Ezinearticles decline continues

In your opinion and according to the one piece of evidence the OP provides.

With respect, Rod has a lot of knowledge on this so his opinion is very valid too, it just doesn't fit in with your opinion.

Besides, you missed my point. I barely use EZA. I go direct to the blogs/sites and Ezines where my prespective customers are and get my articles syndicated there. That is the only place I want them, in front of eyeballs who want to read it.

I don't care if EZA's traffic goes up, down or to the moon.

So the fact is this. You have the one source the OP provides that says it's decreasing, this fits in with your opinion conveniently. Rod has 3 sources, one is his own articles, that fits in with my opinion.

Besides my response was directed at nicheblogger and his opinion that article marketing was all about traffic from directories. It isn't.

Incidentally, Chris Knight is a Warrior, you can settle this arguement by just asking him, he owns it after all. That way we can all get back to work instead of argueing over lots of different bits of data on whether traffic is up, down or whatever.

May I suggest TiffLee's excellent free ebook:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ml#post5553489

It will give you a great introduction to true "Article Marketing".

...which means you're getting a PR0 link for every article you publish. And, unfortunately, when most people say they use the article directories for links, it means that they throw up some kind of half-coherent article that's designed just to get a quick link from EZA (or GoArticles, or ArticlesBase, or wherever they're publishing) - instead of writing articles that are good enough to get syndicated and wind up building all kinds of links (most of which are going to be higher than PR0 and a whole lot more relevant to your site, to boot).

I hope you're not one of them. Otherwise, you're missing out on countless link building opportunities!

I have never really seen much traffic from EZA, but felt the backlinks were of some value, maybe not after Panda??

In the short term, especially when your site's newish, this can be a problem, for sure.

Of course, it was a big problem for article directory marketing, too, which is part of the reason why people trying to use article directories for their own traffic always lost so much of their traffic. :p

Take a long term view, Jimmy: the higher those sites rank, the more worthwhile their backlinks are to you in the long run. Sooner or later you end up outranking almost all of them, and have been building your business rather than anyone else's. And meanwhile, of course, since they tend to be relevant sites for your niche (of course, otherwise they wouldn't want your article in the first place?), you can get some traffic from them anyway.

The ones who don't keep your links intact aren't really doing you any harm in the long run. Meanwhile, just keep a "fill-in-the-blanks" DMCA notice ready to send out. It does work, about 99% of the time.

With the "autoblog" ones, you'll so rarely get a reply from those thieves that you may as well just send the DMCA notice in the first place, and save all the time by not bothering with the attempted email first.

It can be frustrating in the short term, but in the long run it pays off big time, and you're building up a genuine, asset-based business, and unlike all the people who rely on search engines for all their traffic, your business will never be "one algorithm-change away from a potential disaster".

As can be seen from its url, it's a subdomain of ezinearticles.com.

Measure Article Performance With My.EzineArticles.com

Did you? It is merely ezienarticles login page. A different user interface does not change ezinearticles into an article directory. That is what it already was.

Are you sick or something? If this is the best attempt at trolling you can do, it might be time to retire buddy. I think being proven wrong again and again is starting to get to you. :rolleyes:

EDIT:

Dave is just grasping at straws at this point.

This has been quite a problem for me as well. If you want, you can go premium, that might make a difference. Ezine is the BEST article directory, but you could submit one article to several other free submission sites for more exposure. I recommend GoArticles!

For article marketers, that's an advantage, not a disadvantage.

No article marketer wants their potential customer traffic going from a search engine to an article directory rather than from a search engine to their own site: those are not the people for whom articles are submitted to directories at all. :rolleyes:

Who'd want their own site to be outranked by an article directory? That isn't what article directories are there for, at all.

Thanks to the benefits of the Panda updates of 2011, we can now submit copies of our articles to Ezine Articles without the danger of that happening. It's made it much easier to rank our own sites for ourselves instead of EZA's site for them, and it's now easier for us to use article directories for the purpose for which they exist.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5075780

I believe EZA is still worth it to write articles and get sales and funnel traffic to your sites.
However, I stopped using EZA over 2 years ago. The payout versus the work was not high enough for me.

And I would rather keep my Articles on my own blogs and own the material !!

No ... not at all: I have no idea how substantial it's been. They say they're employing far more staff than they were a year ago, anyway, so let's hope they're working their way out of it.

LOL - maybe, I don't know: I sometimes feel that, myself, too.

I don't understand most of your post, to be honest, and don't know what African spiritual songs have to do with it, but it doesn't really matter.

I don't know if there's necessarily a "wrong site" to be on, anyway, on this question. It's all opinion, isn't it?

