Is it Just Me? - WSO Rant

You are not being unreasonable, except in your choices for WSO's to buy.

If you keep buying WSO's that seem over-hyped in retrospect, you are saying a lot about how effective your BS-Filter is or is not.



P.S. When I want to leave a bad review on a WSO, I never ask for a refund, as some people will say that since you didn't -- in the end -- pay for the item, you don't have justification to leave comments on the offer. I have seen that card played many times. So, when I decide to write a bad review of the product, I never ask for a refund. It is a small price to pay, to get the right to warn off others.

Hey Justin, I understand where you are coming from. But, can I make a suggestion?

Rather then buying WSO's all the time, why not keep the focus on producing products to sell?

Some things to think about:

What made you buy the products you bought?
Could you make a better product, that actually delivered, and helped people?

You should always try and leave your honest feedback whether good or bad. It's how other customers, like yourself, can more effectively evaluate the worth of a product.

I'm not sure though why you would be bothered if a seller who sold you a crap product was to block you from future purchases? Why would you want to buy from them again? Maybe that's a bit of the problem.

Besides, the type of people who are selling the rubbish products are those who wouldn't block you because they want and need the money if you decide to buy something else from them in the future.

While I don't disagree with the point that I think you are trying to make, the above quote bothers me. How would a product creator know what information would be new to you?

Its very rare to see honest reviews ion the WSO threads. Most of the reviews are paid reviews that come without a disclosure.

We understand the seller needs reviews, but paid reviews at least should have a disclaimer in it.

I know exactly what you mean. It all comes down to some people being good marketers and persuading people to buy a product even though it's crap

Aren't income claims illegal?

How much is something worth when it's at a "super low" price?

Last weekend I was in town and I had a beer that cost as much as some WSO's.

Half an hour later I released it down the toilet.

Sometimes I think people expect too much for under $10.

With respect to the OP, I'd stop buying WSO's "all the time".

use my WSO BS filter..
as soon as you get just a little fed up by reading the WSO click that x right upper corner

Really I understand your point as 'buying Wso', specially because they are priced so low is really kinda addictive and you need to force yourself think twice because there are plenty WSO's out there that can really play mind tricks with you. Also offering thousands and thousands of words and 1xxx hours of vidoes should be a big NO NO filter.. who has the time to view / read all that? If you are for real in this business you don't.. of course for starters you need to learn but trust me.. doing learns much better and faster then watching 1xxx hours of videos!

I believe many of our 'gurus' here could easily go into politics (that should be the quote of the day). Speaking a lot and not saying a word!

What really annoys me is the time that you have to waste to find out that it's a pile of rubbish. That annoys me a lot kore than losing the $7.

I think you you probably answered your own question, but just don't see it. You obviously know better, but you still buy the offer...what does that tell you?

It sounds to me like you realize that WSO's with blind copy, outrageous income or traffic claims, etc., are total losers. You buy them because the copy was good enough to trigger the old greed reflex, even though you know you're going to be let down.

If you're tired of being mislead, then stop buying them - it's pretty simple. If more people would start doing that, it would go a long ways to eliminating those types of WSO's.

On the other hand, different people may get differing amounts of info out of the product. While you only got one or two nuggets out of it, it may have been pure gold to a hundred other folks.

The last time we ran a WSO, John included a detailed bullet list of the exact topics discussed in the PDF. So imagine my surprise when, out of a couple of thousand sales, only person asked for a refund, stating there was nothing new in it.

Uh, hello...LOL

I find a lot of gold nuggets in free WSOs and also WSO's that provide proof of income and a guarantee.
I have purchased some crappy ones in the past and have learnt my lesson from that.

Now I only buy WSOs that are recommended to me by someone or that are very targeted to my specific business model.

I also like to purchase software or plugin WSOs that make my work easier.

? what are you really peed off about, you say your having a rant about the WSO's but underneath all of that it seems your a little frustrated in finding something that works.

Lets face it if you had something that works you would not be buying every WSO out there, but right now your like a headless chook running around chasing golden rainbows and with each rainbow you follow your getting more and more frustrated.

