Don't buy WSOs that sell money making "systems".

Buy tools! - software, plugins, services.

Well you will never see a realistic thread like that, because I don't believe it is possible. Posters of WSO's like to use grandiose claims to get you into the thread, and the method rarely delivers.

I can however, say that a WSO did make me money. The thing is though that I didn't follow it step by step, I took the general idea and found a different way to use it. There is no such thing as a paint-by-numbers method like most who buy these offers are looking for. If that worked, Burger King and Wendy's would be just as successful as McDonalds. But they're not. If you want your business to make unheard of amounts of money, well then you need to do something that is unheard of.

I believe that you will not be able to use just one single WSO to make money online because it doesn´t have all the information you need! I recommend using a set of WSO´s and merge the best tips or steps into your own plan that you are comfortable with... at least this is how I did it!

I choose to take the SEO route and I gathered all the info I could get and put it into one plan that ended up working for me!

Hope this helped

Highrank,
In short yes. There are some great wso's available but you need to be selective to find the ones that will work with your skillset and where you reside. You also need to do due dilligence before buying (as you should do with most purchases).
Istvan makes a good point in that all that glitters in the wso section (throwing big figures around) isn't always gold.

Rich

First mistake when you get into IM is to buy a money making WSO. Simply put, if they claim you going to make 1000s within a month ... walk away ... Actually, just don't buy any at all, unless it teaches you something (How to rank in google etc.)
What I suggest buying are services, where people will create and rank a web site for you in a niche that you pick or a coach / mentor that can walk you through and help you make your first $1.

Highrank,

I am new to IM and I got caught up in buying WSOs that promised riches as well. As of now, I have not made any money using any of the WSOs but I have developed my business plan and a method that I will be implementing based on the knowledge I gleaned from all of them. As others have stated, you probably won't find the answer in a single product but once you start looking for your own solution you will find it.

Randy

I've made money using the ideas in Colin Palfrey's Ghostwriting course.

I also learned a lot from books I purchased from Travlinguy, Peggy Baron, and CDarklock.

Since writing is my business I purchase items related to article writing and product creation. Since I don't build my own sites, the tools are not that useful to me.

I have bought many wso's and I have made a ton of money.
The secret is to read them and add your own twist to the idea and then TAKE ACTION.

I have bought countless numbers of WSOs.

While it is true that you won't get rich from just buying WSOs it is also true that you can make a lot of money if you apply what you read.

I am making money as a direct result of some WSOs that I bought and there is no reason why you should not be making money too.

You have to make sure that you pick the right WSOs and then take action.

HP

Because they get deleted. Especially the ones that link to the WSO. The main forum is neither the place to "promote" WSOs nor post "testimonials" (notice the quotation marks) regarding the "effectiveness" (again, notice the quotation marks) of a WSO.

Else, there would be a deluge of supposedly genuine testimonials about this and that WSO every day.

Buyers can, of course, post their reviews/testimonials IN the specific WSO thread, but not here.

Kenneth

Well, Of course WSOs have made people money. I have made a good living off of some WSO ideas. The key is simply trying them until you give it your best shot. I would stay away from these 'systems' or 'tricks'. They might have worked for a short time for the SELLER but usually never work when they are put up for sale. Why do you think they are selling their money making secret?

i have bought good wsos and bad wsos. It depends what you are focusing on. There are some good WSOs out there that are value for money and I have my favourite sellers.

I find it interesting to compare the general tenor of these replies with the length of time the author has been a member of the WF.

Like a great many others (most of whom will never post to this thread), I have made a LOT of money from WSO information. IMHO, the people who pose questions like this are merely looking for an excuse for their failure.

The mechanics of making money online are simple: find a market segment that has a need, then sell a product or service that fulfills the need. Everything else is minutiae.

Every 'system' has the above as the core basics. But there are an infinite number of ways to get the basics done, and an infinite number of ways you can fail trying.

But here's the thing - with the exception of some of the 'off-the-wall' WSOs, most of the how-to-get-rich-on-the-internet systems that end up as WSOs will work, if you put in the time and effort require to make them work.

I've never seen a WSO that duplicates my entire business model. I doubt if there will ever be one. Not because I do things radically different than any other reasonably successful marketer, but because I've tweaked (and am still tweaking) the techniques and tactics that I've learned to work for me.

