Question about ClickBank's activation fee

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by bgva

If I want to use ClickBank as a payment processor only and not have affiliates promoting my product, do I still need to pay the activation fee?

Yes; you need it to be activated, regardless of who's promoting it, if you want ClickBank to retail the product.

ClickBank is not "a payment processor only" (like PayPal is). It's a retailer. "Your" customers there actually buy the product from ClickBank, not from you. That's what happens whether you, or an affiliate, generate the sale.

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bgva

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes; you need it to be activated, regardless of who's promoting it, if you want ClickBank to retail the product.

ClickBank is not "a payment processor only" (like PayPal is). It's a retailer. "Your" customers there actually buy the product from ClickBank, not from you. That's what happens whether you, or an affiliate, generate the sale.

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

My plan is to buy a PLR ebook and freshen it up a bit, new cover, etc, and sell it as an OTO for $7. I also want buyers to be able to pay with PayPal, but I don't want to use my own PayPal account. It seemed like ClickBank was perfect for this, if it wasn't for this high entry fee. 2checkout is also able to do this, but they are very strict on what they accept. Are there any other solutions that don't use my PayPal account?

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samanthamilner

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by bgva

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

My plan is to buy a PLR ebook and freshen it up a bit, new cover, etc, and sell it as an OTO for $7. I also want buyers to be able to pay with PayPal, but I don't want to use my own PayPal account. It seemed like ClickBank was perfect for this, if it wasn't for this high entry fee. 2checkout is also able to do this, but they are very strict on what they accept. Are there any other solutions that don't use my PayPal account?

I have been using CB for years now for all my ebooks and I really cant fault them and its very good for your OTO's.

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MrMonetize

12 years ago

I presume its to list it in the marketplace, affiliates or no affiliates.

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WillR 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MrMonetize

I presume its to list it in the marketplace, affiliates or no affiliates.

No, it's just to activate the product to allow it to be sold through Clickbank.

Simple as that.
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- MrMonetize 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by WillR
  
  No, it's just to activate the product to allow it to be sold through Clickbank.
  
  Simple as that.
  
  Right, I've never been a vendor on there, just an affiliate. Is that just a one time fee and anybody can promote it from the marketplace?
  
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  CTRTheme Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MrMonetize
  
  Right, I've never been a vendor on there, just an affiliate. Is that just a one time fee and anybody can promote it from the marketplace?
  
  Yes one time fee per product that you want to promote and your product forever stay there and affiliate will come to promote your products.
  
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  SunilTanna 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MrMonetize
  
  Right, I've never been a vendor on there, just an affiliate. Is that just a one time fee and anybody can promote it from the marketplace?
  
  There's no fee to be an affiliate.
  
  The setup fee is for vendors (using ClickBank DIY) one time, plus that they $1 plus 7.5% of each transaction.
  
  Here is a summary of the different types of ClickBank accounts.
  
  eBook & Internet Publishing News»Blog Archive » Changes at ClickBank - ClickBank Powered & Audience Builder
  
  I'm sure Harvey will be along shortly with a much more thorough explanation....
  
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  MrMonetize 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by SunilTanna
  
  There's no fee to be an affiliate.
  
  I'm sure Harvey will be along shortly with a much more thorough explanation....
  
  I understand, I've been a Clickbank affiliate for over 5 years, I've just never been a vendor and wasn't sure without looking on Clickbank of the fees. Anyway, $50 is nothing if you have a good product that sells.
  
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CTRTheme

Banned 12 years ago

Yes you need to pay that amount in order to sell your digital product in clickbank.

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gregdavidson727

12 years ago

I don't see why you wouldn't want your product to appear in the marketplace. That's FREE traffic man!

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bgva 12 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I don't see why you wouldn't want your product to appear in the marketplace. That's FREE traffic man!

My reasoning is that since it's just going to be a PLR with a facelift, and not a unique or original product, it's probably best not to list it in the marketplace.
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- Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by bgva
  
  My reasoning is that since it's just going to be a PLR with a facelift, and not a unique or original product, it's probably best not to list it in the marketplace.
  
  I don't know whether you can not list it in the Marketplace (I'm guessing that you can). I guarantee that Harvey will know this, anyway. You can certainly choose to "whitelist" affiliates and then simply not accept any (though setting the affiliate commission to 1% will probably serve the same purpose!).
  
  Originally Posted by bgva
  
  My plan is to buy a PLR ebook and freshen it up a bit, new cover, etc, and sell it as an OTO for $7.
  
