A great piece of advice for blogging.

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A solid reminder piece of advice for anyone setting up a blog:

"To put it in mathematical terms, your blog popularity = Promotion x Content quality x Content quantity. If either of them is 0, your blog popularity is 0." - Ivan-Cherevko

It's such a basic foundation, but something that I belive is easy to forget. Too many people focus on just 1 element of this triangle.

I really liked the simplicity but effectiveness of this advice and so thought I'd share it.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotlinkz
    Great advice. It's unfortunate that people focus more on gimmicks than on building solid business models and foundations. The smooth sales letters filled with promises are partly responsible.

    Bottom line: There is no magic solutions other than inspiration, imagination and hard work.
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    • Profile picture of the author petemcal
      Originally Posted by hotlinkz View Post

      Great advice. It's unfortunate that people focus more on gimmicks than on building solid business models and foundations. The smooth sales letters filled with promises are partly responsible.

      Bottom line: There is no magic solutions other than inspiration, imagination and hard work.
      I understand your point completely, so often I see people getting distracted with insignificant points when their core business is flawed.

      This is why it's also advisable to talk to people about your business, and get a fresh perspective. Often you can be too close to the subject, and miss something blatantly obvious to others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I dont know much about Wordpress, but if i could offer any initial blogging advice to beginners... i would say use Blogger.com. It's a plug and play application, and you can setup a blog and customize it within 10 minutes. Plus incorporating adsense on the site is easy too. Plus they rank well in the search engines.
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    • Profile picture of the author WriterWahm
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I dont know much about Wordpress, but if i could offer any initial blogging advice to beginners... i would say use Blogger.com. It's a plug and play application, and you can setup a blog and customize it within 10 minutes. Plus incorporating adsense on the site is easy too. Plus they rank well in the search engines.
      Yes, and you could also wake up one day and discover you no longer have a blog.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by petemcal View Post

        "To put it in mathematical terms, your blog popularity = Promotion x Content quality x Content quantity. If either of them is 0, your blog popularity is 0." - Ivan-Cherevko
        Thanks, Pete - I've never heard this one before. I like it.

        Originally Posted by WriterWahm View Post

        Yes, and you could also wake up one day and discover you no longer have a blog.
        This ^^^^ exactly.

        Hundreds of Warriors (at least) have had thousands of blogs disappear there (at least) without understanding what they've done wrong. People who are unwilling to read carefully any of the many threads just like this one and report that "they've been using Blogger successfully for years without a problem" are just the lucky minority who haven't yet had any competitors "flagging" their blogs, and maybe they genuinely imagine that Blogger ("because Google owns it" :rolleyes: ) is somehow giving them something they can't get elsewhere. Avoid "Blogger" at all cost.
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        • Profile picture of the author domainarama
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Avoid "Blogger" at all cost.
          Not so.

          Use Blogger's 'custom domain' feature. That is, buy a domain name (such as an .info domain for $2 - or less than $1 if you know the trick). Use your domain name without the blogspot part of the domain name. Google gives you free hosting. They never touch custom domains.

          Get over your bloggerphobia. There's a cure for it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

            Use Blogger's 'custom domain' feature. That is, buy a domain name (such as an .info domain for $2 - or less than $1 if you know the trick). Use your domain name without the blogspot part of the domain name.
            Sheeeeesh ... are you really so badly informed as to imagine that this makes the slightest difference?! :confused:

            Redirecting a domain-name to a Blogspot blog doesn't change the fact that you're still hosting at Blogspot and still bound by Blogspot's terms of service in exactly the same way as if you used a Blogspot subdomain. It makes no difference at all!

            Why would it?! :confused: :p

            Please don't misinform people like this! :rolleyes:

            Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

            They never touch custom domains.
            Wrong, wrong, wrong. I know from my own, direct, personal experience that this is untrue. :rolleyes:

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...y-website.html

            Rather a shame that a thread with such a promising beginning, sharing something so interesting and potentially beneficial, has to descend into a discussion of this kind in order to prevent Warriors from being misinformed on a simple, factual matter.
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            • Profile picture of the author domainarama
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              descend into a discussion(
              Cut the schoolmarm act, Alexa. There are people whose job is to patrol this site for violations. You are not one of them.

              As to my reference to custom domains on Blogger, I stand by what I said ( = 'custom domains' on Blogger are not censored in the same way as blogspot domains). If you have experience that counters what I said please quote it directly as opposed to what you did, which was to refer readers to a long thread which might or might not have contained proof of your proposition.

              I have quite a number of custom domains, including one on 'making money,' which is in direct violation of the TOS which is enforced on regular Blogger blogspot blogs. You may or may not have experience with Blogger which is different from mine, but your experience is just your experience and is not definitive.

              Your rant against Blogger appears to me to be misinformed. Please consider the possibility that you might not know as much as you think you do.
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              • Profile picture of the author discrat
                Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

                Cut the schoolmarm act, Alexa. There are people whose job is to patrol this site for violations. You are not one of them.

