"Offer One Page Websites to Businesses for Free" Anyone Know of This Method?

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Hello Warriors,

There is a method of offering to build websites for businesses for free, by sending them though an affiliate link to sign up for your hosting company...


I read briefly about it, but can't seem to find the info on it any longer

Does anyone have a ebook or more info on this?

Thank you very much!

Dano~
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    I've heard about the method, but I don't believe that it is the most efficient.

    If you're offering web design to local businesses, you could also offer SEO, google places set up, tons and tons of different things and get PAID for it, and STILL have them sign up through your affiliate link. LOL.
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      • Profile picture of the author mike gregory
        Originally Posted by greggreg View Post

        I agree and correct me if Im wrong these hosting providers pay out 100 or less and dont offer residual income. Doesn't sound worth it imo for the amount of work.
        The work load really is not that much once you get a system in place, your correct hostgator for example only pay a one time commission 21 sign-ups to hostgator will make $2,625 a month. They have a plan if you bring in 21+ a month they will pay $125 per sign up.

        But what the real goal here is once you have a new client you can then offer further services on the back end.

        Now you have created them a site they are much more inclined to take your additional services such as website development, SEO, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author O0o0O
    I've heard of a similar method. It's not really free for them because they have to pay for the hosting, so the trick is to just tell them that the website is free, and when you finish the website, hopefully they will be so excited about it that they won't hesitate to sign up for the $5.99 per month hosting plan, or something similar.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kvn
      I have heard people doing the same method. But don't stop there.

      Create a video explaining the benefits of SEO, social media marketing, video marketing etc and send it to them.

      Let them know how much more profits they can make with their website by doing this and offer those services.
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  • Profile picture of the author GaryBurke
    Mike filsaime did a webinar on it called the Franchise Model.
    here is the replay url http://www.the-profit-platform.com/webinar/replay
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  • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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    Something that has worked for me is;

    1) Register an "EGO" Domain - a Domain that appeals to a business owners "Ego"! Ex: TacomasBestChiropractor.com or ChiropractorTacoma.com or ChiropractorInTacoma.com
    2) Create a 1-page "generic" site for that type of biz.
    3) Email 10 businesses in that category and tell them this site and domain are "For Rent"....$150 One-Time Set Up and $150 per mo for 3 mos ($600) then $150/mo thereafter until cancelled.

    You could go with $150 + $150 (1st mo) for $300 initially, then $150/mo thereafter.

    There may be a WSO about this. Search for "Renting Websites" or "Leasing Websites" or "Website Rental".

    Midas Man
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    • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
      thank you guys!

      If I was good as SEO, I would be offering SEO
      I can't even do seo myself much less offer it as a service, and have no desire to do "other things"

      So I want to stick with the basic

      "I'll build a one page website for you for free"


      and have them purchase a domain and hosting through my link and I will build a "simple one page site" for them...

      This is what I've read, and honestly if I find something that "I can get behind the method" I don't want to try to "deviate" because all that does is "murk" the waters for me, and throw in a new "learning curve", pulls me in different directions, and causing me to drop it all together...

      So only this method if you know please! (soory it has to be free info, can't afford a "purchase" at the moment! hard times you know!)

      I don't want to "drop things" if anyone has any "talking points" (probably more like "email exchange points" I'm definitely open to listening as it's the "questions" and how to "respond" that are generally at the heart of what I need to proceed and get that last piece of the "comfort, move ahead" piece of the puzzle

      so if anyone has any specifics? (please don't send me to a "make a website" ebook, or something not specifically related) thanks!

      Danni~
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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi Danni,

        What kind of business do you think is going to be interested in a one page website from you?

        Even if you do manage to locate this 'method', you need to know who your target market is.

        Bearing in mind your stated skillset, lack of funds and (seemingly) experience, I think you may find it difficult.

        It really would be better to learn some more skills in order that you can offer a more professional service which isn't designed purely to gain a hosting affiliate commission. Most business owners are only still in business because they have business smarts - in other words, they will probably see through this and therefore you could struggle.

        If you have business smarts yourself, then you really should be able to work out this 'method' - basically, you need to give them a reason to want this website, one that's based around them benefitting from having it.

        If you don't know how to optimise a website, what do you know? How to build a direct response page, a squeeze page, a lead generation page? If you don't know these things, how are you going to ask the right questions which will provide the information you need in order to sell this idea to them (based around the type of site they require)?

        Even if something is free (which it's actually not in this case), you still have to sell it. Most people learn their skills by building sites for themselves and then later on when they understand what they are doing they might approach businesses.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dano1981
          Rat,

          that was really nice and thoughtful and I appreciate it!
          I always find more value in lengthier posts that brief ones

          In my case I know what works for me, and what doesn't

          and this is something I can work with....without going into detail, suffice to say I'm not an open book looking for someone to "redirect me" instead I am trying to learn some specifics about this method

          Yes I'm trying to do other things and learning other ways of SEO and such as I try to get traffic to my blogs. But I very much like this particular method, and want to focus the purpose of this thread in that direction

          so I'm looking for "an elaboration of details" in this particluar method the lead generation is by ads or word of mouth once you have customers...my background is the business world and dealing with gatekeeper and decision makers so I feel right at home with the method... it's the "rhetoric" that occurs between "them and me" the "questions" whose answers I need to know as I can see the questions that would be thrown at me already, and I'm sure someone already knows the "poiint counterpoint" I guess you could say is more along the lines of what I need

          how to address the typical "questions/objections" and or points that require "nudging" and some mild "convincing/clarification" in order to "answer: most of the question that would ordinarily leave me tongue tied

          and I know there are those who have used or use this specific method, so that's who I'm trying to reach out to, or at least a method very close in nature

          My compensation would be the aff sign-ups with the hosting company. I do not want to charge anything beyond that at this point.

          Sorry I didn't mean to seem like such an "open slate" I'm determined girl


          Danni~

          Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

          Hi Danni,

          What kind of business do you think is going to be interested in a one page website from you?

          Even if you do manage to locate this 'method', you need to know who your target market is.

          Bearing in mind your stated skillset, lack of funds and (seemingly) experience, I think you may find it difficult.

          It really would be better to learn some more skills in order that you can offer a more professional service which isn't designed purely to gain a hosting affiliate commission. Most business owners are only still in business because they have business smarts - in other words, they will probably see through this and therefore you could struggle.

          If you have business smarts yourself, then you really should be able to work out this 'method' - basically, you need to give them a reason to want this website, one that's based around them benefitting from having it.

          If you don't know how to optimise a website, what do you know? How to build a direct response page, a squeeze page, a lead generation page? If you don't know these things, how are you going to ask the right questions which will provide the information you need in order to sell this idea to them (based around the type of site they require)?

