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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

So my advice is to STOP what you are currently doing and start hunting for the next big thing...

Good Luck

I think it should be the opposite. Create a plan that works and scale it. If you go around searching for the "next big thing", you may end up missing some serious money making opportunities (in fact, you probably WILL).

I'd rather make cash on something I know is certain than focus ALL of my time into finding the next big heavy-hitter. That's almost as foolish as buying a lotto ticket and believing that you'll be the big winner. Sure, there's a chance you could win, but the odd's aren't in your favor. Of course, that doesn't mean you shouldn't follow any websites that could possibly become big contenders, but I wouldn't put all of my focus on it.

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Tina Golden

14 years ago

All of those things that you say "had its day"...they STILL WORK. You're talking about the gimmicks and the do-it-before-they-crack-down things that are not what anyone should be using as the basis for their business.

You go ahead and chase fads.

I'd rather build a lasting business that doesn't depend on not getting caught or slapped down.

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Martin Luxton

14 years ago

The Next Big Thing is actually being launched next week!

www.twitfacetubemail.com

It's an exciting new Ipad app that automatically converts tweets and Facebook comments into Youtube videos, which are then blasted out via email to over 100 million people a day.

It's only $1,997 and if you hurry up and join the affiliate programme before 4th May you'll get 110% commission on every sale!

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bnwebm

14 years ago

Thanks, but i'm holding out for the Android version.
/joke

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

The Next Big Thing is actually being launched next week!

www.twitfacetubemail.com

It's an exciting new Ipad app that automatically converts tweets and Facebook comments into Youtube videos, which are then blasted out via email to over 100 million people a day.

It's only $1,997 and if you hurry up and join the affiliate programme before 4th May you'll get 110% commission on every sale!

Martin

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Brian Clark

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

It's an exciting new Ipad app that automatically converts tweets and Facebook comments into Youtube videos, which are then blasted out via email to over 100 million people a day.

It's only $1,997 and if you hurry up and join the affiliate programme before 4th May you'll get 110% commission on every sale!

Martin

Martin, can I be your first affiliate? LOL!

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Martin Luxton 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Brian Clark

Martin, can I be your first affiliate? LOL!

OK, but you have to promise you won't buy more than 50 copies via your own affiliate link.

Martin
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Istvan Horvath

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

The Next Big Thing is actually being launched next week!

www.twitfacetubemail.com

It's an exciting new Ipad app that automatically converts tweets and Facebook comments into Youtube videos, which are then blasted out via email to over 100 million people a day.

It's only $1,997 and if you hurry up and join the affiliate programme before 4th May you'll get 110% commission on every sale!

Martin

Can I have a review copy, please?

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Martin Luxton 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath

Can I have a review copy, please?

Sorry, Istvan.

I absolutely neverrr everrr give out more than 2 review copies and they were snapped up by Steve Jobs and Warren Buffet.

So, by my mathematics, that means there are still 4,998 review copies left. PM sent

Martin
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Diane S

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

The Next Big Thing is actually being launched next week!

www.twitfacetubemail.com

It's an exciting new Ipad app that automatically converts tweets and Facebook comments into Youtube videos, which are then blasted out via email to over 100 million people a day.

It's only $1,997 and if you hurry up and join the affiliate programme before 4th May you'll get 110% commission on every sale!

Martin

That domain is still available, too! Grab it while you can! :rolleyes:

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

The Next Big Thing is actually being launched next week!

www.twitfacetubemail.com

It's an exciting new Ipad app that automatically converts tweets and Facebook comments into Youtube videos, which are then blasted out via email to over 100 million people a day.

It's only $1,997 and if you hurry up and join the affiliate programme before 4th May you'll get 110% commission on every sale!

Martin

HAHA! This made me lol

On another note, if you're going to be basing things on trends and all, Gary Vaynerchuk is an awesome trend-spotter. Just saying.

I'm down with the steady business tho. I'll take a list (and a good relationship with that list) over a has-been tactic any day.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Martin Luxton

The Next Big Thing is actually being launched next week!

www.twitfacetubemail.com

It's an exciting new Ipad app that automatically converts tweets and Facebook comments into Youtube videos, which are then blasted out via email to over 100 million people a day.

It's only $1,997 and if you hurry up and join the affiliate programme before 4th May you'll get 110% commission on every sale!

Martin

I LOVE IT! WHERE DO I SIGN UP??? ROFLMAO!!!

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Steve L

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Tina Golden

All of those things that you say "had its day"...they STILL WORK. You're talking about the gimmicks and the do-it-before-they-crack-down things that are not what anyone should be using as the basis for their business.

You go ahead and chase fads.

