Autoblogging

14 years ago

Honestly, i am not a big fan of autoblogs, neither is G, why?
-Dupe content
-You only build a resting place diverting to various source sites
-Won't get much traffic (seriously, dont ask me the math)

Now if you still wish to go ahead, you may try WP-Robot, or other "free" plugins, just do a google.

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BudgetSEO

Honestly, i am not a big fan of autoblogs, neither is G, why?

Originally Posted by BudgetSEO

-Dupe content

This is not true, at least not in the way you most likely mean it. "Dupe content" (as you put it) refers to the same piece of content being on the same site more than once...it has nothing to do with syndicating or republishing content from other sites to an auto blog.

BIG misunderstanding here that often leads to many people not really knowing what misinformation they are spreading.

Originally Posted by BudgetSEO

-You only build a resting place diverting to various source sites

Once again...not true at all. My autoblogs are not a "resting place". I do send traffic to other sites sometimes (via the links I leave in the articles I post) but I do get a pretty fair amount of traffic that is more than happy to stay put on my site and read as well as click the links to my offers.

Originally Posted by BudgetSEO

-Won't get much traffic (seriously, dont ask me the math)
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Don't worry....I won't ask you "the math" because my guess is you would only spit out some ridiculous numbers based off of no meaningful experience at all anyway. My blogs get plenty of traffic and I know several other autobloggers that get plenty of traffic as well...

If you are saying this based off of your personal experience then my guess would be that you did it wrong....that's usually the case when it comes to auto haters.

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schttrj

14 years ago

Originally Posted by enSo

Autoblogs work if you do them right. I've had autoblogs get over 10k uniques daily. The trick is to make them look as legit as possible and make so that there's enough unique content to compensate for the duplicate.

If you have to submit as much unique content as you post syndicated content, then what's the use? Needless to say, those syndicated content may not be quality and also that they will tend to be in the supplemental pages most of the time, unless you are really high PR blog.

I am not really into auto blogging, but you must make sure that you get only syndicated content and NOT duplicate content.

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by schttrj

If you have to submit as much unique content as you post syndicated content, then what's the use? Needless to say, those syndicated content may not be quality and also that they will tend to be in the supplemental pages most of the time, unless you are really high PR blog.

I am not really into auto blogging, but you must make sure that you get only syndicated content and NOT duplicate content.

I'm not sure about others but I personally don't have to have a 50/50 split of syndicated / unique content to rank well. I don't even come close to 50/50...more like 80/20.

The syndicated (republished) content may not always rank well (although I have several posts that pop up outranking the original source) but it is certainly good for added info to a site, especially if it is quality content (well written, informative, on topic...etc).

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enSo

14 years ago

Autoblogs work if you do them right. I've had autoblogs get over 10k uniques daily. The trick is to make them look as legit as possible and make so that there's enough unique content to compensate for the duplicate.

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corsleymaxwell

14 years ago

I am actually using auto blog samurai and it is really very powerful. The only thing is it will cost you some dollars. But it is really very nice!

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Rsberg

14 years ago

A few tips:

Be sure to ONLY add quality content to your sites. If you build quality sites that look nice and offer value to the reader you should do fine.

As it was said earlier...add in some unique articles occasionally as well. This will help your blogs rankings and you can use it to tie the other types of content together, add value to your site as a whole and direct the reader to your offers. I personally do about an 80/20 split from auto to unique, sometimes more sometimes less depending on the niche and quality of available content.

Don't forget to work on your onsite and off site SEO...just like any other blog, this is very important. Don't get so wrapped up in the content that you forget about SEO.

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jayalaxmi Banned 14 years ago

whether is normal blogging or auto blogging we can make big money if we follow right strategy.you have to experiment yourself.
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- BacklinkExcellence 14 years ago
  
  Have to agree with Rsberg here, lots of misconceptions when it comes to autoblogs. What I do is to put up around 10-15 articles/salescopy that will be keyword targeted and attract the main portion of the site's traffic and handle the conversions. Either by having the article lead to the homepage (where an opt-in form is) or putting an optin right below the article.
  
  Those articles are set up as pages. Then I configure my autoblog plugins to post content as posts, mixing up the content so it looks nice (WP robot MIX feature) and let it post like 2-5 times a day.
  
  That will get the spiders crawling my site a lot more frequently since content gets published so often (make sure to use google xml sitemap plugin), potential competitors will be scared of my indexed pages count (since posts count as pages, obviously) and many of those autoblog posts automatically target longtails I would never have thought of so they bring in nice traffic as well which is being sent to an opt-in or whatever again.
  
