1 Hour Of Work Made Me $628.94 So Far....

Takuya Hikichi

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

in just over 6 weeks $628.94 was been made off of content that I thought was dead.

This is great. It just shows you powerful blogging is.

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NickTaylor 13 years ago

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Shrinivas

16 years ago

Hi,

Congrats for this success. I have a question about what you just said.

I set the blogs up with a substantial ping list and started adding the content to the blogs at a clip of about 3 pages a day, which were automatically pinged, etc.

Does this eman you chose "Write Page" instead of "Write Post" when you published the article?

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

No, they were all posts

Originally Posted by Shrinivas

Hi,

Congrats for this success. I have a question about what you just said.

Does this eman you chose "Write Page" instead of "Write Post" when you published the article?

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Ebbi

16 years ago

Good stuff Jeremy!

Are you using the same pen name on your blog
and EZA? Is your about me page with the same
name?

That might help Google to figure out that this is
the same person posting the content.

I'm just trying to figure out why Google hasn't
penalized your blog.

Ebbi

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

From the way everything is playing out, it appears that you only get penalized if you like content to the same content, if that makes sense?

No, I'm not using the same pen name, but my rankings continue to increase and the number of visitors I get is increasing as well.

The moral of the story here is, use your content as many ways as possible

The thing is, even if they did penalize my blog, it would not have made a difference to me really. It was just an "experiment" that went right.

Originally Posted by Ebbi

Good stuff Jeremy!

Are you using the same pen name on your blog
and EZA? Is your about me page with the same
name?

That might help Google to figure out that this is
the same person posting the content.

I'm just trying to figure out why Google hasn't
penalized your blog.

Ebbi

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Michael Taylor

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Ebbi

I'm just trying to figure out why Google hasn't
penalized your blog.

Because duplicate content is a myth.

Penalties are applied to duplicate content within the same site. Duplicate content shared between different sites are fine.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

This is exactly what I'm finding out...with the amount of content that I have out there that I can "repurpose" I have a feeling that the next couple of months are going to be fantastic!

Originally Posted by Michael Taylor

Because duplicate content is a myth.

Penalties are applied to duplicate content within the same site. Duplicate content shared between different sites are fine.

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rainyclayday

16 years ago

I tried a similar experiment a while back but it was on a regular site and not a blog. I loaded it up with old content, lots of pages, and only a few pages of new. I spent very little time setting it up, just an afternoon, and that site brings in quite a lot of traffic now.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Try doing the same thing now on a blog with posts that are pinged and RSS.

Originally Posted by rainyclayday

I tried a similar experiment a while back but it was on a regular site and not a blog. I loaded it up with old content, lots of pages, and only a few pages of new. I spent very little time setting it up, just an afternoon, and that site brings in quite a lot of traffic now.

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rainyclayday 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Try doing the same thing now on a blog with posts that are pinged and RSS.

I think I will!
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SeanIM

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Taylor

Because duplicate content is a myth.

Penalties are applied to duplicate content within the same site. Duplicate content shared between different sites are fine.

I like how my good friend Howie puts it...he doesn't listen to the duplicate content drivel out there, he listens to what his bank Chase has to say about it, and apparently Chase has no problems with duplicate content.

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zerofill 16 years ago

Jeremy and I have both been doing a lot of testing because...I like to break things and fix them and make them better LOL...

Just like Michael Taylor said:

Penalties are applied to duplicate content within the same site. Duplicate content shared between different sites are fine.

Absolutely correct...
I think it often confuses people because they think using the same info more than once on the entire internet gives them a duplicate content penalty hehe...If that were the case the internet as a whole would be about 3/4 smaller right now hehe...

I do see from testing that linking the same content to the same content via take for instance a Squidoo page that has the same exact article on it that I have on a blog somewhere. Only one will get the greatest benefit out of it. Because Google does try and not show the same content in their results...however that same article or content may rank higher on another page for a different keyword phrase...So one outranks one for one phrase and the other outranks the other for another phrase. Yet they are the same exact content...

Moral of the story...
Don't waste all those articles and different types of content you have created on just EZA and a few other article directories...

Bang it out as content on sites of your own as well as freebie blogs, hubpages, squidoo, etc...

Fear not the duplicate content penalty unless you are linking to the same content on the same site. Plus I still recommend not to overdo linking to the same content from the same content on different sites as well. Do that sparingly...

However blast the rest of your content out on various sites over time...
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I love this answerrrrrr..

great
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by SeanIM

I like how my good friend Howie puts it...he doesn't listen to the duplicate content drivel out there, he listens to what his bank Chase has to say about it, and apparently Chase has no problems with duplicate content.

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I love this answerr..

Great

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Chris Lockwood

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Ebbi

I'm just trying to figure out why Google hasn't
penalized your blog.

Because all this talk of penalties for that sort of things is not true. If it were, a lot of the reason to use sites like EZA would be gone.

I can easily find many copies of the same article in Google- if they were being penalized, why are so many ranking highly?

Not that it really matters, but was that income from affiliate commissions, ad clicks, your products, or all the above?

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

The income was strictly from affiliate sales and was amassed over about a month long period so, definitely not a bank buster, but it is another source of income that is coming in.

Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood

Because all this talk of penalties for that sort of things is not true. If it were, a lot of the reason to use sites like EZA would be gone.

I can easily find many copies of the same article in Google- if they were being penalized, why are so many ranking highly?

Not that it really matters, but was that income from affiliate commissions, ad clicks, your products, or all the above?

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countonuspr 16 years ago

That is awesome! You can use that content over and over and over again in multiple ways to get the best results. If it were dead than when you put the title of an article into Google than only one result would come up. I have press releases and articles that have over 50 results or more come up at once! Way to go!
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SweetMoney

16 years ago

Does anyone have a good resource that shows a person from start to finish, how to set up a blog and properly optimize it as disussed in this forum and many other places online? I work SEO in other forms of online marketing but have not looked into this blog stuff very much thus far. I have been seeing so much about it lately, I am getting more and more interested. Thanks.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Search for Caroline Middlebrook I think...If I remember correctly she had a free guide that showed installation and set up from beginning to end. Also, look for Sagar Mehta - Hope I spelled that right

Originally Posted by SweetMoney

Does anyone have a good resource that shows a person from start to finish, how to set up a blog and properly optimize it as disussed in this forum and many other places online? I work SEO in other forms of online marketing but have not looked into this blog stuff very much thus far. I have been seeing so much about it lately, I am getting more and more interested. Thanks.

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SweetMoney

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Search for Caroline Middlebrook I think...If I remember correctly she had a free guide that showed installation and set up from beginning to end. Also, look for Sagar Mehta - Hope I spelled that right

Thank you, Jeremy, appreciate it!

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Jesus Perez

16 years ago

I can vouch for this strategy as well. Good stuff, Jeremy. I gotta catch up on your Bootcamp...it's been busy this month.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Months ago, I was like many other people here - scared to death of Duplicate content and all the other "no nos" that everyone was talking about. So, I was publishing all of my content to EZA and was happy with the results, because I was getting paid

After reading some stuff here about the duplicate content issue, I set up 2 Wordpress blogs on 2 different niches that I had a ass ton of content published to EZA on.

I set the blogs up with a substantial ping list and started adding the content to the blogs at a clip of about 3 pages a day, which were automatically pinged, etc.

I set up my RSS feed and submitted it to feedagg and a couple others.

Before I knew it I started getting traffic to my blogs based on the same exact content that had been published at EZA for over 6 months. Currently, we are getting almost 100 visitors a day to each blog and in just over 6 weeks $628.94 was been made off of content that I thought was dead.

I want to make it clear, I did not spin/alter the content at all. Just posted it and then left it alone with the exception of the RSS feed. I'm now ranking fairly well for several keywords and I can't see the traffic or ranking really going anywhere as I have other old content to post as well

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Keith Kogane

16 years ago

Kickass post. Should open a few eyebrows here as to what's possible if you just go and DO something.

Kudos to you, my friend.

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Chiayee

16 years ago

Hey Jeremy: Just curious what niche is your site?

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

Usually I'm pretty transparent with this kind of stuff, but this time I would rather not say lol

I've given away a couple of my niches over the past 30 days to a couple hundred people and working harder than ever to stay ahead

Originally Posted by Chiayee

Hey Jeremy: Just curious what niche is your site?
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tommygadget

16 years ago

Hey Jeremy,

Wonder if you were referring to my post where I created 10 identical weight loss blogs to test out the dupe content theory? Yep, you guessed it, no penalty I could see. That's why I'm spitting out blog after blog in my best niches. OOPS, let one out of the bag...

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Charann Miller

16 years ago

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Neil S

16 years ago

This is very interesting, I will have to give it a try.

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nikhilg

16 years ago

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Lots of people in this forum seem to have made money using wordpress blogs. This is something that i should look into and try out.

You might want to look at SEO Press by Brian Johnson. It is about using wordpress for traffic and a lot of people have said many good things about it.

All the best

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prodozoan

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

After reading some stuff here about the duplicate content issue, I set up 2 Wordpress blogs on 2 different niches that I had a ass ton of content published to EZA on.

I set the blogs up with a substantial ping list and started adding the content to the blogs at a clip of about 3 pages a day, which were automatically pinged, etc.

Jeremy,

Do you have the blog hosted in wordpress or your own domain ?

Ajith

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traces2757

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

After reading some stuff here about the duplicate content issue, I set up 2 Wordpress blogs on 2 different niches that I had a ass ton of content published to EZA on.

That's very, very good to know. I'm going to keep it in mind when I launch my new blogs.

But, I'm curious about something. How much is an ass ton, exactly?

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NewbiesDiary 16 years ago

Originally Posted by traces2757

That's very, very good to know. I'm going to keep it in mind when I launch my new blogs.

But, I'm curious about something. How much is an ass ton, exactly?

Way more than a fly sh!t!
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16 years ago

Just wondering, how you monetized your blog?

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wooosta 16 years ago

wow if i could make anywhere near that profit.......

