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When someone buys an OTO do they automatically go into your list?

by Nathan Kruz
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Hi, So if i have a squeeze page and someone opts in to it, they go into my "freebie" list. And if they buy my OTO, I want them to go into my "Bought OTO list. I know you have to make a rule that says to delete that person when they sign up for your OTO list, but how do I get them in my oto list? Do I make them enter their email adress again or will Aweber automatically recognize it? Or does Aweber use their email they used in their paypal to buy it? I am completely clueless
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  • Profile picture of the author JensSteyaert
    You're going to have to make them opt in again after they bought your OTO and then set an automation rule to unsubscribe from your freebie seeker list when they sign up to your buyers list.

    The automated option would be to use a payment processor like warriorplus or jvzoo and connect your aweber account. However they need to confirm their email again, whch means not everybody will end up on your buyers list. This can be done though if you use getresponse and Jvzoo, but aweber needs confirmation.
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  • Profile picture of the author aspic791
    No, you should an optin page to catch their email addresses
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Check out LeadOutcome (Yes that's one of those affiliate links)
    Yes I do have a problem with your affiliate link.

    Affiliate links are against the rules!
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  • Profile picture of the author rCaliente
    I debated long and looked at the rules closely to find if affiliate links were/not allowed in posts. I've read the rules and saw clearly "No affiliate links in signature" but nothing about an affiliate link in a post or reply that adds value. The reply would have stood on its on without the link if you would have just stripped it out vs. deleting the reply.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Ray
    You always want to setup a buyers opt-in page if possible. These are the people you know for certain are willing to pay you good money for what you are selling.

    And yes, you can set rules up in Aweber to remove them from your freebie list when they sign up over in your buyer opt-in list. Makes it allot easier to manage things.
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    • Profile picture of the author bionictortoise
      Originally Posted by DennisRay View Post

      You always want to setup a buyers opt-in page if possible. These are the people you know for certain are willing to pay you good money for what you are selling.

      And yes, you can set rules up in Aweber to remove them from your freebie list when they sign up over in your buyer opt-in list. Makes it allot easier to manage things.
      Thanks, I wish every marketer would go to the trouble of doing this. I bought a product from a reputable marketer and love his stuff, but get so annoyed that I keep on getting emails to buy the product I already bought!

      And I'm not sure which list to opt out of, as I used the same email address for both subscribing and buying, and his strange list names offer no further help.

      I would unsub from all, except he has really good advice!
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      • Profile picture of the author rCaliente
        What I can remember of the post...

        Aweber will get you so far but start to let you down when it comes to automation.

        You can set up rules that say if they sub to x list, remove them from y list. The problem comes with Aweber and their schizo rules combined with the email host's rules which are just as reliable.

        You can set everything up and you're relying on a lot of if's
        If Aweber doesn't (for whatever reason today) force the double opt-in
        If the message doesn't go to their spam
        If the customer actually takes action and signs up to the second list
        If...

        That's too many if's!

        You could get the same powerful rules and segmenting automation that was previously only available in high end services like infusionsoft and office autopilot (Now Ontraport) at a fraction of the price with LeadOutcome.

        You could simply set a trigger on the thank you page that doesn't rely on the user to do anything. They automatically go there when their payment processes.

        That trigger could "Add them to the buyer list, remove them from the looker list, add a tag for that product to prevent sending them any more messages about buying it, add a tag for price level, another for product type (ex: wp plugins), you could remove a tag, send them a one-off email that is not part of the list, increase their score so you quickly identify your hottest leads, and more"

        L/O is database based around the lead, not list based. The price remains fixed up to 10k leads and they can be on infinite number of lists. Aweber subs can be on just as many lists but because their system is list based, one sub is counted as a subscriber for each list they're on.

        There are hacks you can use to get by with Aweber to get around them not being able to naturally do what you want. But in the end, they're hacks and subject to rules change or just the whims (action/inaction) of the subscriber.

        I have both Aweber and LeadOutcome and recommend L/O because I use it. I use it because it makes sense and it works.

        Take a look at LeadOutcome and if you'd like to buy, contact me and I'll give you my link. I can answer whatever questions you might have.
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

          Once they buy from you, you can send them to a page that they have to opt in to get the product through to their email.

          So give them the product AFTER they "opt in" again to your BUYERS list.
          That's a bad idea. You should never force people to optin to your list to get a product they paid for. That's just bad business and some companies such as Paypal do not like you putting extra conditions in front of a product someone has already paid for. So definitely do not do this.

          If you want to have a second list then call it an updates list and have it as the first step on your download page. Step 1: Join our update list so you get all important product updates, etc. That will give people a good enough reason to join the list.

          Originally Posted by rCaliente View Post

          I debated long and looked at the rules closely to find if affiliate links were/not allowed in posts. I've read the rules and saw clearly "No affiliate links in signature" but nothing about an affiliate link in a post or reply that adds value. The reply would have stood on its on without the link if you would have just stripped it out vs. deleting the reply.
          Affiliate links have never been allowed in posts. Can you imagine the state of this forum if that were not the case? It's not a written rule anywhere because I guess they figure it is just logic. A forum full of affiliate links would turn into nothing more than a promotion fest in no time. The moment you know someone is getting a kickback from their recommendation it taints that recommendation.

          Originally Posted by JensSteyaert View Post

          You're going to have to make them opt in again after they bought your OTO and then set an automation rule to unsubscribe from your freebie seeker list when they sign up to your buyers list.

          The automated option would be to use a payment processor like warriorplus or jvzoo and connect your aweber account. However they need to confirm their email again, whch means not everybody will end up on your buyers list. This can be done though if you use getresponse and Jvzoo, but aweber needs confirmation.
          They don't need to confirm again. Setup your second list with single optin and when they purchase your product through Warrior Plus or JVZoo, they will automatically be added to your buyers list and removed from your prospects list (if you set that rule up in Aweber) and they will not need to confirm,
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Once they buy from you, you can send them to a page that they have to opt in to get the product through to their email.

    So give them the product AFTER they "opt in" again to your BUYERS list.
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