Are EMD websites still work ?

asepkomara

12 years ago

Hello,

Shockingly, yes it still work. I can show you some sites that rank well even after google latest updates.

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Brendan Mace

12 years ago

Originally Posted by abuziyad3

Hi,

I have EMD website built before 10 months, It makes to me about $300 from clickbank.

I am planning to build more like this website but I want your advice ,
Is EMD website still working and make money ?

If (No) what is the other and good method I have to do ?

(sorry for mistakes my English not mother language)

The EMD update was about penalizing sites with an unnatural backlink portfolio, it had absolutely nothing to do with content.

EMD sites will never die, because search engines need to provide relevant information. If a searcher types in visa into Google, they almost definitely want to visit visa(dot)com

The same thing applies for "blue widgets," or whatever else you wish to write about.

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Well, I broke myself of the habit of choosing EMDs and have gotten some really great branded domains for my ecommerce shops. The thing is, an EMD can still rank, but it's not going to rank because it's an EMD like it used to, so there's no advantage to using them.

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Edman15

12 years ago

As long you have unique and fresh content for your audience, EMD still work.

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Bukmedia

12 years ago

Sure they work, but if you're looking to build anything bigger then a mini-site, why bother?

With the recent Google updates - they don't rank as well as they were before so why not go for a branded domain instead like sbucciarel said?

Think of it like this...

You have the domain wesellbluewidgets.com - and you have a great response and want to expand to sell red widgets, are you really going to buy a brand new EMD domain and start over again?

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WholeSal

12 years ago

If you are only supplying one product I would recommend using an EMD but for an actually store I would come up with something branded and catchy like sbucciarel stated.

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WeavingThoughts

12 years ago

EMDs still have huge advantages. Just that you should do the rest of your work legit as well.

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by WeavingThoughts

EMDs still have huge advantages. Just that you should do the rest of your work legit as well.

Google has stated that they do NOT have an advantage now. The sites don't automatically rank for their keywords because of the domain. They rank because of the content and other SEO factors.

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CalinDan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Google has stated that they do NOT have an advantage now. The sites don't automatically rank for their keywords because of the domain. They rank because of the content and other SEO factors.

That's right... so theoretically choosing an EMD is just a matter of personal preference now.

I would still go for a more brand-able domain name, since it doesn't limit me in any way, and it can eventually be turned into an authority site.

Regards,
Dan

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abuziyad3

12 years ago

Thanks to all ,

Ok guys, What I understood is :

EMDs still working with ( unique content - updating content)

when I build EMD site with good content, Good and wiht SEO will rank in google and will get traffic from search engine .

I am happy to hear from you and If any body have more idea and information please do not hesitate to share them with us.

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MisterMunch

12 years ago

You can not take what Google say as a fact.

I bought a domain name this summer. The domain is describing the product group and is a good keyword (1000 exact 3600 broad in Norway). My website now have 30 pages promoting different products in this product group but have only mentioned the EMD keyword a few times.

Without even trying it is ranking for the domain name keyword. I do not think it is an authority website yet, so Google have ranked my website for this keyword only based on the domain (and the home page title and meta). I have linked to it from different social media websites with the domain name as anchor.

I think the EMD value has been lowered, but it is not extinct.

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PerformanceMan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MisterMunch

You can not take what Google say as a fact.

I bought a domain name this summer. The domain is describing the product group and is a good keyword (1000 exact 3600 broad in Norway). My website now have 30 pages promoting different products in this product group but have only mentioned the EMD keyword a few times.

Without even trying it is ranking for the domain name keyword. I do not think it is an authority website yet, so Google have ranked my website for this keyword only based on the domain (and the home page title and meta). I have linked to it from different social media websites with the domain name as anchor.

I think the EMD value has been lowered, but it is not extinct.

It's the anchor text that causes that. All your anchors have the 'exact keywords' in them because they're in the domain.

Linking to Fribildilalaycts.com with the anchor text enough times will cause it to rank for that anchor. SEO hasn't changed all that much and anchor text is still the key.

EMDs suck because they limit the potential of the website for little gain. Since they don't provide a boost like they once did, you're better off with bigger websites with more content on brandable domains.

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MisterMunch

12 years ago

You are probably right to some extent, but I would not be able to rank with this keyword without having it in the domain.

Since "natural" linkbuilding now includes linking with your domain/url more often, it would be a benefit to have at least some of the keywords included.

You are right that the domain often limits how far you can extend the content of your website, but if you make your main keyword broad enough there are many opportunities.

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

EMD's are alright.

All that's happened is that "thin, poor-quality" EMD's have lost some/most of the artificial advantage they previously had from their domain-name alone.
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PerformanceMan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MisterMunch

You are probably right to some extent, but I would not be able to rank with this keyword without having it in the domain.