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sequincer

16 years ago

628$ is fairly huge sum of money,and you said that you received 100 visitors/day,you add positioning must be tremendous to make that kind of money with that kind of traffic.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Not really if you think about it. The product that I'm promoting on the site converts at about 1:40 on a good day and 1:60 ON A bad day. Figure in the average of a $30 sale and the math makes sense

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628$ is fairly huge sum of money,and you said that you received 100 visitors/day,you add positioning must be tremendous to make that kind of money with that kind of traffic.

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James Schramko

16 years ago

I've been saying this for so long now.Post valuable content to blogs first.

I would love to see Steven W post all his articles to some blogs with proper set-up and watch the results from that....

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by James Schramko

I've been saying this for so long now.Post valuable content to blogs first.

I would love to see Steven W post all his articles to some blogs with proper set-up and watch the results from that....

Read my post above.

duh!

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16 years ago

When you say proper setup u mean ping and rss? I'm assuming here that you promote your rss rather well?

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I would love to see Steven W post all his articles to some blogs with proper set-up and watch the results from that....

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by James Schramko

I've been saying this for so long now.Post valuable content to blogs first.

I would love to see Steven W post all his articles to some blogs with proper set-up and watch the results from that....

I want to quote this, because I have seen James mention this as one of the biggest mistakes that article marketers make numerous times now. Thanks for this fantastic advice.

EDIT - And I have said that the duplicate content rule only applies to content under the same domain. People always seem to be confused about this. It is your content, you can do what you want with it. Google does not own you or your business.

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AbdulAzim

16 years ago

Originally Posted by qkz283

EDIT - And I have said that the duplicate content rule only applies to content under the same domain. People always seem to be confused about this. It is your content, you can do what you want with it. Google does not own you or your business.

Cool!Awesome words.Thanks

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Yogini

16 years ago

Jeremy,

Great idea. You aren't linking back to the ezinearticles are you within the blog? I wasn't sure about that part.

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

Nope, the only links going off the page, will get me paid

Originally Posted by Yogini

Jeremy,

Great idea. You aren't linking back to the ezinearticles are you within the blog? I wasn't sure about that part.

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Kelly Verge

16 years ago

Kind of makes one wonder...

What about using nothing but others' content from EZA (leaving the bios intact)? Would the traffic leak from the bios be significant?

I guess that just depends on the offer.

Might just have to play with this.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

Kind of makes one wonder...

What about using nothing but others' content from EZA (leaving the bios intact)? Would the traffic leak from the bios be significant?

I guess that just depends on the offer.

Might just have to play with this.

Try it with nice "in your face" CPA banners or a lightbox name capture for list building.... I did it last week and I am getting 100 uniques a day this week for a new blog.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Didn't even think about CPA - Going to be a busy day for me

Originally Posted by James Schramko

Try it with nice "in your face" CPA banners or a lightbox name capture for list building.... I did it last week and I am getting 100 uniques a day this week for a new blog.

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Jesus Perez 16 years ago

Are you earning the money via Adsense or Affiliate sales?

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Didn't even think about CPA - Going to be a busy day for me
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

Kind of makes one wonder...

What about using nothing but others' content from EZA (leaving the bios intact)? Would the traffic leak from the bios be significant?

Kelly, I believe EZA has a limit to how many of their articles you can use. I seem to remember that number is 25, but you'd have to check...

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16 years ago

Hey Jeremy. Really good post.

So are you buying new domains and posting all this on a wordpress blog or are you using a blog site like blogger for it without your own domain?

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

I put this first one on my own domain, but I'm thinking of testing this on sites like blogger. As a matter of fact, I think I am going to grab someone from a freelance site and have that done today

Originally Posted by Michael Ashbourne

Hey Jeremy. Really good post.

So are you buying new domains and posting all this on a wordpress blog or are you using a blog site like blogger for it without your own domain?

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Steven Wagenheim 16 years ago

Jeremy, that is so funny because I FINALLY started doing the same thing
with one of my blogs. I don't know why I waited so long to put those
articles that I had written up on it (stupid, stupid, stupid)

Yesterday, I can't believe how many visitors I had...and in a freaking
oversaturated niche no less.

I was told a long time ago to build my own VRE and I never listened.

What was that S word again?

Never again. I've learned my lesson.
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Yogini

16 years ago

Jeremy,

Do you put any name at all after the articles (you said you don't use pen name from eza)? Or do you just post them as-is and link to affil product?

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

I just post as is without the resource box, because these are my own articles.....

I don't leave the links in tact for 2 reasons.

1. I don't want to add another step for the visitor to make a purchase
2. I don't want to bleed any juice from my page

If you were going to use someone elses articles you would have to include the resource box, of course. However, I'm going to have a look at a couple of plugins that pull youtube videos and other content from different places on the web to add to my own content and see where it goes

Originally Posted by Yogini

Jeremy,

Do you put any name at all after the articles (you said you don't use pen name from eza)? Or do you just post them as-is and link to affil product?

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

I actually have that plugin. The only thing I'm trying to avoid is having other peoples resource boxes on my sites so, right now I am sticking to niches that I already have a lot of content for. Although, I may use the plugin in conjunction with CPA and Adsense offers.

Originally Posted by Steve Porcaro

Jeremy great post, I have been doing the same for a few days now and I think what you are looking for below is called caffeinated content....pulls youtube video, yahoo answers, and articles

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magentawave

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I actually have that plugin. The only thing I'm trying to avoid is having other peoples resource boxes on my sites so, right now I am sticking to niches that I already have a lot of content for. Although, I may use the plugin in conjunction with CPA and Adsense offers.

A couple more questions please...

1) But can't you edit the content that Caffeinated Content brings you and remove the resource boxes, etc.?

2) And if you do remove those resource boxes (or anything else), aren't you running into copyright issues by putting someone elses content on your sites without their permission?

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve Porcaro

Jeremy great post, I have been doing the same for a few days now and I think what you are looking for below is called caffeinated content....pulls youtube video, yahoo answers, and articles

Regarding using Caffeinated Content to fetch content for our sites...

I would like to control when the content Caffeinated Content is posted on my site. So instead of having millions of pages of instant content. I would like to be able to gather the content it sends me and then set it up to post automatically for days or weeks in the future. I know I can do with WP, but can I do that with Caffeinated Content?

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Mrs S

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

I just post as is without the resource box, because these are my own articles.....

I don't leave the links in tact for 2 reasons.

1. I don't want to add another step for the visitor to make a purchase
2. I don't want to bleed any juice from my page

If you were going to use someone elses articles you would have to include the resource box, of course. However, I'm going to have a look at a couple of plugins that pull youtube videos and other content from different places on the web to add to my own content and see where it goes

An interesting point as bizarrely I started a similar test myself a few days back - posting my eza articles to a wordpress.com blog. I was doing it to feed backlinks to my brand new niche blog though so I left the resource box intact.

I might try it your way for one of my niches instead...

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Try a bunch of variations, what's the worst that can happen?

I actually havn't had the time to get into this quite as much as I would like, but I was alerted to another thread started by TommyGadget that pretty much backs up what I said here.

Originally Posted by Mrs S

An interesting point as bizarrely I started a similar test myself a few days back - posting my eza articles to a wordpress.com blog. I was doing it to feed backlinks to my brand new niche blog though so I left the resource box intact.

I might try it your way for one of my niches instead...

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16 years ago

Wow I am so glad someone posted on this.

Wahoo!

I am off to publish all that stuff I wrote for EZA....

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Yogini

16 years ago

Jeremy,

Thanks this is a great idea. I have a lot of articles collecting dust at eza. Some do well in search engines and some die out totally so hopefully this will revive the dead ones, especially since I can theme them better via a blog.

Also your bootcamp ideas with rss will come in handy.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Months ago, I was like many other people here - scared to death of Duplicate content and all the other "no nos" that everyone was talking about. So, I was publishing all of my content to EZA and was happy with the results, because I was getting paid

After reading some stuff here about the duplicate content issue, I set up 2 Wordpress blogs on 2 different niches that I had a ass ton of content published to EZA on.

I set the blogs up with a substantial ping list and started adding the content to the blogs at a clip of about 3 pages a day, which were automatically pinged, etc.

I set up my RSS feed and submitted it to feedagg and a couple others.

Before I knew it I started getting traffic to my blogs based on the same exact content that had been published at EZA for over 6 months. Currently, we are getting almost 100 visitors a day to each blog and in just over 6 weeks $628.94 was been made off of content that I thought was dead.

I want to make it clear, I did not spin/alter the content at all. Just posted it and then left it alone with the exception of the RSS feed. I'm now ranking fairly well for several keywords and I can't see the traffic or ranking really going anywhere as I have other old content to post as well

Yup, duplicate content is a myth. It only applies when the duplicate content is submitted under the same website and/or domain.

I believe this was also tested and proven in another thread.

Simply go by this rule of thumb, don't believe in a any of the "no nos" until you have proven them to be a "no no" yourself.

Nice results Jeremy and good job on dispelling the myth.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Yeah, I remember TomG had a thread about this, I never say the "outcome" though.

I'm setting a couple of other sites up today and tomorrow and will report whether or not I have similar results or not with the new sites.

Originally Posted by Daniel Molano

Yup, duplicate content is a myth. It only applies when the duplicate content is submitted under the same website and/or domain.

I believe this was also tested and proven in another thread.

Simply go by this rule of thumb, don't believe in a any of the "no nos" until you have proven them to be a "no no" yourself.

Nice results Jeremy and good job on dispelling the myth.

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tommygadget

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Yeah, I remember TomG had a thread about this, I never say the "outcome" though.

I'm setting a couple of other sites up today and tomorrow and will report whether or not I have similar results or not with the new sites.

Yes, yes, I updated the thread, but can't find it

I updated my blog and the results are in. Here's a quick link: 5000 Dollars In 45 Days - My IM Voyage Blog Archive Duplicate Content Penalty Debunked

TomG.

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Neil S

16 years ago

Hey Jeremy, are you linking these directly to the clickbank sales page or to your main website?

And how are you scheduling the posts? One a day?

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

Right now I am doing 3 posts a day manually, because I have not found a plugin that I'm happy with yet. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd like to hear them

Originally Posted by Neil S

Hey Jeremy, are you linking these directly to the clickbank sales page or to your main website?