I'd rather build a lasting business that doesn't depend on not getting caught or slapped down.

agreed. i mean, you have to be kidding me to say "blogs" no longer work. a blog is just a website. yea, okay... websites "don't work" anymore. :rolleyes:

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brendan9971

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhuff85

I think it should be the opposite. Create a plan that works and scale it. If you go around searching for the "next big thing", you may end up missing some serious money making opportunities (in fact, you probably WILL).

I'd rather make cash on something I know is certain than focus ALL of my time into finding the next big heavy-hitter. That's almost as foolish as buying a lotto ticket and believing that you'll be the big winner. Sure, there's a chance you could win, but the odd's aren't in your favor. Of course, that doesn't mean you shouldn't follow any websites that could possibly become big contenders, but I wouldn't put all of my focus on it.

well said, bhuff85. I have to agree. As much as I would LOVE to be the person to find the next big thing, or to get in on the next big thing from the get-go, it's very unlikely that will happen. So I think the best bang for my buck (and time) is to focus on techniques I know are working.

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jiantastic

14 years ago

Originally Posted by bhuff85

I think it should be the opposite. Create a plan that works and scale it. If you go around searching for the "next big thing", you may end up missing some serious money making opportunities (in fact, you probably WILL).

I'd rather make cash on something I know is certain than focus ALL of my time into finding the next big heavy-hitter. That's almost as foolish as buying a lotto ticket and believing that you'll be the big winner. Sure, there's a chance you could win, but the odd's aren't in your favor. Of course, that doesn't mean you shouldn't follow any websites that could possibly become big contenders, but I wouldn't put all of my focus on it.

yup. money first. ideas later. well said my friend.
I can tell you don't gamble much, and that is a great mindset.

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bnwebm

14 years ago

Regardless of whether you got into these sites and were permitted to perform these actions, they are simply BAD ideas. Think about you, being a representation of your business physically and doing any one of these to another person (eg: potential customer). If I were said customer, i'd slap you for blasting me and my info to a random, huge list, harping on me to buy someone else's product and well, liking yourself. It's common sense and if it doesn't work in the real world with people, chances are it isn't going to last online (if there are enough complaints, which is usually the case).

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

Remember, when you get into something from the beginning, you are most likely not going to get banned for....

1)Twitter - following too many people in a day (that didn't happen in the beginning)

2) Fiverr - advertising your own website to clients

3) PPC - linking directly to affiliate sites

4) Article Marketing - linking directly to affiliate sites

5) Digg - posting personal articles

6) Stumble Upon - Liking Yourself

7) Youtube - utilizing copyrighted material

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Jason Perez O'Connor

14 years ago

Going to be blunt.

Some of the worst advice I've ever read. Basically, you're telling people to use unethical methods on a site that you think is going to become huge before they realise the features people abuse and crack down on it.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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Wonderful Warrior

14 years ago

Business IS a gimmick......

There are 1,000's of people who can do what you do, but if people don't know you exist you'll never be found.

Gimmick is just another word for Brand......

Also, when Adsense started and I was making $10 a click.. I was following the rules and getting a lot of clicks... then AdSense kept changing the rules and I'm not making hundreds of dollars a day

The idea isn't to cheat a new system..... Posting direct links to affiliate sites is not cheating..

It wasn't until ezinearticles became the "biggest" article site that they started implementing those rules.....

once these big sites don't need you to get to number one, they start screwing you....

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Mike McAleer

14 years ago

The idea is as simple as economics. As more and more "firms" enter the market, the profits are lost. It makes a lot of sense.
The more competition there is, the less profits you can squeeze out. Obviously you can make money with these methods but the people who jump on the new stuff and scale it make lots of money.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike McAleer

The idea is as simple as economics. As more and more "firms" enter the market, the profits are lost. It makes a lot of sense.
The more competition there is, the less profits you can squeeze out. Obviously you can make money with these methods but the people who jump on the new stuff and scale it make lots of money.

Big problem #1: You have to guess right, and you have to know when to bail out, cash in your chips and go hunting again. Even the smart ones often won't believe the party is over until the cops show up, and ride the wave until it crashes on the beach. (Can I mix my metaphors, or what?

)

Big problem #2: Continued success depends on guessing right again and again and again, and like picking lottery numbers, the odds are against you.

Butch told Sundance, about his idea of going to Bolivia, "I got vision and the world wears bifocals..." Of course, we all know how well that worked out.

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BizWebMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

Now is the time to be looking for that "new" thing that you know is going to be hot. Take advantage of that system while you can...

You know one of the things I learned and it was a hard lesson because I thought I knew better and that is:

Do not go chasing the next new idea because like all things it is likely to be just another fleeting trend.

Most things worth while take hard work and rely on age old principles of selling.

