You probably won't even get a .5% conversion.

If you're going to do the work to drive 20K visitors to a site, make a real site.

Finally, having a $7 product in addition to however you are monetizing is one thing....creating a site with that being the primary monetization is kinda silly.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Rodman

So you build 1 site, hope to get at least upwards of 20K visitors per month, and HOPEFULLY get 10% conversions. And then you repeat this 10 times for a range of 20K-200K visitors.

For one, getting 2k-20K visitors is not all that easy. Two, it's kind of a waste to get the visitors and then try and monetize them with a low-budget ebook, and finally, there is NO WAY you're getting a 10% conversion on something like this. I don't care how great your "psychology" is. You probably won't even get a .5% conversion.

If you're going to do the work to drive 20K visitors to a site, make a real site.

Finally, having a $7 product in addition to however you are monetizing is one thing....creating a site with that being the primary monetization is kinda silly.

Hmm... you seem pretty firm in your debate that it wont work.... Well maybe it may not be for you and I see no point in arguing.

Seriously folks its not hard this is a pretty general idea, just add to multiple sites and find ways to get relatively targeted traffic. Traffic is only difficult when you try to take shortcuts to get it. Everything that is on the internet is text typed by someone, or either copied and pasted :rolleyes:

Its pointless to not do the one method that is in your face and that's something most overlook. Your hard work can pay for years to come so learn what you need and utilize strategies.

SEO is Key!

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YoichiSpeaks

14 years ago

Marketing = traffic hence internet "marketing". Obvious, I know, but you'll be shocked at how many people actually do market their website. Give away the e-book, build a list, and keep marketing to that list. Start it right from the beginning, and it will pay off. Don't chase the money.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by YoichiSpeaks

Marketing = traffic hence internet "marketing". Obvious, I know, but you'll be shocked at how many people actually do market their website. Give away the e-book, build a list, and keep marketing to that list. Start it right from the beginning, and it will pay off. Don't chase the money.

Thats true and i agree even though im not a fan of list buiding when it comes to shoestring budgets.

However, if you can dish out 1 pdf for this method in an hour, why cant you make a couple new ones for your list? Lol the thing with this idea is that I left it so general that the possibilities are endless.

Just be creative in your approach and you can bring in some decent numbers relatively easily

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Antonios 14 years ago

I consider that traffic is the name of the game.

But not just traffic, targeted traffic.

And could say that not necessarily targeted traffic, but buying traffic.

You can have a 100k visitors to your site interested in what you have, but if they want it free, no buyers, no earnings, no profits.

Than you can build a 100k mailing list, if the above paragraph applies, you are in the same sad poor condition.

To get to that extra $1k a month, we need buying traffic.

And with all the recent fuss about Auto Traffic millenium systems, softwares that every guru is offering.

There giving light to so many "auto traffic" systems that they have been using.

If you have a software that cost you months or years and over $40k's to produce why are you giving it away for $37.oo and only to the first 300 buyers. The math: 300 x $37= $ 11,100.

WOW!

They are losing money like hell!

I think that all these gurus' what they are doing is giving out what they have used and made probably millions, but now this doesn't work. Or results are a shame.

Competition is fierce. Almost deadly.

Most of the products offered are blogging, keyword, article writing, seo, media buying, site buying, social media, and several other automation systems.

But all of them require work, and if you have money, the better.

RECAP: all points presented through these posts are true in some way or another.

Sincerely,

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  i hope this help me out. .thanks for the post lad
  
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- cpadualcore 14 years ago
  
  Everything good till step 9. . But step 10 is where the real pain starts. Driving traffic gives headache to most webmasters including myself. .
  
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  Originally Posted by cpadualcore
  
  Everything good till step 9. . But step 10 is where the real pain starts. Driving traffic gives headache to most webmasters including myself. .
  
  I see there are many others with traffic issues as well. I guess i'll make another thread soon about a few east traffic techniques to help solve that issue.
  
  Until then I suggest also checking out my thread I just made about getting backlinks for your site fast as well, found here:
  
  http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...st-easily.html
  
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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by JWMims

It is about the traffic. And no, it is not EASY to get, but it is doable. There is really no such thing as set it and forget it, no matter what you may have read in the million e-mails you get each day from the gurus. Like the turtle and the hare, you have to keep plodding away and you will reach your goal. The key, however, is to diversify. Don't just stick to one site or niche. It also makes your day a little more fun and interesting by breaking things up, so you won't get bored so quickly.

Exactly, just change up your plan a bit and find fish that will bite. The point of this method is not to promote the ebook, but to add value to that particular niche, then have that "invisible sale" hidden in plain sight. People will notice it and will more than likely grab it if they see your site as useful.

Its much easier promoting getting a donation for maybe a salad or something around $5-$10 and stating that each donation will recieve valuable content.

Think of what Firefox does with its promotion, offering free t-shirts for donations and the donation actually costs more than any t-shirt I know, but I bet they still get a lot of donations

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upto20

14 years ago

That is very informative...thanks..not all maybe applied it still depends on the marketer..

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Ehanson 14 years ago

Some good starting points for newbies laid out in a simple plan.

Though, I would modify it a bit myself (outsource the article writing or find PLR content once you start making money to reinvest into your business) but best not to over complicate things and just get going.
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John Banks 14 years ago

Originally Posted by thelensboss

How do you price an ebook?

Not sure what you mean. You can go on the upload and sell price to set it all up easily with the link i provided.

