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11 years ago

Internet marketing can definitely replace a normal job. But, I would definitely start looking for a traditional job that you can have until you're making enough off the Internet - it's not going to be an easy ride.

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butterballs8 11 years ago

Internet marketing is a risky venture. You need funds to back up and ensure that you are not surviving solely on internet marketing. It takes months if not years to achieve success..... its not impossible, but with any businesses, it is risky, takes a lot of time to perfect and one must be dedicated, motivated and have eagerness to learn and want to succeed regardless of how many times you get knocked down
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Josh Monroe

11 years ago

To back up what others have said,

I would recommend getting another job, even a part time job whilst you work on "figuring the internet marketing thing out".

Making money online is easy.....Once your set-up, established and know what your doing.

At the beginning its EXTREMELY hard.

Heck, making the money isn't hard...
...Making the job quitting income is hard.

Anyone can hop online and make a few bucks here and there, but when you've just lost your job your going to need to consistently start pulling in four-five figures per month depending on what your used to living off from your job.

Plus to get started on the "fast track" your going to need some sort of funds available to invest into your online business.

Hosting, Domains, Auto-responders to name a few CRUCIAL aspects.

Then your going to need a marketing/advertising budget etc etc.

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WhereDoIEvenStart 11 years ago

What about outsourcing on some of the most difficult parts?
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- netmatrix 11 years ago
  
  Making enough money online to fully support yourself takes time. I recommend you get a part-time job to pay your bills... with enough time on the side to dedicate to internet marketing.
  
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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Josh Monroe

To back up what others have said,

I would recommend getting another job, even a part time job whilst you work on "figuring the internet marketing thing out".

Making money online is easy.....Once your set-up, established and know what your doing.

At the beginning its EXTREMELY hard.

Heck, making the money isn't hard...
...Making the job quitting income is hard.

Anyone can hop online and make a few bucks here and there, but when you've just lost your job your going to need to consistently start pulling in four-five figures per month depending on what your used to living off from your job.

Plus to get started on the "fast track" your going to need some sort of funds available to invest into your online business.

Hosting, Domains, Auto-responders to name a few CRUCIAL aspects.

Then your going to need a marketing/advertising budget etc etc.

Josh, thanks for you thoughts.

I already have an unlimited hosting account paid for 5years, I have about 32 domain names, I also have an Aweber account for auto-responders.

I can design websites using scripts like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Adobe Dreamweaver and HTML. I have the full Adobe CS6 Master Suite. Can work with graphic software like; Photoshop, CorelDraw cs5. I have about 200 turn key products I bought sometimes back. These turnkey products are eBooks which come with a build website. I have 24/7 internet, a 17incs laptop with an additional 24incs external display, and now I have all the time.

If I want to do this considering all the other comments, what is the best route to take?

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Tom Slipkus

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

Josh, thanks for you thoughts.

I already have an unlimited hosting account paid for 5years, I have about 32 domain names, I also have an Aweber account for auto-responders.

I can design websites using scripts like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Adobe Dreamweaver and HTML. I have the full Adobe CS6 Master Suite. Can work with graphic software like; Photoshop, CorelDraw cs5. I have about 200 turn key products I bought sometimes back. These turnkey products are eBooks which come with a build website. I have 24/7 internet, a 17incs laptop with an additional 24incs external display, and now I have all the time.

If I want to do this considering all the other comments, what is the best route to take?

From what I understand - you have web design/development skills?

In that case, the obvious answer is to offer your services - the competition's probably tough, but if you stay consistent and offer a quality service you can make a significant income.

Freelancing is the way to go first I think, and after you get back on your feet, start building a business online that won't depend on your labor.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Gediminas

From what I understand - you have web design/development skills?

In that case, the obvious answer is to offer your services - the competition's probably tough, but if you stay consistent and offer a quality service you can make a significant income.

Freelancing is the way to go first I think, and after you get back on your feet, start building a business online that won't depend on your labor.

Thanks Gediminas, this is exactly what am thinking of doing. For a start am thinking of making an offer on Craigslist, targeting my New York City local market, to design a simple website and host the site for $50.00. That also includes buying the domain name, designing the site and hosting for first month. Going forward the client will pay like $10.00 or more for monthly hosting depending on the size of the site. Also if the user wants me to improve the site and maintain it constantly, fee will be negotiated. I will also offer to host emails for the client if interested. The first initial low fee of $50.00 is primarily to create a customer based.

Can any one polish this idea if it's a venture worth taken?

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tooAlive

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

Thanks Gediminas, this is exactly what am thinking of doing. For a start am thinking of making an offer on Craigslist, targeting my New York City local market, to design a simple website and host the site for $50.00. That also includes buying the domain name, designing the site and hosting for first month. Going forward the client will pay like $10.00 or more for monthly hosting depending on the size of the site. Also if the user wants me to improve the site and maintain it constantly, fee will be negotiated. I will also offer to host emails for the client if interested. The first initial low fee of $50.00 is primarily to create a customer based.