Make it worth while look after your customers and continue to give value and you will have them with you for the ride.

We all have to learn the lesson - it is all about how quick you learn and much it costs you along the way.

Grahame

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Evil Sniper XV

14 years ago

Wait i'm confused, so have you found that secret thing or are you still looking?

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Mike Hill

14 years ago

The entire time I was reading this post I was waiting for the OP to say it was all a joke. This is actually THE worst advice I've ever read here on the forum.

Hope you don't have a mentoring program

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

There is something really huge right now in Internet Marketing and you are most likely missing it..

Why?

Because everyone has you distracted on techniques that are not working ANY MORE...

Blogs had their day... Adsense had its day... Craigs List had its day...Social Media had its day... Article Marketing had its day...and Fiverr too

These are some of the things that if you got started right away you would have made a fortune by now... But you decided to get in after the parade passed you by.

Every few years (now months) a new system comes out that you can take advantage of while it is still in its beginning stages... Remember, when you get into something from the beginning, you are most likely not going to get banned for....

1)Twitter - following too many people in a day (that didn't happen in the beginning)

2) Fiverr - advertising your own website to clients

3) PPC - linking directly to affiliate sites

4) Article Marketing - linking directly to affiliate sites

5) Digg - posting personal articles

6) Stumble Upon - Liking Yourself

7) Youtube - utilizing copyrighted material

In every soon-to-be "great thing" there was ALWAYS a time when you could take advantage of the system

.......so

Now is the time to be looking for that "new" thing that you know is going to be hot. Take advantage of that system while you can...

Nobody is going to tell you what it is.. Nobody is going to help you.... Nobody is going to spoon feed you......

How will you know if it's going to hit the big time.....

You don't

You'll know you missed it though when people are making WSO's within the next year.

So my advice is to STOP what you are currently doing and start hunting for the next big thing...

Good Luck

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Wonderful Warrior

14 years ago

So, I guess it was really, really dumb of me to get into AdSense and ppc in the beginning and Fiverr. and Ebay (when you could sell information products easily)

Oh, and the thousands I made off of Beanie Babies......

This post isn't for everyone.. It depends on your "business"...

For me, I look for trends and make money off of them... If that is not your taste or style you don't have to hate on me for giving advice that works for me......

I rather make my 6 figure income a year finding trends than working a "job"....

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bhuff85

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

So, I guess it was really, really dumb of me to get into AdSense and ppc in the beginning and Fiverr. and Ebay (when you could sell information products easily)

Oh, and the thousands I made off of Beanie Babies......

This post isn't for everyone.. It depends on your "business"...

For me, I look for trends and make money off of them... If that is not your taste or style you don't have to hate on me for giving advice that works for me......

I rather make my 6 figure income a year finding trends than working a "job"....

Nobody said it was dumb. What they did say was that your idea of getting in early on possible money-makers to use promotional tactics that would be banned elsewhere, was dumb.

There is nothing wrong with spotting trends and capitalizing on them, but the ideas you shared in your OP don't quite match up or compare with what you're saying here.

Like I said, why not keep an eye on trends while working on other parts of your business? There is no reason to completely STOP what is working for you now in hopes that you might hit it big with some other site. It's just common sense (and probably the smartest move business-wise, too).

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

So, I guess it was really, really dumb of me to get into AdSense and ppc in the beginning and Fiverr. and Ebay (when you could sell information products easily)

You still can sell information products easily. It's easier today because more people trust making a purchase online than the earlier days and with sites like Amazon, Google Books and iReader getting in front of the masses is quite easy actually.

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Rod Cortez

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

So, I guess it was really, really dumb of me to get into AdSense and ppc in the beginning and Fiverr. and Ebay (when you could sell information products easily)

Oh, and the thousands I made off of Beanie Babies......

This post isn't for everyone.. It depends on your "business"...

For me, I look for trends and make money off of them... If that is not your taste or style you don't have to hate on me for giving advice that works for me......

I rather make my 6 figure income a year finding trends than working a "job"....

Clearly there are people that do well following trends. While you're entitled to your opinion, we are our entitled to ours. And making a list of things that have "seen their day", when nothing could be further from the truth, is going to get a strong response in this forum. As one example, content marketing still works extremely well for us because we give great content, couple it with public relations, and use various distribution channels, of which article directories are only 5% of the traffic recipe.

Your last sentence about making 6 figures a year rather than working a "job" is understandable, but keep in mind that there are plenty of 6 and 7 figure earners here who do it with many of the things that you listed in your OP who are not jumping onto the next "new" thing. At least not in the context that you provided.