                As to my reference to custom domains on Blogger, I stand by what I said ( = 'custom domains' on Blogger are not censored in the same way as blogspot domains). If you have experience that counters what I said please quote it directly as opposed to what you did, which was to refer readers to a long thread which might or might not have contained proof of your proposition.

                I have quite a number of custom domains, including one on 'making money,' which is in direct violation of the TOS which is enforced on regular Blogger blogspot blogs. You may or may not have experience with Blogger which is different from mine, but your experience is just your experience and is not definitive.

                Your rant against Blogger appears to me to be misinformed. Please consider the possibility that you might not know as much as you think you do.
                Alexa is absolutely correct !! What you say is absolutely nonsense.

                I know this to be fact. Back in 2010 I was written from Google that they flagged me and a review had been done at one of my make money blogs. And it was being considered a Spam Site and I had 14 days to refute it before it would be DELETED. It was a Custom Domain and like you I thought I was looked differently by Google than a blogspot. The Blog was over 3 year old and yet I was flagged as spam ?? How dare they

                This is real and backed by factual experiences!!

                So I ended up moving it to Wordpress. I also out of nowhere had a car insurance blog that was custom domain at Blogger and it completely vanished one day by Google without ANY warning at all.

                It happens and I promise you that it can happen to custom domains. I also argued here a couple of years back that custom domains were in a sense 'untouchable' . This is so incorrect and I learned my lessen that Google can and DOES go after Custom Domains at Blogger just as they go after Blogspots at Blogger.
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              • Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

                As to my reference to custom domains on Blogger, I stand by what I said ( = 'custom domains' on Blogger are not censored in the same way as blogspot domains)...
                Are you simply redirecting to a blogger site? In other words, if I were to click your site link, would it then jump me to your blog at blogger which would be "domainarama.blogspot.com"? Or did Alexa make an incorrect assumption?

                Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

                I have quite a number of custom domains, including one on 'making money,' which is in direct violation of the TOS which is enforced on regular Blogger blogspot blogs.
                Depending on the answer above, it may just be that you haven't come to their attention yet.

                If your blog is hosted with blogger and redirected, you are under their TOS. They bear some liability for your actions and will thus seek to limit their liability via that agreement you signed off on.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by domainarama View Post

            They never touch custom domains.
            To my own certain knowledge and from my own personal experience, this statement is factually incorrect.

            Hosting at Blogspot is hosting at Blogspot, whether you redirect your domain name or use one of their subdomains. It makes no difference at all to their terms of service in this regard, nor to their interpretation or enforcement of them.

            I have no more to say on that subject.

            Pete, I apologize for the disruption in your very welcome thread. I should perhaps have ignored my enthusiasm for correcting "urban myth" misinformation, on this occasion - please excuse me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I dont know much about Wordpress, but if i could offer any initial blogging advice to beginners... i would say use Blogger.com. It's a plug and play application, and you can setup a blog and customize it within 10 minutes. Plus incorporating adsense on the site is easy too. Plus they rank well in the search engines.
      I would learn about WP. It is a fantasitc, highly flexible platform you canse as a blooging platform, or as a CMS todevelop static sites. It's super easy to use, so you'll not find the learning curve a problem. The number of plugins availanb;l to expand WP's core fnctionality and performance is astounding.

      WP....... 10,000,000 bloggers can't be wrong

      Oh, and to the OP, that is apretty cool formula, and pretty darn accurate.
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    • Profile picture of the author petemcal
      Originally Posted by Sophia M View Post

      Good advice, thanks for sharing it petemcal! I personally would like to add some coefficient there when doing my blog. That is My blog popularity = 0.3Promotion x 0.5Content quality x 0.2Content quantity
      Hi thanks for sharing this further information. It's good to have a specific weighted breakdown.
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by Sophia M View Post

      Good advice, thanks for sharing it petemcal! I personally would like to add some coefficient there when doing my blog. That is My blog popularity = 0.3Promotion x 0.5Content quality x 0.2Content quantity

      I really like the coefficient values, which quantifies the equation in a way that makes sense to me as a relatively "math challenged" person. However, I find that multiplying 0.3 * 0.5 * 0.2 = 0.03, which of course, is a smaller number.

      For it to work, I think we would need to add the numbers, not multiply them, e.g., 0.3 + 0.5 + 0.2 = 1.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jashandeepmax
    Creation of blog is one of the best way .I am agree with your advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author lucidsuccess
    content is king, good content that is
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  • Profile picture of the author Tonylee93
    Originally Posted by petemcal View Post

    A solid reminder piece of advice for anyone setting up a blog:

    "To put it in mathematical terms, your blog popularity = Promotion x Content quality x Content quantity. If either of them is 0, your blog popularity is 0." - Ivan-Cherevko

    It's such a basic foundation, but something that I belive is easy to forget. Too many people focus on just 1 element of this triangle.