  Works really well and you would wonder what kind of crappy, un-unique content you can have ranking highly on google. Just make sure it's readable and makes sense for your human visitors.
  
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glenns7

14 years ago

Hello Rsberg:

As an auto-blogger, I presume you have quite a number of auto-blogs. One of the tips your provided was to "add quality content". I agree w/ your 110% on that. You must have a super efficient system to update your sites with quality content, however, how do you manage that?

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by glenns7

Hello Rsberg:

As an auto-blogger, I presume you have quite a number of auto-blogs. One of the tips your provided was to "add quality content". I agree w/ your 110% on that. You must have a super efficient system to update your sites with quality content, however, how do you manage that?

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Glenn

Glenn,

I use my own software for this. When I schedule content to be posted it records all of the info for me...which blog it's scheduled to post to, how far out it's scheduled to drip feed and notifies me prior to the last posting so I know when to go back and add more content.

Before I had this I kept track of things on an Excell spreadsheet...a bit of a PITA but it did work.

Robert

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glenns7

14 years ago

Hi Robert:

Very cool. Thanks much for your info and tips on auto-blogging. With Google striving to "provide quality search results", and you providing value and quality content on your auto-blogs, I guess it debunks the idea that Google hates auto-blogs. And the fact that your auto-blog site is ranked higher than those that aren't auto-blogs ... that really makes a case for auto-blogs done right.

Thanks, again,

Glenn

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by glenns7

Hi Robert:

Very cool. Thanks much for your info and tips on auto-blogging. With Google striving to "provide quality search results", and you providing value and quality content on your auto-blogs, I guess it debunks the idea that Google hates auto-blogs. And the fact that your auto-blog site is ranked higher than those that aren't auto-blogs ... that really makes a case for auto-blogs done right.

Thanks, again,

Glenn

You're quite welcome Glenn!

I do believe that Google dislikes crappy/spammy sites but that's the key to successful autoblogging....building quality sites that offer value.

Please don't think autoblogging is "easy"...it's not. Then again, no IM method is easy. They all require hard work, testing, constant learning and a bit of ingenuity.

Having said that, once you find what works for you (with any form of IM) then it's my belief that the sky's the limit and you're only held back by your own level of determination and work ethic.

Best of luck!
Robert

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glenns7 14 years ago

Thanks a million, Robert!

Those that sell auto-blog software make it sound so easy ... "auto-build it and wait for passive income to start rolling in no time ..."

Like you implied, those will probably end up being spammy sites, which eventually will be downgraded/penalized.

I appreciate your take on how auto-blogs should be done ... the right way.

Glenn
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- Norma Rickman 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by glenns7
  
  Those that sell auto-blog software make it sound so easy ... "auto-build it and wait for passive income to start rolling in no time ..."
  
  Autoblogging is anything but passive if you do it right. This is a huge misconception. You still need to build back links from a number of sources, and keep checking which posts are getting the traffic in order to capitalize on that, just like with any other type of blog.
  
  If you think you can throw up an autoblog and just wait for your bank account to blow up with $$$, you are in for one rude surprise.
  
  And just because it's an autoblog doesn't mean it has to look hideous or be full of garbage, illegible content. You get what you pay for in terms of a good autoblgging plugin.
  
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paulie888

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Rsberg

A few tips:

Be sure to ONLY add quality content to your sites. If you build quality sites that look nice and offer value to the reader you should do fine.

As it was said earlier...add in some unique articles occasionally as well. This will help your blogs rankings and you can use it to tie the other types of content together, add value to your site as a whole and direct the reader to your offers. I personally do about an 80/20 split from auto to unique, sometimes more sometimes less depending on the niche and quality of available content.

Don't forget to work on your onsite and off site SEO...just like any other blog, this is very important. Don't get so wrapped up in the content that you forget about SEO.

This is the key that separates profitable autoblogs from junky ones. Don't think that just because it's an autoblog you can sit back and let the software do all the work for you - if you want your autoblogs to yield results, you'll still have to work at it. While autoblogging software will somewhat reduce your workload, it's far from automatic and you'll have to work at it consistently to get good results!

Paul

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LetsGoViral

14 years ago

Optimize for long tail keywords that nobody is aware of. Google doesn't favor autoblogs, so you will rank worse than other sites, but you will still be able to rank for long tails. Do at least basic backlinking and indexing campaigns for your autoblogs. Post around 4-6 posts a day at first. Increase with time.

I prefer to use mostly video content. Over time it has proven to work better. People like to watch videos more as well. And you aren't really stealing content, just embedding.

