What Income Can I Expect From Buying a $15,000 Website?

14 years ago

My thoughts on what you should do are expressed at the end of this clip from Vegas Vacation.

But, seriously, I would expect you to lose money in most cases unless there is solid proof of earnings, proof of a solid business plan (ie not just 'blogging' or 'Adsense'), proof of solid, sustainable, traffic and so forth. Most people lose big on this kind of purchase.

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halfpoint

14 years ago

Sites typically sell for 8-12x monthly income so you should expect at least $1250/month or there abouts if you were to spend 10k and obviously more if you were going to spend more.

If I was going to spend this much on a website, though, I would want at least 4-5 months of traffic/earnings proof that could be verified.

Additionally, I would also want to arrange to make a deposit and then have my Adsense/affiliate/whatever way it's being monetized code placed on the website for 1-2 weeks as further insurance that the income was real before then sending over the rest of the payment.

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tjk1058

14 years ago

That's what I was thinking but wasn't sure as most of the one's on flippa that I saw were selling for extreme amounts over what their monthly earnings showed.

I just hate to get ripped off. That's why I'm asking anyone's advise on some good places to buy a web site at?

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Originally Posted by Pat Jackson

Sites typically sell for 8-12x monthly income so you should expect at least $1250/month or there abouts if you were to spend 10k and obviously more if you were going to spend more.

If I was going to spend this much on a website, though, I would want at least 4-5 months of traffic/earnings proof that could be verified.

Additionally, I would also want to arrange to make a deposit and then have my Adsense/affiliate/whatever way it's being monetized code placed on the website for 1-2 weeks as further insurance that the income was real before then sending over the rest of the payment.

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stevemarino 14 years ago

Originally Posted by tjk1058

That's what I was thinking but wasn't sure as most of the one's on flippa that I saw were selling for extreme amounts over what their monthly earnings showed.

Oh my, I've seen a lot of scams at flippa. In fact I've seen a lot of scams by the same person at flippa. Here's an interesting website about internet scams (and a lot concerning flippa) - it's not my site so I'm not trying to get a plug.

idontgiveascam.com

Seriously, be very careful.
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Dan C. Rinnert 14 years ago

I have a website that earns maybe $1 a month in AdSense. I'll be happy to sell it to you for $15,000.

From that sale, I can expect an income of $14,540.

You can expect an income of $12 per year. I'll even give you a 3-year guarantee on that. If you don't make at least $12 a year, I'll pay the difference.

Deal?
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suxes2005 14 years ago

I guess yuo must look well and also buy a site
with $1200 or more affiliate income for 5 months
and steady traffic

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Black Hat Cat

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by londonwarrior

If this was true then I'd be buying them. No-one in their right mind would sell a website this cheaply.

Plenty of people sell sites this cheaply. And you're right, they aren't in their right mind.

I would say that any selling that cheaply are most likely a scam. If I was making that amount I would want 4 years earnings minimum.

Some are. Others are selling sites for 4-8 times monthly earnings because the sites aren't even 4-8 months old. Only a fool is going to pay 4 times yearly earnings for a 3 month old site.

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tjk1058

14 years ago

That's the problem with most web sites for sale on flippa... they are either too new or the seller state potential profits.

I can't see shelling out anything over 12 months earnings for a new or potential web site. And I really can't see why anyone would want to sell a site that is making steady profits anyway unless they really need the cash now instead of the future.

That is why I'm not sure I can ever find a ready built site that I can trust to buy. Like a lot of people hear have stated maybe I should just have someone build a site for me, have outsources produce content and backlinks to get it going.

TedK

Originally Posted by londonwarrior

So where can I find these people? I want to buy their sites.

You are right that earnings multiple would depend on how long the site had been earning money. I sold an internet business that had 4 years of solid earnings, so I was referring to something similar. I would never ask that much for a 3-month old site.

It all comes down to reaching a price between buyer and seller, and as website sales are still a fairly new market, prices are all over the place. It's also easy for people to get scammed because so many don't do any due dilligence at all.

Never mind all that, I want to know where to buy these cheap sites. LOL. I'm serious.

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matt5409

14 years ago

how many miles can i expect to cover in a $15k car?

depends how much time you spend driving it

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tpw

14 years ago

The only thing you are every guaranteed when you buy a website is yearly domain registration fees and web hosting costs.

Depending on how you shop, that could by roughly $75 per year outbound.

As far as incoming revenues, you can expect $0 per year.

You can pray for $1250 per month...

Pray hard that the seller did not fabricate the earnings statements.

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sbucciarel

Banned 14 years ago

Before spending that kind of cash on a website, the seller should be able to provide proof of income. Be careful that it isn't fake proof. Check traffic referrals as well. You'll want to know where that traffic is coming from. Some sellers "buy" cheap, useless traffic to make it look like their site has traffic.

Do the transaction through escrow.com to protect yourself also, but doing a lot of research on a site before paying that kind of money is wise.

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Sandor Verebi 14 years ago

Hi tjk1058,

Many useful advice above.

The absence of closer information, optimistically I would say $500. My pessimistic expectation would be $0.00.

Don't buy a pig in a poke. Suzanne gave wise advice. Follow that.

Many successes,

Sandor
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seobro

14 years ago

It is my guess that you want the truth, so I can give it to you. Well, you can expect zero. Also, that the person who sold it to you will stop acting nice. He will yell and scream. Mostly, profanity at you.

Consider this a very valuable lesson, but a very expensive one.

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RobusCop 14 years ago

My advice.

Do some keyword research and find demand for a "Physical product" with low competition.