Or

If you are talking about how much to value your book, that's really up to you. Just use proper judgment and make sure it has a bit of value to it if you are using a pretty high value
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coolbreeze

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

7. Here Is Where It changes up: Offer The pdf As A Free Download For People Who Donate To Your Site. Say Something Along the Lines: "Buy Me Lunch For The Day And I'll Provide You With My $100 Value Book Only Sold To 25 Readers: ("Insert Title Here") As A Token Of My Appreciation."

J. Chase

Great ideas! One question - would the line 'buy me lunch for one day' make you seem unprofessional? I would think it sounds as if you are not making enough money to pay your own bills so obviously then the quality of the product might not be all that good.

I don't think I ever saw any top guys in internet marketing, coaching, weight loss and other areas ever make an offer in that way.

Please explain as perhaps I am missing it.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by coolbreeze

Great ideas! One question - would the line 'buy me lunch for one day' make you seem unprofessional? I would think it sounds as if you are not making enough money to pay your own bills so obviously then the quality of the product might not be all that good.

I don't think I ever saw any top guys in internet marketing, coaching, weight loss and other areas ever make an offer in that way.

Please explain as perhaps I am missing it.

You Know, I was just about to spill too much on this one. This is a very general idea, just write out a blueprint and play the roll of the blueprint. One person's(site's) lunch could become another site's maintenance or upgrade. That is what we call, a variable.

This is all a numbers game, you just have to add a bit of science to the wordplay to get an advantage. Test what works for the niche and just do it. This is like a first approach idea. This approach can even build copyrighting skills fast. It's an idea to fool around with

But then again, some newbies still want someone to spoon feed or hold their hand through every single part of it. :rolleyes:

B. Hunter

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Sleinad

14 years ago

Fantastic post.

I just can't see getting enough traffic in order to make the money being an easy task..

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gvannorman

14 years ago

This is a pretty straight forward step by step method to make money online. The question that I think will be asked by a lot of newbies is what they should write about or sell.

I personally know that this is where I always come to a sudden stop. I always seem to have ideas on something, then when I want to put a site up dedicated to the subject, I have problems finding keywords that will drive traffic to the site.

Another issue is that people want instant gratification. They are not willing to wait for the site to mature and the traffic to start flowing in. It seems that everyone is stuck in the "Build it and they will come" state of mind.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by gvannorman

This is a pretty straight forward step by step method to make money online. The question that I think will be asked by a lot of newbies is what they should write about or sell.

I personally know that this is where I always come to a sudden stop. I always seem to have ideas on something, then when I want to put a site up dedicated to the subject, I have problems finding keywords that will drive traffic to the site.

Another issue is that people want instant gratification. They are not willing to wait for the site to mature and the traffic to start flowing in. It seems that everyone is stuck in the "Build it and they will come" state of mind.

I Disagree. If That was the case then people wouldn't visit blogspot sites so much now would they?

Also just build ideas for, lets say an autoblog. Some may not be winners but you can definitely reach $100 quickly with each site with enough traffic. I just go for the amount of traffic I would like to get and try to get a small percentage of that for each keyword, then do that for 15-30 keywords.

That alone is close enough to possibly call a guarantee once it indexes and hits all those google pages' top ranks. Then build backlinks to make it even stronger.

Build a new site, then make the old one a backlink to juice up the site fast and use that to build a list.

Be creative. Test And Analyze.

Then build it up even more and tranfer it to a bigger site. Rinse and repeat

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Jonathan Denney

14 years ago

bhunter1212,

Maybe this will make you a few bucks, but you've built nothing with any value besides a $5 ebook.

And don't get me wrong, when you first start out your main goal should be to make your first sale just to see that the money is real and all you need to do is extract it, but once you've gotten past that you need to build things with real value.

The gurus don't say "The money is in the list" for nothing, and besides their experience in online marketing, their huge lists are the main thing they profit from.

Instead of just making money online, I'd focus on building a business.

Build something that you can leverage in the long run.

Create sales funnels that captures leads and up-sells them to your own products and services, and then test and optimize.

Any products you sell that aren't yours should simply compliment your own product (Like if your selling landing page templates, include your Host Gator affiliate link.) or be promoted to your leads after your done promoting your own.

If you create a funnel, all you need to do is put traffic through it.

This way you can...
1. Build a list of prospects interested in your products that you can tap into over and over. (A list is currency, it can grow through trading and investing.)
2. Have your own products that you own rights to, and will never lose the ability to sell.
3. Create an online presence for yourself by establishing yourself as an expert or authority.

In other words, focus on the long run and less on the make money now.

The benefits are much greater.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan Denney

bhunter1212,

Maybe this will make you a few bucks, but you've built nothing with any value besides a $5 ebook.

And don't get me wrong, when you first start out your main goal should be to make your first sale just to see that the money is real and all you need to do is extract it, but once you've gotten past that you need to build things with real value.

The gurus don't say "The money is in the list" for nothing, and besides their experience in online marketing, their huge lists are the main thing they profit from.

Instead of just making money online, I'd focus on building a business.

Build something that you can leverage in the long run.

Create sales funnels that captures leads and up-sells them to your own products and services, and then test and optimize.

Any products you sell that aren't yours should simply compliment your own product (Like if your selling landing page templates, include your Host Gator affiliate link.) or be promoted to your leads after your done promoting your own.

If you create a funnel, all you need to do is put traffic through it.

This way you can...
1. Build a list of prospects interested in your products that you can tap into over and over. (A list is currency, it can grow through trading and investing.)
2. Have your own products that you own rights to, and will never lose the ability to sell.
3. Create an online presence for yourself by establishing yourself as an expert or authority.

In other words, focus on the long run and less on the make money now.

The benefits are much greater.

