Keyword Rearch Broad vs Exact

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When using the keyword research tool i find some good keywords that have 1600 monthly searches and less than 5000 competing sites. Yet when i look the keyword under exact it says not enough information. I heard some people use the broad term successfully while others use exact how can i determine if my keyword is worth persuing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
    Anyone? I don't want to be targeting keywords that end up being worthless.
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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      Usually keywords found by tools that return broad searches are just that - too broad. The list contains words of the keyword phrase but they can be in any order in a search (or on a web page) and combined with any other words. Hence the keywords returned are often not well targeted to the niche that is being researched. Demand figures using a broad search are inflated.

      More reliable is to do a "phrase" search - that is, to place your keyword phrase in quotes so that at least a meaningful order of words is being considered and the people using that phrase are more likely to be interested in the same niche that you are researching.

      There are naturally fewer returns for a phrase search.

      An exact search uses only the words contained in your keyword phrase, in the same order, and with no other words added. There are fewer still searches for those.

      I find that phrase searches give me the information I need and indicate whether there is a satisfactory level of demand (and competition).

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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
    Like Ivan said... Use "phrase" match.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
    Thanks for the help guys

    So a keyowrd that returned 2400 broad and "need more data" on phrase match is useless? Also what range do i look for in phrase match to find if a keyword is worthwhile?
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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      There is no definitive answer to this - it depends on the niche and the price of the product, etc. I have a friend who makes a fortune selling a product that produces only 100 leads a month. His product sells for more than $100,000.

      For the rest of us, the usefulness of demand also depends on the level of competition - they both have to be looked at together. There's no point entering a niche that produces 1,000,000 visitors a month if that niche is so competitive you can't get any of the action.

      As a guide, consider a keyword that has 1,000+ searches and fewer than 10,000 competing pages to be very attractive. Fewer than 20,000 can still be appealing.

      It depends also on the keyword tool being used as some will identify keywords that actually have lower competition than the number of competing pages will indicate. You need to have the tools to find these. The figures above are meant only as a useful guide to find keywords as a basis for articles and web pages for your site.

      Ivan
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      • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
        Originally Posted by vicone View Post

        There is no definitive answer to this - it depends on the niche and the price of the product, etc. I have a friend who makes a fortune selling a product that produces only 100 leads a month. His product sells for more than $100,000.

        For the rest of us, the usefulness of demand also depends on the level of competition - they both have to be looked at together. There's no point entering a niche that produces 1,000,000 visitors a month if that niche is so competitive you can't get any of the action.

        As a guide, consider a keyword that has 1,000+ searches and fewer than 10,000 competing pages to be very attractive. Fewer than 20,000 can still be appealing.

        It depends also on the keyword tool being used as some will identify keywords that actually have lower competition than the number of competing pages will indicate. You need to have the tools to find these. The figures above are meant only as a useful guide to find keywords as a basis for articles and web pages for your site.

        Ivan
        By 1000 searches do you mean 1000 searches in phrase match?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Middleton
    If you find a good KW that you want to use, why not use both phrase and exact in your adwords campaigns. As you only pay when someone clicks your ads for the KW you can soon see which is pulling the clicks and what it is costing you.

    Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Helphrey
    That's a great question and I have often wondered the same thing. I think you got some great advice here. You may have to do your own research to see which tool is most accurate for your and then stick to the same process each time you do your keyword research.

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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    So monthly volume for broad search really doesn't tell you anything. Would you recommend only searching in phrase?
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  • Profile picture of the author Heimir Finnson
    Let's use the keyword "make online money" as an example.
    In broad match google keyword tool delivers 823.000 monthly searches
    In phrase match however only 2.900.

    Let's say I ranked #1 on google for that keyword and would get 42% estimated of the search value.
    I would not get 350.000 visits monthly would I? It would be more around 1.200 right?

    I'm just trying to get this right for once because to many times I stuffed up everything in the beginning due to bad keyword research.
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    • Profile picture of the author vicone
      Only estimates can be applied, but I'd expect traffic would be closer to the lower figure you quoted.

      It's also safer to use the lower figure so that when you do your estimates of optins and sales you have an idea what to expect and don't waste a lot of time and energy pursuing something that isn't here.

      If you identified a number of keywords where you had a chance to rank highly and then promoted those individual pages to push them up the SERPS (Search Engine Results Pages), collectively you could still attract a strong flow of traffic.

      The parts of your system need to work together in harmony. For instance, what action is required from visitors to your web pages - is it to click on Adsense, an affiliate ad, or sign up to an optin form.

      Your purpose determines the layout of your web page, and how to promote those pages, etc.

      You'll find it an advantage to have an idea from the very outset of the overall system you are planning. That alerts you to the different components which need to be in place and helps you to focus and not get distracted by all the appealing offers you come across that don't really assist with the model you are following. Fewer distractions and sharper focus bring results sooner.

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      • Profile picture of the author omurchu
        Just want to jump in here. If i type in "bridal" I get 110,000 results (in my area) on phrase match and only 590 on exact match. I am wondering how this can be if it is only a one word search?? Should they not match up in terms of the number of results?


        Any thoughts?

        Frank
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        • Profile picture of the author Wakunahum
          Originally Posted by omurchu View Post

          Just want to jump in here. If i type in "bridal" I get 110,000 results (in my area) on phrase match and only 590 on exact match. I am wondering how this can be if it is only a one word search?? Should they not match up in terms of the number of results?


          Any thoughts?

          Frank
          Exact means all they typed in was the one word "Bridal".

          Phrase match could mean they type in a phrase containing the word bridal. For example: Bridal flowers, Bridal Dresses, etc. etc.

          So naturally people having the word bridal in a search in google along with another word or two will occur more often than someone just typing the one word bridal alone.
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          • Profile picture of the author omurchu
            Hi Wahunahum:

            Ok I get it - have had another read through the help page on this - what you say is spot on.

            Thanks,
            Frank
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