Here's the kind of trend-watching that I participate in: I tend to get involved in evergreen markets such as investing, dating, weight loss, marriage, etc. and do look for trends within those markets, so I do agree with a small part of what you posted, but many of the things you listed still work today. It's just a matter of being able to continue testing, tracking, and tweaking your campaigns.

But overall, I think your general advice in the context it was given, was just not good advice, especially for newbies, since they should focus first one one thing that has a system that has already been proven to work.

RoD

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

So, I guess it was really, really dumb of me to get into AdSense and ppc in the beginning and Fiverr. and Ebay (when you could sell information products easily)

Oh, and the thousands I made off of Beanie Babies......

This post isn't for everyone.. It depends on your "business"...

For me, I look for trends and make money off of them... If that is not your taste or style you don't have to hate on me for giving advice that works for me......

I rather make my 6 figure income a year finding trends than working a "job"....

No it's really dumb to constantly chase after new methods when the proven ones continue to work. Why not focus on what works instead of the newest latest and greatest that's been untested? It DOESN'T depend on your business. It depends on if you are willing to stay consistent.

BTW looking for trends is one thing and a good thing I might add. Not sticking to one method of making money and jumping from one place to another isn't going to get you anywhere.

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Jake Gray

14 years ago

Actually quite the opposite.

There are people out there thinking they need to find new methods
on a daily basis, but in reality, that will dig them an even deeper ditch.

You need to find a method, stick to it and scale it up.

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fated82

14 years ago

I guess there are some truth in it. But it is only half truths. I suggest that when one is starting out....hunt for the methods that you are comfortable with. try it out for a month or so and decide if you want to do it as a career.

If yes, then stick to it and make it work. Stay committed and work your way to six figure income.

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Joseph Then

14 years ago

I thought I've read worst advices in the past, this advice tops the chart of "King of worst advice".

Just don't give anymore advice. If you make 6 figure income, go and make it yourself and don't help the rest of the people here.

Oh yes, btw, all those that you mentioned that are NOT WORK, (Adsense, blogs, etc) I am still making a good living out of them.

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14 years ago

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celente

14 years ago

The real money maker in my book is testing and measuring.

Once you have a system that works, great!

Now just outsource taht and massively upscale. Why try to do something different if you know what works and brings in money. Too many marketers do this. silly really ey?

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DaniMc

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

1)Twitter - following too many people in a day (that didn't happen in the beginning)

2) Fiverr - advertising your own website to clients

3) PPC - linking directly to affiliate sites

4) Article Marketing - linking directly to affiliate sites

5) Digg - posting personal articles

6) Stumble Upon - Liking Yourself

7) Youtube - utilizing copyrighted material

Now, Now there people...don't be too hard on this post. There is always something good you can take away.

For example, This is a pretty good list of seven places to reach a huge market and make some money!

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RichardF

14 years ago

While I might not agree with all (or any) of your examples, you're right in a way. The advantage of being "first" can be huge, but also risky as some people have pointed out.

I know many people who struck gold in their early IM days just by being in the right place at the right time, taking advantage of what's hot. People who got in early starting a Myspace layout site, people who got into ringtones early (shoemoney), people who started an arcade or proxy site before everyone had them.. Hundreds of examples out there.

Once you've made a real home run with something like that, you can use that money to fund your long term projects.

Myself, I've always been just a LITTLE too late to the party to really make a killing. But there are tons of opportunities out there, and new ones every day. I'll continue making long term projects and keeping a look out for a quick cash grab at the same time.

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JohnMcCabe 14 years ago

If the OP can make six figures per year trendhopping, good on him. Advising other people to abandon what they're doing to trend-hop with him is irresponsible.

I know there are poker players who make six and seven figures from playing the game. I've never heard one of them advise people to quit their jobs in order to become professional poker players.

At least not without following that advice with an 800 number where you could order their "Get Rich Playing Poker" course...
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Tim_Carter

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

So my advice is to STOP what you are currently doing and start hunting for the next big thing...

Good Luck

What a load.
No thanks - some of us do very well with what we are doing. This is only good advice if what you are doing isn't producing the anticipated results.

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russells

14 years ago

I have to DISAGREE with you stongly.

Blogs are still massive. Don't think so? Check out copyblogger.com problogger.com, mashable.com, techcrunch.com to name but a few.

Social media is in its infancy. Social media is going to get bigger and bigger.

YouTube is still massive and the opportunity is growing. Who said anything about using other peoples content? Use your own content and you can win with YouTube - it's the 2nd largest search engine on the web and your target market ARE THERE watching videos day in day out.

You are wasting your time looking for 'the next big thing'. Stick with what's already proving to work and apply some elbow grease.

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Charlotte Jay

14 years ago

Not touching this one.

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rushindo

14 years ago

Dude, April fools was on April 1st, not May 1st.