If I were to detail what I do every day and offer it as a WSO, people would likely call it 'rehashed crap'. I guess it is. There's a little bit of nearly every WSO I've ever bought in my 'system'. My system is a rehashed, refined, reworked mishmash of techniques and tools that I've learned from countless marketers who have gone before.

So, my basic opinion is that if you haven't made money from a WSO you've purchased, it's your fault. I've yet to find a WSO that hasn't contained something that I didn't know, hadn't thought of, or had forgotten.

In answer to this point of your question, YES, YES and YES. My best one, I turned a $29 purchase into 1k$ and still get the odd $27 from it today.

I disagree, I'm not going to share this product or how to market it. It's as they say "my Baby".

I could do a WSO on the theory of how I did it, but to be honest, I'd rather just keep quiet about my methods and how I do it.

The knowledge I have gained about making money online has come from several WSO's. Some WSO's have been better than others, but I have combined the tips gotten from all of them into my own tactic.

Sometimes you just need to test things on your own and see what works through trial and error.

I can say with absolute certainty that there are people that have bought WSOs that I have offered and made consistent money from what they learned. My first WSO here taught how to create a certain type of site that would generate loads of traffic. A lot of people took action with it and a lot of people still make a good living or supplement their living with what I taught them.

That's just one example. There are many more.

There are good WSOs and bad ones. You need to use a combination of common sense and due diligence to weed through them. After that, you must take action... lots of action. Any course that provides an opportunity for income no doubt takes lots of hard work to accomplish success. You must be willing to dedicate yourself.

I am sure that there will be naysayers that claim that I am pulling their chain and none of this is possible. Those that don't believe that it is possible to learn something, take action on it, and profit from it are the ones that will forever be seeking the magic button that does all the work for them.

And to those that produce junk WSOs one right after another and fill the sales pages with misleading hype, you will never know what it is like to have a list of tens of thousands of people that respect what you have to say and recommend.

There's no such thing as a "One Size Fits All" WSO. Different niches, different users, different customers, and different markets all have special requirements to make ANY system work. The hype likes to tell us that you can apply any system to any niche, in any country, in any world, in any universe and in any period in history and still make a million bucks in your underwear!

Wouldn't THAT be nice? The truth is, for good WSO's, you have to adapt the program to your specific needs. Remember, it's impossible to tailor a WSO to everyone on the WF. We're a diverse group, after all!

That being said, yes, I've made money with WSO's, but never doing things exactly Step-by-step like they say. A tweak here, a nudge there, and a slightly different approach once in a while makes a HUGE difference.

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i suggest get a mentor who has been there and join a training program, make sure you pick the right mentor its crucial to your success online

honestly, any WSO that promises you money overnight, you can skip that.

IM is a business really and once you get the proper understanding of how things work, thats when you will make money. Besides that, most WSO that just a way of making money or again, stepping stones to help you around.


If I can give you an advice, stop buying and just stick to one thing and WORK!!!

Money is DEEP not wide.

I made over $30,000 from a WSO. That got me started into my business now which is thriving.

The WSO was guess what - a private label video series. I took this series and customized it. I wrote an ebook for the front end and an autoresponder series. I used the video as an upsell.

I created a free giveaway (standard stuff here).

I then rebranded everything and put it up on Paydotcom.com.

I had a slew of affiliates pick it up. Some well known ones too. And so it began.

So my advice. Purchase something you can sell - be it rebrandable software, ebooks, video,audio and do the work required to make a great product out of it.

Do not buy "make money systems".

The fact that I got so much attention from your thread title made me think you don't see that kind of thing too often.

Yes, I've had a few wsos, totally new concept, just following the instruction step by step and made money with it. Those ones, however, normally dies out fast.

Longer term plan - it may be good idea to spend money on coaching/mentor wso.

Learn how to do things by yourself: your own method, your own twist.

Only get the tools you need and the general methods that you can use on diverse situations.

I think you are thinking within the pond, and not really seeing the picture found on the entire web.

I have no doubt that a LOT of the systems and methods work in the WSO's - just as a lot of them work that you find on the web in general.

Having said that - my first off the Warrior Forum MMO Product I bought did very well for me.

I think what you are seeing is a normal lack of implementation on a majority of what is provided. Or perhaps, people get side tracked or realize a system is not their cup of tea and just abandon a project.

Having said that - I primarily follow the rule of buying the tools, but I do like to check out everything else and for the most part it is for my own personal entertainment.

