Method: Thousands of Subscribers for $15???

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Hey guys! What's up. I haven't posted here for a while. But I recently had an idea I wanted to see what everyone thinks about it. I LOVE list building. It's my favorite way to make money online, because it pretty much means instant traffic anytime you want, to anywhere you want.

So I've been devoting my time to list building methods and innovating in that way. I recently had this really interesting idea and I'm not really sure how it'll work out but I can stop back in and inform more as I progress.

My idea is... FIVERR! Haha. It's the place where we can get anything done for $5.00

"But Luke, your post says $15.00.."

Yeah and that's the thing. Here's my basic estimate:

Email list in my niche: $5.00
Clean email list: $5.00
Mail email list: $5.00

So I went on fiverr and searched for email lists. Yeah I know this constitutes as purchasing leads. But I wanted to remain clean. I don't want to get my IP flagged or any kind of weird email thing... make sense?

So I figured if I can get the data (leads) and then have them cleaned, then I can have someone else mail them for me.

It turns out that there are people on fiverr who do all of these things above!!

SO my plan was.. order some data, have it cleaned, then hire a dude to send like 5,000 of them for $5.00 to a squeeze page I create. And this page will have my opt in. So basically, I won't be emailing any leads that haven't opted into my list. And from here, they drop into a funnel where I sell like 5 different affiliate products with a high quality (possibly outsourced?) email series, optimized for conversions.

Hows it sound? Plausible? If anything, hope I've given away a sweet idea for you guys to try. Won't be surprised if I discover this in the WSO section in a few weeks. LOL

Peace!

Luke
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  • i also thought of a similar idea but not exactly how you put it.... keep us posted with your results
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    • Awesome, thanks for the feedback. Will keep you posted!

      Luke
  • Wellp I've managed to get my hands on about 31,000,000 emails through a single fiverr gig. LOL. Gonna have about 100,000 of these babies cleaned now and see if any of them are good.
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    • I think this would have worked in the 60's but 2012 no good
  • Good luck. As soon as people start reporting the URL in the emails, you're on a number of blacklists. So, any email pointing there goes away. And when a few savvy people report you to your web host, you're toast. Oh yeah... And if you use GoDaddy you could lose the domain the spam points to.

    Great idea. Let us know how it goes...


    Paul
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  • This is just a complete no no to me.

    I categorise lists into two basic types:

    An email list: worth absolutely nothing.

    A targeted email list: worth $$$s

    I would take a strong, targeted, opted in list of 100 people any day over an non-targeted, non-opted in list of 1,000, 10,000 or whatever.
  • What is the best way to build a targeted email list?
    This also means how to get targeted traffic to an opt in page.
    Quality traffic and a quality social network seem to be a key here I think.
  • The idea is good, though, I can't imagine quality leads being sold on Fiverr.
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    • Why not give it a try? Do what others won't do or blast you for doing. That means less competition Nice thinking out of the box regardless of what the results are.
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  • This seems like a good idea .... but i am not sure of that 31 million email leads you got and cleaning of them will take time and money Lol ....

    Sending email to them well gonna be hard that i can say of ... or it can also be expensive ...

    i would go with a small but effective list for doing this method... i too have a list of 20 Million email list that i just got a hold on from a friend and also 500 Million list that i previously bought ...
  • Nice idea looking forward to seeing how it all pans out.
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    • If you were sending emails in the 60's, you were a true pioneer:rolleyes:...or using some good drugs....
  • Well I saw this coming already, so I went over to dropbox and hosted my squeeze pages on there. The other thing you can do is just use a redirect inside dropbox and send them to your site.

    So I'm not gonna be risking any of my assets. Thanks anyway for your insight and care for my terrible failure hahaha.

    Well how else are you gonna build a targeted email list? They don't just come to you. There is work involved and you've gotta start somewhere, I don't mind filtering it down. Call me an optimist but I wouldn't be at all surprised to find 100 QUALITY emails inside this list of 31 Million. (Almost 10% of the population of the USA)

    We all want a targeted email list. And that is the end goal, but this is just how I'm choosing to get there for now.



    Thanks for your input! It's not too complicated. It's actually a lot easier than doing everything myself. Otherwise I'm stuck with traffic generation and all that jazz. Not my favorite part. Unfortunately though, that's the most important part! lol
    But I'm flattered that you think it's complicated.. Cheers, friend

    And that's why I've got the other $5.00 to clean em! I already cleaned 100,000 of em and I got 70,000+ back! I'm so stoked!

    I like your attitude bro. I feel like this is kinda the core of being an entrepreneur… trying new things and ideas and seeing how they work, taking the data home and coming to a conclusion for your next attempt! Probably why I love this world so much. lol Thanks for the encouragement!

