Building A List Around Cannabis Or Video Games?

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Hello guys!

I don't know, I'm just going through a spiral right now. Here is the thing, When I ask for business Ideas, People always (rightfully) ask "What do you like to do?", and the thing is, The things that I like to do, I don't think I could profit off of. In my spare time, I like to play video games and study Cannabis. I freakin' love Cannabis; Even though I've never consumed it (yet) I love the science behind it, It's benefits, etc. I could probably tell you what type of Cannabis it is just by looking at the leaves, the length of the leaves so on and so forth.

I would love to build my list around Cannabis (since it is a natural herb) but I just don't see how I could profit off of it seeing that it's still illegal in most states (mainly in the south where I live). I don't think there are affiliate products i could sell about Cannabis.

I mean, I'm sure I could profit off of video games. I'm also pretty good a video editing with Sony Vegas, but if there is anyway I could build a list around around Cannabis That would be awesome

Any ideas? Thank you in advance!
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  • Interesting thought LOL. I hear is just been made legal to buy cannabis in Colorado. I'm not sure it's a great idea to be honest.

    Although, on second thoughts, I think it is because it drives the black market away.

    However, you are asking for trouble focusing on building a list of dope smokers. I hope you're not thinking of selling Internet marketing products to dope smokers – it's hard enough for straight Internet marketers to make money, let alone stoned Internet marketers.

    To be honest, I think it might be wise to avoid the marijuana niche. But that's just my idea. If you go for it anyway I wish you all the best!

    Malc
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    • you can still buy pipes, papers, bongs, 420 clothes etc online. Market those products as an affiliate. make a blog about whats going on in the industry and network with activists all over the web. most people into 420 are also into ecigs, vapor and video games.
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    • Thank you for the advice . I think i'm going to try it and see what happens. I'll keep everyone updated on my Cannabis blogging journey. If it works out, I might could show everyone what I did and someone else might be able to profit from it.
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  • Don't build a list in the Cannabis or Medical Marijuana niche right now.

    Here's Why:

    1. The niche (as a whole) is completely unproven and untested

    2. Is there any money to be made? Most pot heads don't have much of a disposable income (besides what they spend to get high) and/or are living off the state. Most probably also aren't spending a lot of time online 'buying' Cannabis related info products and physical products.

    3. Is this something mainstream and that you could really be 'proud' of promoting?

    4. You may think of Cannabis as something cool and unique and something that makes exceedingly killer clothes and rope, but for the majority of people, when they think of Cannabis as a business, they automatically think of dope dealers selling dime bags on the street corner. Is that what you want for your business?

    5. It's illegal. No matter what the states say, it's still against Federal Law - Who knows how, when or why the feds could come in and shut you down? What if they decided to do worse to you than shut you down, simply because you were promoting something that is illegal?

    6. No matter how much much time and effort you spend trying to build a relationship with them, 99% won't even remember who you are the next time they see your email in their inbox :rolleyes:

    Alex
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    • I'm not sure how that could have been any more stereotypical :rolleyes:
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    • 99.9% - dope smokers, right? LOL
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    • 1. That's true, Maybe it could be something cool to test

      2. I see people on Youtube making profit off of it being activist. Magazines like High Times Magazine are really making a profit off of it. That is what gave me the idea

      3. Oh yes, I could be proud of promoting something that's been proven to help cancer, seizures etc, Is safer then alcohol, and helps various other sickness and I could be proud of letting people know that it does not cause suicide, homicidal thoughts and Jungle Fever like it was portrayed in the 40s and if there is money to be made, I'm all for it.

      4. Me and 50% of the country and that's true. That is why that stereotype needs to be broken which is another reason why I would like to be a part of the many blogs and youtubers so I could help enlighten people on a plant that's been around for thousands of years

      5. If the Feds shut me down just for talking about Cannabis, That would be infringing on my Freedom Of Speech right?

      6 . Awwh C,mon lol.


      Thank you for the advice sir. It's something to think about, I take everything under consideration
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    • i would go for it
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    • I don't think you could have any less of a clue what you are talking about regarding this market. The guy telling you to shut your mouth was pushing limits,but the point he was making was completely on point. You really haven't got a clue what you're talking about, it's obvious you have a complete disconnect from the target demographic. It's like everything you know about marijuana has been regurgitated from the 6 o'clock news and bad college comedy flicks. There is a huge market for it, people spend tons of money on accessories, books, glass, and other related products. $600 vaporizers and $300-500 glass bongs fly off the shelves like hotcakes. Not every stoner lives off stale pizza and works part time at 7-11 to feed his pot habit. Each and every segment of your bulletpointed list is completely and utterly wrong. No questions, lol.
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    • Why, don't want competition?