          Even if something is free (which it's actually not in this case), you still have to sell it. Most people learn their skills by building sites for themselves and then later on when they understand what they are doing they might approach businesses.
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      • Profile picture of the author blue_sky
        Originally Posted by Dano1981 View Post

        so if anyone has any specifics? (please don't send me to a "make a website" ebook, or something not specifically related) thanks!
        What specifics do you need??
        I assume you know how to do basic html or are able to setup a blog.

        Now make a list of services you are able to offer for free and write a small half page salesletter! Go to Kinko (or whatever copyshop is in your area and get a couple of them printed)

        Take your mini salesletters and post them on blackboards, community boards, lamp posts, windshields, mailboxes, approach local business owners, churches, sport clubs etc etc...

        Spent a weekend doing this and see how far it will get you - maybe you will find clients or maybe not, maybe this will lead to different things/opportunities

        After you found your first clients, ask for a testimonial and put it on the salesletter ask for referrals etc..
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        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
          Hi,

          Interesting thread. I've learnt a lot from it. Thanks to many of you for helping me to make an important decision.
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        • Profile picture of the author Brian Alaway
          Both the affiliate and the reseller models seem to have their pros and cons. If you go the affiliate route, how do you tie the freebie to the click? i.e. how do you verify someone actually bought through your link?
          Coupons can guarantee your click/commission but don't think they can be tied to who actually clicked. Or am I missing something obvious? Wouldn't be the first time
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          • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
            Originally Posted by Brian Alaway View Post

            Both the affiliate and the reseller models seem to have their pros and cons. If you go the affiliate route, how do you tie the freebie to the click? i.e. how do you verify someone actually bought through your link?
            Coupons can guarantee your click/commission but don't think they can be tied to who actually clicked. Or am I missing something obvious? Wouldn't be the first time
            You can see it when it happens. The host keeps a log.
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            • Profile picture of the author Brian Alaway
              Originally Posted by Jeremy S View Post

              You can see it when it happens. The host keeps a log.
              Could you be more specific, which log? HG says no but they could just be overly cautious due to privacy issues?
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    • Profile picture of the author J Bold
      Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

      Something that has worked for me is;

      1) Register an "EGO" Domain - a Domain that appeals to a business owners "Ego"! Ex: TacomasBestChiropractor.com or ChiropractorTacoma.com or ChiropractorInTacoma.com
      2) Create a 1-page "generic" site for that type of biz.
      3) Email 10 businesses in that category and tell them this site and domain are "For Rent"....$150 One-Time Set Up and $150 per mo for 3 mos ($600) then $150/mo thereafter until cancelled.

      You could go with $150 + $150 (1st mo) for $300 initially, then $150/mo thereafter.

      There may be a WSO about this. Search for "Renting Websites" or "Leasing Websites" or "Website Rental".

      Midas Man

      Ya that's a great Midas Man and seems to have worked for some Warriors in the past.

      The other way I've heard is just to do that but just sell the domain, rather than trying to rent it.

      But I imagine both ways could be effective and profitable.
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    • Profile picture of the author phoenix2010
      Is this still working for you ?
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      • Profile picture of the author c0ppertantrum
        Got a PM from Don- couldn't reply (even though I had typed a ton of great info)

        Yes, I am using WEEBLY as the 'free site' as is discussed in this and other threads.
        Weebly does not have it's own Autoresponder or SEO packs. It does have templates and for anyone who may be thinking of using Homeseatd, I don't know. I've never used them before.

        Weebly has a click and drag function. I actually learned about them a few years ago from someone else (not John Durham) on this very site!

        If you can read, you can make a website. You get a ton of sites for free- some I pay for, (take ownership by assigning my own domain name) but that is just Go Daddy's cost, not Weebly. I also upgraded with Weebly a long time ago and pay a small fee yearly I think.

        I say go check them out if you like free AND easy. It may not have the functionality of WP but I have been building my sites for sometime now and have had the opportunity to learn along the way.

        Hope this helps you out Don!
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    If you have a resellers' account with your hosting company, you can host the domain on your server and get the $5.99 per month for hosting, behind the free web page.

    This is a channel that many people pursue to work with small offline businesses.

    Honestly, you could do the affiliate programs on hosting, but you are asking them to figure out the how of hosting, and for many that would be a huge step.

    You should try to simplify the process for them.

    In reality, the big money in this promotion is not the hosting fees or affiliate commissions, but the back end services you can offer them.

    You give them the free one-page website and free hosting on a sub-domain for one-year. They can always upgrade to a domain, and you can host their domain for them for the hosting fee each month. Or you can waive hosting for one year, to keep them in your funnel.

    The important thing is to get them into your funnel with free offers, so you can sell them back-end services. One of the most profitable back-end services is SEO, even if you just outsource the basics to others.

    For example, if you shop around, you can find plenty of services that would help a local provider improve their rankings.

    Most people offer the back-end SEO for $200 per month, but depending on your client, and depending on the real commitment you have to delivering customers to their offline business, your outsourced work should cost you $200 per month.

    As long as you understand what you can do with SEO from the outsourcing standpoint, you will understand how you can give your customers real value, while making sure you can do so profitably.

    Another upsell for you is customizing their website to their specs.

    Another upsell is managing their mailing list for them, which can be done suitably through aweber.

    Actually, I would be surprised if you cannot find more information about this in the Offline Marketing Discussions.

    There are so many ways to crack this nut, if you have the willingness to get on the phone and start contacting prospects in your local area.

    Most of your best customers will not be looking for you, nor will they realize they could use your help. So you must put your best foot forward to offer them the free website and put them into your sales funnel.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      If you have a resellers' account with your hosting company, you can host the domain on your server and get the $5.99 per month for hosting, behind the free web page.

      This is a channel that many people pursue to work with small offline businesses.

      Honestly, you could do the affiliate programs on hosting, but you are asking them to figure out the how of hosting, and for many that would be a huge step.

      You should try to simplify the process for them.

      In reality, the big money in this promotion is not the hosting fees or affiliate commissions, but the back end services you can offer them.

      You give them the free one-page website and free hosting on a sub-domain for one-year. They can always upgrade to a domain, and you can host their domain for them for the hosting fee each month. Or you can waive hosting for one year, to keep them in your funnel.

      The important thing is to get them into your funnel with free offers, so you can sell them back-end services. One of the most profitable back-end services is SEO, even if you just outsource the basics to others.

      For example, if you shop around, you can find plenty of services that would help a local provider improve their rankings.

      Most people offer the back-end SEO for $200 per month, but depending on your client, and depending on the real commitment you have to delivering customers to their offline business, your outsourced work should cost you $200 per month.