Don't be so quick to judge all the offers as not being good or useful. Do take the time to ask questions and see if something within a particular method might be beneficial to your business.

Most of the WSOs I bought have helped me and my business in a way. I have read, added my twist, taken action. Well, some were just "not for me".
It may take a while before you learn how to pick up the right ones tho.

I got a WSO from E. Brian Rose on being a Google News publisher, and made money with it. I learned a lot from going through his course and becoming a member of his forum about Google News.

It was a lot of fun and I had many $100 and $200+ days with AdSense with that site. I never could repeat it a second time though. And my writer bailed on me unfortunately. But I was able to sell the site before that happened.

Yep. I'm someone who has purchased well over 100 WSOs. I actually stopped counting around 120 or so, so I suspect it's much more than that. Have all of them made me money? Of course not. But here's something to think about because I'm the type of person that buys something and immediately puts it into action:

The vast majority of them have helped my bottomline. So most of them have made me money. Whether it was PLR material, an article marketing strategy, teaming up with the product creator, using a word press template, an autoresponder series, how to use a certain technology, and whole gambit of other things.

There are certainly many WSOs that promise the moon and don't deliver. But honestly, we will never know any exact numbers because there are people that don't take any action either and just wind up buying the next, new shiny thing.

There's also something to be said about doing your due diligence and doing your best to make sure the seller has a good reputation, isn't hiding behind an anonymous name, and doesn't have a dearth of testimonials that are all just a little too positive. You should also know their refund policy ahead of time in case you do end up purchasing pure cow dung (hey, some of them are that bad).

On the flip side, there are some OUTSTANDING WSOs, some of which have already been mentioned. Now I can only speak for myself, when I buy a really good WSO I make it a point to contact the seller and give them my private feedback, I don't feel it necessary to post it in the main forum. Also, if it sounds too promotional to any one particular WSO, the thread would probably get deleted.

RoD

I buy lots of wso's... I feel like they are a bargain and while I am sure there are some duds and out right shams there, I haven't bought too many of them. Partly it's due to the fact that I am not really looking for a magic bullet system that will make me 5k by tomorrow.

But to give you an idea, I bought one that I was a curious about a few months ago and I decided to test it out as a case study to see if it was a worthwhile business to me and if it was scalable as the business model was completely different than my current businesses. I had my outsource team work on it for the last few months as we started on march 29th and it is now making $3000 per month. I spent a couple thousand and a bunch of hours with my team to get it to this level, but it absolutely has worked.

Now, will I pursue it as a business model, probably not as I found that it takes a lot of time and work to achieve those results and it ultimately isn't the best use of our time as we have better opportunities. But for many others, this wso would be great as you could certainly turn it into a full-time business. But it would be a lot of work on the front end. And before anyone asks, I will not reveal the wso. I am not anyones affiliate and I am not interested in people buying wso's on my recommendation and then coming back to me if they can't or won't do the work.

But to answer your question, yes.

Yes they can. They provide you with the tools necessary to make money online.

There are tons of high valuable info here and on many WSO's.

As someone said, just avoid the "push of a button money making systems" then i just do this way:

1) Buy one WSO when you see it's something really special. Do not buy every day!

2) Read/watch carefully, more than once if necessary

3) Take IMMEDIATE ACTION!

This last concept has been repeated so many times but there are still too many people that buy many WSO's, sometimes more than 1 a day and then they struggle to read them all and can easily get confused with so many info all together.

I find MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE to look carefully and decide to buy only when i see something perfect for my needs.
Then, when i buy something, i spend the necessary time studying the resource.

Last thing i do is to try to apply immediatly what i have just read/watched. Do not let the ebook sat in a folder of your pc for days but stay focused on that for the time it needs right after you finish reading.

I find this way i had much more success than how i used to do in the past, when i was buying tons of stuff, overloading info in my head.

FaBiz

Yep, I've made good money with a WSO - but it didn't make outlandish claims and was very repeatable

Yes, I made money with the first wso I bought. It was Dan Brock's No Skill Profits (this was way before Deadbeat Super Affiliate). It was my first ever IM course and it was the one that taught me the "technical stuff" of setting up a wordpress site.

If I am not mistaken it was one of the first IM courses on Amazon affiliate marketing at the time. So it was "revolutionary" to me then and I wouldn't have gotten into Amazon aff marketing if not for it.

