If there's a link, it's inversely related.

There's no link whatsoever between school grades and entrepreneurship.

There is absolutely no link between school smarts and successful people. Many of the most successful people are those from very basic upbringings. If someone wants to make it happen they will regardless of their skills.

There are two types of people that get bad grades - one is the extremely smart person who is bored beyond belief by classes that are inadequately structured and lead (America blows more geniuses out of it's school systems than any other country). The other is the lazy dumb-f*** that just doesn't give a rip enough to bother to do anything for themselves. (yeah, I know there's a few that don't fit the mix but that's the general two types).

Okay - what about the geniuses that just didn't give a rip because they were bored. Grades: failing - but if they get on the net and it turns them on - people eat their dust. You get one of the other type that just doesn't have the motivation to do anything and they get on here mainly because they think it will be easy money.

So no - grades don't count. The one thing that college grads have going for them that anyone else with the same brainpower and entrepreneurial attitude hasn't got is years of practice in developing discipline to be able to sit and do the work necessary to get the job done.

In my opinion, there is no link between grades in school or basic writing skills with being an internet marketer with the intention of income generation. For a plain reason, technology does it all.

There are a lot of software's that can auto-correct your grammar, you can hire someone/outsource it to create your basic English needs and income does not equate to basic english, what I mean being an internet marketer its all about ideas and technical skills.

Yeah i don't think there is a link either, mostly because entrepreneurship is rare to come by. Most people are so skeptical and do not have the motivation to even start their journey.

I would say that it is a plus...it is surely an advantage and helps you develop good writing skills. But building a business is the combination of many skills and there are many people with good school grades that don't succeed in building a business maybe because they cannot organize and apply all the necessary skills.

As far as writing is concerned, I do think that those who excel at the art have an advantage over those who don't. Those who aced all their English courses in school will certainly have an easier time with content creation.

Since the vast majority of communication online is done via writing and text, underestimating the need for proper writing technique is a mistake. This doesn't apply if you outsource your content creation, however. But, when purchasing content, if you can't spot the grammatical and punctuational errors, how will you know if the content you bought is crap or not?

I'll be honest, if I've ever seen any link between grades and internet marketing, it's "the lower your grades are, the more successful you will be in internet marketing"

Obviously that is said for a good laugh. But if you really look into it, most successful internet marketing folks are horrible at maths & sciences (I wouldn't say English/Communication though).

I think there may be a few of us who sailed through school with mid-level grades simply because we didn't have the initiative to work hard.

After a few years in the "real" world we decided if we wanted to achieve anything worthwhile we we needed to put forth more effort and work a little harder.

What I learned in school did help me in many ways. But my grades were no indication of future success.

Rose

if you take online income as a hobby it will never give you a penny. but if you respect the income and work for that then you will definitely get good amount.
There are many people who are doing online marketing as a parttime job. they are doing good job and getting good profit. Its because they are taking it seriously.
nothing else.

To take it to the extreme, most scholars I know are not
interested in making money. They love the world of
ideas, research etc, and are often begging for money
rather interested in benefiting from their own work.

One of my professors in grad school wrote a book
that took him 25 years. It was a scholarly research
work and so I told him that he should write a version
for the common person, and how much money I think
he would make. He said that was not his purpose
in writing the book.

So it's not everyone who lives in the "how can I make
more money from this" world and the smarter you are
it seems the less likely you want to be paid for it.

There are a lot of broke PhDs.

-Ray Edwards

Low school grades earned in the past by an individual have very little direct relation to the actual future internet income potential for that same person. (There are many examples of this and you probably bought one of their products). Even if an individual ends up with grade one level English grammar, math, etc, upon eventually deciding to drop out and start a business instead, this same individual could very well enter the internet marketing arena and simply outsource all consumer facing presentations including sales copy and website content to qualified English speaking individuals. Many successful marketers with low school grades in the past operate this way. Thus the short answer is no, there is no link between school grades and internet income, or any future income for that matter. (sure your mom, dad and grandparents will tell you different, but these are different times we live in). It all depends on what you do with your other smarts. Choose a cubicle or other trade until you retire at age 75, or choose financial freedom with the technology and resources available today, low grades and all.

There is a link to school grades in terms of grammar and writing stuff, but I think the direct links stop there. Intuition, common sense, innovative mind, creativity, etc. can't be learned that much and much more bought.

Online guides and tutorials that are sometimes sold by other online businessmen can only take you so far because YOU are the main factor in your success in making and running sites. Learn, work hard, and learn some more then work harder.

Never ever thought of a relationship between school & my present work (income), they are actually not related together but one thing i strongly agreed upon. The things we do today are taken up by us in our early childhood days...

Those things & our age factor gives us enough maturity to work on our motives & do something different in present times...

I've never heard of a specific study showing a direct correlation between school grades and the amount of income one makes online. Having written that, there have been numerous studies between education and income earned in a general sense, however, that has little or no bearing on the specific question the OP posed.

Then there's the "self-education" factor. People who learn by simply reading a lot on their own or taking classes but not necessarily obtaining a specific degree. Personally, I think there are so many other variables to take into consideration that it wouldn't be easy to find a direct correlation between grades and the amount of income a person makes online.

