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Dedicated site for WSOs

by cyr3x
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Hi Everyone,

I was wondering if there is a dedicated site for WSOs where authors can publish their WSOs and general users can purchase WSOs, review and rate them?

I am a programmer by profession and have been coding for more than 10 years. I have been browsing this forum for quite some time but created an account only today.

If there is no such site, do you think such a site could be valuable, if I created one?

Thanks
#dedicated #site #wsos
  • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
    I was wondering if there is a dedicated site for WSOs where authors can publish their WSOs and general users can purchase WSOs, review and rate them?
    Yes. It's called the Warrior forum.

    WSO stands for Warrior Special Offer. If it was posted somewhere else it would not be a WSO.

    There are a lot of sites that post WSOs but they just link to WF.
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    • Profile picture of the author cyr3x
      Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

      Yes. It's called the Warrior forum.

      WSO stands for Warrior Special Offer. If it was posted somewhere else it would not be a WSO.

      There are a lot of sites that post WSOs but they just link to WF.
      Hi RogueOne,

      Thanks for replying. I know what WSO stands for and that they are sold only here. What I'm asking is a completely separate platform with its own payment system and account management where authors can sell their WSO's as a normal product for general public.

      Would something like that be valuable to the authors as well as online buyers?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        You mean something like JvZoo.com?

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        Originally Posted by cyr3x View Post

        Hi RogueOne,

        Thanks for replying. I know what WSO stands for and that they are sold only here. What I'm asking is a completely separate platform with its own payment system and account management where authors can sell their WSO's as a normal product for general public.

        Would something like that be valuable to the authors as well as online buyers?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
        Originally Posted by cyr3x View Post

        Hi RogueOne,

        Thanks for replying. I know what WSO stands for and that they are sold only here. What I'm asking is a completely separate platform with its own payment system and account management where authors can sell their WSO's as a normal product for general public.

        Would something like that be valuable to the authors as well as online buyers?
        You can't really sell a WSO as a normal product, because when you sell it to
        the public it's not longer a Warrior special offer. So it just becomes a regular
        product that can be sold using, jvzoo, clickbank, etc....

        But what I think you are talking about is something like Warrior Plus
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  • Profile picture of the author RogueOne
    There are many such sites where people can sell their digital products and recruit affiliates to sell for them.

    Am I missing something?
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
    Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post

    If it was posted somewhere else it would not be a WSO.
    Originally Posted by Ebbi View Post

    You can't really sell a WSO as a normal product, because when you sell it to the public it's not longer a Warrior special offer.
    This is incorrect. As stated in the rules for the WSO section of this forum...
    3. A Warrior Special Offer Means The Price You Give Must Be Better Than The Price The Public At Large Can Get. (This is not a "buy my product" forum, it is a "Special Offer" forum)
    A WSO can be offered and sold ANYWHERE, as long as the price it is sold for ON THIS FORUM is for less than everywhere else you sell.

    Just wanted to clear up an extremely common misconception about WSO's.
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    • Profile picture of the author brutecky
      Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

      This is incorrect. As stated in the rules for the WSO section of this forum...

      A WSO can be offered and sold ANYWHERE, as long as the price it is sold for ON THIS FORUM is for less than everywhere else you sell.

      Just wanted to clear up an extremely common misconception about WSO's.
      Thats funny you quoted rule number 3 for WSO's. The most ignored rule ever! Now this is just an estimate, but Im willing to bet that around 80% of all WSO's are not 'special offers' at all. They are products created just for the WSO section. Rule #3 is a joke and should be removed (if its not going to be enforced)
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      • Profile picture of the author Teravel
        Originally Posted by brutecky View Post

        Thats funny you quoted rule number 3 for WSO's. The most ignored rule ever! Now this is just an estimate, but Im willing to bet that around 80% of all WSO's are not 'special offers' at all. They are products created just for the WSO section. Rule #3 is a joke and should be removed (if its not going to be enforced)
        The rule, as stated, is "3. A Warrior Special Offer Means The Price You Give Must Be Better Than The Price The Public At Large Can Get."