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colie3188

14 years ago

Searching for the next BIG thing is no different than a crack fiend looking for their next HIT!

Stick with what works for you and own your NICHE!

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Anup Mahajan

14 years ago

I don't agree where you say that we should stop doing whatever we are doing right now and chase new trends. Instead I would advice that if something is working great and making money, one should try to scale it up as much as possible.

To be fair to OP though, I think he is right when he says that we should try to get first movers advantage. If we can identify something that is going to be big in the future, why not take advantage of it. However there are going to be more misses than hits, so you need to decide whether it is worth your time.

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scrofford

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

There is something really huge right now in Internet Marketing and you are most likely missing it..

Why?

Because everyone has you distracted on techniques that are not working ANY MORE...

Blogs had their day... Adsense had its day... Craigs List had its day...Social Media had its day... Article Marketing had its day...and Fiverr too

These are some of the things that if you got started right away you would have made a fortune by now... But you decided to get in after the parade passed you by.

Every few years (now months) a new system comes out that you can take advantage of while it is still in its beginning stages... Remember, when you get into something from the beginning, you are most likely not going to get banned for....

1)Twitter - following too many people in a day (that didn't happen in the beginning)

2) Fiverr - advertising your own website to clients

3) PPC - linking directly to affiliate sites

4) Article Marketing - linking directly to affiliate sites

5) Digg - posting personal articles

6) Stumble Upon - Liking Yourself

7) Youtube - utilizing copyrighted material

In every soon-to-be "great thing" there was ALWAYS a time when you could take advantage of the system

.......so

Now is the time to be looking for that "new" thing that you know is going to be hot. Take advantage of that system while you can...

Nobody is going to tell you what it is.. Nobody is going to help you.... Nobody is going to spoon feed you......

How will you know if it's going to hit the big time.....

You don't

You'll know you missed it though when people are making WSO's within the next year.

So my advice is to STOP what you are currently doing and start hunting for the next big thing...

Good Luck

I completely disagree! If you constantly chase the new fad and don't stick to a plan, you'll continue to chase things and never get anywhere. BTW Blogs are still a great way to make money. Youtube is still a great way to drive traffic. If you follow your own advice, I'll bet you won't get anywhere fast! As a matter of fact, what you say is the number one reason people fail in IM.

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dtaylor 14 years ago

The variety of way to make money online always amazes me. Just when I think I have seen everything, someone posts a way to make money that I simply never thought of.

While it is foolish to jump on every NEW bandwagon, it never hurts to keep your eye open for new and innovative ways of doing things. That is exactly how the properties on his list got so popular.

Bandwagon jumping just for the sake of bandwagon jumping is not the best business model I can think of, but I suppose SOMEONE is going to hit it once in awhile.

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sonicadam123

14 years ago

wouldn't touch this one with a 7ft bargepole.

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Chri5123

14 years ago

There is too much emphasis on "This method will not work anymore" - if you focus on building your online business and build your OWN sites then you will have far more success.

You mention article marketing as dying - nothing has changed and I am going to be blunt - the latest Google update affected MORE people that were not really doing article marketing correctly in the first place.

You can't make a post that says "Stop trying with push button solutions and sites" and then promote a push button solution.

My advice:

"Start building a community around your niche - put some real work and knowledge into the niche and what people want and give it to them!"

There are no push button solutions that I have ever found that work for ever.

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Michael Franklin

14 years ago

Although I've found that following the proven models would be the way to go, I've also found that over time that a slight tweak in some part of the model whether it be online promotion or layout or research will often lead me to bigger successes....So take what's proven but never stop testing!

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JamesGw

14 years ago

The OP's advice is some of the worst I have seen. The best way to make money online is to develop a strong brand presence by creating informative/useful sites that give people what they want. There's really not much else to it.

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myob

14 years ago

I am always interested and looking for the next hot new thing. But effectively using the proven "old school" marketing techniques for selling them - now that's where the real money's at.

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MichaelHiles

14 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

I am always interested and looking for the next hot new thing. But effectively using the proven "old school" marketing techniques for selling them - now that's where the real money's at.

The fundamentals haven't changed a bit. In fact, the shiny new object syndrome will detract the novices from achieving success simply because they stop focusing on the fundamentals and start chasing magic beans.

You know, magic beans...

...you put them into the ground and it grows a stalk that goes WAAAAY UP INTO THE SKY!

There really is a trend here though.

People who have absolutely no concept of marketing success trying to give advice to others.

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nicelife

14 years ago

Originally Posted by myob

I am always interested and looking for the next hot new thing. But effectively using the proven "old school" marketing techniques for selling them - now that's where the real money's at.

I totally agree Myob,this is definitely the way to go. Use the Buzz of new things to your advantage and sell e.g information on how to use this "New Thing" the absolute best way.