Can any one polish this idea if it's a venture worth taken?

Your prices are insanely low. The least I would consider charging for those services is 10x that. At least.

Not just because it isn't worth the hassle to build a website for a measly 50 bucks, but you're really making your services look cheap and of poor quality.

If I was looking for a professional web designer and he gave me a quote for $50, I wouldn't even consider buying from him. That to me screams A) They don;t take their business seriously, or B) They suck at what they do.

Not to mention you live in New York. Lawyers, doctors, real estate agents, ect. in your city can afford to pay much more than that.

Charge for your services what they're really worth. Do you think having a client call you 2 or 3 times a month to change his header color is worth the $10/month you're charging him? I don't think so.

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rdbranson 11 years ago

IMO, web design and related is the last thing you want to get into, unless you really know what you are doing and have a very strong network already.

I have been advising entrepreneurs for a long time. The big mistake people make is not to understand market size and market share. I agree with the previous post that $50 is very little, but look around and you'll find a lot of people offering web sites for very little money. That should tell you something.

Next, are you experienced in working with small business people, say $500K and less?

Do not believe the local biz-offline hype about how easy it is to market services to that market.

There are a variety of ways that IM can work, but it is not simple or easy by any means.

One other thing, don't incorporate in New York State, except under special circumstances. In fact, again depending on your situation and business project, do a DBA (doing-business-as) first. It can save quite a bit of money.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by tooAlive

Your prices are insanely low. The least I would consider charging for those services is 10x that. At least.

Not just because it isn't worth the hassle to build a website for a measly 50 bucks, but you're really making your services look cheap and of poor quality.

If I was looking for a professional web designer and he gave me a quote for $50, I wouldn't even consider buying from him. That to me screams A) They don;t take their business seriously, or B) They suck at what they do.

Not to mention you live in New York. Lawyers, doctors, real estate agents, ect. in your city can afford to pay much more than that.

Charge for your services what they're really worth. Do you think having a client call you 2 or 3 times a month to change his header color is worth the $10/month you're charging him? I don't think so.

I agreed with you that the initial price is insanely low. I was not thinking of it the way you just explain it. I thought having a low starting price will enticed prospective client to want to have a site, and when they see what they get, will be willing to pay more. My idea has been between the range of $50 - $100. The $10 monthly fee I mentioned is just for the hosting. Monthly maintenance fee will be determined by the size of site and the work needed to be done.

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tooAlive

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

I agreed with you that the initial price is insanely low. I was not thinking of it the way you just explain it. I thought having a low starting price will enticed prospective client to want to have a site, and when they see what they get, will be willing to pay more. My idea has been between the range of $50 - $100. The $10 monthly fee I mentioned is just for the hosting. Monthly maintenance fee will be determined by the size of site and the work needed to be done.

I get what you're trying to say, Sam. But think of it this way:

How much is one client worth to a lawyer? I would assume it would be well into the thousands. So if your website can help your lawyer friend get just one extra client every month, don't you think he'd gladly pay you hundreds or more for a website?

Besides, I'm sure they spend at least $50 a day eating out.

I understand you want to upsell him on the value of the website later on, but if your client can't see the value of a website in the beginning, I wouldn't bank on him changing his mind later on.

Will it be harder to land clients? Maybe.

But if you charged $470 a month for a site, you'd just need to find one good customer instead of 10 cheap ones.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by tooAlive

I get what you're trying to say, Sam. But think of it this way:

How much is one client worth to a lawyer? I would assume it would be well into the thousands. So if your website can help your lawyer friend get just one extra client every month, don't you think he'd gladly pay you hundreds or more for a website?

Besides, I'm sure they spend at least $50 a day eating out.

I understand you want to upsell him on the value of the website later on, but if your client can't see the value of a website in the beginning, I wouldn't bank on him changing his mind later on.

Will it be harder to land clients? Maybe.

But if you charged $470 a month for a site, you'd just need to find one good customer instead of 10 cheap ones.

You have a point my friend, it makes so much sense! Yes it maybe harder to land clients, but two or three with a good pricing will make a difference than 10 cheap ones.

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Fredbou

11 years ago

I agree that offline is THE best way to go initially. Build up a client base and do a great job for them and they'll spread the word. Once you've got regular income then you can do the online stuff.

Don't do "cheap"! You're going to be dealing with business people who appreciate quality and realize that they won't get quality cheap. You're selling your life, isn't it worth more than $50 a throw?

All the luck in the World to you. I've been doing it for 18 years now and have loved it!

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erwinensing 11 years ago

Hey Samuel,

I have been in the same situation lost my job and was still doing internet marketing on the side.

Allthough i did not make enough sales with it, because its not predictable how much money I would earn selling an ebook.

I started with passive income affiliate programs to generate recurring monthly income.