      As long as you understand what you can do with SEO from the outsourcing standpoint, you will understand how you can give your customers real value, while making sure you can do so profitably.

      Another upsell for you is customizing their website to their specs.

      Another upsell is managing their mailing list for them, which can be done suitably through aweber.

      Actually, I would be surprised if you cannot find more information about this in the Offline Marketing Discussions.

      There are so many ways to crack this nut, if you have the willingness to get on the phone and start contacting prospects in your local area.

      Most of your best customers will not be looking for you, nor will they realize they could use your help. So you must put your best foot forward to offer them the free website and put them into your sales funnel.
      Getting offline seems like a good way to go these days...

      I am currently only doing online because I don't like calling prospects.

      I guess you could hire someone to make the phone calls for you?
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Mike McAleer View Post

        Getting offline seems like a good way to go these days...

        I am currently only doing online because I don't like calling prospects.

        I guess you could hire someone to make the phone calls for you?

        Why not? I know several people here on the forum who run a sales team to sell their services to offline businesses.

        If not phone calls, try post card mailings. Or classified ads in the local paper. Or radio spots.

        Regardless of the method, you should have someone answering a phone for people who would prefer to call. Give people the choice of learning about your service on your website or by phone with a person.

        I find that I close well if I answer the phone myself.

        I despise cold-calling, but if they call me, I am happy to talk to anyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Turner
    If you have a resellers' account with your hosting company, you can host the domain on your server and get the $5.99 per month for hosting, behind the free web page.

    This is a channel that many people pursue to work with small offline businesses.

    Honestly, you could do the affiliate programs on hosting, but you are asking them to figure out the how of hosting, and for many that would be a huge step.

    You should try to simplify the process for them.
    Yes I do exactly this for smal business
    tho stil charge for name, hosting -
    The people who will buy this are those who are on the fence about getting a website.
    So I use it as a downsell when new business owners tell me they need more time to think about a website proposal.
    Set it up in wordpress and tell 'em they can add/edit - some will come back later and get a full site done
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    • Profile picture of the author Doug Wakefield
      The method is simple, and you know the steps. I read something on it and it was a nice angle at the situation. Like Bill mentions, you will probably be better off selling the hosting yourself... and you can probably get more than the price they would pay the hosting company from them (on top of being able to sell them services as well.)

      The gist of your method is that you are working primarily for the hosting commission and not so much for anything else. I debated doing something like this (set up a site) and was going to go with a squeeze page to get the information, as well as to give them the details on how to set things up for me. This way I could market to them on the back end much easier (either my services, or guides on how to do it themselves). I never did anything with it, but don't really plan on getting rid of the site... it may yet come in handy.

      I don't care for cold calling myself, but do have a few people I work for occasionally. I have been in talks with a local band about setting things up for them, I think this would be a fun one to do... though the money I could get might not really be that great.
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      • Profile picture of the author QuickSurf
        Seems like a lot of work without offering other services, at 5.95 a client per month... even if you got 100 clients which would still be quite hard for this method as I know others that went this route thinking they'd be able to get dozens of clients a day... it's still less then 600 a month, thats a lot of work for just that.

        Look into offering other services even if outsourced.
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        • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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          Holy Schamoly! All you people so concerned about "cold Calling"!

          Here it is in a nutshell'

          ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
          1) Grab an EGO Domain for a "Big-Ticket" Niche (Roofers, Dentists, House Painters, Plumbers, Electricians)....businesses that charge a HEFTY FEE for their product or service (not Beauty Salons)
          Example is; RooferTacoma.com, TacomasBestDentist.com, TacomaHousePainter.com, TacomasBestPlumber.com

          2) Make up a Generic "Squeeze-Page" site with Benefits on the left and a "Capture" Form on the right (Include a nice Header Graphic for that niche)

          3) Send an email to 10 biznesses in that Niche saying;
          "Subject"..."I've created a Website for YOU!"
          Then when they open the message;
          "I've created a website for "Roofers" that WILL bring YOU...more business! However, only ONE Roofer in the "Tacoma" area can have it! It's ONLY AVAILABLE TO THE FIRST ROOFER WHO WANTS IT! This message has been sent to TEN (10) Roofers in the "Tacoma" area! Click the Link below for more info!
          +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

          Now....when you get responses....thank them for their interest and give them a Link to your site....where your Fee is shown ($500 SetUp and $147/mo for 3 mos ($441 + $500 = $941)

          This is NOT about "SEO" stuff. It's about appealing to the EGO of biz owners in that Niche AND...getting LEADS for them...when consumers type in "TacomasBestRoofer.com"

          Sell Leads not a "Magnificent website designed by Christian Dior!"

          Don Alm...Midas Man
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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    I've used this method a lot in the past. I don't offer 1 page websites though. I offer full SEOed webpages for free. Business owners will call me directly and I explain that I will create their website for free (5 pages...they send me the information for each page). Each website was just one of 5 templates I created that can easily be customized with company images. I tell them to have a website up it costs a yearly fee for hosting. I explain this is required for any website...

    Then from there I would upsell social media, further SEO campaigns, extra charge for optin added to website, and email marketing plans. This is a great way to get the doors open with business owners who need IM services.

    The affiliate link to hosting would just be an extra profit stream out of the system. I wouldn't rely on it as the only source of income. You can make so much more out of this.
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    • Profile picture of the author theantihype
      ^^ I've used Don's method. It is a lot of work / risk for SMALL payouts. You really have to do a ton of these for it to become profitable.

      Quick note: Profit = money made above expenses. Your time is an expense... if your hourly is $50, and it takes 10 hours to build a website + another $50 for domain and yearly hosting, you're already $550 into it, before lead acquisition and your monthly SEO costs. [/note]

      Also, if you've ever done offline marketing, then you will know that people are finicky. Some web builds you might sale through, while others you'll face tons of revisions. People won't want to pay for this, and will likely try to cancel if you try to get them to pay. This is largely because you are going after the cheapskate clients!

      Anyhow, a different model of this is to build the site to your specifications and get it ranked. Network with 10 local businesses. Sell leads directly to them from your website. $5-10 per lead. Convert and get paid. 'nuff said.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingPro11
    Originally Posted by Dano1981 View Post

    Hello Warriors,

    There is a method of offering to build websites for businesses for free, by sending them though an affiliate link to sign up for your hosting company...


    I read briefly about it, but can't seem to find the info on it any longer

    Does anyone have a ebook or more info on this?

    Thank you very much!

    Dano~
    Hi Dano,
    This method is very simple yet very effective and if you can get steady supply of leads,you can make quite a bank.