      Wrong. There have been active marijuana communities on the net since the early-mid 90's. Further, there is a cat pushing a $37 info product, and it is a full on professional IM sales page, etc. He is probably making bank right now.

      Internet is a big place - just because you don't hang out in every corner doesn't mean there isn't money there.

      Umm ... you'd be surprised at the disposable income and professions of some stoners - I know a lot of them. I know PhDs, MSs, lawyers, business owners and yes, a medical doctor, etc., that smoke weed. Again, you are talking about stereotypes and your incorrect perceptions, not facts ...

      Quite frankly, I don't know how some IMers in the Health/MMO niches sleep at night, let alone 'be proud'. Thanks dad, but considering I actually owned a marijuana dispensary in Colorado for a period of time, pride isn't a problem, on this issue.

      I do, however, question those too scared to make money on something absolutely as ethical, if not more ethical than peddling alcohol (certainly more, because there ARE medicinal benefits to weed, unlike the nasty, physically addictive drug alcohol, that makes people kick their dogs and beat their children, murder, kill people in cars, etc. when they are hopped up on it, unlike weed), because they are afraid of what people might think.

      Grab a spine and a pair and go make some legal and ethical money.

      The hypocracy is laughable. Go ahead and work for a liquor company, and you have a good wholesome job, eh? Work with weed, a less harmful drug, by far, than alcohol, and one must hide their head in shame?

      Perhaps if one is a hypocrite or spineless - but I'm neither.

      So what? They are wrong, in large part. Who the hell cares? Thanks, dad. Again.

      Read the Constitution and realize that the Federal government is in violation of said Constituiton, as they use article 10 - interstate commerce to regulate drugs. Medical marijuana originates and stays in state and is not subject to interstate commerce laws.

      Further, you obviously aren't keeping up with the news and what the Obama Admin and Eric Holder have said about the issue - Follow your states laws and we leave you alone. Those are for the people growing and selling marijuana, not an info product, accessories, etc.

      No, I do not suggest getting involved in selling seeds or advertising for seed banks as they are breaking the law as those seed banks, largely, are in places like the UK, Spain, Amsterdam, etc., where it is legal to sell cannabis seeds. DEA gets pissed when seeds come onto the US, so tread lightly with seeds.

      Making money online in the weed niche is not the scary proposition you are painting it to be.

      For what? Ya know, I'm going to trust the lawyers at places like Barnes & Nobles, over you, as you don't seem to really know what the hell you are talking about here. Walk into any one of their stores in Colorado, and you can choose from half a dozen books about how to grow weed.

      You really don't know what you are talking about here. There is nothing illegal about selling an info product on how to grow weed. It is protected by the first amendment and multibillion dollar organizations, like Amazon, know this and sell those info products. Go ahead, look on Amazon for books on how to grow weed and then come back here with your Chicken Little routine again.

      Well, Alex, I am a retired ski bum. I also need 3 surgeries on my spine and have some pretty serious nerve damage in my lower legs, losing feeling and some muscle use. I am in 24 hour/day pain and could eat handfuls, legally, of opiate based (heroin) narcotics that are physically addictive.

      But I don't. because I do not want to become a junkie. So I smoke weed, instead. And quite frankly, your insults about people like me, being idiots, lazy, etc., stems from your ignorance about the subject and the stereotypes you were force fed and believed.

      There is money to be made in this niche. And the niche will continue to grow.

      Someone like me, with 20 years experience cultivating cannabis, well, I'm still deciding whether or not to throw my 150,000+ words onto an authority site and be patient, or to sell those words for at least $5,000 to a real IMer that understands the potential profits in this niche.

      How 'bout the rest of ya that really don't know the first thing about the subjects, weed in general or the very active weed communities on the net, do a little research first, before you shoot from the hip insulting me, and the many other users of cannabis, both medical and recreational, that visit this site, with some hypocritical (ya'll won't touch the much harder drug, alcohol, in your criticisms), incorrect socially conservstive nonsense that came straight out of the religious propaganda film, Reefer Madness, in the 1930's.

      I can give you the contact info of some people. A person, say, with cancer, using weed to help keep them alive, and you can shoot them of an email saying all of the insulting things about us 'dope heads' that you just did here. Up for that? Rnadomly insulting people dying of cancer because they smoke weed and, according to you, are too stupid to remember anything, lazy, poor and ought to be socially ostracized and 'banished from the herd' for using weed?
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  • Yup, Only a couple hundreds of millions are spent on Weed each year .. (legal and illegal) I bet there is no market there what so ever. :rolleyes:
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    • You obviously get marketing, LOL
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  • I'm so high right now I can't figure out if this thread is the best one I've read in ten years or so full of misinformation that it's really making my head spin.
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  • Don't listen to most of the nonsense in this thread. Spoken by the truly ignorant.