And how are you scheduling the posts? One a day?
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lisawood 16 years ago

That's awesome! Congrats, and thanks for sharing
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16 years ago

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Emmanuel Betinis

16 years ago

Originally Posted by zerofill

...Because you are ranking higher with your content on your own site then you are with it on their site in the end.

What makes you say this?

I would think eZine Articles Directory's version of my article would rank higher in the SERPs than the version hosted on my site, wouldn't you? UNLESS:

a.) The Page Rank of the article is lower on EZA than my website's version is.

and/or

b.) The Alexa Rank of EZA is worse than my website's is (this one is doubtful

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and/or

c.) The article's on-page factors are not as optimized in EZA as they are on my website's version.

and/or

d.) The article's off-page factors are not as optimized in EZA as they are on my website's version.

Right?

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magentawave

16 years ago

Hi Jeremy,

A couple questions please...

1) You have been saying that if you have two sites with the same content that there will be no duplicate content penalty -- as long as you don't link the sites together. Okay cool. But what if you have an affiliate site that sells XYZ Widgets and the XYZ Widget company allows you to use their own content (from their great newsletter let us say) as content on your site. Would linking back to the XYZ Widget company with a cloaked affiliate link trigger the duplicate content penalty?

2) You said that someone you know built ten sites with the same content and all those sites are doing well. Besides the domain name and maybe the site theme/template, did he change the content at all, or is the content EXACTLY the same? Did he put the ten sites on 10 different cpanels?

3) Except for when someone wants to rewrite someone elses content to make it their own, doesn't this make all those article spinners obsolete?

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Emmanuel Betinis

16 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

1) You have been saying that if you have two sites with the same content that there will be no duplicate content penalty -- as long as you don't link the sites together. Okay cool. But what if you have an affiliate site that sells XYZ Widgets and the XYZ Widget company allows you to use their own content (from their great newsletter let us say) as content on your site. Would linking back to the XYZ Widget company with a cloaked affiliate link trigger the duplicate content penalty?

That's a good question that does naturally arise, doesn't it? I'll be posting a video of my question on http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tml#post374944 - this will clarify/verify we're on the same page AND crack the code to this confusion.

Originally Posted by magentawave

3) Except for when someone wants to rewrite someone elses content to make it their own, doesn't this make all those article spinners obsolete?

That's EXACTLY what I was saying...and thought the very exact same thing...that's why I started the thread http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tml#post374944 ...and I'll be posting a video soon there within the next couple hours to to CLARIFY.

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Emmanuel Betinis 16 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

...if you have two sites with the same content that there will be no duplicate content penalty -- as long as you don't link the sites together.

Are we sure about this?

Again, we go back to the news sites, etc. having the same info that are linked to each other and they're doing just fine in the SERPs. Right?

How sure are we about the "...as long as the sites aren't linked together" rule...doesn't sound right/fair to me. Anyone?
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Emmanuel Betinis

16 years ago

Originally Posted by magentawave

You have been saying that if you have two sites with the same content that there will be no duplicate content penalty -- as long as you don't link the sites together.

Are you speaking of article marketing in this particular instance? Or is it general webSITES? I ask because it is my understanding having a mirror site that is exactly identical in every way, shape and form on two different domains is NOT "okay" ONLY BECAUSE this is seen as spamming. If you create two separate domains with the exact same content, when Google finds out will ban both of those sites. Here is Google's policy: Duplicate content - Webmaster Help Center. Also, Yahoo, Alta Vista and Live all have the same policies. It is considered a black hat strategy to manipulate the SERPS in this way.

Guys/gals, please keep in mind I'm not talking about article marketing here...

Now, when it comes to article marketing, having the same exact article in thousands of different directories is fine because it is not "true duplicate content" in the sense that it's a mirror SITE. It's simply one little element (The article) of a larger picture (The entire site/directory with all the other different articles hosted making it quite unique as a whole when compared to the other article directories hosting that same article in question).

So, Steve, to answer your question about "is it bad to have duplicate content linking to each other" I would have to ask YOU a question: Is it bad in regards to what? In what way? What type of content? A complete website or an article? You'll get different answers depending on how specific you get with your question.

...because if it's article marketing you're speaking of (I'll presume for now that it is) you have nothing to worry about because that would never happen with article marketing (no 2 article directories are going to be identical (like a mirror site)).

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Stephen Crooks 16 years ago

What a great story Jeremy, I have seen for myself that duplicate content will get indexed. You can't beat original content in my opinion but it really is a fallacy when people say you should avoid duplicate content at all costs.
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Chris Lockwood

16 years ago

I think that's a pretty good amount of income for the amount of time spent- it will be interesting to see how much that blog makes over 6-12 months and how the earnings per day or week change over time.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Yeah, I'm curious as well...I might even set some of these up and if they bring in $50 - $100 a month, try to flip them. Havn't really made up my mind exactly what to do with them.

I hired someone this morning from ODESK to work on a bunch of these sites for me over the next week. They will do all the initial installs and the first batches of content and then I will take over from there.

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I think that's a pretty good amount of income for the amount of time spent- it will be interesting to see how much that blog makes over 6-12 months and how the earnings per day or week change over time.

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ivana 16 years ago

You've got to be kidding me. I was so afraid to post duplicate content so I keep on re writing everything. O.k. my next blog I am going to post some ezine articles and see what happens! Thanks...
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  We had some time last week and duplicated this with a strictly Adsense site. We only added content to it that had been posted to EZA over the past 2 months...guess what?
  
  We are already getting organic traffic after 2 weeks
  
  Definitely not a huge earner by any means at this time, but I think that more emphasis should be placed on the promotion of your good content rather than creating new content that says the same thing in different words.
  
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mormel

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood

I think that's a pretty good amount of income for the amount of time spent- it will be interesting to see how much that blog makes over 6-12 months and how the earnings per day or week change over time.

And not only that: a blog like that can show whether or not Google changes its policy in the meantime...
Maybe if we're all going to blog this way now, they simply decide to give the treatment of such sites a full twitch?!

Yours, intriguedly, Ed

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Steve Sanchez 16 years ago

Thanks for the great idea.
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tess47

16 years ago

Ok, I'm not real up to date on pinging and RSS feeds. So, when you say you set up a significant ping list, do you mean you added your site to sites like Technorati, Newsgator, etc? And if that is what you did, can you then ping them each time you update your blog using Pingoat or Ping My Blog?

Just curious - this stuff is pretty much Greek to me

Also, on RSS feeds - do you have to submit your feed to the aggregators each time you update your blog, or does it automatically update? If I'm going to try this, I want to do it right! I have nearly 550 articles on EZA, and they must be good for something.

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16 years ago

If it is a wordpress blog, it should automatically ping every time you make a post...not a page...but a post....

As far as RSS goes, some of them you can just submit once and forget where others you will have to resubmit on occasion to keep them up to date.

Personally, I resubmit about once a month. If the particular aggregator already has my feed and it is up to date great, but if not I will resubmit it.

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Ok, I'm not real up to date on pinging and RSS feeds. So, when you say you set up a significant ping list, do you mean you added your site to sites like Technorati, Newsgator, etc? And if that is what you did, can you then ping them each time you update your blog using Pingoat or Ping My Blog?

Just curious - this stuff is pretty much Greek to me

Also, on RSS feeds - do you have to submit your feed to the aggregators each time you update your blog, or does it automatically update? If I'm going to try this, I want to do it right! I have nearly 550 articles on EZA, and they must be good for something.

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davemclean

16 years ago

I've started a blog, but to date have not had any visitors from what I can tell, how do you start an RSS feed, I think that's what I'm missing.

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

You should just be able to use www.yoursite/feed

Originally Posted by davemclean

I've started a blog, but to date have not had any visitors from what I can tell, how do you start an RSS feed, I think that's what I'm missing.
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Mike Bogowski

16 years ago

Add it to the list of incorrect info that is shouted at us by parrots all over the web. Dup content, wikipedia, nofollow its all just rubbish written about by some big marketer who didnt test properly.

Oh well, makes it easier for the rest of us

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

So true, if you just listen to everything without doing any testing of your own, you are leaving a ton of money on the table.

Originally Posted by Mike Benkovich

Add it to the list of incorrect info that is shouted at us by parrots all over the web. Dup content, wikipedia, nofollow its all just rubbish written about by some big marketer who didnt test properly.

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Sylvia Meier

16 years ago

Jeremy,
I absolutly love this idea and think I will give it a go myself, got quite the base of articles that if fed 1 a day would fill blogs for around 2 months in a hunger market.

You said you went with your own domains (or I think you did, running on lack of sleep), did you go keyword heavy on these or just grab niche specific domain names and did you go .com or .info

I think I know a great way to randomize the order of posts as well, just go into my EZA account and sort the articles by the various sort methods they offer, like article number, name, veiws etc, this way they are in random order and I will have 5 different orders I could use on 5 different blogs.

Another quick question, did you grab traffic for them in the same way as you did for the bootcamp?

Thanks and grats on the success.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Sylvia Rolfe

Jeremy,
I absolutly love this idea and think I will give it a go myself, got quite the base of articles that if fed 1 a day would fill blogs for around 2 months in a hunger market.

You said you went with your own domains (or I think you did, running on lack of sleep), did you go keyword heavy on these or just grab niche specific domain names and did you go .com or .info

I think I know a great way to randomize the order of posts as well, just go into my EZA account and sort the articles by the various sort methods they offer, like article number, name, veiws etc, this way they are in random order and I will have 5 different orders I could use on 5 different blogs.

Another quick question, did you grab traffic for them in the same way as you did for the bootcamp?

Thanks and grats on the success.

Sylvia, I did use my own domains, but just made it a fairly general term. I used .com figuring I would have the best luck with it, not really sure what the result would have been with .info.

I really didn't do a whole lot for traffic except for pings, social bookmark, and add content regularly. I may start driving some traffic though lol

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Glenn72

16 years ago

One thing to remember for those concerned about duplicate content on a single domain blog, is that there's a duplicate content plugin available for Wordpress that will ensure only one version of the content is visible to the search engines. So just in case you end up accidentally posting the same article to your blog twice, the plugin should save you from being penalised for duplicate content.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

I didn't know about that - I'm off to find it now though

Originally Posted by Glenn72

One thing to remember for those concerned about duplicate content on a single domain blog, is that there's a duplicate content plugin available for Wordpress that will ensure only one version of the content is visible to the search engines. So just in case you end up accidentally posting the same article to your blog twice, the plugin should save you from being penalised for duplicate content.