This can grow every month and can get you out of the job

I still recommend look for one though, to fund the marketing of your future online business
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LJNetworking

11 years ago

Sorry to hear about your job loss, but it might be the best thing to ever happen to you. I would have to disagree with many on here about going out and getting another job right away. It sounds like you have been thinking about getting into the internet marketing world for a while now, but most likely your job is what has kept you from really jumping in and getting started. Sometimes being backed into a corner can help you succeed faster. Now keep in mind I am not telling you to put your financial future in jeopardy, so hopefully you have a little savings that will help you stay afloat while you launch your online business venture.

Here are the Most Popular Keywords, according to WarriorPlus:

638 wordpress
588 PLR
451 software
431 offline
410 facebook
349 free
305 video
285 SEO
250 CPA
236 mobile

Seems like the skills you have in building sites, graphical software experience and using Camtasia software could be very useful in creating and launching your very own WSO. One example would be creating a PLR package you could sell as a WSO. With you expertise in creating websites you could easily find some hot niches and create a blog that could be sold as a PLR package. You said you are very good at using Camtasia, you could create a video training course on how to create a blog in any niche in under 10 minutes. And walk them through the whole process from start to finish and sell it as a WSO.

Now I am not an expert in WSO creation, but there are many guides and tools listed in the War Room to help you. Just some ideas to help you get started. I know there are many other Warriors that started a successful career by launching WSO's.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by LJNetworking

Sorry to hear about your job loss, but it might be the best thing to ever happen to you. I would have to disagree with many on here about going out and getting another job right away. It sounds like you have been thinking about getting into the internet marketing world for a while now, but most likely your job is what has kept you from really jumping in and getting started. Sometimes being backed into a corner can help you succeed faster. Now keep in mind I am not telling you to put your financial future in jeopardy, so hopefully you have a little savings that will help you stay afloat while you launch your online business venture.

Here are the Most Popular Keywords, according to WarriorPlus:

638 wordpress
588 PLR
451 software
431 offline
410 facebook
349 free
305 video
285 SEO
250 CPA
236 mobile

Seems like the skills you have in building sites, graphical software experience and using Camtasia software could be very useful in creating and launching your very own WSO. One example would be creating a PLR package you could sell as a WSO. With you expertise in creating websites you could easily find some hot niches and create a blog that could be sold as a PLR package. You said you are very good at using Camtasia, you could create a video training course on how to create a blog in any niche in under 10 minutes. And walk them through the whole process from start to finish and sell it as a WSO.

Now I am not an expert in WSO creation, but there are many guides and tools listed in the War Room to help you. Just some ideas to help you get started. I know there are many other Warriors that started a successful career by launching WSO's.

Thanks for the suggestions and ideas.

True I've been thinking of IM for a very long time. That how I've got up to 45 domains names, unlimited hosting account, aweber account for email marketing, clickbank account for promoting affiliate products, and the other tools I mentioned at the beginning of the thread. My job has been standing on my way, working 10 to 12 hours a day.

I don't have that much savings to invest. But I think, I've got the tools, skills and time to get started on this.

One main thing about me, which can sometimes be a weakness is that I tend to be a perfectionist and when I decides to focus on something I don't accommodates any other to distract me.

This is why I asked for fellow warriors here to share with me there ideas and experiences, that way I can figure out if I need to get into this business full time now that I've lost my regular job.

I have got a lot of suggestion here which I think will help me make this important decision.

Thanks again my friend, and thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

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Marie Cody 11 years ago

Hi Sam,

Don't be that really sad when you lose your job. We an internet and you can earn with it.

There is only 1 things that you will really do.

It is to use your IM skills and skills also that you have. You may work online and earn and especially make business online or in your locale with your earnings as your capital.
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themodernworld

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

Josh, thanks for you thoughts.

I already have an unlimited hosting account paid for 5years, I have about 32 domain names, I also have an Aweber account for auto-responders.

I can design websites using scripts like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Adobe Dreamweaver and HTML. I have the full Adobe CS6 Master Suite. Can work with graphic software like; Photoshop, CorelDraw cs5. I have about 200 turn key products I bought sometimes back. These turnkey products are eBooks which come with a build website. I have 24/7 internet, a 17incs laptop with an additional 24incs external display, and now I have all the time.

If I want to do this considering all the other comments, what is the best route to take?

If you can design, you should look into doing some freelance work with your skills.

It's going to take time to develop a product. In that time, you're going to need money. I would try to find another job in the meantime, but continue to work on internet marketing. It can be an added bonus to your income. If you need fast money, there's always article writing or going on Fiverr, but even that can take a lot of hard work and time.

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markmcknight

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

Josh, thanks for you thoughts.

I already have an unlimited hosting account paid for 5years, I have about 32 domain names, I also have an Aweber account for auto-responders.

I can design websites using scripts like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Adobe Dreamweaver and HTML. I have the full Adobe CS6 Master Suite. Can work with graphic software like; Photoshop, CorelDraw cs5. I have about 200 turn key products I bought sometimes back. These turnkey products are eBooks which come with a build website. I have 24/7 internet, a 17incs laptop with an additional 24incs external display, and now I have all the time.

