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Has Windows 8 made it harder for you?

by CBusiness
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Has Windows 8 made it harder for you to feel comfortable with your computer?

I got the new laptop this year and to be honest, for some reason.. I can see my revenue dwindling with this if i were to make it my 'main' computer. I dont want to sit down and deal with this new windows template vs the easy read menu.

Just wondering if anyone else thinks this will effect their income?
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  • Profile picture of the author butters
    Originally Posted by CBusiness View Post

    Has Windows 8 made it harder for you to feel comfortable with your computer?

    I got the new laptop this year and to be honest, for some reason.. I can see my revenue dwindling with this if i were to make it my 'main' computer. I dont want to sit down and deal with this new windows template vs the easy read menu.

    Just wondering if anyone else thinks this will effect their income?
    Get a mac! If it affects you why not change to windows 7
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    Why would an operating system have any bearing on your business?
    There's no difference between Win 8 and Win 7 if you turn off Metro.
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    • Profile picture of the author rowbot
      If you don't have or want a touch screen (like me) metro is a pain. The quickest way to get by it so far is to have your desktop at the upper left of the start screen. Then you can just hit enter to get to the desktop.

      Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

      There's no difference between Win 8 and Win 7 if you turn off Metro.
      You got my hopes up, but it turns out that was only possible on the preview editions of 8, not on the consumer edition, unless you download third party software.

      Originally Posted by butters View Post

      Get a mac!
      Get lost.
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      • Profile picture of the author butters
        Originally Posted by rowbot View Post

        Get lost.
        Bit rude...
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        • Profile picture of the author rowbot
          Originally Posted by butters View Post

          Bit rude...
          Sorry Lee, maybe it wasn't appropriate if you're new to the mac pc stuff. It has tapered off now anyway, but it used to be a complete PIN. Try to sort out any pc problem and you'd get a bunch of posts like 'get a mac, all your problems will be over.'

          On top of that, when I did get a mac, it wasn't nearly as good as a pc I had that cost half as much. Still grouchy about that, and maybe some of that carried over to you when it shouldn't have.
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        • Profile picture of the author donhx
          Originally Posted by butters View Post

          Bit rude...
          Not really. MAC owners can be as insufferable as Vegans.

          Fact is, Windows has had a 85% market share for over 30 years now. I have noticed that Apple fans always try to minimize or rationalize that, but you'd need to reread my second sentence above to understand why.

          To the OPs point, new systems often slow productivity in the beginning because there is a learning curve. However, once learned, productivity often skyrockets beyond previous levels.
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          • Profile picture of the author cbader
            Originally Posted by donhx View Post

            Not really. MAC owners can be as insufferable as Vegans.

            Fact is, Windows has had a 85% market share for over 30 years now. I have noticed that Apple fans always try to minimize or rationalize that, but you'd need to reread my second sentence above to understand why.

            To the OPs point, new systems often slow productivity in the beginning because there is a learning curve. However, once learned, productivity often skyrockets beyond previous levels.
            No fanboy here. In fact I never have been a fan of apple's laptops. They seam really expensive and fragile to me. Oh and I hate the Apple mouse (I always replace that). As someone who works in IT who uses Windows, Linux and Mac... I still think OSX is the tops for now.
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    What is metro???
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    • Profile picture of the author troy23
      What is metro???

      Metro is the tiled interface.
      There is an option to switch to the desktop.
      Either way, it should not affect productivity.
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      • Profile picture of the author Helkat
        Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

        Either way, it should not affect productivity.
        Not to be rude, but this is a silly thing to say.

        1000 different things can affect someone's productivity. Lighting, office space, noise on the street, noise in the next room, did you have any breakfast, etc.

        Evidently a change in OS is affecting his productivity.

        Sometimes it's just a problem of getting over a learning curve: if you spend your day on a computer, you may end up with some pretty ingrained procedures you use to get a task done; some of this can be retaught, but it sucks at first.

        Alternatively, if you don't use a computer much, or don't like them, or don't feel comfortable with them, a change can be quite disruptive.

        Then again, if you are really shy of computers you probably shouldn't be in internet marketing. And if it messes you up that much, then you need to either take a class or take a week and figure out how to get stuff done, or ditch and it try something else.

        Can an OS change affect productivity? Sure. Just don't let it affect it forever.
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  • Profile picture of the author twister85
    Windows 8 has high compatibility and graphics, I'am using it for 6 months and here is what I think.

    Advantages
    1. Really good interface and graphics.
    2. All apps and softwares in one place (start)
    3. You can do several operations in same windows or shift the windows efficiently.
    4. easy to install games and apps through MS store.
    5. Mind blowing speed of startup and shutdown.
    and many more..

    disadvantages:
    1. when started the START menu is shown and you have to desktop so see it and it loads after you click it!
    2.You have to pin each and every program or software you use (even my computer) to start to access it quickly.
    3. On the first day it took me 30 minutes to find out where the shutdown button is.
    4. It does not support gadgets as win 7 does, so i have to download the win 8 gadgetpack externally!
    5. IT has a great skype app but when you come back to desktop it shuts down and when you click it it starts again loading your full contacts.

    else everything is fine!
    You may think that it hard to control first due to totally new experience but later you'l love it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jtone
    I've had problems with the swipe from site on the touchpad, when I type it shows up every time I accidentally do a swipe... trying to disable it doesn't work..