Many posting above clearly think EZA will have no problem lasting the year (and more); others apparently don't. It seems that perhaps you just have a "minority perspective" on the issue. Nothing wrong with that.

You mean like ezinearticles.com? :rolleyes:

However, what Alexa's continually leave out of the equation is that for everyone that loses during a algo change, someone else wins.

While Alexa is obviously a "glass half empty" person, I'm more of a "glass "half full". It isn't like Google says after each change that they are eliminating Ranks #2, 4, 5 and 8. There's still 10 top 10 spots, and there always will be.

For everyone that lost after Panda, like EZA, someone else gained. And this is why my own method of SEO which I've taught over the years is not to have one way to "optimize" pages, but rather use ALL reasonable options.

Using a variety of reasonable options protects SEOers from these changes. If one "style" of SEO falls out of favor, they have other pages that will become more favorable.

This is also why link diversity is so important. What Google likes today, they may not tomorrow. Plus, a good linking strategy brings traffic directly from multiple resources and isn't dependant on Google for 100% of it's traffic.

But back to the OP's point...I do find it ironic that those that defend EZA and it's losing business, are also the ones that blast the very same traffic/revenue model EZA is dependant upon. I guess EZA is stupid for making all those millions of dollars over the years and not building a "business". LOL

Perhaps that post was much less unambiguous. I have seen no indication that EZA is on a continued downslide, despite the reduction in traffic. On the contrary, this reduction in traffic is apparently due to the success of Panda in eradicating the SEO riff raff. Only the ill-equiped and handicapped writers seem to have been affected.

The benefits of EZA go far beyond SEO backlinks (of which are actually rather insignificant by comparison) including wide exposure, media sourcing, business credibility, syndication, brand equity, lead generation, joint ventures, daily email alerts in 400+ niches, RSS feeds, etc. In addition, Chris Knight will soon be adding targeted advertising services in selected niche categories.

Those who understand this business will continue to succeed. The rest will continue to sit, spin and wonder why their method is no longer working.

You've reversed cause and effect. Not posting doesn't mean their business failed. Business failure means they're not posting.

Nobody is saying that everyone lost everything. But pre-Panda there were a lot of people in here saying that article directories would never die, and Alexa was one of a tiny few people saying anything can die.

And then Google killed the article directories.

Not outright. They killed the ones that were full of garbage. But those happened to be precisely the ones that all the dillholes were jumping up and down about being the key to massive profits, because said dillholes were merrily crapping them up with spun PLR garbage.

We saw it coming, we warned them it was coming, and they just kept right on dancing around the altar of crappy articles from China and India at 50 cents per hundred words, throwing them through one spinner after another and heaping them onto a massive pile of flaming trash.

Well, we don't want to say we told you so, but... okay, yes. Yes, we do want to say we told you so. Because we damn well did.

Nor does that make it wrong, nor does that make it a lie.

(4 and 5 are basically incoherent.)

"Just because a point of view is more popular in Warrior Forum does not make it right nor does it make it the truth."

Now, granted...


...but I'm pretty familiar with Alexa's position on this matter because you sort of can't be a writer on WaFo without hearing all about it.

Her position is that using article directories as a source of backlinks and traffic has been wrongly positioned as "article marketing" when in fact there are several other ways to market products and services with articles, including the syndication method she herself prefers.

Which, incidentally, does not have a damn thing to do with SEO. So when people go around saying "article marketing is all about SEO," she waves a hand and goes "excuse me, but no, it's not." Which a lot of people take to mean SEO is not important or doesn't work, when in reality Alexa - like myself - simply feels that SEO is exactly the same kind of reliance on a third party that screwed the former EZA tycoons into disappearing from the forum.

Nobody is saying that you shouldn't ever do anything that relies on a third party. The argument from our side is that there should be no single point of failure (SPF). When you have an SPF in your business, whether it's your list provider or a search engine or your host or your domain registrar, then one company can make one decision and your business falls over dead.

The concept that rests on that SPF isn't dead. Article marketing isn't dead. Even article directory marketing isn't dead. Hell, EZA isn't dead. But if your business depended on the abnormally high ranking even complete crap got on Google when you posted it on EZA, your business is dead.

And that's a pretty damn specific death, when you think about it.

What we're saying isn't that you can't possibly build a business that relies on a third party site. It's that when you build your business entirely on a single esoteric concept, this is monumentally stupid and you should start doing some better risk management.

Yes; I'm sure they're not.

My understanding is that EZA's lawyer included that one, when they opened, just to make sure that they'd have a clearcut legal remedy if ever anyone "syndicated" every single article from the site and then "set up in opposition but using all EZA's content". Not a pleasant prospect.