If I want to do this considering all the other comments, what is the best route to take?

I think the best route for you to take is to find a mentor in the internet marketing niche. There are quite a few of them. They have been there and done it and will show you how to quickly get up and running and making money.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by markmcknight

I think the best route for you to take is to find a mentor in the internet marketing niche. There are quite a few of them. They have been there and done it and will show you how to quickly get up and running and making money.

Mark thanks for your suggestion. Can you recommend me a good mentor who will consider me a potential great success story, than a potential prey.

There is noting so good as having a mentor when you want to learn a skill or a trade. But in my current circumstance, I don't think I could afford one. Because I see all the mentoring programs that assure you of making money in you first 30 days cost hundreds to thousands of dollars. Also I will need a real mentor, one I can pick the phone talk to, one that will tell me directly do A, B, C to achieve this, one that I can see not just as a mentor but as a partner. A mentor like this nowadays cost money which I can't afford.

But if there is any mentor in the thread or forum, who will see the long term rewards and is so kind to give me what I will describe as "once in a life time opportunity" to help me get out of this rough seas, I will tremendously forever be grateful.

I think I have some great skills already and tools to get me started in this internet marketing business and see a much faster result. The problem here is, how can I put these skills together and get started.

Once again thanks for your comment and for the comments of all. Deeply appreciate.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Art of Marketing

Hey Sam,

Congratulations on losing your job!

I say it like that because it can be a truly life changing event as long as you have enough for food and shelter.

I browsed this thread rather quickly but I saw no mention of this.

I take in where you are...any resources you may have then .think of how to quickly place you in a situation with money in your account...not becoming a marketing expert. That is a by product that happens naturally later.

You can build sites....you need cash soon not later.

Gather all you can..and I mean everything on SITE FLIPPING.

Set up your account as if you will be doing this long term for a living...a cool and professional sounding Flippa profile name.

Study...but fast.

Begin creating a site that will have appeal to others.

Many sites can sell for a couple hundred with no revenue...but imagine if you can get just a tiny bit of revenue? You will be flipping for some nice amounts then.

Just do this...do not get distracted and after several successful flips then you can share your new WSO on how you made bank with Flippa.

Heck you can even begin documenting every thing you do via screen capture or video and you are creating your future product right from the start.

You need help with any specifics just shoot me a PM.

-Art

Thanks Art,

This sounds interesting and I will look into flippa. I've some few websites I have created for myself which I think are good ideas. I was thinking that if I can get two of these sold for a good amount will be a great starting point for me.

Yesterday after starting this thread, I started building a site I called Brokers Depot Dot Com. The idea is to create a directory online where you can find all categories of reliable and trustworthy brokers from New York City to around the world. I am obsess with the idea, I love it! But again I said to myself if I can get some who is really interested in this idea as I do, and will like to acquire this site, I will sell it after completely build it. That will at least get me started. This has been just a wishful thinking.

Am also thinking that if I get in touch with brokers I know ask them to be my site pioneers and give them a special promotion on the site, I can turn the site into a steady recurring revenue source.

I have Camtasia Studio Screen Capturing Software for tutorial creation and I am very good at using it.

I think that with all the good and kind suggestion I have got from you fellow warriors here, I will be able to try something.

Thanks.

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AndrewCavanagh

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

I already have an unlimited hosting account paid for 5years, I have about 32 domain names, I also have an Aweber account for auto-responders.

I can design websites using scripts like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Adobe Dreamweaver and HTML. I have the full Adobe CS6 Master Suite. Can work with graphic software like; Photoshop, CorelDraw cs5. I have about 200 turn key products I bought sometimes back. These turnkey products are eBooks which come with a build website. I have 24/7 internet, a 17incs laptop with an additional 24incs external display, and now I have all the time.

If I want to do this considering all the other comments, what is the best route to take?

If you talk to the owners of regular brick and mortar businesses
your skills are very valuable to them.

You need to focus on developing strategies for each business that
can bring them in more sales and profits (if you have any internet
marketing skills you'll quickly see plenty of those).

Most brick and mortar businesses can afford to pay you $500 to
$5,000+ per project and you can charge half upfront before you
get started.

So you could be talking to business owners today and collecting
money today (it's been done many times by many people including
a pile of people here on the Warrior Forum).

If you're willing to talk to business owners and put in the effort
in my opinion this is your best chance of going from zero to a full
time income very quickly (it doesn't take too many clients in the
$1,500 to $2,500 range to replace a job income).

Kindest regards,
Andrew Cavanagh

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sbucciarel

Banned 11 years ago

It takes time to build an online business and you can go broke waiting for the return on your investment in time and money. You need either a huge savings account as backup or another J.O.B. until you are profitable in whatever online business you decide on.