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kevinw1

16 years ago

I've had the opposite experience in a couple of niches. In one case I wrote a loooong and detailed Squidoo lens, and later re-used the content on a WP-based site of my own. Google really loved the lens (it was #2 at one point in a medium-competition niche) but ignored - totally - the WP site. Last week the lens got removed from Squidoo and lo and behold, all of a sudden I am getting traffic from Google to the WP site.

In 2 other niches I used articles from EZ and Populate.net on WP blogs. Both are up to 150-250 posts each, more than 6 months old, and get almost no traffic at all. Google is apparently ignoring the content.

And my original-content non-duplicate sites DO get Google traffic, so it's not because there's something wrong with the site setup.

So, re-using may or may not work for you.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Kevin, in the example you gave, did you like your squidoo and WP blog together?

I've read a couple case studies on this now and almost all of them have worked out similar to my experience.

Just curious as to what we might be doing different.

Originally Posted by kevinw1

I've had the opposite experience in a couple of niches. In one case I wrote a loooong and detailed Squidoo lens, and later re-used the content on a WP-based site of my own. Google really loved the lens (it was #2 at one point in a medium-competition niche) but ignored - totally - the WP site. Last week the lens got removed from Squidoo and lo and behold, all of a sudden I am getting traffic from Google to the WP site.

In 2 other niches I used articles from EZ and Populate.net on WP blogs. Both are up to 150-250 posts each, more than 6 months old, and get almost no traffic at all. Google is apparently ignoring the content.

And my original-content non-duplicate sites DO get Google traffic, so it's not because there's something wrong with the site setup.

So, re-using may or may not work for you.

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kevinw1

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Kevin, in the example you gave, did you like your squidoo and WP blog together?

Yes, the Squidoo lens had a couple of links to the WP blog, and drove quite a good chunk of traffic to it.

I'm not saying your results are wrong, BTW - just that I haven't had the same ones (I sure wish I did!).

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Your problem, the way I see it is, you are linking the same content to the same content. From what I've read and tested, this will cause a dupe content penalty....

Originally Posted by kevinw1

Yes, the Squidoo lens had a couple of links to the WP blog, and drove quite a good chunk of traffic to it.

I'm not saying your results are wrong, BTW - just that I haven't had the same ones (I sure wish I did!).

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16 years ago

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

I have now started repurposing all of my my articles in a multitude of ways...no sense letting them collect dust

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16 years ago

That's not bad at all...Really shows what you can do with very little time.

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Rich Stevens

16 years ago

Help! I am new to this forum and I stumbled across this thread and found it really interesting. First of all, where are you all talking about getting this duplicate content from? Like from another blog or website then just putting it on your blog? Also, where are you getting the traffic from for your new blog with the duplicate content?
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16 years ago

Rich,

In my case it was my own content that was written under a Pen Name that I have at EzineArticles. However, I would imagine that you could just as likely take any content that you have rights to use and do that same thing.

This is something that I'm actually testing right now and will hopefully have some more news to report back shortly

As far as driving traffic, in my case, I didn't do much more than set my blog up to ping every time a post was made and submit my rss feed to a couple of RSS sites.

The key here, I think anyway is to spread the content out. What I mean is post a couple articles a day for 3 weeks straight or so.

What I'm focusing on now is the best way to monetize the traffic I'm getting. Currently all of the revenue has been derived through affiliate sales. I am going to test Adsense, CPA, and also adding some type of opt-in box to appropriate niches.

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Help! I am new to this forum and I stumbled across this thread and found it really interesting. First of all, where are you all talking about getting this duplicate content from? Like from another blog or website then just putting it on your blog? Also, where are you getting the traffic from for your new blog with the duplicate content?
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16 years ago

Thanks for the quick reply.

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Rich,

As far as driving traffic, in my case, I didn't do much more than set my blog up to ping every time a post was made and submit my rss feed to a couple of RSS sites.

I know this is going to sound like a total newbie question (I kinda am), but by setting your blog up to ping every time a post is made, what does that exactly do. Also, I know what RSS feeds do and why they are important, but how does that bring you traffic exactly? By submitting the feed to those "couple of RSS sites", I assume they are sites that are wanting syndicated content?

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

Rich, by pinging your posts you are essentially letting the world know that your blog has updated. Hopefully, getting the search engines back to your site.

With the RSS - take what I say here for what it's worth because I"m definitely not an RSS EXPERT

But, many of them will keep an updated snapshot of your site...every time you update your feed updates as well. Not to mention the fact that your feed itself could rank in the SERPS in addition to the backlinks that it gives to your site.

Originally Posted by Rich Stevens

Thanks for the quick reply.

I know this is going to sound like a total newbie question (I kinda am), but by setting your blog up to ping every time a post is made, what does that exactly do. Also, I know what RSS feeds do and why they are important, but how does that bring you traffic exactly? By submitting the feed to those "couple of RSS sites", I assume they are sites that are wanting syndicated content?

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Neil S

16 years ago

Jeremy, are you buying up new domains to post the content to? And do you link directly to the clickbank merchant or to your main website?

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Neil S

Jeremy, are you buying up new domains to post the content to? And do you link directly to the clickbank merchant or to your main website?

Yes, I'm buying new domains...

The links off the page go directly to the sales page

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16 years ago

For some of the tests Jeremy and I are doing right now...here is a rundown...

1) We buy a keyword phrase .com

2) We install the following plugins:

Related Content Plugin (this links related posts together)
All-in-one-seo pack
google sitemap generator
google analytics
tangaroo

Those are it...

3) We use prosense (in this experiment)

4) We are targeting a clickbank product and Adsense

5) The main pages have Adsense in various places (prosense is set up that way)

6) We use a banner for the clickbank product over every post on the main page

7) On the actual post pages there is a a form where people enter in something and that takes them to a clickbank product (They have committed subconsciously to taking some kind of action)

8) We tag all the posts with keywords and flickr images using the tagaroo plugin (Cool thing about tagaroo it will inject semantic meta data...data about data when a search engine crawls your site)

9) Set the related post plugin to show 3 related posts at the bottom of every post page...(Keep the crawler deep crawling our content form one to the next)

10) We ad a descent description for every post using all-in-one-seo

11) We submit the feed to various feed aggregators (Your wordpress feed is www.mydomain.com/feed)
Aggregators that allow tagging we tag the feeds with keywords we are targeting

12) We add google analytics

13) We add the sitemap to google webmaster tools by default the plugin makes sitemap.xml which would be reached by going to www.mydomain.com/sitemap.xml
For those of you that wonder where you rank in google for certain phrases that people reach your site with...Google webmaster tools will give you a summary of every month that shows you

14) We add a large list of ping sites to the are of wordpress when you go to "settings" and then "writing" you see a section that says "Update Services" that is where you add those. Every post they are notified...

15) We add all Jeremy's previously written content here and there adding it just like a normal user would add posts...

16) build more backlinks

17) Collect revenue

This strategy has proved to be very profitable...Hopefully didn't leave anything out...

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by zerofill

For some of the tests Jeremy and I are doing right now...here is a rundown...

1) We buy a keyword phrase .com

2) We install the following plugins:

Related Content Plugin (this links related posts together)
All-in-one-seo pack
google sitemap generator
google analytics
tangaroo

Those are it...

3) We use prosense (in this experiment)

4) We are targeting a clickbank product and Adsense

5) The main pages have Adsense in various places (prosense is set up that way)

6) We use a banner for the clickbank product over every post on the main page

7) On the actual post pages there is a a form where people enter in something and that takes them to a clickbank product (They have committed subconsciously to taking some kind of action)

8) We tag all the posts with keywords and flickr images using the tagaroo plugin (Cool thing about tagaroo it will inject semantic meta data...data about data when a search engine crawls your site)

9) Set the related post plugin to show 3 related posts at the bottom of every post page...(Keep the crawler deep crawling our content form one to the next)

10) We ad a descent description for every post using all-in-one-seo

11) We submit the feed to various feed aggregators (Your wordpress feed is www.mydomain.com/feed)
Aggregators that allow tagging we tag the feeds with keywords we are targeting

12) We add google analytics

13) We add the sitemap to google webmaster tools by default the plugin makes sitemap.xml which would be reached by going to www.mydomain.com/sitemap.xml
For those of you that wonder where you rank in google for certain phrases that people reach your site with...Google webmaster tools will give you a summary of every month that shows you

14) We add a large list of ping sites to the are of wordpress when you go to "settings" and then "writing" you see a section that says "Update Services" that is where you add those. Every post they are notified...

15) We add all Jeremy's previously written content here and there adding it just like a normal user would add posts...

16) build more backlinks

17) Collect revenue

This strategy has proved to be very profitable...Hopefully didn't leave anything out...

Hi zerofill,

That is a great step-by-step breakdown of you and Jeremy have been doing. At least the picture is clearer now.

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testaccount9998

16 years ago

First let me say, many thanks for this great thread! I have never seen so much great info on duplicate content.

This is my first post at WF (I have been a DP'er for over a year so I'm not a total noob)

In your step by step instruction post you mention that you use some type of submission form that takes people to your CB product.

Originally Posted by zerofill

7) On the actual post pages there is a a form where people enter in something and that takes them to a clickbank product (They have committed subconsciously to taking some kind of action)

Could you explain more about this system and how it works?

Thanks again

Rebtl

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GeorgR.

16 years ago

Jeremy,

i started an ultra simple "student loan consolidation" WP blog, working off the great "ProSense" template which i feed with Caffeinated Content.

It seems to go off the last days, i get many comments and google indexes my sites. I should make more blogs. CC + WP rocks!!

Edit: i don't spin either, i still want it to be a site for humans

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Originally Posted by GeorgR.

working off the great "ProSense" template which i feed with Caffeinated Content.