    The method goes something like you go to Craigslist or use Google places and Yellow pages to find offline businesses who don't yet have a presence on the internet but want to get a website.

    These people will easily follow your recommendations in exchange of getting a site.As far as the website creation is concerned,you can always get away with a wordpress blog or hire a freelancer to build basic websites.

    Actually offering people free websites is only the beginning.Next you can offer SEO services to these businesses and charge them a monthly fees to keep their sites on the top of search results.

    Certain businesses and professionals like the Dentists,Attorneys and chiropractors will willingly pay you $500-$2000 per month to get their website appearing in the first couple pages of search results for the related keywords in their local area.

    Then you can offer them e-mail marketing and PPC management services and charge even more.

    This business model is very lucrative and highly scalable.How much you succeed with this business depends on your ability to find interested prospects and convince them to opt for your services.The best thing is that this business is fully outsourciable and you can automate it with a 3-4 virtual assistants.

    I know a couple of guys who are making six figures a month just by offering the above mentioned services to the local business.In fact,there is more money in this business than the traditional internet marketing and your income potential is only limited by your imagination.

    Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Qamar
    This is a very high potential business model. I am planning to advertise in my local paper for a FREE One Page website service for business owners. For now, I will only focus on giving away free website to first 30 callers and in return they have to buy their own domain name and hosting thru my affiliate link.

    I believe, it is not a problem for business owners to pay a one time domain name that cost only USD10 and for hosting that cost USD7 per month. Basically, they only have to pay USD 17 to get a website online!

    If I really get 30 callers within one month, my potential profits from Hostgator affiliate program will be USD125 x 30 = $3750 and that is excluding commission I will be getting from Namecheap affiliate program.

    I have done my homework and realized that there are many small and medium businesses who does bot have any websites yet, so if I can get my ads seen by them, chances are 30 clients will be very easy to attain within a period of one month.

    Once I have finished with this projects, in a month or so, I will start to offer these same customers for a more complete website and charge them somewhere from $299-599 which is much cheaper from the market price. Of course I will get these projects outsource.

    My opinion on this is to "forget" about seo and other services first. Focus to get as many customers to grab the FREE One page website first. Do a good one for them so that they will be impressed and can see the real value if they were to purchase a complete website in the future. We can always follow up with them with other offers in the future and the offer are literally endless....



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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Qamar,

      This is a very high potential business model.
      What are you basing that statement upon?

      I believe, it is not a problem for business owners to pay a one time domain name that cost only USD10 and for hosting that cost USD7 per month. Basically, they only have to pay USD 17 to get a website online!
      You're right that it's not a problem, but there's a lot more wrong that's with this approach.

      If I really get 30 callers within one month, my potential profits from Hostgator affiliate program will be USD125 x 30 = $3750 and that is excluding commission I will be getting from Namecheap affiliate program.
      Except the important part - it will take some time to get this revenue and in the meantime you are dealing with 30 new clients with all of the expense that goes with that. Are you stopping after one month, or getting 30 new clients in the second month - because you still won't have those payments after just one month, especially if you don't get every single one of them clicking through the links on the first day of the month.

      I have done my homework and realized that there are many small and medium businesses who does bot have any websites yet, so if I can get my ads seen by them, chances are 30 clients will be very easy to attain within a period of one month.
      Can I ask, is this based on experience of going out and getting 30 new offline business clients in a month, or is this based on what it looks like on paper?

      How are you planning to communicate with these businesses? Email, telephone, in person?

      How are you going to deal with peripheral issues, for example - most decent sized companies require proper invoicing for their accounts department, and 1001 other things that take time, money and effort.

      Once I have finished with this projects, in a month or so, I will start to offer these same customers for a more complete website and charge them somewhere from $299-599 which is much cheaper from the market price. Of course I will get these projects outsource.
      Do you have experience of outsourcing things like this? Do you realise how problematic it is when the client deals directly with you, therefore whenever they want slight changes made it involves three different parties all communicating, with the person in the middle (you) being able to decipher what either party really wants? Multiply this by thirty and it gets really complex.

      My opinion on this is to "forget" about seo and other services first.
      So they're likely to be upsold on a bigger/better website, even though their shiny new one page website has achieved 0 traffic?

      Focus to get as many customers to grab the FREE One page website first. Do a good one for them so that they will be impressed and can see the real value if they were to purchase a complete website in the future.
      Can you expand on what you mean by 'do a good one so that they will be impressed' - in terms of a one page website?

      Contrary to popular opinion, I don't like being negative unless I'm doing it constructively to help someone - in this case, it's anyone reading this.

      The way this is written is like a typical salesletter - all of the difficult stuff is glossed over or ignored and it's written using verbage which seeks to minimalise everything that's impossible to minimalise in reality -

      EG - 'the offers are literally endless.'

      Please explain how/why they are 'literally endless'?
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      • Profile picture of the author Qamar
        What are you basing that statement upon?

        I am giving FREE one page website to any business owners who are running small businesses such as neighborhood food stall owners, neighborhood barbers,carpenters,plumbers, painters etc. These people are aware of the existence of the internet but they are not internet savvy, so they need people like me to assist them with the online things. Furthermore, this website is FREE, don't tell me it is hard to give away something that is FREE to people who might need them?

        You're right that it's not a problem, but there's a lot more wrong that's with this approach.

        Care to tell me what's wrong with giving away FREE items on the front end in the view of generating leads so that you can sell them services over and over again?

        Except the important part - it will take some time to get this revenue and in the meantime you are dealing with 30 new clients with all of the expense that goes with that. Are you stopping after one month, or getting 30 new clients in the second month - because you still won't have those payments after just one month, especially if you don't get every single one of them clicking through the links on the first day of the month.

        I don't see any problems with forking out a little bit of expenses in order to generate leads for my business. In case you didn't know, I am planning to do all this services for FREE only via emails and telephones.
        In the event these business owners need my assistant to walk them through the purchasing of domain names and hosting accounts, I will be charging them $40 for transportation fees. More often than not, they will need me to come down to do that for them as they are not internet savvy and it is here that I will have my cash flow to cover my advertisements and time.

        Can I ask, is this based on experience of going out and getting 30 new offline business clients in a month, or is this based on what it looks like on paper?

        I have checked in my local business directories that they are literally hundreds if not thousands of small businesses who does not have any website of their own yet. Don't tell me it is hard to call them to offer FREE websites? Do you find it difficult? I personally don't. Out of the few hundreds or thousands business owners, I will quit marketing totally if I cannot give away a decent one page websites to at least 30 people! within one month. I will walk to their office if I have to and most of them are only a couple of kilometres away from where I stay.

        How are you planning to communicate with these businesses? Email, telephone, in person?