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LetsGoViral

Optimize for long tail keywords that nobody is aware of. Google doesn't favor autoblogs, so you will rank worse than other sites, but you will still be able to rank for long tails. Do at least basic backlinking and indexing campaigns for your autoblogs. Post around 4-6 posts a day at first. Increase with time.

Originally Posted by LetsGoViral

I prefer to use mostly video content. Over time it has proven to work better. People like to watch videos more as well. And you aren't really stealing content, just embedding.

Yet more misconceptions here....

1. "Google doesn't favor autoblogs"
2. "you will rank worse than other sites"
3. "And you aren't really stealing content, just embedding"

1. I must be extremely lucky (along with several others I talk to)...Google doesnt dislike my blogs, in fact I outrank a lot of unique content sites.

2. Addressed above in #1

3. This would imply that using other forms of content (besides video) IS stealing. As long as you are getting content from sources that allow it to be republished/syndicated (and following the applicable rules) then it isn't stealing at all. If you're getting it from somewhere that doesn't allow for this (or not following the rules) then you have more to worry about beyond appearing to steal.

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euphoria

14 years ago

Autoblogging can be very lucrative.

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TPFLegionaire

14 years ago

hi!

take a look at this thread:

http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...0-yay-nay.html

cheers!

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rmoore

14 years ago

Here is a thread that shows how one of my autoblogs was penalized by Google:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...uto-blogs.html

Not saying that autoblogging is bad, but just make sure that it isn't 100% of your business model.

-Rusty

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Regional Warrior

14 years ago

Originally Posted by rmoore

Here is a thread that shows how one of my autoblogs was penalized by Google:

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...uto-blogs.html

Not saying that autoblogging is bad, but just make sure that it isn't 100% of your business model.

-Rusty

Google will start killing the farm very soon, as Rusty says just make sure that it isn't 100% of your business model.

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Regional Warrior

Google will start killing the farm very soon, as Rusty says

Originally Posted by Regional Warrior

just make sure that it isn't 100% of your business model.

I've read thast thread and it's only one instance of one autoblog that lost some rank, it could be the "dance", it could be some minor change the OP made in content posting... no one knows what the real reason is for things like this. Also, no one else has reported drops like this with their autoblogs. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on that train just yet.

If every site that suddenly lost rank was somehow an example or was linked to this new algo change then all of a sudden Google would be on the hunt for ALL websites...

Sorry but that's hardly absolute proof of anything other than the fact that all sites (not just autoblogs) bounce around in the rankings unexplainably.

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Regional Warrior

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Rsberg

I've read thast thread and it's only one instance of one autoblog that lost some rank, it could be the "dance", it could be some minor change the OP made in content posting... no one knows what the real reason is for things like this. Also, no one else has reported drops like this with their autoblogs. I wouldn't be so quick to jump on that train just yet.

If every site that suddenly lost rank was somehow an example or was linked to this new algo change then all of a sudden Google would be on the hunt for ALL websites...

Sorry but that's hardly absolute proof of anything other than the fact that all sites (not just autoblogs) bounce around in the rankings unexplainably.

The reply had nothing to do with the Google dance! the big G is going to kill off all the blog farms , somewhere on the thread there is a link to what is going to happen if not google it

the day of dup content is over and anyone would be mad to try and do that now

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Regional Warrior

The reply had nothing to do with the Google dance! the big G is going to kill off all the blog farms , somewhere on the thread there is a link to what is going to happen if not google it the day of dup content is over and anyone would be mad to try and do that now

I've seen the threads here about the algo change (many of them over the past 2 months actually), I've also read the blog posts by the great and wonderful OZ himself (Googles very own Matt Cutts), I've also been involved in many discussions here and other forums about the Google Algo change and what (if any) affects it will have on QUALITY autoblogs and thin, poor quality autoblogs...

The point I am trying to make is that it's not new news. I still think that one single report of one single autoblog losing rank isn't something to stir panic in the masses with. I wouldn't run right over to flippa and sell off all your autoblogs for pennies on the dollar just yet either.

Unless you haven't been paying attention the "content farms" (not "blog farms"...BIG difference) that have been affected by the aglo change are sites like Ezine articles (who took a huge hit in rank drop), not autoblogs, at least not well crafted quality autoblogs.

I've also heard several reports (through threads here and other forums as well) that several sites with entirely unique content have dropped dramatically in the ranks with the change as well...I think there were 3 or 4 of these threads here in the last few days alone.