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    What an odd thread this is...

    No, it hasn't affected me in the slightest as I don't use Windows 8.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    Not to be rude, but this is a silly thing to say.

    No it isn't.

    There are far more harder things to master in IM than navigating around Windows.
    You can master the interface in a day, but you may not master IM in a lifetime.
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  • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
    I have Windows and I hate it!!! I'm going to grab Win 7 and install it instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Windows 8 (i.e. Metro) sucks - I've uninstalled all the Apps my new Ultrabook came with (anyone who leaves Norton on needs their head examining!!!!).

    I found some freeware apps that allow me to boot straight into the desktop, which is a nice Classic Shell XP clone.

    One thing I do love about Win 8 though - you can pause the file copying processes!

    Also Windows 7 is nice but the file copying is broken and it can cause you to lose files! Gotta love a company that releases a busted OS!!!

    Finally my Samsung Ultrabook itself is awesome and I find I use the touch screen a lot.
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    • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
      Originally Posted by brettb View Post

      I found some freeware apps that allow me to boot straight into the desktop, which is a nice Classic Shell XP clone.
      Hey Brett

      Which program did you use, I think I will try the same rather than putting Win 7 back on, I wasn't aware of the file copying issue.

      Cheers
      Phil
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    • Profile picture of the author robestrong
      There is a difference, even without Metro. I'm gonna stay on Win7. IMHO as far as Windows is concerned it's the best so far (I've used every version since '95).
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  • Profile picture of the author LukasSEO
    I wasn´t glad with windows 8.
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    I think the problem is you are not using touch screen. It takes some time to get used to it, but I think it is ok.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    I have both a Mac and a Windows computer. I use the Mac about 85% of the time but still like Windows also. I bought and tried Windows 8 and TRIED to like it...really wanted to, especially for only $40...but I hated it.

    Windows 8 can be pretty good on mobile devices and tablets but it's horrible for a desktop or laptop computer. I ended up uninstalling and putting Windows 7 back on there which I love.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperKristen
    I have two PC one running Win 8 and another win 7. I am using Win 7 as my main PC
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    Windows 8 is crap in my opinion and a total downgrade for Windows. I had a discussion with the technician then manager at a Windows store and after around 30 minutes of me arguing about how bad the OS is... the technician and manager actually agreed with me on many reasons why Windows 8 sucks. Windows 8 is the new Vista. Good move Microsoft.

    What really bugs me is that I can't buy a computer with Windows 7 pre-installed. When I called Dell and told them I need a Windows 7 PC, they said they don't sell them anymore and I would have to separately purchase Windows 7 and install it again.

    I have a Macbook Pro and find it very fast and useful as a laptop however it is not nearly as flexible as Windows (IMO). But I do like the simplicity and usefulness of Apple products (especially the iPhone -- loving the 5).

    Anyway... guess I'm sticking to my Windows 7 PC as my main computer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lambert Klein
    I hate it for a desktop.

    Sure, I have addons to make it put to the deasktop and add the start menu. Why should I have to do that?
    The IE 10 browser crashes every time I try to save a file. Using Chrome.

    Will be going back to Windows 7 when I have the time to do it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Saintsfan40
      Never tried Windows 8. I've had Windows 7 for 3 years and love it. I will say this, the worst operating system I've ever had was Windows Vista. Had it for a year. Never again will I go with Vista.
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  • Profile picture of the author cbader
    I want to really like Windows 7 and it's a big improvement for Microsoft. I haven't messed with Windows 8 yet, But OS X is still much better IMHO. Still far less crashes, easier use, unix, great software (iLife, etc..), and great navigation. Also if you have an iphone, ipod or ipad, your contacts, email, calendar, bookmarks all sync flawlessly. Plus time machine is a life saver.

    You can do this cheaply now. This is my new setup I bought a month ago and I couldn't be happier.

    Mac mini - $588 Amazon.com: Apple Mac Mini MD387LL/A Desktop...Amazon.com: Apple Mac Mini MD387LL/A Desktop...
    HP 20" Monitor - $99 Amazon.com: HP W2072a 20-Inch Screen LED-lit...Amazon.com: HP W2072a 20-Inch Screen LED-lit...
    Speakers - $11.85 Amazon.com: Logitech S120 2.0 Multimedia...Amazon.com: Logitech S120 2.0 Multimedia...
    DVI cable - $8.99 Amazon.com: Cables Unlimited 10-Feet DVI D M to M...Amazon.com: Cables Unlimited 10-Feet DVI D M to M...
    Grand total = $707.84
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  • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
    I havent read the entire thread, but my personal opinion is windows 8 sucks big time unless you have a touch screen. I bought my wife a touch screen laptop and she loves it, but using the normal mouse/keyboard setup makes it very frustrating to use. I will be sticking with windows 7 until I buy a mac because I will start building native apps for the iphone/ipad and requires a mac to access their sdk.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    And that is why I use a mac... Because it works and always has and when I get an OS update it enhances what already works and doesn't change it completely (like Windows)
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianGroan
    I had windows 8 but every time I moved the mouse it kept changing screens to those cube things, I just disliked it!