  Well ... "good luck with that", as the saying goes: you may possibly find that you have to freshen it up a lot, for ClickBank to accept it. I'm not a vendor and have no experience of that. It's not quite as easy to get products accepted there as it used to be.
  
  Originally Posted by bgva
  
  I also want buyers to be able to pay with PayPal, but I don't want to use my own PayPal account. It seemed like ClickBank was perfect for this
  
  Yes, certainly. That makes sense if you don't mind paying them 7.5% + $1 per sale. (For a $7 product, that "+$1 is pretty significant, isn't it?!).
  
  Originally Posted by bgva
  
  2checkout is also able to do this, but they are very strict on what they accept.
  
  Yes, they have that facility, also. Hmmm ... you may be right, but I'm certainly not aware that they're any more selective than ClickBank is.
  
  Originally Posted by bgva
  
  Are there any other solutions that don't use my PayPal account?
  
  Yes ... Plimus (actually they're now called Bluesnap), Fastspring, and maybe others, can accept customers' payments by PayPal (obviously essential) without the vendor/merchant needing to use his own PayPal account.
  
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Entrecon

12 years ago

Would JVZoo be an option for you?

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Entrecon

Would JVZoo be an option for you?

It wouldn't be, if he doesn't want to use his PayPal account to receive the money, surely? Which is his "starting position" and his reason for looking at ClickBank ...
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MrMonetize

12 years ago

Heres a gateway/processor I bookmarked, Ive no experience of it but it looks professional.

https://merchee.com/

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proguy7

12 years ago

I bet Click Bank make a pretty penny for all those activation fees.

It's a shame because the little guys and gals, just setting up in the IM business, might not be able to afford it.

But that's the way it goes!

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by proguy7

It's a shame because the little guys and gals, just setting up in the IM business, might not be able to afford it.

Call me callous, but I look at it differently. From my perspective, someone who can't afford $50 shouldn't really be trying to set up any kind of "business" at all. Even in countries where $10 is a full day's pay, $50 is hardly a fortune to spend on setting up a business.

Financially, the entry barriers involved in online business are almost incredibly low.

It's not surprising the alleged failure-rate is so high, if people are setting up "businesses" at times that they can't afford $50.

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proguy7

12 years ago

Yes, Alexa, that's true.

But people living in third word, ahem developing countries, $50 might be a lot to them. Whereas without spending that money, they could invest in other things. Things that would allow their business to grow.

I am not talking about developing a $1,000 a day business, but even $5 a day to people in the developing world can be a life-changer.

I know, I have been to such places.

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bgva

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes ... Plimus (actually they're now called Bluesnap), Fastspring, and maybe others, can accept customers' payments by PayPal (obviously essential) without the vendor/merchant needing to use his own PayPal account.

Sadly, when Plimus changed to BlueSnap they made it so that you have to use your own PayPal account if you want it to be a payment option. I didn't know about Fastspring, though. I'm gonna look further into it because it looks very interesting.

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

It wouldn't be, if he doesn't want to use his PayPal account to receive the money, surely? Which is his "starting position" and his reason for looking at ClickBank ...

Yes, JVZoo uses your PayPal account, and so does RapBank, e-junkie, PayGear, PayDotCom and some others.

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WillR

12 years ago

Originally Posted by proguy7

Yes, Alexa, that's true.

But people living in third word, ahem developing countries, $50 might be a lot to them. Whereas without spending that money, they could invest in other things. Things that would allow their business to grow.

The other side of that coin is that the money people earn in third world countries is worth way much more to them than it is to us in developed countries. Some third world countries you could probably feed yourself for a week+ from the sale of one ebook. In developed countries you'd be lucky to feed yourself for one day.

So the payment you need to make might be a bigger deal to you but so are the profits you make.

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SunilTanna

12 years ago

Originally Posted by proguy7

I bet Click Bank make a pretty penny for all those activation fees.

It's a shame because the little guys and gals, just setting up in the IM business, might not be able to afford it.

But that's the way it goes!

There were 12,327 vendors listed in the marketplace yesterday. Let's say there are 20,000 people who've paid clickbank $50.

That's only $1 million, over the last 14 years.

Meanwhile ClickBank have paid their affiliates more than $2 billion over the last 10 years. Since ClickBank's transaction fees are probably approaching 10% (7.5% + $1), they've probably made more than $200,000,000 from them.

The activation fees are a relative drop in the ocean. I wouldn't be surprised if they only have them to deter time-wasters from using up their staff resources.