In the end neither of us can say for sure that one autoblog dropping some rank is or isn't due to the algo change and Google targeting autoblogs.

Now, having said that...

It stands to reason (and dang sure makes more sense) that the particular example given in that thread was the "Dance" and not the algo change and here is why...

If it were the algo change then why haven't we heard mass outcry from all of the autobloggers around the world? Why didn't the OP of that thread say that all his autoblogs were hit and suffered rank drop instead of just the one?

I pride myself on creating quality autoblogs but at the same time I would be the first to admit if they were to bite the dust. I haven't heard ANY other reports from ANY other autobloggers about their sites losing rank (other than the typical bouncing around that happens with ALL sites).

So...

Was it the dreaded algo change that laser targeted this one sole autoblog from the OPs self admitted stable/farm of autoblogs, yet left all of his other sites completely alone...or does it make more sense that maybe, just maybe there was some small change (insignificant to us but big to Google) to the site that caused the drop or possibly it's the same old Google Dance that we all know and love?

I ask you...what makes more sense?

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ScottTrimble

14 years ago

I see Robert (Rsberg) is already on this thread so I won't barge in. There are a bunch of threads on the matter and I already gave a plan of action if you want to have any success with autoblogging. If you're not going to search around you won't find anything. Meanwhile, listen to what Rsberg has to say.

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by ScottTrimble

I see Robert (Rsberg) is already on this thread so I won't barge in. There are a bunch of threads on the matter and I already gave a plan of action if you want to have any success with autoblogging. If you're not going to search around you won't find anything. Meanwhile, listen to what Rsberg has to say.

I appreciate the compliment but please don't let my being here keep you from "barging in"...

Your input is quite welcome here Scott.

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tsuccess

14 years ago

I was wondering about some of those answers as well.
Thanks for the thread.

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Michael Forey

14 years ago

Yes, everyone please keep believing autoblogs don't work, so I have less competition

The paid plugins I use are:

autopress - content. Similar to WP robot but cheaper. Both are good
Auto Backlink Creator - check for the WSO
WP spin - uses the best spinner to spin (and still be readable)
WP Syndicator - backlinks

I think a lot of people "kill" there autoblog by publishing too much to quickly. Remenber the pattern you want to have is random. Buy an aged domain and you can post a little more quickly.

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Resale Rights Ninja

14 years ago

Thanks for all of the replies. It sure is awesome being a part of this forum. I actually just bought another six domains that I am going to set up as autoblogs to further entrench myself in my niche. I live IM!

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Furyx2

14 years ago

I have an AIM autoblog that I got from being a part of stephen pierces courses. I think it works pretty well. I'm wondering how it compares to wp-robot though.

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mesen

14 years ago

great information guys

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Tony Marriott

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

I am just starting to build a network of autoblogs. Anyone do any autoblogging. Have any plugins or services you really like? Any tips? Do your autoblogs get any traffic? Has it been profitable? I made a couple autoblogs a while back using rss and they sucked. No traffic at all, but my manual blogs that I rarely update do awesome. What do ya figure?

Let me say out of the gate -I am NOT an anti autoblogger... in fact quite the opposite

but if you do well with manual blogs it would seem a good idea to ramp up what you are already doing well rather than trying to start something that you've tried and had little success with.

Either way, the very best of luck

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TZ

14 years ago

You just have to make sure you know who to find good feeds, and you need to have a global word and phrase rewriting function.

Our autoblogs are doing amazingly well, and our customers are happy too.

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FreeBird85

14 years ago

you guys who are successful with autoblogs, does the majority of your revenue come from adsense?

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Rsberg 14 years ago

Originally Posted by FreeBird85

you guys who are successful with autoblogs, does the majority of your revenue come from adsense?

Nope...most of my autoblog money comes from affiliate sales.
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TZ

14 years ago

Most of my money comes from Adsense and Chitika - some aff.

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sarahberra

14 years ago

I have 4 autoblogs, but I'm stepping things up quite a bit next month. The 4 that I am working on are in the gardening niche. I still have a lot to learn. It's hard to find the time to learn new things, but I am making it work slowly.

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sarahberra

I have 4 autoblogs, but I'm stepping things up quite a bit next month. The 4 that I am working on are in the gardening niche. I still have a lot to learn. It's hard to find the time to learn new things, but I am making it work slowly.

Thats a good niche to be in.

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glenns7 14 years ago

Hello Sarahberra:

Sounds good! Looking forward to your success!

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Lyanna

14 years ago

The syndicated (republished) content may not always rank well (although I have several posts that pop up outranking the original source) but it is certainly good for added info to a site, especially if it is quality content (well written, informative, on topic...etc).