GeorgR, a couple of quick questions. What exactly do you mean by 'Caffeinated Content'? Sorry, I've not heard that one before.

Also, I notice that ProSense theme gets used a lot. I'm just curious as the what makes this so popular. The built in Adsense with the links along the top that look like site page links?

By the way, you're missing a privacy policy on that student loans page There's actually a WP plugin in for that.
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16 years ago

$600 from just 100 visitors. Could you show some proof?

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16 years ago

I'm a newbie at IM and I realised something, just now a I was reading this thread. It is great and I was about just to jump into this.
However I've realised that if I jump into every second great new thing that is on the WF, I'll never learn THE BASICS. Just yesterday I've decided to focus on Chris's conduit method combined with Allan Gardyne's 18 steps affiliate marketer manual for newbies like me. And then here I am today, getting excited at the next great quick making money scheme (don't get me wrong, I am NOT putting it down, that's not what I mean at all) that comes along on the WF.
Then I stopped, and I said no. I'll work through the basics first, to get a good IM foundation, and then and only then I will tackle these more advanced things. Because these are all aimed at the people who already know what they do.

Look at some of the posts here above in this thread - some people don't know what an RSS is, some others don't know how to set up a WP blog (I'm one of those, btw) but they all want to get $600 in the next hour. How, may I ask, will you do this???

IM newbies: learn first the basics and then jump in schemes and programs to get the quick cash, when you at least know the technicalities of what all is involved in it. Learn first something that you have at least a bit of success with, and then replicate, duplicate and go for new things to learn. Else I predict that 4 years down the road you're still going after the next quick money making thing and wondering why noone is visiting your site (note to self: learn from my own preaching!!!!!)

Um, did i just make an ass of my mouth? lol!

kislany

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by kislany

I'm a newbie at IM and I realised something, just now a I was reading this thread. It is great and I was about just to jump into this.
However I've realised that if I jump into every second great new thing that is on the WF, I'll never learn THE BASICS. Just yesterday I've decided to focus on Chris's conduit method combined with Allan Gardyne's 18 steps affiliate marketer manual for newbies like me. And then here I am today, getting excited at the next great quick making money scheme (don't get me wrong, I am NOT putting it down, that's not what I mean at all) that comes along on the WF.
Then I stopped, and I said no. I'll work through the basics first, to get a good IM foundation, and then and only then I will tackle these more advanced things. Because these are all aimed at the people who already know what they do.

Look at some of the posts here above in this thread - some people don't know what an RSS is, some others don't know how to set up a WP blog (I'm one of those, btw) but they all want to get $600 in the next hour. How, may I ask, will you do this???

IM newbies: learn first the basics and then jump in schemes and programs to get the quick cash, when you at least know the technicalities of what all is involved in it. Learn first something that you have at least a bit of success with, and then replicate, duplicate and go for new things to learn. Else I predict that 4 years down the road you're still going after the next quick money making thing and wondering why noone is visiting your site (note to self: learn from my own preaching!!!!!)

Um, did i just make an ass of my mouth? lol!

kislany

No you didn't "just make an ass of (your) mouth!"

You spoke the dead on truth!

I myself have been guilty of doing just what you've said and now, 1 year on and sticking to a plan and working the &^%$£" guts out of that plan am I making money!

My 3rd CB cheque is due in a week or so and after getting the first 2 in quick succession - that only happened because I finally stuck to ONE plan and focused on that one plan!

Newbies if you only take one thing from this thread, then it should be to study and absorb what "Kislany" has written!

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by kislany

I'm a newbie at IM and I realised something, just now a I was reading this thread. It is great and I was about just to jump into this.
However I've realised that if I jump into every second great new thing that is on the WF, I'll never learn THE BASICS. Just yesterday I've decided to focus on Chris's conduit method combined with Allan Gardyne's 18 steps affiliate marketer manual for newbies like me. And then here I am today, getting excited at the next great quick making money scheme (don't get me wrong, I am NOT putting it down, that's not what I mean at all) that comes along on the WF.
Then I stopped, and I said no. I'll work through the basics first, to get a good IM foundation, and then and only then I will tackle these more advanced things. Because these are all aimed at the people who already know what they do.

Look at some of the posts here above in this thread - some people don't know what an RSS is, some others don't know how to set up a WP blog (I'm one of those, btw) but they all want to get $600 in the next hour. How, may I ask, will you do this???

IM newbies: learn first the basics and then jump in schemes and programs to get the quick cash, when you at least know the technicalities of what all is involved in it. Learn first something that you have at least a bit of success with, and then replicate, duplicate and go for new things to learn. Else I predict that 4 years down the road you're still going after the next quick money making thing and wondering why noone is visiting your site (note to self: learn from my own preaching!!!!!)

Um, did i just make an ass of my mouth? lol!

kislany

You're so right Kislany... FOCUS, or else you'll spend way too much time learning all about everything before you do anything!

No ass made... :rolleyes:

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Sovereign 13 years ago

Jeremy,

Is this approach still viable since the Panda update?

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

Read the whole post.....

It was $600 and some change over a couple weeks from 100 visitors a day

Originally Posted by JOhnny Depth

$600 from just 100 visitors. Could you show some proof?
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MortenLA

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Currently, we are getting almost 100 visitors a day to each blog and in just over 6 weeks $628.94 was been made off of content that I thought was dead.

Wow, that's just all sorts of cool, thank you for the info....

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cowgirl63

16 years ago

I will definetly check this out! Thanks!

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247coolprofits

16 years ago

You've just let me know "Never waste your Articles"

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mark eastley

16 years ago

Jeremy,

Is there any reason that I can't use unedited PLR articles in my blogs. I've got 100s of them and it would be great to put them to some use!!!

Cheers,
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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

I don't see any reason that you couldn't

We are testing now with a couple of different sites and a ton of PLR that we have on our hard drives.

Originally Posted by mark eastley

Jeremy,

Is there any reason that I can't use unedited PLR articles in my blogs. I've got 100s of them and it would be great to put them to some use!!!

Cheers,
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coreytucker

16 years ago

Jermey,

are you getting your 100 uniques per day from just organic search engine traffic? Also how many articles did it take to get you to that 100 per day?

Lastly have you tried to see what happens when you only update your site say perhaps once a week after you get your site "loaded" with a good amount of content?

Great post by the way

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16 years ago

Cory, a good bit of the traffic was coming from a bookmark on Digg and also an RSS submission at feedagg. However, there is organic traffic coming in every day.

I have not really experimented yet with updating less frequently, but we just set up a couple different blogs over the last 2 days that we are going to test a bunch of different ways

Originally Posted by coreytucker

Jermey,

are you getting your 100 uniques per day from just organic search engine traffic? Also how many articles did it take to get you to that 100 per day?

Lastly have you tried to see what happens when you only update your site say perhaps once a week after you get your site "loaded" with a good amount of content?

Great post by the way

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16 years ago

There are so many ways to make money off content! You just showed us another way

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coreytucker

16 years ago

Thanks Jermey. Just curious, how much organic traffic do you think your getting though? Thats what interest me more than anything

I dont expect an exact answer...just estimation. Have a good day.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

At this point, probably 30% is organic. I expect that to grow though as more and more pages are indexed

Originally Posted by coreytucker

Thanks Jermey. Just curious, how much organic traffic do you think your getting though? Thats what interest me more than anything

I dont expect an exact answer...just estimation. Have a good day.

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magentawave 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

At this point, probably 30% is organic. I expect that to grow though as more and more pages are indexed

I must have missed something while reading this but if only 30% of your traffic is organic, then where is the other 70% coming from?

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InternetM39482

16 years ago

Well congratulations.

I've the same question as the above - What about organic traffic?

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coreytucker

16 years ago

ok thanks. I will give this a try

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freudianslip27

16 years ago

That's awesome,

Yes, duplicate content is a myth in my opinion too. It's all about promotion in my opinion. Links are so, so important. The great thing about articles you've submitted to directories is that they already belong to you, why not use them!

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richfit

16 years ago

I don't how "long term" you will see this traffic. The question for you is:

How many times have you submitted it to OnlyWire & SocialMarker????

That's an easy way to get traffic but doesn't last very long when using duplicate content. Over time Google figures out what you're up to.

Remember, Google is constantly filtering Quality or in my terms Super High Actionable Content.

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

I only submit each page once

If you do keyword research correctly, it's not hard to rank with 10+ pages and a couple decent links.

I expect to see this traffic for a long time and if it slows down, I'll just show it a little more love

Originally Posted by richfit

I don't how "long term" you will see this traffic. The question for you is:

How many times have you submitted it to OnlyWire & SocialMarker????

That's an easy way to get traffic but doesn't last very long when using duplicate content. Over time Google figures out what you're up to.

Remember, Google is constantly filtering Quality or in my terms Super High Actionable Content.

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Just wanted to say thanks for the tips Jeremy. You always seem to have great advice.
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  Thanks! Honestly, this is nothing new though
  
  There have been many people that didn't think that a duplicate content penalty existed and I just wanted to test it for myself.
  
  On a larger Scale another warrior Tommy Gadget made 10 blogs with the same content and didn't get hit with a penalty either so, there must be something to it
  
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  Just wanted to say thanks for the tips Jeremy. You always seem to have great advice.
  
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  I have been trying to get targeted traffic to an optin page lately.
  
  Do you think it would be wise to set up a blog and just post articles to it and lets say put an optin form on each blog post?
  
  Also, the whole blog and ping thing. I have always had difficulty getting traffic to sites just by posting and pinging. Even with some link juice I have never gotten the kind of traffic that you got.
  
  Don't know what I have been doing wrong...
  
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16 years ago

Hi Jeremy,

I sent you a pm.

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Chiayee

16 years ago

Jeremy:

I am wondering if you can still do this with the new term stated at EZA:
"Agree to limit the number of articles reprinted to no greater than taking 25 articles from our site per calendar year per unique domain that you own. In addition, for domain owners of many domains, you may not reprint more than 250 articles per year (10 sites x 25 articles reprinted per domain)."