Not easy but possible.

Test your market with a cheap website and some PPC advertising.

See if you can sell the product "Regularly" and make a profit over the wholesale price of the product and your advertising expense.

If the answer is yes, spend $10,000 on stock and spend the rest getting your own website up to scratch and more PPC.
If you want to be hands free, keep some back for a member of staff to process the orders and send out the product for you.

It could all be run from a spare room in your house and has more chance of making a long term business.
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cooler1

14 years ago

You have to take extreme caution or you could end up buying a turkey and losing a lot of your savings. Fortunatly ive only bought site's under $100 so far so haven't blown a lot.

Laptopforfree.net was sold for $3,500 on Flippa recently and it had a $526 average monthly income. The seller is a Warrior who seems like the real deal so it's certainly possible to get a good earning site for that much.

I notice a lot of website's on Flippa are selling Facebook likes. They say it's an automated business with very little work involved, just processing payments, etc.. but probably aren't revealing the whole picture. Has anyone here had any experience running such a site?

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tj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tjk1058

I'm thinking about buying an established web site (not one in particular yet) around the $10-15,000 range.

What kind of monthly income could I expect for this price range? Around $1000-$2000 per month?

And does anyone have a good place to purchase these other then flippa as the one's I have seen so far seem to be priced pretty high for what they earn monthly.

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rody

14 years ago

It's better to buy lots of small sites that make like $100 a month then one big site that may not do well. Never put all your eggs in one basket

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Meharis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by tjk1058

I'm thinking about buying an established web site (not one in particular yet) around the $10-15,000 range.
What kind of monthly income could I expect for this price range? Around $1000-$2000 per month?
And does anyone have a good place to purchase these other then flippa as the one's I have seen so far seem to be priced pretty high for what they earn monthly.
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TedK

That will be the fastest way of getting a $15000.00 headache !!
Make your own "Shining Object"
For that kind of money you can outsource 40 Wordpress sites.
If each one make $50.00/month, you'll be collecting $2000.00.
Not to mention that if you work your sites to produce $100.00/month
(or more), you can sell each one up to 20 times the monthly income.
I believe the risk you will be taking will very low. Think about it.

Meharis

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Meharis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by londonwarrior

Have you actually done this? This kind of 'advice' is bandied about a lot but for over 99% of people this just won't work. It just isn't that easy to make money online. So you're saying I just outsource some work and in a few weeks I'll be making $2,000/month. Yeah right. For most people it is hard enough to get one site making $50/month, let alone get 40 making that amount each.

Google is also clamping down on these small niche sites and most will disappear in the next year or two. Matt Cutts made a comment to that effect very recently. If you want to build a sustainable business, then you need to be thinking of building larger, authority sites.

And if you are serious about this you should be thinking of building a business, not building websites. A website isn't a business. There is much more to it than that.

Yes!! I did it with 22 of them. This is what I do for living.
I did not say how many weeks. you did...
I can careless about what Google does. Including Adsense. My sites
have Original Content. Therefore they will never disappear.
I don't need Google to get traffic, I get it from Free traffic. Yes free traffic...
Buying Domains, building good sites and reselling them and keeping some of
them is a business.
Why do you think there's people coming back to purchase more sites ?
Next time, before jumping into conclusions, you could try doing your own
home work -research- and presenting something better in order to criticize.
Meharis

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Meharis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by londonwarrior

Apologies for the 'weeks' comment. But everything else I said is true. This doesn't work for 99% of people. You are in the 1%. The OP wants to buy one site, so I doubt he knows enough about outsourcing and building sites to get into this.

I'm not having a go at you here, but are you seriously saying that if you build 40 sites, they will make an average of $50 each (within some time frame). I know some very successful marketers and even they don't have such a high succes rate. To get 40 good sites you'd probably need to build 100+, as many would fail to make it.

So how long would it take you to get from $0 to $2,000 per month starting from scratch? And how many hours would you work to produce those results? And how many hours per week would you work to keep the income at that level?

I just kept six sites to myself. They are almost six months old and making
62, $75, 81, 93, 104 and 146 respectively. None of them cost me more than
$ 280 each, domain included.
Having a Very Good Domain is the key to be successful. <= Read it again...Yeah

At the beginning I worked at least eight hours per day. Now, I just add
content about every ten days. I've developed my own system to check
them daily, add content and checking the Alexa rankings and other procedures.
Next, I'll be building an other twenty and when the present six are one year
old, I'll be selling them for a nice profit.
Obviously that require dedication, but that's the only way I know how to do it.
Some of my colleagues make a lot more than I do, but that's something they're
refusing to do any mentioning in that regard.
Meharis

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Black Hat Cat

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by londonwarrior

I agree that having a good domain helps you rank well. That's if you mean having a domain such as redwidgets.com for a red widgets website. But this is specifically what Matt Cutts said would not work so well in future. He said these domain names have too much weight in the ranking algorithm. So so we can all assume that they will have less weight very soon. That means that these little sites won't rank so easily in future.

Having less weight doesn't mean they will have no weight. By the way, you know what they say about "assuming", don't you?

Google has already announced this, so it is guaranteed to happen sometime soon.

Bwaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha........

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Meharis

14 years ago

Originally Posted by londonwarrior

Matt Cutts made a comment to that effect very recently. If you want to build a sustainable business, then you need to be thinking of building larger, authority sites.

"Matt Cutts and the google quality guidelines both say the use of affiliate links with original content IS OK. They have no problems with it - and encourage quality original content sites"

See what I meant about I don't care what Google does ?
No hard feelings from me.

Meharis

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