- Jonathan

Hi yes this isn't meant to be a long term profit, but instead a make money before you make some real money method. It's meant to add an extra income stream throughout the beginning stages to build up another site or upgrade. I personally do this on sites like blogger and .info, and use the money I earn to upgrade, and possibly even outsource.

Plus this method actually works without needing a list, and some marketers may not like that idea or aren't too experienced in that field just yet, so this would be a strategy to help buy a team of sites, get premium themes, hosting costs, and buy an autoresponder as well as other tools.

And all of this could be accomplished with one site. Scale it up and you could have some relatively easy cash for bills/etc.

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upgradereality

14 years ago

Sounds like a good strategy.
Could you give an example of a site that you have made that's making you money? I'd love to know more.

Could I email/pm you?

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singhavn

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Well I've been a member of the warrior forum for quite some time now and its helped me out so much in internet marketing, so I feel I should share a helpful tip to people starting out, or even experienced marketers bring in an extra 4 figures Easily.

For this guide I'll use the example of people having problems with Time Management. Here Are My Steps:

1. Find A Problem (Time Management) That Many People Need A Solution To Immediately.

2. Create A Site With A Title Related To the Niche For The Problem(A Hosted Wordpress Site Works Best, But A Free Blogger Site Can Be Just As Effective With Good Keyword Research.)

3. Research The Problem If You Don't Know The Answer To The Problem. This Can Be Done Very Quickly With A Few Google Searches.

4. Build A Good List Of Solutions To The Issue, Then Make It Into A pdf. In This Particular Niche(Time Management) It Can Be Maybe A List Of 50-100 Ways To Save Time.

5. Name Your Book Something Catchy, Then Create An Ebook Cover. this Can Be Done for Free At eBook Cover Creator - eCover Design Online Free (Not An Affiliate Link)

6. Setup A Paypal account, then Upload The pdf online to either your site, or you can also do this free at Sell eBooks, Files, Downloads, Digital Products with Paypal - UPLOADnSELL.com (Not An Affiliate Link) I Usually Offer These For $5 Per Site.

7. Here Is Where It changes up: Offer The pdf As A Free Download For People Who Donate To Your Site. Say Something Along the Lines: "Buy Me Lunch For The Day And I'll Provide You With My $100 Value Book Only Sold To 25 Readers: ("Insert Title Here") As A Token Of My Appreciation."

8. Place Your Paypal Link Inside The Donation Box, Then Place It In An Area Of Your Site That Makes It Stick Out Like A Sore Thumb So Every Visitor Is Forced To Notice It.

9. Add A Few Pages Of Content To Your Site. Make Sure The Content Is Related To The Niche And Is Seen As Valuable To Readers. This Could Even Be Duplicate Content, But I Prefer to Use Unique Content Myself So I Can Enjoy Organic Content To The Fullest. Videos And Pics Also Help Distinguish Your Content, And Videos Can Easily Be Made In Windows Movie Maker If You're Camera Shy.

10. Drive Traffic! Try To Get Visitors That Are Actually Interested In The Problem Your Product Offers A Solution To. Doing This It Should Be Fairly Easy To Get Around 200 Sales If You Use It Correctly. Also Submit It To Search Engines so It Gets Indexed Especially If You Do SEO. I Personally Make Around $3,000 Per Site I Use This Technique On Even On Free Sites, But Im Pretty Good At SEO Myself

Bonus Tip: Find A Clickbank Product That Goes Along With The Niche You Choose And Also Offer It On Your Site As Well As Other Income Streams. a Lot Of Affiliates Even Offer Banners And More To Provide On Your Site. This Way You Don't Just Put All Your Eggs In One Basket, and Can See Cash Coming In From All Directions!

So there you have it. this is what I do when I either need some extra cash fast, or just want to increase profits on one of my sites. So what are you waiting for? You have no excuse to not be making cash at this moment so get started now researching/writing!

Hmm, I Could Have Probably Offered This As A Product to sell, but ive already hit submit so enjoy! :p

J. Chase

Nice post and thanks for sharing. I was always wondering how people would be making money with donations. After all you are asking for donation

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GeorgR.

14 years ago

Sorry, something about this posting is way off.

1) I think you left out the most critical and most important part (SEO) - because simply submitting to search engines wont give you traffic - AT ALL. In fact, who (anymore) is actually"submitting" to search engines? Your posting does in no way answer the question how you would get traffic to your ebook.

2) Donations. I have big, big doubts that you make much by giving away the book for free and asking for donations. Not unless you already established HEAPS of traffic/downloads where the occasional person then would donate and such a system might work.

Again: The most important factor HOW to get traffic to your site/product is missing, IMO.

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Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

Sorry, something about this posting is way off.

1) I think you left out the most critical and most important part (SEO) - because simply submitting to search engines wont give you traffic - AT ALL. In fact, who (anymore) is actually"submitting" to search engines? Your posting does in no way answer the question how you would get traffic to your ebook.

2) Donations. I have big, big doubts that you make much by giving away the book for free and asking for donations. Not unless you already established HEAPS of traffic/downloads where the occasional person then would donate and such a system might work.

Again: The most important factor HOW to get traffic to your site/product is missing, IMO.

You're right. Honestly, I'd be surprised if someone is anyone in this thread implements this and makes more than $20/month. Prove me wrong. But I've seen this play out a lot. It seems simple, but in practical terms, it doesn't ad up.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Rodman

You're right. Honestly, I'd be surprised if someone is anyone in this thread implements this and makes more than $20/month. Prove me wrong. But I've seen this play out a lot. It seems simple, but in practical terms, it doesn't ad up.

The point is to make startup money to invest in the sites you build. And if you couldnt find a way to make 10 sales this way, then why are you in Internet marketing?