    I really liked the simplicity but effectiveness of this advice and so thought I'd share it.

    This really helps me! Now I know that I have to work harder with my blog to gain more traffic and finally make some converts in sales. I hope to get farther by the end of this month.
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  • Profile picture of the author EmmaWilliams
    It is quite an effective advice. Thanks for sharing it. Then again you might have the formula downpat but if no one reads it, then it is pointless. Aside from customizing my wordpress blog, I make sure that it is also optimized accordingly.
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Now THAT is a balanced equation!

    Great advice, thanks for sharing. It's so true though, most people end up compromising on at least one of quality, quantity or promotion (normally quality unfortunately) and then they wonder why they are not seeing good results.
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    • Content quantity: Blog once a day.

      Content quality: Obsess over it, make sure there are no spelling or grammar mistakes, pack it full of actionable information and -- no matter how hip you think it makes you look -- leave out the profanity.

      Promotion: Spend a couple hours a day connecting with other bloggers, forum posters, people in the field you're blogging about. Resist the temptation to pay for advertising. It won't help. There's no shortcut to paying your dues.

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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Promotion x Content quality x Content quantity ! This is so true !!

        Check this Thread out with a Member I had an argument with on their Forums concerning the third element. Its the last 4 Posts starting with me, discrat, giving advice to another Member at this GPT Site.

        He even goes far as saying,paraphrase........ 'look at all the people at Warrior who have one page blogs making it to #1 at Google'.

        Check it out as is it worth seeing the views others have that are not prudent

        http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=37460.0
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  • Profile picture of the author Avish
    Thanks For Sharing Such great Advice.

    The main part I feel with blogging is let people feel like keep connecting to our blog and thats why I really agree with your equation. Building Strong Foundations is Really Important these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author Google1982
    The best way to promote your website or blog , is just write good high quality articles and google will take care of the rest !
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  • Profile picture of the author CombatMode
    Originally Posted by petemcal View Post

    A solid reminder piece of advice for anyone setting up a blog:

    "To put it in mathematical terms, your blog popularity = Promotion x Content quality x Content quantity. If either of them is 0, your blog popularity is 0." - Ivan-Cherevko

    It's such a basic foundation, but something that I belive is easy to forget. Too many people focus on just 1 element of this triangle.

    I really liked the simplicity but effectiveness of this advice and so thought I'd share it.
    Agreed. Proposes an allround popularity formula .
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    In response to the posts which mention my custom domain claims:

    1. Like OP and many others, I would like to believe that quality posts matter. I really would. But 1) I have seen and continue to see awful, non-quality blogs do well, sometimes better than blogs that try to be original 2) some topics are written about and repeated so often there really isn't anything new to say, so the best one can hope for is the same old same old written in new words. IOW there are some topics about which the word 'quality' is irrelevant.

    2. The claim that custom domains have been shut down do not impress me and are insufficient to disprove my point (that custom domains are treated different from blogspot domains). If the webmaster puts up either a blogspot or a custom domain using Blogger's standard template they expose the domain to deletion. In the standard template there is a navbar. In the navbar there is a 'report abuse' button. Anyone, be it a business rival or a prankster, can click the 'report abuse' button. Google will then be alerted and might delete the blog as a result of the report. IOW the blog could be deleted because of an abuse report, not because of independent action or policy of the Google/Blogger administration.

    3. If Google/Blogger deletes a blog the general rule these days is that all the blog's contents disappear. This becomes a problem for an unprepared webmaster, but not for a prepared webmaster. Blogger has a simple, easily available method to back up blogs. A prudent webmaster backs up her/his blogs regularly so that even if Blogger bans the blog nothing is lost. The webmaster can easily transport the blogs contents to another Blogger blog or to a new WP blog. This operation takes only about 5 minutes.

    4. On top of that, I concede that Blogger has the right to set terms and conditions for the use of its services. Fine. But it does not have the right to make your property (the contents of your blog) unavailable to you. Some day some clever class action lawyer will make a lot of money suing Google for its present practice. An analogy: an airline can refuse service to an unruly passenger, but that does not give the airline the right to confiscate the passenger's luggage. Google does not have the right to keep your content IMHO.

    5. There is a lot of misinformation out there about Blogger. I find Blogger quite user-friendly and instructive. I have tested the limits of some of Blogger's policies and have found them to be a very useful tool despite their occasional lapses. In my experience their bark is far, far worse than their bite. The misinformation out there in the world about Blogger's bite makes a lot of people avoid something which could be very good for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    I'll add to the OP's equation.

    As popularity increases, the figure for promotion can be reduced. Momentum will take care of it to a larger and larger degree. The quality is a critical factor. Again, the more time spent in a niche, the better the quality without more effort.

    The point: stick with a viable niche, build authority and it gets easier. You can spend less time on promotion, and your growing knowledge of the niche makes generating quality content easier.
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