Holosync and PerfectMeditation

Holosync all the way. I've used it for 8 months now and the results are amazing. I no longer get stressed out, I'm more assertive and happier inside. It does take some effort not to fall asleep (which they say is fine) but if you stick to it you wil see a difference. Just remember it is a marathon, not a sprint, do not expect results overnight and you WILL most likely experience some emotional upheaval in your first few weeks. their support for this is top notch. It is the best program for self-improvement period.

Wow. You might get as many replies as there are people who bother to write. I have done both - and both for short periods so I'm not representing myself as a self-contained control group. Centerpoint pissed me off so badly with their bad karma Bill Harris advertising that after 5 months I sent my CDs back and demanded they return my money back - which funds they did return. 8 years later, wary, I started Perfect Meditation. Now this has been a much different, much better experience. I am working with Michael, the owner I think, to have a custom mask-sound version made for my use that uses Nichiren Buddhism O'daimoku chanting with the singing bowls and Gyoto monks instead of his other options that do not fit with my non-binaurial practice 1. Tibetan (Om Mani Padme Humm) masking sounds, 2. The Dali Lama reciting the Heart Sutra and 3. the typical white noise rain - wave nature sounds. Right now, until the O'daimoku disks are finished, I'm having to use the Om Mani Padme Humm ones which is disconcerting since immediately after listening I go and do my Nichiren gongyo practice. Anyway, if you have no interest in those (really irrelevant details since none of the sounds affect the frequency they are just masks) just pick whichever one. His standard is the Om Mani Padme Om. Just ask for nature sounds if you think that's what you want but I bet it is NOT what you want because that's what I got from CentrePointe and they are as boring as hell. I never noticed any benefits from Holosynch. Perhaps I was just not ready then. With Perfect Meditation, though I have a huge benefit already: I used to sleep between 12 and 18 hours/day (! half a day at work then back to sleep in bed!). Now I listen to my Perfect Meditation CD an hour in the morning and I sleep soundly as I always did but now I only sleep six or seven hours. I have freed up so much time in my life to get things done! I wish this had happened to me three decades ago. I suggest you just try Perfect Meditation by buying the 2CD level one on eBay. You can usually get it for just $35.00 plus postage.

So now you have a pro-Holosync, a pro-Paraliminals (which I have used to good result if they are the same Paraliminals I once used that are based on NLP to resolve specific problems - but then if those are they, they are not the ones I obtained benefits from years ago) and this Perfect Meditation recommendation. I've used all three, I think. Holosync I found a waste of time and money. Paraliminals I found useful for generating new behavior patterns, Perfect Meditation I find is the best answer as an "electronic meditation system." And of course. I do meditate in Real Life, traditional practice.

HTH IMO YMMV

PS Perfect Meditation feels stronger to me. Do not take two systems and alternate them one day this/next day the other. Pick one and stick with it. Subliminals are a crock of s***. You gain nothing from them. Nothing.

Holosync hasn't done much for me. I'm going to look more into paraliminals and isochronic tones.

Have any of you tried meditation without the cd's? how long are the programs that you usually listen to

I posted the following on another thread. Can anyone comment on this:

I purchased some brain sync cd's a few weeks ago. It seems like this is a reputable company and its founder, Kelly Howell, has a pretty good biography. I listened to these 2 CDs for 2 weeks, alternating every other night. They were great, but now after 2 weeks I am experiencing extreme "upheaval" as the Holosync company would describe it. I think that this has to do with these 2 CD's being deep theta wave soundtracks. Anyway, I'm semi-freaking out. The symptoms appear to be alleviating somewhat, but nonetheless I'm done with this technology. All change must come from ourselves; nothing from the outside is ever permanenet, be it drugs, other people's opinions, or binaural beat technology. Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Hi folks,

I am a current Holosync user (about 14 months) but I also use my TM mantra at the same time (took TM along time ago).

I can't say I have had overwhelming results but I don't judge the experience. I just set time aside to do it which frees me from all the "chatter" out there and I feel very refreshed, less anxious and peaceful for quite some time after each session.

I am not convinced the subliminals in Holosync work but I do find the binaural beat system has enough results that I keep using it.

Cheers

I use Holothink; the Deep Zen and Laser Focus Optimizer.
The Laser focus, even the 10 minute demo makes me feel like I am 16 again!
They deliver much more than they claim to!
I would love to promote them..since I am so passionate. I am having problems with competition analysis..10-12 year old domains..etc.
So, I really need to listed to the download and do some serious meditations for keyword phrases!
Any ideas for me?

Victoria

P.S. This Deep Zen, for myself anyway, is just to relax..and the Optimizer offers energy and focus.
For metaphysical reasons, I have found that using nothing outside of will power and the white noise form my air conditioner works much better.

I used Holosync for around a year and a half and loved it.

With Love & Gratitude,
--Sean Patrick Simpson

Holosync Side Effects

Dizzy
Nauseous
Anxious
Panicked
Dissociative State
Unhealthy Sleep Patterns
Groggy
Easy to Anger
Apathetic
Unmotivated
Change in Diet/Food Cravings
Spaced Out
Distant
Disconnected

I felt like a zombie each successive day I participated in the program. The world seemed a million miles away. I couldn't focus or concentrate on what I was doing. I felt stuck in a state of drone, of exile, locked in a mindset that interpreted the world as something foreign and feared. The simple pleasures of touch and feeling were unknown and scary. My thoughts were scattered and unobtainable. I felt myself slipping away, while a consciousness insane was emerging, leaving my sense of self behind.

If this is what one calls evolution, then insanity is truly their divine. Getting back in touch with your authentic self does not involve feeling mentally ill. It's a welcoming awareness of who you always have been, facing and seeing all that you are, and none of that causes fear, but instead great joy and bliss at the awakening of your fully recognized self.



Bill Harris and staff will take your money and tell you that feeling like crap is a part of the process to enlightenment; Expand your threshold, entrain your mind to feel stress and anxiety as a way to deal with more; That's the way to spiritual evolution.



No, no. This is merely a theory, an unproven, non-scientific theory that has brainwashed millions of people to compromise their well-being in the hopes that if you just stick with it, one day you will feel whole and able to handle anything. Just remember, if your body and mind are telling you you are feeling bad, trust yourself, not some douche who has conned millions of people into spending thousands of dollars on a program that makes you believe that if you just stick with it, it will all be worth it.