One's "education" is NOT solely depending on simply attending school or college, there are other ways to obtain such said education.

And how does someone measure someone's wherewithal, resolve, motivation, etc.? The intangibles that really matter as much, if not more, are not easily measured. There are plenty of really excellent writers who aren't making much at all and there are also plenty of mediocre writers who make a ton, though they probably outsource their writing and their forte is marketing and selling, not writing.

It's difficult to really say one way or another.

RoD

I've worked hard all my life. I always had bad grades.

Doesn't correlate...

If you're determined, passionate and hardworking, you can be successful in "almost" everything.

There is a link. The dumber someone is, the more IM/MMO crap s/he buys and later regrets.

I know that's not what you're asking though. I graduated high school in a class of around 325. There were only four kids with a lower GPA than I had. Four. Duh.

I'm not going to list my accomplishments because that would be boorish and no one would care anyway. Though by many standards folks would say I've been successful, mainly at writing. I don't know many of the formal rules of writing, I simply recognize what works and what doesn't by "hearing" it in my head.

Also... I'm reminded of the number one self help - personal development guy on the planet, Tony Robbins. He was a slightly below student in school. He has a high school diploma.

If your english is poor just out source, or get a proof reader (these cost only $5 on fiver)

A lot of my successful Internet Marketing friends have had poor grades in school or have never even finished school, yet they are making so much money right now.

With that being said, the way that I see it is that you only really need a certain set of skills in order to operate a business. That skill would be how to setup and operate the business itself.

The skills that they lack may be outsourced to someone who can do it much better. This includes writing, blogging, web design, autoresponder setup, copywriting, etc...

So although those people who aren't making any money online are doing their own websites with the spelling/grammar mistakes and whatnot, the more successful IM'ers are doing it another way.

:-)

You'd have a very difficult time proving any kind of link.

Most of those atrocious websites were likely written by someone who has limited English skills (probably outsourced).

As for those that never make a penny - in most cases it is due to the fact that they are always looking for get rich quick schemes.

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I was salutatorian in high school. Aced Calculus II in college. Got one of the hardest computer networking certifications in the world. And all of these things were EASIER than starting and making my internet a success. So yes... lol... inversely related. All the "DUMB" people get cash fast lol.

Yeah, there's a link between inteligence and how much money you make online.
Mostly how creative you are, and how much action you take around those creative ideas... and how well you develop that ideas.

School grades are not in any way related to your IM income. There are some people who never even finished college but are among the wealthiest people on the planet. People become wealthy if they like what they're doing and know what they're doing.

You asked the wrong question I think.

Is there any correlation between GRADES and success in internet marketing?

No.

But is there any correlation between BRAINS and internet marketing?

Yes, absolutely.

I mean, let's just be real for a second.

Look at the top people in IM (the "Gurus" if you will) who everyone knows and recognizes as the top names in internet marketing.

Most of them are pretty articulate, and are decent writers.

Can you even think of ONE exception?

I can't. Frank Kern, Ed Dale, Eben Pagan, Mike Filsaime, Andy Jenkins, etc. All better than average writers and speakers.

Did they do good in school?

Maybe not, but if they did fail in school, it was because they didn't try, not because they were dumb.

Internet marketing is NOT for dumb people. Gurus might want you to think you can succeed if you're dumb, but if you're not smart enough to put together a coherent sentence, you won't be able to hack it.

Here's the BEST example I can give to illustrate this point.

Look at these "ZOMG INTERNET MARKETING DOESN'T WORK, ITS ALL A LIE WAAAAAAAAH" threads that come out once or twice a month.

Invariably, these threads are written by people with absolutely horrifying grammar and spelling, who can't string together two coherent thoughts.

You will not succeed in IM with an IQ below 70. You need to be able to at least understand basic shit.

Think of it like salesmanship. Most successful salesmen aren't geniuses, but they aren't retards either. You need to at least be able to understand some psychology to make the thing work.

People can disagree with this, but most people who do are probably selling something.

Just a heads up.

I ended up as a professional copywriter by accident. I say that because I want to stress that I didn't put any extra effort into learning spelling or grammar or basic composition. I just paid attention in school and did my homework. So when I see what the OP is talking about - just godawful communication skills - especially from someone who is supposed to be a marketer - it bugs me.

Marketing is a communication game. The internet is a communication machine. I'm not saying you have to be good at writing per se. You can get by on video nowadays. But you have to know how to communicate clearly. You have to know how to make a point, set up an argument, tell a story, etc.

That's just basic salesmanship. If you want to be successful at selling stuff, it's a must, and if you don't have it, people are judging you for being crappy at it.

Now, is that tied to grades in school? I don't think so. Not directly. Do people with better grades tend to be better at general writing stuff? Yeah, that only makes sense. But that's not the sole ingredient for success. I don't think it's the grades that count, it's whether you worked hard to learn in school.

I made good grades easily (it's not bragging - I went to public school in Louisiana, one of the worst in the U.S. education-wise), but I liked to read a lot extra-curricularly. I didn't think of it as pushing myself because I enjoyed it, but I did challenge myself. For other kids that maybe didn't find school work as easy, and had to work to get Bs and Cs, I think they have just as much of what it takes to succeed as I do. Put work in, get profit out.