        I planned to advertise in my local papers on all major languages, that is English, Malay, Chinese and Indian. With these kind of advertisements plus some email marketing , tell me that I cannot get at least 30 or even 100 of them? Impossible!


        How are you going to deal with peripheral issues, for example - most decent sized companies require proper invoicing for their accounts department, and 1001 other things that take time, money and effort.

        I plan to deal with simple business owners since it is a simple website. I am in control of this offer and if I find that they are too demanding and negative, I will give them a pass and move to the next one.

        Do you have experience of outsourcing things like this? Do you realise how problematic it is when the client deals directly with you, therefore whenever they want slight changes made it involves three different parties all communicating, with the person in the middle (you) being able to decipher what either party really wants? Multiply this by thirty and it gets really complex.

        This is a simple ONE PAGE website that comes with the terms and conditions. I will only allow one changes for each website and nothing more. If they want the luxury to make more changes, they can purchase from me a complete websites that cost $599 and which are still much cheaper than those that are being sold on the market now.

        So they're likely to be upsold on a bigger/better website, even though their shiny new one page website has achieved 0 traffic?

        Yes! when they realized that their one page website are not sufficient enough to bring them the desired traffic,that is where they will be upsold on other things. it will be much easier to explain to them that they need MORE CONTENTS in order to get the site ranking high on the search engine after they have their one page website. Otherwise, the one page website is already good enough for them to buy PPC advertisements or make their company look more professional on their business cards and other marketing platforms. So, a one page website is not totally useless as you painted it to be.

        Can you expand on what you mean by 'do a good one so that they will be impressed' - in terms of a one page website?

        You know when something is ugly or pretty don't you? Don't tell me you don't know whether a website is crappy or presentable? As an Internet marketer, if a particular website look presentable to you, chances are it will be "gorgeous looking" to the non - internet marketers and in this case, the local business owners. example of a one page website Simple Site Builder

        Contrary to popular opinion, I don't like being negative unless I'm doing it constructively to help someone - in this case, it's anyone reading this.

        But your post sounded total negative and very rigid. At least to me.

        The way this is written is like a typical salesletter - all of the difficult stuff is glossed over or ignored and it's written using verbage which seeks to minimalise everything that's impossible to minimalise in reality -

        EG - 'the offers are literally endless.'

        Please explain how/why they are 'literally endless'?


        If you can generate leads from these local business owners that are interested in your FREE offer, don't tell me you don't know how to capitalize on them for maximum profits? Do you think that you can offer products that can complement their one page website or to sell them NEW products that can help them in their business? (e.g ebooks from clickbanks that are related to their niches?). Or offer to expand their one page websites to a more complete websites, offer to set up autoresponder services for them, offer facebook fan page for their businesses, offer them SEO, Google placings, video marketing, email marketing etc etc?

        PS: it seems that Mike Filsaime has similar strategy here. I don't know, he could be mistaken too http://www.the-profit-platform.com/webinar/replay

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  • Profile picture of the author mike gregory
    Originally Posted by Dano1981 View Post

    Hello Warriors,

    There is a method of offering to build websites for businesses for free, by sending them though an affiliate link to sign up for your hosting company...


    I read briefly about it, but can't seem to find the info on it any longer

    Does anyone have a ebook or more info on this?

    Thank you very much!

    Dano~
    I think it may have been my thread you read, i have moved it to my blog now you can read it at http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/mi...ct-system.html

    I also have an Ebook that goes into a lot more detail on this business module with how to det up the ad copy etc, will dig it out and send you a copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrea Wilson
    I am thinking that maybe you were talking about a free WSO here in the warriorforum before? It involves craiglist, ads posting and offering a hosting account. It cant be given away though so maybe you can ask that warrior for a copy. Not sure what was his name here but in the book it is Bo Mill.

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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi greggreg,

      I agree and correct me if Im wrong these hosting providers pay out 100 or less and dont offer residual income. Doesn't sound worth it imo for the amount of work.
      I agree with you. My main point is that in a positional sense, this is a weak business model.

      The main income source does not go directly between the buyer and the seller, there is a go-between and the seller is simply an affiliate. This is the main weakness.

      This is a model adopted by the majority, usually because they have issues preventing them from creating their own product and cutting out the middleman.

      In online business not so long ago, it was more feasible to make a thriving business out of this type of model. But the market has matured and vendors have seen the influx of 'low barrier to entry' marketers and have adjusted their models accordingly.

      The exact same process has happened more recently with CPA networks. When they appeared a few years ago, they needed a load of people making big money (and shouting about it) to attract the opportunity seekers to the market. Once this was accomplished, they started turning the screw, as always occurs.

      Just read around to see the stories of last year's CPA heroes who are now starting from scratch.

      Therefore it's imperative that to avoid this cycle of boom and bust, once people have learnt the ropes from affiliate marketing they need to think positionally and cut out the middleman - he is the weak (greedy and lazy) link in the chain - he holds the aces and calls the shots - and shaves away, while dong relatively no work. The 'chain' can't afford leaches and parasites.

      To take this model and involve multiple offline businesses who you are answerable to - for small returns, is not advisable in my opinion.

      Hi mike gregory,

      But what the real goal here is once you have a new client you can then offer further services on the back end.

      Now you have created them a site they are much more inclined to take your additional services such as website development, SEO, etc.
      Do you not see the gaping hole in the logic of this approach?

      It's like a product that is sold as 'all you need', then no sooner than the buyer commits to buy he is offered an upsell that provides a 'more complete' solution.

      When you say 'now you have created them a site they are much more inclined to take additional services' then you need to be very careful how you sell the initial one page site.

      If you use any sort of wording that suggests that the one page site will do a job for them on it's own, they will baulk at the upsell and complain that you misled them.

      Plus, if someone refuses the offer of the upsell on that basis, you have then turned them into a disgruntled buyer, of which you might well be creating 30 a month.

      All of this for a paltry affiliate commission. It's a flawed/outdated business model yet people are calling this 'a very high potential business model.'

      It's a lot of work and hassle for a small return, that is utterly dependant on far too many external factors and middlemen. Many experts (such as Kiyosaki) suggest that cash-flow is the single most important aspect of a successful business - this one falls down on that aspect.
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      • Profile picture of the author Qamar
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi greggreg,

        All of this for a paltry affiliate commission. It's a flawed/outdated business model yet people are calling this 'a very high potential business model.'