Terms of Service For Publishers Who Wish To Reprint Any Content From EzineArticles.com

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

They are my articles so, I imagine I can do whatever I want with them

Originally Posted by Chiayee

Jeremy:

I am wondering if you can still do this with the new term stated at EZA:
"Agree to limit the number of articles reprinted to no greater than taking 25 articles from our site per calendar year per unique domain that you own. In addition, for domain owners of many domains, you may not reprint more than 250 articles per year (10 sites x 25 articles reprinted per domain)."

Terms of Service For Publishers Who Wish To Reprint Any Content From EzineArticles.com

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zerofill

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Chiayee

Jeremy:

I am wondering if you can still do this with the new term stated at EZA:
"Agree to limit the number of articles reprinted to no greater than taking 25 articles from our site per calendar year per unique domain that you own. In addition, for domain owners of many domains, you may not reprint more than 250 articles per year (10 sites x 25 articles reprinted per domain)."

Terms of Service For Publishers Who Wish To Reprint Any Content From EzineArticles.com

PLease advice, thanks!

I have to say though...This has to be one of the most idiotic TOS additions I have ever seen on a site.

1) How could you possibly control that or monitor it? I am not saying go against the addition they made to the TOS but are you telling everyone that you are going to spend more time and effort policing this than actually reviewing articles?

2) Adding this to their TOS basically proves the method works. They are losing Adsense commissions. Because you are ranking higher with your content on your own site then you are with it on their site in the end.

So basically the addition to the TOS is to protect their advertisement commissions...Which I can not blame them. However that revenue isn't produced by their content. It is produced by article marketers...I think they need to go back and rethink what they are saying. If they mean alternate content that isn't yours...then fine.

If they mean you can't reprint more than 25 of your own articles per website then that is just morally wrong in so many ways in my book.

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16 years ago

Hey Jeremy: thanks for the quick reply ! Appreciate it!

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

No problem...

I use my own articles because I like to re-purpose my own content as much as I possibly can. Nothing like getting paid for the same content 2 or 3 places, right? lol

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Hey Jeremy: thanks for the quick reply ! Appreciate it!
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Mark-Dickenson

16 years ago

wow...what a great thread!

Thanks Jeremy, Zerofill, and everyone else who contributed to this thread...I have learned a ton of things that I can put to use right away

Quick question I just thought of...so lets say if the niche you are talking about is weight loss, you put the banner code at the top of each post...so am I to assume that you are promoting just the one product or are you mixing it up?

I thought I read it was just one product but wanted to clarify. The banner per post was really helpful advice for me

Thanks again for a money post

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16 years ago

Hi Jeremy,

What is your website address? I'd like to see, thanks!

Thanks!

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Jeremy Kelsall

16 years ago

The particular niche that I did this one is - is top secret....shhhhh

However, I can do another one and maybe even do up a free report to distribute to anyone that is interested.

This would be a great way especially for beginners to get their feet wet.

Jeremy

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Goldenchute

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

The particular niche that I did this one is - is top secret....shhhhh

However, I can do another one and maybe even do up a free report to distribute to anyone that is interested.

This would be a great way especially for beginners to get their feet wet.

Jeremy

I'm interested in the above Jeremy! I just thought about doing this a few weeks ago on Blogger but, don't want to waste all my articles on a site I don't own! And I couldn't see doing it on a regular website either. I also have a crap load of articles to use.

What I really would like to know is how is the best way to lay out the WP blog. Put a full article in per post or just a snippet with a link to the full article, etc.

I would REALLY love it if you could do another blog as an example so we can see the layout! That would be great for me...

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I might have some time coming up here shortly. If I do, I'll throw something together and make it a free download.
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16 years ago

Hey Jeremy,

Do you teach this concept in your coaching program?

Shawn

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Hi Jeremy

Just in case you missed it - did you see my PM from yesterday? Thanks
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16 years ago

This is totally cool. I've only recently come to the same conclusion. I have over 500 articles on EZA, which now can be milked for much more profit! Thanks for the results of your experiment!

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gail1367

16 years ago

Hi Jeremy,

I have a question. I have a hosting account where i can only have one domain hosted.(i can't afford to upgrade yet). I was wondering if this would work if i used either subdomains or put each wp blog in its own folder. eg. http:wwwyoursite.com/niche/ I know how to do this. I was wondering if this would work and which would be better for a subdomain or folder.

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Christie Love

16 years ago

Jeremy, you never cease to amaze me. I've always been hesitant about duplicating content. This is good to know.

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16 years ago

Wow, how many articles did you write? :O Sounds like a vast amount.

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Adustul

16 years ago

great post as usually jeremy

here's a quick question, I'm assuming your blog is completely fresh and not being linked to from Ezine from those or other articles?

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zerofill

16 years ago

Jeremy has been out of town a few days...relative was ill...
Should be back today or tonight...

But yeah...the blogs were brand new...

And yep...duplicate content is not so much a myth as it is misunderstood...

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16 years ago

Hi Jeremy and Donald,

Excellent post!

I am sure you can be named the Niche Experts :p

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Girish

16 years ago

Jeremy, how did you monetize the traffic? Affiliate offers or CPA offers?

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I monetized with affiliate offers, but since then have done more with Adsense as well. I monetize it in a way that fits the niche.

Originally Posted by Girish

Jeremy, how did you monetize the traffic? Affiliate offers or CPA offers?
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markdsullivan

16 years ago

wow awesome

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Jason Zalesky

16 years ago

I find this very interesting because I did the same thing awhile back with my article package I have. I have thousands of PLR articles and I remember on another thread about automatic wordpress posting software and using just plain PLR. So I gave it a shot and about two months later I came back to the 3 blogs I setup and I was averaging about 500 to 1000 visitors a day. On top of that I made about 1500 in clickbank sales. So I believe the whole duplicate content thing is not as bad as everyone states it to be.

I also ended up selling my blogs for a good profit. So about 4 hours of work on my part and it turned me up about 3k. Not to shabby I would say. Anyway point is that its worth trying if you have free time and you have nothing to lose in doing it only something to gain. Either way you can just sell the blog after a couple of months of good traffic.

Jason

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AbdulAzim

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Zalesky

I find this very interesting because I did the same thing awhile back with my article package I have. I have thousands of PLR articles and I remember on another thread about automatic wordpress posting software and using just plain PLR. So I gave it a shot and about two months later I came back to the 3 blogs I setup and I was averaging about 500 to 1000 visitors a day. On top of that I made about 1500 in clickbank sales. So I believe the whole duplicate content thing is not as bad as everyone states it to be.

I also ended up selling my blogs for a good profit. So about 4 hours of work on my part and it turned me up about 3k. Not to shabby I would say. Anyway point is that its worth trying if you have free time and you have nothing to lose in doing it only something to gain. Either way you can just sell the blog after a couple of months of good traffic.

Jason

500 to 1000 visitors a day with PLR articles?You must be making good income
from that sites.Yeah,1500 in clickbank sales in just two month.

Azim

That is really awesome.

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Jason Zalesky

16 years ago

Originally Posted by AbdulAzim

500 to 1000 visitors a day with PLR articles?You must be making good income
from that sites.Yeah,1500 in clickbank sales in just two month.

Azim

That is really awesome.

I was promoting the acne niche. Its a hot item since most teens and 20 somethings go through episodes and want to find a quick cure. Some of the treatments for bad cases can get expensive so people look for other ways.

This is just one niche. If you truley want to learn how to make some easy money then everyone should not pass up on Jermeys 30 coaching course. Has step by step videos teaching and showing how you can easily make 1k plus a month just using article marketing. Cool thing is that he starts from scratch and makes money proving it can be done. So I would say its a must buy for someone starting off in internet marketing and looking for some easy cash.

Jason

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magentawave

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Zalesky

I was promoting the acne niche. Its a hot item since most teens and 20 somethings go through episodes and want to find a quick cure. Some of the treatments for bad cases can get expensive so people look for other ways.

This is just one niche. If you truley want to learn how to make some easy money then everyone should not pass up on Jermeys 30 coaching course. Has step by step videos teaching and showing how you can easily make 1k plus a month just using article marketing. Cool thing is that he starts from scratch and makes money proving it can be done. So I would say its a must buy for someone starting off in internet marketing and looking for some easy cash.

Jason

Good stuff!

1) Do you remember how many pages of content you had up at the time you sold the acne blogs?

2) How often did you set up the posting of the content? One page per day or every other day??

3) Did you put the content up as pages or posts?

4) Why sell and asset when its chugging along and making money?

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magentawave

16 years ago

Two questions here please...

1) It seems to be a controversial issue, but does anyone have an opinion based on experience on whether to do a site with ONLY affiliate links... or ONLY Adsense...or affiliate links AND Adsense?

2) My experience is that most properly constructed sites get a boost from search engines when new, but will a site with duplicate content continue doing well a year or two later? Do those sites have legs?

Steve

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jhongren

16 years ago

1) It seems to be a controversial issue, but does anyone have an opinion based on experience on whether to do a site with ONLY affiliate links... or ONLY Adsense...or affiliate links AND Adsense?

Hi Steve,

What you can do is to offer affiliate links first.
Based on experience, affiliate marketing
offers more commission compared to the
money you can earn from adsense.

But adsense is another source
of income for other readers who
are seeking other info beside the
affiliate products you are promoting.

2) My experience is that most properly constructed sites get a boost from search engines when new, but will a site with duplicate content continue doing well a year or two later? Do those sites have legs?

I think Jeremy is a better person to
answer this. I remember he has
mentioned he did duplicate content.

All the best Steve!

Cheers,
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Mary Wilhite 13 years ago

its nice you didn´t have to do anything else then spending an hour on this..
earning a lot of money to

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star007 16 years ago

I have review sites that are years old with duplicate content on them as well as newer blogs and I have never had any problems.

I have heard that the search engines are more interested in whose linking to your sites than they about whether you have two different sites with the same content. Just my three cents!
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AbdulAzim

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Zalesky

I was promoting the acne niche. Its a hot item since most teens and 20 somethings go through episodes and want to find a quick cure. Some of the treatments for bad cases can get expensive so people look for other ways.

This is just one niche. If you truley want to learn how to make some easy money then everyone should not pass up on Jermeys 30 coaching course. Has step by step videos teaching and showing how you can easily make 1k plus a month just using article marketing. Cool thing is that he starts from scratch and makes money proving it can be done. So I would say its a must buy for someone starting off in internet marketing and looking for some easy cash.