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nitesh

11 years ago

Start up internet marketing according to your skills. If you are good in article writing then start taking article writing projects, if you are good in SEO then start SEO projects, and if Email Marketing is something that interests you most then start with that approach. In the beginning, focus on just one thing and if you need to know some good sites then I can suggest fiverr and PPH.

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Christian H

11 years ago

I added you on skype - Will look forward to talking with you.

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carnal

11 years ago

Working from home and being your own boss is what we all dream off.
Can you make a full time income from internet marketing? of course you can.
You going to need a lot of dedication, motivation do not be afraid of setbacks because you will get them and you going to need some money.

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GodMode52

11 years ago

Sadly it's not that easy.. You'll need either

- a decent sum to invest
- a decent skillset + time
- luck

As many others have pointed out make sure to invest your time/resources in something that will ''pay your bills'' at the very start otherwise you could end with nothing done in few months which isn't a good future prospective

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Randall Magwood

11 years ago

You can see fast results if you have the money to advertise in a ton of places online. Aside from that, you will want to do some free marketing... and ALOT of it. Increase your knowledge on internet marketing, and make sure you build up an email list for some predictability in terms of when you can expect to earn sales.

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cshilling22 11 years ago

In my opinion the fastest way would be to immediately market your services to offline businesses. Are you receiving unemployment? If so you could use that as the supplemental income while you set up the business. You can start with minimal to no investment and with the time you have due to the lack of regular job you have plenty of time to invest into setting the business up and getting local clients. There is a wealth of information on how to do this successfully on this forum.
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Joe Thio

11 years ago

I really suggest getting a "traditional" job while also doing internet marketing. When you're just starting out, IM is really difficult and not fool proof. Once you have enough experience you can probably decide whether your IM business can hold it's own. You will probably know when this is.

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Stuart Walker

11 years ago

Look for a new job whilst doing IM in spare time.

A lot of people decide to quit their job or take up IM full time instead of looking for a new one then are unable to make the online stuff work and end up broke and in a tricky situation.

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bss2t

11 years ago

The most difficult thing with any new venture is having the ability to last. If you have enough money to make mistakes, learn, try again, and perfect a business model...you will succeed. Very few businesses, even very large ones, get their strategy perfect the first time (case in point, Honda in the late 80s).

My advice is to replace your income by doing anything you can...and work IM on the side until it covers your monthly expenditures.

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donza 11 years ago

You should take a look at the offline forum more specifically at the threads relating to selling advertising to offline businesses such as postcards, discount cards etc

Bob Ross, Martin Buckley,The Midasman all have a lot of threads with good solid actionable business ideas that need very little investment other than having the balls to talk to local business owners.

A common refrain amongst IMers is this, "I spent years trying to make money with online IM then I tried offline and FINALLY started making some real money.

The reason it's "easier" is because the market place is less crowded. Why? Most people lack the kahunas to actually go and talk to local business owners. A

If you have the kahunas and the drive you will succeed with offline marketing. The same cannot be said for online marketing.

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clever7

11 years ago

It would be better if you could find a part time job besides working online and make a smart combination.

You have interesting skills and you surely will make money online. However, you are one person. Even if you will be successful, trying to make a living only based on your services (while you still are a beginner) is quite hard because a service depends on your work all the time. How much can you make in the beginning? How much do you need per month?

It will be better if you won't depend on your online work for everything.

You should also create your own websites and promote good affiliate products that will bring you money without needing your time and work.

Selling is very nice, but it depends on getting traffic and beating the competition. Nothing is simple, but you should work in this direction.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by clever7

It would be better if you could find a part time job besides working online and make a smart combination.

You have interesting skills and you surely will make money online. However, you are one person. Even if you will be successful, trying to make a living only based on your services (while you still are a beginner) is quite hard because a service depends on your work all the time. How much can you make in the beginning? How much do you need per month?

It will be better if you won't depend on your online work for everything.

You should also create your own websites and promote good affiliate products that will bring you money without needing your time and work.

Selling is very nice, but it depends on getting traffic and beating the competition. Nothing is simple, but you should work in this direction.

Thanks Clever for your suggestions and ideas, will consider them.

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Ken Soszka

11 years ago

Whether you sell your services or run an Internet Marketing business there is one thing that you absolutely should do, and that is contact an accountant or a local free business advice source and get yourself set up with an LLC. Also find out what you have to do regarding taxes. You will save a fortune in taxes by running a business as opposed to your income being "personal" income. Also, the LLC can protect against an individual or the IRS from going after your personal assets if you get into a legal situation.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Soszka

Whether you sell your services or run an Internet Marketing business there is one thing that you absolutely should do, and that is contact an accountant or a local free business advice source and get yourself set up with an LLC. Also find out what you have to do regarding taxes. You will save a fortune in taxes by running a business as opposed to your income being "personal" income. Also, the LLC can protect against an individual or the IRS from going after your personal assets if you get into a legal situation.

Thanks Ken, I've being thinking of the legal aspect too. Definitely I will register a business if I decide to offer services.