    This is a booming market and has been for a long time. Building a website and talking about Marijuana (NOT the same as Hemp) is not illegal. Major news sites have all kinds of Marijuana related content.

    There are actually many affiliate products but I would recommend one completely legal everywhere: hydroponics equipment and related growing supplies. Half the market for hydro supplies are retired people.

    More and more people will grow their own, just like vegetables or chickens in the back yard. AS more and more states legalize (it's coming faster than you think!) the grow industry will skyrocket.

    The absolute industry giant is: Discount Hydroponics in Riverside Ca. I think their affiliate program is through CJ or Linkshare.
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  • I just popped up a quick wp theme on PotGuy.com which I have for sale. The repeat clicks I'm getting is very high - no pun intended. (My stats program reports ip addresses, city stat and country and more) I think it has to do with the 2 videos on the bottom of the page. People are fascinated with Marijuana brownies.

    Think about finding a book or books related to cooking/baking with weed and see if there is an affiliate program for them.
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    • No doubt a cookbook would do great and could be easily outsourced and sold for a few bucks. Sounds like a project for Brad Gosse and Ron Duckett!

      As far as the rest of this thread... some good ideas and a lot of ignorance..."it's illegal! blah blah blah! my d!ck is little!"

      If you have an interest, follow that interest, learn more about it, become an authority on it and monetize it. There are seed banks that have affiliate programs... a ton of stuff.

      The world doesn't need another lame affiliate site on forex from someone that has no idea or interest in the subject. The world needs information from thinking individuals like you OP... friggin go for it
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  • Food products are so popular that the "legal states" are having to create legislation for testing and certifying food items.

    There are already businesses in the testing area popping up.

    There will be plenty more income potential ongoing for quite some time. A lot of it in areas that are only indirectly connected to the consumption of the plant by individuals.
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  • Apart from being illegal in most countries..why on earth would one want to market a product that is self-destructive to young people, especially if they're still at School.
    Each to their own, but utterly crazy! and Colorado will feel the effects of this insidious drug for years to come.

    Mikaedi
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    • With all due respect, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. In 20 years it will be legal (at least for medicinal use) in all 50 states.

      Ignorant people said the same thing about penicillin. What an insidious "drug" that is.
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    • I think you're talking about alcohol
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    • do you have any real proof it has ever killed anyone like alcohol or tobacco? how about prescription drugs they kill more people a year than all of the above three. Do some research before you just comment as another sheep in the heard . You have been brainwashed by the news and mainstream media for too many years. There are kids here with their cancer in remission because of it. For example search " hope for Landon".
  • @Brent, with all due respect I do know what I am talking about thank you as I work wit young people and have seen the effects of young developing minds whos's Schooling has been effected by this drug..it's all fine with us adults but with young Kids/teens it's n o good at all, and I am apposed to any forms of legalization..even in our own Country the green party platform is the legalization of cannabis.

    @bretsky..Alcohol is just as damaging if not more so..

    That's all I wish to state on this issue as I don't wish to get in a slanging match with anyone as it's against the OPs original thread.

    Mikaedi
  • I think you should go for Gaming niche, there is really a big potential in this
    First i would suggest have a quick guidebook of cheats or walkthroughs you can also outsource it, use it for list building or some kind of gaming magazine

    Secondly of you make videos of famous gaming series like COD, battlefield, NFS and upload them to youtube, dailymotion, you can get massive exposure doing this

    Especially if you find some glitch in newly released games or some tricky thing

    I remember that someone found an easter egg secret thing in COD black ops and it just went viral like fire

    So if you can make a lot of videos of these games also walkthroughs it can help you a lot
  • In the United States, there is a big push toward legalizing marijuana in many states, even the South. So you would be in a prime position to monetize your niche if you already had a blog/forum or email list about this subject. And, just to show you how popular this is, check out your niche's keywords online in Google search. Lots of people already happily writing about the subject. If this is something you are interested in, then go in that direction. And, don't let negativity or backlash stop you. Now I wouldn't suggest monetizing with Adsense but for sure you could write an ebook and sell it on the site or create other informational products on the subject which would help you make money from the niche. As time goes on, your options for monetizing should open up as more states start the legalization process.
  • Just work on the content creation aspect of your list or site for now, especially if you are using the cannabis theme. . And, later after you have established a brisk traffic, sell advertising space directly to sites in a similar niche.Many webmasters in the natural or herbal niche find it difficult to find reliable places to advertise. You'll find many people who want to advertise with you, once your site is considered an authority on Google search.
  • Marijuana is money.

    Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to reflect.

    PS:

    Google Trends
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  • A lot of good comments here!