This is being done all the time and someone who acts fast on this could be in for a nice ride.

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Kwonyoo

14 years ago

It is the worst advice I have seen also from anywhere.

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AuthorityRush 14 years ago

Either you get it or you don't. If you do, you're the next guru selling your product. If you don't, you're buying their product.

The main point, stop following! Figure out something that isn't being slammed by a million others just like you.
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limestone614

14 years ago

Shocking.

Amazon works just fine. (well, it does for me?)
Article Marketing works just fine. (Not tried it but I know it does)
Adsense works just fine. (Makes some people a LOT of $$$)

FIVERR !! WOW, can't believe you put that in. We need a tenner.com and a fifty.com?

Twitter, Facebook and all the others work just fine?

Don't cheat and you will succeed.

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Dash Evra

14 years ago

I personally think you are giving horrible advice. You are telling people to give up on their business plan if they don't see any profit in a couple of months. How is that plan working out for you?

How is anyone suppose to build a long term business if they don't stick to it? That's the shiny object syndrome many people here have mentioned to avoid.

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

There is something really huge right now in Internet Marketing and you are most likely missing it..

Why?

Because everyone has you distracted on techniques that are not working ANY MORE...

Blogs had their day... Adsense had its day... Craigs List had its day...Social Media had its day... Article Marketing had its day...and Fiverr too

These are some of the things that if you got started right away you would have made a fortune by now... But you decided to get in after the parade passed you by.

Every few years (now months) a new system comes out that you can take advantage of while it is still in its beginning stages... Remember, when you get into something from the beginning, you are most likely not going to get banned for....

1)Twitter - following too many people in a day (that didn't happen in the beginning)

2) Fiverr - advertising your own website to clients

3) PPC - linking directly to affiliate sites

4) Article Marketing - linking directly to affiliate sites

5) Digg - posting personal articles

6) Stumble Upon - Liking Yourself

7) Youtube - utilizing copyrighted material

In every soon-to-be "great thing" there was ALWAYS a time when you could take advantage of the system

.......so

Now is the time to be looking for that "new" thing that you know is going to be hot. Take advantage of that system while you can...

Nobody is going to tell you what it is.. Nobody is going to help you.... Nobody is going to spoon feed you......

How will you know if it's going to hit the big time.....

You don't

You'll know you missed it though when people are making WSO's within the next year.

So my advice is to STOP what you are currently doing and start hunting for the next big thing...

Good Luck

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zoulkifl

14 years ago

Techniques that are not working anymore? I beg to differ.

1. Twitter works well, it's great you just have to know how to do it. Instead of blasting ads and promotions you could actually be useful and help out people. It's a mini community and you should behave accordingly.

2. Fiverr... I don't use fiverr but i referred a friend and not too long ago, i think it was 2 months ago and guess what he's getting paid and created a customer's base/

3. PPC... still works, you should not be doing any direct linking unless you have no long term goals. I did direct linking but made more money the instant i switched to building my list.

I'm just going to stop there but you should know to focus on one method and doing it well before making any incomplete conclusions and jumping from one thing to another

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tess47

14 years ago

Are you kidding me? Stop what we're doing, spend time looking around for the next 'BIG' thing while our profitable businesses using those tactics that "had their day" just fall by the wayside? I don't think so. Thanks for the advice, but I'll keep learning a bit as I go and doing what works for me

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J Bold

14 years ago

There is a good takeaway here, if you look.

Marketing to trends in the market can be a great business, and a way to get great spikes in traffic, but you will have to constantly be working to capitalize on trends where you get a lot of traffic in a short amount of time.

I am talking about marketing Super Bowl stuff around the time of the Super Bowl, soccer/futbol stuff around the time of the World Cup, Christmas sales stuff around Christmas time, etc.

This can be a great way to setup a business, just like any other...

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Trivum

14 years ago

Chasing the "next big thing"? ... No thanks. I'd rather not chase anything.

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omk

14 years ago

I agree. People should also remember that as with everything in life, I.M. also follows a cycle. If you constantly keep learning and looking out for what's new, you'll do okay. There is always something new coming out to take advantage of. After the "new" has gotten "old", they will close up the loopholes. Then you just move on to the next new thing.

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Mike Hill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by omk

I agree. People should also remember that as with everything in life, I.M. also follows a cycle. If you constantly keep learning and looking out for what's new, you'll do okay. There is always something new coming out to take advantage of. After the "new" has gotten "old", they will close up the loopholes. Then you just move on to the next new thing.

You're kidding right? The internet may be new (1994) but marketing isn't and has been proven that no matter which vehicle you decide to use (Radio, TV, Print, Direct) marketing will always still work. The only reason people say things like what you're saying is because, quite frankly your marketing sucks.