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TravisO

11 years ago

As said by one of the member poster here that it's not an easy ride and it's true. You need a money, possibly a lot of money. Capital is your best asset for this. Try to also trust your skill too, as well as luck. It's not the same as any traditional jobs out there in your locale.

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11 years ago

if you can do web design and using script like WordPress, Joomla, Drupal, Adobe Dreamweaver and HTML the best path is creating web template at themeforest.net or template monster, hell it's really a lot of work at the beginning but once you create many products, it's can be really passive income , athough you still need to fix some bug later.

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edhuu

11 years ago

yeah you can replace your day job with IM.. But it will takes time until you see your success in IM.. So in the mean time, why don't you offer services for warriors or others.

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jeffry ng darwis

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

Hello Fellow Warriors,

I have being interested in Internet Marketing for a while now, but not able to give much attention to it due to my job.

But now the BIG OOOH NOOOO...! Have lost the job.

Please can any one advice on taking up Internet Marketing and possibly not looking for traditional jobs any more.

Any advice, suggestion, idea or recommendation will be appreciated.

Thanks.

It's good and all the best for you . But never put all eggs in one basket .

You can earn big bucks in Internet Marketing but starting off is the hard part .

Some pointer to you , always plans first before jumping into anything specific .
Plan your niche , your target , your time to spend daily and etc .

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twinkenterprises

11 years ago

It takes time to make money online. You might run out of savings before you ever make anything. It also starts out where you make a little money. It takes a long time to make enough to replace a full time job.

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Romeo90

11 years ago

Hey Samuel, I am sorry to hear you lost your job.

My only advice right now: Do whatever you need to do to pay your rent, put food on the table for yourself or your family, and pay the bills. That has to be your No.1 priority, IM or no IM.

Good luck Samuel.

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11 years ago

Start by offering online services to offline businesses.

Then quickly start to make your own products and use affiliates to market them on ClickBank.

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DanteRomero

11 years ago

If you've got enough in the bank for 6 months of dough to live on (including investments), I'd say go for it. If you're down to a few dimes, I don't recommend it. It isn't likely to pay off that quickly.

If you have prior business experience, it can happen much faster. Same with prior marketing experience. However, I'd still stick to 6 months as a number. If you can enter it from a platform of stability, you'll be in a clear-head state where you can make the kind of long-term decisions you need to.

Too many guys get into it from a stand-point of desparation, and because they are always scrambling, they waste a great deal of their time... the result of unclear thinking (brought on by circumstances which pressure them to not remain calm enough to think )

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dash0205

11 years ago

Network marketing is extremely difficult! You cannot replace it with a regular job not unless you start figuring it out. Learn and build your business is taking so much time.

Nevertheless, network marketing is financially promising. But you have to put in a lot of hours and a lot of work.. literally speaking. And you will be looking at picking the right marketing strategy(gies) in the beginning.

So I would recommend, find a job first and then work it out in parallel with network marketing and start building your business. Eventually, you will fire your boss! and that's the best feeling you will ever have!

Best of luck.

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azulita

11 years ago

Of course that you can return. You can always return but I recommend you to find also a regular job because with Affiliate Marketing you need to invest also and of course you need money to support yourself because it takes time.

Good luck =)

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traffic2mysite

11 years ago

I specialize in this field Samuel. Have you tired a forum on your website?

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seminars82

11 years ago

Yes it can.There are so many ways using online marketing. You can start in ecommerce by selling on online retail platform selling physical goods. However, you need to know how to import the items from factory to get at wholesale price as well as international trade. Then after getting the products, you may consider selling on Amazon, Ebay etc.

Another way if you are an expert in something, you can create your own products and sell online through platform like JVZOO, Clickbank, Clicksure and many other digital stores marketing platform.

What I am saying here may a bit general but once you find the best platform for yourself, then go deep into that area and then start taking action.

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Nightengale

11 years ago

Hi Samuel,

I'm so sorry you've lost your job. I've been there and know what it's like.

TooAlive has made the most sense.

Azulita has also made an excellent point: you DON'T want to try to get clients from a point of desperation. They can smell that a mile off and will run the other way.

It's not what you want to hear, but even a minimum-wage job to pay your basic living expenses will go a long way towards actually helping you get clients. Your basic bills will be paid and you won't reek of desperation. It puts you in a much better frame of mind for prospecting.

As others have mentioned, your fastest path to cash right now is clients -- offline clients, that is. Off your web design services.

And forget about charging $50. Personally, I'd be highly suspicious of paying only $50 for web design. (I paid $2500 for mine.) $500 is bare minimum in my estimation, but it's probably higher in New York. In your market, anyone hearing a $50 quote would quite rightly blow you off completely, if not laugh.

If you want to be taken seriously, price your work accordingly.

I get that your portal is a pet project. We all have pet projects. But in your case, you don't have time for pet projects. Pour all of your time, energy and focus into getting web design clients.

As others have said, I'm sure it's highly competitive, but I'm also sure there's a niche for you somewhere. You just need to find it.