Well it could also be a copywriting issue but i've had no issue in that area by just thinking like a visitor would for my approach.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgR.

Sorry, something about this posting is way off.

1) I think you left out the most critical and most important part (SEO) - because simply submitting to search engines wont give you traffic - AT ALL. In fact, who (anymore) is actually"submitting" to search engines? Your posting does in no way answer the question how you would get traffic to your ebook.

2) Donations. I have big, big doubts that you make much by giving away the book for free and asking for donations. Not unless you already established HEAPS of traffic/downloads where the occasional person then would donate and such a system might work.

Again: The most important factor HOW to get traffic to your site/product is missing, IMO.

Check out the replies throughout the thread. Actually I did reply and I even mentioned it in my initial post that keyword research works best.

Even check number 10. I stated myself I get good results with SEO, so why try otherwise? (Even though you could with the right strategy.)

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xixi12

14 years ago

Wow! Well written post. With a proper keyword research, targeted traffic should not be a problem. Thanks for sharing this info. Very useful

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Robert Colle

14 years ago

Great points. But you have to consider also the fact that traffic is not all what is needed as the poster above has already pointed out. You need traffic that is not only interested in what you have to offer but that is also willing to pay a price to get it.

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bsuperiority

14 years ago

Interesting strategy. Thank you for sharing the links to ebook cover site. I'm going to try that.

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prostock81

14 years ago

I have to agree getting traffic is my downfall-I understand what they are saying etc. but the implementation is my problem. I have heard alot about outsourcing is this recommended for a newbie to try to get traffic? Without a big budget etc. don't want to spend a ton on outsourcing or would you just say GO FOR IT, start writing and submitting articles and see what happens? Thanks

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by prostock81

I have to agree getting traffic is my downfall-I understand what they are saying etc. but the implementation is my problem. I have heard alot about outsourcing is this recommended for a newbie to try to get traffic? Without a big budget etc. don't want to spend a ton on outsourcing or would you just say GO FOR IT, start writing and submitting articles and see what happens? Thanks

I wouldn't recommend outsourcing to a newbie unless you have a lot of cash to spare or know what you are doing. You have to learn how to find the right people to work for you and also for the best price, or it can add up faster than u think and it may not all be quality.

I suggest as a newbie to learn all you can and don't spend too much money, maybe even no money at all unless you know one of the best ways to spend properly

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chiwawa

14 years ago

Very informative tutorial..thanks for sharing and i'll make sure to read them all since its much and long.

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jerrywilhelm

14 years ago

I recommend Automatic Backlink Creator, a wordpress plugin. for backlinking. You will see more traffic as your site rises in the rankings, backlinks and article marketing are the way to get traffic, use a service like Linkjuicer.

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xd14jhb

14 years ago

I really like the simplicity yet thoroughness with which you presented this information. Keep up the good work !!

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common_sense

14 years ago

That's pretty good advice.
It won't work in many markets. The less sophisticated the market is, the easier it is to succeed.

I wish I could get my first affiliate sale already. I really do want to believe. I keep putting all those hours into building really nice websites, but not a lot of results so far.

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14 years ago

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thelensboss

doesn't matter how nice a site you have if you have not focused on traffic. maybe you have but idk.
it is sad that some horrible websites get lots of traffic but good ones get none.

Keyword Research is key... maybe some awful sites lucked up on finding some good keywords.... I know I did for a couple of sites when I first started and was surprised of the effect it gave, especially for domain names

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by common_sense

That's pretty good advice.
It won't work in many markets. The less sophisticated the market is, the easier it is to succeed.

I wish I could get my first affiliate sale already. I really do want to believe. I keep putting all those hours into building really nice websites, but not a lot of results so far.

actually the market doesn't matter. The beauty of this idea is that you can be creative and apply whatever you need to supplement your site.

For Example:

Say you want to go for dog training. Well you know more than likely anyone looking for tips obviously may need dog food/toys/etc.

How to take advantage of this?

How about creating a guide to getting some of that stuff much cheaper like say a big coupon guide? How about making a guide to find some of this stuff for free?

Guess what? That's not the only category for dog training you can use. Also this method can pretty much never be saturated since your traffic to your site is the ones that decide to bring in the sales for these.

So the only thing stopping you is not being creative, or wanting to be spoon-fed a blueprint.

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pyrotechno

14 years ago

Just out of interest, do you (OP) or anyone else have any examples of sites that you own where you sell info products? How much do you usually profit if you don't mind sharing?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by pyrotechno

Just out of interest, do you (OP) or anyone else have any examples of sites that you own where you sell info products? How much do you usually profit if you don't mind sharing?

No spoon-feeding guys this is as much as im giving before you end up learning my method.

And It really depends on the site for profits. I can usually net in the range of $500-$3000 on each site and I price these mini guides for $5-$10 to supplement my clickbank/other affiliate products.

Just bring in targeted traffic, or a heck of a lot of general traffic, and someone is sure to take the bait. You can even do this idea with some of those instant paypal affiliate sites and rewrite some plr's if you're really lazy about it.

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pethanks

14 years ago

Very helpful steps to follow. This can help warriors a lot.

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edgelance

14 years ago

This is absolutely a great posted. I sometimes see a site with downloadable PDF and a donate Paypal icon under it, and don't know this tactic could works very well if done it in the right way. I will definitely give it a try later.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by edgelance

This is absolutely a great posted. I sometimes see a site with downloadable PDF and a donate Paypal icon under it, and don't know this tactic could works very well if done it in the right way. I will definitely give it a try later.

Also I see a lot of sites that say something along the lines "Please donate to help keep the site's content free" or something around that idea and im guessing people have success that way as well as ive seen quite a few and most don't even provide a download along with it.