        If the a product is being sold ONLY in the Warrior Special Offer section of the WarriorForum, the public at large cannot purchase it at a better price. Thus, they are following the rule.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ebbi
          Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

          The rule, as stated, is "3. A Warrior Special Offer Means The Price You Give Must Be Better Than The Price The Public At Large Can Get."

          If the a product is being sold ONLY in the Warrior Special Offer section of the WarriorForum, the public at large cannot purchase it at a better price. Thus, they are following the rule.
          What are you not understanding... a wso can only be sold
          on the warrior forum it's in the title!!! If you offer the product
          somewhere else it's not a WARRIOR special offer longer and
          should not be promoted as one!

          You can sell the same offer to the public for a higher price but
          if you sell it for the same price it's not a wso anymore.
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          • Profile picture of the author Teravel
            Originally Posted by Ebbi View Post

            What are you not understanding... a wso can only be sold
            on the warrior forum it's in the title!!! If you offer the product
            somewhere else it's not a WARRIOR special offer longer and
            should not be promoted as one!

            You can sell the same offer to the public for a higher price but
            if you sell it for the same price it's not a wso anymore.
            What am I not understanding? You just commented against my post, with basically the same information I just provided.

            READ BEFORE QUOTING
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        • Profile picture of the author brutecky
          Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

          The rule, as stated, is "3. A Warrior Special Offer Means The Price You Give Must Be Better Than The Price The Public At Large Can Get."

          If the a product is being sold ONLY in the Warrior Special Offer section of the WarriorForum, the public at large cannot purchase it at a better price. Thus, they are following the rule.
          Come on do you really believe this? Its nonesens. A WSO means You Give Must Be Better Than The Price The Public At Large Can Get, which means if its not sold anywhere else, the only place the 'public' can get this product is ON the Warrior forum, which means that the WSO is NOT a better price than the public at large can get, its the ONLY price the public can get. Hence its not a special offer at all. It a BS special.

          As for 'the public at large can not purchase it if its sold only on the WF' .. thats nonesense as well. Anyone can stumple on the WF (which is easy to do since its such a high traffic, high ranked site) and buy a WSO. No need to be a WF member or anything. If 'everyone who comes to the site' is not 'the public' then IDK what is!

          There are real people doing real WSO's. For example, I give $50 off of one of my software's as a WSO, every month dozens of people buy it directly from my site, I dont have to give it as a WSO, but I do to be cool to the Warrior forum (and its still profitable at that price point so its ok) This is a WSO. I give a special price off the 'normal' price. There are several others that do this, but lots and lots of products are not 'specials' at all.

          A product only sold on the WF is not giving a special price off the normal price. Because the WSO is the normal price. As I said its a total BS special. This rule is not enforced in any way, and the reason is not hard to figure out, if WSO's actually had to be special prices on products sold else where then there would be scores less WSO's. So there is a monetary incentive for this rule to be ignored.
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          • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
            This rule is not enforced in any way, and the reason is not hard to figure out, if WSO's actually had to be special prices on products sold else where then there would be scores less WSO's. So there is a monetary incentive for this rule to be ignored.
            Ummmm... Mixing a couple of issues there.

            If you sell a product in the WSO section and it's available to the general public outside this forum at the same price, the offer usually gets moved to the classifieds. If it's someone who's sold here before and knows better, we'll often just close the thing.

            Stopping people from selling something here only is a pointless exercise. Anyone could put up a page somewhere else with a higher price and claim that complies with the rules, even if they've never sent a single visitor to that page. And it would be impossible to argue the point logically, or based on any real knowledge of their outside promotions.

            Yes, any random person can buy through the WSO section. That has always been true. The growth of affiliate systems like WarriorPlus and JV Zoo has made it even less exclusive. There is simply no reasonable way to change that at this point.