        It's a lot of work and hassle for a small return, that is utterly dependant on far too many external factors and middlemen. Many experts (such as Kiyosaki) suggest that cash-flow is the single most important aspect of a successful business - this one falls down on that aspect.
        USD125X30 = USD3,750. (only one website per day) This amount maybe small for a successful businessman like you, but it can mean a lot to many other people and the best part about this model is, it is fairly easy to achieve within one month period, because it involve giving away FREE product to people.
        If you write articles, promoting a Clickbank product, how many quality articles do you need to write in order to convert that kind of affiliate commissions within a month, if you ever could?
        I don't know, but I just have to disagree that this is a weak business model. In fact it is very feasible.




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        • Profile picture of the author ExRat
          Hi Qamar,

          Thanks for your reply.

          don't tell me it is hard to give away something that is FREE to people who might need them?
          It can be.

          Try giving me something for free - I don't want it, because nothing is truly free.

          Care to tell me what's wrong with giving away FREE items on the front end in the view of generating leads so that you can sell them services over and over again?
          I've spelled it out quite clearly previously.

          PS: it seems that Mike Filsaime has similar strategy here. I don't know, he could be mistaken too http://www.the-profit-platform.com/webinar/replay
          No he's not mistaken. He's an internet marketer who makes money from selling blueprints of business models. Read into that whatever you choose.

          It's pointless me rebutting all of your points, even though I can. It makes no odds to me whether someone attempts this or does not.

          I'm just offering my advice for those who want to take it. Good luck, I sincerely hope that you succeed with this, thus proving me wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sagar Mehta
        Before taking any sides, I'd like to share a resource that could be used with this method. It's free.

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        Qamar,

        Originally Posted by Qamar View Post

        When they realized that their one page website are not sufficient enough to bring them the desired traffic,that is where they will be upsold on other things. it will be much easier to explain to them that they need MORE CONTENTS in order to get the site ranking high on the search engine after they have their one page website.
        Don't you think the first question they'll ask you is:
        "Why didn't you tell me that BEFORE?"

        It is obvious that you knew about it before you gave the person the free website. Sure, it was free but I wonder what it would do to your credibility.


        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Therefore it's imperative that to avoid this cycle of boom and bust, once people have learnt the ropes from affiliate marketing they need to think positionally and cut out the middleman - he is the weak (greedy and lazy) link in the chain - he holds the aces and calls the shots - and shaves away, while doing relatively no work. The 'chain' can't afford leaches and parasites.

        To take this model and involve multiple offline businesses who you are answerable to - for small returns, is not advisable in my opinion.

        I see what you're trying to say here. But then, would this model become a GOOD model if we do cut out the middleman? Let's say someone makes enough their first month to get a reseller account and now, there's no middleman - they can provide hosting themselves.

        Would that make it 'workable'?

        I personally think it's up the actual person offering the service - not everyone can/would like to mess with a Reseller account.

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        • Profile picture of the author Qamar
          Originally Posted by Sagar Mehta View Post


          Don't you think the first question they'll ask you is:
          "Why didn't you tell me that BEFORE?"

          It is obvious that you knew about it before you gave the person the free website. Sure, it was free but I wonder what it would do to your credibility.



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          For this model, I simply don't have the time to explain to everyone of them the benefits of having a website with good content, keywords, etc. If I were to do this, than it defeats the purpose of my whole game plan that is to generate as much leads as possible in the shortest time.

          I would rather give them the chance to feel what it is like to have their own websites, if they like it then I will start to introduce step 2 onwards, otherwise I will keep on gathering leads and try to upsell to those who have already see the benefits of having a site for their businesses. Remember local business owners are not internet savvy, even though they can be some millionaires. i know because I have spoken to one of them who owns a shipping company but know nothing when it comes to internet jargons etc.


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  • Profile picture of the author dirocket
    This is just marketing strategy to sell hosting product
    those one page website doesn't make any sense and business
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  • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
    This works, but is not completely sustainable in the long run. Getting 360 businesses to work with you for 40k is ROUGH!

    However, I do incorporate this into my business to add value when needed. I'm thinking of writing a whole thread or WSO at some point to explain.

    But by itself, you are better finding a 9-5 because you will be working 8-8 to get enough businesses to make this a success. I also hope you can prove me wrong. I never like to say CAN'T.
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    • Profile picture of the author BenoitT
      Give something valuable before asking for money is a good marketing mindset. Show them you treat them like kings and they will be happy to spend money and they will be happy to get your awesome services.

      That's it.
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      • Profile picture of the author oneplusone
        I was aware of this 2-3 years ago, there were many variations of this method about at the time.

        It doesn't have to be B2B, it can also be B2C.
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      • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
        Originally Posted by BenoitT View Post

        Give something valuable before asking for money is a good marketing mindset. Show them you treat them like kings and they will be happy to spend money and they will be happy to get your awesome services.

        That's it.
        Yes, but be clear that they respect your work and don't just respect that it is free. Because if it's a "whatever it's free" mindset then you run into the issues described above where they think you misled them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
    The problem you may have with this plan in my experience is you are going to have to support a huge number of clients on a monthly basis that may well expect free support. What happens if the host goes down for an hour..you could have to deal with 20 clients at once.

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  • Profile picture of the author xtrapunch
    You don't need a book. Get your own website using WordPress or Blogger. Get an affiliate account with any good web hosting company (I promote GoDaddy on Specky Geek | Blogging Tips, WordPress, SEO & Make Money Online) and add the link on your site. You would also want to add a coupon/code for tracking. Ask people to sign up using your link and mail you the details so that you can help them. Would glad to help you! All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author erichammer
    John Chow has a good model for this kind of business. He offers to set up Wordpress, including installing needed plugins for free if you sign up for hosting through his affiliate link. Since the entire process takes around 5-10 minutes if you know what you're doing, the money is worth it to him. Plus, I imagine he outsources to someone who takes care of it for him for a few dollars so he doesn't have to bother.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Sagar,

      I see what you're trying to say here. But then, would this model become a GOOD model if we do cut out the middleman? Let's say someone makes enough their first month to get a reseller account and now, there's no middleman - they can provide hosting themselves.

      Would that make it 'workable'?
      It makes it better. But then it's starting to become a completely different thing. It would eventually be renamed 'provide internet services to offline business' and the major 'selling points' of the above plan would be void. The difference can be put in perspective by considering that -

      a) it's not going to be possible to twist it into sounding newbie friendly, which is more than likely the main reason this 'plan' was conceived in the first place - to sell IM products to those who don't know better - which just happens to be the very same reason for many of the IM products out there that turn out to be way more impractical in reality than they sound in the hyped up salesletter.

      b) you can make a good living from only one customer, but they will provide enough headaches to keep you busy full time

      I personally think it's up the actual person offering the service - not everyone can/would like to mess with a Reseller account.
      Personally, I would rather have 1000 clients who solely require me to administrate the management of their websites on my reseller accounts, than to have 30 clients who have been promised a website that will make a difference to their business, that I am responsible for creating/managing.