IM isn't hard per se (contrary to what some others have said here), but there IS a steep learning curve. And it's easy to lose your shirt while trying to figure it out. How soon you start making money will depend on your skills, knowledge, existing assets (money and other resources) and how much actual action you take.

Focus on getting offline clients for services FIRST. THEN play with pet projects, scaling up, automating your income, etc.

Good luck!

Michelle

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Hi Samuel,

I'm so sorry you've lost your job. I've been there and know what it's like.

TooAlive has made the most sense.

Azulita has also made an excellent point: you DON'T want to try to get clients from a point of desperation. They can smell that a mile off and will run the other way.

It's not what you want to hear, but even a minimum-wage job to pay your basic living expenses will go a long way towards actually helping you get clients. Your basic bills will be paid and you won't reek of desperation. It puts you in a much better frame of mind for prospecting.

As others have mentioned, your fastest path to cash right now is clients -- offline clients, that is. Off your web design services.

And forget about charging $50. Personally, I'd be highly suspicious of paying only $50 for web design. (I paid $2500 for mine.) $500 is bare minimum in my estimation, but it's probably higher in New York. In your market, anyone hearing a $50 quote would quite rightly blow you off completely, if not laugh.

If you want to be taken seriously, price your work accordingly.

I get that your portal is a pet project. We all have pet projects. But in your case, you don't have time for pet projects. Pour all of your time, energy and focus into getting web design clients.

As others have said, I'm sure it's highly competitive, but I'm also sure there's a niche for you somewhere. You just need to find it.

IM isn't hard per se (contrary to what some others have said here), but there IS a steep learning curve. And it's easy to lose your shirt while trying to figure it out. How soon you start making money will depend on your skills, knowledge, existing assets (money and other resources) and how much actual action you take.

Focus on getting offline clients for services FIRST. THEN play with pet projects, scaling up, automating your income, etc.

Good luck!

Michelle

Thanks Michelle,

I am doing everything I can to make it through in this situation and hopefully find new good roads going forward.

You guys have made valuable suggestions, many of which am using as a guide in my decision making and I appreciate those suggestions and ideas so much.

I have never found this forum so valuable as I do now. Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.

I appreciate you all!

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curly sue

11 years ago

Hi Samuel,
Two years ago I dropped out of college/university because I was so broke, what gave me the confidence to walk away was internet marketing. I had read about it and I was convinced it was my way out.

Two years later, am not there yet but by the need of this year I believe it would have been worth it.

My advise get a coach, use meetup.com and meet fellow warriors and internet marketers, their stories of success will pull you up and make it real.

''Sometimes when a door closes... opportunity awaits''

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by curly sue

Hi Samuel,
Two years ago I dropped out of college/university because I was so broke, what gave me the confidence to walk away was internet marketing. I had read about it and I was convinced it was my way out.

Two years later, am not there yet but by the need of this year I believe it would have been worth it.

My advise get a coach, use meetup.com and meet fellow warriors and internet marketers, their stories of success will pull you up and make it real.

''Sometimes when a door closes... opportunity awaits''

Sue thanks,

I had the same thought of meetup.com and created an account yesterday. Saw some interesting groups and I intend to attend any upcoming meet up.

Thanks my friend, really appreciate these ideas and stories.

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Zaiyan

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Samuel McEdwards

Hello Fellow Warriors,

I have being interested in Internet Marketing for a while now, but not able to give much attention to it due to my job.

But now the BIG OOOH NOOOO...! Have lost the job.

Please can any one advice on taking up Internet Marketing and possibly not looking for traditional jobs any more.

Any advice, suggestion, idea or recommendation will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Ofcourse you can take up internet marketing as your career,
But before that :
1. Do you know how to go about it ?
2. What resources do you require ?
3. Do you have the full knowledge of the field ?
4. Does it require some kind of investment ?
Answer these questions to yourself and you'll get your answer.
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jbearnolimits

11 years ago

Looks like you have a lot of advice here. I would just like to let you know it took me years to be able to do this full time. So don't be discouraged. I think you already know what you need to do with your skills in web design. The only problem is your fee structure. People are always out to get something for nothing. DON'T settle for less than you are worth.

You have to support yourself and that means being paid well.

Also it is hard to get that first gig. If you have a lot of websites already you may want to consider using one to showcase your portfolio of designs. I think you are onto something with craigslist but don't stop there...get on the phone (a simple pre-paid phone) and cold call local small shops. They often have no website and know they need one.

The first website design job I got on my own was for an auto repair shop. I was broke down and thought while I was there I would ask. They have been my faithful clients for years now. So get out and talk to people. Advertise however you can. But DON'T rip yourself off.

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jbearnolimits

Looks like you have a lot of advice here. I would just like to let you know it took me years to be able to do this full time. So don't be discouraged. I think you already know what you need to do with your skills in web design. The only problem is your fee structure. People are always out to get something for nothing. DON'T settle for less than you are worth.

