A little rant about making money online. College Kid Edition ;)

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Hey Warrior Forum, how are you all?

So I would like to rant, or vent about my MMO experience,
and what led up to it.

Around April of this year, i've been making it with money here and there, able to pay for food and bus fare and other necessities.

I've been working on a clothing line since April, but it's sort of on hold because I don't have any funds to get them made and ship them out to people. I did find companies like threadbird whom I favored and would be my #1 pick, and some dropship company to take my order (forgot the name). So I decided to pick it back up when i have the capital to run it, not to mention i'm a one man team.

Applied to endless jobs, none called back, and I needed money for the summer.

So by time summer came, I was searching for ways to make money, I don't know how I found out about CPA offers, but I did.

Long story short, it didn't really work. So next I tried PPC, also a no go.
Then I went down the list, PPD, Adsense, SEO, MLM, etc.

And 4 months later, still not a penny to show for it.

So now it's fall, and i'm still broke. I spent $31 dollars for nothing, I would have spent more thanks to my due diligence.

It's my second semester in college, and i'm starting to get anxious. I'm looking to buy a car and also get my own place soon, so when I leave college I have a place ready.

I hear a lot of programs where people say they need full commitment, but I can't due to studies.

Everywhere I go, prices here and there, which is understandable since they have to make a living too. But I'm burnt out and had enough of ebook after ebook, people giving complicated techniques that newbies don't understand.I wanna give up but it's not in my nature to. I just really need to find a way. I'm good at scaling and making money grow, but how can something grow when it doesn't have a seed? I'm done talking your head off, just wanted to vent a bit.

P.S. In case you asked, My signature is some MLM program i signed up for lately, apparently you seed some sort of internet presence for it to work, so i'm considering quitting that.
#college #edition #kid #making #money #online #rant
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    • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
      Thanks Adie, i'll look into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
    First off, IM is not a magic pill. You cannot just enter it and hope to exit with an easy thousand dollars. Everyone who succeeded in this field have paid the hard work to study and try things out until they find a method that works for them. So I don't suggest that you go this path if you badly need money. A job will serve you better.

    With that said, I know that you don't want to give up. If you still want to continue with the search, I suggest you stick to the forum and stop the urge to buy some stuff. There are lots of posts here and in the War Room that can help you make the 'seeds' that you needed. There are plenty of methods that go around because each method is not for everyone. What may work for one person may not work for another person. Keep on learning and you'll get there.
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    • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
      Well said, thank you Aira.
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  • Profile picture of the author doshmachine
    Start Building a list and promote it. Get a squeeze page and sales funnel and start getting targeted traffic to it. Follow your audience! Provide quality content! Bingo!

    You have to do the work - so research list building and sales funnels then get the basics in place - over time it will make you money for very little outlay.
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    • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
      Originally Posted by doshmachine View Post

      Start Building a list and promote it. Get a squeeze page and sales funnel and start getting targeted traffic to it. Follow your audience! Provide quality content! Bingo!

      You have to do the work - so research list building and sales funnels then get the basics in place - over time it will make you money for very little outlay.
      Do you know of any free alternatives I could use until I can afford the costly ones?
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      • Profile picture of the author doshmachine
        Originally Posted by CasinoKiller View Post

        Do you know of any free alternatives I could use until I can afford the costly ones?
        Please PM me and I can give you some helpful tips on this and some free stuff when I know exactly want you want to achieve...
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        • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
          Originally Posted by doshmachine View Post

          Please PM me and I can give you some helpful tips on this and some free stuff when I know exactly want you want to achieve...
          Hey, they said that I needed to have 50 posts to be able to PM, so can I email you to get in touch?
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    • Profile picture of the author kstavert
      Originally Posted by doshmachine View Post

      Start Building a list and promote it. Get a squeeze page and sales funnel and start getting targeted traffic to it. Follow your audience! Provide quality content! Bingo!

      You have to do the work - so research list building and sales funnels then get the basics in place - over time it will make you money for very little outlay.
      I don't have any problem doing the work...

      You write "Start building a list and promote it"...

      HOW do you build a list? what do you do... steps to build
      a list?

      Thanks Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    Originally Posted by CasinoKiller View Post


    So by time summer came, I was searching for ways to make money, I don't know how I found out about CPA offers, but I did.

    Long story short, it didn't really work. So next I tried PPC, also a no go.
    Then I went down the list, PPD, Adsense, SEO, MLM, etc.

    And 4 months later, still not a penny to show for it.
    Dude 6 different methods in 4 months?


    How can you expect to succeed if you aren't even giving yourself enough time to at least learn the basics of just one of those methods, not even mentioning six altogether.


    I know it sounds cliche, but you have to choose one method and stick with it.


    So now it's fall, and i'm still broke. I spent $31 dollars for nothing, I would have spent more thanks to my due diligence.

    Ok, I am confused, you spend $31 on ebooks and PPC? Or just $31 total on ebooks?

    If it was $31 on ebooks and PPC I don't think that is really enough to test your campaigns to even see if they were working or not.

    It's my second semester in college, and i'm starting to get anxious. I'm looking to buy a car and also get my own place soon, so when I leave college I have a place ready.