I have never made money from a WSO. I make money from my own efforts. I do buy them and I do learn from them. Not a single WSO will make you money. You make you money.

I am not saying do not buy them. Do they are great resources if bought carefully. I learn from them. Put into action some tips and strategies and figure out what works best for me. I make my money not the WSO. Think of a WSO as a teaching method. Not a money making method. You will get much further that way.

That is my .02 cents.

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Buy WSO which related to your skills. Most of newbies look at the WSO title "Make $x,xxx" without focusing the method. Then they will not take action. That's the biggest mistake.

First decide your skills like SEO, PPC, PPV, Service etc and then find a related WSO and take action

When I read this I was thinking...

Wow, Someone finally did it LOL.

I make more money Hiring Warriors from the Services part of the forum

I think the mistake people make is expecting the WSO to really be a point and click solution, when infact nothing of that sort exists, and if it did it would be milked to exasperation

I have bought a few WSO's and in my opinion they have been very helpful. I have actually learned something from them. Although I have not made any money they have put me in the right direction and will certainly help with my business. I will be able to implement some of the techniques outlined in these WSO's.
Building an online business is not simple and defiantely not easy.

You have to go through a learning curve so information like this is very useful. Unfortunately we get lead astray by 'claims of easy riches' but in my opnion there is not roadmap to riches. It is all about the commitment drive and want. How much do you want success? How motivated are you to make it work? Determination,drive and action are the fundamental keys to success.

I know this will be silly:

I've bought a couple WSOs and did not take make any money, because I was doing something else that was making me money. These just were distractions. However, I did make money when I bought a wso about how to sell WSOs and I did it - I made money selling WSOs

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I find it funny that most "Make 1,234$/hour with 2 seconds of work" methods are written by people who don't really make that much money using them, but only know that they could probably make. Anyway, there's still some gold info in most WSO's.

Sometimes reading "Understanding Geological Formations" or "How to Construct a Mine Shaft so it Won't Cave in and Bury You Alive" is important also.

Having a tool that you don't understand how to properly use won't do you much good. Therefore, sometimes informational products are also useful.

I'm not saying that one is more important than the other. I'm just saying there's a place for both depending on your situation, your goals, and your current business needs.

I bought a WSO not too long ago about some fiverr techniques I was over looking. I was already successful on fiverr, but with the tips I got from there, I took it up a noch. WSOs can be hit and miss, but if you find one that seems good and you take action and do what it says, you should be able to make it work.

I bought a WSO in early 2010 that explained a method for Amazon Associates (cannot remember what it was called, or who created it). I still have a monthly revenue stream from this same system as of today, so some WSO's do work. This specific WSO required quite a lot of action taking, but it worked and could be outsourced.

Most people will not make any money with a WSO, even if the method works, due to several reasons including:

- Many will not take enough action to generate the success
- There are other costs involved that the buyer is not willing to invest in
- The buyer has a lack of skills such as setting up websites and email lists
- People are looking to make money without doing anything

A few have mentioned above about putting your own twist into the method, so i would like to stress that point. You must never follow the system exact, you must always do at least a few of the steps in your own unique way. Be creative in any method you try, and the results will be much better.

I agree with everyone that says something to the affect of you have to learn basics of internet marketing (or marketing in general) first...

I've known about the WF for years... but just recently (like the past 8 months, I've bought WSO's like crazy and some are really good - and some not so good (..for me)...

That's why now I treat them like any other product: see if it
fits with my current business model (or business needs).

Although sometimes it's fun to deviate a bit and test something new out. As far as WSOs, if it doesn't work you're normally out 7-10 bucks.

But anything that presupposes "easy money" via blind-following step by step should be a red flag - not that it's definitely 100% lie - I don't know about that - but you should examine it closely.

I've made money with a few WSO's - but not in a way that can be directly measured.

I personally don't think newbies should be buying quick-money WSO's expecting to make serious
money (especially if they haven't made any money online before).

It's probably best if you learn a set of skills (or learn the act of hiring others to perform skills first)

For example:

Action Skills: copywriting, testing & tracking, setting up stuff up (autoresponders, ftp, creating web pages, etc.), creating helpful products, driving traffic, etc.

Mindset Skills: staying focused, over-delivering, setting goals, thinking big, doing what makes sense, taking smart risks, continuing to learn (reading "success books" [i.e. Think and Grow Rich, etc.], reading strategy/marketing books, reading strategies on the WF/War Room, etc)..