And that is probably more common than not, but the one of the reasons why many WSO's fail is not that do not work or could not work but more so they are another mans dream / and or passion.

To many people say or ask how do I make money but forget the passion and as such find they do not like what they are doing and as a result, the claims of this does not work or it offers no value are are spewed out as a result and on the person goes to follow another rainbow.

I am not sure why more people do not find their passion first, then from there ask OK now I want to be involved with xyz what online methods will best work with this ? a blog, a web site or other, what other tools / WSO's will I need.

But instead people just read make 1 gazillion dollars while sitting on a beach and buy into that crap, like your doing now, so instead of wasting your energy announcing your rant and future rants if your latest rainbow does not shine sparkles out of your backside, sit down and find your passion then adapt the online tools / applications and related options to help fuel your passion.

Doing that would be a better use of your energy than playing a dummy spit game for everyone here and yourself.

When I buys a wso, I read the title and beginning - ie What does the product do. Then I scroll down to the buy button.

I can't be ****d with reading long sales pages.

If I have to scroll too far and therefore give up - I don't buy.

Most WSOs I buy have been recommended, either in a thread or by a fellow warrior.

I have the same thing in mind. I used to buy WSO 3 to 4 years ago but after I figured out everything (that most are always the same or just modified ebooks, ideas, etc), I stopped buying unless it is a promotional software.

Internet Marketing is alive because of sales hype so that's normal. Just be wise in selecting WSO to buy.....

I've also had a couple of those where I pay for something and I realize, or it's blatantly said in the sale letter: 'This and this won't work until you buy this...'

I hate that.

Then, if you ask half of the wso sellers "If you are so much confident, this wso will make me thousands of dollars, why are you selling it for $7".

wso seller - "I love to help newbies"

What can you say? Believe it or not, some people do lie here and they do lie all the time. There should be a difference between defending a good marketing strategy and a lie.

Then, if you ask half of the wso sellers "If you are so much confident, this wso will make me thousands of dollars, why are you selling it for $7".

wso seller - "I love to help newbies"

What can you say? Believe it or not, some people do lie here and they do lie all the time. There should be a difference between defending a good marketing strategy and a lie.

No, you are not being unreasonable. There are many people who are not expert themselves but claimed to be so by recycling informations that they get online.

I would personally buy a case study WSO since it gives me a concrete proof over something. I also like to study from a real example, not just theory.

One of the things I've learned from producing content and products is that it is impossible to please everyone. Do the best you can do, put it out there, embrace the fans and ignore the haters.

I'll give an example. I have a content business we're just starting, so we crafted this ultra spun article that took an Australian PhD student a week to write properly so that it read well every spin and was ridiculously unique.

I posted it on a forum, not here, but similar vein.

First person buys it, ridiculously glowing review after working with it for an hour or two. They reported two or three typos, we fixed them and sent out an updated seed article.

Second person buys it, within ten minutes of receiving the seed article I get a PM, "I want a refund, this is crap it is full of typos and spelling mistakes. If you don't give me a refund, I'll be forced to post an honest review."

I apologise to the person for the problem, gladly offer a refund and ask for their help in fixing the issue, could they please list all the issues.

I get an email back with 4 typos and 2 spelling "mistakes". Out of 15,000 words. And the two spelling mistakes weren't actually mistakes, the guy actually spelled them wrong himself.

So we fixed the issues, sent out an update to this guy and now our other customers and again we offer him the refund. No response.

Some people are just hard to deal with, I initially try and smother them with great customer service, but if that fails, refund them and move on.

Life's too short.

sorry, being really naive here - what does WSO srand for ?

hey justin

i hear what your saying and i know that there is some pure garbage that gets sold as wso`s but you just have to have your "bs detector on full"

it`s fairly easy to research someone these days online

i rarely buy wso`s but if was interested in one i would do some research on them first if i didnt know them to see what they have released previously and if it was good or not and also check out there online blogs or sites they have to see the sort of marketer they are

another thing i will say justin is you are one of the oldest members of this forum :-P

i would hope by now that being in the IM industry for over 10 years your bs detector is highly tuned

there`s nothing wrong with buying the odd wso which you think would help to push your business forward but anyone buying them on a regular basis makes it sound like there looking for magic pill :-)

paul

It is your conscious choice to continue buying WSO products. If WSO products aren't working for you, perhaps you should start looking for other educational/reference sources.