Jason

No wonder you are selling 100,000 PLR articles on your signature. ^_^

Azim

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AdrianMansilla

16 years ago

Jason,

What "automatic wordpress posting software" do you use?

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Originally Posted by Jason Zalesky

I find this very interesting because I did the same thing awhile back with my article package I have. I have thousands of PLR articles and I remember on another thread about automatic wordpress posting software and using just plain PLR. So I gave it a shot and about two months later I came back to the 3 blogs I setup and I was averaging about 500 to 1000 visitors a day. On top of that I made about 1500 in clickbank sales. So I believe the whole duplicate content thing is not as bad as everyone states it to be.

I also ended up selling my blogs for a good profit. So about 4 hours of work on my part and it turned me up about 3k. Not to shabby I would say. Anyway point is that its worth trying if you have free time and you have nothing to lose in doing it only something to gain. Either way you can just sell the blog after a couple of months of good traffic.

Jason

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16 years ago

Kudos to Jeremy for posting his test! It gives me a great idea for an alternate test I am going to try.

What a great way to start off the new year - new blogs with recycled content for no money in a ridiculously short amount of time!

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AbdulAzim

16 years ago

Originally Posted by PhotoVideoCompany

My point was all of the news sites use duplicated content without penalty so why couldn't everyone else too, the point is, as long as your site is being useful to other people, it's all good.
Mark

Yeah,totally right..I agree with you.Thanks a lot.

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16 years ago

Cool! Thanks for the post.

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

Why?

Do you have a reason to say that or are you just trying to get people to your blog?

Originally Posted by Technoflickers

its better to run your own article directory and place adsense on the that
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16 years ago

Congrats! And thanks for sharing this with us. It gives us hope.

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pandorabox 16 years ago

Totally agree but- over time found unique content sites got slightly higher pr but only a point or two...
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16 years ago

its nice you didn´t have to do anything else then spending an hour on this..
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Tomas Lodén

16 years ago

What about using nothing but other's content from EZA..

Build one blog per niche with hundreds of articles from EZA til you end up with 100's of diff niche blogs..

Do ya guys think this will work..?

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16 years ago

If you did that, technically you would have to include the original authors resource box....talk about a leak!

Originally Posted by Tomas Lodén

What about using nothing but other's content from EZA..

Build one blog per niche with hundreds of articles from EZA til you end up with 100's of diff niche blogs..

Do ya guys think this will work..?

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jhongren 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

If you did that, technically you would have to include the original authors resource box....talk about a leak!

Adding onto to what Jeremy has mentioned,
the aim is to direct the traffic from article
directory to your blog/ site and then onto
the affiliate product page you are promoting.

This funnel should be as streamlined as
possible with no or minimal leakages.

It is no doubt hard work to write articles.
But imagine this ... your article which you
write today, may still bring in income for
the next 3 to 5 years (assuming it still
ranks well in the search engine).

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

If you did that, technically you would have to include the original authors resource box....talk about a leak!

Yes offcourse there will be a leak but theres only one way to find out how much.. I'm going to do a test with adsense and EZA articles so I'm going to set up two new sites in a niche i know i can make appr $0.50-$0.80 per adsense click from.. 1 site with my own content and 1 site using articles from EZA.. I'll post the results on my blog later..
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Jkeown

16 years ago

Hey Jeremy!

That's Brilliant stuff, I've been planning to use most of my content several times so your experience is a great boost of confidence to me!

I have a little question or two though,

I have a website here Build Muscle Fast

and a blog at the domain/blog

Do you suggest simply posting to the blog and linking directly to my chosen product, or linking to the site?

And is having a blog on the same domain as my sales page worse for SEO etc??

One other thing I wondered was, would it matter that a lot of articles I'm writing are similar in content? Of course it's all wordered differently etc but there is a limit to what you can write haha!

PS I've used the "Blogs for Traffic" BLogging method qhich was released by a warrior member I beleive, will that suffice?

Thanks so much in advance, I don't usually like to ask people that many questions! Cheers Mate

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16 years ago

Congrats on your discover and hopefully it will bring you much success later down the road.

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Banned 16 years ago

Wow this is quite an interesting idea. I'll have to try it out for myself.

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Whyshirley

16 years ago

Superb - I have some old articles positively demanding to be re-used on a blog. I am definitely going to give this a go this weekend - what's to lose?

Thanks for the tip Jeremy!

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dwrglobal 16 years ago

Thanks I've found this interesting thread. I was once scared of this duplicate content myth and limited me from using my own articles from EZA to other places. But not anymore.. This is a super info really..

Thanks again Jeremy and all the people participating in this thread...
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Banned 16 years ago

That's really cool. Anyway congress

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seye

16 years ago

nice one , congratulations on your success , but i will encourage you to include new aticles in the mix keep up the traffic

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16 years ago

Jeremy,
Excellent Job! Thanks for sharing.

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I am curiously watching this thread. Any update from anyone who applied this technique?
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16 years ago

Hi Jeremy,

Can you share the "ping list" for us please. I am currently doing an experiment (but with rewritten -not duplicate) articles that I have scheduled for a month or so. Currently I only have rpc.pingomatic.com under "Update Services"

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Banned 16 years ago

I can beat my chest and say blogging is one of the most important marketing strategy for internet marketers. Congrat for the Breakthrough and Welcome to the World of Unlimited possibilities.

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azizkasam

16 years ago

Hi Jeremy,
I am new to internet marketing and I don't know how to set RSS feed can you help me. Just give any site name for tutorial...
and one more thing what is substantial ping list. May be this sounds stupid but I have googled it and don't find understandable
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nancyp

16 years ago

This is very interesting. I have been struggling to create new articles all the time for fear of duplicate content. I will now start using my old articles and post them to my blogs...Thanks!

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laghabek 16 years ago

Thanks Jeremy!

I have quite a bit of articles on EZA and i was always afraid to put them on my blog.
I am going to do it now!

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Jason Daniels

16 years ago

Sorry just getting into this. What is EZA? How did you decide what to make your blogs on? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Jason,

Originally Posted by Jason Daniels

Sorry just getting into this. What is EZA? How did you decide what to make your blogs on? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

EZA = EzineArticles Submission - Submit Your Best Quality Original Articles For Massive Exposure, Ezine Publishers Get 25 Free Article Reprints

As far as deciding what to do the blogs on...Just regular research into niches and keywords. pretty much any niche is good though. I havn't met many yet that I didn't like for one reason or another
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  Jeremy,
  
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Tim Brendel

16 years ago

Jeremy,

2 questions:

1. Im assuming you pay the $99/month EZA membership? True?

2. Your blog ping list - Didn't that go away with WordPRess 2.6 and 2.7? I thought the pings were automatic now???

Thanks for the success story, I love these!

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Jeremy Kelsall 16 years ago

up4bidz,

Originally Posted by up4bidz

Jeremy,
2 questions:
1. Im assuming you pay the $99/month EZA membership? True?

For the moment I do. I upgraded for the Article Marketers Boot Camp that we did to make sure that there was no delay in what I was trying to teach. More than likely I will cancel it after the month is up.

Originally Posted by up4bidz

2. Your blog ping list - Didn't that go away with WordPRess 2.6 and 2.7? I thought the pings were automatic now???

hmmmm, Good question! That is definitely possible. Don takes care of a lot of the set up stuff with the blogs etc...He won't let me near them for fear that I will permanently break them! In case you have not heard, I'm a bit of a techno tard

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16 years ago

Thanks for sharing.

Are all your articles related? (same niche)

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AdrianMansilla

16 years ago

Hi,

How do you setup automatic ping in each post?

"I set the blogs up with a substantial ping list and started adding the content to the blogs at a clip of about 3 pages a day, which were automatically pinged, etc."

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16 years ago

Great tips, great post thanks for sharing

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jasonl70

16 years ago

A handfull of us have tried explaining this dup content thing for a while.. at last some folks are finaly listening this time

I have several blogs where I ONLY post press releases from 1 single company (a different company on each blog). I get the releases straight from the companies web sites. My blogs outrank those companies sites for that exact same content. Now, these were just cheap-o zero-effort blogs that I put together soley to drop relavant text links to my own sites. I only pent $10 each on some social bookmarking outsourcing, and that's it besides the rss feeds and pings.

Originally Posted by Glenn72

One thing to remember for those concerned about duplicate content on a single domain blog, is that there's a duplicate content plugin available for Wordpress that will ensure only one version of the content is visible to the search engines. So just in case you end up accidentally posting the same article to your blog twice, the plugin should save you from being penalised for duplicate content.

There's really no 'penalty' if google sees the dup content across your site.. it will simply decide to keep one page in it's index, and move the rest of your dup into the supplementals index. I've experienced it a ton of times - and it never effected my site's ranking as a whole. Those dup pages just no longer help you - but they don't hurt you.

Originally Posted by JOhnny Depth

$600 from just 100 visitors. Could you show some proof?

that's 100 visitors PER DAY.

Originally Posted by gail1367

Hi Jeremy,

I have a question. I have a hosting account where i can only have one domain hosted.(i can't afford to upgrade yet). I was wondering if this would work if i used either subdomains or put each wp blog in its own folder. eg. http:wwwyoursite.com/niche/ I know how to do this. I was wondering if this would work and which would be better for a subdomain or folder.

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You need to look around for a different hosting provider. You can get unlimited domain hosting from a lot of places for like $6 a month.

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Hi,

How do you setup automatic ping in each post?

wordpress does this automaticaly..

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16 years ago

I set the blogs up with a substantial ping list

Please explain what this means ?

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16 years ago

I really appreciate an updated Ping List, as it seems mine is kind of old...

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16 years ago

If duplicate content was all myth, then why not cut and past all half of all content?

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HeidiMarie

16 years ago

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but would this work with a regular blog with wordpress, or only a blog you are hosting? I know it's better to "own" your own blog site, but I haven't quite gotten to that point yet (i will soon, just not quite there yet). Right now I have a couple reqular blogs and a ton of squidoo pages.