I'm guessing my method and that combined could bring in some pretty good conversions... I think I might try that and see how it works out

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by deepakseo

this is good but this log way i have short way and very easily

True that there are shorter methods but this particular method has short term potential as well as long term potential if done correctly

Short and easy usually don't have qualities of both and i guess im not stressing keyword research enough, but beginners won't understand much of that nor autoblogging or advanced social media marketing techniques, etc.

This is one of hundreds of strategies I've come up with that can easily be tweaked a bit to suit anyone's needs

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twoblind

14 years ago

Great Post Man! There were some resources there I have never heard of. Now I'm trying to figure out which problem to solve

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Originally Posted by twoblind

Great Post Man! There were some resources there I have never heard of. Now I'm trying to figure out which problem to solve

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Well I've been a member of the warrior forum for quite some time now and its helped me out so much in internet marketing, so I feel I should share a helpful tip to people starting out, or even experienced marketers bring in an extra 4 figures Easily.

For this guide I'll use the example of people having problems with Time Management. Here Are My Steps:

1. Find A Problem (Time Management) That Many People Need A Solution To Immediately.

2. Create A Site With A Title Related To the Niche For The Problem(A Hosted Wordpress Site Works Best, But A Free Blogger Site Can Be Just As Effective With Good Keyword Research.)

3. Research The Problem If You Don't Know The Answer To The Problem. This Can Be Done Very Quickly With A Few Google Searches.

4. Build A Good List Of Solutions To The Issue, Then Make It Into A pdf. In This Particular Niche(Time Management) It Can Be Maybe A List Of 50-100 Ways To Save Time.

5. Name Your Book Something Catchy, Then Create An Ebook Cover. this Can Be Done for Free At eBook Cover Creator - eCover Design Online Free (Not An Affiliate Link)

6. Setup A Paypal account, then Upload The pdf online to either your site, or you can also do this free at Sell eBooks, Files, Downloads, Digital Products with Paypal - UPLOADnSELL.com (Not An Affiliate Link) I Usually Offer These For $5 Per Site.

7. Here Is Where It changes up: Offer The pdf As A Free Download For People Who Donate To Your Site. Say Something Along the Lines: "Buy Me Lunch For The Day And I'll Provide You With My $100 Value Book Only Sold To 25 Readers: ("Insert Title Here") As A Token Of My Appreciation."

8. Place Your Paypal Link Inside The Donation Box, Then Place It In An Area Of Your Site That Makes It Stick Out Like A Sore Thumb So Every Visitor Is Forced To Notice It.

9. Add A Few Pages Of Content To Your Site. Make Sure The Content Is Related To The Niche And Is Seen As Valuable To Readers. This Could Even Be Duplicate Content, But I Prefer to Use Unique Content Myself So I Can Enjoy Organic Content To The Fullest. Videos And Pics Also Help Distinguish Your Content, And Videos Can Easily Be Made In Windows Movie Maker If You're Camera Shy.

10. Drive Traffic! Try To Get Visitors That Are Actually Interested In The Problem Your Product Offers A Solution To. Doing This It Should Be Fairly Easy To Get Around 200 Sales If You Use It Correctly. Also Submit It To Search Engines so It Gets Indexed Especially If You Do SEO. I Personally Make Around $3,000 Per Site I Use This Technique On Even On Free Sites, But Im Pretty Good At SEO Myself

Bonus Tip: Find A Clickbank Product That Goes Along With The Niche You Choose And Also Offer It On Your Site As Well As Other Income Streams. a Lot Of Affiliates Even Offer Banners And More To Provide On Your Site. This Way You Don't Just Put All Your Eggs In One Basket, and Can See Cash Coming In From All Directions!

So there you have it. this is what I do when I either need some extra cash fast, or just want to increase profits on one of my sites. So what are you waiting for? You have no excuse to not be making cash at this moment so get started now researching/writing!

Hmm, I Could Have Probably Offered This As A Product to sell, but ive already hit submit so enjoy! :p

J. Chase

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by dake

How do you promote your sites, how much time do you give in the start for promotion and what are the steps involved exactly, for promotion. Did you use adwords in the beginning or now?

Haha you want an exact explanation don't you? Sorry but if you've been following the posts within this thread I refuse to spoon feed

I can tell you that I start with keyword research, usually with the google adwords keyword tool and sometimes the traffic estimator tool, then once I create a site and have a good list of keywords, I submit articles directly to my site first, again keyword optimized, then submit those to article directories as backlinks.

Other than that depending on the site I promote throughout popular forums providing excellent tips to gain the spotlight, then I lead them to my site for more info.

I expect to only get a few sales through my free sites and wait for all my traffic from my keys to kick in, then upgrade it to a paid domain and scale it up, but usually I end up getting a lot more than a few sales

It's really not too much I think about in this method and I don't waste a lot of time on promotion for this method, again this isn't for long term income but instead for quick cash or investment money for the bigger goal.

I have a lot of PLR's to work with as well and use DNS(Dragon Naturally Speaking) so it usually takes me around an hour or two to complete a site and set it to post content for about a month and I'm on to the next.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Haha you want an exact explanation don't you? Sorry but if you've been following the posts within this thread I refuse to spoon feed

I can tell you that I start with keyword research, usually with the google adwords keyword tool and sometimes the traffic estimator tool, then once I create a site and have a good list of keywords, I submit articles directly to my site first, again keyword optimized, then submit those to article directories as backlinks.

Other than that depending on the site I promote throughout popular forums providing excellent tips to gain the spotlight, then I lead them to my site for more info.