I'm not sure I'm completely convinced by the re-hash argument. After all someone mentioned it is only rehashed if you have seen it before. Let's not forget the while entertainment industry thrives on rehashing old content. Music covers, modern versions of old stories.
If I buy a WSO that I have seen all the info before I'll ask for a refund, but most times even one new twist will allow me to keep it.

From what I've witnessed as of lately, the problem of the WSO section is that buyers don't apply ANY type of common sense in their buying process. They are simply gullible customers buying into every sort of crap hoping to stumble upon an untapped gold mine just by buying WSO after WSO.

Here's a real example:

Few days ago I spotted a WSO that promised, literally, the following: "How to create a 6-figure business in a weekend" (that was in fact the WSO thread title). Upon reading this outrageous claim, and since he had posted no proof at all, I inquired the WSO creator to provide any sort of proof that he himself runs a 6-figure business himself, just so I could be sure that he in fact knows from experience what he's teaching on his WSO.

• Guess what #1: he refused to provide any proof whatsoever. I inquired again, to which he replied, literally, the following: I will not provide any proof. If that's a deal breaker, don't buy.
  
• Guess what #2: he sold out all the seats for this WSO (it was a $197 mentoring program), and there were even people queuing up asking if they could still buy in because they didn't want to miss out on such "amazing" opportunity... :rolleyes:

I couldn't help but wonder: how can anyone be so ****'ing gullible to pay $197 to a random anonymous dude on the internet who is unwilling to provide any type of proof whatsoever to back up his outrageous claims? It's so sad

That's the problem with WSOs: it's not the unscrupulous vendors... it's gullible buyers who encourage those unscrupulous vendors by buying into absolutely every crap released without conducting any common sense thinking at all.

WSO buyers... THINK before buying!

Good analogy Danielle, they have "peed in the pool" so to speak.

I never bought any WSO because they all look phishy.
I have only one idea about all WSOs and any other "courses": if something brings me great money I would never sell it. So the conclusion is that those guys make money by selling WSOs to other guys like OP.

This is not related to themes, writing and other services, it's only about "courses"/ebooks.

IMO.

I would follow bills advice. You should learn to discern the good WSO and the bad WSo's.

i understand where you are coming from and I must say that I agree with you as many promisses are made. Most of the wso's I bought are outdated or are disappointing. Especially the ones that are $9.95 and up. I found that usually the cheaper ones have somehat of a value.

I understand the setup of a good salespage, but it's refreshing to see a short and to the point salesletter that is not so hypie.
I'm also surprisd to see some feedbacks you get when you ask for a refund or post an honest review on their wso thread. My reviews or comments are always respectful, but sometimes i get a response that really surprises me. Like you, i'm holding the seller to what they are promissing. Nothing more.

Luckily most of the warriors are a great help and really friendly and every once in a while you buy a wso that is just awsome!

Good luck!

you have to understand that there will always be people that think a WSO wasnt worth it, while others think it was.

You should def stop buying them all the time, but as another person here said what are you expecting for $10 or less? a beer at some places around me is $12

To you it might be only 1-2 pieces of new information but to a newbie everthing in that WSO could be brand new.

One thing that you start to notice after awhile is most WSO's are all variations on the basics.

Some people might call this rehashed information, but truthfully there are only so many models out there.

either you promote someone else's product,

or

you can promote your own product

or

you can sell services online or offline

There are tons of variations on these basic models but nothing really truly revolutionary.

This is what you are probably experiencing because you have bought a bunch of WSO's and you have gathered all that information so maybe it truly is time for you to stopy buying and start taking action.

Having said all of this, I do realize that there are some people who are going to lie in their ad copy. But that is partly up to you to detect. If you see something that promises you $100,000 a month with no work, no effort, a true set it and forget business, all for $7. Well c'mon you are an adult and should be able to see through something like that.

It's a gentleman's club where they mutually post positive reviews of one's WSO to encourage sales or they may be affiliates for the particular WSO.