    The learning curve was not worth my time IMO, just stick to what your used to.

    'If its not broke, don't fix it'
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  • Profile picture of the author cbader
    Another thought. Smart phones and tables are where all the sales are, but how many people can actually work on these devices? At some point is seems like people will revert to something more productive than just a toy. Am I wrong on this outlook?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    I've been a Microsoft fanboy my entire life.

    I could rant and rave about this; but I'm actually sad about Windows 8.

    It's the first Windows OS I haven't installed months prior to its release. (I get them for free and ahead of the curve since a CS student & a member of MSDN academic alliance).

    What was Microsoft thinking with Metro man? WTF?



    Maybe someday I'll bite the bullet; for now I'll be rocking Windows 7.

    (I'm gonna be like one of those dudes who rock XP in 2013. Only the year will be 2020 and I'll still be using Windows 7).

    Mauahaaha
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  • Profile picture of the author Niko A Berezkin
    used it for 30 minutes before deciding to reformat with Windows 7..... many of my custom bots and software no longer functioned, so compatibility issues do exist with non-mainstream software.

    Only then I descovered that you need to go through a 16 step prcess just to change your BIOS to boot from disc as oposed to hard drive... sheesh. I kinda like being able to access all the "guts" of my computer without all the flashy interface junk.

    that's just me though.
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  • Profile picture of the author backlinkmasters
    I have found Windows 8 is a little odd to get used to at first, but as I have found, the more I use it the more comfortable I am with it and the more advantages I see with it. It is very smooth running and you can run multiple apps at the same time without slowing down your computer significantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author ejullya
    Hey CBusiness,

    Thanks for starting the thread. I was contemplating installing Windows8, but after reading this thread I am going to stick to Windows 7

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author miklanderson2
    I bought a computer with Windows 8 preinstalled and tried to give it a chance. I didn't care much for it and switched back to Windows 7. That's not to say it was horrible; I just didn't personally care for many of the changes made to Windows.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    Turn Metro off if you don't like it- It's really not difficult.

    Win 8 and the Metro interface is a huge part of Microsoft's future strategy with apps, cloud, xbox, surface tablet phone , xbox tablet etc.

    It's not going to go away and will be in foreseeable future versions. Better to get used to it because history will tell you Win 7 support will cease before long.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Buchinski
      Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

      Turn Metro off if you don't like it- It's really not difficult.
      And how do you do that?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by troy23 View Post

      Turn Metro off if you don't like it- It's really not difficult.

      Win 8 and the Metro interface is a huge part of Microsoft's future strategy with apps, cloud, xbox, surface tablet phone , xbox tablet etc.

      It's not going to go away and will be in foreseeable future versions. Better to get used to it because history will tell you Win 7 support will cease before long.
      And thats my problem, when you have to turn off the main functionality of an OS there is a problem. Second I dont like the fact Microsoft is telling me whats best for my computer use. I understand what they are trying to do, doesnt mean it works for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author RachelLily
    Windows 8 is really hard to get used to. Really, really hard.

    Don't get me wrong, even when when you're running through the install process, Windows 8 looks absolutely fabulous. Never before has so much elegance been wrought from such basic use of colour and typography. It's beautiful from the get-go.

    But when you get to the Start screen -- well, it's really that where it starts to fall apart for people.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    Quick article for anyone who wants to see the desktop back

    Windows 8 How To: 1. Switch Between Metro UI and Desktop Mode - Dr. Z's Blog - Site Home - MSDN Blogs
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    • Profile picture of the author Farish
      Windows 8 UI is fine for a tablet or touchscreen but many people dont like change.

      There are apps that will give you Windows 7 look on Windows 8.

      I would recommend that if you get a computer with Windows 8 just simply get an app that will give you the Windows 7 look.

      Get Windows 8 Classic Desktop Back with Soluto | Soluto Blog

      Somethings though to consider about using Windows 8 over Windows 7.

      Windows 8 is a faster operating system.

      Many test have indicated that Windows 8 boots up 50 percent faster than Windows 7.

      Windows 8 shutdown about 50 percent faster.

      Wake from sleep about 33 percent faster.

      Non gaming applications run about 10 percent faster on Windows 8 including web browsing.


      So Windows 8 is fine as an operating system as a whole, if you are unhappy with the UI, follow the blog link I posted from Soluto. They at least give you an option to get back that Windows 7 look.
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