    Yup, again, this is why I'm gonna take it slow, with 100,000 at first. (which is what I did) and get 70,000… what's wrong with 70,000 emails going out? 1% open rate would be a nice little 700 people seeing that email. From there it's just the click. And if it works, scale it up!

    LOL true that. I think majority of people were still using type writers in the early sixties. Maybe they were doing "Mail" marketing. "Buy 31,000,000 addresses and send a bunch of envelopes! haha my gosh. We live in a cool time.

    Thanks everyone for your input!! I'm stoked to have so much response and support! Cheers
    Best of success!

    Luke
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    • Apparently you don't consider your account in this forum to be an asset. You are advocating the sending of unsolicited bulk email, aka spam.

      You've been here long enough to know better. Advocating spamming can get you banned here. That's been the case for more than a decade.

      Now, for the benefit of the folks who haven't already convinced themselves this is okay...

      Using redirects isn't going to help much, if at all. Blocklist systems will usually track the links through to their end point.

      Putting the form on a free hosting service will probably just convince the human parts of the chain that you're a deliberate spammer, and give them more motivation to chase you down. If that happens, you've got an ongoing problem, as they'll often spend considerable effort keeping tabs on you, and reporting you to any service provider you use.

      That's one reason you so rarely see spam used to build a real opt-in list for ongoing mailing. It can be done, but the skills required are beyond what you seem to have, based on this thread. And it's pointless to go that route any more, as paid traffic is so cheap, and so much less troublesome.


      Paul
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  • What you are doing smacks of Nigeria to me, but then I'm biased, as I don't have a good spam filter on my email. You have just won 31,000,000 dollars in the banana lottery! I don't even use a list, or my list is social connections.
  • Well I think the norm is obviously to not condone this type of behavoir. Its spamming.

    On the other hand I have to think about how accustomed people are to spam and how many people actually would report you. I get tons of spam and never once thought about reporting someone (mainly because I don't read the spam).

    I also know there are tons of larger companies out there selling lists to each other. I mean lists are what makes the world go round in this economy (otherwise google wouldn't be trying so hard to have your info stored on every site possible).

    Still, the main reason I wouldn't do something like this myself is I realize the value in BEING ABLE to build your own targeted list. THAT is something I am far more concerned with than just buying some ****ty list of thousands of names.

    If you really think about it, if anyone had a GOOD list of that many names, why would they sell it for such a cheap price? Or EVEN a list they could make MORE than $5 off of (really consider this if I knew I could profit off a list I'm NOT selling it for $5). Because they probably used a scraper to get the emails like scrapebox. You are likely not even getting a list of real people, but business email addresses. I mean damn I'll scrape a list for you right now for free because those emails are worth nothing. =]

    So then you'd essentially be spamming businesses and not potential buyers. I don't know, I just know I don't trust fiver for something like this.

    -Red
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    • Red,You don't think any of those 10's of 1000's of people will hit the Spam button?

      You could conceivably go a long time before running into someone who knows how to actively report things, or it could happen on your first email. But that little button will do just as much damage in some cases.


      Paul
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    • Yes, it is.

      Trust me, it doesn't take that many people reporting you to put you on a blacklist. And getting off of those lists is a royal beyotch. It's the main reason I go with 'do as I say and not as I do' when it comes to using self-hosted email programs vs. third party services. I've got it covered now, but back when I was building the system, I got on one of those blacklists. I stopped getting spam complaints, which was only fair, because one large (three-letter) ISP was blocking my mail at the server. No one could report it because they never saw it. It took more than a few man-hours to straighten that one out.

      I don't know about Google, but I know my wife spends hours every night entering online sweeps and contests run by those large companies. I've read enough rules and TOS to assume that there is language in the rules granting permission to share lists 'with selected partners'...

      'Selected partners' usually means anyone with the rental fee.

      It's a lot more than paying a scraper on Fiverr, but you have permission to email.
  • This is a complete waste of time and can easily get you in trouble with the Fed's. Quantity doesn't equate to more dollars unless you have built the list yourself from scratch and developed a relationship with them.

    Why people insist on taking short cuts and failing then turn around and say the internet is a scam is beyond me. There are no short cuts... so do it right or not at all. Now there is nothing wrong with experimenting but you need to keep it legal.
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    Method: Thousands of Subscribers for $15???

    Hey guys! What's up. I haven't posted here for a while. But I recently had an idea I wanted to see what everyone thinks about it. I LOVE list building. It's my favorite way to make money online, because it pretty much means instant traffic anytime you want, to anywhere you want. So I've been devoting my time to list building methods and innovating in that way. I recently had this really interesting idea and I'm not really sure how it'll work out but I can stop back in and inform more as I progress.