If people concentrated on marketing instead of trying to find "loopholes before they close", there would be a lot more production going on and a lot less bitching about how a technique doesn't work anymore.

Concentrate on fixing your marketing instead of looking for the next big thing.

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Fraggler

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Wonderful Warrior

So my advice is to STOP what you are currently doing and start hunting for the next big thing...

My advice to you is to work out why you have to keep jumping from trend to trend to keep producing a reliable income.

For example, you mentioned that AdSense no longer works. AdSense is still one of the easiest ways to monetise a site. But it is just a monetisation method, it isn't a business model.

Neither are Twitter, Digg, You Tube, Fivverr, Article Marketing etc.

These are all tools used to promote your business. They are a way to get traffic, to gain exposure, to generate leads for your service, product, or web site.

You should perhaps be looking at where you are directing these tools as perhaps you have missed the point of them and that's why you have to keep chasing your tail.

People still love to interact on Twitter, share their favourite and find new sites with Digg, more people are watching You Tube videos than ever, work still gets sourced off Fivverr, web sites still need articles for content. These methods aer very powerful when used to promote a well planned business model, even those using Advertising (AdSense) to monetise.

Sure, keep your pulse on what what will be new, but use the foresight to promote an already established business model. It will be a lot more worthwhile.

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kellyburdes

14 years ago

First of all everything that you say which has "had it's day" is still working great if used in the right situation. Secondly, looking for the next big thing is just about the biggest waste of time you can engage in. Frankly the WF is full of bad advice from time to time, but this might be the worst advice I've ever seen here (an award?).

Come up with a business, learn how to sell. Then do it.

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BIG Mike

Banned 14 years ago

The real moneymaker? Make sure everything you do today contributes towards some residual, long-term future gain.

The problem with your model is once you stop looking, you stop earning.

There's nothing wrong at all with keeping your eyes open for new opportunities that might be a good fit for your business model, but abandoning each one that works in turn to chase down a new one is just plain moronic.

I also think you're confusing "Trends" with "Fads". Your Beanie babies were a fad, which is something short-term, with no long-term benefits except perhaps, to collectors.

Adsense has been around for what? Seven or eight years now? That's a pretty darn long trend in my book. Hell, that's right up there with the Hula Hoop, LOL.

Just take a look around this forum - rather than monetize it with Adsense, Allen is running ads in the same format (look and feel) that Adsense made popular over the years, but under his own brand. So, while Adsense revenue may not be what it once was, he found a way to take advantage of a popular model and profit from it.

It's common for popular startups to go through a period of initial growth that outpaces their ability to manage it. Over a relatively short period, say 2 to 3 years, they finally "Catch Up", all the while refining their policies and procedures, and then it tends to stabilize for the long-term.

You define that as them "Screwing You" when in fact, they're doing nothing more than implementing measures designed to protect their business. They owe you nothing - you profited from helping them grow, so what's the problem?

Can't wait for the ebook and movie on your methods...you can call it "Scary Marketing".

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thehypnoguy

14 years ago

Here's a unique idea, create the next big thing. Then you profit no matter what. That is a much better model. Oh, and use all those other things that don't work anymore to promote it.

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Henry White

14 years ago

In other words, the "next big thing" equates to an excuse for chasing EVERY shiny new bauble that comes along - otherwise how will you know in advance it's NOT the "next big thing."

That's a terrible business model.

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christopher jon

14 years ago

This thread is amusing, an internet witch burning.

While the OP's post didn't do a very good job of getting his point across, he did have a good point. A couple of people picked up on it.

Could be better summed up with Stop following the herd because most of the herd aren't making very much money.

Too many people on this forum who still have day jobs throwing out advice like they are Frank Kern.

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Henry White

14 years ago

Originally Posted by christopher jon

This thread is amusing, an internet witch burning.

While the OP's post didn't do a very good job of getting his point across, he did have a good point. A couple of people picked up on it.

Could be better summed up with Stop following the herd because most of the herd aren't making very much money.

Too many people on this forum who still have day jobs throwing out advice like they are Frank Kern.

Or "...like they are the next Frank Kern."

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christopher jon

14 years ago

Or "...like they are the next Frank Kern."

That would be more grammatically correct or something... it's 2am, brain is in shut down mode and I'm drinking beer.

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Alfredo Carrion

14 years ago

I disagree with you here because you're basically saying stop exactly what you're doing and search for the next big thing. You're literally ignoring everyone else who isn't an early adopter - that would be bad news.

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Dean Jackson

14 years ago

The only thing I could do while reading your thread was...

*MASSIVE FACEPALM*

For crying out loud, if you're not making money online - don't try to tell others how to make money online!