I expect to only get a few sales through my free sites and wait for all my traffic from my keys to kick in, then upgrade it to a paid domain and scale it up, but usually I end up getting a lot more than a few sales

It's really not too much I think about in this method and I don't waste a lot of time on promotion for this method, again this isn't for long term income but instead for quick cash or investment money for the bigger goal.

I have a lot of PLR's to work with as well and use DNS(Dragon Naturally Speaking) so it usually takes me around an hour or two to complete a site and set it to post content for about a month and I'm on to the next.

Ya may be its called spoon feeding or maybe I don't want to waste my precious time in things that don't generate enough leads in the end.

Thank you for the detailed feedback.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by dake

Ya may be its called spoon feeding or maybe I don't want to waste my precious time in things that don't generate enough leads in the end.

Thank you for the detailed feedback.

No I prefer the phrase, try it for yourself first before you ask someone else exactly how they do it.

I'm doing just fine with the method, and I only left out a couple of details to make more this way, but I gave more than enough info to make it your own.

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ELK

14 years ago

I know people are balking at the fact that a "donation" is a viable or professional method of monetizing a site. But quite frankly, people like to help. People like to see themselves as helpers.

If they found the site, liked what they saw, and want more, they'll get a little extra mental boost by thinking they are helping that person. Plus, even if they just give a few bucks, they might think they are getting a real steal (that might make them reconsider and give just a tad more).

About 90-something percent of people on the internet have absolutely no idea what kind of traffic one modest blog might get. If it's simple, not flashy, but kind of cool, they might believe they are one of few who are "helping out". They may have no idea that the person makes a few $K from all the "help".

Now, I have no idea if he's referring to $3K a month or a year or what - and I've never done this myself for a website - but it will either go or it won't. If this takes you a handful of hours and costs $10 for a domain, the worst you could do is that nobody gives you anything for the entire year you've had the domain.

You are out a whole $10 and a few hours - perhaps more hours as you continue adding more content. But many people, including myself, have wasted more time and more money than that with absolutely no hope of return on that effort. If you choose a niche people are buying information for (check Amazon for some gauge on this), people will donate/buy for your good info. And if you use well-chosen keywords typed in by people who want solutions, you'll get people willing to find out what your report offers.

I put a few posts on a free blog in a low-competition niche and then IGNORED it for almost 2 years. Maybe one or two posts a year for that time, and I was stunned at how much traffic and how many links cropped up because other people thought it was useful. It has apparently dominated that keyword for a long time now.

I haven't focused on this as a money making site too much. It's kind of a micro-niche topic and I may play with it again once I've got some of my bigger plans laid in place. But that taught me an awful lot about what a small *useful* site can do.

Just imagine if I'd tried! LOL!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by ELK

I know people are balking at the fact that a "donation" is a viable or professional method of monetizing a site. But quite frankly, people like to help. People like to see themselves as helpers.

If they found the site, liked what they saw, and want more, they'll get a little extra mental boost by thinking they are helping that person. Plus, even if they just give a few bucks, they might think they are getting a real steal (that might make them reconsider and give just a tad more).

About 90-something percent of people on the internet have absolutely no idea what kind of traffic one modest blog might get. If it's simple, not flashy, but kind of cool, they might believe they are one of few who are "helping out". They may have no idea that the person makes a few from all the "help".

Now, I have no idea if he's referring to $3K a month or a year or what - and I've never done this myself for a website - but it will either go or it won't. If this takes you a handful of hours and costs $10 for a domain, the worst you could do is that nobody gives you anything for the entire year you've had the domain.

You are out a whole $10 and a few hours - perhaps more hours as you continue adding more content. But many people, including myself, have wasted more time and more money than that with absolutely no hope of return on that effort. If you choose a niche people are buying information for (check Amazon for some gauge on this), people will donate/buy for your good info. And if you use well-chosen keywords typed in by people who want solutions, you'll get people willing to find out what your report offers.

I put a few posts on a free blog in a low-competition niche and then IGNORED it for almost 2 years. Maybe one or two posts a year for that time, and I was stunned at how much traffic and how many links cropped up because other people thought it was useful. It has apparently dominated that keyword for a long time now.

I haven't focused on this as a money making site too much. It's kind of a micro-niche topic and I may play with it again once I've got some of my bigger plans laid in place. But that taught me an awful lot about what a small *useful* site can do.

Just imagine if I'd tried! LOL!

That's definitely the correct mindset! Even if this method paid for your domain name as well as hosting, wouldn't you say that it was a success?

If you can do it once, you can do it again. Scale it up to whatever you want it to be and you can make a lot from this method.

As for 3k in a month or in a year, I actually made that a couple of times in a month's time. It hasn't been constant, but I don't generally care for this method since it is one of my "pocket change methods"

Also I have a good volume of sites using this strategy, many are blogger sites at that so it doesn't take me long to build one for a low competition keyword and I can even use them as backlinks for my main sites. It's a win-win to me.

But just break it up as needed. If your site got you one donation(sale) for $10 per month this way, build 100 the exact same way and you should make 1k if im not mistaken. Heck, with good content on your site, you could make loads more the same way.

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Banned 14 years ago

Will try this i can say that this is a white hat method

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Originally Posted by imediazone

Will try this i can say that this is a white hat method

Ha I would personally say its a hint of grey hat but it definitely leans more towards white hat over black hat.
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JamesRiley

14 years ago

you should make this into a full pledged guide complete with screenshots and case study

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by JamesRiley

you should make this into a full pledged guide complete with screenshots and case study

Actually I just told another marketer I was gonna do that idea not too long ago because it's so popular and offer it as an opt in for my mailing list once I decide to set that up

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paulie888

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Actually I just told another marketer I was gonna do that idea not too long ago because it's so popular and offer it as an opt in for my mailing list once I decide to set that up

You really should, as it looks like your thread has generated strong interest, and I'm sure newbies would love to learn more about your process for doing this.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

You really should, as it looks like your thread has generated strong interest, and I'm sure newbies would love to learn more about your process for doing this.