            I'm not entirely sure it would be a good thing, even if it were practical.


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    We could argue semantics all night. Thousands of products are sold in the WSO section, and the mods don't have the time, energy, or desire to check EVERY PRODUCT.

    What the admins want is to make sure the forum gets the best deals. If the product isn't being sold anywhere else on the web, the best deal is where??? The WarriorForum.

    Since you have such deep emotions against how the rules are handled, why don't you start up your own Marketing Forum, and make your own rules. Only thing it changes here is a little less complaining, which many of us would prefer.
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Originally Posted by Teravel View Post

    Since you have such deep emotions against how the rules are handled, why don't you start up your own Marketing Forum, and make your own rules. Only thing it changes here is a little less complaining, which many of us would prefer.
    Who exactly is complaining? No one. We are talking, sorry if you dont like that. But it tends to happen on a forum Personally I dont have any 'deep emotions' about much of anything on here. I was just having a discussion about a rule that seems to not be enforced, I really could care less if a WSO is only here, here and somewhere else, or all over. I was just giving my interpretation of what this rule meant. In the future I would be quite pleased if you refrained from making assumptions about my 'emotions'. Thanks!

    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

    Stopping people from selling something here only is a pointless exercise. Anyone could put up a page somewhere else with a higher price and claim that complies with the rules, even if they've never sent a single visitor to that page. And it would be impossible to argue the point logically, or based on any real knowledge of their outside promotions.
    Yea this is true, so why not just remove that rule from the WSO's rules or even amend it. It might make doing a WSO seem less intimidating. I mean new people might be thinking, by reading this, that they have to have an established product to do a WSO, so they might be avoiding doing it because there product isnt established. Just a thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      Yea this is true, so why not just remove that rule from the WSO's rules or even amend it.
      Leaving it as written is consistent with established practice and intent.

      Since the creation of a separate section for WSOs, we have never had a policy requiring that products be sold elsewhere to qualify. There was such a policy early on, but it's been gone for at least the past 11 years.

      I don't see any real advantage to requiring that a product be sold elsewhere. I do see some advantages for certain members in not having that policy in place. We've had our share of folks bootstrap their way into serious businesses by leveraging the attention they can get here. Introduce a solid product as a WSO, show a good conversion rate and EPC, and get testimonials, affiliate connections, and start-up cash, all in one swell foop.

      Momentum built, all with a lot less hassle than they might have endured without the ready-made market.

      The main purpose of the pricing rule was to provide an incentive for sellers to make a special deal for the members. It wasn't to keep out the "made for WSO" one-off products, as much as I'd personally like to see those go away.


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      • Profile picture of the author brutecky
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Momentum built, all with a lot less hassle than they might have endured without the ready-made market.
        Im actually glad that this came up as I have a few softwares that while of good quality are not indepth enough to warrant building a dedicated site for. Id love to do a low cost WSO on them just to get people to know my name, and the quality of my products, but I never did because I thought it would be breaking the rules. Now I know I wouldnt be. Thanks for jumping in here and clearing it up. Merry Christmas and stay warm (Im currently in central PA and its freezing here so I know you have to be cold up there in Erie)

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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Brett,
          Im actually glad that this came up as I have a few softwares that while of good quality are not indepth enough to warrant building a dedicated site for. Id love to do a low cost WSO on them just to get people to know my name, and the quality of my products, but I never did because I thought it would be breaking the rules.
          You're one of the people we want to encourage and provide a channel for, then.

          We always try to look at the forum from that perspective: How can we provide people more ways to build something?
          stay warm (Im currently in central PA and its freezing here so I know you have to be cold up there in Erie)
          I've spent most of my life on the southern shores of Lake Erie. Anything short of a lake effect storm and sub-zero temperatures is just winter.

          Merry Christmas to you, sir!


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