      Reseller accounts are no problem - once you learn how to use them, you're done.

      Human beings, particularly business people, who have been made promises, are a totally different kettle of fish. Yes they each provide huge potential, but they're also keen for their pound of flesh and some of them are purely predatory.

      Hi erichammer,

      John Chow has a good model for this kind of business. He offers to set up Wordpress, including installing needed plugins for free if you sign up for hosting through his affiliate link. Since the entire process takes around 5-10 minutes if you know what you're doing, the money is worth it to him. Plus, I imagine he outsources to someone who takes care of it for him for a few dollars so he doesn't have to bother.
      I don't know for sure, but as far as I know John Chow is an internet marketer (of the 'blogger' variety) so I presume that he runs an email list. Therefore I would also assume that this is simply a loss leader in order to get those people onto his list with a functioning website and then do what internet marketers do with email lists - make money.
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      • Profile picture of the author erichammer
        Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

        Hi erichammer,

        I don't know for sure, but as far as I know John Chow is an internet marketer (of the 'blogger' variety) so I presume that he runs an email list. Therefore I would also assume that this is simply a loss leader in order to get those people onto his list with a functioning website and then do what internet marketers do with email lists - make money.
        That's possible too. I just assumed he was making money from it. I don't know what the payout is from Hosgator, but I know he requires people to take at least a year hosting to get that service. He's not the only one. There is a Wordpress for Beginners blog that I saw which does something similar (I don't recall the name off hand). I do know however that knowing what I know now I could set up a basic Wordpress site with a half dozen plugins installed and configured in under 10 minutes. I imagine whoever does it for him does something similar.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cliff_OBA
    There's some good stuff here. One thing I would stress is that you should always be looking to expand your services. As others have suggested, you can learn some new skills or outsource. You can also partner up with people. An 'Affiliate' sale doesn't have to be some info product you link to. Work out a deal with a service provider where you get paid a commission on referrals. I am constantly overloaded on my offline work, including a lot of non-marketing technical jobs, but I make it a point never to turn away a customer. With a network of good service providers, you can always make a referral, whether or not you end up with a commission. The bonus is that you now have a paying customer on your list, even if they didn't pay you. This has value, and helps to grow your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingPro11
    The actual money in this business comes in when you build a decent sized list of clients and start offering them higher value services.

    Giving away a website and collecting affiliate commissions is just the starting and you can make pretty decent amount of money with that...

    Suppose you just get 30 clients per month.So that is a total of $3750 in affiliate commisions.Now you can take out $400-$500 out of that and hire a Filipino designer full time.

    Then you can hire someone to do the "client getting" job for almost similar amounts and focus yourself on providing higher value services like SEO,consultation and advertising management etc.

    The secret to success lies in finding new clients and having a team to do all the hard work.Seems a bit difficult in the beginning but once you train your team,it is pretty much autopilot money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Qamar
      Originally Posted by MarketingPro11 View Post

      The actual money in this business comes in when you build a decent sized list of clients and start offering them higher value services.

      Giving away a website and collecting affiliate commissions is just the starting and you can make pretty decent amount of money with that...

      Suppose you just get 30 clients per month.So that is a total of $3750 in affiliate commisions.Now you can take out $400-$500 out of that and hire a Filipino designer full time.

      Then you can hire someone to do the "client getting" job for almost similar amounts and focus yourself on providing higher value services like SEO,consultation and advertising management etc.

      The secret to success lies in finding new clients and having a team to do all the hard work.Seems a bit difficult in the beginning but once you train your team,it is pretty much autopilot money.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayPeete
    I haven't seen that one here but it is a really good tactic. It's a lot of work if you are not outsourcing but a great way to bring in some good money.
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  • Profile picture of the author mike gregory
    The clients you get from this business are getting what they are first sold, in this case a free website, there is no trickery!

    But the up-sell is that they can also have additional services, this is by no means needed but once explained to them the benefits that it can bring i have always had a good return rate. If they choose not to thats fine they have a new site, I have an affiliate commission and for no work on my behalf as its outsourced for a very good rate

    I see how some view this as being a little dishonest and 'sneaky' but it really is not. Giving something of value to the customer that they are happy with has always worked out very well for me in then offering further services.

    This is just my opinion on this matter and I have done very well out of it so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author tanya7zhou
      First of all, there is nothing dodgy/trickery about this. I was suprised to see people writting long post trying to justify that this business model is wrong for business owners. The IDEA is to get your foot through the door.

      Get to know business owners and establish a relationship with them. Offering a FREE website will do just that to break the ice. Stay in regular touch with them, visit them and show them you care about their affairs.

      Look at GOOGLE, the search engine is FREE right? But they have a DRUM full of customers paying them to advertise on their site. Not everyone pays GOOGLE, but there are those who give them billions. You might not get paid huge premium fees by everybody, but you'll surly find those who will pay you more.

      It is how you look at it. It works. In fact most of the models that are being sold on the forum and online works. If you think it is difficult, it is difficult!

      If you think you are being helpful and getting to know more business owners then you are right! These business owners will become an asset for you to build a a solid business. Next time when you tell them to come to a free seminar, they will gladly come. One seminar, great info and then a back end product.....hmmmm money is knocking on your door.

      Buy internet programs and products from superstars like Dan Kennedy and educate these guys! They will see you as the go to guy for internet and offline marketing stuff. Talking about The Strategy of Pre-eminence here. Thanks Jay Abraham

      The business model of offering FREE works. I offer FREE seminars. If you're just starting, have a plan of what you really want and start by offering FREE websites, begin to learn the ropes of SEO, Google places, facebook fan page, marketing campaign licensing, direct mail, etc Go and talk to these business owners, listen to them and begin to help them grow their businesses. Show them how they can reduce their working hours, how to have more time off by systemizing their businesses. You will be thanked coz you know a lot. Trust me!

      But start somewhere.Get you foot in there first. "Yes get in there my son" we say that here in the UK.

      Offering a FREE website is a perfect place to get started. Then move up the Ladder See you at the TOP!
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    There is a national television campaign currently running here, using this method.

    They make a free website for your business, after they have walked you through the hosting set up and your domain name purchase.

    If it doesn't work then they are wasting an awful lot in advertising costs.

    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author paulie888
      Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

      There is a national television campaign currently running here, using this method.

      They make a free website for your business, after they have walked you through the hosting set up and your domain name purchase.

      If it doesn't work then they are wasting an awful lot in advertising costs.