Paul

Cool, I definitely will, maybe I should post another thread about making some nice profits in a short time range.... Or maybe I could offer a few as bonuses for an upcoming product i mite make soon.

The thing with most people starting with IM is that they believe its only a couple of ways to make money this way, and so called gurus only add fire to that flame with their misleading sales letters. :rolleyes:

But I know for a fact that its hundreds of ways to make money, and hundreds more can be created by making them your own. You just have to tke action and do it.

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  True but i have a lot more valuable content to sell and these quick ideas only just sweeten the deal.
  
  If I were a greedy marketer I could do it that way, but I soak up too much knowledge and would end up creating too many different courses... I plan on releasing maybe 3 and im off the addiction for good.
  
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Cool, I definitely will, maybe I should post another thread about making some nice profits in a short time range.... Or maybe I could offer a few as bonuses for an upcoming product i mite make soon.

The thing with most people starting with IM is that they believe its only a couple of ways to make money this way, and so called gurus only add fire to that flame with their misleading sales letters. :rolleyes:

But I know for a fact that its hundreds of ways to make money, and hundreds more can be created by making them your own. You just have to tke action and do it.

Of course, there are many ways to make money, both online and offline, but unfortunately the gurus seem to have done a superb job in brainwashing newbies to think otherwise. I feel that there are many who are limiting themselves unnecessarily in this area, and this ultimately affects their ability to succeed in IM, because there is no such thing as a one-size fits all approach in IM, and people may just be banging their heads against the wall with a particular method that yields them very little or no results (when there could be some other method out there which suits them better).

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

Of course, there are many ways to make money, both online and offline, but unfortunately the gurus seem to have done a superb job in brainwashing newbies to think otherwise. I feel that there are many who are limiting themselves unnecessarily in this area, and this ultimately affects their ability to succeed in IM, because there is no such thing as a one-size fits all approach in IM, and people may just be banging their head against the wall with a particular method that yields them no or very little results (when there could be some other method out there which suits them better).

I couldn't have said it better myself. Even one idea could draw 100 ways to do it with the correct mindset, and fortunately it's more than just one method. Even the method I stated in this thread can be tweaked in many ways

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

I couldn't have said it better myself. Even one idea could draw 100 ways to do it with the correct mindset, and fortunately it's more than just one method. Even the method I stated in this thread can be tweaked in many ways

This is true, so many newbies tend to be overly rigid in implementing a system or idea, and while I know that it's been repeatedly preached in here that systems are made to be followed to the letter, sometimes a little tweak or adjustment could result in a huge breakthrough. It's really not easy to teach how to do this though, and it pretty much boils down to the creativity and initiative of the person implementing it.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by paulie888

This is true, so many newbies tend to be overly rigid in implementing a system or idea, and while I know that it's been repeatedly preached in here that systems are made to be followed to the letter, sometimes a little tweak or adjustment could result in a huge breakthrough. It's really not easy to teach how to do this though, and it pretty much boils down to the creativity and initiative of the person implementing it.

Lol I actually never paid attention that closely if anyone said to follow a system exactly how it says, and for good reason.

I actually feel that a lot of rules are meant to be broken to an extent, or at least bent a bit to suit your needs as long as there aren't any major risks to the end result, such as BH methods. Besides, imagine how many people are actually following the exact method step by step? That's how systems get saturated if you ask me

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14 years ago

I like the idea of making a donation - it's a no pressure way and more of an offer than a sale. I will test this out because i'm still not sure of how many people donate unless they really like the person or feel some type of connection to them like say Joe Vitale.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by internetsweetie

I like the idea of making a donation - it's a no pressure way and more of an offer than a sale. I will test this out because i'm still not sure of how many people donate unless they really like the person or feel some type of connection to them like say Joe Vitale.

My question is, could using a backlink service work to help with traffic?

Hi NetSweetie, yes using a backlink service to build backlinks on your site should help raise it's PR, and in turn bring in some more traffic as long as they are relevant backlinks to the content on your site.

Backlinking is a particular subject I don't know enough of to teach others just yet, but I know how it should be done and if anyone else can help in that area feel free to correct me on the advice I gave above if im mistaken.

I'll be sure to study some of the pdf files I have on the subject to learn a bit more myself on that topic though to add to the list of other skills im building to help others out.

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Drumming

14 years ago

Hi there,

I have been fascinated with the idea of making some money from the Internet for a long time.

Being a newbie that I am, I need some kind advice on this: Is it a good idea to sell animated ebooks? I have yet to come across any and am thinking perhaps this would be a refreshing approach?

Thanks in advance for any advice. Cheers!

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Drumming

Hi there,

I have been fascinated with the idea of making some money from the Internet for a long time.

Being a newbie that I am, I need some kind advice on this: Is it a good idea to sell animated ebooks? I have yet to come across any and am thinking perhaps this would be a refreshing approach?

Thanks in advance for any advice. Cheers!

As long as you find a big enough audience, people will buy ANYTHING.... im serious...

My advice to you is to learn fundamentals... Keyword research is key and you won't see good traffic or targeted traffic until you do... The good thing is you can learn a lot just by searching around the forum for free

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REHughes

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

7. Here Is Where It changes up: Offer The pdf As A Free Download For People Who Donate To Your Site. Say Something Along the Lines: "Buy Me Lunch For The Day And I'll Provide You With My $100 Value Book Only Sold To 25 Readers: ("Insert Title Here") As A Token Of My Appreciation."