This is by far the most stupid bit of "advice" I've ever read on this forum... sorry, but it's true.

Thanks to all who posted an intelligent reply before somebody takes this and actually starts chasing the latest and greatest method.

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michealrivera

Banned 14 years ago

Despite of all these negative comments I don't think that this idea it Too bad. Because if you are willing to take risk and you have a mean amount of money in your pocket too then you can try to reinvent the wheel. However i steel don't recommend to do this because it requires a lots of creativity and failure chances are more too.

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Daryl Lim

14 years ago

On the debate whether 'following a working plan and work it' and 'reinventing the wheel', my opinion is that it depends on an individual's desires.

If you want to make money from/on the Internet, take method 1 and work hard at it.

If however, you want to make serious big bucks plus satisfaction (but risking failure at a high percentage and wasting a hell lot of time), go with reinventing the wheel and do your best to find out the 'next big thing'. Once you're there you'll probably find yourself getting much more compared to a plain existing working plan, and who knows? You might be one of the pioneers in the area and might just continue to make even more big bucks producing products teaching the new system/method.

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MichaelHiles

14 years ago

Effective marketing is about AUTHORITY. When people make silly statements it's the opposite of authority.

There are only nine core business models on the web.

Period.

Slice it, dice it, chop it, mix it, stir it, blend it, regurgitate it... every sustainable, for-profit business on the internet is a variation of the nine core transaction models:

Brokerage Model
Advertising Model
Infomediary Model
Merchant Model
Manufacturer Direct Model
Affiliate Model
Community Model
Subscription Model
Utility (pay as you go) Model

So you can just run off trying to re-invent the wheel, but I can assure you that billions of dollars have been spent by much smarter people than the cumulative total of all the IQ of this forum combined (and that certainly includes myself) to establish and develop these core business models.

Of these business models, only a couple of sub-variations have been innovative enough to remotely warrant any sort of intellectual property protection in the form of a patent. The rest are simply digital renditions of business models that have existed since the inception of.... oh I dunno... money...

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Devid Farah

14 years ago

Oh wow...what i'm reading here....Fiverr, blogs, Adsense, Twitter, Youtube, Digg, article marketing... had their day???

Hey listen,Fiverr is a newborn! And all the other sites and methods you mentioned are great money making machines!

Sorry, but i don't stop what i'm currently doing....hey i earn money from those sites!

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JohnMcCabe 14 years ago

For all those defending the original troll, er, post...

The problem with the advice is NOT about trendwatching or keeping an eye out for new opportunities.

The problem is twofold:

1. The OP advocates gaming, exploiting, cheating, you pick a word, other peoples' assets. Taking advantage of loopholes until they close, then getting angry over it ('they screw you by closing the loopholes').

For example, he wasn't talking about Adsense, he was talking about using MFA sites spewed by software to game the system.

2. He's telling total strangers to abandon what they're doing now so they can look for sites, fads, companies and people they can exploit until they're of no further use.

Frankly, if the OP told me that the sun comes up in the East, I wouldn't believe it without my own window, timepiece and compass...
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zachary0611

14 years ago

Whats funny to me is that some of the people criticizing him are people who put out wso's on how to make money with the next big trend. (or is that ok because your building a list?)

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Greg Jeffries

13 years ago

This is completely true man. No ones going to tell you what that new awesome opportunity is to cash in on. My advice, submerse yourself into IM, learn as much as you can and when new potential opportunities come along, you'll have the knowledge to connect the dots on your own to monetize them before someone else figures it out. Then you can be the one who makes the WSO or product.

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

Originally Posted by extemporaneousM

This is completely true man. No ones going to tell you what that new awesome opportunity is to cash in on. My advice, submerse yourself into IM, learn as much as you can and when new potential opportunities come along, you'll have the knowledge to connect the dots on your own to monetize them before someone else figures it out. Then you can be the one who makes the WSO or product.

Thank you for not only bumping a very old thread with horrible advice, but also AGREEING with that horrible advice. Are you just trying to get your post count up? You're not helping this community, in fact you're doing the opposite.

If anyone is reading this, please let this thread fall into obscurity, no more posts. This is the opposite of good advice, and newbies don't need this stuff in front of their eyes.

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nicholasb

13 years ago

you would actually want to build your business based on solid principles instead of fly by night tactics.

I have been running my business the exact same way for 5 years and will most likely be running my business the same way in 20 years because I built my business on solid principles hat have been around long before the creation of the internet.

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13 years ago

I've posted this before, but I think it's needed more than ever...

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dndoseller

13 years ago

ha! its video. that is my little hint. video search is as big as google now. and yet no one applies the same simple seo strategies... hmmm. lol

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