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Megas 16 years ago

I've always been more into the approach of re-purposing my content so as to not duplicate it.
I can sometimes build up to 10 articles off of 1.
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Anomaly1974

16 years ago

Haha I wrote about this over a year ago but it is good that somebody else finally understands this myth. If Duplicate Content was the evil so many people make it out to be think about the penalties on your RSS Feeds posted out on so many sites, your Social Bookmarking with "Duplicate Content" on so many sites and article marketing. If the Duplicate Content myths were all true, Web2.0 would not work at all.

Thanks for pointing this out but it still amazes me that anyone would have to.

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What are you up to now Jeremy?
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  Originally Posted by Rod Cortez
  
  What are you up to now Jeremy?
  
  I honestly don't know
  
  We started doing the same thing on a ton of sites, don wrote a script to automate it and a plugin to "change" the PLR a bit and we have just continued hitting it hard since them.
  
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13 years ago

Another back-from-the-dead-thread

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Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

Another back-from-the-dead-thread

Zombie Apocalypse is eminent.

Might want to try a PM to Jeremy, but in my experience everything mentioned here is well worth doing.

Putting content on sites you control (I would argue you put it there first, but later is better than never.)

Setting up larger ping lists - easy to do. Find or get your own list and copy/paste it every time you make a new site.

Submitting RSS feeds - Buy RSSBot, well worth the money. Many places you put content has an RSS feed. Takes all of a couple minutes once things are set up.

Getting the lists and setting things up is the big time waster here (not really by much.) Once you get the lists and RSS bot set up, you can do both in a few minutes easily... and only need to do them once a site (or feed.)
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Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

Another back-from-the-dead-thread

Revived with a legitimate question.
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  Is this approach still viable since the Panda update?
  
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Matthew Shane Roe

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

Months ago, I was like many other people here - scared to death of Duplicate content and all the other "no nos" that everyone was talking about. So, I was publishing all of my content to EZA and was happy with the results, because I was getting paid

After reading some stuff here about the duplicate content issue, I set up 2 Wordpress blogs on 2 different niches that I had a ass ton of content published to EZA on.

I set the blogs up with a substantial ping list and started adding the content to the blogs at a clip of about 3 pages a day, which were automatically pinged, etc.

I set up my RSS feed and submitted it to feedagg and a couple others.

Before I knew it I started getting traffic to my blogs based on the same exact content that had been published at EZA for over 6 months. Currently, we are getting almost 100 visitors a day to each blog and in just over 6 weeks $628.94 was been made off of content that I thought was dead.

I want to make it clear, I did not spin/alter the content at all. Just posted it and then left it alone with the exception of the RSS feed. I'm now ranking fairly well for several keywords and I can't see the traffic or ranking really going anywhere as I have other old content to post as well

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13 years ago

So you just left the blog and it suddenly started getting traffic? I hope my blogs start doing that if my content is good enough lol.

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13 years ago

Great thread discussion! Learned a lot and thanks for going out there and doing these experiments to get us some answers!

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magnates

13 years ago

Congratulations !!!! I am very surprised though .i can't believe that google has not penalised your blog yet ... This throws the whole duplicate content idea out of the water

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dagaul101

13 years ago

Nice stats, the duplicate content issue can be a little confusing, but there is a difference between syndicated content, and pasting the same content twice on the same site

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gskesavan

13 years ago

Jeremy with his useful experiments again. Your 1st page Google rank WSO for 4 bucks was quite a charm by itself. LOL I enjoy reading your experiments on obnoxious things.

Well, I have been copying content from EZA lately to my sites and they definitely bring a lot of traffic. Duplicate content should be a myth. Even Andrew Hansen gets content from EZA to his blog. It's mentioned in one of this reports.

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rockone

13 years ago

I am speechless after reading the thread and all the replies. I could never think that someone can make huge profit from duplicate content. Really hats off. I will also try the same. Wish I too make some money.

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celente

13 years ago

why has this old post been dug up from 2008. lol.

hmmm, alarm bells ringing! lol.

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Steven Wagenheim 13 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

why has this old post been dug up from 2008. lol.

hmmm, alarm bells ringing! lol.

Actually, the question asked is quite legit and one I've been thinking to myself
as well. So much from years ago is no longer effective since Panda, so the
question is valid.
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Jaymark

13 years ago

Interesting information. Didn't know it could work that way. Thanks!

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SoEasyMoney

13 years ago

So does this mean that I can snag 100s of articles from EZA (leaving the resource box intact, of course) and populate my blog and in Google's eyes its ok? Wow....and I've been spending 100s of dollars on fresh content?

I must be missing something here.

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saiyan11 13 years ago

I have a Poker related blog that have not updated in more than a year because I have no time to write articles. I guess I could give a try and revive that old blog!!

Let´s se what happens

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Boricua

13 years ago

Before I knew it I started getting traffic to my blogs based on the same exact content that had been published at EZA for over 6 months. Currently, we are getting almost 100 visitors a day to each blog and in just over 6 weeks $628.94 was been made off of content that I thought was dead.

I want to make it clear, I did not spin/alter the content at all. Just posted it and then left it alone with the exception of the RSS feed. I'm now ranking fairly well for several keywords and I can't see the traffic or ranking really going anywhere as I have other old content to post as well

The Panda update brought so much confusion that there were people here, actually believing, that article marketing was dead! The paranoia on Google's algo recent change will keep getting clearer on much more people. My quick logical believe is that are afraid the most with the Panda update are those who never test with the content they've on their site or never bothered to actually look at their sites changes in rankings.

A nice structured site you must have those results Jeremy, that's for sure. Won't surprise me if it's just a simple basic site that's nicely design for Google to crawl it, with simple contact us page and a few well structured content categories. Oh well@

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JamesGw

13 years ago

I think it'd probably be less effective post-Panda, but I'd hesitate to say that the method is entirely dead. Run some experiments and see what happens!

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Adam Smith

13 years ago

After reading this and finding it very interesting I have decided to preform the experement and track the results here. What I have done so far:

1. Registered a TLD exact match for a niche with 6,500 exact searches.
2. Set up Wordpress with the following Plugins:

All in One SEO Pack
Easy Google Analytics for Wordpress
nrelate Related Content
Simple Google Sitemap XML

Iv some PLR articles about this niche which I am using.

I started this last night and posted 3 of the articles. I have just finished posting another 3.

The site is not indexed by Google, so I have ordered the following from Fiverr to get the ball rolling and also it saves me time submitting the feed to RSS aggregators and ping lists.

multimastery: I will submit your rss feed to 100 RSS directories for $5 on fiverr.com
danzig: I will ping your site to around 1500 PR 2 to 7 statistics websites to gain high Pr backlinks for $5 on fiverr.com
karolina: I will ping your website or blog to over 70 services for $5 on fiverr.com
joepark: I will create 70 High PR Authority Backlinks To Your Site for $5 on fiverr.com
wiseman: I will create 10 Edu backlinks for your site Explanation and PROOF 1st Page of Google Inside for $5 on fiverr.com
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I have added Google adsense on each post and have set up analytics to monitor where the traffic is coming from.

I will be posting 3 articles a day, and when I run out of PLR content I intend on getting the content from Article Directories.

Ill keep you informed of how its going in the next few weeks

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Adam Smith

13 years ago

Update.

Day 3.

I have now posted 6 articles all together, none of which have been original. Im getting a little confused in regards to what has been indexed and what hasn't as all the articles show up on google when i type the "www.domainname.com" yet in webmaster tools it shows the sitemap has been submitted but it says there are 0 URLs indexed - strange!

Anyways, here are the fiverr gigs which have been completed:

1. build 60High PR 6 to 8 Backlinks to your site 100 percent money back guarentee for $5
2. create 10 Edu backlinks for your site Explanation and PROOF 1st Page of Google Inside for $5
3. create 70 High PR Authority Backlinks To Your Site for $5
4. ping your website or blog to over 70 services for $5

The site is already ranking for 3 long tail keywords...

1. Best xxxxxx - 59th
2. Best xxxxxx remedies - 37th
3. Best xxxxxx treatments - 64th

The keywords im actually targeting are:

1. XXXXXX
2. XXXXXX Remedies
3. xxxxxxx Treatments

I will update again in a few days if there is any movement.

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Nick Lotter

13 years ago

Looking forward to seeing your results. I am conducting a similar test myself on an old site of mine using PLR articles.

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JV Warrior

13 years ago

Duplicate content is definately myth.

I have a site that is in a niche specific market. It is actually just 20 or so articles and was sold as a major pack about 4 years ago. I put it up on one of my aged sites, but before doing so, I searched for the names of the articles in some search engines to see what would show.

To my initial horror, the first few pages had my very articles on them verbatim.
Others had published the content as is on their own sites. But I thought, what the heck, lets give it a try.

Within a couple of weeks I had some income from the site. Now it makes an average of $100 per month from ads on the site. At this point, I do not know if its because the domain its on is aged, or because I have other content on the same site that is unique, so its not just a blatant ripp off of another site, but it shows as others have said... Test for yourself

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grandstar

13 years ago

Great post!

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fdemming

13 years ago

That's pretty awesome...

That goes to show you what taking action can do for you. Others should follow your lead.

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idk007

13 years ago

I've done the same thing for a very competative insurance kw. I rank 5th next to the company's keyword.

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Nick Lawless

13 years ago

So this was originally posted back in 2008. Does anyone know if this still works now??

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bcagle

13 years ago

Hey, that is a great share! I also have content rich sites that I update regularly. I have just begun to monetize them. Am already averaging a couple of hundred hits a day from the ping list. I am using MaxBlogPress Ping Optimizer - If you haven't heard of it, I recommend it. Increased my hits expodentially. (0 to 500 in a week). No, hopefully the monetizing will bring in some funds.
Thanks for the encouraging words.

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bcagle

13 years ago

Hey, that is a great share! I also have content rich sites that I update regularly. I have just begun to monetize them. Am already averaging a couple of hundred hits a day from the ping list. I am using MaxBlogPress Ping Optimizer - If you haven't heard of it, I recommend it. Increased my hits exponentially. (0 to 500 in a week). No, hopefully the monetizing will bring in some funds.
Thanks for the encouraging words.