    If you are into gaming and 420 and have video editing software you can do a video blog with tips and pointers for that demographic and post up on Youtube. You could start with "The Best MJ for First Person Shooters". Talk a little about the MJ strains that help in the genre and stream some gaming content then talk about gaming strategies for your favorite titles. Drive traffic to sign-up to your list and then promote products they would be interested in on the back-end.
  • I just checkout click bank and you won't believe what I found.

    There are offers on how to pass drug tests

    Detox Your Body, Get Clean and Pass Any Drug Test

    This is no affiliate link of course, but it is seriously an offer that is listed on clickbank.
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  • my site above is a social book marking site like digg any one here wants to submit a link to it back to their sites feel more than welcome
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    • Oh wow, I did not even realize that . A nice related backlink too. I shall definitely add my blog to your site when it's complete. Thanks!
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  • A few things you can sell

    - Various accessories for using cannabis (including some things that will enhance the experience like... projectors, those tiny little laser things that project shapes on the walls with a laser

    - Cannabis seeds and everything else you need to grow weed including lights, soil, timers and ventilation systems

    - Cannabis art in frames and posters (Did you know that there is a Hash Marihuana & Hemp Museum in Amsterdam)

    - Puke bags.... Just joking

    - Clothing
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    • Puke Bags lmao! D. Thank you very much. Looking for affiliate programs for each of these now.

      P.S: On my bucket list: Go visit that Hash Museum
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  • I'd build a Facebook page about pot... then monetize it.

    Z
  • Hey PharmaPunk,

    I know one marketer who is already for a long time in this niche. He buil a lot of niche sites for all different kind of cannabis products like bongs. Maybe you going to check him out and get some inspiration out of his site and how he markets this stuff (have a look at the case studies. You can find his blog here:lazyassstoner.com

    Hope this helps!
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    • Don't know about list building but out of our 2 dozen amazon affiliate sites guess which one niche makes the most profit from a tiny bit of traffic?

      It is a booming and affluent niche, go for it I say
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  • I am kinda in the same boat as you. I originally started a gaming blog a few years back that got me started in online marketing.

    I just started a marijuana themed site a few weeks ago (specifically targeting vaporizers). I only received about 240 visitors so far from organic sources and have a 10% conversion rate in converting them into subscribers to my list.

    I'm using a free pass to Cannabis Cup Denver as my opt-in bait which has been working pretty well.

    I still have not gotten any sales yet but I did get one click for .06. I also was contacted by KandyPens in regards to doing a review of their product. So although I haven't gotten any sales yet I do get a free vape pen valued at $129.


    When I figure out how to actually extract some sales from my list I will let you know.
  • It's possible I guess.
    I don't know how much you can sell stuff in the cannabis niche.
    (Online anyways)
    But you could probably find some things.

    I would recommend sticking to one or the other and in this case video games.
    However if you put a lot of personality into your copy and get really passionate about it, I'm sure it could work still, but generally in brand positioning it is better to go deeper not wider.

    I know with the video game niche there are a few clickbank products that you can sell. Like one that was very popular was a product that taught you how to get a job as a video game tester.

    There are occasionally some video games you that you can sell as an affiliate and make residual commissions on.

    Also you can probably sneak in a Netflicks affiliate promo and some of Clickbanks other entertainment affiliate products.

    But I'm leaving the best part for last you could also join CPA affiliate networks like Peerfly, Maxbounty and many others and make money off of just telling people about new video games and get them to sign up for them, you don't even need to get them to pull out their wallets.

    But with CPA networks it can be a little tough applying for them, you would almost want to treat it like a job interview, make sure they would know that you'll be using paid traffic methods directed at your landing page and that you don't EVER spam, for starters.
  • so does atone have a cannabis list then?

    this tee could use some traffic: Let Cannabis Be Thy Medicine : Mullaway | Teespring



    the profits are going to help a healer in Australia stay out of jail...
  • Brad Gosse has a bestselling book called the Chronic Marketer Chronic Marketer he got that bestseller by targeting weed smokers on Facebook. Brad smokes weed, is very successful and proves that there are successful marketers that use weed.
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    • that's a sweet sales page... might have to buy his product after checking that out... slick

      just to continue on your tangent, you might like this list of people then: Famous Trippers « Reset.me Reset.me

      (i'm sure there's more... although a good place to start)
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    Building A List Around Cannabis Or Video Games?

    Hello guys! I don't know, I'm just going through a spiral right now. Here is the thing, When I ask for business Ideas, People always (rightfully) ask "What do you like to do?", and the thing is, The things that I like to do, I don't think I could profit off of. In my spare time, I like to play video games and study Cannabis. I freakin' love Cannabis; Even though I've never consumed it (yet) I love the science behind it, It's benefits, etc. I could probably tell you what type of Cannabis it is just by looking at the leaves, the length of the leaves so on and so forth.