Since "natural" linkbuilding now includes linking with your domain/url more often, it would be a benefit to have at least some of the keywords included.

You are right that the domain often limits how far you can extend the content of your website, but if you make your main keyword broad enough there are many opportunities.

It's like anything else. If the EMD is the right tool for the job, use it. If not, try a different tactic. I personally just got out of the 'build many little websites' mentality because over time I noticed that my small websites always ended up suffering due to neglect. Now I work on a couple big ones so they have 'cumulative effect.'

If you can still find top-level (.com mainly EMDs) for phrases with decent volume they you may still have a bargain. But if you're adding "x" or the word now to them, forget it

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MisterMunch

12 years ago

Originally Posted by PerformanceMan

It's like anything else. If the EMD is the right tool for the job, use it. If not, try a different tactic. I personally just got out of the 'build many little websites' mentality because over time I noticed that my small websites always ended up suffering due to neglect. Now I work on a couple big ones so they have 'cumulative effect.'

If you can still find top-level (.com mainly EMDs) for phrases with decent volume they you may still have a bargain. But if you're adding "x" or the word now to them, forget it

For my example, the keyword is not actually an EMD as i did not plan to rank for that keyword but for the different products in that product category. It just by luck started ranking for the domainname.

I speak norwegian and most keywords with .no is taken, but the .com and .net are still very often available. I try to use the domain as a brand, but it very much describe what you will find on the website.

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PerformanceMan

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MisterMunch

For my example, the keyword is not actually an EMD as i did not plan to rank for that keyword but for the different products in that product category. It just by luck started ranking for the domainname.

I speak norwegian and most keywords with .no is taken, but the .com and .net are still very often available. I try to use the domain as a brand, but it very much describe what you will find on the website.

Sounds like a good plan. If you can get .coms for Norwegian words you probably have found a very nice niche for yourself

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FreeMeal

12 years ago

What is meant exactly by a "Branded Name"?

Do branded domain names not contain any keyword at all?

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MisterMunch 12 years ago

Originally Posted by FreeMeal

What is meant exactly by a "Branded Name"?

Do branded domain names not contain any keyword at all?

Yes, branded domains are like twitter, facebook, nike, about, google, etc

They do not describe what the content of the website is about untill you have built enough exposure for people to understand what it is.
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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by FreeMeal

What is meant exactly by a "Branded Name"?

A "branded" name is one (like "Google" or "Yahoo") that has achieved mass public recognition.

A "brandable" name is one deemed by the person calling it "brandable" to have the potential to do that (though this hardly means anything, really, because achieving that depends more on how it's promoted than on the name itself).

Originally Posted by FreeMeal

Do branded domain names not contain any keyword at all?

Yes - typically they don't, so they don't in themselves describe the business.

Though they can include one, and therefore describe the business as well (like "Toys-R-Us" includes "toys").
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- FreeMeal 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  (though this hardly means anything, really, because achieving that depends more on how it's promoted than on the name itself).
  
  That's what I suspected. Much of a muchness really.
  
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Tristan Gemus

12 years ago

As long as the content is of high quality and updated then yes EMDs still work. However, mini-sites do not work anymore as Google wants sites with more content and authority rather than sites targeting >10 keywords. Build an authority site targeting 100s of keywords and you will be happy you did. I am

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If you are going for an EMD though, don't be scared as the domain has nothing to do about ranking (maybe a little). It's the content and backlinks that count.

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lloydmc

12 years ago

Despite googles monstrous, latest updates, I will have to say that EMDs still do work even in this modern google-controlled age of the internet.
Just as long as the content is of high quality and updated then yes...
you are in the safe zone.... for now.
so march on fellow and take action.

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innovative9999 12 years ago

Hi Member,

Google EMD discussion very useful for the improve SEO technique . It will accept only Unique content, for spammer it will google avoid those people .
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abuziyad3

12 years ago

Thanks to all , I found this discussion very helpful

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Harry Nguyen

12 years ago

I'm tired of the does this work stuff lol, yeah it works just keep doing it and putting up more content than usual. Man, just do it. Don't worry about it, don't wait. Keep doing what you do.

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chandan94 12 years ago

EMD website can not be ranked as it was earlier.
After penguin and EMD updates you can build EMD websites but
you should put some real efforts which google loves to rank your site.

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Bassosa

12 years ago

I bough a EMD just before the Google update and built a site with about 7 unique quality articles. It ranked well for my keyword but then disappeared from the rankings following the Google EMD update.

Added social signals and quality content and it popped out and is ranking really well now.

I have a feeling that the EMD update is one of the fairer algo updates from Google.

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