Republished? Do you link back to the original source? Sorry, newbie here.

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rickytorson 14 years ago

I think it would be done this way. I think a lot of people "kill" there autoblog by publishing too much to quickly. Remenber the pattern you want to have is random. Buy an aged domain and you can post a little more quickly.
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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Lyanna

Republished? Do you link back to the original source? Sorry, newbie here.

No worries, we were all newbies once, better to ask and learn than not.

Yes, I always link back to the original source when possible. Republished is just another way of saying syndicated, sorry about the confusion.

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Lyanna

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Rsberg

No worries, we were all newbies once, better to ask and learn than not.

Yes, I always link back to the original source when possible. Republished is just another way of saying syndicated, sorry about the confusion.

Thanks, Robert. That actually sounds good to me. I believe I even do something similar except I do it manually. When I see a great essay or resource I often post about it on my blog although I normally only excerpt 30-60% of it. I link back to the original source, too. However, I don't just post it as is. I put in an introduction or summary of the content and why I think it is worth reading.

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lamberw

14 years ago

I give a much more in depth review of autoblogging at this blog post.

The Profit Share | Autoblogging: What, Why, How?

Feel free to ask questions at the end of the post.

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George Katsoudas

14 years ago

Both autoblogging and "authority blogging" can work, when done right.

No need to get dogmatic or "absolute" about one or the other.

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Achillies

14 years ago

Great thread, is it possible to clone sites and auto-blog the same content on each clone or would I need to drip feed different content onto each clone differently?

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Rsberg

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Achillies

Great thread, is it possible to clone sites and auto-blog the same content on each clone or would I need to drip feed different content onto each clone differently?

It can be done but I'm not sure why you would want to?

It would be better to mix the content up across the sites. If these are new sites you wouldn't want to automatically dump a bunch of content onto them at one time anyway so drip feeding them would be better. This allows the sites to grow gradually and appear more real since most bloggers would be posting only a few new posts per day (sometimes only one) and not a bunch of posts all at once.

If you have multiple sites within the same niche that your thinking of putting the same content on I would be sure to mix the content up a little if you can. Having 2 sites that look like exact clones of each other with the only difference being the URL...well...I'm not sure I see the point in that when you could simply target multiple keywords for one site instead of individual keywords for multiple sites....unless I am missing something here?

Hope that helps.
Robert

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Mike McAleer

14 years ago

I hate autoblogs because they are not attractive when I visit them. It is almost like I can tell that they are autoblogs. IF you want to do them for adsense, then so be it but it is up to you.

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TZ

14 years ago

Originally Posted by FreshDomains

I hate autoblogs because they are not attractive when I visit them. It is almost like I can tell that they are autoblogs. IF you want to do them for adsense, then so be it but it is up to you.

AB can look wonderful and they can pass the Adsense TOS too. There is allot of misinformation out there these days on autoblogs.

I've posted this screen shot elsewhere, so this is the last time I'm doing it. This is the results so far since the Farmer update from Google on our Autoblogs.

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masterjani

14 years ago

Use autoblogging to get traffic and it is useful for affiliate sales.But Don't try adsense because of duplicate content might be site is sandboxed.

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phpnetpro

14 years ago

Others have already said it, but I can't resist saying it again.

Please reconsider building autoblogs, because there is simply no future in it.

What good is an internet filled with duplicate content?

Most people are out to find an easy (ie, lazy) way to make money online. The so-called "gurus" want you to believe that it is possible, because it is a great dream to try to sell you. However, the truth of the matter is that most of that tactics only generate internet garbage, which is ultimately useless.

Consider this: Why go through the trouble of creating a lot of sites that a real person wouldn't want to visit?

Put the time and effort into building unique and useful content. These actions will truly reward you for your work and they will continue to do so for a long time to come.

Yes, I believe there are some lazy ways to make a quick buck online, but I don't believe that ANY of these ways offer any kind of long-term stability. I have been making a living online for over 15 years and I can promise you that quality will ALWAYS win over quantity.

I build high quality niche websites that get hundreds of unique visitors per day (each) and easily convert the traffic into sales. Show me an autoblog that is doing that

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Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

I am just starting to build a network of autoblogs. Anyone do any autoblogging. Have any plugins or services you really like? Any tips? Do your autoblogs get any traffic? Has it been profitable? I made a couple autoblogs a while back using rss and they sucked. No traffic at all, but my manual blogs that I rarely update do awesome. What do ya figure?

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Rsberg

14 years ago