B. Hunter

And you still haven't answered this question that was asked from the beginning.
Are you just going to mislead your customer here, or are you planning to create enough pdf's to put on this site so that you ACTUALLY only SELL 25 of each?
This is deceptive marketing at it's very best.
This is the same practice that is catching so much heat all over this forum right now from misleading headlines.
And your #'s do not match up.
First you say an easy $2000. Then in another post you say $5 -$10 per pdf.
Then you say 10 sites each making $10.
First you say it brings you about $3000 a month, then you say $500-$3000 a month.
And do you honestly think anyone with any sense will believe you can drive 22k visitors to one site, let alone 10 or more?
Your figures are ridiculous!
If you put the techniques together right you might make a small profit, but nothing like you are talking about.
Sure, you got a lot of newbies pumped up and saying "great post" and "I'm gonna try this" and stuff, but it won't happen. You've not presented anything solid here. You've bounced all over the map in post after post.
Sorry, man, but that's just the truth!

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by REHughes

And you still haven't answered this question that was asked from the beginning.
Are you just going to mislead your customer here, or are you planning to create enough pdf's to put on this site so that you ACTUALLY only SELL 25 of each?
This is deceptive marketing at it's very best.
This is the same practice that is catching so much heat all over this forum right now from misleading headlines.
And your #'s do not match up.
First you say an easy $2000. Then in another post you say $5 -$10 per pdf.
Then you say 10 sites each making $10.
First you say it brings you about $3000 a month, then you say $500-$3000 a month.
And do you honestly think anyone with any sense will believe you can drive 22k visitors to one site, let alone 10 or more?
Your figures are ridiculous!
If you put the techniques together right you might make a small profit, but nothing like you are talking about.
Sure, you got a lot of newbies pumped up and saying "great post" and "I'm gonna try this" and stuff, but it won't happen. You've not presented anything solid here. You've bounced all over the map in post after post.
Sorry, man, but that's just the truth!

Ahh im guessing you must be under the impression that I use this for 1 site, and for one site only. Now that doesn't sound very smart does it? :rolleyes:

Well let me answer each part of your dispute:
1. I gave an example of what could be said, and saying it was only SOLD to 25 readers makes the visitor believe it is worth a bit more value than it is, and don't mostly all marketers do the same with the whole "$880 value" products that they sell for a fraction of their claimed price? Again this is method is supposed to be used for a donate-sale, not an actual sale, which removes a bit of pressure to visitors.

And you only need to create 1 per site, and as long as the person who buys it is satisfied at the content, who really cares what you say? But If you feel guilty though just do what your pitch says

2. If you sold your ebook this way for $10 each, how many do you need to make $1,000 which the thread states? 100 right? Now if you are a beginner at stuff like this it might be difficult to get 100 sales in a month like this with only 1 site, but experienced marketers can just as easily get 200 or more sales per month this way. And even this can be broken up into multiple sites for 10 sites making 10 sales per month. :rolleyes:

I also say that I recommend doing what I do as most people can afford $5-$10. Some of my sites bring in around $500 per month(50 sales), while others bring in around $3,000(300 sales). Again can't believe you assumed i only have one site like this :confused:

Also if you break it down, 22k visitors equals 733-734 visitors per day. With proper SEO, thats not a very difficult number to accomplish for good sites, well not for me at least. I've seen sites with over 80k visitors per month so compared to that, this is a cake walk.

And although I cant recall when I mentioned that number since I don't usually look at my past posts and pull out a magic general reply, don't you think you could drive 1,000 visitors to 10 seperate sites within a month? With just a 1% conversion you still have your 100 sales, and I refuse to allow you to say that getting 1,000 visitors per month is difficult, nor getting 1% conversion. That's pretty outrageous to me, and try making 22 sites like that and you still have 22k visitors in total.

And lastly, if you doubt it would work, you obviously haven't tried to do it. You could sell salt to a snail with the correct approach and audience, so just find 100 snails and you got yourself $1000. 200 sales= $2,000 and etc.

Nice Try though but in order to prove me wrong i would need to see proof it fails for you, and even that may just be for you.

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ada

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhunter1212

Well I've been a member of the warrior forum for quite some time now and its helped me out so much in internet marketing, so I feel I should share a helpful tip to people starting out, or even experienced marketers bring in an extra 4 figures Easily.

So there you have it. this is what I do when I either need some extra cash fast, or just want to increase profits on one of my sites. So what are you waiting for? You have no excuse to not be making cash at this moment so get started now researching/writing!

Hmm, I Could Have Probably Offered This As A Product to sell, but ive already hit submit so enjoy! :p

B. Hunter

This was a very interesting and informative tip. I luv the fact that this could have been sold, but you had already hit the submit. So HAHAHA!!! LOL, just kidding.

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John Banks

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ada

This was a very interesting and informative tip. I luv the fact that this could have been sold, but you had already hit the submit. So HAHAHA!!! LOL, just kidding.

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Haha yea just a little dry humor there... And welcome to the forum by the way make sure to learn and take action afterwards

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Chris The Traffic Blogger

14 years ago

If it is a blog, be sure to write content at least once a week and go for guest posts on other blogs as well.

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John Banks 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris The Traffic Blogger

If it is a blog, be sure to write content at least once a week and go for guest posts on other blogs as well.

Good Tip Chris, although I actually recommend writing content 3-5 times per week to rank faster as google prioritizes sites that are quite active. SEO wise it also helps to rank for keywords a bit quicker as well
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