You have to support yourself and that means being paid well.

Also it is hard to get that first gig. If you have a lot of websites already you may want to consider using one to showcase your portfolio of designs. I think you are onto something with craigslist but don't stop there...get on the phone (a simple pre-paid phone) and cold call local small shops. They often have no website and know they need one.

The first website design job I got on my own was for an auto repair shop. I was broke down and thought while I was there I would ask. They have been my faithful clients for years now. So get out and talk to people. Advertise however you can. But DON'T rip yourself off.

Thanks jbearnolimits, I had the same thought that before I start I need sites that I can use to showcase my portfolio of designs. So am at the moment I am building few sites including one for my Lawyer. Am sure by the end of this week I will be ready to go out there and fine my first paid customer.

Thanks for your suggestion and sharing your experience.

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curationsoft

11 years ago

yes you can! it's one of the most convenient job that you can have. but be prepare to some ups and downs in earning money, luck has also something to do with it.

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Mary Spencer

11 years ago

Hi Samuel,

I will agree pretty much with almost everything that has been written above... Step one: You have to find a new job, in order to support your IM. Secondly, you have to get a Coach, this is extremely important, as he is going to take you by the hand and walk you through the whole process, and will make it much easier to overcome problems and difficulties.And finally, try not to go for dirty cheap options, in the long term you'll see that you have given more money, with very poor results!
I just hope I have helped!
Mary :-)

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cwinning

11 years ago

Hi, agree with the advice you have been given. Concentrate on getting a job and look at internet marketing as a second income. In the short term at least.

Secure your future, reduce your worries (money) which will give you the freedom to pursue IM, if that's where your passion lies.

I'm all for taking the occasional calculated risk but looking at Internet Marketing is a means to a full time income from scratch is a risk too far. Not impossible but too risky, in my opinion.

I did something similar. Although I had a job, my problem was staying motivated to do anything after a days work, looking after family.... I made some changes which helped me to maximize my time. All about balance.

Good luck to you man, hope it all works out.

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11 years ago

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MrPete2000

11 years ago

Samuel, sorry to hear you lost your job, but don't let it get you down!

My advice, look for another regular job.

The reason is simple, if you are not already making enough Online to ditch the day job on your own... then you're not ready for full time IM yet.

IM is way to volatile and not a good replacement for the reliable income of a day job, unless you're already making a lot and are very seasoned.

I myself have gone back to the 9-5 rat race after 5+ years of full time IM, overall successful, but so risky and unpredictable that it just wasn't worth it in the end. I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss it, but there is something nice about knowing when your next paycheck is arriving.

Don't give up on IM, it can make you *way* more money than the day job, but don't quit until you *know* you're ready.

Cheers, best of luck!
Pete.

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James Clark 11 years ago

Based on my experience, it takes some time to be profitable in IM so you have to be patience. I would recommend that you look for another job.You are going to need some income to go into this business.
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Brandon Modrov

11 years ago

Best of luck to you in your difficult situation.

Some great advice has already been given. You're going to have to evaluate all of the information given and develop a plan.

For me I would say you need to evaluate your skills, knowledge and ability. You need to ask yourself what can you do well, what type of skills do you possess, what is your budget and what do you think would be useful for others out there.

You have to take stock in all of the things you can do. I don't think now would be the time to pursue new adventures. I would try to leverage anything that you can already do or already know when and try and make a profit off of that.

You then will have to take your strengths and figure out a system that will be most effective to turn a profit.

If you want more help perhaps you can provide everyone with a little more insight into what your thinking so we can try and help.

Best of luck again!

Brandon

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bigcat

11 years ago

Samuel -- If you decide to do Internet Marketing and especially if you are going to do it full-time -- I have one word for you:

FOCUS

You may need to do a little experimenting at first, but once you find something you are confident you can make a good profit with then focus on that and make it work.

Jumping from on thing to another is the biggest detriment to success.

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techbul

11 years ago

You can definitely start an Internet Marketing business and earn big money with it, especially if you are going to do it full time. Start contacting offline businesses and offer to setup a website for them. This is most likely the easiest and fastest way to making some serious income, since offline businesses don't really understand how easy setting up a website is. Prices can go up to 4-digits.

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11 years ago

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erange

11 years ago

I've heard wild claims of instant riches...but it's like the book "Good To Great" by Jim Collins - the flywheel effect. You need to be consistent with the things you do...good things...and results will eventually follow. It may take a month...it may take 6 months. But if you're dedicated and committed...you can DEFINITELY replace a J.O.B.

(...but seriously, consider part-time work or something until momentum starts with your online business.)

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Samuel McEdwards

11 years ago

Thanks to every Warrior who has contributed to this thread. So many comments that trigged a whole lots of ideas and so many ideas that introduced new paths I could possibly take.

Once again thank you all and please if you can watch out for my progress and break through story. All of you will be part of that story...

BIG THANKS!!!!!

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