    I hear a lot of programs where people say they need full commitment, but I can't due to studies.
    Full commitment doesn't have to mean that you spend ALL your time outside of school on making money online and sacrificing everything else in your life.

    It's not so much about the time you spend as it is about the focus you give to your efforts.

    For example someone could spend 8 hours a day on making money online but in that 8 hours if they are only giving it 50% - 60% focus their chances of success are probably not that great.

    But another person could spend 1-2 hours a day and give it 100% of their focus and attention and have way better success than the 8 hour person.

    So, even if you have other commitments and you want to make money, then it's up to you to decide what you give priority to.

    And it's up to you how much focus you are going to give making money online when you are doing those tasks.

    One othere thing to remember is that there are many, many examples of poeple who are in college and at the same time are working a part time job and still have time to have a life.

    These people are really good at managing their time.


    Everywhere I go, prices here and there, which is understandable since they have to make a living too. But I'm burnt out and had enough of ebook after ebook, people giving complicated techniques that newbies don't understand.
    A big part of the reason that you might be having trouble understanding the techniques might be because you are moving too fast from one method to another, and then another without taking the time to learn the basics first.

    Have you ever thought about that?

    Check out this link below, and look at post #66 by Nightengale.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-newbie-2.html

    Read what she has written 2 or 3 times until it starts to sink in.

    Especially the parts where she mentions the only 2 things we sell.

    and the 3 business models.

    Internet Marketing as simple as that but people overcomplicate things.

    So read what she has written, choose one of those 3 business models, and stick with it!


    P.S. In case you asked, My signature is some MLM program i signed up for lately, apparently you seed some sort of internet presence for it to work, so i'm considering quitting that.
    lol, yeah I was going to warn you that other warriors might just see your link and make a jibe remark about that without offering any advice at all.

    Anyway, hope what I have said helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
      Originally Posted by shane_k View Post



      Ok, I am confused, you spend $31 on ebooks and PPC? Or just $31 total on ebooks?

      If it was $31 on ebooks and PPC I don't think that is really enough to test your campaigns to even see if they were working or not.

      Anyway, hope what I have said helps.
      It was some program that I paid $6 for, and the owner of the program just took it and ran. It was only $6 so it didn't really bother me.

      And $25 for the MLM program in the sig, which i'm gonna remove after I quit. But since the post, ironically, the PPC ad i made 2 months ago made me 45.03, guess i spoke too soon, oops. lol:rolleyes::p
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  • Profile picture of the author Vadimarket
    Wait a second. Your signature says that you can turn 25$ into thousands. Why just not use this method yourself? Why struggle?

    Edit: Nevermind. Didn't read the last sentence..
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Lee Jr
    When I first started I used YouTube to learn IM. I would say learn and test some FREE methods, I did find a few gems that worked.

    But honestly while I found some methods that worked, what I was really doing was trying to find somebody that I can trust and would teach me correctly.

    ...And really that is my advice - find a coach/mentor (not sure how much money you can invest at this point) that you can learn from, so you can start seeing success.

    There is a great beginners course that is about to be released. If you want to shoot me a PM, I can tell you more about it.

    Edit: Just saw your post about PM's - If you want to put your email address on here - I will send you the info
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    • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
      Originally Posted by Martin Lee Jr View Post

      When I first started I used YouTube to learn IM. I would say learn and test some FREE methods, I did find a few gems that worked.

      But honestly while I found some methods that worked, what I was really doing was trying to find somebody that I can trust and would teach me correctly.

      ...And really that is my advice - find a coach/mentor (not sure how much money you can invest at this point) that you can learn from, so you can start seeing success.

      There is a great beginners course that is about to be released. If you want to shoot me a PM, I can tell you more about it.

      Edit: Just saw your post about PM's - If you want to put your email address on here - I will send you the info
      feedmypockets@gmail.com this is the one I check most often throughout the day.
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    What is your area of specialization?

    You can offer it as a service here, on your site, microworkers, fiverr, elance and the likes.
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    • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      What is your area of specialization?

      You can offer it as a service here, on your site, microworkers, fiverr, elance and the likes.
      Well i'm pretty good at persuading people to do things. Once I have full knowledge of the material that is.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    You have to stop jumping around and make a decision of what your plan will be. Just imagine if you would of stuck with something from day one. You would of been focused on succeeding with one thing no matter what. Its going to require YOU making a decision to stand behind something and sticking with it. Nobody can make that decision for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author CasinoKiller
      When it comes to the one I enjoyed doing the best. I would say Google Adsense. I guess I kind of got addicted to it after while and stuck with it...or well it stuck with me.
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      • Profile picture of the author kstavert
        Originally Posted by CasinoKiller View Post

        When it comes to the one I enjoyed doing the best. I would say Google Adsense. I guess I kind of got addicted to it after while and stuck with it...or well it stuck with me.
        I've had friends who've had their adsense accounts
        shut down/frozen for no apparent reason...

        these are people that I know well and know for certain
        that they'd not do anything they shouldn't have...

        so, not certain that I'd want to try adsense...

        why would you recommend it? Thanks Karen
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Keep working on it, and use free tactics for making sales. Can eventually become a large source of sales and traffic for you. Don't bet the farm on advertising... be very selective.
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