      Cheers,
      Colin Palfrey
      I think it can be safely concluded that this business model works pretty well, especially when even big national campaigns are run using it. Whether or not you choose to cut out the middleman (and just resell hosting to your clients directly) is a matter of personal choice. The upfront affiliate payment of $125 per sign up from Hostgator (and I'd imagine the other hosting companies offer similar payouts as well) is nothing to sneeze at, as that is equivalent to 12 months or more of basic hosting.

      As long as the affiliate program is honest and pays promptly, it becomes more a matter of personal choice as to which business model you'd like to employ.
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      • Profile picture of the author tanya7zhou
        Offering a FREE front end product is a way of establishing relationship and introducing yourself. To you, those business owners are no longer cold leads whenever you want to sell them something. It's easier for them to set aside time for you to hear what you've got to say

        Do it well, you will rejoice. People who are generous are rich. Give Give Give, but don't forget the reason why you're giving,....... so you can RECEIVE. Expect great results.

        Offer so much value, to the point they don't have an option but to listen to you. MORE VALUE will lead to people feeling like they owe you.

        You can even sign them up for a weekly teleconference at a certain price....instant profits.

        You can even start your own networking business through this

        You see, all those google products that are FREE. It's just publicity and good deeds. Do you know...... GOOGLE earn billions per quarter every quarter, but some people still think they do everything for FREE.

        They have created this FREE search engine so you think, FREE DOCS, FREE EMAIL, etc all of that creates a network of fans through out the world. You can consider it as a list of loyal subscribers.

        So everyone is going to this FREE GOOGLE search engine to look for whatever. Google then create a system of selling advertising. People bid, GOOGLE makes a lot of money. All parties benefit.

        There are those who will use GOOGLE all their life and never pay them a dime. But there is a remnant of those who will use google's traffic to profit and they will pay GOOGLE for advertising.

        The moral of the story is......Create your own Network like GOOGLE and profit.

        Even though some businesses cannot buy anything on the back-end, you will still get rich, because there is a remnant of business who will pay you for your VALUE.

        FOCUS on the back-end

        MY question is....what is your FREE front-end product to publicize yourself? Make sure it's valuable, not crap! GOOGLE search engine, though FREE, it's very valuable.

        No excuses guys. Offer your fron't end product for FREE. But please, upgrade your skills daily so you can help your business owners. If you don't know how to do something-----outsource. No excuses. No guys!

        Go and build your network like GOOGLE.

        See you at the TOP!
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    • Profile picture of the author Qamar
      Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

      There is a national television campaign currently running here, using this method.

      They make a free website for your business, after they have walked you through the hosting set up and your domain name purchase.

      If it doesn't work then they are wasting an awful lot in advertising costs.

      Cheers,
      Colin Palfrey
      Precisely....
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  • Profile picture of the author J R Salem
    For those who buy domains like:

    RoofContractorSeattle.com

    How do you ensure your site comes up when someone types "roof contractor Seattle" in the google search box?

    Do you have to use Seo, or will it automatically come up since it's an exact match to your domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author LargeBenjamin
    If you are going to go to the trouble of finding businesses who want websites, why not charge them 2-3 grand for the website, outsource it for $350 and keep the rest of the cash, making 1650-2650 dollars profit instead of $5.99.
    The cost and effort of marketing something that is free is the same as marketing something that costs 3K, plus I doubt any business is going to want a 1 page website. They will want something decent, and they will want traffic aswell. You can team up with a reputable SEO company in your area, and pass them the work for a comission.
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    • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
      Originally Posted by LargeBenjamin View Post

      If you are going to go to the trouble of finding businesses who want websites, why not charge them 2-3 grand for the website, outsource it for $350 and keep the rest of the cash, making 1650-2650 dollars profit instead of $5.99.
      The cost and effort of marketing something that is free is the same as marketing something that costs 3K, plus I doubt any business is going to want a 1 page website. They will want something decent, and they will want traffic aswell. You can team up with a reputable SEO company in your area, and pass them the work for a comission.
      I believe that is the up-sell the TV people offer.

      If they fail to convince you of the importance of the full marketing package, then they still get the hosting commission. If they succeed then you get a website and marketing package, and they make even more.

      The free introduction is a standard opening gambit, usually followed by a series of up-sells and down-sells. The point is, as an opening pitch it is very effective at getting people into your sales funnel.

      Cheers,
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      • Profile picture of the author LargeBenjamin
        Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

        I believe that is the up-sell the TV people offer.

        If they fail to convince you of the importance of the full marketing package, then they still get the hosting commission. If they succeed then you get a website and marketing package, and they make even more.

        The free introduction is a standard opening gambit, usually followed by a series of up-sells and down-sells. The point is, as an opening pitch it is very effective at getting people into your sales funnel.

        Cheers,
        Colin Palfrey
        Ok, so you spend a load of time and money getting all these businesses to get your free website or 5$ hosting or whatever, then what will you upsell them? A bigger site, which you sell for 500$? an ebook? What is the point of all that, when you can go to a business and sell them something that costs 3 grand in the first place. Then charge them maintanance, upgrades and seo services (hint hint this is where the cash is) on a monthly basis.

        Plus, have you ever actually tried to convince a business to have a one page website?
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  • Profile picture of the author mmsearch
    Hey guys

    Been reading this thread with great interest.

    First let me say that I am going to try this method out for myself starting out with only the city in which i live. Having said that, I really cannot see how I would not be able to get 21 clients or whatever it is to make the 125 per as an affiliate of hostgator.

    I mean, I know most people in this thread are targeting mainly businesses alone but it occurred to me that there has to be boatloads of local people/local organizations, clubs, bands, groups, community groups, local sports teams, specific special interests etc or whatever out there that might want to have their own website. However, by and large, the average person probably doesnt have the faintest idea of how to do it. I think there is probably still a bit of a gap between average everyday people and those that know how to set up a simple website.

    Seems like an easy deal here for this group of people.

    Just my 2 cents



    Off the top of my head, I can think of dozens of such groups that I could approach in my city that would jump at such an offer as a free one page website for the cost of a domain name and hosting- I mean you could even charge a small fee to set up this part as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Originally Posted by Dano1981 View Post

    Hello Warriors,

    There is a method of offering to build websites for businesses for free, by sending them though an affiliate link to sign up for your hosting company...


    I read briefly about it, but can't seem to find the info on it any longer

    Does anyone have a ebook or more info on this?

    Thank you very much!

    Dano~
    Hey Dano,

    I don't know why you don't just jump in there and do it!

    You obviously know what you want to do and an understanding of how it is done.

    Just jump in there and go for it! Work out the "target market" and "business smarts" stuff later.

    Work hard, get some affiliate sales going and grow and expand from there.

    There can be a fine line between preparing yourself and procrastination, learn as you go
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